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Speaker 2: Hey mama.
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Welcome back to the birth experience.
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Today I am joined by Labor Lauren, a labor and delivery nurse who's
passionate about helping moms choose faith over fear during birth.
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So if you're struggling with birth anxiety or you want
to create a faith centered birth plan, this episode is.
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For you.
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So let's get comfortable and dive into choosing faith over fear in birth.
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Trish: Hello, Lauren.
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I'm so excited to do this episode with you.
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How are you today?
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So good, Trish.
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How are you doing?
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I'm good.
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So what I want, I've already kind of given an introduction, but I would love you
to just tell everyone your story and how like even I am, I'm not even sure I've
heard your labor nurse story, but kind of tell like how you got to where you're at.
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Lauren: Yeah.
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And
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Trish: then
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Lauren: what you're doing now.
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Okay, perfect.
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Yeah, so I've been a labor and delivery nurse for 10 years.
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Growing up though I was never interested in medicine.
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I def I was hair, you know, just thinking What about birth?
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Anything with birth?
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Oh, no.
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Or
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no.
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Absolutely not.
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Trish: Because it's totally, I've been ex I've been obsessed with birth.
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Always.
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Lauren: Yeah.
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No, it's totally been like I am where I'm at for a reason
and, I feel like God's called me here for a purpose.
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But that was never my plan.
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Yeah.
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So when, that's always the best thing though, right?
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When it comes to God?
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Yeah, exactly.
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When I was in high school, my grandma, she
ended up having cancer and being put on hospice.
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And so when I was 16 I lived with her and I took care of her, in the hospice setting.
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Like So you
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Trish: moved out of your own home and stayed?
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Yeah.
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For three months.
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Just, just for you guys, because I know Lauren, because she's also in
my coaching mastermind, and this is just a definition of who you are.
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You're so sweet.
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You, you have such a spirit of servanthood, I feel.
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Thank you.
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That's insane.
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Most 16 year olds are sneaking out their window.
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Well, there is some of that.
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Okay,
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Lauren: good.
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Trish: I'm gonna get to
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Lauren: the
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Trish: juice, but,
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Lauren: okay.
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But yeah, so I lived with her in the hospital, in the inpatient hospice side
for three months and, just took care of her and, you know, my naive 16-year-old
self, I saw what the nurses were doing and I was like, Ugh, I could do that.
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Like, what are they even doing?
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You know, emptying the Foley.
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I could do that at 16.
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I was like that.
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Like I, I would've been like, no, thank you.
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That's so funny.
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Yeah, I fed her, I bathed her.
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You know, I did, I did most of her cares and, slept on the couch
in her room with her, and it was such a, it was a hard season.
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But it was so beautiful because that's why I became a nurse.
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Trish: Were you already a Christian
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at that point?
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Lauren: No.
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Trish: Okay.
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Gosh, I feel like I'm, I feel like I'm just
getting to know you in a whole new level right now.
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Lauren: Yes.
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So I was not raised a Christian at all.
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I really didn't.
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So that was when I was 16.
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I met Jesus when I was 18 at a young life camp.
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Back
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Trish: to back to changing grandma's bed pan and bathing her.
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Lauren: Yes.
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Lauren: No.
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No, but I just, I mean, I loved her.
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And this is like what you do, right?
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Lauren: right?
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So, so yeah, I took care of her and then, she ended
up passing away, but it was still like beautiful.
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I was thankful for the experience that I had
with her and the closeness that we had together.
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And after all of that, I was like, you know what?
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I wanna be a nurse.
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I graduated when I was like 21, 22.
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Just went straight through and I started working in oncology and hospice, so, okay.
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Which is, it just happened,
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Trish: I started in school.
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oncology floor.
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Lauren: Oh, cool.
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I, it's such a beautiful place to work.
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I really disagreed with how the hospital.
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Trish: and, and no time to meet the other needs that they have.
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Which is so important.
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Lauren: Mm-hmm.
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I did have a lot of sweet experiences getting to pray over my
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And so that was beautiful.
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But yeah, so I, in nursing school, every single labor
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Shut it.
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I, I was whole in an epidural.
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Like a legit Oh yeah.
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Trish: Oh yeah.
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Hit the floor.
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So you, did you hear my story of my daughter stabbing herself with a comb?
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I think for the first time in my entire life, I started to pass out.
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But I think it was because I took a lot of medication.
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And then I woke up, she's also pregnant.
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I thought that she was having, I like, my brain was like, she's losing the baby.
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So I think all of that, the adrenaline.
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Seeing a comb sticking out of her leg.
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So you blacked out.
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I can't even imagine.
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Lauren: They probably thought I was so dumb.
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It was so embarrassing.
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I was holding a mom's hand.
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She was getting an epidural and all I was doing was holding her hand.
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I didn't even see the epidural and I blacked out.
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What's really funny is as a labor nurse.
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The majority of the times that I've had people
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It, it really is.
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It's not a student nurse.
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I've never had a student nurse pass out.
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I've had, I've had them turn green, like I could tell
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I never had a student pass out every single week.
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Lauren: award, Lauren?
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I did.
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The next week it was a C-section and I only ate
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She's not enough food.
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And you passed out in the or?
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Fell back, hit my head.
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They took me to the emergency room and my clinical instructor
said, if you don't check yourself out of the er, I'm failing you.
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You need to go back to clinicals.
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Trish: Did you have to get stitches or anything or
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Lauren: No?
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Thankfully, like everything was fine.
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But yeah, so birth being a labor and delivery nurse was a hundred percent not on my radar.
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I was like, keep me away from that.
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Trish: I'm sure.
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I'm sure that the labor nurses were like.
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She can never be a labor nurse.
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Lauren: Oh, absolutely.
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And now it's sweet.
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'cause I tell students this story all the time.
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I'm like, Hey.
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Yeah, it's hard because you're just watching, you're not really participating.
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And so, you know, don't lock your knees and
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Trish: don't know they.
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Lauren: So yeah, so I was a oncology and hospice nurse for a year, and then one of
my good friends worked in labor and delivery and we would eat at the same hospital.
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We would eat lunch together.
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Trish: this part.
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I know this part.
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Yes.
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They don't, so keep going.
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Lauren: Yes.
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She would be like, oh, I only have 20 minutes to eat with you.
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I have to go do a C-section.
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That's really cool.
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Like, it just sounded cool, you know?
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And I was really burnt out where I was at and she
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And so I ended up getting to transfer to labor and delivery and I've
been there ever since and it is everything I could have hoped for.
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One of my biggest passions in life is just getting to be a part of birth.
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And I never would've gotten to do that if I
would have, you know, just stayed away from it.
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'cause I was afraid.
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Trish: Yeah.
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I, I love how that panned out because.
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You probably would've, like if someone would've told you, like
at some point you're gonna be obsessed with birth in Oregon.
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Like, you know, not this girl.
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You don't know.
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You dont know about that.
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I love exactly that so much.
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So now of course, now you are doing something else on top of that.
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Tell everybody that as well.
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Lauren: Yeah.
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So I have been teaching childbirth classes for about the last eight years.
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But this year I started working with you, Trish, and Yes.
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It's been so amazing, and you've really helped me kind of really
listen to what God has put on my heart, and that is serving moms who.
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Love Jesus, but who also want to have, that spiritual side of birth and
to really be able to connect with the Lord and their birth experience.
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So yeah, I've created, yeah, my online course that,
really helps those moms bring Jesus into the birth room.
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Trish: love that so much.
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So I have a couple questions for you.
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I would love to know do you have like a go-to
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Yay.
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Okay, good.
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Yes, I do.
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So I'd love to hear, and I'm interested if there are ones that like, I also
feel, 'cause I do have sort of a faith component to my, my birth courses.
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Okay.
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I have some prayers and scriptures, but it's.
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It's not infused into the whole course, although I am a Christian and my faith is,
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Lauren: yeah.
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So one of my favorite scriptures that helps you
prepare for birth is second Timothy one seven.
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It's God gave us a spirit, not a fear, but of power and love and self-control.
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And I really love tying that into a breath prayer,
which is simply just breathing in, and exhaling.
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And so to tie it in with that verse, I breathe in peace and I exhale fear.
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Love it.
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I think scripture memorization is really great.
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Like just for us in life.
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Yeah.
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And I have some memorized, I'm not the best at it, and so
sometimes I think it's easier if we just memorize, okay, we're
breathing in, like peace from the Lord and we're exhaling fear.
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Right.
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That makes it a little easier too, but ties it into that
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Trish: verse.
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I love that.
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I don't know if you know my, my story, but I went to
a private Christian school that Oh, my whole life.
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Did you know that?
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No.
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Yes.
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So I memorize scripture like a chance.
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Yeah.
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This girl knows them.
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I still, like, I don't, obviously, I don't now actively always memorize scripture.
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Yeah.
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But I can, out of nowhere, I'll hear a piece of a verse and I'm like.
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Bible drills, Bible verses all the things that was my life growing up.
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Oh, that's awesome.
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Lauren: Yeah.
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So, oh, go ahead.
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Go ahead.
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No, I just, I wasn't raised a Christian and so my husband was, and just.
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It's so interesting that like the more things that he knows
are just like the childhood things for our daughter too.
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Yeah.
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Trish: You know?
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Yeah.
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No, and I, I feel like there's a plus and a minus because
for a long time the Bible was a school book to me.
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Mm mm-hmm.
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Because we used it.
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I mean, I had Bible classes, my entire school career and Bible verse like by
memorizing bible verses and you know, when you're a little kid and you're like
trying to cheat on your Bible verse test, there's something really crazy about that.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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You know, like you're cheating on the Bible verse test.
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Yeah.
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But so for a long time it was like a. It was just a textbook to me.
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Mm-hmm.
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So there, you know, obviously that changed for me at a certain point.
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So I would love to also ask you, because as an a fellow
labor and delivery nurse, what do you think that.
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The common misconceptions about labor pain and going unmedicated or natural birth.
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What do you think, like I'd love to like kind of riff with you as a labor nurse.
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What do you think that some of the common misconceptions
of people think when it comes to labor pain.
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Yeah, because I have some thoughts on that.
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Yeah, I'd love to hear yours.
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Lauren: Absolutely.
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Well the first thing that came to mind I think is one of the biggest misconceptions
is that you don't have to prepare 'cause you're just planning on getting an epidural.
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Trish: Right.
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Lauren: And we both
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Trish: know that's
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Lauren: a
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Trish: joke.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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What is epidural get?
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It is not guaranteed.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Lauren: It's not guaranteed if you can't get it or if it doesn't work.
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Trish: Yeah.
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Or there's a line of other moms ahead of you, which we know happens.
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Yes.
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And, and even if that's the case, maybe you end up
getting it, but you might have to wait two hours.
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Mm-hmm.
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Like what do you do in the meantime?
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Exactly.
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If, if you have no tools.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Lauren: Exactly.
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And I feel a lot of people don't understand that unless
they've taken a birth course and they're prepared.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And so it always breaks my heart when I'm the nurse
in triage saying, so it's gonna be a little bit Yeah.
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You know, or,
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Trish: or they get an epidural and it doesn't work for them.
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Lauren: Yes.
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That I think is the worst.
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That is.
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That really is because this is not what we prepared for.
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Trish: Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Or they have a hotspot, which for those of you guys listening,
a hotspot is like, you just have an area that's not covered.
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Mm-hmm.
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I have never had an epidural.
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I've had all of my unmedicated.
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So I can't say this with experience, but experience of watching it.
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I feel like the thought to me is, if you have all this coverage
but this one spot, I feel like that would be even more intense.
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Yeah.
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Lauren: Yeah.
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I think mentally too.
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'cause you weren't prepared for that to happen.
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Mm-hmm.
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I do wonder if it's like a little bit better than feeling everything everywhere.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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But still the expectation is it's not working, but
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Trish: pain is pain.
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So if it's there, yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, I think another misconception that I personally really educate on is that.
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Because it's so painful.
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You have to be so scared and freaked out.
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Mm. Yeah.
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And that is not true.
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Yes.
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It's painful.
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And I don't know about you, but like this whole pain-free birth thing really ticks me off.
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Yeah.
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Like.
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Are we setting, we're setting people up for failure here.
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Yeah.
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When you say, oh, you can have a pain-free birth.
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Mm-hmm.
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You can have tell a birth you love.
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No.
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Lauren: Did I tell you when I was pregnant, I, I followed all the pain-free birth
stuff and then when I was in labor and I did Christian hypnobirthing, I was, yeah.
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I told all my coworkers, I'm not getting an epidural.
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I did all of that.
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Yeah.
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And when I was in labor and I was like, it hurts.
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And I felt like I wasn't close to God.
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Or like, it really messed with me, or you're doing something
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Trish: wrong because why is it hurting when she said it could be PainFREE.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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That's what I don't like at all.
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Mm-hmm.
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I agree.
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I feel the same thing in the coaching, the business coaching world with all these
people who are like, oh, you can create a CanBan and count and you'll make 10 KA month.
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And I'm like, I work my butt off.
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Like that is not right.
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And then I think in both cases you're setting people up for failure.
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Mm-hmm.
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I agree because.
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I tell my students it is gonna hurt.
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It is painful, but it's manageable.
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And if you have the right tools, you can actually, like I
loved my, now I did have one daughter who was straight op.
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Mm-hmm.
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She's the one, she's sitting out there right now pregnant.
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And that threw me for a loop.
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Yeah.
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Because of the back pain.
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Lauren: Mm-hmm.
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Trish: But other than that.
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I was very in control and it was very quick 'cause she was baby number five.
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So it wasn't like a long-term situation, but I feel
like they're really doing these women a disservice.
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And I would, I've had 16 years, I did have one, one patient who had
a disorder that she couldn't feel pain, she had a pain-free birth.
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I love that.
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And it was scary as hell.
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No, it was not.
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No, it was not good because she couldn't tell what was happening.
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Oh, and this is kind of a funny story.
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Mm-hmm.
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I, so we were super, super busy.
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I was on a travel assignment in Texas and I had taken a patient over to postpartum.
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They're like, you have a, you have another patient.
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In triage.
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She's like four to five centimeters.
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First baby, she's young.
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She was a younger girl.
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You need to take her to her labor room.
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So I go and get her and I always walk them to the labor room.
436
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Yeah, that's just my, my jam.
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And so I'm walking her and I am.
438
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I know you know how you know the assessment questions
and you're like, I'm gonna do 'em on the way.
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So I'm asking her and I get to, have you seen any
other specialists or have you had to see other doctors?
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she's like, oh yeah.
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Well, I have to go into the city, the big city because I have, and
she tells me the disorder, and she's like, and I can't feel pain.
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And I was like, oh, shoot.
443
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You know?
444
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'cause she's like, she also told me if she gets stressed out, she passes out.
445
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Gosh.
446
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So I'm like, oh gosh.
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Oh fun.
448
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So I'm like, okay.
449
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So I get her in the room, I get her in bed and I check her.
450
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She is complete plus one.
451
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Oh my gosh.
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I love it.
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I'm like, but, but I don't wanna, I don't wanna
freak her out because I don't want her to pass out.
454
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Yeah, of course.
455
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So I. Okay.
456
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I'm pushing the call light.
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I'm like, Hey, can I get a birth, a delivery team in here like right now?
458
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Yeah.
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And her mom, so then she's telling me that her mom stresses
her out and she passes out because of her mom all the time.
460
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Oh, her mom walks in.
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At that point
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I was like, could anything else happen right now?
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So stressful.
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But we did not have any pass out.
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I did have to sit mom in the corner 'cause she was stressing me out too.
466
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Uhhuh.
467
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And we had a baby like.
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Eight minutes later.
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Oh, that's amazing.
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I was like, okay.
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Lovely.
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Yeah.
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So that was a pain-free birth.
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That was, that was I went off on a tangent, but that was a pain-free birth.
475
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Yeah.
476
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Yeah.
477
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But it wasn't actually like, she wasn't excited about it.
478
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Oh yeah.
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At least she was there.
480
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Thank God.
481
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Yeah, thank God.
482
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Yeah.
483
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That would've been a, a rough surprise at home.
484
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Yeah.
485
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It would've been.
486
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Yes.
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So anyway, that was a pain-free birth.
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I do not like the whole concept mm-hmm.
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Of people saying that because it is painful.
490
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And for those of you guys listening, it's painful.
491
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But our bodies are so incredible, like God made them so incredible
that at the same time our body also has what you need to handle it.
492
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Yes.
493
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Yeah.
494
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So.
495
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It's, it is painful, but if you have the tools and you lean
into what your body is doing, and I believe that's all mindset.
496
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Lauren: Mm-hmm.
497
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Yeah.
498
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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But like even just the way that God made our hormones is so beautiful.
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Right?
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Like just the way that oxytocin and prostaglandins
work and how endorphins work, like mm-hmm.
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It's just so cool that he knew that we needed this.
504
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Yeah.
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You know, and he gave it to us.
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Trish: Yeah.
507
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And that's what Lauren's talking about, I love this, that the hormone,
which we also call the love hormone, is the primary hormone for birth.
508
00:18:52,930 --> 00:18:57,340
So the love hormone is entangled into this process.
509
00:18:57,370 --> 00:18:57,460
Mm-hmm.
510
00:18:57,700 --> 00:19:02,220
And then we have these natural, narcotics that flood our system.
511
00:19:02,790 --> 00:19:03,995
When you are.
512
00:19:05,295 --> 00:19:06,015
In labor.
513
00:19:06,015 --> 00:19:11,955
Of course we have to work against adrenaline and other things that
combat that, but that's where education and preparation comes in.
514
00:19:11,955 --> 00:19:13,035
Yeah, which is amazing.
515
00:19:13,275 --> 00:19:13,665
Lauren: So good.
516
00:19:13,665 --> 00:19:13,755
I
517
00:19:13,755 --> 00:19:14,115
Trish: love it.
518
00:19:14,373 --> 00:19:26,328
So I would love to hear what would you say to moms, because one of the big things
that I talk about and I stand on is speaking up and advocating for yourself mm-hmm.
519
00:19:26,388 --> 00:19:27,618
In the hospital.
520
00:19:27,671 --> 00:19:32,711
What is your stance on like, what are some of the ways
that these moms, obviously they need to be educated.
521
00:19:32,724 --> 00:19:32,934
Yeah.
522
00:19:32,964 --> 00:19:33,384
But.
523
00:19:33,535 --> 00:19:39,055
What are some ways that you teach your students or you teach your patients to speak up?
524
00:19:39,985 --> 00:19:45,325
When it comes to advocating, 'cause we know there's
some nurses and doctors that are hard to speak up to.
525
00:19:46,075 --> 00:19:48,565
Lauren: I actually have a funny story about this.
526
00:19:48,595 --> 00:19:48,925
Okay.
527
00:19:49,105 --> 00:19:49,225
Yay.
528
00:19:49,235 --> 00:19:56,465
So I had a patient come in for her scheduled induction, like
6:00 AM and her and her husband we're still friends to this day.
529
00:19:56,555 --> 00:19:57,709
Like we were not friends.
530
00:19:57,709 --> 00:19:58,759
I just, I'm their nurse.
531
00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:59,449
We just met.
532
00:19:59,479 --> 00:19:59,689
Yeah.
533
00:19:59,749 --> 00:20:02,689
And they came in for their induction and they're just funny people.
534
00:20:02,894 --> 00:20:02,954
Yeah.
535
00:20:03,134 --> 00:20:04,664
Like you just get along right away.
536
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:10,050
And so the dad, I do all of the education for the induction
and they were like, yeah, we didn't take a birth class.
537
00:20:10,050 --> 00:20:12,000
And I was like, well guys, I'm gonna give you one here in.
538
00:20:12,620 --> 00:20:14,570
A 20 minute birth class, this is it for you.
539
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:14,960
Yeah.
540
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:14,980
You know?
541
00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:15,075
Yeah.
542
00:20:15,230 --> 00:20:20,120
So I just kind of went over all the important stuff and
one of them is how to advocate for yourself in labor.
543
00:20:20,187 --> 00:20:21,582
I feel like that's one of the most important things.
544
00:20:21,682 --> 00:20:26,787
It is the most important, and so especially if you
get pulled somewhere else or you leave and go home.
545
00:20:27,217 --> 00:20:27,997
Exactly.
546
00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:28,087
Yeah.
547
00:20:28,087 --> 00:20:31,582
And so I really just go over the brain acronym, which I'm sure mm-hmm.
548
00:20:31,667 --> 00:20:32,617
Sure you're familiar with.
549
00:20:32,827 --> 00:20:33,037
Yeah.
550
00:20:33,067 --> 00:20:35,577
And, we go over like, what, what are the benefits?
551
00:20:35,577 --> 00:20:36,477
What are the risks?
552
00:20:36,477 --> 00:20:36,717
Right.
553
00:20:36,717 --> 00:20:37,527
Alternatives.
554
00:20:37,527 --> 00:20:37,587
Yeah.
555
00:20:37,677 --> 00:20:39,057
What's your intuition telling you?
556
00:20:39,307 --> 00:20:45,962
So I went over all of that and then I, I always wanna explain
to the husband, like, Hey, you are that person to stand in and.
557
00:20:46,217 --> 00:20:53,597
And stick up for her and say, if you know that they're, they're offering something
she doesn't want, you can say, Hey, that's actually not something we wanna do.
558
00:20:54,017 --> 00:20:58,607
Or you can say, Hey, can you step out of the room so we
can have a moment to talk to each other so that mm-hmm.
559
00:20:58,607 --> 00:21:01,397
There's no pressure on making your decision, right.
560
00:21:01,427 --> 00:21:01,547
Yeah.
561
00:21:01,787 --> 00:21:05,157
But I said start with asking like risks and benefits and I kid you.
562
00:21:05,917 --> 00:21:13,507
Not five seconds later that I finished saying that the doctor came
into the room and sat down on the stool and started talking to them.
563
00:21:13,507 --> 00:21:20,227
And I'm just standing there silent and the dad looks at him and
goes, can you tell me what the risks and benefits to that would be?
564
00:21:22,957 --> 00:21:25,147
And I'm just dying in the corner of the room.
565
00:21:27,412 --> 00:21:28,822
You're like, yes.
566
00:21:28,822 --> 00:21:29,152
Yeah.
567
00:21:29,302 --> 00:21:32,452
But it was so beautiful because dads don't know.
568
00:21:32,457 --> 00:21:32,737
Yeah.
569
00:21:32,757 --> 00:21:33,172
You know what I mean?
570
00:21:33,297 --> 00:21:33,617
Mm-hmm.
571
00:21:33,697 --> 00:21:36,832
And he was like, ready to jump in and a way to go, dad.
572
00:21:36,982 --> 00:21:37,312
Yeah.
573
00:21:37,312 --> 00:21:38,752
I'm so proud of him.
574
00:21:38,752 --> 00:21:39,892
It was so cute.
575
00:21:39,952 --> 00:21:40,312
Yeah.
576
00:21:40,582 --> 00:21:44,362
But really, I feel like saying, you know, can I have a moment to think about this?
577
00:21:44,362 --> 00:21:45,562
And not feeling rushed Yeah.
578
00:21:45,712 --> 00:21:46,732
To make a decision.
579
00:21:46,802 --> 00:21:51,782
Trish: And, and that's what like inside the courses, I teach them how to read the room.
580
00:21:51,872 --> 00:21:51,992
Mm-hmm.
581
00:21:52,292 --> 00:21:53,402
And there's.
582
00:21:54,002 --> 00:21:58,922
You can tell when there's not time, but you still can have a pause.
583
00:21:59,072 --> 00:21:59,342
Mm-hmm.
584
00:21:59,642 --> 00:22:06,032
You know, so if your, if your team is rushing in, people
are like frantic and they're putting oxygen on you mm-hmm.
585
00:22:06,032 --> 00:22:10,112
And they're flipping mom to her side and they're
telling you this, that that's not the time.
586
00:22:10,112 --> 00:22:11,372
Can everyone step out please?
587
00:22:11,372 --> 00:22:12,542
Not a good time for that.
588
00:22:12,632 --> 00:22:12,932
Totally.
589
00:22:12,932 --> 00:22:18,482
But re being able to read the room, he comes in, he sits down on the stool.
590
00:22:19,787 --> 00:22:19,907
Yeah.
591
00:22:20,387 --> 00:22:22,907
And he was like, we, we know the rollup on the stool.
592
00:22:22,907 --> 00:22:23,387
Sitch.
593
00:22:23,477 --> 00:22:23,837
Yes.
594
00:22:23,837 --> 00:22:24,797
That happens a lot.
595
00:22:25,127 --> 00:22:28,337
Like that's a, let me get down to your level and look you in the eye.
596
00:22:28,997 --> 00:22:29,327
Yeah.
597
00:22:29,447 --> 00:22:30,017
You know,
598
00:22:30,407 --> 00:22:32,957
Lauren: Hey, I would prefer that over like standing in the corner.
599
00:22:33,047 --> 00:22:33,167
Right.
600
00:22:33,257 --> 00:22:33,947
No, I agree.
601
00:22:33,947 --> 00:22:35,807
But we all know the rollup.
602
00:22:36,107 --> 00:22:38,447
Trish: You've been at this for a long time.
603
00:22:38,807 --> 00:22:39,147
Yeah, yeah.
604
00:22:39,827 --> 00:22:43,367
You know, we don't wanna have an emergent situation here.
605
00:22:43,457 --> 00:22:43,877
Yeah.
606
00:22:44,657 --> 00:22:45,947
So I, I love that.
607
00:22:45,947 --> 00:22:47,177
That's, that's great.
608
00:22:47,387 --> 00:22:47,447
Yeah.
609
00:22:47,447 --> 00:22:47,687
Okay.
610
00:22:47,687 --> 00:23:02,922
So now I would love to hear from you, how do you feel that the hospitals
are starting to be more supportive of women who are educated and
making decisions, or do you feel like we're still fighting a battle?
611
00:23:04,422 --> 00:23:05,052
You know,
612
00:23:06,222 --> 00:23:08,652
Lauren: unfortunately I feel like we're still fighting a battle.
613
00:23:08,745 --> 00:23:16,275
Yeah, I, Marco Polo, my, my friends on my way to work in the morning and
every morning I'm like, guys, another day I'm here to fight the good fight.
614
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,010
Yeah.
615
00:23:17,985 --> 00:23:18,165
Nice.
616
00:23:18,205 --> 00:23:22,755
And so I think it really is dependent on, your provider, of course.
617
00:23:22,905 --> 00:23:22,995
Mm-hmm.
618
00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:30,285
And the nurses that are taking care of you and why I advocate
so much for you to get a doula who is on your same page.
619
00:23:30,375 --> 00:23:30,735
Right?
620
00:23:30,735 --> 00:23:30,795
Yeah.
621
00:23:30,825 --> 00:23:32,025
Who can help you advocate.
622
00:23:32,275 --> 00:23:36,805
And then just being educated so that you can know, like you can say yes or no to anything.
623
00:23:37,495 --> 00:23:37,555
Yeah.
624
00:23:37,555 --> 00:23:38,935
And feeling confident in that.
625
00:23:39,295 --> 00:23:39,535
Trish: Yeah.
626
00:23:39,565 --> 00:23:39,985
Lauren: Right.
627
00:23:40,059 --> 00:23:47,079
I will say though, the hospital that I work at, we are working on,
I'm on the team to work on building a home birth room in our hospital.
628
00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:47,709
Trish: Ooh.
629
00:23:47,709 --> 00:23:48,549
I love it.
630
00:23:48,609 --> 00:23:48,999
Lauren: Yeah.
631
00:23:48,999 --> 00:23:49,664
So I, oh my gosh.
632
00:23:49,664 --> 00:23:51,189
I think progress is being made.
633
00:23:51,287 --> 00:23:51,347
Yeah.
634
00:23:51,377 --> 00:23:55,787
But it just takes a team of people who are willing to, you know, commit to do that.
635
00:23:56,357 --> 00:23:56,717
Trish: Yeah.
636
00:23:56,767 --> 00:24:07,327
And also for labor nurses and providers to expand their
knowledge base, like go out and take classes, learn more.
637
00:24:07,327 --> 00:24:07,417
Mm-hmm.
638
00:24:07,687 --> 00:24:10,087
Like evidence-based birth, like mm-hmm.
639
00:24:10,327 --> 00:24:17,287
Do spinning babies do things that get you outside of what
we've just been taught from our policy and our handbook?
640
00:24:17,587 --> 00:24:18,697
Lauren: Yeah, absolutely.
641
00:24:19,027 --> 00:24:19,927
And I, being a travel
642
00:24:19,927 --> 00:24:20,287
Trish: nurse.
643
00:24:20,517 --> 00:24:21,567
Did that for me.
644
00:24:21,927 --> 00:24:22,197
Oh yeah.
645
00:24:22,197 --> 00:24:34,829
Like leaving and being able to go to other hospitals and be like,
okay, so in Tennessee it's really dangerous to eat in labor, but in
Washington it's not dangerous because bodies are different somehow.
646
00:24:34,834 --> 00:24:35,634
Yeah, a hundred percent.
647
00:24:35,784 --> 00:24:36,074
What?
648
00:24:36,134 --> 00:24:36,434
You know?
649
00:24:36,984 --> 00:24:37,274
Yeah.
650
00:24:37,274 --> 00:24:37,574
Lauren: Yeah.
651
00:24:37,574 --> 00:24:38,234
That's true.
652
00:24:38,384 --> 00:24:44,914
I will say I'm thankful for, the place that I work because
I've been able to educate the providers I work with.
653
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:50,909
And the other day I was walking down the hallway and one of the
doctors was like, oh, labor Lauren, we need you in this room.
654
00:24:51,209 --> 00:24:51,674
And I was like, oh.
655
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:53,199
Okay.
656
00:24:53,199 --> 00:25:03,467
You know, and so I do feel honored that the more labor nurses are,
going out on a limb and like taking that time to educate the providers
that they work with in a loving and respectful way, you know?
657
00:25:03,497 --> 00:25:03,707
Yeah.
658
00:25:03,757 --> 00:25:07,537
I think that's where change is made, and so I'm thankful to get to be a part of that.
659
00:25:07,537 --> 00:25:10,152
Well, let's just be real that there's some providers who are not open
660
00:25:10,172 --> 00:25:11,032
Trish: or willing for that.
661
00:25:11,997 --> 00:25:12,627
Lauren: That's true.
662
00:25:12,807 --> 00:25:13,437
That's true.
663
00:25:13,464 --> 00:25:13,914
You know?
664
00:25:14,064 --> 00:25:14,604
Mm-hmm.
665
00:25:15,174 --> 00:25:17,694
Because some providers are just not for that.
666
00:25:18,264 --> 00:25:20,454
I had one provider that is that person.
667
00:25:20,510 --> 00:25:24,560
I had her sit down and I said, feel your, your your pelvis.
668
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:28,670
I'm like, this is why we don't pull our legs back when we're pushing.
669
00:25:28,670 --> 00:25:30,470
And she just looked at me like I was so stupid.
670
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,154
Trish: I can't even believe that
671
00:25:33,154 --> 00:25:34,564
Lauren: you even did that with her.
672
00:25:34,804 --> 00:25:35,224
Oh yeah.
673
00:25:35,224 --> 00:25:35,974
I was like, here, sit down.
674
00:25:35,974 --> 00:25:37,054
Put your hands on your bottom.
675
00:25:37,054 --> 00:25:37,114
Yeah.
676
00:25:37,294 --> 00:25:39,724
Let's, let's both of this together before we go in the room.
677
00:25:39,964 --> 00:25:41,524
I just want you to feel what I'm trying to do.
678
00:25:42,937 --> 00:25:44,497
Trish: I just have a newfound respect for you.
679
00:25:44,677 --> 00:25:49,357
That's pretty amazing because I know those doctors
that are not receptive to that, that's hard to do.
680
00:25:49,507 --> 00:25:49,957
It is.
681
00:25:50,437 --> 00:25:50,857
Yeah.
682
00:25:51,067 --> 00:25:51,427
Yeah.
683
00:25:51,457 --> 00:25:53,197
But I think you're just so sweet and nice.
684
00:25:53,197 --> 00:25:54,337
You probably can get away with it.
685
00:25:54,752 --> 00:25:56,497
Lauren: Yeah, I think so too.
686
00:25:56,707 --> 00:25:59,257
And I am, I am doing it like what's best for the patient.
687
00:25:59,257 --> 00:25:59,887
That's my goal.
688
00:25:59,917 --> 00:26:00,187
Yeah.
689
00:26:00,337 --> 00:26:00,727
Right.
690
00:26:00,727 --> 00:26:00,817
Yeah.
691
00:26:00,817 --> 00:26:01,267
So,
692
00:26:01,417 --> 00:26:04,387
Trish: well, do they always, is that always their goal?
693
00:26:04,387 --> 00:26:08,837
I don't know exactly most of the time, but there
are some that it's not like it's very mm-hmm.
694
00:26:09,027 --> 00:26:10,887
Especially those old school doctors.
695
00:26:10,947 --> 00:26:11,037
Mm-hmm.
696
00:26:11,277 --> 00:26:15,267
Like I had a doctor I worked with in Tennessee that I worked with him for years.
697
00:26:15,267 --> 00:26:16,527
So I had a home-based hospital.
698
00:26:16,527 --> 00:26:16,617
Mm-hmm.
699
00:26:16,857 --> 00:26:18,270
And then I worked as a travel nurse.
700
00:26:18,314 --> 00:26:23,204
Well, I had the most kush job 'cause I only had to do
like one shift every three months to stay on staff.
701
00:26:23,444 --> 00:26:24,914
It was so perfect.
702
00:26:24,919 --> 00:26:25,149
Mm-hmm.
703
00:26:25,229 --> 00:26:28,244
And so when I would be in between travel assignments, I would work there.
704
00:26:28,244 --> 00:26:30,014
And we had this one doctor who's super old.
705
00:26:30,824 --> 00:26:32,744
Very tall guy, very strong.
706
00:26:32,834 --> 00:26:38,294
Never laughed, never smile, and my goal was to get
this guy to smile and I finally got a little kick.
707
00:26:39,014 --> 00:26:41,054
Little half smile out of him one time.
708
00:26:41,144 --> 00:26:41,804
I love that.
709
00:26:41,804 --> 00:26:44,024
I cannot tell the story on here.
710
00:26:44,084 --> 00:26:47,144
It's definitely between a labor nurse type story, but mm-hmm.
711
00:26:47,594 --> 00:26:48,404
I got him to smile.
712
00:26:48,404 --> 00:26:51,584
I was so happy, but he would not have been receptive to any of that.
713
00:26:51,584 --> 00:26:51,854
Yeah.
714
00:26:51,914 --> 00:26:56,954
But in his defense, he also stayed out of the
room until the baby was literally sliding out.
715
00:26:57,794 --> 00:26:58,244
Lauren: Mm-hmm.
716
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:58,839
Trish: Mm-hmm.
717
00:26:59,044 --> 00:27:02,204
So as long as I just didn't bring them in, we were golden.
718
00:27:02,324 --> 00:27:02,564
Yeah.
719
00:27:02,564 --> 00:27:05,894
So, which I think is another surprise to most patients.
720
00:27:06,244 --> 00:27:06,544
Oh yeah.
721
00:27:06,544 --> 00:27:08,474
That they think their doctor is gonna be there.
722
00:27:08,564 --> 00:27:08,594
Oh.
723
00:27:08,654 --> 00:27:10,064
And I hate to break it to you.
724
00:27:10,064 --> 00:27:12,914
Doctor likes to come in when your baby's about to come out.
725
00:27:13,124 --> 00:27:13,394
Lauren: Yeah.
726
00:27:13,394 --> 00:27:13,724
Period.
727
00:27:13,724 --> 00:27:14,264
If we call 'em
728
00:27:14,264 --> 00:27:15,254
Trish: too soon, they don't like it.
729
00:27:15,494 --> 00:27:15,884
Lauren: Yeah.
730
00:27:15,914 --> 00:27:18,314
They wanna see ears and maybe someone browse.
731
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:18,449
Yeah.
732
00:27:18,854 --> 00:27:19,334
Yeah.
733
00:27:19,634 --> 00:27:20,414
And then they will.
734
00:27:20,654 --> 00:27:20,984
Trish: Okay.
735
00:27:20,984 --> 00:27:23,684
So we are coming to a close.
736
00:27:23,984 --> 00:27:29,144
Will you just tell, you've already said your username,
but tell everybody intentionally where they can find you.
737
00:27:29,414 --> 00:27:30,044
Lauren: Yeah, yeah.
738
00:27:30,044 --> 00:27:34,604
So I am Labor Lauren on Instagram and my website is labor lauren.com.
739
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:35,489
There you go.
740
00:27:35,489 --> 00:27:36,629
Trish: Very, very easy.
741
00:27:36,659 --> 00:27:36,899
Yeah.
742
00:27:36,899 --> 00:27:38,579
So this is Labor Lauren, right here.
743
00:27:38,579 --> 00:27:38,639
Yeah.
744
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:47,159
Well, thank you so much for listening to the Lord and following this path, and
I'm really glad you don't pass out in births anymore because we needed you.
745
00:27:47,729 --> 00:27:49,739
Yeah, I think that's so funny.
746
00:27:49,739 --> 00:27:56,024
I'm just in, I'm in awe of you that you would even be like,
yeah, let me go do that after I passed out both times.
747
00:27:56,024 --> 00:27:56,294
Yeah.
748
00:27:56,361 --> 00:27:58,191
Alright, well thank you for coming today, Lauren.
749
00:27:58,341 --> 00:27:58,641
Yeah.
750
00:27:58,641 --> 00:28:00,261
Thank you so much, Trish, for having me.
751
00:28:00,439 --> 00:28:01,069
You're welcome.
752
00:28:04,966 --> 00:28:07,366
Speaker 5: What an incredible conversation with Lauren.
753
00:28:07,366 --> 00:28:15,376
I hope her wisdom about embracing faith over fear has left you
feeling empowered and excited about your own birth journey.
754
00:28:15,436 --> 00:28:25,486
Remember, your body was made to do this, and with the right mindset, the right
support and preparation, you can approach your birth with confidence instead of fear.
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