Foreign.

What up, y'?

All?

This is Emily and I'm Lisa, and.

We are the Conscious collaboration.

Yeah.

And welcome to all of our new listeners.

It just shot up like, oh, gosh, like more than.

How many times can you do math?

What's the math on that?

Hold on, let me have a spot.

I don't math good.

Exponentially to shut up.

So I think that we're finding the right people at the right timing, and this is what people need to hear.

And so come along.

I'm gonna do the math just because I'm curious.

Okay.

So it's nine times.

It went up nine times.

Oh, that's your favorite number.

My favorite number.

Yes.

Number nine.

Anyway, we were having such a lovely chat, and I just wanted to keep on talking because we were talking about orchids and saving plants and Chinese New Year, and I think all of those things are related because we're.

We're like midway in or by the time this episode airs, we're going to be at the end.

The tail end of Aquarius season.

So really big time for transformations and transitions.

And we know that February 17th is Chinese New Year, which is the year of the fire horse.

So we're no longer shedding skins.

We're not in the year of the snake anymore.

So we thought in our pre chat this would be a great time to talk about how does it feel in the midst of transitions?

Because you were saying you feel like a little bit of in betweenness.

I feel a little bit.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Neither here nor there.

Yeah.

So this was recommended by our trustee, AI Bot, that we lovingly call Chupy.

Shout out to Chupy.

Sure.

I think she short for Chupacabra.

That's right.

I think it's growing on her.

Yeah.

And I think, you know, that's a spirit animal.

Chupacabra.

Yeah.

Around the Florida, man.

It's perfect.

Yes.

Yeah, I know.

I think those are going to resurface for us because those are our spirit animals.

But we thought we would ask the I Ching to offer some guidance in navigating this in between energy when one self is fading and the next hasn't quite landed or we're not quite embodied into the next version.

And I think that's great.

You know, like.

Okay, so we're moving into Pisces.

Yep.

So it's like all of our psychic energy.

Everybody cry.

Emotional, intuitive.

No, we're not gonna cry.

Shout out to Pisces.

Y' all are.

No one's crying.

No one.

I love all my Pisces friends.

They're the best.

Yeah, they're just so adorable.

My son's a Pisces.

He a pike.

My parents.

My parents are Pisces.

Yes.

Yeah.

So this energy is talking more about identity, evolution, and just really surrendering and allowing space for this next version of ourselves.

I'm seeing, and I'm getting tagged in a lot in social media, people that are in our, like, spring cleaning mode.

So they, they want to get organized, they want to get rid of outfits that don't feel like them anymore.

They're not holding on to things.

It's, it's, you know, it feels productive.

It does.

I mean, and that's, that tracks because it's, it's a little bit of like an antsy energy for me.

Like, you know, I'm done with this, but I'm not quite there yet.

So, like, what do I do with my hands.

You know?

Well, I mean, it's that too.

And for me, I feel a lot inundated every time I go on social media.

Every room I walk into, I feel inundated with a lot of world angsty ness.

And so putting the energy into myself, towards growing into the best self that I can be feels like more productive to me than, you know, I'm really very much on the bandwagon of choosing to be the light as much as possible and such uncertainty because we, we knew this was going to be revolution, evolution.

Things were going to be completely different and feel unfamiliar, including ourselves.

So redirecting that energy back towards ourselves and evolving, keeping up, matching that fire horse energy is the best thing that we can do.

Yeah.

So, yeah, let's, let's check in with the I Ching.

I don't know.

And it's been coming up in client readings.

It's been.

Well, the first one just automatically came out pretty fast.

How do we manage that space in the middle?

Yes.

So the first energy that popped out, like, just tumbled perfectly and landed right in its spot.

It's like they're.

It's like I train them.

We need to put these on.

On camera.

In our spare time, we will do that.

So the first energy that came out is hexagram6, which talks about conflict.

Oh, it is pretty, though.

It's a pretty conflict.

Yeah.

I mean, conflict doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Negative all the time and then.

Perfect.

The second energy is about returning.

Hexagram24.

And I, I've gotten this before as I've done readings for people going through transitions such as divorce, returning comes up a lot because it talks about it returning of self.

Well, And I think, Yeah, I think that does make a lot of sense, just even at the surface, because when you're in that sort of limbo space, the space in between cells, if you will, it is a bit of a conflict because you're like, well, I'm not that anymore.

I'm not that just yet.

So, like, what?

What is it?

And just kind of getting those last remnants of the old out as you look ahead to the new.

It is.

It is a little bit of, if not conflict, like tension.

It is tension.

Okay, so this, this underscores what you were saying very well.

It talks about conflict often arises when a person who is convinced they are entitled to something meets with opposition.

Yeah.

So we know in our head, in our hearts that this is, you know, a thing or a person that we want to evolve into with conviction.

But we're not.

We're looking for the evidence of it to be affirming.

And so the conflict, I mean, there is a bit of entitlement there.

There is a little bit of ego there.

And when things aren't happening in our own perfect timing, we feel the conflict.

Why aren't you allowing me?

I'm ready to do it now.

Yeah.

It feels like teenager energy.

Yeah.

Creative solutions that meet others halfway are more valuable and longer lasting than victories achieved through force.

That's been coming through really loud and clear.

Biohorse energies often confused with force and not freedom and allowing things to come in their own right time and speed.

Consider everything carefully before making any major decisions.

Consider the option of compromise.

Clarify the roles and responsibilities of those with whom you live and work with to reduce conflict.

Okay, so there's to be expected a lot of change lines happening, starting from the top.

Conflict may have gone too far.

When success over others is achieved through sheer force of authority or superior position, the victory will not last.

Those who can win only by the sword are condemned to carry shields with them everywhere.

Beware of hollow victories.

I'm side quest.

I'm re watching Game of Thrones right now for some unknown reason, just re traumatizing myself.

But the swords and the shields and the taking things by force and all this, I'm getting all.

All kinds of Game of Thrones imagery to like put that into context.

Yeah, you've mentioned Game of Thrones a few times.

It's coming back.

It is.

That's like.

That seems to be one of your intuitive abilities is to see things through the lens of like movies.

Which is.

Which is funny because I'm always now like a good five, six, ten years behind on pop culture.

Like, I don't actually know except for Bad Bunny.

Right.

Shout out to Bad Bunny.

I don't really know what's going on in pop culture anymore.

Well, that, that's not entirely true.

Out loud because I have a 10 year old daughter, so I do know some things.

You do?

I feel like I'm.

I'm a little bit stuck in the past in a lot of ways too.

Hence me watching Game of Thrones over again instead of tuning into a new show.

There must be something to that.

Yeah.

I just want to put a little nod out to, you know, the top line.

Talking about conflict, going too far when forcefully trying to tell people to see you in one way.

So that's not going to get you very far.

And that feels like someone in the Game of Thrones that would be taken down.

That's not winning people.

That's not wearing your new self in a very graceful way.

So continuing down the line in this transition energy and this conflict energy.

Yeah.

Again, it talks about in areas where there's disputes where you know you are right.

Look for a just mediator who can bring influence to bear on the other side.

Huh.

This person must be strong and above reproach so that they have both moral authority and personal clout.

In such situations, it behooves you to just let go and let this arbiter take over.

So it's almost.

If we're gonna.

And I'm, and I know this is sounding like very ruler or dictator type of language, but if we take it down to ourselves, it makes me think that our closest inner circle is going to do a lot of painting the picture for people in how we are choosing to evolve.

So it makes me think that there needs to be a middle person, a helpful person, a sidekick, a mediator that's doing a lot of understanding your vision, acknowledging that and then communicating that for you.

Not necessarily you saying see me in this way.

I'm, you know, fill in the blank.

I'm an expert at this.

Just because, you know it needs to be true and you want it right now.

It.

I think it means winning over the people around you to trust you, to communicate.

Yeah.

I've witnessed Emily doing this and obviously like she's the best at it.

This is who she is in business.

But you know, I think you could apply what you're describing.

I mean, essentially, if we're going to the Game of Thrones analogy, it's Tyrion Lannister.

Okay.

Yeah.

So Game of Thrones pr.

Who are your.

What are their names?

Well, Tyrion would be the.

The PR agent.

I believe in this.

The dwarf.

This is.

This is.

So Game of Thrones.

Did you watch Game of Thrones?

I did not, but I've talked to you a lot about it.

I watched a few episodes here and there, and the ones that I watched were very traumatizing.

They all are.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I did not stick with it the whole time.

Line four reminds us that winning isn't everything.

In situations where you face a weaker opponent, winning is not even always the strategic thing to do, particularly if you are not totally sure of the objectivity of your position.

Remember that all conflict, no matter how much the odds may favor you, carries a price, whether you win or not.

Learn to demonstrate goodwill when you hold the upper hands, and you will find that in the long run, your position will be strengthened.

And we always say it's not about winning in the short term.

It's.

Is this sustainable game?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

And then bringing it down to earth.

Okay.

When challenging a superior force, retreat is a good tactic, not a disgrace.

Face of insurmountable obstacles replace valor, perhaps fueled by a sense of personal pride, is not only a mistake, it's also dangerous to those around you.

Your allies, your friends and your community.

If an adversary has you in their sights, it furthers you to duck.

So making yourself more visible in your new self, your new personality, your new way of business, your new relationship, there's likely to be an adversary.

This is.

I wouldn't.

This is a very allegorical story for Game of Thrones.

Applying Game of Thrones to your own personal life.

Now, what you're talking about is picking your battles because you're no good to anybody if you're.

If you're dead.

Whatever.

Dead means when you apply this to your regular life, you know.

Yeah.

Picking fights to prove that you're the stronger one is not the way to go here if you are looking to gain power.

And then, yeah, lastly, I mean, again, it just reinforces.

It's a dangerous time in a charged atmosphere to sort.

To assert yourself in a way that is trying to make you look like the winner or like the best.

So, yeah, they're just pretty much.

Except what you said.

Seek allies, y', all, in a time with fire horses.

That's how you get to put a.

Little pretty bow on it.

Returning.

Because I know what this energy is all about.

And it is all about transitions.

A turning point recharges you and eventually brings success.

So.

And I heard April is a big month for turning points.

Oh, that's also the name of.

I know.

That's what I was thinking.

I was like, oh, I saw your face.

Oh, boy.

I'm Team Bad Bunny.

Just to be clear.

Too bad.

Oh, boy.

I'm so, like, I've been trying for so long not to get political in any social media, podcasts, interviews.

Yeah, I. I feel like I'm not really getting political there.

I just, you know.

Yeah.

Team Bethany got it.

We could make that into Game of Thrones.

Yeah, you're right.

Up a little bit.

Yeah.

But April's.

April's gonna be a big month of, you know, this turning, like, this change.

I didn't hear too much about March.

I just know there's some sort of big planetary shift in.

In Aries.

Yes.

I don't know.

Time out of our crying cave in.

In April.

Yeah.

March is when in this.

In this hemisphere, many of us change our clocks forward.

I know that there's a lot of Q1 meetings there, but everybody kind of glazes over.

March, April's where it's at.

There's some kind of planetary shift.

And then May is party time.

Right.

So there's.

Where it's talking about the cusp of this turnaround.

A time for letting go of the old and making a way for the new and a time for new beginnings.

And it all starts with rest.

So gear up on your rest, because by the time you get to May, it's Gemini party time.

So hibernate.

Hibernate before then.

I'm talking about that.

I just really love sleep right now.

Like, yes.

It's been, you know, a bragging point for me to tell people when I'm going to bed before 11, I get so excited.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So after a period of estrangement for the inevitable fallout that might have happened, because you're unleashing your authentic self and your new.

Your new self to everyone, and there is going to be that conflict and a fallout.

Except for those allies that are near and dear and close to you.

The careful development of new relationships after splitting apart of old ones is going to happen.

So, yes.

Don't deplete your life force.

Is there anything that we can.

We can say about Game of Thrones that talks about the period of hibernation before the transformation?

Do dragons hibernate?

Well, they were.

They.

They were kind of.

Because she got the eggs.

And there.

Was a period of time where she had two of them chained up and.

And locked away because they were causing trouble.

So, yeah, there was a bit of hibernation there.

And spoiler alert, Jon Snow dies at one point and is brought back to life.

So that sort of a hibernation.

Oh, that is extreme.

I mean, that would be a great word if you.

If you had to pick one word to describe the entire show.

That.

That extreme.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you feel like 2026 is like game of Thrones?

I mean.

Maybe not too literally a lot.

But, I mean, if I were to happen upon a dragon, that would be pretty dope.

Yeah.

Like.

How the baby dragons surround her and protect her.

You know, they come out of.

Oh, yeah, the dragons.

I mean.

And actually, in the part now where they're all really coming into their own, the dragons are fully grown.

And Daenerys Khaleesi, the Dragon Queen, is.

Like, okay, but she's the one.

She looks like.

You know, in her first.

Like, when you first meet her, she looks, like very, like, very meek and mild, and then these, like.

And then she's like, oh, Empress of dragons, fierce.

Is magnificent.

Yes.

So I hate.

But the rest of it, she.

She's my favorite character.

Okay, so in the world of Game of Thrones in 2026, be a Khaleesi.

Yes.

Until the end.

And y' all know what I'm talking about.

Okay, I don't.

But don't tell me writers, like, some.

Okay.

The writers just, like, took a nap.

They were done.

Yeah.

Well, I think, you know, I would love to hear more about these, you know, these interjections, whatever you're defining, of your Game of Throne insights, and put them inside of the conscious collabor collective, our closer, private Facebook group, and we can talk about it.

And I can't wait to hear what Chupy has to say about our episode as well.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

To be the title master.

I will give her that.

Yeah.

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