Pastor Kevin, I'm speaking about the woman at
Speaker:the well. This is a bottle of water. It's
Speaker:my prop.
Speaker:Here we go.
Speaker:Yeah. On a more serious note, when
Speaker:David was sharing, you know, your wife gets a
Speaker:diagnosis of cancer and go through six
Speaker:surgeries, and here she is. You can trust him.
Speaker:Michelle and I looked at each other because we both experienced this
Speaker:and said, and when he takes them home, you can
Speaker:still trust him. Because you can.
Speaker:You can. Yeah. The last time
Speaker:I was up, six, seven weeks ago, something, whatever it was
Speaker:I was speaking, I had been assigned
Speaker:Ezekiel in the Valley of Dry Bones. And I got up and I
Speaker:complained about that assignment. I, you know, I said this, you know,
Speaker:once I found out that was what I was going to be speaking about, I
Speaker:was going, oh, yeah, great. But. And I started a
Speaker:trend because the next two or three people who were up
Speaker:kind of followed suit. I, I need to
Speaker:somewhat make amends this morning and say, I love
Speaker:this story. I, I,
Speaker:Kevin had asked us, Pastor Kevin had asked us last year
Speaker:for some topics that we would like to cover under
Speaker:Greatest Stories Ever Told. And I think I
Speaker:sent him five, four, five, six, something like that. I got one,
Speaker:but it was the one I really wanted. And it's,
Speaker:and it's this one, the story of Jesus coming to the woman in
Speaker:Samaria. And I love the fact that it
Speaker:happens one chapter after another
Speaker:encounter over in John chapter 3, that
Speaker:Jesus has with a prominent Jewish leader
Speaker:named Nicodemus. Last week, Pastor Justin,
Speaker:where is he? He baptized somebody. Oh, there he is. Okay, over there. I just
Speaker:wanted to be sure you hadn't snuck out on me. Now, last
Speaker:week he brought a terrific sermon about the
Speaker:wedding of Cana, turning the water into wine. And he started
Speaker:out by, I want to give you some context. So he went back and he
Speaker:preached through chapter one as well. And I went, you don't have enough
Speaker:to say about turning the water into wine, do you? So that's why you went
Speaker:back and did that. But it turned out that he had
Speaker:plenty to say about both of them, and he, and he melded them together
Speaker:beautifully. So this week I thought, well, I'll go
Speaker:back and do chapter three as well. Well, I'm not going
Speaker:to, but,
Speaker:But I love the juxtaposition. I'll talk about it a couple of times.
Speaker:The juxtaposition of this prominent
Speaker:religious Jewish leader coming to Jesus and the way
Speaker:Jesus shared with him and ministered to him, and then
Speaker:this Samaritan woman and Jesus coming to her
Speaker:in the way that he ministered to Her.
Speaker:I love the
Speaker:juxtaposition there.
Speaker:Jesus left an area of fruitful
Speaker:ministry. In fact, it says, we're going to read it here
Speaker:in just a minute, that he was making and baptizing more
Speaker:disciples than John, than John the Baptist was. He left an
Speaker:area of fruitful ministry, not because of opposition,
Speaker:but because he had a divine appointment
Speaker:in a little town called Sychar. It's the only time it's ever mentioned in
Speaker:scripture, and it may still exist, but it
Speaker:not Sychar anymore. That's lost to history.
Speaker:With an unnamed woman. And we
Speaker:don't know her name, but God does.
Speaker:Jesus wasn't just telling a parable.
Speaker:He wasn't just blowing smoke when he talked about
Speaker:leaving the 99 and going after the 1. He did
Speaker:it, and he's still doing it. He still
Speaker:does it. Okay, I want you to stand with me. It's going to be kind
Speaker:of a long reading, but it's a good story. It's really
Speaker:good.
Speaker:Now Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that
Speaker:he was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John,
Speaker:although in fact, it was not Jesus who baptized,
Speaker:but his disciples. So he left Judea and went
Speaker:back once more to Galilee. Now he had to go
Speaker:through Samaria. So he came to a town in
Speaker:Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground
Speaker:Jacob had given to his son Joseph. Jacob's
Speaker:well was there. Jesus, tired as he was from
Speaker:the journey, sat down by the well. It was about
Speaker:noon when a Samaritan woman came to draw water.
Speaker:Jesus said to her, will you give me a drink?
Speaker:The Samaritan woman said to him, you are a Jew
Speaker:and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me
Speaker:for a drink? For Jews do not associate with
Speaker:Samaritans. Jesus answered her, if you knew
Speaker:the gift of God and. And who it is that asks you for a
Speaker:drink, you would have asked him, and he would have given
Speaker:you living water. Sir, the woman said,
Speaker:you have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep.
Speaker:Where can you get this living water? Are you greater
Speaker:than our Father Jacob, who gave us the well and
Speaker:drank from it himself, as did also his sons
Speaker:and his livestock? Jesus answered, everyone
Speaker:who drinks this water will be thirsty again.
Speaker:Whoever drinks the water I give them will never
Speaker:thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will
Speaker:become in them a spring of water welling up to
Speaker:eternal life. The woman said to him, sir,
Speaker:give me this water so that I won't get thirsty and
Speaker:have to keep coming here to draw water. He told
Speaker:her, go Call your husband and come back.
Speaker:I have no husband, she replied. Jesus said
Speaker:to her, you are right when you say you have no
Speaker:husband. The fact is you have had five
Speaker:husbands and the man you now have is not your
Speaker:husband. What you have just said is quite true,
Speaker:sir. The woman said, I can see that you
Speaker:are prophet. Our ancestors worshiped on
Speaker:this mountain. But you Jews claim that the place
Speaker:where we must worship is in Jerusalem. Woman
Speaker:Jesus replied, believe me, a time is
Speaker:coming when you will worship the Father. Neither on this
Speaker:mountain nor in Jerusalem. You
Speaker:Samaritans worship what you do not know. We
Speaker:worship what we do know. For salvation is from the
Speaker:Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now
Speaker:come when the true worshipers will worship the Father
Speaker:in the spirit and in truth. For they are the kind of
Speaker:worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit,
Speaker:and his worshipers must worship in the spirit. And
Speaker:in truth. The woman said, I know
Speaker:that Messiah called, called Christ is coming. When
Speaker:he comes, he will explain everything to us.
Speaker:Then Jesus declared, I the one speaking
Speaker:to you. I am he. Father, I thank you for your
Speaker:word. I pray for the presence of the Holy
Speaker:Spirit. I pray, Father, that the Spirit would be
Speaker:manifest in each person here, giving us ears to
Speaker:hear, hearts to understand. And I pray, Father, that you would filter
Speaker:the things that. That come out of me and that
Speaker:truth would go forth in Jesus name. Amen.
Speaker:This last week for me has
Speaker:sort of been a Wayne Berry week.
Speaker:Yeah. First of all, we
Speaker:had lunch together. I am a name dropper. I
Speaker:had lunch when we married. And then
Speaker:secondly, while we were there, he had a cassette tape that he
Speaker:wanted me to hear. And in fact, he wanted me to hear this cassette
Speaker:tape so much, he brought a cassette player to
Speaker:the. To load it to me just in
Speaker:case. And it's a good thing he did.
Speaker:I was listening to it and I'd heard really everything on
Speaker:it. And a lot of it, I had
Speaker:a lot of it. I already had recorded in other forms and could
Speaker:hear it. But one of the songs really
Speaker:caught me. And it was a song that Wayne wrote
Speaker:called Word about Jesus. And great
Speaker:song. It's a terrific song. The full title of it is probably
Speaker:how come you never say a word about Jesus?
Speaker:But what really got me was the introduction to the song,
Speaker:which I will never forget.
Speaker:I did the introduction. It was not one of my better moments.
Speaker:And it went on for about two minutes.
Speaker:I opened up by saying, this song's about witnessing
Speaker:and I'm the world's worst,
Speaker:you know, I mean.
Speaker:And I spent the next Two minutes, just kind of stuttering and
Speaker:saying, you know and I know and you know, about
Speaker:50 times. And I finally ended up with,
Speaker:there's this guy at work and he comes in
Speaker:almost every day and says, what do you know? And I
Speaker:hate it when he says, what you know, because
Speaker:I know what I know. And I don't, you
Speaker:know, and
Speaker:I don't. I don't shout out something really great like Jesus
Speaker:is Lord or Jesus loves you, Bill.
Speaker:Instead I usually say,
Speaker:you know, don't you see, I was brought up in a.
Speaker:In a church culture that was very much about witnessing and
Speaker:testifying. And, you know, you're supposed to go out there and you're supposed to just
Speaker:lay it on the line with them.
Speaker:And it did. It bothered me every day when Bill would say,
Speaker:what you know. Now, it probably would not have been a very
Speaker:good idea to stand up in the middle of the Social Security
Speaker:office and yell, jesus is Lord maybe once.
Speaker:But he says this every day. And
Speaker:it probably would have been a pretty good idea
Speaker:to say, jesus loves you, Bill.
Speaker:Only I would not have said, jesus loves you, Bill.
Speaker:I would have said, jesus loves you, Bill. And you need to get that through
Speaker:your reprobate skull before you split hell wide open
Speaker:and fry for eternity.
Speaker:Amen.
Speaker:This passage that we have read
Speaker:is how Jesus does it. Perfect
Speaker:example of
Speaker:how to witness. The first thing that
Speaker:he does is he empowers this woman by asking her
Speaker:for help. You
Speaker:give me a drink. Kind of dry. I could
Speaker:use a drink here. We tend to
Speaker:start off by letting them know that they need our help because
Speaker:we know what's wrong with them and we can tell them what's wrong with them
Speaker:and we got the answer. And eventually
Speaker:we might actually get around talking about Jesus. But first of all, let's fix you.
Speaker:We need to flip that mentality. We need to turn it on
Speaker:its absolute head.
Speaker:News flash. With the way the church acts
Speaker:in our culture, also known as
Speaker:arrogance, the last thing
Speaker:the world is going to respond to is us telling, as
Speaker:a know it all attitude. Really,
Speaker:I'm going to say this in this service, too. I bet some of you got
Speaker:it. But I'm not talking to you. So, Holy Spirit, if you hear,
Speaker:you know, I'll drive down the road, sometimes I'll see a bumper sticker or
Speaker:I'll see a, you know, license plate. Sometimes I don't know. In
Speaker:fact, there was a guy in the first service, had the tattoo. It says,
Speaker:don't tread on me. And you know,
Speaker:and I know what they're Saying is, get out of my way
Speaker:and don't mess with me and everything. There was a guy,
Speaker:I saw this last week who had taken it up a notch.
Speaker:He had a bumper sticker and had a snake on it that kind of had
Speaker:a, you know, a sort of grin on it. And it said,
Speaker:tread on me, come on, make
Speaker:my day kind of thing. That's our mentality,
Speaker:you know, we tend to go out with, okay, yeah, come on,
Speaker:bring it, big boy. Hey, you got Satan, I got God. Bring it, come
Speaker:on. Humility is
Speaker:so disarming
Speaker:because as soon as we come with,
Speaker:guess what they come with.
Speaker:But when you come with humility, like, can you help me?
Speaker:I need your help. Let's start at that point.
Speaker:Jesus with this woman uses the metaphor of living
Speaker:water to draw deeper into the conversation.
Speaker:He used a metaphor with Nicodemus. Does anybody know what it was?
Speaker:Born again. That's right. Have to be born again.
Speaker:Draw Nicodemus deeper because that's, that's what
Speaker:each have their, each has their own path. And
Speaker:Nicodemus walked an intellectual path which,
Speaker:you know, some might deride. I know I was kind of brought
Speaker:up in the culture that, you know, if you, if you had more than an
Speaker:eighth grade education, you were kind of suspicious. We were, we were sort of suspicious
Speaker:of you. But I'm glad,
Speaker:I'm glad that that's a legitimate path. If it weren't a legitimate path,
Speaker:we'd all have to learn Greek and Hebrew to read the Bible. But
Speaker:God, you know, has brought people in who have the ability to
Speaker:translate and do things for us. And had Nicodemus
Speaker:not come this way, and Jesus went,
Speaker:finally said Nicodemus, let me explain it to you plainly,
Speaker:intellectually, but plainly, if we had not had him there,
Speaker:we would not have. This is the intellectual
Speaker:explanation. Plainly. God loves the world
Speaker:so much that he gave his one and only
Speaker:son that whoever believes on it would
Speaker:not die, but have everlasting life.
Speaker:So, you know, I'm glad that way.
Speaker:This woman just simply wanted something to drink.
Speaker:This woman was simply interested in getting some water.
Speaker:And so that's how Jesus came with her.
Speaker:What, what you're interested in, what your needs are, the way that you're going,
Speaker:that's the way we're going to, that's where we're going to start. Because you can
Speaker:start from anywhere to get to God.
Speaker:She was simply interested. There is no one size fits all.
Speaker:So that's the first thing we need to know. You know, somebody.
Speaker:It may have been, and I don't Think it was the case. In fact, I
Speaker:think Bill was a Christian. But now that I look back on it. But,
Speaker:you know, some. It may have worked with some people to go,
Speaker:jesus loves you, and you need to get that through your thick skull before, because
Speaker:you're going to hell. Otherwise. That may be what works with some people. That's not
Speaker:what's going to work with a lot of people. And it's not size fits
Speaker:all. There's no script except the
Speaker:Holy Spirit. And we may not have
Speaker:the perfect metaphor to bring to the
Speaker:conversation, but living water should flow, not
Speaker:vinegar.
Speaker:Jesus said, the water that I give them will become
Speaker:in them a spring of water welling up into eternal life.
Speaker:And that's. I don't know about you,
Speaker:I don't like the smell of vinegar,
Speaker:but if it's around, I can smell it.
Speaker:And when it's coming forth, they can smell it.
Speaker:And then the woman says something that always brings a smile to my face.
Speaker:I mean, I just have to kind of go, oh, yeah, right.
Speaker:Are you greater than our Father Jacob?
Speaker:I mean, think about that for a second. She's talking
Speaker:to God and going, are you greater than
Speaker:Jacob? You know, and it would have been. It would have been
Speaker:easy. Jesus was not offended
Speaker:nor distracted by that comment. And we
Speaker:often get so easily offended, so easily distracted.
Speaker:All it takes is just, you know, a little and we're
Speaker:gone. Not in the moment anymore. We've
Speaker:lost point on where we're going.
Speaker:And it's because we tend to come with an attitude of war rather than an
Speaker:attitude of humility. We somehow think that the
Speaker:disastrous approach of the Crusades will somehow work this
Speaker:time. I think this time it'll turn out good
Speaker:if we do it that way.
Speaker:Jesus comes with love. I mean,
Speaker:who doesn't love love?
Speaker:In fact, it's what everybody's searching for.
Speaker:And we know where it is. And the term may be born again,
Speaker:or the term may be living water, but what it is, is
Speaker:it's Jesus and it's love.
Speaker:And he was. He was a revolutionary. He was
Speaker:a radical revolutionary.
Speaker:Jesus was not intimidated by social norms.
Speaker:He was talking with a woman who did not know him.
Speaker:Now, in our culture, that's not a big deal. Guys do it all the time
Speaker:or try to do it. You know, if the woman's got any set, she just
Speaker:kind of goes, yeah, whatever. But you know that.
Speaker:But there are cultures, and not just. Not just the culture of Jesus today,
Speaker:there are cultures in the world right now where that's a big, big no,
Speaker:no. And yet
Speaker:Jesus wasn't. He was totally
Speaker:disregarding or disrespectful of the cultural norms because
Speaker:I'm sure this was not something he did all the time, but God had told
Speaker:him something and that that's more important
Speaker:than what the culture around us tells us to do. But
Speaker:it's not just the world that intimidates with social norms. The church
Speaker:does as well. I
Speaker:wonder. I wonder if God
Speaker:had pause when giving the law or having.
Speaker:What's that guy's name? Paul. Having Paul write some
Speaker:of the things that he wrote. I wonder if God stopped
Speaker:and thought, they need to know this,
Speaker:but they're going to turn it into something it was never intended to be.
Speaker:Think about that for a second, because that's what we do with it.
Speaker:The scripture does not instruct us to. To
Speaker:confront the lost with. To convict the lost
Speaker:of their sin. That's the job of the Holy Spirit. Jesus
Speaker:says when he comes, he will convict the world of sin and
Speaker:righteousness and judgment. That's his job.
Speaker:Our job, actually. How many of you like to bring bad
Speaker:news? How many of you like to
Speaker:bring good news? How many of you just don't give
Speaker:a flip? I'd always
Speaker:rather bring good news than bad news.
Speaker:And we're called to share the gospel of the kingdom,
Speaker:so. Well, now we're also called to tell people to repent.
Speaker:To repent means to change your mind, change your
Speaker:mind about something. And yes, there are things that.
Speaker:That the world needs to change their mind about in terms
Speaker:of morals and
Speaker:other stuff. There are things that I need to change my mind about.
Speaker:There are things that you need to change your mind about,
Speaker:but those are just things.
Speaker:The thing that they really need to change their mind about is how they
Speaker:think about God. Not sure
Speaker:if he's there or not. No, I. He is there.
Speaker:I don't know that he loves. He does love me.
Speaker:Well, I don't know how Jesus fits all the. Jesus came
Speaker:and gave his life for me. That's.
Speaker:That's repentance. That's. That's changing our mind
Speaker:about things. When I was a. When I was. When
Speaker:I was a pastor. Yeah, when I was a pastor. Kevin's in charge
Speaker:now, and if you got a problem, talk to him. If you're a woman, talk
Speaker:to Barbie. It's that cut and dried.
Speaker:My number's now unlisted.
Speaker:But I would try to travel. I traveled incognito
Speaker:as a pastor. And nothing
Speaker:against those who. That's not what they're called to. Do,
Speaker:you know, those who. Because of the structure
Speaker:that they're in are required to wear a collar. Or those who
Speaker:feel like they're supposed to dress in a certain way that kind of says,
Speaker:you know, man of God, woman of God. You know, because there are places, there
Speaker:are times where people go, man, I really need a man. Oh, there's
Speaker:one, you know, and that's okay. There's times to be
Speaker:identified. But I would travel incognito because as soon as
Speaker:somebody found out I was a pastor, you
Speaker:could see. You could see them rifling the files and go, what have I said
Speaker:to this guy? You know, what am I not going to say to this guy
Speaker:in the future? And the wall's there. You
Speaker:can't. You can't really get through it that way.
Speaker:Jesus was not intimidated by social norms.
Speaker:Jesus was also not concerned with race or ethnicity.
Speaker:Back in the 80s. A lot of you already know this.
Speaker:I lived for a while in Zimbabwe, which was just
Speaker:north of it. Borders South Africa.
Speaker:South Africa's south, obviously. Zimbabwe is just to the
Speaker:north of it. And it was a period of apartheid.
Speaker:And for those of you who don't know what apartheid is, it
Speaker:was a political system that separated the races from each other
Speaker:legally. You know, if you're this race, this is what you'll do. And if
Speaker:you're this race, this is what you'll do. And it was a big deal as
Speaker:far as the world was concerned. A lot of countries were
Speaker:boycotting South Africa and all kinds of things.
Speaker:In fact, interestingly enough, it occurred to me in the first service
Speaker:that the one country that
Speaker:was the major trading party was South Africa. So they could get around things
Speaker:was Israel, which is where Jesus is at this
Speaker:moment right now.
Speaker:And they had. They had racial classifications in South Africa,
Speaker:but probably the most despised were those of
Speaker:mixed race, as they called them.
Speaker:That's who the Samaritans were to the Jews.
Speaker:See, interesting enough, most of the Samaritans were Jews,
Speaker:but they were not able to trace their ancestry back
Speaker:the pure line of those returning from
Speaker:Babylon. It astounds
Speaker:me that some who
Speaker:claim to be Christians can make an issue of race.
Speaker:First of all, if you believe in Adam and Eve,
Speaker:then we're all mixed race. We all came, we
Speaker:all got the same daddy, the same mommy back
Speaker:there somewhere. And also,
Speaker:Jesus died for all over. In
Speaker:Revelation, chapter five, there's this scroll, and
Speaker:it's got seals on it. And no one's found who's
Speaker:worthy to open the seals. And John is weeping because the
Speaker:seals can't be opened. And then he's told, don't weep
Speaker:anymore. The lion of the tribe of Judah, the Lamb of God,
Speaker:has been found worthy. And a song breaks
Speaker:out in heaven. You are worthy to take the scroll
Speaker:and open its seals because you were slain. And with your
Speaker:blood you purchased for God persons from
Speaker:every tribe and language
Speaker:and people and nation.
Speaker:You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God.
Speaker:And they will reign on the earth from every tribe
Speaker:and language, people and nation. And then
Speaker:there's, you know, there's Galatians 3. 28. In Christ,
Speaker:there's neither Jew nor Greek. There's neither slave nor free. There's neither
Speaker:male nor female. You're all one in
Speaker:Christ.
Speaker:And yet some of
Speaker:us don't feel that way.
Speaker:I was at least 30 years ago. It was more than that.
Speaker:I remember bringing a sermon over in the old
Speaker:sanctuary about
Speaker:race. Had
Speaker:several people leave the church after it.
Speaker:What you're saying it's okay
Speaker:for us to be together? Can't be.
Speaker:Jesus was not put off by any of this.
Speaker:The Samaritans were despised. And even she
Speaker:said, you know, you're a Jew, I'm a Samaritan. You guys don't have anything to
Speaker:do with us. Jesus didn't fall for it.
Speaker:He didn't get into a discussion. He didn't talk about, oh, well, let
Speaker:me tell you why I'm talking. No, he just said,
Speaker:if you knew who you were talking to, you'd ask me and I'd give you
Speaker:living water. Is that even on the subject? Yes, it is on
Speaker:the subject.
Speaker:Okay, let's get into the good ones. Now, there's two more.
Speaker:He was not put off by her morals.
Speaker:There's a reason why she was coming in the heat of the day
Speaker:to draw water. All the other women came early in
Speaker:the morning when it was cool. She came in the heat of the day.
Speaker:I have learned, as I've gotten older,
Speaker:some things about women.
Speaker:Yeah, See, the early service crowd was a lot older, so
Speaker:a lot more of the guys went, yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker:But I've learned some things about women, actually.
Speaker:And one of the things that I've learned about women is
Speaker:they're mean.
Speaker:They have a tendency to be mean. Michelle
Speaker:is the exception. Just
Speaker:wanted to say, but they're mean. They hold a grudge
Speaker:sometimes. You know, they can be ra.
Speaker:And so this woman had a reputation.
Speaker:And so when it came time to go to the well, all the other women
Speaker:are going to the well. And there's a reason why she didn't Go with them.
Speaker:Keep from getting her face scratched.
Speaker:And she's finally intrigued enough.
Speaker:She still doesn't get it, but she's finally intrigued enough. Go, yeah, I want
Speaker:some of this. I want some water. You know, you don't have to understand everything
Speaker:about God to want God. You don't have to understand
Speaker:everything about Jesus to want Jesus. The important thing is that
Speaker:you want him. And so she says, yes,
Speaker:I'm in. Give me this water so that I won't have
Speaker:to keep coming here to draw water.
Speaker:And when she does, he
Speaker:shines a light on her morals. He doesn't condemn them, he just shines a
Speaker:light on them because they're
Speaker:not what this conversation is about.
Speaker:Had he began going, yeah, you know, well, let's talk about
Speaker:that here for a minute, then the conversation would
Speaker:have never gone where it was supposed to ultimately end up.
Speaker:You're right. When you say you have no husband, go and call your husband.
Speaker:Come back, oh, you don't have a. Well, you know, you're right. The fact is
Speaker:you've had five husbands, and the man that you're. You're with right
Speaker:now, he's not your husband. Even what you have just said is
Speaker:quite true. In fact,
Speaker:rather than going, and so, yeah, we need to talk about this because, yeah,
Speaker:I bet somebody, he goes, I commend your truth.
Speaker:I commend your truthfulness. I just want
Speaker:to note that it's true.
Speaker:God hasn't told me to give you all the details
Speaker:about what a sinner I am, but
Speaker:take my word for it, I am.
Speaker:Paul writes in Romans, chapter seven,
Speaker:the things that I want to do, the
Speaker:things that I know to do, I don't always do them.
Speaker:And the things that I don't want to do, the things I know I shouldn't
Speaker:do, every now and then I.
Speaker:Yeah, I do. Am I right, Justin? Yeah.
Speaker:Every now and then I do those. What a wretched man I
Speaker:am. Who can possibly save me from this?
Speaker:Well, actually, I do know who. That's what he says.
Speaker:When I came back to the lord in the 70s,
Speaker:there were quite a few. There were a lot of people who would kind of
Speaker:say, well, now, that was before Paul was saved. After
Speaker:Paul was saved, that wasn't his condition anymore.
Speaker:They lied.
Speaker:Jesus tells the woman, you know, yeah, you. You
Speaker:don't have a husband right now. You've had five, and you got a guy, but
Speaker:he's not your husband. That's a word of
Speaker:knowledge, and that is a
Speaker:supernaturally revealed piece of knowledge.
Speaker:According to First Corinthians 12, 8. It's available to all
Speaker:believers. And
Speaker:when I say supernatural revealed, it's not like, you know, a parent and a child.
Speaker:You know, when you were a little child, you do something, and you.
Speaker:And how your mom knew, how your dad knew
Speaker:it was just a mystery. And they say, well, I have eyes in the
Speaker:back of my head. Well, you know, that was not true
Speaker:either. What they were actually saying is, you're
Speaker:just not very good at it. You know, I can
Speaker:catch you pretty easily. And besides, I've already been there and done that.
Speaker:But God gives sometimes a supernatural
Speaker:word that's kind of like, oh, my
Speaker:goodness, you know, the Lord just. Just read my mail. And it's
Speaker:never given for a floor show.
Speaker:It's never given for a performance. Lots of maze people here.
Speaker:Yes. The amazing ministry of Mr. Amaze,
Speaker:you know, can tell you these things. He gives it
Speaker:for a purpose, and he gave it here
Speaker:for a purpose, a godly purpose.
Speaker:So he's not sidetracked by her
Speaker:morality. That's not the issue right
Speaker:now. It's not where he's taking her. And then
Speaker:here's a pretty big one. He's not put off by her
Speaker:religion. He's not sidetracked by her religion.
Speaker:And this is where most of us, we run off the rails.
Speaker:Yeah. As soon as she realized
Speaker:that she was speaking to a prophet, she had a question about
Speaker:religion.
Speaker:And I believe there was a measure of sincerity in her question. For years, I
Speaker:kind of could hear her saying it. Our fathers worshiped here. You Jews
Speaker:say we're supposed to worship over there. Which is it? You know, But I don't
Speaker:think she said it that way. I think there was some sincerity there. I
Speaker:really want to know. You know, we've been worshiping here, but I've heard
Speaker:it's supposed to be over here. You know, what is it?
Speaker:And Jesus replies with one of the most
Speaker:powerful declarations, proclamations in all
Speaker:of Scripture. Woman, believe
Speaker:me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father. Neither
Speaker:on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship
Speaker:what you do not know. Worship in Samaria was set up by the
Speaker:Northern kings because they were afraid, politically,
Speaker:people would leave them and go to the southern kingdom if they had to
Speaker:worship in Jerusalem. We worship what we do know
Speaker:for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has
Speaker:now come when the true worshipers will worship
Speaker:the Father in spirit and in truth. For they are
Speaker:the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is
Speaker:spirit. His worshipers must worship in spirit.
Speaker:And in truth,
Speaker:some might argue, well, yeah, no, I mean, he. He said right there, you. You
Speaker:Samaritans got it wrong. We got it right. No, we didn't.
Speaker:No, he didn't. I mean, yes, they.
Speaker:The Jews were doing according to what Moses had said, the Samaritans
Speaker:worshiping according to what the northern kings
Speaker:had said. But Jesus didn't say one was wrong and one was right.
Speaker:In fact, he said, the time is coming and is now here.
Speaker:When that doesn't matter.
Speaker:When. That's not the point.
Speaker:So what is the point? Well, this actually brings us to the
Speaker:point. And the point is this. And it's so
Speaker:beautiful. I know that Messiah
Speaker:is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything
Speaker:to us. And then Jesus declared, I
Speaker:the one speaking to you.
Speaker:That's me. That's what this whole
Speaker:conversation is about. We had the
Speaker:opportunity to go off the track here and off the trail here and down the
Speaker:bunny trail there, but we stayed on the road. And this
Speaker:is what it's about.
Speaker:I said, this was a Pastor Wayne week for me. I don't
Speaker:usually look at stuff on Facebook, but occasionally I'll get an email
Speaker:saying, you might want to look at this. And most of the time I don't.
Speaker:But if it's Wayne, occasionally I will. And I did.
Speaker:And Wayne had posted something like this. He said,
Speaker:a Dear Kingdom cohort of mine said,
Speaker:when the pulpit has been traded for a podium.
Speaker:He said, I'll add, the
Speaker:church at large has a serious problem.
Speaker:He was completing the sentence, when the
Speaker:pulpit has been traded for a podium, the church at large has a serious problem.
Speaker:He was also speaking prophetically
Speaker:because all you have to do is look around, kind of go,
Speaker:oh, that's where we are.
Speaker:Another brother asked for an explanation, said, are you talking
Speaker:about something specifically? And this just interestingly enough,
Speaker:was a brother who post a lot of
Speaker:political stuff and opinions and social stuff. Are you talking about something
Speaker:specifically? And he asked for an explanation.
Speaker:And I know this brother and I know that he has a soft heart. And
Speaker:when I was his age, I was just as dumb as he is.
Speaker:But I responded to him and I said, oh, so many things.
Speaker:We were talking about trading the pulpit for a podium,
Speaker:offers of prosperity doctrine,
Speaker:social issues, personal opinion,
Speaker:which, quite frankly, I think those are the same thing
Speaker:because most of what we feel about social issues is our personal opinion. You
Speaker:may go, oh, no, Pastor. Everything I believe about social issues is what
Speaker:God thinks.
Speaker:Really? Oh, really?
Speaker:Yeah. Those things
Speaker:that so easily draw people away, draw people
Speaker:to themselves, draw people to focus on Them
Speaker:and away from Jesus.
Speaker:I, I
Speaker:guess about the third time through this outline, getting
Speaker:ready for this morning, this hit me and I'm just going to say
Speaker:it. I'm going to put it up here and we're going to post it on
Speaker:Facebook. And so, you know, it's true,
Speaker:as the church grows in political power and influence,
Speaker:it declines in spiritual power and influence.
Speaker:And historically it's true. I mean,
Speaker:I grew up as a child in the 50s and in the 60s and the
Speaker:50s and 60s, the church had great influence on
Speaker:the culture in the nation. And then in the early 70s, we
Speaker:decided to get political
Speaker:and you know, our influence in the
Speaker:halls of power, if you will, of this world has been on the
Speaker:ascendancy ever since. And the number of people who claim
Speaker:Jesus Christ as their savior and attend church has been on the decline
Speaker:ever since early 70s. Go,
Speaker:go back and check it out.
Speaker:The real issue is
Speaker:this. The spirit and truth
Speaker:issue is always
Speaker:not what we think about these other things. That's not
Speaker:the issue. We don't stand before God to hear
Speaker:him say, well, now there was, let's see how you
Speaker:what your opinion was on this. And it's
Speaker:only one question. You know my son,
Speaker:you know, my son, God isn't even
Speaker:interested in real religion. He's interested in real
Speaker:relationship.
Speaker:Besides, what we think about. Our thoughts are not his thoughts.
Speaker:His ways are not our ways.
Speaker:But both our thoughts and our ways can become more like
Speaker:him, but only as we stay focused on Him. See,
Speaker:we tend to think we have this kind of thing. Well, if I got the
Speaker:right opinion about all these issues, I'll be closer to
Speaker:Jesus. No, you won't.
Speaker:You get closer to Jesus and all this stuff will
Speaker:fall into place where it's supposed to be.
Speaker:Worship team, you can come out. This woman
Speaker:was the wrong gender, she was the wrong
Speaker:race, she was the wrong culture, she
Speaker:was the wrong morality, she was
Speaker:the wrong religion.
Speaker:Yet Jesus came to her in person.
Speaker:And apart from his disciples, she's the only one
Speaker:recorded in scripture. Jesus plainly
Speaker:revealed himself. I am
Speaker:He, I am the Christ.
Speaker:You got something to say, brother? Oh, you're just gonna sing?
Speaker:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah, I'll
Speaker:get there in a second. If you
Speaker:don't,
Speaker:no matter what you've done, no matter
Speaker:which side of issues you come down on,
Speaker:I've had people, I've had people literally say to me,
Speaker:I don't know how anybody can be a Democrat and call himself a Christian.
Speaker:And I've actually had others say, I don't know how anybody
Speaker:can be a Republican and call themselves a Christian. And I
Speaker:don't answer that question because they don't. They're not. They don't want
Speaker:an answer. It's a rhetorical point that they're making.
Speaker:But if. If you wanted an answer, I got one.
Speaker:The reason you don't know how anybody could be that other
Speaker:party and be a Christian is because you don't know
Speaker:what it is to be a Christian.
Speaker:You don't know what that means,
Speaker:because it's not about this stuff.
Speaker:It's about Jesus. No matter what you've done,
Speaker:no matter where you come down on particular things or whatever,
Speaker:if he came to this woman and everything was wrong about
Speaker:her, he'll come to you.
Speaker:He's offering you living water as well.
Speaker:That's just too good to be true. You're just
Speaker:in the world. In the world,
Speaker:virtually everything that sounds good is too good to be true. But in the
Speaker:kingdom, the half has never yet been told.
Speaker:It's just. We only have a glimpse of what
Speaker:good actually is.
Speaker:With those who are going to minister, come forward, if you would stand with me.
Speaker:We're going to. We're going to do a song here that.
Speaker:It's probably been 20 years since we've done this song.
Speaker:And I didn't say anything to Jonathan and
Speaker:Brittany about it, but just
Speaker:early service, they started playing it and I went, whoa,
Speaker:who told you to do that? And we know who told them
Speaker:to do it. It was God. If you're here, you need
Speaker:prayer for anything. These brothers and sisters,
Speaker:all these sinners down here,
Speaker:they'll pray with you. God will hear.
Speaker:Let's do this. Let's do this song.