Welcome to this week's episode of Creative
Speaker:Passion to Profit, and in today's podcast
Speaker:episode, I'm gonna be diving into the world
Speaker:of social enterprises.
Speaker:Now before you switch off, thinking this is all
Speaker:about fluffy feelings, charity, tea dances, and
Speaker:about doing good stuff.
Speaker:Just hold on a minute.
Speaker:I'm gonna be talking about businesses.
Speaker:Yeah, businesses that make money IE
Speaker:profits and actually make a difference.
Speaker:So grab yourself a drink of choice.
Speaker:Put on those headphones if you're out running.
Speaker:Keep those hands on the steering wall
Speaker:if you're driving.
Speaker:And let's crack off.
Speaker:Now, did you know there are over a hundred
Speaker:thousand plus social enterprises in the
Speaker:United Kingdom alone?
Speaker:They contribute humongous amounts of
Speaker:money to the economy.
Speaker:They employ an immense amount of people here,
Speaker:and they are sectors, they are businesses in
Speaker:their own right from generating several
Speaker:thousand to several million pounds worth
Speaker:of profit and turnover.
Speaker:That's not a small change, that's an immense
Speaker:impact that's being made.
Speaker:So yes, social enterprises do matter
Speaker:both financially, socially, and
Speaker:economically.
Speaker:Now, in today's episode, I'm gonna be focusing on
Speaker:understanding what social enterprises actually are.
Speaker:How they differ from traditional businesses
Speaker:or charities for that matter, and the types
Speaker:of business models and legal structures
Speaker:that exist that you may wish to adopt.
Speaker:Now, this episode is essential if you're
Speaker:thinking of starting one, working for one,
Speaker:or advising one, and I've been very fortunate
Speaker:in my 30 years plus in business of working
Speaker:with organizations of various types from
Speaker:social enterprise.
Speaker:To charities, to private businesses as well.
Speaker:Now, firstly, what is a social enterprise?
Speaker:It's very often misunderstood.
Speaker:It's not just about being good and
Speaker:doing good stuff.
Speaker:It's a business that exists to solve a social
Speaker:or an environmental or a community problem.
Speaker:I. While at the same time making money, those
Speaker:two go hand in hand.
Speaker:Yes, it makes money and it's the profits that
Speaker:are generated that are there to support the
Speaker:mission, not just in somebody else's pocket.
Speaker:A bit like this, if a private business
Speaker:says How much profit can we make, A social
Speaker:enterprise will say.
Speaker:How much good can we do with the profits
Speaker:that we generate?
Speaker:Social enterprises sell goods and services just
Speaker:like any other business.
Speaker:They have the same challenges.
Speaker:They adopt business practices, but it's what
Speaker:they do with the money is where things change.
Speaker:Profits are reinvested into their calls, whether
Speaker:that is supporting vulnerable people
Speaker:protecting the planet.
Speaker:Or creating fair work and opportunities for others.
Speaker:Now, it's important to emphasize charities
Speaker:are not necessarily social enterprises.
Speaker:Charities, a great deal of them will
Speaker:rely predominantly on donations or
Speaker:grants to operate.
Speaker:They don't necessarily, all of them operate
Speaker:commercially.
Speaker:But they operate in ethical lines.
Speaker:The monies that they generate are going
Speaker:towards a charitable purpose here, but
Speaker:a charity is not necessarily a social
Speaker:enterprise, and a social enterprise is not
Speaker:necessarily a charity.
Speaker:Let me have a look at the main models that
Speaker:are currently used in the United Kingdom.
Speaker:I. Model number one is a community
Speaker:interest company or a CIC for short.
Speaker:Now this is one of the most popular social
Speaker:enterprise models operating in the United
Speaker:Kingdom, and it's designed for businesses
Speaker:that wanna make a profit but use it for community.
Speaker:Good.
Speaker:I've personally seen a growth in the use
Speaker:of CICS over the last 10, 15 years.
Speaker:They still represent a small proportion of the
Speaker:overall companies that are incorporating the
Speaker:United Kingdom, but they are a growing model.
Speaker:Now these are designed for businesses that
Speaker:make profits, wanna make a profit and
Speaker:should be making a profit, but use those
Speaker:profits of community.
Speaker:Good.
Speaker:So what makes a CIC different?
Speaker:Well, from the beginning, when you create A CIC,
Speaker:you have to show a clear community purpose.
Speaker:You have to file a community interest
Speaker:statement when you register and you commit
Speaker:to something called an asset lock, meaning those
Speaker:assets and profits that the organization has.
Speaker:Must go to another beneficiary organization.
Speaker:Those assets and resources are not to
Speaker:be used for the benefit of the individuals.
Speaker:If your CIC ceases to exist, then typically,
Speaker:and certainly what we would recommend is
Speaker:those assets that you built up go to another
Speaker:beneficiary organization, but the resources are
Speaker:there for the benefit of the community.
Speaker:Not for the individuals who run the CIC.
Speaker:Now in itself there are two types of cis.
Speaker:You will encounter more of this in next
Speaker:week's podcast, but for now, lemme give
Speaker:you a brief overview.
Speaker:You either have a CIC that's limited by
Speaker:guarantee, or you have a CIC that's limited
Speaker:by shares, which means you can attract private
Speaker:investment and that means it's possible
Speaker:to distribute profits by way of dividends.
Speaker:To those individual investors or
Speaker:corporate investors.
Speaker:A CIC is a bit of a hybrid, a halfway house
Speaker:between a charity and a private company.
Speaker:It's not unusual, by the way, for a charity to
Speaker:actually have a separate subsidiary or an entity
Speaker:that's constituted as a CIC to run their trading
Speaker:commercial activities.
Speaker:Risk taking is permitted without putting the
Speaker:charity assets at risk.
Speaker:The second model is the cooperative model.
Speaker:And again, I've seen a growth in the cooperative
Speaker:model over time, and this model puts power in the
Speaker:hands of its members, not just an individual
Speaker:group of directors or the boardroom.
Speaker:It's based on democracy and equality.
Speaker:Each member has a say as to how those profits are
Speaker:distributed and shared.
Speaker:Members can be staff, customers,
Speaker:or the community.
Speaker:Those popular example of a cooperative society,
Speaker:surprising enough is the co-op supermarket,
Speaker:fair Trade businesses, energy cooperatives,
Speaker:community pumps.
Speaker:They all follow these rules, and the core
Speaker:principles are one member, one vote,
Speaker:shared ownership, and collective benefit.
Speaker:It's perfect if you want that idea of
Speaker:shared control and a strong ethical backbone.
Speaker:Another model is the Community
Speaker:Benefit Society.
Speaker:It's a type of industrial providence
Speaker:society or an IPS.
Speaker:An IPS or Community Benefit Society is
Speaker:regulated by the financial conduct
Speaker:authority, not company's house, which is the
Speaker:regulator for most corporate bodies.
Speaker:Now, a community benefits company.
Speaker:Can raise money through community shares,
Speaker:apply for charity like tax benefits.
Speaker:Typically, it can be exempt from corporation
Speaker:tax on any surplus that are generated.
Speaker:And it embeds this idea of community democracy
Speaker:in its structure.
Speaker:So if you're thinking of setting up a shop in of
Speaker:your village, your town.
Speaker:A renewable energy project or a sports
Speaker:club, then this model might be ideal for you.
Speaker:Now, one other model I need to mention here
Speaker:is a private company itself can actually be
Speaker:a social enterprise.
Speaker:You don't actually have to be A-C-I-C-A
Speaker:charity or a co-op to be a social enterprise.
Speaker:Even a standard limited company can be one, but
Speaker:it's the commitment, not just words for
Speaker:the sake of it.
Speaker:Where it commits to social aims and reinvest
Speaker:the profits accordingly.
Speaker:You need to have a clear mission statement at
Speaker:ethical practices and a transparent way of
Speaker:showing what you do.
Speaker:Now, private companies in themselves, lots of
Speaker:people use that phase where you know, we
Speaker:have good intentions.
Speaker:I. We are social enterprise in nature,
Speaker:but you actually have to show and demonstrate
Speaker:a proportion of those profits are going
Speaker:towards social good.
Speaker:You need to build trust with funders
Speaker:and audiences.
Speaker:There's no asset lock or legal obligation
Speaker:to reinvest profits unless you say so.
Speaker:My personal preference is.
Speaker:Is that if you are taking social enterprise
Speaker:seriously, then do not do a private company.
Speaker:Now, there is also the idea of A CIO, all these
Speaker:acronyms floating around a charitable incorporated
Speaker:organization.
Speaker:Now, a charitable organization has the
Speaker:benefit of any accounts that are submitted.
Speaker:Only go to the Charity Commission as opposed
Speaker:to a lot of charity companies will submit
Speaker:documents and accounts to company's house
Speaker:as well as two.
Speaker:The Charity Commission itself, one filing is all
Speaker:that's needed now, the CIO is a structure that's
Speaker:only for charities.
Speaker:It's regulated by the Charity Commission.
Speaker:It gives that legal status, limited
Speaker:liability, the ability to access things like
Speaker:gift aid, business rates, relief.
Speaker:Profits if they're used for charitable
Speaker:purposes are exempt.
Speaker:Now, this is a more complex model in
Speaker:the sense of the time it takes to
Speaker:get incorporated.
Speaker:There's a much longer lead time
Speaker:between submitting an application and getting
Speaker:that charity status.
Speaker:There's more obligations placed on the
Speaker:individual trustees and directors compared
Speaker:to other social models that we've outlined.
Speaker:You've got her charitable aims, public
Speaker:benefit, and trustees.
Speaker:You can't just set one up willy-nilly overnight
Speaker:and the time taken.
Speaker:Can range anything from a few weeks to several
Speaker:months between submitting the application and
Speaker:getting approval.
Speaker:Now, how do you decide which model
Speaker:you should choose?
Speaker:Now, for me, it's this idea of substance
Speaker:follows form.
Speaker:You always have got to consider what you
Speaker:are planning to do.
Speaker:Start with your purposes, what your objectives
Speaker:are over say the next two or three years,
Speaker:what's your main goal?
Speaker:Who are you helping?
Speaker:How are you gonna raise money?
Speaker:Do you want outside investment?
Speaker:Do you want restrictions placed on you
Speaker:and your fellow?
Speaker:Trustees have a business and a financial
Speaker:activity plan and then decide the structure
Speaker:that best suits.
Speaker:Now, it's not unusual, by the way.
Speaker:If you think charitable status is your long-term
Speaker:goal, you might set up a CIC to begin with,
Speaker:and then you can convert that to a charity down
Speaker:the line, get the model role, and that might
Speaker:deny you opportunities.
Speaker:It might have an impact on tax.
Speaker:And it might have an impact on accessing
Speaker:funding and other such matters as well.
Speaker:Now, social enterprises are not soft,
Speaker:fluffy, or weak.
Speaker:They are businesses.
Speaker:Their objective is to make profits, but it's
Speaker:what those profits are used for that
Speaker:differentiates them from their private sector.
Speaker:Cousins, they're smart.
Speaker:Impactful and essential.
Speaker:They run schools, they create jobs, they
Speaker:build communities.
Speaker:They clean oceans.
Speaker:They have an environmental impact,
Speaker:and yes, they pay wages, they file
Speaker:taxes, and they grow.
Speaker:Now, whatever your choice is, what matters
Speaker:fundamentally is your mission and how you
Speaker:use those profits.
Speaker:So if you are ready to blend purpose
Speaker:with profit, a social enterprise model
Speaker:could be for you.
Speaker:Now, final thought, if you are running
Speaker:or planning a social enterprise.
Speaker:Maybe you worked with one or want help
Speaker:with setting one up.
Speaker:Well speak to your advisor or speak to us.
Speaker:We have dealt with social enterprises for nearly
Speaker:three decades here.
Speaker:Check out the show notes, book a call.
Speaker:We'll help you choose the right structure,
Speaker:build a sustainable plan, and stay compliant
Speaker:while staying true to your mission.
Speaker:Until next week, folks, plan it,
Speaker:do it and profit.