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Speaker 2: Hey mama.

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Welcome back to the birth experience.

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Today I am joined by Labor Lauren, a labor and delivery nurse who's

passionate about helping moms choose faith over fear during birth.

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So if you're struggling with birth anxiety or you want

to create a faith centered birth plan, this episode is.

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For you.

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So let's get comfortable and dive into choosing faith over fear in birth.

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Trish: Hello, Lauren.

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I'm so excited to do this episode with you.

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How are you today?

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So good, Trish.

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How are you doing?

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I'm good.

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So what I want, I've already kind of given an introduction, but I would love you

to just tell everyone your story and how like even I am, I'm not even sure I've

heard your labor nurse story, but kind of tell like how you got to where you're at.

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Lauren: Yeah.

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And

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Trish: then

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Lauren: what you're doing now.

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Okay, perfect.

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Yeah, so I've been a labor and delivery nurse for 10 years.

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Growing up though I was never interested in medicine.

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I def I was hair, you know, just thinking What about birth?

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Anything with birth?

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Oh, no.

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Or

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no.

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Absolutely not.

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Trish: Because it's totally, I've been ex I've been obsessed with birth.

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Always.

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Lauren: Yeah.

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No, it's totally been like I am where I'm at for a reason

and, I feel like God's called me here for a purpose.

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But that was never my plan.

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So when, that's always the best thing though, right?

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When it comes to God?

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Yeah, exactly.

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When I was in high school, my grandma, she

ended up having cancer and being put on hospice.

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And so when I was 16 I lived with her and I took care of her, in the hospice setting.

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Like So you

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Trish: moved out of your own home and stayed?

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Yeah.

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For three months.

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Just, just for you guys, because I know Lauren, because she's also in

my coaching mastermind, and this is just a definition of who you are.

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You're so sweet.

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You, you have such a spirit of servanthood, I feel.

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Thank you.

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That's insane.

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Most 16 year olds are sneaking out their window.

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Well, there is some of that.

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Lauren: good.

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Trish: I'm gonna get to

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Lauren: the

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Trish: juice, but,

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Lauren: okay.

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But yeah, so I lived with her in the hospital, in the inpatient hospice side

for three months and, just took care of her and, you know, my naive 16-year-old

self, I saw what the nurses were doing and I was like, Ugh, I could do that.

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Like, what are they even doing?

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You know, emptying the Foley.

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I could do that at 16.

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I was like that.

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Like I, I would've been like, no, thank you.

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That's so funny.

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Yeah, I fed her, I bathed her.

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You know, I did, I did most of her cares and, slept on the couch

in her room with her, and it was such a, it was a hard season.

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But it was so beautiful because that's why I became a nurse.

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Trish: Were you already a Christian

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at that point?

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Lauren: No.

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Trish: Okay.

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Gosh, I feel like I'm, I feel like I'm just

getting to know you in a whole new level right now.

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Lauren: Yes.

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So I was not raised a Christian at all.

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I really didn't.

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So that was when I was 16.

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I met Jesus when I was 18 at a young life camp.

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Trish: to back to changing grandma's bed pan and bathing her.

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Lauren: Yes.

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not easy.

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Lauren: No.

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No, but I just, I mean, I loved her.

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And this is like what you do, right?

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That is what we

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Lauren: right?

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So, so yeah, I took care of her and then, she ended

up passing away, but it was still like beautiful.

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I was thankful for the experience that I had

with her and the closeness that we had together.

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And after all of that, I was like, you know what?

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I wanna be a nurse.

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And so I went to nursing school.

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I graduated when I was like 21, 22.

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Just went straight through and I started working in oncology and hospice, so, okay.

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Which is, it just happened,

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Trish: I started in school.

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oncology floor.

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I, it's such a beautiful place to work.

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I really disagreed with how the hospital.

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Ran it, I would have six to eight patients and giving chemo to half of them.

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Trish: and, and no time to meet the other needs that they have.

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Which is so important.

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Lauren: Mm-hmm.

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I did have a lot of sweet experiences getting to pray over my

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And so that was beautiful.

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But yeah, so I, in nursing school, every single labor

and delivery clinical that I did, I blacked out.

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Shut it.

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I, I was whole in an epidural.

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Like a legit Oh yeah.

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Trish: Oh yeah.

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Hit the floor.

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So you, did you hear my story of my daughter stabbing herself with a comb?

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I think for the first time in my entire life, I started to pass out.

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But I think it was because I took a lot of medication.

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And then I woke up, she's also pregnant.

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I thought that she was having, I like, my brain was like, she's losing the baby.

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Seeing a comb sticking out of her leg.

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So you blacked out.

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I can't even imagine.

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Lauren: They probably thought I was so dumb.

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It was so embarrassing.

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I was holding a mom's hand.

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She was getting an epidural and all I was doing was holding her hand.

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I didn't even see the epidural and I blacked out.

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Trish: Okay.

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What's really funny is as a labor nurse.

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The majority of the times that I've had people

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It, it really is.

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It's not a student nurse.

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I've never had a student nurse pass out.

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I've had, I've had them turn green, like I could tell

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I've never had one in 16 years.

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I never had a student pass out every single week.

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Lauren: award, Lauren?

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The next week it was a C-section and I only ate

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She's not enough food.

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Fell back, hit my head.

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They took me to the emergency room and my clinical instructor

said, if you don't check yourself out of the er, I'm failing you.

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You need to go back to clinicals.

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Thankfully, like everything was fine.

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But yeah, so birth being a labor and delivery nurse was a hundred percent not on my radar.

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I was like, keep me away from that.

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Trish: I'm sure.

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I'm sure that the labor nurses were like.

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She can never be a labor nurse.

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Lauren: Oh, absolutely.

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And now it's sweet.

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'cause I tell students this story all the time.

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I'm like, Hey.

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Yeah, it's hard because you're just watching, you're not really participating.

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And so, you know, don't lock your knees and

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Trish: don't know they.

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Lauren: So yeah, so I was a oncology and hospice nurse for a year, and then one of

my good friends worked in labor and delivery and we would eat at the same hospital.

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We would eat lunch together.

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And she, so I know

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Trish: this part.

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I know this part.

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Yes.

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They don't, so keep going.

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Lauren: Yes.

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She would be like, oh, I only have 20 minutes to eat with you.

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I have to go do a C-section.

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And I was like, wow.

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That's really cool.

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Like, it just sounded cool, you know?

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And I was really burnt out where I was at and she

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And so I ended up getting to transfer to labor and delivery and I've

been there ever since and it is everything I could have hoped for.

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One of my biggest passions in life is just getting to be a part of birth.

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And I never would've gotten to do that if I

would have, you know, just stayed away from it.

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'cause I was afraid.

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Trish: Yeah.

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I, I love how that panned out because.

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You probably would've, like if someone would've told you, like

at some point you're gonna be obsessed with birth in Oregon.

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Like, you know, not this girl.

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You don't know.

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You dont know about that.

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I love exactly that so much.

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So now of course, now you are doing something else on top of that.

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Tell everybody that as well.

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Lauren: Yeah.

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So I have been teaching childbirth classes for about the last eight years.

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But this year I started working with you, Trish, and Yes.

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It's been so amazing, and you've really helped me kind of really

listen to what God has put on my heart, and that is serving moms who.

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Love Jesus, but who also want to have, that spiritual side of birth and

to really be able to connect with the Lord and their birth experience.

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So yeah, I've created, yeah, my online course that,

really helps those moms bring Jesus into the birth room.

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Trish: love that so much.

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I would love to know do you have like a go-to

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Yay.

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Okay, good.

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Yes, I do.

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So I'd love to hear, and I'm interested if there are ones that like, I also

feel, 'cause I do have sort of a faith component to my, my birth courses.

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Okay.

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I have some prayers and scriptures, but it's.

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It's not infused into the whole course, although I am a Christian and my faith is,

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Lauren: yeah.

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So one of my favorite scriptures that helps you

prepare for birth is second Timothy one seven.

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It's God gave us a spirit, not a fear, but of power and love and self-control.

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And I really love tying that into a breath prayer,

which is simply just breathing in, and exhaling.

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And so to tie it in with that verse, I breathe in peace and I exhale fear.

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Love it.

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I think scripture memorization is really great.

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Like just for us in life.

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Yeah.

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And I have some memorized, I'm not the best at it, and so

sometimes I think it's easier if we just memorize, okay, we're

breathing in, like peace from the Lord and we're exhaling fear.

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Right.

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That makes it a little easier too, but ties it into that

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Trish: verse.

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I love that.

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I don't know if you know my, my story, but I went to

a private Christian school that Oh, my whole life.

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Did you know that?

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No.

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Yes.

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So I memorize scripture like a chance.

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Yeah.

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This girl knows them.

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I still, like, I don't, obviously, I don't now actively always memorize scripture.

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Yeah.

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But I can, out of nowhere, I'll hear a piece of a verse and I'm like.

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Bible drills, Bible verses all the things that was my life growing up.

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Oh, that's awesome.

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Lauren: Yeah.

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So, oh, go ahead.

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Go ahead.

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No, I just, I wasn't raised a Christian and so my husband was, and just.

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It's so interesting that like the more things that he knows

are just like the childhood things for our daughter too.

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Yeah.

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Trish: You know?

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Yeah.

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No, and I, I feel like there's a plus and a minus because

for a long time the Bible was a school book to me.

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Mm mm-hmm.

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Because we used it.

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I mean, I had Bible classes, my entire school career and Bible verse like by

memorizing bible verses and you know, when you're a little kid and you're like

trying to cheat on your Bible verse test, there's something really crazy about that.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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You know, like you're cheating on the Bible verse test.

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Yeah.

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But so for a long time it was like a. It was just a textbook to me.

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Mm-hmm.

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So there, you know, obviously that changed for me at a certain point.

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So I would love to also ask you, because as an a fellow

labor and delivery nurse, what do you think that.

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The common misconceptions about labor pain and going unmedicated or natural birth.

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What do you think, like I'd love to like kind of riff with you as a labor nurse.

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What do you think that some of the common misconceptions

of people think when it comes to labor pain.

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Yeah, because I have some thoughts on that.

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Yeah, I'd love to hear yours.

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Lauren: Absolutely.

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Well the first thing that came to mind I think is one of the biggest misconceptions

is that you don't have to prepare 'cause you're just planning on getting an epidural.

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Trish: Right.

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Lauren: And we both

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Trish: know that's

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Lauren: a

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Trish: joke.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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What is epidural get?

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It is not guaranteed.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Lauren: It's not guaranteed if you can't get it or if it doesn't work.

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Trish: Yeah.

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Or there's a line of other moms ahead of you, which we know happens.

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Yes.

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And, and even if that's the case, maybe you end up

getting it, but you might have to wait two hours.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like what do you do in the meantime?

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Exactly.

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If, if you have no tools.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Lauren: Exactly.

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And I feel a lot of people don't understand that unless

they've taken a birth course and they're prepared.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And so it always breaks my heart when I'm the nurse

in triage saying, so it's gonna be a little bit Yeah.

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You know, or,

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Trish: or they get an epidural and it doesn't work for them.

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Lauren: Yes.

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That I think is the worst.

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That is.

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That really is because this is not what we prepared for.

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Trish: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Or they have a hotspot, which for those of you guys listening,

a hotspot is like, you just have an area that's not covered.

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Mm-hmm.

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I have never had an epidural.

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I've had all of my unmedicated.

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So I can't say this with experience, but experience of watching it.

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I feel like the thought to me is, if you have all this coverage

but this one spot, I feel like that would be even more intense.

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Yeah.

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Lauren: Yeah.

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I think mentally too.

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'cause you weren't prepared for that to happen.

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Mm-hmm.

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I do wonder if it's like a little bit better than feeling everything everywhere.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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But still the expectation is it's not working, but

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Trish: pain is pain.

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So if it's there, yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, I think another misconception that I personally really educate on is that.

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Because it's so painful.

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You have to be so scared and freaked out.

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Mm. Yeah.

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And that is not true.

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Yes.

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It's painful.

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And I don't know about you, but like this whole pain-free birth thing really ticks me off.

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Yeah.

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Like.

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Are we setting, we're setting people up for failure here.

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Yeah.

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When you say, oh, you can have a pain-free birth.

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Mm-hmm.

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You can have tell a birth you love.

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No.

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Lauren: Did I tell you when I was pregnant, I, I followed all the pain-free birth

stuff and then when I was in labor and I did Christian hypnobirthing, I was, yeah.

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I told all my coworkers, I'm not getting an epidural.

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I did all of that.

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Yeah.

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And when I was in labor and I was like, it hurts.

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And I felt like I wasn't close to God.

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Or like, it really messed with me, or you're doing something

396

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Trish: wrong because why is it hurting when she said it could be PainFREE.

397

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.

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That's what I don't like at all.

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Mm-hmm.

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I agree.

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I feel the same thing in the coaching, the business coaching world with all these

people who are like, oh, you can create a CanBan and count and you'll make 10 KA month.

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And I'm like, I work my butt off.

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Like that is not right.

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And then I think in both cases you're setting people up for failure.

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Mm-hmm.

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I agree because.

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I tell my students it is gonna hurt.

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It is painful, but it's manageable.

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And if you have the right tools, you can actually, like I

loved my, now I did have one daughter who was straight op.

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Mm-hmm.

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She's the one, she's sitting out there right now pregnant.

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And that threw me for a loop.

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Yeah.

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Because of the back pain.

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Lauren: Mm-hmm.

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Trish: But other than that.

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I was very in control and it was very quick 'cause she was baby number five.

419

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So it wasn't like a long-term situation, but I feel

like they're really doing these women a disservice.

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And I would, I've had 16 years, I did have one, one patient who had

a disorder that she couldn't feel pain, she had a pain-free birth.

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I love that.

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And it was scary as hell.

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No, it was not.

424

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No, it was not good because she couldn't tell what was happening.

425

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Oh, and this is kind of a funny story.

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Mm-hmm.

427

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I, so we were super, super busy.

428

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I was on a travel assignment in Texas and I had taken a patient over to postpartum.

429

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They're like, you have a, you have another patient.

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In triage.

431

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She's like four to five centimeters.

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First baby, she's young.

433

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She was a younger girl.

434

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You need to take her to her labor room.

435

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So I go and get her and I always walk them to the labor room.

436

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Yeah, that's just my, my jam.

437

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And so I'm walking her and I am.

438

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I know you know how you know the assessment questions

and you're like, I'm gonna do 'em on the way.

439

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So I'm asking her and I get to, have you seen any

other specialists or have you had to see other doctors?

440

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she's like, oh yeah.

441

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Well, I have to go into the city, the big city because I have, and

she tells me the disorder, and she's like, and I can't feel pain.

442

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And I was like, oh, shoot.

443

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You know?

444

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'cause she's like, she also told me if she gets stressed out, she passes out.

445

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Gosh.

446

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So I'm like, oh gosh.

447

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Oh fun.

448

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So I'm like, okay.

449

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So I get her in the room, I get her in bed and I check her.

450

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She is complete plus one.

451

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Oh my gosh.

452

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I love it.

453

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I'm like, but, but I don't wanna, I don't wanna

freak her out because I don't want her to pass out.

454

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Yeah, of course.

455

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So I. Okay.

456

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I'm pushing the call light.

457

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I'm like, Hey, can I get a birth, a delivery team in here like right now?

458

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Yeah.

459

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And her mom, so then she's telling me that her mom stresses

her out and she passes out because of her mom all the time.

460

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Oh, her mom walks in.

461

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At that point

462

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I was like, could anything else happen right now?

463

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So stressful.

464

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But we did not have any pass out.

465

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I did have to sit mom in the corner 'cause she was stressing me out too.

466

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Uhhuh.

467

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And we had a baby like.

468

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Eight minutes later.

469

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Oh, that's amazing.

470

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I was like, okay.

471

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Lovely.

472

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Yeah.

473

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So that was a pain-free birth.

474

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That was, that was I went off on a tangent, but that was a pain-free birth.

475

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Yeah.

476

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Yeah.

477

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But it wasn't actually like, she wasn't excited about it.

478

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Oh yeah.

479

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At least she was there.

480

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Thank God.

481

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Yeah, thank God.

482

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Yeah.

483

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That would've been a, a rough surprise at home.

484

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Yeah.

485

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It would've been.

486

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Yes.

487

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So anyway, that was a pain-free birth.

488

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I do not like the whole concept mm-hmm.

489

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Of people saying that because it is painful.

490

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And for those of you guys listening, it's painful.

491

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But our bodies are so incredible, like God made them so incredible

that at the same time our body also has what you need to handle it.

492

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Yes.

493

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Yeah.

494

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So.

495

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It's, it is painful, but if you have the tools and you lean

into what your body is doing, and I believe that's all mindset.

496

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Lauren: Mm-hmm.

497

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Yeah.

498

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

500

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But like even just the way that God made our hormones is so beautiful.

501

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Right?

502

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Like just the way that oxytocin and prostaglandins

work and how endorphins work, like mm-hmm.

503

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It's just so cool that he knew that we needed this.

504

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Yeah.

505

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You know, and he gave it to us.

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Trish: Yeah.

507

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And that's what Lauren's talking about, I love this, that the hormone,

which we also call the love hormone, is the primary hormone for birth.

508

00:18:52,930 --> 00:18:57,340

So the love hormone is entangled into this process.

509

00:18:57,370 --> 00:18:57,460

Mm-hmm.

510

00:18:57,700 --> 00:19:02,220

And then we have these natural, narcotics that flood our system.

511

00:19:02,790 --> 00:19:03,995

When you are.

512

00:19:05,295 --> 00:19:06,015

In labor.

513

00:19:06,015 --> 00:19:11,955

Of course we have to work against adrenaline and other things that

combat that, but that's where education and preparation comes in.

514

00:19:11,955 --> 00:19:13,035

Yeah, which is amazing.

515

00:19:13,275 --> 00:19:13,665

Lauren: So good.

516

00:19:13,665 --> 00:19:13,755

I

517

00:19:13,755 --> 00:19:14,115

Trish: love it.

518

00:19:14,373 --> 00:19:26,328

So I would love to hear what would you say to moms, because one of the big things

that I talk about and I stand on is speaking up and advocating for yourself mm-hmm.

519

00:19:26,388 --> 00:19:27,618

In the hospital.

520

00:19:27,671 --> 00:19:32,711

What is your stance on like, what are some of the ways

that these moms, obviously they need to be educated.

521

00:19:32,724 --> 00:19:32,934

Yeah.

522

00:19:32,964 --> 00:19:33,384

But.

523

00:19:33,535 --> 00:19:39,055

What are some ways that you teach your students or you teach your patients to speak up?

524

00:19:39,985 --> 00:19:45,325

When it comes to advocating, 'cause we know there's

some nurses and doctors that are hard to speak up to.

525

00:19:46,075 --> 00:19:48,565

Lauren: I actually have a funny story about this.

526

00:19:48,595 --> 00:19:48,925

Okay.

527

00:19:49,105 --> 00:19:49,225

Yay.

528

00:19:49,235 --> 00:19:56,465

So I had a patient come in for her scheduled induction, like

6:00 AM and her and her husband we're still friends to this day.

529

00:19:56,555 --> 00:19:57,709

Like we were not friends.

530

00:19:57,709 --> 00:19:58,759

I just, I'm their nurse.

531

00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:59,449

We just met.

532

00:19:59,479 --> 00:19:59,689

Yeah.

533

00:19:59,749 --> 00:20:02,689

And they came in for their induction and they're just funny people.

534

00:20:02,894 --> 00:20:02,954

Yeah.

535

00:20:03,134 --> 00:20:04,664

Like you just get along right away.

536

00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:10,050

And so the dad, I do all of the education for the induction

and they were like, yeah, we didn't take a birth class.

537

00:20:10,050 --> 00:20:12,000

And I was like, well guys, I'm gonna give you one here in.

538

00:20:12,620 --> 00:20:14,570

A 20 minute birth class, this is it for you.

539

00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:14,960

Yeah.

540

00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:14,980

You know?

541

00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:15,075

Yeah.

542

00:20:15,230 --> 00:20:20,120

So I just kind of went over all the important stuff and

one of them is how to advocate for yourself in labor.

543

00:20:20,187 --> 00:20:21,582

I feel like that's one of the most important things.

544

00:20:21,682 --> 00:20:26,787

It is the most important, and so especially if you

get pulled somewhere else or you leave and go home.

545

00:20:27,217 --> 00:20:27,997

Exactly.

546

00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:28,087

Yeah.

547

00:20:28,087 --> 00:20:31,582

And so I really just go over the brain acronym, which I'm sure mm-hmm.

548

00:20:31,667 --> 00:20:32,617

Sure you're familiar with.

549

00:20:32,827 --> 00:20:33,037

Yeah.

550

00:20:33,067 --> 00:20:35,577

And, we go over like, what, what are the benefits?

551

00:20:35,577 --> 00:20:36,477

What are the risks?

552

00:20:36,477 --> 00:20:36,717

Right.

553

00:20:36,717 --> 00:20:37,527

Alternatives.

554

00:20:37,527 --> 00:20:37,587

Yeah.

555

00:20:37,677 --> 00:20:39,057

What's your intuition telling you?

556

00:20:39,307 --> 00:20:45,962

So I went over all of that and then I, I always wanna explain

to the husband, like, Hey, you are that person to stand in and.

557

00:20:46,217 --> 00:20:53,597

And stick up for her and say, if you know that they're, they're offering something

she doesn't want, you can say, Hey, that's actually not something we wanna do.

558

00:20:54,017 --> 00:20:58,607

Or you can say, Hey, can you step out of the room so we

can have a moment to talk to each other so that mm-hmm.

559

00:20:58,607 --> 00:21:01,397

There's no pressure on making your decision, right.

560

00:21:01,427 --> 00:21:01,547

Yeah.

561

00:21:01,787 --> 00:21:05,157

But I said start with asking like risks and benefits and I kid you.

562

00:21:05,917 --> 00:21:13,507

Not five seconds later that I finished saying that the doctor came

into the room and sat down on the stool and started talking to them.

563

00:21:13,507 --> 00:21:20,227

And I'm just standing there silent and the dad looks at him and

goes, can you tell me what the risks and benefits to that would be?

564

00:21:22,957 --> 00:21:25,147

And I'm just dying in the corner of the room.

565

00:21:27,412 --> 00:21:28,822

You're like, yes.

566

00:21:28,822 --> 00:21:29,152

Yeah.

567

00:21:29,302 --> 00:21:32,452

But it was so beautiful because dads don't know.

568

00:21:32,457 --> 00:21:32,737

Yeah.

569

00:21:32,757 --> 00:21:33,172

You know what I mean?

570

00:21:33,297 --> 00:21:33,617

Mm-hmm.

571

00:21:33,697 --> 00:21:36,832

And he was like, ready to jump in and a way to go, dad.

572

00:21:36,982 --> 00:21:37,312

Yeah.

573

00:21:37,312 --> 00:21:38,752

I'm so proud of him.

574

00:21:38,752 --> 00:21:39,892

It was so cute.

575

00:21:39,952 --> 00:21:40,312

Yeah.

576

00:21:40,582 --> 00:21:44,362

But really, I feel like saying, you know, can I have a moment to think about this?

577

00:21:44,362 --> 00:21:45,562

And not feeling rushed Yeah.

578

00:21:45,712 --> 00:21:46,732

To make a decision.

579

00:21:46,802 --> 00:21:51,782

Trish: And, and that's what like inside the courses, I teach them how to read the room.

580

00:21:51,872 --> 00:21:51,992

Mm-hmm.

581

00:21:52,292 --> 00:21:53,402

And there's.

582

00:21:54,002 --> 00:21:58,922

You can tell when there's not time, but you still can have a pause.

583

00:21:59,072 --> 00:21:59,342

Mm-hmm.

584

00:21:59,642 --> 00:22:06,032

You know, so if your, if your team is rushing in, people

are like frantic and they're putting oxygen on you mm-hmm.

585

00:22:06,032 --> 00:22:10,112

And they're flipping mom to her side and they're

telling you this, that that's not the time.

586

00:22:10,112 --> 00:22:11,372

Can everyone step out please?

587

00:22:11,372 --> 00:22:12,542

Not a good time for that.

588

00:22:12,632 --> 00:22:12,932

Totally.

589

00:22:12,932 --> 00:22:18,482

But re being able to read the room, he comes in, he sits down on the stool.

590

00:22:19,787 --> 00:22:19,907

Yeah.

591

00:22:20,387 --> 00:22:22,907

And he was like, we, we know the rollup on the stool.

592

00:22:22,907 --> 00:22:23,387

Sitch.

593

00:22:23,477 --> 00:22:23,837

Yes.

594

00:22:23,837 --> 00:22:24,797

That happens a lot.

595

00:22:25,127 --> 00:22:28,337

Like that's a, let me get down to your level and look you in the eye.

596

00:22:28,997 --> 00:22:29,327

Yeah.

597

00:22:29,447 --> 00:22:30,017

You know,

598

00:22:30,407 --> 00:22:32,957

Lauren: Hey, I would prefer that over like standing in the corner.

599

00:22:33,047 --> 00:22:33,167

Right.

600

00:22:33,257 --> 00:22:33,947

No, I agree.

601

00:22:33,947 --> 00:22:35,807

But we all know the rollup.

602

00:22:36,107 --> 00:22:38,447

Trish: You've been at this for a long time.

603

00:22:38,807 --> 00:22:39,147

Yeah, yeah.

604

00:22:39,827 --> 00:22:43,367

You know, we don't wanna have an emergent situation here.

605

00:22:43,457 --> 00:22:43,877

Yeah.

606

00:22:44,657 --> 00:22:45,947

So I, I love that.

607

00:22:45,947 --> 00:22:47,177

That's, that's great.

608

00:22:47,387 --> 00:22:47,447

Yeah.

609

00:22:47,447 --> 00:22:47,687

Okay.

610

00:22:47,687 --> 00:23:02,922

So now I would love to hear from you, how do you feel that the hospitals

are starting to be more supportive of women who are educated and

making decisions, or do you feel like we're still fighting a battle?

611

00:23:04,422 --> 00:23:05,052

You know,

612

00:23:06,222 --> 00:23:08,652

Lauren: unfortunately I feel like we're still fighting a battle.

613

00:23:08,745 --> 00:23:16,275

Yeah, I, Marco Polo, my, my friends on my way to work in the morning and

every morning I'm like, guys, another day I'm here to fight the good fight.

614

00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,010

Yeah.

615

00:23:17,985 --> 00:23:18,165

Nice.

616

00:23:18,205 --> 00:23:22,755

And so I think it really is dependent on, your provider, of course.

617

00:23:22,905 --> 00:23:22,995

Mm-hmm.

618

00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:30,285

And the nurses that are taking care of you and why I advocate

so much for you to get a doula who is on your same page.

619

00:23:30,375 --> 00:23:30,735

Right?

620

00:23:30,735 --> 00:23:30,795

Yeah.

621

00:23:30,825 --> 00:23:32,025

Who can help you advocate.

622

00:23:32,275 --> 00:23:36,805

And then just being educated so that you can know, like you can say yes or no to anything.

623

00:23:37,495 --> 00:23:37,555

Yeah.

624

00:23:37,555 --> 00:23:38,935

And feeling confident in that.

625

00:23:39,295 --> 00:23:39,535

Trish: Yeah.

626

00:23:39,565 --> 00:23:39,985

Lauren: Right.

627

00:23:40,059 --> 00:23:47,079

I will say though, the hospital that I work at, we are working on,

I'm on the team to work on building a home birth room in our hospital.

628

00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:47,709

Trish: Ooh.

629

00:23:47,709 --> 00:23:48,549

I love it.

630

00:23:48,609 --> 00:23:48,999

Lauren: Yeah.

631

00:23:48,999 --> 00:23:49,664

So I, oh my gosh.

632

00:23:49,664 --> 00:23:51,189

I think progress is being made.

633

00:23:51,287 --> 00:23:51,347

Yeah.

634

00:23:51,377 --> 00:23:55,787

But it just takes a team of people who are willing to, you know, commit to do that.

635

00:23:56,357 --> 00:23:56,717

Trish: Yeah.

636

00:23:56,767 --> 00:24:07,327

And also for labor nurses and providers to expand their

knowledge base, like go out and take classes, learn more.

637

00:24:07,327 --> 00:24:07,417

Mm-hmm.

638

00:24:07,687 --> 00:24:10,087

Like evidence-based birth, like mm-hmm.

639

00:24:10,327 --> 00:24:17,287

Do spinning babies do things that get you outside of what

we've just been taught from our policy and our handbook?

640

00:24:17,587 --> 00:24:18,697

Lauren: Yeah, absolutely.

641

00:24:19,027 --> 00:24:19,927

And I, being a travel

642

00:24:19,927 --> 00:24:20,287

Trish: nurse.

643

00:24:20,517 --> 00:24:21,567

Did that for me.

644

00:24:21,927 --> 00:24:22,197

Oh yeah.

645

00:24:22,197 --> 00:24:34,829

Like leaving and being able to go to other hospitals and be like,

okay, so in Tennessee it's really dangerous to eat in labor, but in

Washington it's not dangerous because bodies are different somehow.

646

00:24:34,834 --> 00:24:35,634

Yeah, a hundred percent.

647

00:24:35,784 --> 00:24:36,074

What?

648

00:24:36,134 --> 00:24:36,434

You know?

649

00:24:36,984 --> 00:24:37,274

Yeah.

650

00:24:37,274 --> 00:24:37,574

Lauren: Yeah.

651

00:24:37,574 --> 00:24:38,234

That's true.

652

00:24:38,384 --> 00:24:44,914

I will say I'm thankful for, the place that I work because

I've been able to educate the providers I work with.

653

00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:50,909

And the other day I was walking down the hallway and one of the

doctors was like, oh, labor Lauren, we need you in this room.

654

00:24:51,209 --> 00:24:51,674

And I was like, oh.

655

00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:53,199

Okay.

656

00:24:53,199 --> 00:25:03,467

You know, and so I do feel honored that the more labor nurses are,

going out on a limb and like taking that time to educate the providers

that they work with in a loving and respectful way, you know?

657

00:25:03,497 --> 00:25:03,707

Yeah.

658

00:25:03,757 --> 00:25:07,537

I think that's where change is made, and so I'm thankful to get to be a part of that.

659

00:25:07,537 --> 00:25:10,152

Well, let's just be real that there's some providers who are not open

660

00:25:10,172 --> 00:25:11,032

Trish: or willing for that.

661

00:25:11,997 --> 00:25:12,627

Lauren: That's true.

662

00:25:12,807 --> 00:25:13,437

That's true.

663

00:25:13,464 --> 00:25:13,914

You know?

664

00:25:14,064 --> 00:25:14,604

Mm-hmm.

665

00:25:15,174 --> 00:25:17,694

Because some providers are just not for that.

666

00:25:18,264 --> 00:25:20,454

I had one provider that is that person.

667

00:25:20,510 --> 00:25:24,560

I had her sit down and I said, feel your, your your pelvis.

668

00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:28,670

I'm like, this is why we don't pull our legs back when we're pushing.

669

00:25:28,670 --> 00:25:30,470

And she just looked at me like I was so stupid.

670

00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,154

Trish: I can't even believe that

671

00:25:33,154 --> 00:25:34,564

Lauren: you even did that with her.

672

00:25:34,804 --> 00:25:35,224

Oh yeah.

673

00:25:35,224 --> 00:25:35,974

I was like, here, sit down.

674

00:25:35,974 --> 00:25:37,054

Put your hands on your bottom.

675

00:25:37,054 --> 00:25:37,114

Yeah.

676

00:25:37,294 --> 00:25:39,724

Let's, let's both of this together before we go in the room.

677

00:25:39,964 --> 00:25:41,524

I just want you to feel what I'm trying to do.

678

00:25:42,937 --> 00:25:44,497

Trish: I just have a newfound respect for you.

679

00:25:44,677 --> 00:25:49,357

That's pretty amazing because I know those doctors

that are not receptive to that, that's hard to do.

680

00:25:49,507 --> 00:25:49,957

It is.

681

00:25:50,437 --> 00:25:50,857

Yeah.

682

00:25:51,067 --> 00:25:51,427

Yeah.

683

00:25:51,457 --> 00:25:53,197

But I think you're just so sweet and nice.

684

00:25:53,197 --> 00:25:54,337

You probably can get away with it.

685

00:25:54,752 --> 00:25:56,497

Lauren: Yeah, I think so too.

686

00:25:56,707 --> 00:25:59,257

And I am, I am doing it like what's best for the patient.

687

00:25:59,257 --> 00:25:59,887

That's my goal.

688

00:25:59,917 --> 00:26:00,187

Yeah.

689

00:26:00,337 --> 00:26:00,727

Right.

690

00:26:00,727 --> 00:26:00,817

Yeah.

691

00:26:00,817 --> 00:26:01,267

So,

692

00:26:01,417 --> 00:26:04,387

Trish: well, do they always, is that always their goal?

693

00:26:04,387 --> 00:26:08,837

I don't know exactly most of the time, but there

are some that it's not like it's very mm-hmm.

694

00:26:09,027 --> 00:26:10,887

Especially those old school doctors.

695

00:26:10,947 --> 00:26:11,037

Mm-hmm.

696

00:26:11,277 --> 00:26:15,267

Like I had a doctor I worked with in Tennessee that I worked with him for years.

697

00:26:15,267 --> 00:26:16,527

So I had a home-based hospital.

698

00:26:16,527 --> 00:26:16,617

Mm-hmm.

699

00:26:16,857 --> 00:26:18,270

And then I worked as a travel nurse.

700

00:26:18,314 --> 00:26:23,204

Well, I had the most kush job 'cause I only had to do

like one shift every three months to stay on staff.

701

00:26:23,444 --> 00:26:24,914

It was so perfect.

702

00:26:24,919 --> 00:26:25,149

Mm-hmm.

703

00:26:25,229 --> 00:26:28,244

And so when I would be in between travel assignments, I would work there.

704

00:26:28,244 --> 00:26:30,014

And we had this one doctor who's super old.

705

00:26:30,824 --> 00:26:32,744

Very tall guy, very strong.

706

00:26:32,834 --> 00:26:38,294

Never laughed, never smile, and my goal was to get

this guy to smile and I finally got a little kick.

707

00:26:39,014 --> 00:26:41,054

Little half smile out of him one time.

708

00:26:41,144 --> 00:26:41,804

I love that.

709

00:26:41,804 --> 00:26:44,024

I cannot tell the story on here.

710

00:26:44,084 --> 00:26:47,144

It's definitely between a labor nurse type story, but mm-hmm.

711

00:26:47,594 --> 00:26:48,404

I got him to smile.

712

00:26:48,404 --> 00:26:51,584

I was so happy, but he would not have been receptive to any of that.

713

00:26:51,584 --> 00:26:51,854

Yeah.

714

00:26:51,914 --> 00:26:56,954

But in his defense, he also stayed out of the

room until the baby was literally sliding out.

715

00:26:57,794 --> 00:26:58,244

Lauren: Mm-hmm.

716

00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:58,839

Trish: Mm-hmm.

717

00:26:59,044 --> 00:27:02,204

So as long as I just didn't bring them in, we were golden.

718

00:27:02,324 --> 00:27:02,564

Yeah.

719

00:27:02,564 --> 00:27:05,894

So, which I think is another surprise to most patients.

720

00:27:06,244 --> 00:27:06,544

Oh yeah.

721

00:27:06,544 --> 00:27:08,474

That they think their doctor is gonna be there.

722

00:27:08,564 --> 00:27:08,594

Oh.

723

00:27:08,654 --> 00:27:10,064

And I hate to break it to you.

724

00:27:10,064 --> 00:27:12,914

Doctor likes to come in when your baby's about to come out.

725

00:27:13,124 --> 00:27:13,394

Lauren: Yeah.

726

00:27:13,394 --> 00:27:13,724

Period.

727

00:27:13,724 --> 00:27:14,264

If we call 'em

728

00:27:14,264 --> 00:27:15,254

Trish: too soon, they don't like it.

729

00:27:15,494 --> 00:27:15,884

Lauren: Yeah.

730

00:27:15,914 --> 00:27:18,314

They wanna see ears and maybe someone browse.

731

00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:18,449

Yeah.

732

00:27:18,854 --> 00:27:19,334

Yeah.

733

00:27:19,634 --> 00:27:20,414

And then they will.

734

00:27:20,654 --> 00:27:20,984

Trish: Okay.

735

00:27:20,984 --> 00:27:23,684

So we are coming to a close.

736

00:27:23,984 --> 00:27:29,144

Will you just tell, you've already said your username,

but tell everybody intentionally where they can find you.

737

00:27:29,414 --> 00:27:30,044

Lauren: Yeah, yeah.

738

00:27:30,044 --> 00:27:34,604

So I am Labor Lauren on Instagram and my website is labor lauren.com.

739

00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:35,489

There you go.

740

00:27:35,489 --> 00:27:36,629

Trish: Very, very easy.

741

00:27:36,659 --> 00:27:36,899

Yeah.

742

00:27:36,899 --> 00:27:38,579

So this is Labor Lauren, right here.

743

00:27:38,579 --> 00:27:38,639

Yeah.

744

00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:47,159

Well, thank you so much for listening to the Lord and following this path, and

I'm really glad you don't pass out in births anymore because we needed you.

745

00:27:47,729 --> 00:27:49,739

Yeah, I think that's so funny.

746

00:27:49,739 --> 00:27:56,024

I'm just in, I'm in awe of you that you would even be like,

yeah, let me go do that after I passed out both times.

747

00:27:56,024 --> 00:27:56,294

Yeah.

748

00:27:56,361 --> 00:27:58,191

Alright, well thank you for coming today, Lauren.

749

00:27:58,341 --> 00:27:58,641

Yeah.

750

00:27:58,641 --> 00:28:00,261

Thank you so much, Trish, for having me.

751

00:28:00,439 --> 00:28:01,069

You're welcome.

752

00:28:04,966 --> 00:28:07,366

Speaker 5: What an incredible conversation with Lauren.

753

00:28:07,366 --> 00:28:15,376

I hope her wisdom about embracing faith over fear has left you

feeling empowered and excited about your own birth journey.

754

00:28:15,436 --> 00:28:25,486

Remember, your body was made to do this, and with the right mindset, the right

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