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Speaker AToday we're gonna do some deep work today, and today we're gonna talk about how to have disagreements without damaging relationships.
Speaker AYou know, we're living in a time where it seems like so many people are living on hypersensitive and any form of a disagreement with them, it just derails relationships and sometimes even ends relationships that never get repaired.
Speaker AWhen you allow that to happen in life, all you're doing is costing yourself relationships and people who are meant to be within your life.
Speaker AOur goal when we have disagreements with people is never about trying to win an argument, but rather about maintaining a healthy relationship and keeping an open mind and open door that it's okay to have varying opinions.
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Speaker AHey, what's up, champions?
Speaker AThis is your host, Neal Reyes, and I want to welcome you back to The Executive Perspective.
Speaker AToday I'm going to be speaking with you about how to disagree without damning relationships.
Speaker AYou know, it is so important in life to be able to have what I refer to as healthy discourse, which we'll talk about later.
Speaker ABut it's important to understand that when we're in relationships with others, whether it's very close relationships like within marriage, or whether if it's with our siblings or children, or most oftentimes it's the co workers that we spend time with, it's okay to disagree.
Speaker AIn life.
Speaker AHowever, there's a right or positive way and wrong or negative way to be able to disagree with others.
Speaker AAnd I will tell you that when you learn to disagree with people in a positive way, you can learn to disagree without damaging any of your relationships.
Speaker ABut if you allow your emotions to rule the day and you feel like you have to win every argument, you're going to find yourself damaging the relationships that mean the most to you, the relationships that are the closest to you, and the relationships that in life you need the most.
Speaker ADisagreement doesn't equal disrespect.
Speaker AI think that's a real important topic for us to open up with or point for us to open up with today.
Speaker ADisagreement doesn't equal disrespect.
Speaker AYou know, so many times in life when people come to the table and I say to the table, but really they come to a conversation, they feel like as if they have to almost prove that their way of thinking or their opinions on the matter are the most important thing and have to rule the day.
Speaker AYou know, here on this podcast on the Executive Perspective, we've had other podcasts where we've talked about that when you learn to leave your ego outside the room or outside the conversation, conversations begin to become smoother.
Speaker AAnd the main reason why is because when your ego is left out of the equation, when you speak and have disagreements with others, you're never having to defend your identity.
Speaker AIn other words, if you remove your identity from that situation, you're not having to argue from a place of defending your opinions or your choices or why you feel or believe a certain way.
Speaker AYou know, here in the executive perspective, we focus on three main areas.
Speaker AOn this podcast, we focus on leadership, business strategy, and personal development.
Speaker AAnd I mention that in every episode we do.
Speaker AAnd when we talk about how to have disagreements without damaging relationships, that transcends across all three of those topics.
Speaker ABut it also works in every area of your life.
Speaker AYou know, I'm so passionate about this thing in leadership and business strategy and personal development that I know that for high achievers and higher performers that basically touches every area of your life.
Speaker AAnd it is so important to understand, especially living in a day and time where we are now.
Speaker AAnd I'm based out of Texas, I'm in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex.
Speaker ABut if you're in the United States or even if you're in other countries, I have a lot of friends that are based across the pond in the UK and other countries.
Speaker AAnd I will tell you, it seems like the political climates and different things are just on hypersensitive mode across the world.
Speaker AFor me, that's a dividing spirit.
Speaker AThat's crossing the land.
Speaker AIt's something that I believe from my ministry background.
Speaker ABut I can also, if I were given a Bible study, I could break that down for you.
Speaker ABut while this isn't a Bible study, I teach everything about leadership, business strategy and personal development with a godly undertone, because God is the center at everything I do.
Speaker AAnd I want to tell you that we're living in a time and age where so many people get offended so quickly and so easily that relationships that mean the most to them or should are being voided and canceled.
Speaker AAnd some of the most people who are the most special to you or should be the special to you, so many people don't even talk to them anymore because they can't learn how to disagree in a healthy manner.
Speaker AAnd because they haven't learned how to disagree in a healthy manner, they're allowing those feelings or those emotions to rob the day from them.
Speaker AThey're allowing those emotions to steal what matters most.
Speaker AYou know, my greatest passion in life is people.
Speaker AI desire to help people.
Speaker AThat's who I'm passionate about.
Speaker AAll kinds of people.
Speaker ANot just a certain set of people, but people, just people in general.
Speaker AAnd when I see that we're living in a time where people have such a hard time communicating with each other because the moment they cross the line of disagreement, they'll just absolutely abscond from even having any kind of a relationship with that other party.
Speaker AThat is so damaging, but it's also so sad.
Speaker AThe other thing I'm going to tell you is that if you're having disagreements with somebody, you know, there's a phrase out there that you don't win the war by winning every battle.
Speaker AYou know, when you're talking with someone, even if you really do know you're right about something, you don't have to prove you're right in order to win that conversation.
Speaker AIn fact, I'm going To tell you that oftentimes the cost of winning an argument is oftentimes hurt feelings, setbacks in relationships, or sometimes the cancellation of avoidance of relationships all the way across, meaning that those relationships cease to exist or at least cease to exist in that same manner going forward.
Speaker AThis happens on personal levels within marriages.
Speaker AIt happens within families, whether if it's among siblings or whether if it's among, you know, parents and their children, or parents and grand grandparents or, you know, children or grandchildren and grandparents at the same time.
Speaker AIt also happens often and frequent at the office.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to tell you that that should not be how people live life.
Speaker ANot only does that make you unproductive, but that doesn't add any value to you in life.
Speaker AIn fact, I'm going to tell you it probably steals and robs from you.
Speaker AI don't think that that adds any kind of value that enriches life or fulfillment or joy or happiness.
Speaker AAnd if it's not doing those things, and it's probably not adding years to your life, it's probably adding things like stress, pressure, animosity, anger, malice.
Speaker AAnd those things, those are emotions that can cause you to lose years on your life, but also lose things like happiness and joy.
Speaker AIt can also zap your energy.
Speaker AYou know, you can challenge someone's ideas without attacking their identity.
Speaker AI think that's so important to discuss because so many times in life, and especially nowadays, it seems like as if you turn around and have a disagreement with someone so many times, the reason why disagreements get derailed or fall off track.
Speaker AI sometimes use the phrase of the wheels falling off the bus.
Speaker APicture a bus going down the road and the wheels falling off it.
Speaker AThat's going to be an ugly wreck right there.
Speaker ABut the reason why the wheels fall off the bus sometimes is because when people come into disagreements, they make it personal.
Speaker AIn other words, they go after the identity or the character of the person rather than the merits of the conversation of what it is they're actually talking about.
Speaker ANow I'm going to tell you that I heard from a gentleman named Kenneth Hagin many years ago.
Speaker AHe's not alive anymore.
Speaker AHe's a pastor who used to leave.
Speaker AHe actually founded Rhema Bible College, if you've never heard of it.
Speaker ABut this gentleman had what I feel is words of wisdom.
Speaker AI've never heard anyone else say anything similar to this.
Speaker AAnd he may be the one that founded it, or he found it from someone else and just picked up and started saying it on his own, but he would say that on every conversation or on every disagreement, there's usually three sides to every story.
Speaker AThere's their side, there's your side.
Speaker AAnd then the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
Speaker AIt might be closer to them, might be closer to you, but the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to tell you, the best way to get over disagreements and to make sure that they don't damage relationships is to have an open mind, to be able to be willing to listen, admit when you're wrong.
Speaker AAnd words like.
Speaker AAnd I mean heartfelt words.
Speaker ANot just empty words, but heartfelt words and phrases like, I'm sorry, please forgive me, you matter more to me, things like that, those will go a long way in helping when you have disagreements.
Speaker AAnd I will tell you that even if you're not in the wrong or you don't feel like you're in the wrong, remember the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Speaker ABeing willing to acknowledge that there's another side or another viewpoint in that situation and that even though you may not agree with it doesn't mean that it's wrong.
Speaker ABeing able to be mature enough in relationships like that will help you to have disagreements without damaging personal relationships.
Speaker AYou know, respectful disagreement can often lead to deeper understanding and stronger bonds.
Speaker AStronger bonds with who?
Speaker AWell, stronger bonds with that person.
Speaker AYou know, I can think of times where I've had disagreements with people within my own life, and sometimes the disagreements weren't because we were arguing over who was right and who was wrong.
Speaker AIf I'm being honest with you, just being transparent, sometimes it was because I said something that maybe I thought was going to be funny, and when it came out, it wasn't funny, it actually came out as offensive or hurtful towards that person.
Speaker AOr maybe when I said something, maybe I wasn't trying to be funny at all, but when I said something, I used a tone that was firmer than I meant to, and the way that person received that was like I was being harsh with them.
Speaker AI will tell you that if you've done that, there's always a way to walk that back.
Speaker ABut it starts with genuine character and willing to admit you made a mistake.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to tell you, saying sorry is not always the easiest thing.
Speaker ABut if you learn how to do it from a place of remorse within your heart, meaning that you truly do regret that you did that and you truly are sorry, then even though they may not forgive you in that minute, they're going to recognize you were genuine about what you said.
Speaker ANow, depending what you told them, you may have fired them up pretty good.
Speaker ASo if you do, then you need to also give them time to cool down in their own way.
Speaker ASometimes that comes with space.
Speaker ABut just because you need to give space in the moment doesn't mean you should leave a void in the relationship where you don't come back together.
Speaker ADon't ever let pride be your motivation for not repairing a relationship.
Speaker AI'm going to say that again.
Speaker ADon't ever let pride be your motivation for not repairing a relationship.
Speaker AIf you allowed pride at the table, I'm going to tell you that the costs with pride are always higher than what you're willing to pay.
Speaker ANow, that brings us to our first leadership truth bomb of the day.
Speaker ADisagreeing with you doesn't mean I'm against you.
Speaker AI'm going to say that again.
Speaker ADisagreeing with you doesn't mean I'm against you.
Speaker AAnd I will tell you that when you learn to take this type of behavior towards others and you learn to walk in love as you do, that it doesn't mean I'm against you when I disagree with you.
Speaker ABut at the same time, it's like a mirror.
Speaker AIf someone is not against you, then you can't be against them.
Speaker AIn other words, in that statement, I just said, if what I'm telling another person is, hey, disagreeing with you doesn't mean I'm against you, then you need to also understand that when they disagree with you, they're not against you either.
Speaker AThey just have a difference of opinion.
Speaker AAnd there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker AEmotions are signals.
Speaker AThey're not drivers.
Speaker AI'm going to say that again.
Speaker AEmotions are signals.
Speaker AThey're not drivers.
Speaker AWhen I say they're signals, consider yourself like driving down the road.
Speaker AAnd if you're driving down the road, you're navigating life.
Speaker AThat's you in the car and you're navigating life.
Speaker AAnd when you have certain emotions, those emotions are like signals on the road.
Speaker ASometimes it's a red light, meaning you better stop.
Speaker AIf you run the red light, something bad can happen.
Speaker AYou're either going to get a potentially a ticket or you might even get in an accident, but you're breaking the law and you're going to do something that you don't want to do because it was an unattended consequence.
Speaker AOther times you have yellow that pops up, which means caution, or slow down.
Speaker AAnd then you have green that means, punch that pedal, buddy.
Speaker AIt's time to get going.
Speaker ABut you know, there's different signs, but there's the other signs or signals on the road as well.
Speaker AYou have yield signs, you have stop signs, you have speed limit signs which tell you when it's appropriate to go fast or slow on a road.
Speaker ASometimes the speed limit knows more than you do because there's windy roads.
Speaker AAnd maybe you have a nice car that feels good to take on the corners, but that doesn't mean that you know how to drive on those corners.
Speaker AAnd so sometimes you need to pay attention to those signals.
Speaker AYou need to pay attention to understand that at the same time, emotions are natural in disagreement.
Speaker AI want you to understand that when you have disagreements, it's natural to understand that there's emotions involved in disagreement, but they shouldn't be in control.
Speaker AThis is so important right here.
Speaker AEmotions are natural in disagreement.
Speaker AIf someone has a disagreement but they feel strongly about what happened because you had strong emotions tied to that disagreement, or if the person who is in disagreement with you had strong emotions tied to that, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker AIt's natural to have emotions, and sometimes strong emotions show up in disagreements.
Speaker ABut your emotions should never be in control.
Speaker AYou know, I'm going to tell you that you should never be led by your emotions.
Speaker AAnd if you allow your emotions to rule the day and to dictate where you go or how you act or how you behave or how you react to something, I'm going to tell you that those are very, very negative things and emotions can lead you astray.
Speaker AWhen emotions run the room, reason gets shut out.
Speaker AI'm going to say that again because that's so strong to be able to reference.
Speaker AWhen emotions run the room, reasons get shut out.
Speaker AYou know, this is significant right here, because if you allow emotions like, let's say you walk into a conversation and there's a group of people in there, if everyone shows up with their emotions and they allow their emotions to run that room or that conversation, man, if you do that, reason's going to get shut out.
Speaker AReason's not going to be allowed to come to the table and be able to talk or speak because everybody's focused on their emotions.
Speaker AThey're feeling whether they're angry emotions, whether they're mad or frustrated emotions, whether they're upset or they're bitter, or if they have things like animosity because they haven't been letting go of things like they should.
Speaker AAnd over time, things have built up and built up and built up, and now that person's filled with so much pressure of animosity inside, they're like a volcano.
Speaker AThey're about to explode.
Speaker AWith all of this pent up pressure and animosity that's been in them that they haven't dealt with successfully, those are things that you got to be cautious about allowing to come to the table because those things can ruin your life and they can ruin relationships.
Speaker AAnd here's our next leadership truth bomb of the day.
Speaker AYou can feel strongly without having to speak harshly.
Speaker AI'm going to say that again.
Speaker AWhen you're talking with someone, you can speak strongly without having to speak harshly.
Speaker AAll right, let me say that a little differently.
Speaker AYou can feel strongly.
Speaker AIn other words, you can be passionate about something, you can have strong emotions or feelings about something.
Speaker ABut just because you feel strong about something doesn't mean you have to speak harshly towards people.
Speaker AI'm going to say that one more time because I think this is sticky, but this is where a lot of people also get stuck.
Speaker ABut when I say this is sticky, this is something that can stay with you and you need to, because it'll help you.
Speaker AYou can feel strongly without speaking harshly.
Speaker ANow our third point that we have for today and the next thing I want to speak with you about is to seek understanding, not victory, man.
Speaker AThat's a big one right there.
Speaker ASeek understanding, not victory, man.
Speaker AWhen we talk about seeking understanding, but not victory.
Speaker AYou know, I said earlier towards the beginning of this podcast that you don't win the war by winning every battle.
Speaker AYou know, sometimes you have to learn how to seek understanding in a situation, not victory.
Speaker AIn other words, when you're showing up to a conversation and there's difference of opinions between you and others, your job in that conversation is not to see who wins.
Speaker AIt's not about who's right.
Speaker AIt's about finding common ground of understanding.
Speaker AThat's why you have to learn how to seek understanding.
Speaker AA disagreement shouldn't become a debate you're trying to win.
Speaker AI'm going to say that because that means so much right there.
Speaker AYou know, so many people show up to conversations.
Speaker AAnd I'm just going to tell you it's rare that I think that people show up to conversations knowing there's a disagreement before you even speak.
Speaker AAnd I say that, but maybe that's not fully accurate.
Speaker AI guess what I made me should say in a better way is, you know, sometimes when you go and speak to someone or people go and speak to you, they already know you're going to disagree.
Speaker AI'm not going to say that.
Speaker AThat doesn't exist.
Speaker AHowever, if you already know you're going to go speak with someone and you're already got some emotions tied up in that thing, and you're pretty hot over that situation, and you can't wait to have that disagreement, then your mindset and your heart is not in the right place.
Speaker AYou need to step back from that situation.
Speaker AYou need to be able to allow those emotions to cool.
Speaker AAnd you shouldn't even be having that conversation until you can approach it without emotion at all.
Speaker AAnd if you have those strong emotions and you're ready for the argument, you're not ready for anything productive, and you're not ready for a meaningful conversation.
Speaker AYou know, when you show up and you have disagreements, those disagreements should never become a debate that you're trying to win.
Speaker AThere's no prizes at the other side of that.
Speaker AThere's no award money, there's no medal or there's no ribbon that you're going to get for winning the debate.
Speaker AWhen you have debates with people and your focus is to win, you may think you've won when you walk away from that conversation.
Speaker ABut at the end of the day, there was a cost.
Speaker AAnd you might know it then, or you might not recognize it till later, but there's always a cost to pay when your goal is to win every argument.
Speaker ARather than finding a common place of simply understanding mature individuals and mature relationships, seek understanding, not victory.
Speaker ANow, learn to do these things.
Speaker AAnd this can help you navigate when you have disagreements with others.
Speaker AAnd this is so important because again, today we're talking about how to disagree without damaging relationships.
Speaker AWhen you encounter conversations but you're starting to have a disagreement with somebody, learn to do these things.
Speaker ALearn to ask questions.
Speaker AWhen you ask questions, questions, especially the right ones, can help bring clarity.
Speaker AAlso, learn to listen more than you speak.
Speaker AYou know, God has given every person in this world two ears and one mouth.
Speaker AThat means you've been designed to listen twice as much as you're speaking.
Speaker AWhen it's talking with others.
Speaker AThe other thing is learn to honor another person's perspective.
Speaker AWhen you learn how to honor how other people view a situation, even when it's not the way you made me view it, I'm going to tell you, you'll gain respect within their eyes, and they'll understand that you're the type of person that they can have a productive and meaningful conversation with, because they're not always on guard about who has to win or who has to prove they were right or why they were wrong.
Speaker AAnd when you're able to do those things and you're able to show honor towards others, well, every seed in life produces after its own kind.
Speaker AYou know, nobody walks out into their front yard, and if they decide to plant a tree, and let's say they decide they want a fruit tree, and for whatever reason they want in their front yard, not the backyard.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AYou know, if they want an orange tree, they don't go plant avocado seeds.
Speaker ABecause when that tree grows up and gets mature and starts to produce its fruit, and you walk outside and you're like, avocados.
Speaker AWhere'd these come from?
Speaker AI wanted an orange tree.
Speaker AWell, every seed produces after its own kind.
Speaker AAnd what you want is an outcome of oranges.
Speaker AThen you need to plant orange seeds, not avocado seeds.
Speaker AMan, this speaks, and this is a big one right here.
Speaker ASeed will always produce after its own kind.
Speaker ASo if you want to have healthy relationships, when you're having those conversations and they turn to disagreements, you need to make sure you're sowing the right kind of seed.
Speaker ANow, this brings us to our third leadership truth bomb of the day.
Speaker AHealthy discourse is about clarity.
Speaker AIt's not about conquest.
Speaker AOh, that speaks right there.
Speaker AI'm going to say that again.
Speaker AHealthy discourse is about clarity, not conquest.
Speaker AYou know, when I talk about healthy discourse, you know, healthy discourse is when you can have a conversation with somebody, and even though you're not agreeing, you're okay to still be able to speak with each other.
Speaker AIt's not about conquest.
Speaker AIt's not about trying to conquer another person.
Speaker AIt's about simply having a healthy difference of opinions with each other, but being able to articulate yourself in a way that you're able to convey what your thoughts are on a situation.
Speaker AAlso why maybe you have experience or history to back your viewpoints, but also being open to new understanding, to being open to their viewpoints or their experience or their general feelings about something.
Speaker AAnd then when you do that, the two of you can come together and seek healthy ground to maybe find a new and better way of doing it.
Speaker AAnd when you do that, not only are your relationships better at the end of the day, but you've now added to your understanding and you added to your growing, because you now know a new way to do it even better than before.
Speaker AAnd now the next time you approach a disagreement with somebody, now you have more than one way to possibly solve it, because you grew from that situation.
Speaker ANow, that brings us to our fourth point of the day.
Speaker APreserve the relationship.
Speaker ASo what I'm going to tell you is when you're working with someone or you're talking with someone, if you have any kind of a Disagreement.
Speaker AWork toward preserving the relationship, even if you can't reach an agreement.
Speaker AMan, that's so important right there.
Speaker ABecause if you know you're at an impasse where you're not going to see things their way and they're not going to see things your way, then your only goal in that situation is to preserve the relationship you have.
Speaker AAnd if you learn to preserve the relationship you have, you don't have to be focused anymore about reaching an agreement, because your only goal is to make sure that your relationship stays intact.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to tell you that if you do that, in the long run, it'll be healthier for you and they'll know they can trust you to listen to them, even when they don't know if you're going to agree with them.
Speaker AYou know, not every disagreement has to be resolved.
Speaker AWhen you're speaking with someone, when you're talking with someone and you have a disagreement, it's okay to part ways not having resolved the disagreement.
Speaker ABut understand that every person should leave the conversation respected.
Speaker AIn other words, when they leave that conversation, even if you weren't able to resolve the issue you were having, they should still be able to leave there and feel respected because you were respectful toward them.
Speaker AMake the goal to walk away with the relationship intact, even if your opinions differ.
Speaker AI'm going to say that again, your goal should not be to win, but that when you walk away from a disagreement, your relationship is still intact, even if you don't agree with each other.
Speaker AYour relationship is still in a healthy place where you still care about each other and you still value each other, even if your opinions differ or if they're different than what you believe.
Speaker AAnd then the fourth and final truth bomb that I have for you today, this is our leadership truth bomb, is that if agreement is the cost of the relationship, then your price is too high.
Speaker AOh, I'm going to say that again, because there's a lot of weight in that.
Speaker AIf your agreement is the cost of the relationship, your price is too high.
Speaker AWhat do I mean by that?
Speaker AWell, if where you're at is in a relationship with someone where the cost of the relationship means you always have to agree with them, but I'm going to point it more towards you because as high performers, we always look at ourselves first.
Speaker AIf the cost of having a relationship with you is that others always have to agree with you, and if they don't agree with you, then there is no relationship, then your price for your relationship or to have a relationship with you, it's too expensive and it's too high.
Speaker AMan, that's powerful right there, guys, as we wrap up today, I want to encourage you to swing by our website@neal Reyes.com where you can connect with all of our teaching resources.
Speaker AAnd before I let you go, I want to make sure you hear it from me today that I believe in you, champion.
Speaker AI believe you've got greatness on the inside of you.
Speaker AYou just need to continue to cultivate it, grow it and develop it, and bring it on the outside so others can see.
Speaker AThank you for joining me and growing me today, and have a blessed day.