Sa.

Welcome back to the Maya Games.

Hi, Aaliyah.

Hi, Kelsey.

Let's just start with how are we?

I've been really, really aware in this last season of having conversations with people that are shared with others of, like, the vibe shift once the record buttons hit.

And one of the things that's helped me and I think helped other people I've been in conversation with is just, like, taking as much time as needed to drop in.

So I like to do that by just, like, word vomiting a bit about how I'm feeling in the moment.

Do you feel like doing that right now?

Would you rather me do that first?

I could do it.

Um, how are you?

Oh, yeah.

What's here?

Um, doing pretty good.

Happy New Year.

Happy Gregorian New Year.

Um, yeah, I mean, we've had conversations about this a bit over the last several months last year.

And I know I'm not the only one that's, like, kind of feeling the intensity of the world manifesting itself in various ways.

But the way that I'm showing up right now, I'm noticing that I have to, like, really actively choose presence and choose to be available for what I find valuable in the work that I want to do.

Otherwise, I'm also very happy to just not do that and disassociate and do my own thing and just kind of let myself be taken care of by either inertia or the universe or just whatever systems or habits I already have in place.

Um, so in this moment, I'm choosing presence while still kind of feeling, like, aware of the fact that there are other choices I could be making.

And I think that that.

That's probably pretty fitting for a lot of people right now, considering how wacky and wild the world is and how we have to show up.

And it's like, post holiday season as.

As of the time of us recording this.

And, yeah, I'm sure people can relate to the idea of, like, having to, like, choose to show up in a certain way because there's so much other information, energetic political, social, relational stuff happening right now.

Totally.

Yeah.

I relate so much to what you're saying, and I already feel like, oh, there's so many little sparks of hermit energy and Wheel of Fortune energy in what you just said, too.

Precisely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I feel like I've talked about this so much sometimes I get.

I talk so much in many places, of which some people tune into multiples.

I get, like, insecure about.

I've said this five times already, and I don't know why.

I, like, I have had Awareness that that's like a pointless insecurity for a long time, but it's one I haven't been able to shed yet.

Shout out year of the Snake closing.

But sometimes it helps me to just say it out loud.

But anyways, one of the things I've talked about a bit here and there over the last season is there's a particular shedding that's happened for me in the last six months or so.

I always mark the new moon in Virgo that was the non eclipse one.

So it was like sometime in the late summer there was a new moon before we had our official Virgo Pisces eclipses.

And that new moon in Virgo.

I was like going through something.

It's my 10th house.

I was going through something really weird connected to my experience of sharing from a place of vulnerability.

Yeah, there was this.

I was freezing.

I was watching myself have freeze responses while in some kind of setting where I was being perceived.

Whether it was a one on one session or podcast recording or a class or whatever, I was watching myself start to freeze because I would have some kind of shame come up and in that moment just get really lost in my head and not be able to come back to my body.

And a series of things happened around that Virgo new moon where I had the opportunity to watch this pattern and watch this thing, this repeated thing take place several times in settings where I felt like pretty safe and was resourced to be able to work through it live.

And I haven't actually reflected on this in a very linear way up to now.

So I feel vulnerable even trying to share it because I don't actually feel like I've come to a real total place of understanding.

But part of what I've watched is since that kind of like climax of me watching that pattern and then being in setting, like being resourced with settings where I could experience it with awareness without like completely leaving my body.

I've now had the experience many, many times over the last six months of like being in a state of.

It's almost like where's the overlap between channeling and dissociation is maybe a question that comes in here too because I've like watched myself be in this experience of I know I'm being perceived.

I feel that kind of energy shift of okay, we're recording now.

And I feel like what that does in my system and sometimes that doesn't do much.

Sometimes it's, I don't know, depending on my mood or whatever, all sorts of factors, sometimes that actually feels really Supportive.

And I get into my like 5th liney performance mode and it feels really resourcing.

And other times I clench and I get really vulnerable about.

Yeah, like, am I going to be able, if I'm in kind of a low or if I'm in kind of a.

To use human design language, like a transference fog.

Like I can feel my mind is in transferred mode and I'm still like showing up in a place where I've positioned myself as someone with something to say specific to spiritual wisdom.

I had this narrative of like it's not safe for me to show up in this role when I can assess for myself that I'm low right now.

Or I can assess for myself that I'm like in distortion right now.

And so that would like that awareness.

It was almost like too much awareness.

Like that awareness would send me into this mind spiral.

And anyways, this has probably been happening for a long time, but I became very conscious of it not that long ago.

And since then I've been having this experience of kind of watching it happen and watch myself get to this edge that I'd been to before, but be able to work through it and come back to my body live.

So I've had this.

Now I've had this repeated experience of I like enter kind of a.

Like I feel like it just happened.

I enter sort of a dissociated mode.

I get really in my head, I get really scared, I contract.

But then I just like keep trying to relax through it.

And a lot of times for me that sounds like exactly what we've all just witnessed me do now.

Which is like, just keep talking through it, just keep moving the energy through it.

And then I get to feel myself in real time return to what I call home frequency.

And then like that threat of getting lost in my mind and being perceived lost in my mind doesn't have power over me because I just did it.

And I just like willingly did it in a vulnerable place where people are receiving me and I'm like choosing to still share it.

And somehow that really shifts the dynamic.

So I don't know how much that relates to what you were actually just saying, but that's been a very large theme for me as of late.

Well, what you're just saying made me think of something that I thought about in terms of us having a conversation today and thinking about 2025 as a nine year.

And so I'm a tarot reader and Christ conscious channel astrologer student of yours in human design.

And so I think we Talked about talking about this.

2025 is a hermit year, and we're moving into a Wheel of fortune year in 2026.

And a way I thought about, like, kind of framing that kind of jump from 9 to 10 and thinking about myself as, like, a teacher and, like, being able to, like, kind of appreciate all the knowledge that I've already accumulated.

Like, there's often, like, at least I feel a pressure as someone that considers themselves a teacher of, like, trying to come up with something new or relevant or making sure I'm engaging myself and the audience, but, like, also remembering that there's so much that it's already there.

There's so much knowing already there.

And I see this kind of 2025, 2026 movement as one of being, like, it's.

It's one for the perfectionists and the planners to, like, try to learn how to free ourselves from getting stuck and getting disassociated.

The hermit, to me is a lot about focus and discernment and intentionality and all that focus and discernment and intentionality.

It allows for the trust that's necessary to be able to flow with a Wheel of Fortune year and to be able to just kind of go with what you know, even if there's chaotic or disassociative or other kind of, like, impulses coming up around what you want to share what you want to do, you know?

Yeah, no, that's so, so good.

That's, like, very, very in line with where I've been.

My thoughts have been coalescing around this transition too.

Yeah.

There's, like, such a sensitivity, I feel like, with the hermit.

Okay.

But I want to pause before we keep getting into it and just give a little context.

Zooming out for a second.

So it must have been over a year at this point.

I think it was probably the end of 2024.

I don't know.

Maybe it was early 2025.

But I kept having this thought that wouldn't go away of wanting to have a recorded conversation with Aleeyah about 2025 being a hermit year.

Cause Aliyah's like, I was gonna say one of my go to tarot people, but you're actually the only person I've had pull cards for me who's not me in a really long time.

So you are not.

One of.

You are my go to tarot person and one of the first teachers I had on tarot too.

And I'm a very, like.

My orientation to tarot is very second line.

Y.

Like, I build relationships with cards and they're a little bit rooted in like the math of it.

But I don't feel confident in a first line or third line way with Tarot, the way I do with systems that speak a little bit more clearly to me and that are more mathy, like astrology and human design.

So I've been kind of seeing the hermit and wanting to talk about it, but not really fully trusting my own foundation in it.

And as an example of mind versus body, I kept having the thought to do that.

The thought wouldn't go away for pretty much a whole year, but there was just not ever energy to actually move on it and initiate it.

And then at some point in early December, I think I started to get these little sparkles of what Wheel of Fortune was gonna be.

And I was like, okay, maybe it's time to finally have this convo with Aleeyah.

But instead of it being about hermit specifically, it'll be retrospective on hermit and moving into Wheel of Fortune.

So.

And there was energy.

So now we're finally here and yeah, I would love.

I think maybe it would be helpful to talk about what are we talking about when we call it a hermit year and a Wheel of Fortune year, which I'm sure either of us could explain rather easily.

And also, yeah, should we introduce you via your design in astro at all?

Anything else you want to say about what you do besides what you've already said?

So I'm a 13 sacral generator.

I am a Scorpio sun, Taurus moon, Capricorn rising, ruled by Saturn and Sagittarius in the 12th house.

Adds a little bit of extra flavor.

That 12th house, Saturn and Sagittarius.

Not nothing.

Not nothing, that's for sure.

And yeah, I'm a writer, tarot reader, mystic Christ, consciousness channel astrologer.

Just someone who likes philosophizing and thinking about pop culture and social culture, the macro micro, bringing it all together.

I can't remember what else you asked me.

I'm originally from Chicago and I'm currently based in Austin, Texas.

I can't remember what else he has.

Just open ended shit.

That's great though.

Thank you.

Cross of Sphinx feels maybe irrelevant.

Yeah, cool.

Thank you for all that.

Okay, so we're in A.

It's January 4, 2026.

At the time of recording, my mind is like telling me to say stuff about how God, there've just been so many people online being so adamant to talk about how the Gregorian calendar doesn't matter and it just comes off a little bit.

It clearly fucking matters.

To a certain extent it doesn't matter because we're living in this system.

It's not nothing.

Yeah, it's not nothing.

And even like we were talking about this on my altar call on the Patreon last night, like it doesn't feel when I align to actual Kairos time, like quality of time and seasonal time and astrology and stuff, it doesn't feel that in Saturn's seasons here at the turn of the new year and the start of another year, Capricorn in Aquarius seasons, we are having kind of a detached outlook on the energies that we're closing.

That's like what happens in winter, you know, that's what happens at this part of the tropical zodiac's process to me is like, I always think of once we hit Sagittarius season, actually, so is that late November is.

We're kind of like entering the afterlife of the year.

And we're looking at things from the outside from this more zoomed out perspective.

Because now we're in the territory of the third trimester zodiac, the territory of Jupiter and Saturn that have these widened perspectives.

It's a Jupiter sign, a Saturn sign, a Saturn sign, a Jupiter sign when we go through Sag Cap, Aqua, Pisces, respectively.

So I don't actually think that paying attention to the calendar shift and that reset is antithetical to what the more Kairos time zodiac stuff draws us to anyways.

So I don't personally find it to be in any way a problem.

And also like, oh, sorry to be.

In reflection about the turning of the years.

That's all.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's the system that we are physically, materially working with on this planet currently.

Capricorn is what we're doing.

And so just acknowledging the 3D structure that's holding us, I think absolutely makes a difference for where we're at, you know.

Dude, are you consciously thinking about how we just had a full moon in Cancer and you're talking about the polarity of the 3D structure holding us?

Capricorn, it's so on point for this particular moment.

The duality of the 3D structure.

Structure.

Capricorn versus the eternal soul felt structure, cancer.

The lunar structure versus the Saturnian structure.

I mean, as a Saturnian, I'm always thinking about structure.

Well, as a cap rising.

The reverence that you have for our relationship to the 3D structures holding us, specifically you're using the word holding us made me think, because Cancer, Capricorn, I call them the container axis, they hold us.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I Love that.

I like that you brought that.

Yeah, I like that you brought that in.

Because I'm like, it still fits within kairos.

And you're like, okay, but even if it fucking doesn't like the third dimension, that's such Saturnian Capricorn influence of you.

Thank you for that.

So anyways, yeah, we fuck with the New Year is all we're saying.

We're mystics and we still fuck with the Gregorian calendar New Year.

And you can do that too.

You are allowed to have a moderate, nuanced opinion of things, imagine.

But yeah, so these numbers, we're just gonna probably blend a bunch of shit.

I'm sure whether we directly name it or not, we'll be thinking about the astrology of these two years.

With both astrologers, I'm always very influenced by the key changes of the cross of planning into cross of sleeping Phoenix stuff.

And 2026 is the very last year before we're officially in the new era in 2027.

So that's always in my mind.

But the ones we.

And I think we both are a little bit influenced at the moment by the little bits we know.

I think you know a bit more than me, but probably we both feel like the little bits we know about the Chinese zodiac and moving from Year of the Snake into Year of the Horse.

But more specifically, my intention, at least, who knows what will happen.

But more specifically, my intention is to talk about, as Aleeyah's already mentioned, moving from a nine year to a ten year.

And I think numerologists would say nine to a one year, right?

Yes, that is what I would say.

But it's technically a 10 year, which can be reduced to a one year.

And then specifically the correlations of those two numbers to the major arcana cards, the Hermit and the Wheel of Fortune.

So just to be very clear, we get the 9 because 2 plus 2 plus 5 equals 9.

And we get the 10 because 2 plus 2 plus 6 equals 10.

Yep.

And then in numerology, you try to, with the exception of 11, 22 and 33, you try to get it down to a single digit number, which is why numerologists would call this just a one year.

So it's a one, a ten.

One year is what the hybrid mystics.

Would call it, I guess.

Yeah.

Because 10 is completion and one is beginning.

And I think, yeah, there's like completion and beginning are one and the same as maybe a vantage point we could take to honor both that.

It's a ten and a one year.

Yeah.

And it Feels like I don't know enough.

I know you know more about the 2027 human design stuff than I do, but it feels like fitting that it's like both ending and beginning right before 2027.

Yeah.

I'm also curious because I'm just like my seventh house placements.

I'm always like understanding things through understanding who I'm sitting with.

I'm curious to know your personal year stuff.

So 2025 was finishing an eight year for me and so I'm starting my nine year now.

So I'm currently.

I'm always one behind the collective.

Interesting.

Yeah.

What about you?

I'm finishing a four year old which is my natal number, Emperor Both because Emperor is associated with Aries but I'm also a four by birth and I'm moving into a five year hierophant which I have not really thought much about.

And hierophant's one of those cards that yeah, I had a sense of what it meant a long time ago and I haven't tuned into it very deeply lately.

And so I feel my relationship to it is going to be up for renegotiation because I've shifted so much since I last had a relationship with that card.

So.

Yeah, but Emperor feels true for sure.

And four feels true for the last year.

And yeah, if anybody wants to calculate your own and you don't know how you add up the single digits.

Right.

Of your birth month, birth date, day.

It actually ends up being the same number no matter how you do it.

But isn't it?

But there's a more correct way to do it in numerology and I don't remember which way.

I think it's a single digit though.

I think I always thought they were exactly the same and maybe the difference is just like one will reduce when the other won't.

And if you add up to something above 9 but 21 or below, at least for the tarot correspondence, you don't want it to reduce early.

Does that make sense?

I can't remember which way but I think I also have the same not super confident memory of you is I'm pretty sure the single digits will give you the the more correct one.

So for me, 3-28-1989, I would add three plus two plus eight plus one plus nine plus eight plus nine to get my birth number.

But in 2026 I take out the 1989 and I put in two two, six.

So.

Right.

And as a November 6th person I would.

You would do.

If you're do it to the quote unquote, like, formal or correct way, it'd be one plus one plus six plus.

Blah, blah, blah, the digits of the year.

Yeah, okay, so pause and do that if you want.

And you haven't.

But anyways, more collectively orienting, we're talking about nine year into ten and Hermit into Wheel of Fortune.

And apologies, because I just completely interrupted an organic flow we already had on.

No, I think the energy of it.

But.

But I think you.

You.

I'm glad that you asked me about my personal year, because I feel like what I've been dealing with throughout 2025, or what I was dealing with throughout 2025 was like this very kind of personal relationship to greater movements or bigger movements, macro movements.

And I feel like moving through an eight year, like, during the Year of the Snake, during a time of, like, shedding and staying close to the ground in a minute.

Waifs, in a manner of speaking, felt very right.

I'm curious as to what my personal 9 year will look like, but this idea of the way that I've been taught to think about eights, and this is also very much informed by eights in the tarot as well, is the idea of an 8 is that you go into the experience one way and then you come out the other in another way.

There's an inherently transformational element to 8.

There's like a change element to it, and it requires loss or transition or grief in some way.

And I definitely felt like I felt those things big time this year for sure.

And I also felt the transition to.

I felt a change.

I felt the movement into what comes next.

And I also say, like, what I teach about when I teach tarot, and I teach about the nines and tens and the tarot.

So that includes the minor arcana and the majors.

But especially this was kind of.

This framework was developed from thinking about the minor arcana, the nines and tens and the minor arcana.

But I talk about them as kind of different ways of dealing, the expressions of different ways of dealing with success and finality and completion.

And so in the tarot, there's four suits, pentacles, cups, wands, and swords.

And the pentacles are earth, water is cups, cups are water.

And I see those nines and tens as kind of reflecting the kind of positive kind of relationships that we have with completion and success.

Like, oh, wow, my dreams are coming true, or I have room to think about my dreams, or I have room to enjoy my material resources, or I'm sharing my harvest with my family and my generation.

My generations to come, you know, and then the swords and the wands of the.

In 9 and 10 in tarot, they're a little bit more dramatic, to say the least.

I'm actually looking at the ten of swords right now.

They're like, more.

Both those cards are systematic.

Yes.

Nine and ten of swords.

Scary looking, intense.

And that's, like, the anxiety and the fear that comes up when you've made it, when you've gotten to an end, when you're, like, trying to decide, like, am I doing the right thing?

Am I a fraud?

Have I used my resources?

Well, I'm at the end of this cycle, and what do I have to show for it?

And can I appreciate what I have to show for it?

So it's like all these things that have to do with, like.

I can't remember why I'm bringing this up actually right now, but, like, all these things to do with, like, you.

Are reflecting on your eight year.

That was when we got here.

And so at the end of the year, I'm able.

Better able to, like, kind of see all that has changed and all that has moved through.

But a lot of the year kind of looked like being in a holding pattern, feeling disappointed, wanting more out of life, and not being able to fully see what was already there.

But then at the end, I was able to see, like, holy shit.

Yeah, I am at a state of completion.

I did, like, reap all of these resources, and I found a foundation in a way that I think is really interesting.

And I think the eight and nine years happening on a personal and a collective level simultaneously really gave me a very intimate, clear view of how those numbers kind of work, I would say.

You know, okay, here's part of what's coming up for me.

First of all, I can so see the transformation you're talking about in your eighth house year.

Even though I wasn't, like, in super close connection with you a lot of the year, we started the year in close ish connection because it.

Wait, LYD was that just.

I know.

I was thinking about that the other day.

It was, like, so many years ago.

I was, like, in bed.

I was like, wait, Lyd was 20 was less than a year ago.

Yeah.

Wild.

So Aaliyah was in my.

My very.

My final cohort of Lyd before I said, I'm done with this forever bi.

Um.

And, well, we've known each other for a long time now.

Like, 2017.

It's almost 10 years.

Yeah.

Either 2017 or 18.

I can't remember when I started Working at shy arts.

But Aaliyah hired me for a job at shy Arts Chicago School, what's it called?

High School for the Arts.

Thank you.

And yeah, I see, like, to me.

To me, what it looked like, even kind of from a distance, is that this was the year you finally laid to rest a lot of shit that you've been working with for a long time.

But by laid to rest.

And I'm bringing this up because I want to connect it to the strength card.

And I think this is relevant not just for you, but for everybody understanding what came before.

The nine that we're closing out was eight.

So 2024 was a collective eight year.

And the strength card, my relationship to it, it's a lot of reminder of shadow work and integration and taking all the parts of yourself and integrating them.

So, yeah, even as the words laid to rest were coming to mind and I kind of saw the eight of swords and the eight of cups, those both depict in Rider Waite Smith, like a journey of leaving behind.

Right.

I kind of saw that.

So there is this final leaving behind, this final laying to rest.

But it's not in a way that actually has anything to do with removing yourself from something.

It has to do with completely integrating.

Yeah, completely integrating and assimilating the parts that up until this point, you weren't available to, you didn't need to, you weren't ready to whatever, accept, kind of.

And then there's a sense of getting away from.

Of letting go, of removing yourself.

That comes from the ultimate just acceptance of.

And that's not always actually how I think of eight.

So that's kind of interesting.

Like eight.

To me, my go to understanding of eight is like divine will, which I guess is also very in the strength card, like this sense that there's a surrender component to it.

Like, once you've surrendered to the ego mind, you get to relax into the flow of divine will, which is very.

Actually Wheel of Fortune.

So now I'm like, okay, was my 8 understanding too 10?

Yeah, but it's all a process, right?

So there's something.

There's like the shadow work integration, like accepting of all the parts of oneself is a part of the process of getting to this divine flow.

And there is a connection, I think, in Divine Flow 8.

But it's specifically about, to me, about the transformation you're talking about of the integration of all the parts of the self.

Oh, and I think, okay, here's where my connection to divine will with eight before is also like all the parts of the self on an individual level, but also all the parts of the self on a tribal, collective, relational level, too.

Of like, my will is a part of the tapestry of divine will.

And so I can't be all of it all of the time, but I can relax into the me, and that puts me in a position I can relax into.

Like, the limitation of form is a human design word, or I would even just say a Saturn word.

Like, the limitation of my form, the limitation of my separateness.

And in relaxing into that, it brings me back to a connection to wholeness, where my individual will gets to be supported by and be a part of this whole, which to me is synonymous with divine will.

So that's some of where I'm coming from in my orientation of like 8 as the predecessor to 9, which we're closing out now.

Well, I guess in an interesting way, if we want to.

Like thinking about.

I was talking about the nines and the tens, but eight through ten in general, I think is about, excuse me, surrender, you know, in the end, because you're building up to something.

And there's things when you're in the process of, like, life and evolving and mastery.

There's things that you carry with you, but there's also.

You have to know when.

What to let go of in that same journey.

And so there's the whole idea of, like, showing up in a certain way with, like, less ego, less attachment, less.

Fewer of the things that you felt like you needed to, to be alive and to exist and to make it.

And realizing that all that you need is like, the trust, really, and, like the faith in the end, that's like.

It's like this building up of things.

And then eight, it's like, okay, so then what can we let go of?

We've built it up.

And so what do we no longer need?

What can we give back?

It's like, it's not just what do we no longer need.

It's like.

It's not just throwing shit away is like, what can we give back to the cycle compost.

Exactly.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, that's like.

And that's the death stuff.

That's.

It's so fun talking about these things.

We can literally, like, like you said, divine will, talking about the strength card.

And strength is a Leo card and Leo connected.

Yeah, like, it's right there.

I forgot.

Yeah, I love it.

Well, like, I think I was starting to feel into.

I wasn't articulating it very well.

I was so glad that you just said 8 through 10.

8, 9 and 10 are all about surrender because I think that was like kind of on the tip of my tongue when I was like, oh, they're both divine will, but one's the shadow work part and one's the little, you know, the full void of the 10, you know, like the full circle.

And so yeah, that just really, that succinct articulation really tied together this thing I was like tweedling around myself of like 8 through 10 is divine will.

Which makes sense to me also because well, the thing I've beenMarch of 2023 was when Saturn entered Pisces.

And to me, so that means that was the first ingress.

I think it might have entered again finally later in 2023 or early 2024.

But either way, 2024, this eight year was like when we were really getting into the Saturn in Pisces lesson, which I think has to do with radical surrender.

Those are the words that I used constantly with Saturn in Pisces was radical surrender.

So interesting that the 8 and 9 year and even the start of this 10 year because Saturn's dipped back into Pisces until like sometime in February I think 2026.

Yeah, they feel correctly overlapped with Saturn in Pisces, like this hardcore lesson of what it really is to surrender and also the, the rewards that we get to reap of true surrender, which is also a very Saturn in Pisces thing.

Okay, yeah, there's structure there.

I mean again going back to the structure, it's Pisces, but Saturn's bringing form to it.

Yeah.

All right, so eight years, big shadow work shit.

How does that lead to a nine year old hermitude?

And how are we seeing that already or not already?

I guess I'm thinking about your personal stuff.

So maybe how are you seeing it already on the precipice for you personally moving into a nine year.

But how did we just experience nine year stuff and hermitude stuff in the collective?

The thing that I think I had been really connected to is like I'll just name also my understanding of the concept of hermit from human design has been very alive in my own process of what the hermit year has been.

And they're totally different systems, but I actually don't think there's very much that doesn't translate from how human design talks about the second line, the hermit and what the major arcana card is and what we all just experienced in this nine year.

So I don't actually think it's a problem that I'm very just consciously and unconsciously informed by hermit according to human design, of which I am one.

But I've been using this word for a few years now, this term home frequency, to describe what I think is happening when we decondition per our human design.

We're like learning to discern, which is a very hermit word both in the tarot and human design system.

We're learning to discern the difference between the core differentiated core truth frequency that runs through our system and the way that that changes when we plug into all these different places via conditioning and via the Maya, via the illusion.

And like, none of that change is bad.

It's all the point, in my opinion, of incarnation, of consciousness, of life, is to experience all the fluctuating ways that consciousness can plug in.

But when it's not getting filtered through the conscious awareness of what is oneself and one's subjectivity and one's separateness in the illusion, then it just gets muddy and confusing.

And that's where like the illusion creates suffering rather than the illusion creating enrichment.

And so in my own personal experience, deconditioning, especially as a second line body, as a hermit body, as a 5:2 for me, it really felt like this visceral sensation of I started to learn what it feels like to be in my own body and what it feels like to express and tap into and attune to myself.

And I started to become familiar with actual, like frequency of truth as it lives in my body.

And now I can feel when that's not the sensation.

I can feel when I'm like collaborating with something outside of me.

And having the discernment to be able to make that distinction is just an incredible fucking tool.

I don't really know exactly where I'm going with this, but that discernment and that distinction of understanding my home frequency and knowing how to get back to and that I can get back to and just even just like having the awareness that I am or am not currently feeling embodied and attuned to my home frequency has been such a significant component of my own process in these last many years of deconditioning.

And I kind of felt like I watched that happen on a larger scale in a lot of the individuals that I was working with in this hermit year.

Like, even me calling it home frequency didn't take off.

Like, I've been saying that for myself for a long time.

But this year I heard people I work with echo it back to me.

Like it took off in my little sphere.

So just this concept of self attunement and the Discernment of what's me and what's the other and what's my truth and what's not has felt like a significant theme that I've witnessed.

I've seen people become more interested in knowing what their home frequency is and even like, embracing just the concept of discernment between self and others and truth and distortion.

My mentor, who has nothing to do with human design at all, but that's the term that she.

She uses that term to the home frequency.

At least that's when I was working with her and more intentional kind of mentorship several years ago, like 2017.

She talked a lot about.

She was.

She was helpful in, like, teaching me about the idea of, like, just knowing yourself well enough to know what is home, what is you, what's yours, and so that you can filter out all the other bullshit and it's not like.

Doesn't necessarily mean that, you know, external information is bad.

Like, which we're, you know, all adults here, you know, there's nuance to it, but it is important to know what's yours that you're carrying and what's the things that you don't have to carry, what isn't yours to carry.

And so, yeah, that whole.

And like, you know, I've.

As a friend and colleague, you've seen me post a lot about, like, stuff about spiritual anarchy as well.

And I think that's kind of like the whole concept of my relationship to spiritual anarchy as well, which is, like, with my autonomy, like, where do I keep.

What is.

Like, what is the energy that I keep going back home to?

What is it that I trust that I can keep referring back to in the midst of so much change, in the midst of relationships with people who have different body types and aura types and goals and ideas in me?

How do we live in this world that's so full of everyone's thoughts and opinions and needs and desires being blasted at us constantly?

What do we keep coming back to?

How do we know what's real?

How do we know trust?

How do we know God?

And that is through ourselves and through our own experience of what it feels like to be the antenna.

The antenna data receptors, data transmitters that we all individually are within our human bodies.

Yeah, I'm like, visualizing the Rider Waite Smith hermit card right now.

And he's like, holding his lantern and he's actually outside of his cave in the image, right?

And so I'm thinking, like, it's not the hermit card, the hermit energy.

The hermit lesson is not about eliminating your Relationship to the outer world and everything that comes with that.

It's about having a specific and distinct and discerning relationship to everything in the outer world.

And I think that discernment piece that we both have talked about here is entirely or most of what that distinction is like.

Knowing that it.

Knowing, letting the outer.

The distraction, the other people's opinions, the conditioning, the programming, the changing the shifting circumstances of even your own life, Letting all of that be the context of your reality rather than some kind of, like, truth that you feel beholden to.

And yeah, the other piece of that card that I think is important in the visualization is that lantern representing the inner light of the self.

And in order to maintain that inner light, there are gonna be moments where you need to be selective in what you're shining that light on.

Even, like, what you're facing, which distractions, which content of your reality you're letting yourself look at, you're letting yourself experience.

And okay, Uranus in Taurus.

So we're also at the tail end of this Uranus in Taurus transit.

And it feels like a distant memory to talk about it this way now.

But in the beginning of that transit, I talked so much about revolution happening through somatic discernment and the body's unwillingness to budge from its capacity being how we evolved and how we radicalized and how revolution worked through our systems with this transit.

So the limitation of form, like I was talking about this feels connected to the hermit year, the nine year happening at the tail end of Uranus in Taurus.

Because I feel like a lot of what I saw in my own system and peers and students of mine, people who are experiencing reality in similar ways to me is like, first the body was like, I'm not doing that anymore.

I'm not resourcing you to work past capacity anymore.

And then mind.

It took a long time for mind to catch up and to stop trying to push beyond capacity, beyond the knowing of the body.

And I kind.

I don't know, like, who knows?

I don't even, like, trust my mind on this, really, Because I'm so fucking hermited right now that my.

My van, like, my little lantern light only shines a little far right now.

Like, I'm so selective about whose life I pay attention to and who I'm talking to and who I'm, like, penetrating with my awareness that I don't feel like I have a good sample size at all, actually.

Like, I don't know what is happening on a greater scale.

I don't know what I don't know what's happening in consensus reality, but in the spheres of people I've been working with, I feel like I've seen more and more radical surrender to limitation of capacity, limitation of form more and more.

Like the power of FOMO is weakening, and people are more and more ready to be extremely selective and discerning about where they put their attention and energy, which feels hermody.

You saying.

So, yeah, there's a lot there.

You saying some of the things that made me think of the moon in tarot as well, which is also a nine card because it's number 18.

But, yeah, there's a few things.

I want to get to that in a second.

But, yeah, the hermit is a really powerful card because it is about the need to go within in order to bring something new to your external circumstances ultimately.

And the way that my tarot teacher, Lindsay Mack, the way that they teach, at least at some point in time, the way they taught the hermit, was kind of thinking about the hermit as like, kind of when you're pulling back on a bow and arrow, and it's like before you release the arrow, like, that kind of focus and that drive and the intention and the narrowing on a target that comes with, like, kind of holding back the bow until you let go of the arrow.

And so there's like, it's discernment, it's focus, it's intentionality, it's strength.

I mean, it is strength, too.

It's physical strength.

Being able to, like, hold the tightness and the tautness and just like, kind of letting.

It's having tunnel vision.

And you saying the bit about the lantern, which, of course the lantern is always in my mind, but, like, how the light has, like, a very narrow kind of lights, a very narrow pathway for you, that's like the moon.

I mean, that's like.

That's like the lesson of the moon itself, too.

It's like each step that you take, you have to surrender to what you know in that moment, which you can see in that moment, which is minimal because you're only guided by moonlight.

You're not guided by the light of the sun.

So.

And the moonlight is powerful.

Like, as someone who was born and raised in Chicago, and then I did van life thing for a while, but I was like, I was not a nature person.

I was not a camping person.

I didn't.

I was used to the busyness of urban life.

But when I went out and started traveling in my van, I was in, like, the desert and New Mexico and stuff.

And I would be out on a full moon night.

I'd be like, holy shit, this is bright as fuck.

Actually, the moon, like, I mean, it's not the same kind of illumination as daytime, but it offers a lot of information.

But that it's information that requires you to like, use your intuition, use your other senses in addition to.

To sight.

Like, you rely less upon your visual sight.

And so like all these things, like, this is all this information that's like keeping like tearing anything away from you that keeps your focus from being clear or that keeps you from being with yourself ultimately.

Like, even if the way forward isn't perfectly clear, like in a car, like the moon, um, your relationship with yourself has to be clear.

Relationship where your body is, has to be clear.

At the very least, if you can't see the rest of what's in front of you.

So just putting one step in front of the other is enough for a nine year, is enough for that kind of energy, because that's all you've got.

Dude.

The, the benefit of like knowing all the cysticums is incredible.

But also in this moment, I'm like, which one?

Like, they're like, they're all fighting in my head and it's like in my own awareness, it's like there's this beautiful symphony of clarity because I just am seeing them all and I'm like, okay, but how do I words any of them?

I was like, 100%.

Yeah.

When you were talking about like, holy shit, the moonlight that's bright.

I just like got this like.

I started having this visceral image of like the fucking white round full moon and the black dark sky.

And I was thinking about how the moon is not actually a luminary.

Like, physically it's a rock that reflects the light of the sun and how it's like this specific concentrated version of sunlight.

That's what was coming through.

And then right after that, you started talking about like, you need to like, use your intuition.

Like it's a.

It's a different relationship to sunlight.

And then.

Wait, Okay, then I started remembering.

This is the second time I've heard you talk about the kind of like, arrow of the Hermit and like the specificity of that.

And then I started thinking about how early on the call you were like, noting how you are in this moment as like you're actively choosing presence.

Like, it's not easy, but you're doing it.

You're like, honing your attention.

You're like, I can be in my body.

I can connect to God.

I can do it, you know, and like that's.

Yeah, all of that stuff started to kind of wrap together for me.

And I've been talking about and thinking about this a lot lately because I'm going to connect it to some 2027 stuff here.

There was a lot in the last era from the 1600s up through 2026, the Cross of planning and cross of Maya era that's been about building something that has longevity.

And so there was like a lot that required us to literally required us to dissociate from the present, required us to think long term, to compromise certain aspects of self because we were trying to understand how each of us could fit into this economy of the whole, that could build something great and lasting and excessive, which we did.

Good job, humanity.

We've done it.

And now we're at this key change, this shift change where the energy is for the collective and in a really long term scale way.

Like we're talking about the next 400 and some years.

So it doesn't like shift in a dime, but we're all already feeling the shift.

We're moving away from a tribal and collective what are we building together over time thing.

And we're moving towards individual awakening.

And there's a lot of keys in the new era that have to do with presence and penetration to the truth in the now.

And so I've been just witnessing and seeing and talking so much about presence as a portal.

And I've been talking about, when I think about the next era of holding space for one another.

I'm trying not to get too into the weeds about it.

But there's a lot in the last era of space holding that was like exchanging skill sets and exchanging mastery.

Like I've learned this over time.

And so I'll trade you this, you trade me that money, whatever.

So like readers, right?

Like this is my skill set.

I know astrology, I know tarot, whatever.

And I'm like, maybe this is getting into my next year being a hierophant year.

I feel some hierophant themes here.

Like I'm giving you my mastery for you to then take and be guided by.

That's not the energy we're moving into in the next era.

The words I've been using are like, hold the frequency.

So like the ability that any of us have to penetrate the moment and despite all the distractions to be able to filter all of that in the now moment to what is here for me now and what's the most honest way that I can be present with what's here for me now, there's an attunement happening there.

For me, it feels like attuning to my home frequency, but it's like grid work, because when I hold that frequency in myself, it's shifting the shared frequency and bringing someone else more to that frequency.

And then.

And that's like, this is all.

Whatever.

This is my subjective shit.

I'm watching.

But, like, I've thought about.

I think it's possible that one of my next offerings is going to be about this, like, next era.

Space holding and kind of like helping all of us, whoever is interested in, like, seeing, like, divesting from an overemphasis on how we've bargained around skill set and role and exchange and shifting into priorities like presence and honesty and authenticity as how we show up in integrity and how we serve ourselves and how we serve each other.

And so, yeah, just like, all that stuff was kind of swirling for me, but this piece that you've brought in for me now twice, that's starting to really set in for me of, like, the precision of.

And it's Virgo, right?

Hermit's Virgo.

So again, that, like, precision of the detail of the minutiae of the now and this, like, ability to be honest.

And it's like the honesty piece is almost misleading because it's not about lying.

It's not about conscious lying.

Here's how the eight sets us up for the nine.

It's about, like, I am able to be with all the parts of my experience and I've done this alchemy, this shadow work, this, like, acceptance, integration, that when shit comes up in the moment, I'm not compulsively reacting in a way that's trying to shut it down or prove something else.

That's the kind of dishonesty I'm talking about.

Yeah, you talk about integrity.

Yeah, Integrity, integration.

Yeah.

Like, honesty with the self.

Like, connection to the truth of the moment.

Yeah, I think integrity, like, as a value.

I mean, this is also you for hierophant stuff for your neck this year.

The hyphen to me is about value systems and, like, the declaration of those value systems and the maintaining of it.

Oh, shit, hold on.

Oh, that's so helpful.

Okay, what was I saying right before that?

Integrity.

Integrity.

So, yeah, integrity is like.

Is.

Integration is.

It's integral.

It's like integrity is wholeness.

It's not just about, like, yeah, being honest and, like, just telling the truth, you know, all the time.

Like, it's about, like, having a consistent, consistent framework and value system that is, I mean for our, for our times, it has to be adaptable, it has to be relational while also standing on its own as its own kind of foundational unit at the same time.

And so that drive, I feel like parts of what you're talking about is about wholeness.

It's about a drive towards wholeness.

And I just.

What I see is this like all these individual lights, you know, that whose spheres of influence just like kind of expand and grow and grow.

But it comes from these individual nodes that are holding that space.

And that's what creates the grid of consciousness and connection.

That happens like globally, universally, but it comes from us being able to choose and root within our own, as you say, home frequency, in our own value and our own integrity.

Hell yeah.

Something that you just said too helps me see.

I don't know if I'll even be able to recall the thing, but I had a moment listening just now where I was like starting to see how the nine and the ways we're talking about it and the Hermit leads to, to Wheel of Fortune.

Have you ever heard of.

I think her name is like the Brinth.

I think her actual name is Anna, but her online name is the Brinth.

She's just a tarot person who I like stumbled upon her a few years ago when I was doing daily polls and she just has like a shit ton of 3 minute videos talking about the cards because she went on, she.

I don't know if she might still even do it, but she would pull a card a day and talk about it for three minutes and put it on YouTube.

And I really like the way she talks about them.

So I would like for my daily polls sometimes I would listen to her 3 minute 1.

Anyways, I hadn't listened for a while, but I this morning was like, let me see what she has to say about Wheel of Fortune.

See if it inspires anything.

And I wrote down part of what she said, which is we are part of a very large multi pieced universe and we are not the center of that universe.

There are lots of things happening that are not in relationship to us.

Everything that happens to you is not your cause.

And I'm paraphrasing now, it doesn't mean you don't have a response, but you may not be responsible.

And she kind of talked about it as being a challenge to the law of attraction and being in this role of cooperation with the universe.

And so I was starting to feel into that when you were talking about all these individual nodes it was giving me this connection to the grid and there's this duality of.

It feels kind of like the Aries Libra axis, your nodes, like this duality of self responsibility.

But knowing that we're in this reactive world where everything each of us does impacts one another and the.

Is it Newton's law?

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

So, yeah, I started feeling into that.

And yeah, I'm curious what that brings up for you, but I feel like that sentiment of holding the frequency, the self attunement, the home frequency of hermit, moving into this understanding of each of us as a part of the whole.

And the Wheel of Samskara and Karma and Wheel of Fortune, there's something in that that's pinging me right now.

Yeah, I mean, there's a few things and I'm not sure if this is a direct response to the last thing you just said, but one thing I think a lot about in general is this polarity.

And I'm really fascinated by the wisdom of polarity in the zodiac and astrology.

And it's one of my favorite things to kind of focus on the relational quality.

And I think it's really fitting that 2025 was a hermit year while we're in a Pisces North Node year too, because I think I haven't fully articulated how I feel about this.

Or maybe I have in the past.

I've written some things about it.

But I find Virgo, which rules the hermit as a sign, really interesting in terms of thinking about embodiment and how we connect to spirit inherently through our body and how our bodies are inherently spiritual as well.

And like I said, I haven't fully articulate it, what I see about this.

But Virgo is about the intention, but it's also.

It's about purity in general and not like in a puritanical kind of sense, like a virgin kind of sense of like, you know, sexual kind of energy.

But it can't be about sexual energy.

But the purity unto oneself is like that self knowing, that self trust, the willingness to prioritize the things that need to be done for your vessel to operate at its most holy and sacred.

That's what I think about when Virgo is at its best.

And as I've mentioned, I'm a Christ consciousness scholar and I have relationship with Jesus, Yeshua.

Yeshua is a Hebrew pronunciation of Jesus, but Yeshua in my tradition, Yeshua was a Virgo and he like.

And I think that there's something really fitting for like the idea of like Us working through matters of the spiritual through the body.

That's like an inherent aspect of Virgo.

That's an inherent aspect of the hermit energy.

And I think it's fitting that in a Pisces North Node year, we're being asked to return over and over and over again to our bodies, to this center, to the center, to the one vessel that we are entirely 1000, 100% accountable for.

It's our sole responsibility is this vessel in the end.

And so how do we, like, kind of hold this big picture spiritual, this.

How do we literally hold the universe within our physical containers, within our physical bodies and the intentionality and the.

Again, the focus and the discernment that kind of comes through with that.

And how can we stay focused without tuning out of everything completely?

Can we stay with everything that we need to hold and leave the rest?

How do we keep showing up through this kind of spiritual muck, through all this data information that we have to.

That we have to move through?

How do we keep staying in this body through all this alchemy, through all this change?

That's the thing that I was thinking about when you started talking about.

Yeah.

I can't remember what you're Virgo.

Personal stuff.

Yeah.

Just so feeling into our own nodal placements and which have been the most recent placements.

Like, I was.

You're talking about your reverence for polarity.

I was like, that's some South Node in Libra shit.

Yep.

And also what you just described, too.

Like, I was just kidding.

I was feeling your cap rising was so present.

Like, the body's the only place that we're always alone.

Like, it's like when we talk about anchoring to self, like, literally, the body is.

How to do that, because nobody else will ever be in your body, ever.

That's, like, constant in this life.

So there's something very simple but, like, profound about that coming through.

And then I started feeling into how the North Node in Aries, which is your natal nodes, but also was the nodal transit right before this one.

Set us up for this.

Set us up for, like.

Yeah, it was like the medicine of self focus that the North Node in Aries brought in was a prerequisite to the hermit year and to this next iteration of being able to filter the spiritual experience through the body.

That feels like Pisces Virgo.

Yeah.

How do we deal with everything?

I mean, it's just so funny how the notes work that way.

To going from Aries to Pisces, like, oh, here's a singular Me.

But we're jumping right back into the soup.

We're back in the soup now.

Well, and I haven't felt that much yet into the Leo Aquarius nodes, which, let me see.

I tried to take some notes on stuff in case it came up July 26th.

So we spend a little more than half of 2026 still in the.

The Pisces Virgo nodes.

It's such a long nodal transit.

It feels really long, doesn't it?

I mean, it's probably the same amount of time, but it feels longer.

It feels longer.

And I think in some ways it actually kind of is because the eclipses linger at both the beginning and post ends.

So we're in Pisces Virgo eclipses for longer than we normally are.

Yeah.

But then we'll end the year with Virgo or, sorry, Leo Aquarius nodes, which.

Those were where the nodes were, I think, when I first got into astrology.

So I'm having my astrologer nodal opposition when we get to Leo Aquarius.

Yeah, they're kind of.

It'll be my first time experiencing the nodal transit axis a second time.

So I'm kind of excited about that.

Consciously same.

Yeah.

And I haven't felt that into it yet, but I'm having right now.

I'm like, ooh, I wonder if that would be an interesting way to explore Wheel of Fortune too.

Because this, you know, for me, Wheel of Fortune, I think prior to the investigation I've been doing just in the last couple weeks was much more.

It felt.

Well, it's Jupiter, so let's name that.

That's the astrological association.

It felt very Paschean to me.

It felt very like, que sera, sera.

What will be will be like spin the wheel and find a way to deal with it and it's all gonna be okay.

Which I don't think any of that's not true.

It feels very Jupiterian.

It feels very.

My SAG Rising, my Pisces North Node.

But there's this other theme of it kind of coming in that is this grid work piece, like the connectivity piece.

And the way that we collaborate with collective reality and the way that we even you bringing in the Gregorian calendar and that piece of.

Okay, but the consensus mind is about this.

So it is a part of our circumstances.

So can we collaborate with even that?

Yeah.

There's this theme of divine collaboration, which is includes not only being in collaboration with spirit and karma, but also includes being in collaboration with the way that spirit and karma manifests in physical reality, including what we might label as like, distortion or wrong.

Like, can we be in collaboration with even that?

And so the like, individual in collaboration with the whole theme of Leo Aquarius Nodes is starting to.

I'm just like, okay, that feels like maybe an entryway for me into feeling into Wheel of fortune in 2026.

And like, okay, let's just go ahead and name too.

Shit's gonna.

I think shit might get kind of crazy in 2026.

I haven't listened.

It seems apparent.

Yeah, I mean, how could it not?

How could it not?

But like, okay, I haven't listened to any astro forecasts yet, but someone in my Patreon yesterday shout out Lex was bringing up how they've been really inundating themselves with them and that they're sounding pretty doomy.

And it actually kind of inspired me to be like, I think I might want to tune in to see what the astrologers are saying.

And I think maybe I will end up doing something along the lines of a forecast.

I originally didn't think I would because I just am disconnected from that way of thinking lately.

But this is maybe my way of embracing consensus mind reality.

And like, being more in collaboration is I'm like, I want to know what people are saying and I want to like, assimilate that and then come back and share from my own vantage point with the discernment of all my hermit alchemy that's taken place, to filter through it, to guide it, like share as myself.

But all of that to say, like, I think consensus reality is disintegrating.

Part of the.

The quality of the new ERA per the 2027 Global Cycle Shift study is like, individual awakening means less of a reliance on what consensus reality is saying.

So it does seem to be a common experience lately to divest from what consensus reality has been saying.

Not put so much of my attention there, right?

Not shine my lantern light directly there.

But I wonder if part of the quality of Wheel of Fortune is coming back to it, but with this different discernment.

Now, hold on.

There's something I keep trying to get to that I keep getting away from, which is I think we're already in a civil war.

And there's this weird dichotomy of I do feel increasingly somehow separate from everything that's happening.

And somehow the peace increases in my life even though the peace in the world seems to be decreasing.

And there's something confusing about that and disorienting about that.

But I also don't think that's wrong and I don't Think that's going to stop being the case?

I think that's going to continue being the case more and more.

And my understanding of Wheel of Fortune lately also has to do a bit with trying to be peaceful and relaxed and like, oh, there was this other quote I heard someone say about it that felt it was something about like, those who can command without flinching.

I think that might have come up actually when I was listening to a Chinese zodiac thing.

But that phrase like commanding without flinching, the ability to be with whatever's here, even fucking civil war, even fucking fascism, and not flinch even then, and know that even that's God, even that's part of it, and like remain in some state of discernment even then.

I mean, that's where like the real kind of revolution stuff kind of comes out when you're like, yeah, even war and this destruction, all this fucked up stuff that we're seeing from this current administration of that is a part of God and a part of God's curiosity.

A part of our own curiosity too.

I mean, like, part of God's curiosity.

That's so good.

Like, what is this?

What does this wake up for people?

And so if we're thinking about it as a 10 one year, so it's Wheel of Fortune, so it's also a Magician year.

It's like, what?

And the magician is beautiful because the magician has all the resources that they need available to them right there.

They have.

All the suits are available at their altar.

They've got their wand, they're conjuring, they're making use of what's available to them in order to create new circumstances for themselves.

And I think that's also like an important kind of like foundational element to the Wheel of Fortune.

There's things happening around you.

What are you going to use in your environment to get you to where you need to go to get you to your values, to get you deeper to love and the things that matter most to you.

Ultimately, the Wheel of Fortune is just about trust.

And that's why I brought up that stuff right at the very beginning where I was talking about.

The Hermit Year prepares us for the trust that's necessary for being in a world where we don't really know how things are going to be from one day to the other.

That's the other element of Wheel of Fortune.

It's like a coin flip to a certain extent.

It's a wheel that's rolling and we don't have control over what direction or where it's going.

And so Pisces North Node.

Yep, exactly.

And so how can we keep.

Yeah, we have to.

The.

The nine year was the preparation for the choices that we have to make on the fly for the trust that we're gonna have to have in the moment when we're in situational kind of experiences where you're like, do I turn left or do I turn right?

You know, you have to have in the body, you might say, to be the vessel, to discern the cacophony of.

The distractions, to be the compass, like in every day.

And I think part of what my.

Some of the disassociative and avoidance stuff that's.

That's come up in my personal life is like a certain amount of like grief around the fact that this isn't this life, like being embodied during this time.

It's not easy mode.

Like we got a hint of like the 90s of like what it would be like if we all just went all in on the consumerism and kind of believed there was a middle class that existed for at least a few years.

You know what I mean?

But this idea that you just show up on a path and it's just kind of done for you because choices are.

You make certain choices that are acceptable and that conform.

That time is over.

Now we need to make individual choices for our liberation that are made without conformity.

Not because someone's telling us that we're supposed to do it.

Not because we feel shamed or guilted into it.

Not because we feel a family obligation or a work obligation.

Like, what are you doing to keep yourself alive?

Because your work might be bullshit, your family might be full of shit.

So what are you gonna do?

What are you gonna.

Like when everything else is falling away, which it is, what are you gonna depend on?

And I think it's gonna be a hard wake up call for so many people because it's all falling apart because it needs to be.

Yeah, so good.

Sometimes I have.

It's happening again.

So many things.

Mars is here.

Your Scorpio, your Mars, your Saturn, your Maleficent get all worked up is here.

And yeah, I feel like you were really channeling the Mars Saturn combo just now.

And I started thinking about Saturn in Aries.

And I started thinking about a lot of what you and I have been talking about when we have connected in the last couple years just about like spiritual anarchy and like radical fucking self responsibility.

But then the word that I felt like was really encompassing.

What you were saying is intention.

Like I was feeling into the concept of intention, but In a way more powerful, potent way than I think most people use the word intention.

I'm not talking about like setting a fucking intention for the visual.

It's like every fucking action, everyone.

Do you know the intention behind it exactly?

Are you being honest about the intention behind it?

Like, there's this other thing coming to mind.

There's this episode of Lab Partners that we meet I recorded with two other people, Maru and Arundira, called Trust is the resource.

And my intention going into that, that's the soft use of the word intention going into that convo was like I wanted to like demystify and shatter projections that I think some people have around.

Like what fucking peace actually is and what like true self prioritization and true healing actually is.

And it was like wanting to come through in a conversation about resource and there.

Anyway, sorry, getting away from it.

But the thing I'm wanting, the like sensation I'm recalling from that conversation that's feeling present again here is there's this moment where I remember being like, do you even know the deals you're making right now?

It's like, I can't.

I just got back from Ohio.

Like there were moments when I consciously decided, okay, I'll play the game a little bit, I'll get under the spell a little bit.

But doing that with awareness and intention is not a drain.

It's not eating me alive.

And it doesn't make me angry at anyone.

But when I would do that in the past, before this like long ass process of deconditioning, it didn't feel free.

So freedom is also the difference here.

Like, are you doing it with freedom?

Are you doing it remembering that you are God and that God's curiosity is living through this bond you're making in this moment?

Or are you doing it compulsively out of a lack of intention?

So, yeah, just like, yeah, intention.

I want a word for even more strongly than intention, but I know, right?

It's a lot of what we've been talking about.

This precision, this aim, integrity, intention, all of that rolled in, that feels very Saturn in Aries, which also, you know, Saturn's the reckoner.

Saturn's like, no, we're gonna actually look and we're gonna face all the fucking truth.

The non negotiable truth.

And in Aries, Aries is the most localized, precise, aimed sign of the zodiac.

It's like the.

I always think of the zodiac as like a spiral.

Things get looser and more globalized as you move through it.

And Aries is one right which here's 10 maybe being one again here.

It's like there's precision, us, Aries, we don't have a fucking filter in which this polarity, duality.

Yeah, we have psychological issues via our conditioning too.

But at its distilled essence, Aries is like, it's right here to the point.

It can't be dishonest.

I talk a lot about how people see Aries as courageous, but my lived experience of it is I actually am just extremely impatient because if something feels off to me, I don't have the Tauresian, Capricornian endurance to work through it in any slow kind of way.

There's an immediacy to it.

So there's this immediacy to the present moment, what's cutting through.

And I don't think we need to always act on that.

The other parts of the zodiac are part of this assimilation too.

But Saturn in Aries is like asking us, forcing us in Saturn's way, to learn to penetrate the now moment with intention and learn to be radically honest with ourselves about what's actually here for us in this moment.

Yeah, and that'll look different.

I feel like 2026, we're just.

I think that it'll be a lot of different cycles that we move through.

Like just thinking about the Wheel of Fortune, like, I think that will look back at 2026 and be like, wow, a lot of different vibes are happening at once or shifting back and forth or cycling through them throughout the year.

I do think there will be a lot of martial kind of energy, like you're saying, because we've got the generationals like Saturn and Neptune kind of more firmly planting in Aries during this time after being in and out in 2025.

I mean, we've already seen it with like, you know, Trump in the Venezuela invasion this weekend.

It's.

But I also think, like.

So I think it's reasonable for people to feel intense or fearful or whatever about the world that we are in.

And because, you know, it's a lot of fucked up things happening.

This is acknowledged that.

And also I am seeing this as a time in which people individually wake up to their own power and just get tired of living, tired of outsourcing their power to other people, tired of living compulsively tired of like being told that what you desire isn't right and that you have to shape yourself and to be something else that doesn't fit you at all because you have to conform to a worker society, to someone else's dream.

Like this is the time to like, if you feel that creative spark or that inspiration, this is the universe saying this is your chance.

And not to say you're not going to have any other chance, but this is, this is opportune moment, Wheel of Fortune Magician, for you to strike, strike out, make the choice, do the thing.

And the other thing that I found repeatedly with this stuff and again, this will happen again with the Wheel of Fortune here is when you put in the effort, you don't have to make it perfect or make it right.

It doesn't have to be.

It could be sloppy, it could be messy, it could be a little half assed.

But putting in that energy, there is usually some sort of response in the end.

There's some sort of support.

There's something that is going to.

You're shaping your environment with every choice you make, even with the small ones.

And we're gonna see that even more intensely this year with this Wheel of Fortune Magician year.

Because it has to like the.

There's this.

We're being, I think this year we're going to be reminded more than ever of our power, of our creative power and how to like actually use it instead of letting it fester, instead of just like consuming and just being told what we're meant to feel or think like.

This is a time in which we initiate, initiate.

I said that to a manifester.

But this is the time that we do our best to kind of wake up to what's already alive within us and act on it.

Is what I would say, no matter what your aura type is, I'm getting.

The Wheel of Fortune in.

This year is about kind of transcending the binary of.

Oh, this is interesting.

Okay.

Of surrender versus agency, which I talk about that binary a lot and it feels very Pisces Virgo as well.

Polarity, which is also a quality of the first half of this year.

But kind of transcending that binary, integrating that binary and victim consciousness.

And are we victim to this period of time that we're alive?

Are we victim to the violence and the oppression and the war and the fascism in the world?

Like, yes and no.

Like we're integrating across that binary with Wheel of Fortune and the words that were coming through.

Hearing you deliver that beautiful sermon just now is like, it's not that it's not about the world and the circumstances, it's just that it's more about how you meet the world and the circumstances in the now.

Yeah, exactly.

And are you ready to kind of show up with it?

I don't know, my old roommate made this poster of an Adrienne Maree Brown quote that's across from me that I've been looking at as we're talking.

And it's what we pay attention to, grows.

And so if we want a world that is safe to live in, that is full of resources and nourishment and creativity and joy and pleasure, then what are we doing to activate that in our lives?

What are we doing to nurture that in our lives?

If we aren't taking again, Capricorn Rising, if we aren't taking responsibility for how that stuff shows up in our life, it's not just going to show up magically.

And that's the thing we need to, I think the collective and what we will as individuals will recognize and experience this year.

Like, choose it.

Choose it.

I keep thinking about the vibe and the lessons and the alchemy that happened when the nodes were in Taurus, Scorpio, which is a little bit ago now, it was south node in Scorpio, North Node in Taurus.

And I remember there was a shift that happened where people started to realize that it was not productive to shame people into having miserable lives.

Like, it used to be more popular to.

You're not allowed to post, like, your yummy meal or your cute outfit or your night out on the town with friends on Instagram, when horrible things are happening in the world.

And I feel like the nodal calibration of South Node and Scorpio, North Node in Taurus, when we had it a few years back, it was like, no, okay, we can let go of our brooding a little bit and embrace joy and pleasure and ease.

North Node and Taurus.

And now I'm thinking about North Node in Aquarius, South Node in Leo, which is coming, is the square to that.

And when we imagine what north node in Aquarius might be, the north node is like, things are gonna get real loud.

There's gonna be a too muchness there that's coming in to recalibrate us.

And when I think about what's too much Aquarius, it's too much awareness on the collective reality.

So, like, that shit's going to be really loud in 2026.

So the news cycles are going to be intense.

Like, the collective.

I don't even know what to call it.

I feel like all the words that I could use make it sound like I don't care about it, like, are minimizing it.

I don't know.

I don't know what to call it.

The collective happenings.

The collective Shadow work.

Yeah.

Manifesting in the physical reality.

Like, it's going to be very loud and it's going to test that nodal calibration from Scorpio and Taurus, which is like, we can still have peace, we can still have joy, we can still have ease.

And the alchemy of Scorpio, the ability to compost that shit, be with the dark and the depth and compost it is still available to us.

But even then, we can still have peace, we can still have ease, we can still have harmony.

Yeah.

That all feels like Wheel of Fortune this year.

Yeah.

Oh, and isn't Wheel of Fortune.

Isn't that.

Yeah.

The wheel in the traditional image has the fixed signs.

Right.

I think it has the animals that represent each of the fixed signs on it.

For sure.

In the world.

That's true.

In the world.

Oh, the world.

You're right.

I don't have my rider waite in front of me.

I'm blanking on what the images are because I have.

Oh, it does.

It still has the Wheel of Fortune in the four corners of the card.

Okay, that's what I thought.

Yeah.

And that has the Sphinx, of course.

Yeah, yes, yes.

And then it has Sphinx and the eagle and all that stuff.

Yeah, Sphinx and the direction, the tarot.

Of the holy spectrum, which is the deck I have in front of me.

It has just.

It has the elements on the wheel and I keep thinking about, like the triangle symbols of the elements on the wheel and I keep thinking.

I wasn't sure where I could insert this.

And I don't have any kind of commentary necessarily on this, but one of my favorite depictions of the Wheel of Fortune is in the Morgan Greer deck.

And it's like a hand that's kind of cranking a wheel, like an old timey kind of wheel.

And it's like a kind of royalty sitting on top of the wheel.

It's like a king and queen sitting on top of the wheel, kind of toasting and then.

But on the.

The Morgan Greer is a very funny deck.

But on the side, kind of like at the bottom corner of the deck, there's someone whose face you can't see who's falling off the wheel.

And they're actually pulling on the dress of the queen.

And so she kind of looks behind, she has her glass, she's holding her glass up and cheers with her king, but she's looking behind her because she feels a tug on her dress because someone.

Someone is going down, taking her with them.

So that, to me, that kind of feels like Our interconnectedness, but it also is just showing, like, the wheel changes and it shifts necessarily.

And so we have to be prepared and like, not too in our ego, which is also, I guess, Aquarius, Leo polarity.

Not too in our ego when we're in our bag, when things are going well.

And that's something I think about a lot.

Like, one of my friends is a teacher, Sonia Estelle, and she does these really cool teachings about quantum energetics and consciousness.

And one of the things that she teaches is like, don't get too, like, if you're in the work of quote, unquote, manifestation or shaping your reality through your consciousness, she has like, a warning against being like, ah.

When you see, like a result that you prefer being like, ah, I did it.

Like, I finally got it right.

This time the universe is going to be like, well, you sure?

Let's keep seeing.

Let's keep testing it.

Just.

It's more of just about like kind of just again, this, like, living with it, like returning back to yourself.

I do like that you brought up the home frequency thing.

Like, what is.

What is home?

What is real?

What's quote, unquote, natural?

And of course, that's relative.

Of course.

How do you keep coming back?

What's organic.

Yeah, thank you.

How do you keep coming back to that without.

Yeah.

Making it about yourself, making it about you doing something right.

Quote unquote.

I think that's the other thing we're going to learn too this year is like, there's no quote, unquote, right way to do things.

Like, it's neutral ultimately in the eyes of the universe.

Hopefully we learn it this year and.

Hopefully we learn it.

I hope we learn it.

I feel like it's all I've been saying.

I'm really closer and closer.

I love the connection to the reminder that the 10 of the wheel of Fortune reduces to the magician, because it really does feel like the way that the magician has command feels like the Wheel of Fortune is like, I'm so confident in my command that I'm like, put me on the wheel, baby, and see.

Spin it.

Like, it's like the next level evolution of command.

It's like, yeah, I'm command.

I'm.

I am in command.

And I am not in command.

But the part of me that's not in command is the part of me that's limited as a human, but I'm also God.

So I'm also the part that's in command that the one.

So it's all the same, baby.

It's all gravy, baby.

I also started feeling into this year like that quote ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

I was like starting to think into Wheel of Fortune is like ask not what you can do about the karma, but what the karma can do for you and what the karma can do about you.

That's good.

Yeah.

And okay, there's this other little thing that's been coming up lately that kind of feels wheel of fortuny too of you know that quote from like middle school dances, leave room for Jesus.

I've been thinking about that a lot and saying that a lot.

That's like somatics are like so the mind can never comprehend fully.

Like the mind is always gonna give us a limited orientation to what's happening and what could be happening and what is going to happen.

And so that preference thing you mentioned of like it's okay, it's cool to have preferences, but trust that your preferences are like one of the ingredients and qualities in your co creation with reality.

And preferences inherently are gonna come through the limitation of duality.

So I want this, therefore I don't want that.

And like staying in alignment with your preferences might be a way for you to maintain home frequency, to maintain what's organic, for you to trust your body's wisdom to move you forward.

But when the preferences, when attachment starts to come online to the preferences, you're gonna get locked in.

You're not leaving room for Jesus, you're not leaving room for spirit to come in and inform how you're going to move towards your preference.

And I've also been talking a lot in the last like years year about the.

I don't even actually know if it's true when I say I've been talking a lot.

Sometimes it means I've been feeling into it.

And I said it once and I just assume I've been vocalizing about it forever but I've been like exploring this sensation of my body kind of like knowing what would feel good and then my mind storying onto that and then when it doesn't start to look like I'm moving in the directions of my mind's comprehension of what my body knows would feel good.

My mind starts to see it as like failure or I'll be like, oh, I must not be doing it right, I have to change course.

And like self doubt comes in and all these distractions but if you can focus, this is Saturn in Aries.

Again, intention, like the specificity of the hermit's arrow like, if you can focus on the sensation you want to experience and then let the like stories and narratives about what that actually will look like in the 3D reality of your life be held more loosely.

And I think, like, to me, this is part of what signature and human design does, right?

So, like, you attuning to satisfaction, me attuning to peace leaves a lot of room for Jesus to come and show us how and what next.

And that's not failed me thus far.

I'm in, like, year six of a pretty intense fucking trust.

Fall into that.

And I think that's part of why I feel like I can look ahead to the disarray, the chaos that might be coming.

And I'm like, okay, I know how to handle that.

I can command without flinching, perhaps 100%.

I think that's like one of the last things I would like to share about Wheel of Fortune.

Thing is like, it's like I'm someone that I'm a bit of a control freak.

And I love knowing shit.

I love having information.

I'm a 1 3.

I love Capricorn Rising, ruled by Saturn and Sag.

A control freak that loves knowing shit.

A hundred percent.

Yep, to me, to a T. And there's times in the last year where I've had to remind myself, or at least through the experience of, like, grief and loss and like, change and like, you know, even like, kind of re understanding, like coming up with a new understanding of my spiritual beliefs and my spiritual values.

A thing that has actually been a relief is like, not having to know everything.

Even though there's a part of me that, like, has this desire to just have in this information be fed to me all the time.

At the end of the day, it's also such a blessing to not have to fucking hold everything.

I'm not God.

I am God, but I'm not consciously aware of all the things that God is.

And thank God I don't have to.

More often than not, you're the dude flailing off the wheel and not the queen cheersing.

Exactly.

And let me not have that responsibility of everything.

Like, I'm.

I surrender to that too.

Like, I have my little sphere, my little table, my altar, like I have in the magician.

And I'll let God do the rest because that is a blessing to not have to be responsible for everything.

And so I'll do what I can with what I have in front of me as we were talking before to bring it all back.

And so what I want to take away from this year is Excitement, curiosity, focus.

And opportunity.

Like opportunity, of course, is going to be really big too.

Yeah, I'm ready for it.

I don't know.

I'm ready.

You're only responsible for the little light in your lantern and keeping it glowing.

100.

Yeah.

Yeah.

As it spins around and around this crazy wheel.

Yes.

Beautiful.

Oh, my God.

This was so fun.

Thank you so much.

This conversation was such like a hermit wheel of fortune thing too, because I feel like.

Yeah, I had no idea.

I was like, I didn't know what was going to happen.

No.

Okay.

Out of curiosity for myself, because I've been wondering this the last few days as I've been kind of digging into numerology and tarot of the year stuff.

What do you bring into your.

Out of curiosity for myself, but also because I want people to hear you talk about your year ahead readings.

What do you bring into those?

Are you looking at people's numerology, tarot correspondences?

Thank you for asking that.

So, yeah.

Do you.

I've been really enjoying doing tarot year ahead readings and I do ask for people's birth data and it's very kind of situational how much I depend on that and think about that.

I do typically calculate people's number for the year, so their card for the year, and I'll let them know that and I'll give that information to them in the context of the collective card or cards for the year.

But mostly what I do in the tarot year ahead readings, I pull a card for each month of the year.

And I think it's what I enjoy the most about the year ahead reading is that it's just a good old fashioned channeling.

Like I just sit there, look at the card and I like, listen to.

I mean, how do I explain what.

I spin the wheel.

I spin the wheel, I'm listening to the energetics, I'm listening to the energy of the person in front of me, their guides, what God has to share with me, what the archetypes have to share with me.

And I just kind of riff for like an hour and a half, basically.

It's not always that long.

Sometimes it's just a little over an hour.

But it's a month by month card pool where we kind of talk about the themes of the card and things that might come up.

It can be very, very specific at times.

Sometimes there's like specific phrases or actions or things that are going to be coming up that get mentioned.

Other times it's just kind of just general overall themes or here's what to look out for.

But I found them to be a really kind of potent way to kind of look at each month of the year and kind of tell like a narrative of what you can expect and where growth might come up.

But most of all, like I said, I find them to be very fun channeling sessions and I've been very excited to get feedback from people about what's been coming through because I've had people, more than one person, tell me, like literally word for word, the thing that you said was going to happen, or like the phrasing, like the sentence that you said, a specific sentence that was said aloud by me without my memory in that month that you said that.

I was gonna say it crazy.

Like it's that kind of energy.

Good moment maybe to say that Aleeyah has probability view and need motivation.

And I feel like, yeah, probability view is just such a cool quality of mind to have for someone who does predictive oriented tarot readings.

I'll also say I like I'm so selective with having anyone hold any kind of space for me because I don't like to shine my lantern in very many directions.

I don't trust a lot of other people's perspectives on my life.

And Aaliyah is one of like two people that I've formally gone to for that kind of space holding.

And you know, I should have said this to you earlier, Aliyah, I'm sorry that I didn't, but anyone who's been following me for the last six months or so knows it's been a pretty transformative six months for me.

And I'm often thinking back to the space you held for me in the late summer and fall right before I moved forward with collaboratory, which was so transformative for me on so many levels for me and other people.

And at the same time as moving forward with collaboratory, I moved forward with the Lyd podcast and restructuring my Patreon and there were like several times where in like a 5 or 10 minute short concentrated period, Aleeyah just like listening to me for a little bit and then pulling a few cards and uttering like a few sentences were just the most like, there's so much like relief and release into the probable path ahead and so much like validation, such a potency of validation in just a few words and a few moments.

And as I've been moving through this really transformative in a very positive resourcing way for myself the second half of 2025, I've been very often reflecting on those moments and how Much, I feel like, yeah, momentum, but there's a clarity and a stillness that really resourced a lot of the momentum that the second half of the year for me took.

So, yeah, just a shout out to the quality of that kind of session with Aaliyah.

And it sounds really cool, like a card for every month.

I hope you're charging several hundreds of dollars for those sessions.

It's a sliding scale for folks, what people can pay, but it does go.

The scale does go into the hundreds.

It's really fun and I'm really excited to be offering them.

I'm offering them through February.

Yeah, it's.

I don't know, I've really more than a lot of.

I mean, I see it in all the readings I do, but this is probably like the most feedback I've gotten from any type of reading.

The feedback I've gotten this year and last year for the year ahead readings has been really positive and really impactful and powerful.

So, yeah, I'm excited to offer them and so I'm available to do that for folks.

I'm gonna plug a couple things real quick too.

If anyone listening is not very familiar with, but wants to be more familiar with the 2027 stuff that I mentioned, it's very embedded in how I'm looking at reality shifting over time.

Right now.

There's a very basic intro to that on my Patreon, which currently it's available to all the tiers, which currently the lowest tier, called the solarium, is $10, but I'm gonna raise prices of all of.

I think it's called 2027.

The very basics of global cycles.

It's like two and a half or three hours of me just talking through the basics.

And then Jessa and I taught a very in depth, comprehensive 20 plus hours class where we dig into all eight locks, the constructs of each era, and then the eight keys that fit into those locks and the last era and the eight keys of the new one.

So there's resources for that.

But yeah, I mainly just wanted to offer those two options for 2027 stuff because I talk about it a lot and it does not feel separate from what we just talked about.

Not at all.

Yeah.

Cool.

I'm gonna hit you up about a year Ahead session.

This conversation helped pull me into big picture visioning stuff.

Yeah, I enjoy talking to you if it makes me feel excited about the year too.

What?

Just like Capricorn Rising?

I enjoy talking to you.

It makes me feel excited.

I know.

I love that aspect about myself.

I've totally embraced this.

The dryness, the sextile between Capricorn and Scorpio.

Your Scorpio sun is not worried because your Capricorn rising is like, it's fine.

We'll keep it.

What is it called?

In pocket, not out of pocket.

I had to, like, side note, when I was still reading for people one on one, I had to, like, brace myself if it was an Earth rising because I started to realize how insecure I would feel, like, during and after because I was not getting feedback.

Like, how with the fire rising, we're like risings too.

And, like, water risings are a little more emotive as well.

But, yeah, Earth risings.

You just really gotta fucking trust yourself.

Cause you don't know what's.

That is so true.

I. I have the same.

If it makes me feel any better, I have the same thing when I'm reading for Earth.

Yeah.

All right.

Good little mirror.

Okay.

Why?

My video just turned off.

Okay, well, thank you, everyone.

Thank you, Aaliyah.

Happy New Year.

Go finish shedding some.

Okay.

Happy New Year.

Sa.

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