1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,840 Susan: You're gonna be like i never should have had this idiot on my show! When your 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:12,960 Susan: bean has knit enough socks this you can sell the socks in air quotes sell to 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,340 Susan: buy furniture and accessories for your beans apartment 4 00:00:19,170 --> 00:00:24,170 Danny: Hi, and welcome to 5 Random Questions, the show with unexpected questions and unfiltered answers. 5 00:00:24,490 --> 00:00:28,290 Danny: I'm your host, Danny Brown, and each week I'll be asking my guests 5 questions 6 00:00:28,290 --> 00:00:30,210 Danny: created by a random question generator. 7 00:00:30,650 --> 00:00:33,450 Danny: The guest has no idea what the questions are, and neither do I, 8 00:00:33,690 --> 00:00:35,210 Danny: which means this could go either way. 9 00:00:35,450 --> 00:00:39,030 Danny: So sit back, relax, and let's dive into this week's episode. 10 00:00:39,630 --> 00:00:43,950 Danny: Today's guest is Susan Barry. Susan is known for connecting ideas across hotel 11 00:00:43,950 --> 00:00:46,330 Danny: investment, operations, and marketing. 12 00:00:46,330 --> 00:00:51,470 Danny: As host of the award-winning Top Floor podcast, named a Top 10 Hospitality podcast 13 00:00:51,470 --> 00:00:57,030 Danny: by the International Hospitality Institute in 2025, Susan sparks curiosity and 14 00:00:57,030 --> 00:01:00,890 Danny: conversation by interviewing leaders who are shaping the future of the industry. 15 00:01:01,570 --> 00:01:06,090 Danny: Susan founded Hive Marketing, a firm specialising in B2B demand generation for 16 00:01:06,090 --> 00:01:09,490 Danny: the hospitality industry, and she's also known for her sharp insights, 17 00:01:09,930 --> 00:01:13,030 Danny: humour and ability to push conversations beyond the expected. 18 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:16,790 Danny: She lives in Atlanta with her artist husband, Sean. So Susan, 19 00:01:17,110 --> 00:01:19,090 Danny: welcome to 5 Random Questions. 20 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:23,010 Susan: Danny, thank you so much for having me. What a nice introduction. 21 00:01:23,010 --> 00:01:26,610 Susan: I just want to put that on repeat and listen to it. 22 00:01:27,570 --> 00:01:31,390 Danny: You're very welcome. And obviously, this is an audio-only podcast, 23 00:01:31,570 --> 00:01:33,830 Danny: but we're in a room that shares video. 24 00:01:34,050 --> 00:01:38,250 Danny: And I mentioned before starting recording, behind you is a lovely print that 25 00:01:38,250 --> 00:01:40,610 Danny: turns out that your husband is the artist of. 26 00:01:40,610 --> 00:01:46,750 Susan: Yes, it's a huge painting. It's an abstract with lots of different colors, 27 00:01:46,750 --> 00:01:49,250 Susan: which is a little bit out of character for him, 28 00:01:49,410 --> 00:01:55,370 Susan: but still something that I feel really lucky to be able to have my hands on 29 00:01:55,370 --> 00:01:59,730 Susan: because it's too big for him to transport to fine art festivals. 30 00:01:59,910 --> 00:02:05,130 Susan: So I get to have it as my backdrop, and it always sparks a lot of conversation. 31 00:02:07,010 --> 00:02:09,910 Danny: Understandably so it looks amazing and this is one of the reasons I wish I did 32 00:02:09,910 --> 00:02:14,330 Danny: a video version of this podcast yeah it looks very very good so kudos to your husband, 33 00:02:15,150 --> 00:02:19,070 Danny: And as I mentioned in your intro there, your podcast, you know, 34 00:02:19,150 --> 00:02:23,890 Danny: it's a top podcast, an award-winning podcast, and it's been running for more than 200 episodes. 35 00:02:24,310 --> 00:02:28,590 Danny: And one thing that caught my eye in the description on your website is come 36 00:02:28,590 --> 00:02:31,170 Danny: for the expert tips, stay for the load and dock stories. 37 00:02:31,670 --> 00:02:36,050 Danny: I'm guessing the load and dock is the delivery because you used to work as part 38 00:02:36,050 --> 00:02:39,470 Danny: of that. Is the delivery load and dock area of hotels? Is that correct? 39 00:02:39,470 --> 00:02:45,790 Susan: Yes. Okay. And in hotels and restaurants and maybe every other kind of company, 40 00:02:45,910 --> 00:02:52,230 Susan: the loading dock is where people go to dish the dirt and tell their secrets, 41 00:02:52,590 --> 00:02:53,910 Susan: share their crazy stories. 42 00:02:54,630 --> 00:03:01,750 Susan: Hospitality is very, very, very famous for having the truly craziest stories of all time. 43 00:03:01,750 --> 00:03:06,490 Susan: And so when I initially started planning out the show, I really just wanted 44 00:03:06,490 --> 00:03:09,850 Susan: to invite people to come on and tell me their hard-to-believe stories. 45 00:03:09,850 --> 00:03:13,250 Susan: But the folks that I was developing the show with were like, 46 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:18,830 Susan: it's probably going to be a pretty short show if all you do is take one story. 47 00:03:18,930 --> 00:03:23,490 Susan: So that's how we end every episode after the interview, by hopefully getting 48 00:03:23,490 --> 00:03:29,430 Susan: people's crazy, funny, weird, wild, wacky stories. My mom is an avid listener 49 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:33,510 Susan: and in her words, the more salacious, the better. 50 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:38,810 Susan: So you can truly hear just about anything on the loading dock. 51 00:03:40,010 --> 00:03:43,930 Danny: It sounds, and as you mentioned, also there's like some crazy stories that you 52 00:03:43,930 --> 00:03:45,170 Danny: would imagine would come through. 53 00:03:45,740 --> 00:03:50,760 Danny: And speaking of your hospitality career, you started that by sleeping in your 54 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,180 Danny: car, events and parties. 55 00:03:53,420 --> 00:03:57,320 Danny: I've got to assume that that must have been pretty a different kind of experience 56 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,580 Danny: from what you do now. No more sleeping in your car now. 57 00:03:59,780 --> 00:04:06,340 Susan: No, it was horrible. So I ran an off-premise catering company in Tallahassee, 58 00:04:06,420 --> 00:04:09,740 Susan: Florida, which is the state capital of Florida. 59 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:17,340 Susan: And during the legislative session, we would be so crazy busy that there wasn't 60 00:04:17,340 --> 00:04:21,040 Susan: time to go home and sleep or change or do anything like that. 61 00:04:21,260 --> 00:04:26,320 Susan: So I would have to like catch a nap in my car in between events. 62 00:04:26,620 --> 00:04:35,140 Susan: Also, and this is so gross, but I often drove my car for like smaller caterings, 63 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Susan: you know, if we were dropping something off or whatever. 64 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:47,000 Susan: And I at one point had like an half inch thick layer of baked beans in the trunk 65 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,160 Susan: of my car from it splashing out over the side of the hotel pans, 66 00:04:51,260 --> 00:04:56,980 Susan: like very disgusting, very nitty gritty hard work. 67 00:04:57,220 --> 00:05:00,540 Susan: Everyone thinks that the hotel business is a lot of hours and a lot of work, 68 00:05:00,620 --> 00:05:03,180 Susan: but compared to off-premise catering, it was a cakewalk. 69 00:05:04,140 --> 00:05:09,040 Danny: And I can imagine, so we spoke, you were from Atlanta, baked beans, 70 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,880 Danny: I would think, can be a bit pungent if left on a trunk or a car in hot weather. 71 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:15,620 Susan: It was so bad. 72 00:05:16,940 --> 00:05:20,500 Danny: But now you've moved on from that. No more baked beans in your life, 73 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,220 Danny: or at least not in that way anyway. 74 00:05:22,420 --> 00:05:26,280 Susan: Exactly. Although I do have a slight aversion to baked beans and now I'm starting 75 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:28,180 Susan: to put it together. Maybe that's why. 76 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,460 Danny: It's coming from your past, coming from your past. Yeah, I can imagine that 77 00:05:32,460 --> 00:05:34,740 Danny: would be something. It put me off some point as well. 78 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,140 Danny: Well, hopefully we don't have an inversion. Nice move, little segue there. 79 00:05:39,260 --> 00:05:42,220 Danny: Hopefully we don't have an inversion to any of the questions that we're going 80 00:05:42,220 --> 00:05:44,020 Danny: to put you in the random question hot seat for. 81 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:48,040 Danny: So if you're ready, Susan, are you ready to jump into the random question hot seat? 82 00:05:48,260 --> 00:05:52,380 Susan: I am so ready, nervous, and excited at the same time. 83 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,760 Danny: Awesome. Let me just bring up the random question generator and we will jump in. 84 00:05:58,650 --> 00:06:02,350 Danny: Okay, interesting one to kick things off with actually. So Susan, 85 00:06:02,610 --> 00:06:07,350 Danny: question number one, if you could relive any day of your life, what would you choose? 86 00:06:07,490 --> 00:06:10,170 Danny: And what would you do differently? So a little two-paro there. 87 00:06:10,730 --> 00:06:18,690 Susan: Oh my goodness. Okay, I can absolutely think of a day that was so amazingly fantastic. 88 00:06:18,710 --> 00:06:22,170 Susan: I would love to relive it like once a quarter. 89 00:06:22,650 --> 00:06:30,250 Susan: And that was on a trip to Europe with my husband to visit his brother, 90 00:06:30,510 --> 00:06:33,890 Susan: who was stationed in Germany in the Air Force. 91 00:06:34,050 --> 00:06:38,670 Susan: And we were going to a bunch of different places, but we went to Florence, 92 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:45,410 Susan: met up with some of my brother-in-law's friends, and took a day trip to Tuscany. 93 00:06:45,690 --> 00:06:53,170 Susan: So there were six of us, five, six of us, crammed in this tiny little European 94 00:06:53,170 --> 00:06:59,590 Susan: car with a private tour guide who took us from farm to farm, 95 00:06:59,870 --> 00:07:05,930 Susan: olive oil grove to vineyard all throughout Tuscany. 96 00:07:06,370 --> 00:07:08,550 Susan: And the last place we ended up, we were going to have lunch. 97 00:07:09,530 --> 00:07:16,870 Susan: It just so happened to be my husband's birthday. And so the proprietors of this 98 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:22,410 Susan: vineyard where we were having lunch offered to let him learn to saber a bottle 99 00:07:22,410 --> 00:07:26,710 Susan: of sparkling wine as sort of like the celebration of his birthday. 100 00:07:27,030 --> 00:07:33,850 Susan: Now, this is probably as a result of the lunch, which included quite the significant 101 00:07:33,850 --> 00:07:39,810 Susan: wine tasting alongside of it. But it was just the most magical experience. 102 00:07:40,350 --> 00:07:45,830 Susan: I can still picture him saboring the top of that bottle of Prosecco. 103 00:07:46,170 --> 00:07:51,990 Susan: And then on the way home, our private tour guide decided that we needed to have 104 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:54,330 Susan: a teeny tiny car karaoke. 105 00:07:54,930 --> 00:08:00,370 Susan: And so was playing all these songs that he thought a bunch of weird Americans would like. 106 00:08:00,550 --> 00:08:03,330 Susan: And they were all songs that we had never heard before. 107 00:08:03,550 --> 00:08:08,010 Susan: So it was quite the experience. And we just sang along and pretended like we knew what we were doing. 108 00:08:08,230 --> 00:08:14,830 Susan: It was absolutely top three life experience of all time. I wish I could do it once a week. 109 00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:19,550 Danny: And like you mentioned there, Tuscany, that's a beautiful part of Europe. 110 00:08:19,550 --> 00:08:24,030 Danny: It's like gorgeous. And obviously the vineyards there, you sampled, gratefully. 111 00:08:24,910 --> 00:08:29,890 Danny: So I'm curious, what songs did the driver feel that you would enjoy? 112 00:08:30,030 --> 00:08:38,890 Susan: I don't know. I think that we were giving an 80s vibe, like sort of the skating 113 00:08:38,890 --> 00:08:44,910 Susan: rink, Madonna, NXSC kind of music. 114 00:08:44,930 --> 00:08:50,670 Susan: But it wasn't that. I do not know what he was playing, but it was nothing that 115 00:08:50,670 --> 00:08:52,890 Susan: I knew the words to. So I just... 116 00:08:53,850 --> 00:08:58,530 Susan: Sang along and tried to fake it until we finished each tune. 117 00:08:58,850 --> 00:09:02,830 Danny: Well, that's the best way, though. It's like I always, it reminds me of my uncle 118 00:09:02,830 --> 00:09:05,870 Danny: when I used to live back in Scotland as a young teen. 119 00:09:06,250 --> 00:09:10,030 Danny: He'd love to get up and sing, you know, at bars, well, not so much restaurants, 120 00:09:10,170 --> 00:09:11,770 Danny: but bars and places like that. 121 00:09:11,830 --> 00:09:12,610 Susan: Sing for his supper. 122 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:18,150 Danny: Yeah, exactly. But he did not know a lot of songs. So he'd start off with the 123 00:09:18,150 --> 00:09:20,510 Danny: words that were correct, but then me and I went to... 124 00:09:22,690 --> 00:09:25,390 Danny: I don't know if that's a Scottish thing, but yeah, it sounds like, 125 00:09:25,430 --> 00:09:27,510 Danny: you know, that kind of translates across the globe. 126 00:09:28,130 --> 00:09:28,790 Susan: A hundred percent. 127 00:09:29,650 --> 00:09:34,950 Danny: That is awesome. There's a guy here in Toronto. Well, I'm not in Toronto, but close enough. 128 00:09:35,270 --> 00:09:37,990 Danny: He's like a cab driver, Uber driver kind of thing. 129 00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:42,250 Danny: He's got his own channel on like Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, et cetera. 130 00:09:42,430 --> 00:09:46,070 Danny: And what he does, I think he's called Trip Guy, and I'll leave the link to his 131 00:09:46,070 --> 00:09:46,970 Danny: channel in the show notes. 132 00:09:47,610 --> 00:09:52,030 Danny: But what he does, when the guests, if you like, get into his cab, 133 00:09:52,330 --> 00:09:55,170 Danny: like the passengers, he'll hand them, so he'll put on lights, 134 00:09:55,330 --> 00:09:59,750 Danny: like big sort of, you know, LED lights to turn the car green, 135 00:09:59,910 --> 00:10:01,130 Danny: blue, red, all that kind of cool stuff. 136 00:10:01,590 --> 00:10:05,030 Danny: Give them a mic and they choose the song they want to sing from his collection. 137 00:10:05,250 --> 00:10:09,250 Danny: So they know the song. It sounds like that'd be something that you'd probably 138 00:10:09,250 --> 00:10:11,230 Danny: be more up for because at least you know the song, right? 139 00:10:11,350 --> 00:10:14,210 Susan: Yes. Well, plus those karaoke machines will give you the words. 140 00:10:14,210 --> 00:10:18,150 Susan: So even if you don't know, you can sort of figure it out. 141 00:10:18,310 --> 00:10:21,870 Susan: Whereas just these random songs on the radio, I was a little bit lost. 142 00:10:22,890 --> 00:10:28,690 Danny: I hear you. But no, that's a great memory. And because you're in the industry, 143 00:10:29,090 --> 00:10:30,750 Danny: you know, the hospitality industry, 144 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,420 Danny: Do you ever get to, like, sorry, not quite replicate it, because obviously Tuscany 145 00:10:35,420 --> 00:10:39,560 Danny: is Tuscany, but is there anything that's going to come close in your travels to that? 146 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:48,520 Susan: Oh, I would say because of the beautiful landscape and the vineyard of it all, 147 00:10:48,700 --> 00:10:54,080 Susan: that being in the Napa Valley is so much like being in Tuscany and vice versa. 148 00:10:54,080 --> 00:11:01,700 Susan: I did a consulting project in Napa many years ago for several months. 149 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:07,540 Susan: And so I was doing working at a hotel, the West Inverasa, Napa. 150 00:11:07,940 --> 00:11:12,960 Susan: And I remember waking up the first morning because there was a huge time difference. 151 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,780 Susan: So I woke up at like five o'clock in the morning, just like wide awake and 152 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:22,800 Susan: And looking out the window and seeing hot air balloons, like floating across 153 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,780 Susan: the horizon and just thinking like, how is this work? 154 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:34,160 Susan: Like they're paying me to be here. This is insane. So definitely Napa is quite 155 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,300 Susan: the similar feel. And look, it looks similar too. 156 00:11:38,100 --> 00:11:42,340 Danny: I've heard that. And anytime I see pictures of the Napa Valley in that region, 157 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:46,840 Danny: it's like you say, you've got all the vineyards and you've got like a sunset 158 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,040 Danny: that's glorious in the background. 159 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:50,960 Danny: And, you know, a lot of little birds or balloons floating across. 160 00:11:51,060 --> 00:11:54,600 Danny: So that's part of my bucket list because I do like a nice wine. 161 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,080 Danny: So part of my bucket list is to do a proper, you know, tour somewhere where 162 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,680 Danny: it's got a really nice place like that. 163 00:12:00,780 --> 00:12:04,640 Susan: Okay. Well, I have to tell you a secret. The general manager of that hotel, 164 00:12:04,820 --> 00:12:07,840 Susan: of that Westin, his name is Don Schindel. 165 00:12:08,060 --> 00:12:16,680 Susan: He's Canadian. In fact, he has a Canadian football league. Is that right? 166 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:23,960 Susan: CFL championship ring that he let me try on that weighs like about 15 pounds. 167 00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:28,600 Susan: So maybe you have an in with him, the Canada connection. 168 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,960 Danny: But my buddy in Toronto, he runs his own marketing agency. He has a lot of connections, 169 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:36,200 Danny: you know, kind of like that. But I don't think it'd be that one. But that'd be awesome. 170 00:12:36,340 --> 00:12:39,160 Danny: I'd have to just organise that. So that's on my bucket list anyway. 171 00:12:39,340 --> 00:12:43,560 Danny: So I like that. That was a nice question to ease into the randomness. 172 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:49,020 Danny: So let's have a look then to see what we do at question number two. 173 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,520 Danny: This has been up before, but it's been a while back. And I kind of like questions like this. 174 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,700 Danny: So if it's okay, Susan, question number two. Would You Want to Know When Yule Day? 175 00:13:00,730 --> 00:13:07,830 Susan: No, no way. I don't want to know. In fact, this is like a little bit crazy sounding. 176 00:13:08,130 --> 00:13:14,730 Susan: So be cool. But ever since I was a little kid, I've always sort of fantasized. 177 00:13:14,890 --> 00:13:18,790 Susan: I can't even believe I'm about to say this out loud. But I've always sort of 178 00:13:18,790 --> 00:13:26,210 Susan: fantasized about dying in a rogue like drive by shooting or something like that, 179 00:13:26,270 --> 00:13:28,110 Susan: because it would be so sudden. 180 00:13:28,110 --> 00:13:34,130 Susan: You would have nothing leading up to it, no dread, no misery, 181 00:13:34,370 --> 00:13:39,470 Susan: no discomfort, just like one day you're shopping and the next day you're gone. 182 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:45,950 Susan: Now, I really don't actually hope that I get shot, but I hope that I die completely 183 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:49,610 Susan: unexpectedly in my sleep at peace. 184 00:13:49,850 --> 00:13:50,910 Danny: I think... 185 00:13:51,690 --> 00:13:55,290 Danny: I was going to say, I think most people, not most people were your first example, 186 00:13:55,290 --> 00:13:58,790 Danny: but I think most people, yeah, would like, would want it to be peaceful. 187 00:13:59,050 --> 00:14:01,870 Danny: You know, you're asleep and you're not really aware of it. 188 00:14:02,590 --> 00:14:07,370 Danny: I'm wondering, because I know the guest that had this question, 189 00:14:07,390 --> 00:14:08,570 Danny: it was one of the early seasons. 190 00:14:09,190 --> 00:14:13,710 Danny: So I can't recall the answer offhand. But the guest that had the question chose 191 00:14:13,710 --> 00:14:18,190 Danny: to know in advance, only because from that point of view, you can maybe let 192 00:14:18,190 --> 00:14:19,870 Danny: people know and ease them into, 193 00:14:20,110 --> 00:14:23,170 Danny: you know, the people that would be left behind and prepare them. 194 00:14:23,330 --> 00:14:24,630 Danny: But I don't know if that'd be the same. 195 00:14:24,830 --> 00:14:27,910 Danny: I think that was more about if you had like that terminal wellness, for example. 196 00:14:28,750 --> 00:14:34,110 Susan: I wonder if your answer is different if you have children versus not. I don't have children. 197 00:14:34,490 --> 00:14:38,950 Susan: So, you know, I feel like there's probably a little bit less of the, 198 00:14:39,770 --> 00:14:43,390 Susan: I mean, everybody I know is my same age, right? 199 00:14:43,710 --> 00:14:47,470 Susan: We're all going to go at some point. So they don't need to worry about it. 200 00:14:48,430 --> 00:14:51,630 Danny: Yeah, no, that's a good point. I mean, I'm a little bit older than my wife. 201 00:14:51,850 --> 00:14:57,730 Danny: So hopefully she'd live another 10 years, at least before, you know, after I clogged. 202 00:14:58,890 --> 00:15:02,790 Danny: But yeah, it's interesting you mentioned kids, because anytime I see people 203 00:15:02,790 --> 00:15:07,910 Danny: that have kids and parents die, it can be really hard for the kids afterwards. 204 00:15:09,790 --> 00:15:16,430 Danny: I watch the Jack Osborne show on his video podcast and when his dad died and 205 00:15:16,430 --> 00:15:18,850 Danny: passed, you can see it still tears him up today. 206 00:15:19,110 --> 00:15:22,890 Danny: And I always wonder, can you try prep your kids for that? 207 00:15:23,270 --> 00:15:27,930 Danny: So I guess you can't really prep people. Everybody's different, how they react to death. 208 00:15:27,930 --> 00:15:34,410 Susan: I don't think so because I have experienced the death of loved ones recently. 209 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,540 Susan: Who we knew would be dying soon. 210 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,380 Susan: You know, we were just sort of waiting for it to happen. 211 00:15:44,740 --> 00:15:49,940 Susan: And it still felt different when the moment happened. So like, 212 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,200 Susan: you're sad leading up to it. 213 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,580 Susan: You sort of get accustomed to the idea. 214 00:15:55,860 --> 00:15:59,800 Susan: And then when it happens, you're sad all over again. There's no amount of preparation, 215 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:04,480 Susan: at least for me, there was no amount of preparation that would have changed my reaction. 216 00:16:05,470 --> 00:16:09,190 Danny: Yeah, I always wonder how our daughter would react. She's a weird one. 217 00:16:09,470 --> 00:16:13,610 Danny: She's a teen, just became a teen last year. She'll be 14 next month, actually. 218 00:16:14,110 --> 00:16:16,550 Danny: And she cares. She's a very caring soul. 219 00:16:17,090 --> 00:16:22,450 Danny: But around death, like when our dogs passed, she was like, was there blood? Are they dead now? 220 00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:26,790 Danny: It's very matter of fact in your face about death and no emotion. 221 00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:32,230 Danny: And she was sad, but it was the same when her great-grandma passed and she asked 222 00:16:32,230 --> 00:16:36,350 Danny: her grandma, so her grandma's mom died, And she asked her grandma, 223 00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:39,570 Danny: so what happened? Was there blood? Is she dead now? 224 00:16:40,150 --> 00:16:43,590 Danny: And this was about a week after the lady had passed. And obviously, 225 00:16:43,750 --> 00:16:45,430 Danny: my wife's mom was distraught. 226 00:16:45,570 --> 00:16:50,730 Danny: So she's very in your face. And I don't know if that's a good thing or not. What do you think? 227 00:16:50,910 --> 00:16:59,110 Susan: I think everyone copes with sort of unknowns and grieving in different ways. 228 00:16:59,430 --> 00:17:04,250 Susan: I mean, I probably have a tendency. First of all, I'm a crier, 229 00:17:04,430 --> 00:17:08,670 Susan: so I will cry like if I get too happy, I'm crying, much less too sad. 230 00:17:09,370 --> 00:17:13,830 Susan: But also I think I have a tendency to make maybe some slightly inappropriate 231 00:17:13,830 --> 00:17:18,710 Susan: jokes, which probably doesn't please everyone in my life. 232 00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:24,350 Susan: So I think there's a huge spectrum. It's also maybe trying to understand death 233 00:17:24,350 --> 00:17:28,670 Susan: and trying to understand the sort of physical properties of it, 234 00:17:28,930 --> 00:17:32,850 Susan: thinking that that will unlock understanding of the emotional properties. 235 00:17:32,850 --> 00:17:36,450 Susan: Not that that's necessarily possible, but that may be what she's thinking. 236 00:17:37,470 --> 00:17:41,470 Danny: That's a good, yeah, that's a good point. I mean, I don't want anybody to die, 237 00:17:41,470 --> 00:17:42,590 Danny: so I can test that theory. 238 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:44,980 Danny: That's a good point. 239 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,840 Susan: Get a goldfish. That's a good practice. 240 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,140 Danny: Yeah, we used to have beta fishes. We couldn't keep these poor little souls alive. 241 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,960 Danny: So we'll probably bypass that one. But yeah, I like that, actually. 242 00:17:55,260 --> 00:17:57,980 Danny: And it's like you say, everybody's different from a joy point of view. 243 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:01,780 Danny: How people react to positivity can be different as well as negativity, right? 244 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,740 Danny: So I shall ask. I won't ask her. I'll just monitor her. 245 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,460 Danny: Next time a major event like that happens, I will monitor her and I will let you know how that goes. 246 00:18:10,460 --> 00:18:18,880 Susan: Well, and here's a way maybe to test the theory is to give a detailed explanation 247 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,940 Susan: physically of what happened and see what, 248 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:26,000 Susan: then what is the reaction. Do you know what I mean? 249 00:18:26,460 --> 00:18:30,840 Susan: Like, well, the heart stopped and then that caused the, you know, 250 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,620 Susan: I don't feel like getting into too much detail, but you know what I mean? 251 00:18:35,620 --> 00:18:37,920 Danny: Yeah, I'd prefer to put an explicit rating on this one. But yeah, 252 00:18:37,940 --> 00:18:41,220 Danny: I hear you. It's just like, yeah, we'll try that for sure. 253 00:18:41,380 --> 00:18:45,820 Danny: And like I say, I will update you. So you'll either get a happy update or a, what did you do? 254 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,020 Danny: What are you telling me to do? Update. 255 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,160 Susan: Okay, okay. 256 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:52,200 Danny: We will see. Well, that's a different one. It's a different one. 257 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,060 Danny: So let's have a look then at question number three. 258 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,820 Danny: And I feel this might be a lot, but I'm going to find out. Question number three, 259 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,200 Danny: Susan. How often do you use your phone? 260 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,300 Susan: Oh, my Lord. I use my phone all day, every day. 261 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:16,200 Susan: Here's the problem. I am a very avid reader, but I only read e-books like I read on a Kindle. 262 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,300 Susan: And my favorite way to read on a Kindle is on my phone. 263 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:26,700 Susan: So that is a very stupid habit to get into because if you're already holding 264 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:32,500 Susan: the phone and you're reading a novel, it's quite quick and very tempting to 265 00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:34,420 Susan: slide right on over to TikTok, 266 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,060 Susan: watch a few videos, and then go back to your book. 267 00:19:37,380 --> 00:19:42,780 Susan: I'm gonna tell you this though, I got an app maybe a week ago, maybe a little bit more, 268 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:47,480 Susan: I am going to sneak a peek at my phone because I cannot remember the name of the app. 269 00:19:47,660 --> 00:19:53,380 Susan: But if you're searching for it, you can Google Hank Green Productivity App. 270 00:19:53,620 --> 00:19:55,360 Susan: Okay, it's called Focus Friend. 271 00:19:56,220 --> 00:19:59,340 Susan: This app I learned about on TikTok, of course. 272 00:19:59,540 --> 00:20:05,540 Susan: It's a little bean and the bean knits socks. 273 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:11,100 Susan: So when you want to focus, you set a timer and the bean will knit socks for 274 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:15,380 Susan: the entire time that you don't touch your phone. Every time you touch your phone, you lose a sock. 275 00:20:16,170 --> 00:20:22,130 Susan: When you've, when you're, you're going to be like, I never should have had this idiot on my show. 276 00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:29,710 Susan: When your bean has knit enough socks, this, you can sell the socks in air quotes, 277 00:20:30,030 --> 00:20:35,410 Susan: sell to buy furniture and accessories for your beans apartment. 278 00:20:35,630 --> 00:20:40,570 Susan: It seems like utter nonsense, but for whatever reason, if you start the timer 279 00:20:40,570 --> 00:20:43,450 Susan: and then you pick up your phone and it says, don't interrupt me. 280 00:20:43,450 --> 00:20:46,810 Susan: And you're watching the Bean knitting socks, you're like, oh my God, 281 00:20:46,930 --> 00:20:48,690 Susan: oh my God. And you like throw the phone away. 282 00:20:49,010 --> 00:20:52,090 Susan: So listen, my point is this, I'm working on it. 283 00:20:52,430 --> 00:20:56,130 Danny: But that's why I sort of gave that little preamble beforehand because I feel 284 00:20:56,130 --> 00:21:00,430 Danny: that with your job and the industry you're in, it's very much always on kind 285 00:21:00,430 --> 00:21:02,170 Danny: of, you know. Yes, yes. It's a 24-7 industry. 286 00:21:02,330 --> 00:21:05,170 Danny: So I completely get that. I do love the sound of that app. 287 00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:08,530 Danny: It's almost like it knows you've got bad habits, for example, 288 00:21:08,790 --> 00:21:11,850 Danny: but it's showing you whether you can have a bad habit, but in a good way. 289 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:12,590 Susan: Yes. 290 00:21:12,590 --> 00:21:15,250 Danny: It'd be really cool. And maybe it does this as well. I'm definitely going to 291 00:21:15,250 --> 00:21:19,650 Danny: check it out because I can be really bad at, you know, going down that vortex 292 00:21:19,650 --> 00:21:23,530 Danny: of YouTube, TikTok, everything. And I think, where did the last four hours go? 293 00:21:24,010 --> 00:21:28,170 Danny: You mentioned, so obviously Knit sucks and then you can buy stuff for his apartment. 294 00:21:28,170 --> 00:21:33,150 Danny: I mean, it'd be really cool if some of the stuff that you could sell maybe for 295 00:21:33,150 --> 00:21:36,290 Danny: other users, you know, that could buy or even, 296 00:21:36,570 --> 00:21:42,670 Danny: you know, if you're really good, an X amount of percentage of app profit or 297 00:21:42,670 --> 00:21:44,590 Danny: whatever, whatever that looks like. I'm just waffling now. 298 00:21:44,970 --> 00:21:49,430 Danny: Goes to, you know, like charities for kids with ADHD, anything like that. 299 00:21:49,550 --> 00:21:50,730 Danny: You know, that'd be kind of a cool. 300 00:21:50,850 --> 00:21:55,770 Susan: That's a good idea. There's a pro version of FocusFriend that I don't pay for. 301 00:21:55,770 --> 00:22:00,330 Susan: So there may be all kinds of other options that I just don't know about. 302 00:22:00,330 --> 00:22:05,710 Susan: I'm still very new to the sock knitting business. But once I learn more, I will share more. 303 00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:09,510 Danny: Sock knitting business. I like it. And obviously, as you mentioned, 304 00:22:09,710 --> 00:22:12,870 Danny: we can understand why you're on your phone a lot. 305 00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:15,650 Danny: Is there an app that you wish you could use? 306 00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:21,150 Danny: Take off, even though you'd miss it a lot, because you know that takes up a 307 00:22:21,150 --> 00:22:22,750 Danny: lot of your time that doesn't need to? 308 00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:31,850 Susan: That's a hard question to answer because some days and after some things happen, 309 00:22:32,970 --> 00:22:41,550 Susan: in the United States. I wish that I had no apps. And I wish that I could stop 310 00:22:41,550 --> 00:22:46,110 Susan: seeing how crazy things are getting in this country. 311 00:22:46,510 --> 00:22:51,110 Susan: But so I guess my knee jerk answer was going to be Instagram. 312 00:22:51,490 --> 00:22:57,250 Susan: But then Instagram brings me so much comedy and happiness and joy too, 313 00:22:57,550 --> 00:22:58,910 Susan: that I would never want to give it up. 314 00:22:58,970 --> 00:23:03,350 Susan: I think probably the answer with Instagram is to continuously reset your feed 315 00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:07,590 Susan: so that you're focusing on the things that make you happy and not interacting 316 00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:10,310 Susan: with things that bring you down so that you don't get more of it. 317 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:14,130 Danny: Yeah, I hear that. I stopped using Twitter. 318 00:23:14,330 --> 00:23:17,190 Danny: I can't call it X. I know it's called X, but I stopped using Twitter when it 319 00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:20,790 Danny: was still Twitter because I just felt it was becoming really toxic. 320 00:23:20,790 --> 00:23:22,010 Danny: And I can't be doing with that. 321 00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:26,690 Danny: So I moved over to Blue Sky and was very specific about feeds I followed and 322 00:23:26,690 --> 00:23:30,610 Danny: not getting recommendations. And I have like auto play switched off for videos 323 00:23:30,610 --> 00:23:33,570 Danny: because I don't want to see something accidentally, especially, 324 00:23:33,850 --> 00:23:35,750 Danny: you know, as you mentioned, news cycles, etc. 325 00:23:36,050 --> 00:23:38,970 Danny: A lot of times show really horrible stuff to get clicks and views. 326 00:23:39,130 --> 00:23:40,410 Danny: Right. So you don't want that in your life. 327 00:23:40,650 --> 00:23:41,010 Susan: Absolutely. 328 00:23:41,670 --> 00:23:46,690 Danny: I hear you. There's like a really cool. I mean, this is just like a really poor suggestion. 329 00:23:46,890 --> 00:23:50,190 Danny: But there's a phone called like the Simple phone or something. 330 00:23:50,570 --> 00:23:54,950 Danny: And it basically it all allows you to make calls, receive texts. 331 00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:59,870 Danny: And I think that's it. And set alarms and there's nothing else. 332 00:24:00,110 --> 00:24:03,430 Danny: You can't download apps or anything. And I've always tempted to kind of try 333 00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:08,050 Danny: that, but I feel like yourself, Susan. I miss Instagram and the fun stuff you can see in there too. 334 00:24:08,410 --> 00:24:12,590 Susan: Absolutely. Well, and you know, the other thing that I feel like it's important 335 00:24:12,590 --> 00:24:17,130 Susan: to say because most people won't ever say this is I actually don't think that 336 00:24:17,130 --> 00:24:22,470 Susan: being on your phone and screen time is like the devil that we believe it to be. 337 00:24:22,630 --> 00:24:24,770 Susan: If I weren't doing that, I would be watching TV. 338 00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:28,510 Susan: So I'm just watching TV on a different size screen. 339 00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:34,130 Danny: No, one of my previous guests, Tim, Tim Truax, he's a Canadian, 340 00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:40,210 Danny: and he was talking about, no, it wasn't Tim, sorry, it was Colin Gray from the podcast host. 341 00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:43,990 Danny: And he was talking about the same thing where a lot of the time we look at our 342 00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:46,410 Danny: kids being on their phones a lot and thinking it's bad. 343 00:24:46,550 --> 00:24:53,130 Danny: But what he found was his daughter was playing Fortnite and basically the phone was on. 344 00:24:53,250 --> 00:24:57,190 Danny: So her friends could FaceTime as a private group, you know, they're not letting 345 00:24:57,190 --> 00:25:00,890 Danny: anybody in. And they could speak and talk and, you know, make plans in that 346 00:25:00,890 --> 00:25:02,890 Danny: whilst working as a team on Fortnite. 347 00:25:03,090 --> 00:25:07,650 Danny: So it's not, it was keeping up the art of conversation as opposed to just playing 348 00:25:07,650 --> 00:25:08,890 Danny: this video game all the time. Right. 349 00:25:08,970 --> 00:25:13,430 Danny: So I think there's more nuance than just having a six or eight inch screen in 350 00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:15,630 Danny: front of you taking away your life, so to speak. 351 00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:16,150 Susan: Agree. 352 00:25:16,930 --> 00:25:21,490 Danny: All right. Well, I like that. And I do, I do like the fact that you, 353 00:25:21,490 --> 00:25:26,030 Danny: you know, you have some bad habits and you've got that app that will help you. 354 00:25:26,030 --> 00:25:29,550 Danny: And you know that, yeah, you could get rid of Instagram, but why should you? 355 00:25:29,670 --> 00:25:32,850 Susan: Because Instagram's got great stuff too. I would laugh so much less if I got 356 00:25:32,850 --> 00:25:36,450 Susan: rid of Instagram. I have a hilarious feed. 357 00:25:36,610 --> 00:25:40,550 Susan: So that is where I get all my good jokes to steal. 358 00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:46,230 Danny: Exactly. Well, I like that. I like that. It's a good mid-round question, if you like. 359 00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:52,210 Danny: So on that note, let's have a look at question number four. 360 00:25:53,340 --> 00:25:56,640 Danny: What is, and again, I'm curious because obviously you're in, 361 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,960 Danny: you know, around the food industry. What is your favorite pizza topping? 362 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:08,120 Susan: Oh, Lord, Danny, this is impossible. I love pizza. I love it so much. 363 00:26:08,940 --> 00:26:13,120 Susan: I have so many different pizzas that I like for different reasons. 364 00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:18,800 Susan: All right. The first, if I could only have one pizza topping for the rest of 365 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,080 Susan: my life, it would be pepperoni. Obviously. 366 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:27,240 Susan: Pepperoni is delicious. The little baby pepperonis that curl up on the sides 367 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:33,400 Susan: and collect like a little bit of the delicious pepperoni grease on the inside, A++, amen. 368 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,940 Susan: However, if I were getting a pizza buffet for the rest of my life, 369 00:26:39,140 --> 00:26:42,340 Susan: I would have pepperoni pizza, absolutely. 370 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:50,400 Susan: But then I would have a Hawaiian pizza, yes, with pineapple, bacon, ham, etc., A+. 371 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:58,940 Susan: I would have an anchovy pizza with anchovies galore, salty, weird, 372 00:26:59,220 --> 00:27:02,480 Susan: delicious. Nobody else would want it but me. A+. 373 00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:06,660 Susan: And then there's a pizza place in my neighborhood called Grant Central, 374 00:27:06,660 --> 00:27:11,840 Susan: and they make something called, I think it's called the Deluxe Vegetarian or 375 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,840 Susan: the Supreme Vegetarian or Veggie Supreme, something like that. 376 00:27:15,060 --> 00:27:19,380 Susan: But, you know, it has all the vegetables, but then it has little pieces of fried 377 00:27:19,380 --> 00:27:23,600 Susan: eggplant, like what you use for eggplant Parmesan. 378 00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:31,480 Susan: And then because we're contrary, we add Italian sausage to the veggie pizza. OMG delicious. 379 00:27:32,260 --> 00:27:35,720 Susan: How much more time do we have? Because I could keep going on and on and on about 380 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,480 Susan: pizza, but hopefully that's enough. 381 00:27:38,220 --> 00:27:41,440 Danny: No, and every single one of them, and I've said this before with other guests, 382 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,440 Danny: I have to stop asking food questions because every time you'll finish an episode 383 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,200 Danny: where food comes up, I'm salivating. 384 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,440 Susan: No, I'm so hungry. 385 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,200 Danny: That was mentioned in that episode. And pizza, I mean, pizzas are, 386 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,660 Danny: it's one of these staples, right? 387 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,180 Susan: Pizza is a perfect food. 388 00:27:55,740 --> 00:28:01,760 Danny: Exactly. And I feel I'm glad you said Hawaiian. I'm really glad because that gets so much hate. 389 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,040 Susan: I know. It's so good. People are dumb. 390 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,580 Danny: It's good. 391 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:10,000 Susan: Oh, I forgot one. It's related to Hawaiian. There's a pizza place in Atlanta called Freedy. 392 00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:14,440 Susan: And this is going to sound gross, but it is so good. 393 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,980 Susan: It's just like plain, maybe white sauce pizza. I can't remember. 394 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,840 Susan: Or garlic and olive oil, whatever. Like not red sauce is my point. Right. 395 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:28,700 Susan: And then they put pineapple and gorgonzola cheese. 396 00:28:30,380 --> 00:28:34,780 Susan: Sounds disgusting. Tastes amazing. Highly recommend. 397 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,740 Danny: I may have to try and I'll find that website. 398 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,620 Danny: Hopefully they've got a website and look to see what they put on. 399 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:45,160 Danny: I'm going to have to try to do that myself and I'll leave links to these places in the show notes. 400 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:48,440 Danny: So, you know, if anybody wants to check out them, I'm curious though. 401 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,860 Danny: On the pizza front, are you a deep dish or are you a thin crust? 402 00:28:53,180 --> 00:28:59,480 Susan: I like thinner crust, but I don't like crust so thin that it's like a cracker. 403 00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:07,940 Susan: I like New York style where it's thin, big slice of pizza that you can fold in half. 404 00:29:08,180 --> 00:29:11,500 Susan: And I really like just very delicious crust. 405 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,340 Susan: Deep dish, not for me. What about you? 406 00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:19,380 Danny: No, I think it's weird. I think it depends on the pizza and where you're getting 407 00:29:19,380 --> 00:29:22,540 Danny: it from because I've had some great deep dishes but I do tend to like the ones 408 00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:27,100 Danny: where as you mentioned New York and you're holding this massive slice and you've 409 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:30,660 Danny: got to hold it with two hands and stop it flopping at the triangle part because 410 00:29:30,660 --> 00:29:32,380 Danny: it needs to flop as a pizza. 411 00:29:32,740 --> 00:29:36,480 Danny: So I feel that's my preference too. Maybe the crust, maybe a thicker crust. 412 00:29:37,580 --> 00:29:41,900 Danny: And I know some places do stuffed crust now so you might have like garlic and, 413 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:43,040 Danny: you know, herpes cheese or something. 414 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,820 Danny: But yeah, I'm very much like you. I like to be not too thick that I have to 415 00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:51,380 Danny: take an age to eat it. I want to scrunch it down. 416 00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:55,680 Susan: Yeah, no knife and fork. No knife and fork with pizza. I want to be able to, 417 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,680 Susan: most of the time, pick it up and eat it. 418 00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:02,320 Danny: Exactly. So it sounds like you'd be a New York versus a Chicago type pizza. 419 00:30:02,660 --> 00:30:07,220 Susan: Thousand percent. Listen, if all I could have is Chicago style pizza, 420 00:30:07,220 --> 00:30:08,860 Susan: I'm still going to have the pizza. 421 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,340 Susan: But if I got to have a choice, yes, New York for sure. 422 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,980 Danny: Okay, well, I shall make sure to point listeners over to your site so they can 423 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:22,280 Danny: debate the joys and the perils of New York versus Chicago and keep you busy 424 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,880 Danny: there. I'll get them to tag you on Instagram, actually. 425 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,620 Susan: Oh, fantastic. 426 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,120 Danny: Awesome. So that was like, and again, I'm salivating. So let's move on from 427 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:35,180 Danny: the food question because I will start to want to actually make that food. 428 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,580 Danny: Okay. Yeah, I like this one, actually. This is a nice one to sort of finish off with. 429 00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:44,620 Danny: I'm curious about this, because you mentioned, you know, you've got your husband 430 00:30:44,620 --> 00:30:46,600 Danny: who's done his art and you've got your career, etc. 431 00:30:47,340 --> 00:30:52,520 Danny: Susan, for question number five, what is the ideal age to get married? 432 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,580 Susan: Ooh, what a question. This is controversial, I think. 433 00:30:57,740 --> 00:31:05,960 Susan: I was 31 when I got married, but my husband and I started dating when I was 23. 434 00:31:06,780 --> 00:31:12,920 Susan: I have seen many, many, many people that I know get married at age 25, 435 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,260 Susan: and he and I were together when we were 25. 436 00:31:16,260 --> 00:31:25,120 Susan: So I think 25 is the youngest you can be without being too young to get married. 437 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:32,240 Susan: But I still, my gut tells me that you want to be late 20s, early 30s, 438 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,520 Susan: just so that you don't regret your decision. 439 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,200 Susan: What about you? How old were you when you got married? 440 00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:44,280 Danny: Yeah, so I was 37 when I got married. 441 00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:47,920 Danny: So yeah, a good few years back, aging myself there. 442 00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:55,760 Danny: But yeah, I feel that was good because I was able to get any weird stuff out 443 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,500 Danny: of the way, you know, and then just concentrate my time on my partner, stroke wife. 444 00:32:00,060 --> 00:32:05,400 Danny: But I do also see the other side where you see high school sweethearts and they've 445 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,280 Danny: been together 30, 40, 50 years. I think my wife's grandparents were that actually. 446 00:32:10,460 --> 00:32:10,780 Susan: Oh, wow. 447 00:32:10,780 --> 00:32:16,360 Danny: Not high school, but they were, I think they got married and I could be wrong 448 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,260 Danny: but I think they got married around about the Second World War period, 449 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,000 Danny: so they met as part of like a blackout you know and you got chatting and you 450 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,140 Danny: know when you went underground to the cellars or whatever it was to stop bombs 451 00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:31,320 Danny: etc I think that's what was happening. 452 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,640 Susan: That's romantic well plus when you're going through something like that you're 453 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,700 Susan: like the world's probably going to end let's just go ahead and get hitched 454 00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:43,760 Danny: Yeah that's true and they were so happy they were so happy if I had to give 455 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,880 Danny: a template for how to find true love and happiness in a marriage, 456 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:48,740 Danny: I would point to these guys. 457 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,220 Danny: They're both passing unfortunately, but yeah, it's just, 458 00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:57,260 Danny: I do feel, now do you feel like you can have a younger marriage, 459 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:02,340 Danny: so like 20, 21, even 25, as you mentioned, but kids should maybe wait until 460 00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:03,860 Danny: you're in your thirties. 461 00:33:04,060 --> 00:33:06,800 Danny: So, or is that something? Because I know you mentioned that you don't have kids. 462 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:12,920 Susan: Yeah, I don't have kids. My sister got married when she was 25, 463 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,840 Susan: I think, and then had her daughter when she was 27 or 28. 464 00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:23,320 Susan: I'm making that up. It's something like that. And she's incredibly happy, 465 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,260 Susan: has a wonderful now grown adult daughter. 466 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:35,780 Susan: So I think it really probably depends on the person and the couple versus a hard and fast rule. 467 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,680 Susan: And if there is a hard and fast rule, I am not the person to make it. 468 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,480 Danny: Well, it's interesting because we've got friends that have got kids and not got kids. 469 00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:49,060 Danny: And the friends that do have kids had them at different times of their life 470 00:33:49,060 --> 00:33:50,240 Danny: compared to other friends. 471 00:33:50,460 --> 00:33:53,480 Danny: And the ones that don't have kids are 100% purely happy. 472 00:33:53,620 --> 00:33:56,120 Danny: They're not even bothered about kids. So I think it's like you say, 473 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,200 Danny: I feel like society, hopefully, isn't as well. 474 00:34:01,340 --> 00:34:06,440 Danny: To be a happy family, you need to be the man, the woman, the two nuclear kids. 475 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:06,760 Susan: Right, right. 476 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,340 Danny: I think the stereotype that used to be, right? It's like hopefully better now, 477 00:34:10,420 --> 00:34:13,860 Danny: though I can still see there's still mindsets that need to change on that front too. 478 00:34:14,660 --> 00:34:15,060 Susan: Absolutely. 479 00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:19,320 Danny: Well, I like that. I feel like I know my listeners. 480 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,300 Danny: If I look at my data, my listeners are between 25 and 44. That's the prime age 481 00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:27,800 Danny: group. And it's a pretty even split, actually, between male and female. 482 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:30,980 Danny: So there's food for thought. You're in that age bracket. 483 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,640 Danny: Susan's just told you what her thoughts are. I've just shared what happened to me. 484 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:42,320 Danny: If you ever feel that we did talk sense in this episode, now you know what age to get married at. 485 00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:42,800 Susan: Yes. 486 00:34:43,180 --> 00:34:48,640 Danny: But I feel that was a nice way to end your time in the random questions hot seat, Susan. 487 00:34:49,060 --> 00:34:52,760 Danny: As is only fair, I've had you in there for about 30 minutes on the hot seat 488 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,260 Danny: there, 30, just under 35 minutes. 489 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,320 Danny: It's only fair to hand over the question asking baton to you. 490 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:06,820 Susan: All right, Danny, my random question for you is, what is the worst piece of 491 00:35:06,820 --> 00:35:08,580 Susan: advice you've ever been given? 492 00:35:10,540 --> 00:35:12,580 Danny: The worst piece of advice? 493 00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:16,920 Danny: Uh i'm trying 494 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,740 Danny: to think of like i got advice from parents that didn't work out 495 00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:23,520 Danny: or teachers or anything like that or even bosses um 496 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,600 Danny: actually yeah so it's it's not 497 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,980 Danny: quite advice um but it was advice on 498 00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:33,120 Danny: someone's point of view and thinking if that's allowed because 499 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,140 Danny: i can't think of advice offhand but this put this like sticks 500 00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:38,800 Danny: with me um so when i was younger as i mentioned i lived in 501 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,360 Danny: scotland and at that time certain attitudes 502 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,260 Danny: certainly my family's side or certain generations of 503 00:35:45,260 --> 00:35:48,260 Danny: my family had a very bigoted ignorant 504 00:35:48,260 --> 00:35:51,600 Danny: attitude and i was told it was a so 505 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,920 Danny: that where we lived in scotland it was like scottish tenements very working 506 00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,360 Danny: class you know um area and there was a it's all white people and then there 507 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,820 Danny: was an indian family moved in around about when i was maybe eight nine year 508 00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:09,340 Danny: old or something and my family just told me horrible things about indians and people and such as. 509 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,740 Danny: And they told me not to play with their little girl who's the same age as me 510 00:36:12,740 --> 00:36:15,300 Danny: because they're Indian, they're clearly going to be horrible, 511 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,480 Danny: smelly people. Horrible things to say. 512 00:36:18,340 --> 00:36:22,180 Danny: And it took me a while, you know, when I was like a late teen, 513 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,480 Danny: early, like a man in my early 20s, to really get away from all that. 514 00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:30,920 Danny: And when I moved away, I moved away from Scotland to work in England and that's 515 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,240 Danny: when I really started to get a broader view of the world, thankfully. 516 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,680 Danny: And I was sat beside her, I got placed to sit beside her at school at my primary 517 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,880 Danny: school by a teacher and she wasn't smelly. 518 00:36:41,980 --> 00:36:44,920 Danny: She wasn't a horrible person. She was a lovely little girl that just wanted 519 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,320 Danny: to be liked by other kids in the classroom. 520 00:36:48,340 --> 00:36:50,620 Danny: So I feel the advice not to, you know, 521 00:36:51,340 --> 00:36:54,480 Danny: to steer clear of these people because 522 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,580 Danny: they're not us they're not like us they're gonna be horrible i think 523 00:36:57,580 --> 00:37:00,300 Danny: that was really bad for want of a 524 00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:03,400 Danny: simplistic term that was bad advice but it was ignorant advice obviously 525 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:09,880 Danny: and i'm i'm i'm always like sorry that i listened to that um because i didn't 526 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,840 Danny: know any better as a kid and it took me a few years to get over that and understand 527 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,760 Danny: they were completely wrong and because of that i then started to have a very 528 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,740 Danny: difficult relationship it with my family and their points of view. 529 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,600 Danny: So I would say probably that actually. 530 00:37:22,860 --> 00:37:29,700 Susan: It's interesting that it took a trip to another place that was different from 531 00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:33,180 Susan: where you were from to sort of help shake that loose. 532 00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:39,440 Susan: I think that that is such a great illustration of why travel is so important 533 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:44,920 Susan: because the more places you go, the more you realize A, 534 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,560 Susan: our similarities regardless of our differences, but B, 535 00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:53,180 Susan: that the things that make us different are also the things that make us exciting 536 00:37:53,180 --> 00:37:55,960 Susan: and interesting and special and unique and fun. 537 00:37:56,300 --> 00:38:03,280 Susan: So I think your story is certainly a tribute to the power of travel. 538 00:38:03,740 --> 00:38:06,120 Danny: Oh, 100%. And like I said, I mean, it's, 539 00:38:06,750 --> 00:38:11,190 Danny: I feel that a lot of that was maybe generational. They're very typical. 540 00:38:11,550 --> 00:38:15,330 Danny: And I say this as a Scotsman myself. So that generation, my grandad anyway, 541 00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:20,050 Danny: my dad or stepdad, was very much typical of Scotsmen at that time. 542 00:38:20,210 --> 00:38:23,070 Danny: This was like we're talking mid-80s, like late 70s, mid-80s. 543 00:38:23,850 --> 00:38:29,830 Danny: So, yeah, and travel was so key. It's like my first guest on this new season, 544 00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:35,330 Danny: Keisha TK Dutas, who I believe, you know, she mentioned that about travel and, 545 00:38:35,330 --> 00:38:40,050 Danny: you know, stereotypical, you know, people thinking that certain cultures don't 546 00:38:40,050 --> 00:38:42,930 Danny: travel when they do. So, yeah, I rambled there. I apologize. 547 00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:45,350 Danny: Great question. I appreciate you asking that, Susan. 548 00:38:45,770 --> 00:38:49,650 Susan: Well, it was my pleasure to put you on the spot since I've been on the spot 549 00:38:49,650 --> 00:38:51,150 Susan: for this whole conversation. 550 00:38:51,810 --> 00:38:56,430 Danny: It's only fair. It's only fair. So, as I mentioned, I mean, I've really enjoyed 551 00:38:56,430 --> 00:38:58,810 Danny: chatting to you and getting to know you and hearing your answers today. 552 00:38:58,930 --> 00:39:02,050 Danny: So I appreciate that. Thank you for bringing them and sharing that with us. 553 00:39:02,050 --> 00:39:07,330 Danny: For our listeners that want to, you know, learn about you, what you do in the 554 00:39:07,330 --> 00:39:10,730 Danny: industry, you know, listen to your podcast, check out all the cool things you 555 00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:14,570 Danny: do, or maybe even sneak us a few nifty dollars to buy some of your husband's art. 556 00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:17,210 Danny: Where's the best place to connect and listen and etc? 557 00:39:17,570 --> 00:39:24,530 Susan: Well, my podcast is called Top Floor and the website is topfloorpodcast.com. 558 00:39:25,370 --> 00:39:32,310 Susan: The Instagram handle for Top Floor is topfloorpod. And then I spend a lot of 559 00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:38,310 Susan: time running my mouth and sharing my unsolicited opinion on LinkedIn. 560 00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:45,050 Susan: And so you can find me. I'm Susan Barry on LinkedIn and Top Floor is also on 561 00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:48,090 Susan: LinkedIn with pretty frequently updated content. 562 00:39:48,330 --> 00:39:52,990 Susan: So we'd love to see and hear listeners anywhere I can. 563 00:39:53,630 --> 00:39:56,270 Danny: Awesome. And I will be sure, as always, to leave links to those in the show 564 00:39:56,270 --> 00:39:59,390 Danny: notes. So whatever app you're listening to this episode on or you're listening 565 00:39:59,390 --> 00:40:02,450 Danny: on the website, just check the show notes out and all the links will be there 566 00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:04,030 Danny: for the good stuff to take you over to Susan. 567 00:40:04,370 --> 00:40:08,590 Danny: So again, Susan, thanks so much for appearing on today's 5 Random Questions. 568 00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:11,130 Susan: Oh, this is so much fun. Thanks for having me. 569 00:40:12,570 --> 00:40:15,930 Danny: Thanks for listening to 5 Random Questions. 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