Well, here we go again.
Speaker:I'm getting more episodes out.
Speaker:A lot has happened since I last published.
Speaker:So this is going to be fun to bring you up to speed.
Speaker:We'll start here with an episode that gets me back in the air after an 11.
Speaker:Year.
Speaker:Hiatus.
Speaker:I know it's inexcusable, but here I am.
Speaker:Enjoy episode 67.
Speaker:Here we go again.
Speaker:Welcome back SBC listeners.
Speaker:As I said in the intro, a lot of stuff has happened since we last spoke.
Speaker:So over the next few episodes, I am sure I'll get you up to speed.
Speaker:But for now, I'll just give you some of the basics.
Speaker:After 11 years, I thought it was time to get back in the cockpit as PIC.
Speaker:And then do some more training.
Speaker:So in early 2012, after having my private pilot license for almost four
Speaker:years and having a great time flying, I moved to San Diego with my family.
Speaker:I had to leave my awesome flight club when I did that here in Arizona.
Speaker:And then when I got to my new home near Carlsbad, California, I quickly
Speaker:joined, uh, another flight club there.
Speaker:I got checked out in a few of the airplanes in that club.
Speaker:But then my job got really, really demanding and I stopped flying for a while
Speaker:due to lack of time and funds and you know, all the reasons people stop flying.
Speaker:I also found that since I was covering all of Southern California for my work.
Speaker:That I was spending a lot of time on Southern Cal freeways.
Speaker:Instead of flying.
Speaker:, My family was having a great time at the beach and I was driving
Speaker:three hours to a customer meeting first thing in the morning.
Speaker:So, so yeah, that's when my hiatus from flying first started.
Speaker:And once you've stopped for a while and you let the skills deteriorate.
Speaker:It gets more and more daunting to get it going again.
Speaker:Two and a half years later, we moved back to Arizona and after a great
Speaker:time in, so Cal making lifelong friends and enjoying what must be the
Speaker:most amazing weather in the country.
Speaker:When we moved back, my sons were teenagers and we started spending all
Speaker:of our time and money on wakeboarding.
Speaker:Uh, boats, dirt bikes, RVs for going to the dunes, all kinds of awesome stuff.
Speaker:But all of that awesome stuff, still relegated, flying to the
Speaker:proverbial back-burner if you will.
Speaker:But it kept holding a huge place in my head.
Speaker:And in my heart.
Speaker:I know this is likely going to resonate with a lot of you out there.
Speaker:So you probably know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker:Well, I planned on getting back in the air a couple of years ago, and I even started
Speaker:releasing new episodes on the podcast.
Speaker:I took my boys who were then adults and our adults still,
Speaker:of course, to air venture.
Speaker:For the first time we did a bunch of features there.
Speaker:And then I was doing features on the podcast.
Speaker:I was interviewing a lot of folks who are involved in flight training before
Speaker:and after Oshkosh in one way or another.
Speaker:And one of my friends from years ago, I've known a long time who's
Speaker:a captain at a major airline, he started a flight school here locally
Speaker:with his wife a few years earlier.
Speaker:So I reached out to see if he'd come on the podcast and talk about the experience
Speaker:of running a flight school and what he was seeing in the industry, and so on.
Speaker:He agreed immediately, but our schedules never really aligned
Speaker:and it just didn't happen.
Speaker:For months, it didn't happen.
Speaker:And then something happened in my life.
Speaker:It was a catalyst and near the beginning of 2023, I had some major changes.
Speaker:And they happened all of a sudden I was working on my health at the time
Speaker:and my career and making decisions about my future, and I had a major
Speaker:change happen in my work and my career.
Speaker:I immediately decided it was time to jump back in and in a big way.
Speaker:And I also decided that I wanted to make aviation a big part of
Speaker:my future, not just my past.
Speaker:So I decided to start collecting ratings and certs at least to start with.
Speaker:But I had to start with just simply getting current and safe.
Speaker:So I went to see my friend at the flight school and he was
Speaker:thrilled for me and helped me get set up and start training again.
Speaker:I would definitely have some ups and downs as we do over the next 16 months
Speaker:or so, but I will say this, I've got a lot of content in the can, if you
Speaker:will ready to be edited and released.
Speaker:So rest assured.
Speaker:I'm sure we'll have another 15 years or so of the podcast
Speaker:with huge breaks in between.
Speaker:No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker:We're not going to do that.
Speaker:We're going to try not to do that.
Speaker:But I am ready to start bringing you all back up to speed and bringing some
Speaker:great training content back to you.
Speaker:Bringing you along with me through the ups and downs, the triumphs
Speaker:and the defeats, as I do, all the way back to where I am now.
Speaker:So, where am I now?
Speaker:Well, I'm still having ups and downs as we do.
Speaker:Still learning a ton and working my way through my own aviation journey.
Speaker:But what this means for you is that it's time to start bringing you
Speaker:with me again and today we start that with the first half of my first
Speaker:come-back flight with an instructor.
Speaker:Why only the first half?
Speaker:Well, It's because this is a really perishable skill we have here.
Speaker:And after 11 years, it had basically vanished quite a bit for me.
Speaker:So this flight was so full of relearning and discovery that as I started
Speaker:editing it and started listening to it again, I realized how much of the
Speaker:flight I really wanted to leave in.
Speaker:So you can come along with me while I reconnect a whole bunch of synapses in my
Speaker:brain that had been lost along the way.
Speaker:So to make this episode not be over an hour or two.
Speaker:I decided to break it up into two pieces.
Speaker:I'm sure that we'll be able to speed up the episodes a bit as I get back into the
Speaker:training and release a few more episodes, but for this one, man, I was rusty.
Speaker:But it was a blast.
Speaker:It was to get back up there.
Speaker:Back in the cockpit back in the air.
Speaker:I remembered immediately why aviation would never leave my heart.
Speaker:This is an amazing thing that we get to do.
Speaker:And I realized I was still in love.
Speaker:I hope you enjoy the first part of my foray back into the fold.
Speaker:So let's get started.
Speaker:By the way my local airport that I'm talking about here and that I'd be flying
Speaker:out of is called Falcon field or K F F Z.
Speaker:It's one of two airports here in Mesa.
Speaker:And you'll note that as we go through more of my flights in these episodes,
Speaker:that when I fly south, I fly right over Chandler municipal, or K C H D.
Speaker:And if you're a long time listener, you'll recognize that as the home airport where
Speaker:I did my initial training back in 2008.
Speaker:That's another class Delta airport in the east valley of the Phoenix area.
Speaker:And we have quite a few airports around here.
Speaker:But now I'm flying out of Falcon, which is an airport I've always loved.
Speaker:It's busy.
Speaker:There's a lot of flight training and lots of other traffic that occurs
Speaker:there, but it's one of my favorites.
Speaker:And it always has been, since I've lived in Arizona, I've
Speaker:always lived somewhere near it.
Speaker:And I've always just loved the vibe at Falcon field.
Speaker:And it's only 10 or 15 minutes away from my current house,
Speaker:so that's pretty nice too.
Speaker:So as usual.
Speaker:We'll get started after getting back in the airplane and getting the ATIS.
Speaker:I was with an excellent young man named Ryan, my CFI, but just for my
Speaker:flight review, which would take a couple of flights if I remember right.
Speaker:Ryan was ready to head off to a regional airline, but his experience as a CFI
Speaker:and his demeanor was super helpful in helping me get back in the saddle.
Speaker:Here you go.
Speaker:Is the compass working?
Speaker:It is, yeah, it's just missing the little, uh, plastic plate on the top.
Speaker:So basically whatever's on top of there is your heading it should say.
Speaker:And it's probably going to have to adjust a lot because I turned it around.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Oops.
Speaker:That's the wrong thing.
Speaker:You're getting, you're getting warmer.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Alright, so we are at 13, 13 it looks like.
Speaker:I'd call it about 130.
Speaker:Falcon Ground, Oxtra
Speaker:5841 at spot 5 with information November looking for a Chandler.
Speaker:Alright.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And
Speaker:Uh, ATIS is first.
Speaker:Oh yeah, you're right.
Speaker:We'll go ahead and get our ATIS here first.
Speaker:Uh, our frequency for that is one, one eight point two five.
Speaker:You can do it however you like.
Speaker:I like to use the bottom number two radio for your ATIS's and
Speaker:the top for stuff I'm talking on.
Speaker:Sounds good.
Speaker:Um, this comm here, it has two green lights on com.
Speaker:One means you're talking to and listening.
Speaker:This would be monitoring that over the top of that information.
Speaker:Contact.
Speaker:I put everything down here.
Speaker:All arrive contact tower on 1, 2, 4 0.6.
Speaker:Advise initial contact.
Speaker:You have information.
Speaker:November,
Speaker:November, November.
Speaker:Gotta get our altimeter and winds and runway
Speaker:Falcon tower information.
Speaker:November 1, 5 5, 4.
Speaker:Zulu wind, calm.
Speaker:Temperature three dew point minus one.
Speaker:Altimeter 3029.
Speaker:That
Speaker:is what it is.
Speaker:Cool, you good with that?
Speaker:Uh, yeah, winds calm, departing Runways 4.
Speaker:Yep, and go ahead and hit that bottom one, that'll move both your
Speaker:comms over.
Speaker:This
Speaker:is
Speaker:ground?
Speaker:Yep, so 121.
Speaker:3 is ground and 124.
Speaker:6 is tower here.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Uh, flight instruments.
Speaker:Okay, so we got this one.
Speaker:Does that jive with what you'll normally see?
Speaker:Yep, that's good enough.
Speaker:Our elevation here is 1,
Speaker:394 feet, so that's close enough.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And the ATIS did say 3029.
Speaker:Yep, so you got that set up.
Speaker:I think it's 8, but
Speaker:Yeah, it's 8, so you
Speaker:gotta go up a little more.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Um, airport diagram.
Speaker:I'll be your airport diagram.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:You got one right in that pocket there.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Alright,
Speaker:I think we're
Speaker:Alright.
Speaker:ready to go.
Speaker:And we'll go ahead and pull up where that guy was sitting
Speaker:over there by that dashed line.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Okay, let her move a little bit, maybe give your brakes a quick
Speaker:stop to make sure they work.
Speaker:Oh, and I do not have brakes on my side, so if I reach for the uh,
Speaker:If I reach for the parking brake, that's why I don't have brakes.
Speaker:Alright, clear to the left and to the right.
Speaker:Now we're just gonna stop up there before that dash line.
Speaker:You're not required to stop there, but it's just uh, we just stop here
Speaker:because they know where spot 3 is.
Speaker:That's what this is called?
Speaker:Oh, it's right there on the pavement.
Speaker:This is
Speaker:all a non movement area here, so you can do whatever.
Speaker:But we just stop here because when you say spot three, when you call
Speaker:them, they know where you are.
Speaker:Alrighty.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So, it'll be, and you want to go ahead and put that back up to a thousand.
Speaker:Gear power when we're sitting here.
Speaker:Yeah, if you get it below about 900, the alternator will stop
Speaker:charging the battery and it'll start falling off the plugs eventually.
Speaker:Gotcha.
Speaker:Alright, we'll go Falcon Ground, Red Rock 66.
Speaker:Where's my push to talk?
Speaker:It is right there.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:All right, just get ready for a theme here.
Speaker:I was not very comfortable after so long off, so I felt, and
Speaker:now that I'm listening, again, sounded like almost a new student.
Speaker:I had some good base knowledge and experience, but it was so far
Speaker:removed that I felt like I was starting almost from the ground up.
Speaker:I had about 220 hours at the time and I would rely on that experience as I
Speaker:relearned, but 220 is not very much in the big scheme of things, especially
Speaker:when it was all 11 to 15 years before.
Speaker:So I made my ground call and the controller surprised us
Speaker:with a pretty funny question.
Speaker:The flight school I was at had moved the airplanes all out to the tie-downs
Speaker:and on the flight line, instead of at, or near the hangar where the
Speaker:school was because of some sort of construction that was going on.
Speaker:So when we went out to a plane, it was either a pretty long
Speaker:walk or a golf cart ride.
Speaker:It was temporary maybe a month or so, but the planes were parked
Speaker:sort of out in front of the tower.
Speaker:So they saw us coming and going like crazy all day long.
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Before I play it.
Speaker:, you'll hear in the background while we're having the back and forth, one
Speaker:of the instructors, one of the other instructors in a different airplane,
Speaker:I think tried to answer as well.
Speaker:You can hear it in the background.
Speaker:Anyway, this is a pretty funny exchange.
Speaker:Here it is.
Speaker:Falcon Ground, Red Rock 66, at spot 3 with November, requesting north departure.
Speaker:What's
Speaker:Rock 66 Falcon, uh, ground.
Speaker:How long does it take you to walk over to your plane?
Speaker:Depends on if we have the cart or we're using our feet.
Speaker:I saw you guys using your feet this morning.
Speaker:We sit in planes all day.
Speaker:Anyways, we need to walk once in a while.
Speaker:About 7 minutes.
Speaker:How long does it take you to walk from the building over there?
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:about 7 8 minutes probably.
Speaker:Okay, I guess you guys need the exercise.
Speaker:Runway four right taxi via Delta Red Rock 66.
Speaker:Four right via Delta Red Rock 66.
Speaker:Alright.
Speaker:That's the first time I heard that one.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So, yeah, that was a good time.
Speaker:I'm glad with even an extremely busy airport and controllers who are not only
Speaker:busy, but perpetually shorthanded, they still have a little fun with the pilots.
Speaker:And, speaking of busy, let's talk about that for a minute.
Speaker:As you hear me training here more and more over the next episodes, you'll hear how
Speaker:busy it is, but a quick search shows it's definitely in the top 10 of the country's
Speaker:busiest, general aviation airports.
Speaker:In fact, at least three of the top 10 are in the Phoenix area.
Speaker:It's definitely a popular place to flight train.
Speaker:So there's a lot of traffic from that as well as all the other normal traffic.
Speaker:Anyway, glad these overworked controllers take a moment to have fun sometimes.
Speaker:So then we taxied out to the run-up area near the approach end of runway 4R?
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So you just leave it and use brakes then?
Speaker:You leave it at 1, 000?
Speaker:Even though I would normally pull it back here?
Speaker:No, once I get going,
Speaker:I like to keep it between nine hundred and a thousand I don't
Speaker:like pulling it that low.
Speaker:Because uh, in the summer it'll foul up your plugs real fast, how hot it is.
Speaker:Just a lot of brakes, I guess.
Speaker:Alright, she said Delta, right?
Speaker:Yes sir.
Speaker:You'll see, once you get slowing, you can pretty much keep it at 900 and it'll,
Speaker:you don't need to ride the brakes much.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And once I do need to slow down a bit, I just add brakes to about a
Speaker:walking speed, then let go of them.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And keep it going.
Speaker:But, right here is, Trying to get
Speaker:the sight picture.
Speaker:Help me, help me with the nose wheel.
Speaker:Am I on?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Basically, take that yellow line, pretend it's coming inside the cockpit,
Speaker:and keep it on your inside leg.
Speaker:That'll keep your right smack dab on the middle.
Speaker:All right, good.
Speaker:Lower down a little bit.
Speaker:All right, not this left right here, but the next one.
Speaker:We're gonna go and pull in here.
Speaker:It says run up.
Speaker:Oops, my bad.
Speaker:Go ahead and start slowing down here a little bit.
Speaker:Okay, so just follow the line.
Speaker:Keep following it.
Speaker:And we're just gonna pull up into one of these stalls next to these guys.
Speaker:Oh, I see.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Okay, these are just run up areas.
Speaker:Really doesn't matter, right?
Speaker:Nah, you can take any one you want.
Speaker:Whichever one you're feeling like.
Speaker:I'm feeling this one.
Speaker:Ah, yeah, this, this one looks nice.
Speaker:Looks comfortable.
Speaker:And just out before the dash line there again.
Speaker:So, as you heard, I'm doing things as simple as asking for help to get the site
Speaker:picture for what it looks like in these planes, when you're on center line taxing.
Speaker:Pretty basic stuff.
Speaker:So about the airplanes I'd be flying.
Speaker:If you remember from my initial training, I learned to fly in Piper
Speaker:Cherokees, PA-28-161 models, mostly.
Speaker:They were from the early eighties for the most part, maybe a couple
Speaker:from the late seventies, then.
Speaker:Later in my career, after getting my cert, I joined a local flying club, and
Speaker:back then that club only had Cessnas.
Speaker:Two 182s and a 172 SP.
Speaker:So by the time I was back to this flight, most of my time had been accumulated
Speaker:in a 182, which is a type that I really, really love even to this day.
Speaker:Well, the school uses mostly PA-28-180s, the extra power is nice out here
Speaker:in the desert when it gets hot, but you'll notice that they are not 181s.
Speaker:These are mostly sixties era airplanes, and they are well used
Speaker:in a very busy flight school.
Speaker:They are airworthy of course, but they are not going to win any beauty contests.
Speaker:Let's put it that way.
Speaker:But you'll hear coming up a pretty funny situation.
Speaker:I had to get over where my muscle memory was thwarting my ability
Speaker:to fly these older planes.
Speaker:We'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker:For now we do the run-up back in a PA 28 for the first time in about 13 years.
Speaker:Alright, we're gonna need a run up.
Speaker:Parking brake.
Speaker:And up.
Speaker:Mixture rich.
Speaker:Do we want it rich?
Speaker:Yep,
Speaker:you can go all the way rich.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Flight controls.
Speaker:Cleared the right side and going to, uh I believe it's Falcon Aviation.
Speaker:Up on this side, down on that side.
Speaker:Delta Tango, Falcon.
Speaker:Are you correct?
Speaker:Roger, stand by.
Speaker:Throttle 2, 000.
Speaker:I wish you had brakes too.
Speaker:Nope, I can hold
Speaker:your, uh, parking brake.
Speaker:Uh, Magnetos.
Speaker:Right there.
Speaker:About
Speaker:a hundred.
Speaker:And About seventy five.
Speaker:Look good to you?
Speaker:Yeah, looks good to me.
Speaker:Uh,
Speaker:carb heat.
Speaker:Drop.
Speaker:I'm waiting for you.
Speaker:Uh, that ammeter reads so barely above zero you can't tell.
Speaker:But right here is a battery voltage meter.
Speaker:If you're anywhere around 14, you're good.
Speaker:If you see it constantly going down, you know you got an issue.
Speaker:Alright, thank you.
Speaker:Vacuum.
Speaker:Right there, we're looking for anywhere between 4 and 6.
Speaker:Alright, we're at 5.
Speaker:Oil and fuel gauges.
Speaker:Our oil temperature's still low.
Speaker:Oil pressure's good.
Speaker:Fuel's good.
Speaker:Throttle, back to idle.
Speaker:a thousand.
Speaker:Pull her all the way out.
Speaker:Can't pull it anymore, we're just making sure it's not going to die on us.
Speaker:Oh, you want to pull it all the way out?
Speaker:Yeah, pull it all the way
Speaker:out to idle and just make sure it keeps running.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And then once you know it will, then go up to a thousand.
Speaker:And this isn't on the checklist, but I always re lean it after my run up.
Speaker:Because, uh, that's about good.
Speaker:Most of the time here, you'll sit in line behind ten other people in line.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And if you sit there idling forever, It'll foul it up.
Speaker:It'll foul up your plugs, and you'll go to take off and be like,
Speaker:oh my god, my engine's dying.
Speaker:But your plugs are just stuffed full of lead.
Speaker:Alright, flight instruments.
Speaker:That looks good.
Speaker:We're at zero.
Speaker:Uh, it doesn't really match anymore.
Speaker:About three, yeah, usually Oscar, uh,
Speaker:gets a little bit
Speaker:off of it, yeah.
Speaker:Vacuum took a while.
Speaker:We're at 300.
Speaker:Those heading indicators constantly process when you turn.
Speaker:Man, you can't get it to stop where you want it.
Speaker:Yeah, it's good
Speaker:enough.
Speaker:It's good enough.
Speaker:Uh, any other flight instruments I need to check?
Speaker:I always just look over everything one more time.
Speaker:Airspeed, that, altimeter.
Speaker:I'll look at that.
Speaker:Mostly this is the only one that moves, but I just look at everything.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Transponder is 1, 200.
Speaker:And we want to go to altitude, right?
Speaker:That'll
Speaker:automatically cycle to altitude once you take off.
Speaker:Automation.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Uh, before takeoff brief.
Speaker:Alright.
Speaker:Doing a normal takeoff?
Speaker:Normal takeoff.
Speaker:If, uh, anything happens on the runway, we'll come to a stop, get off.
Speaker:Uh, anything off the runway and we can't turn back, we got golf courses
Speaker:right off the ends of the runways or we got McDowell Road which is pretty
Speaker:wide and usually not very busy.
Speaker:Thousand feet or higher, we'll make a 180 and we'll land on
Speaker:22 right facing to the south.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:That's usually how I like to My game plan.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:And radio's set.
Speaker:Cool.
Speaker:So you can go flip over to tower now.
Speaker:We were cleared to taxi all the way down to the runway.
Speaker:This is just pit stop along the way.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And then I always put the next frequency we're gonna use
Speaker:too, just to have it ready.
Speaker:So we're going onto to the north practice area, and that's 1 2, 2 0.75.
Speaker:These, those guys.
Speaker:Four at Cliff Takeoff, 1890.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:Perfect.
Speaker:122.
Speaker:75, radios are set.
Speaker:We don't do the before takeoff until we get down there, right?
Speaker:I usually do it if I'm going to be number one down there, but that guy
Speaker:might be taxiing out by the time we get there, so I would just do it here.
Speaker:Okay, so fuel pump on.
Speaker:You okay with it on now?
Speaker:Yes sir.
Speaker:That's not it.
Speaker:Landing
Speaker:light on.
Speaker:And the only thing I wait to do is my mixture, I leave that.
Speaker:Yep, okay.
Speaker:Flaps?
Speaker:Uh, we don't do any flaps for a normal takeoff.
Speaker:Mixture, we'll do that, and door is secured?
Speaker:Yes sir.
Speaker:So, our takeoff checklist is done.
Speaker:We'll
Speaker:Okay, so we're ready to head up to the runway and hold short.
Speaker:Here you go.
Speaker:get out on the runway there, you need your feet off the brakes.
Speaker:Uh, please keep one hand on the yoke and one hand on the throttle the
Speaker:whole entire way down the runway.
Speaker:And for about the first few hundred feet that we climb up.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:We rotate at 60 miles an hour and we climb at 85.
Speaker:Alright, this is miles per hour?
Speaker:Yes sir.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I just like to pop her off the ground and just keep the nose on the
Speaker:horizon for a bit so you can see.
Speaker:And, uh, it takes, it takes a few seconds to gain speed.
Speaker:Tell me,
Speaker:like, tell me the climb out, climb out speed again.
Speaker:It's
Speaker:85.
Speaker:85.
Speaker:Yes sir.
Speaker:Okay, is that VY?
Speaker:Yes sir.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:60 and 85.
Speaker:Yippers.
Speaker:And checklists complete.
Speaker:And at the whole Shortline, we're good to go.
Speaker:Here's the takeoff and climb out.
Speaker:They beat us up here.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Red Rock 53 factor, fly straight out, runway four right, cleared for takeoff.
Speaker:Red
Speaker:Rock 53 , clear for takeoff.
Speaker:Straight out.
Speaker:Foreright.
Speaker:Go to the hold short?
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I just like to stop so I can see the whole thing over my nose.
Speaker:Give yourself plenty of room.
Speaker:Can I hear her?
Speaker:Yeah, that's about good right there.
Speaker:Alright, you can just give them a shout.
Speaker:Uh, just, Falcon Tower, Red Rock 66, holding short of foreright.
Speaker:Falcon Tower, Red Rock 66, holding short foreright.
Speaker:Red Rock
Speaker:66 back there, fly straight out, Runway 4R, cleared for takeoff.
Speaker:Cleared for takeoff, fly straight out, Red Rock 66.
Speaker:Oh, I didn't say the runway.
Speaker:Yeah, he might ask
Speaker:you.
Speaker:But it doesn't sound like it, so keep going.
Speaker:Some of them ask you, some of them don't.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Alright, get your mixture there.
Speaker:That was improper.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:Alright, now do you want me to
Speaker:do a brief pause or just roll into it?
Speaker:No, you can just roll into it.
Speaker:Yep, just roll
Speaker:into it.
Speaker:Once you get out there, scoot those heels down to the floor though for
Speaker:me and get those feet off the brakes.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Alrighty.
Speaker:There we go.
Speaker:All the way.
Speaker:And everything is in the green.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And we're at 60.
Speaker:Nice smooth back pressure.
Speaker:Keep that bit of right rudder in there.
Speaker:Keep pulling her up.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:There we go.
Speaker:And 85.
Speaker:Connection three, left turn first.
Speaker:Nice
Speaker:job.
Speaker:Oops.
Speaker:Is it pulling on you pretty hard or does it feel alright?
Speaker:It's okay.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I'll reset it here in a second.
Speaker:Sounds good.
Speaker:I'm all over the place.
Speaker:You're fine!
Speaker:You're doing good!
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So remember I was back in a Piper after quite awhile, but
Speaker:not only that I had never flown a Cherokee from the sixties before.
Speaker:In the Cherokees I had flown the trim wheel was on the center
Speaker:console down by the flap handle.
Speaker:And in the Cessnas, it's in a relatively similar place on
Speaker:the lower portion of the panel.
Speaker:, in the center.
Speaker:On these older PA 28s, the trim handle looks like the
Speaker:old time car, window cranks.
Speaker:Uh, , those crank handles and it's overhead on the ceiling in
Speaker:the middle between the pilots.
Speaker:I reverted to my primacy of learning and all of my experience and when I
Speaker:go to trim I would reach down, not up.
Speaker:The crazy thing was I kept doing it and it wasn't obvious which way to crank the,
Speaker:to lower or raise the nose with trim.
Speaker:Since it's a horizontal crank.
Speaker:I figured it out within a few flights.
Speaker:But we had a good laugh at my expense every time I would reach down to
Speaker:trim and nothing was there to turn.
Speaker:Looking great!
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Just need a little where is that?
Speaker:It's up
Speaker:under your ceiling.
Speaker:You Cessna, boys.
Speaker:That was just pure muscle memory.
Speaker:Which way is, uh, forward?
Speaker:Just
Speaker:swivel it and see what it does.
Speaker:That's
Speaker:the wrong
Speaker:way.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Red
Speaker:X 66, left turn for
Speaker:That's you.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Left turn approved, Red Rock 66.
Speaker:I've got over a thousand hours in these and I still don't know
Speaker:which way is which with the trim.
Speaker:I just give it a couple swivels, shit, wrong way, then I go the other way.
Speaker:We went ahead due north.
Speaker:Uh, you see where all those houses are out there in like the
Speaker:foothills of those mountains?
Speaker:That's uh, Fountain Hills.
Speaker:That's where we usually point when we got to North practice area.
Speaker:So, you see where they go?
Speaker:Those guys right ahead of us?
Speaker:Yes sir.
Speaker:About 11 o'clock.
Speaker:Just follow them.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And we're gonna go up to 3,700 feet.
Speaker:3,700?
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:We're under a 4,000 foot Bravo shelf right now.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:So we usually do 37 going out and 33 come back in just 'cause so many people
Speaker:funnel in and outta the same place.
Speaker:Or sorry, four right at in your head on.
Speaker:So it just kind of keeps you, you know, not on a head-on collision course.
Speaker:Gotcha.
Speaker:Coming
Speaker:back.
Speaker:You do
Speaker:what we do.
Speaker:33 coming in 33 and 30 going out.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And when you're ready, get your after takeoff there real quick.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:Oh, it's nice and smooth out here.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:you wouldn't know it from my takeoff though.
Speaker:After takeoff,
Speaker:flaps, zero, mixture, rich, landing light off, and pump off probably.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, you can go ahead and turn
Speaker:to zero.
Speaker:Still have fuel pressure,
Speaker:airspeed,
Speaker:cruise climb, 100.
Speaker:After takeoff complete.
Speaker:Man, did you turn the autopilot on?
Speaker:Yeah, it's my feet.
Speaker:I'm a little fast at 90, are we okay?
Speaker:No, you're fine.
Speaker:The crew,
Speaker:it tells you on your after takeoff to pitch over to 100.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So you can if you want.
Speaker:Usually when you're a little heavier, uh, like the plane, I
Speaker:shoot for about 90, because 100 you'll just basically barely climb.
Speaker:Yeah, but 95 or so, whatever's good.
Speaker:Just basically get the nose down far enough so you can
Speaker:see over the, uh, over it.
Speaker:Ah, look at you.
Speaker:Muscle memory.
Speaker:So we go out to the north practice area and he wanted to start me slow
Speaker:with just some regular old turns.
Speaker:Take a listen.
Speaker:Cool.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So you just want to give me a nice left 360.
Speaker:Just try and maintain your altitude.
Speaker:Do about maybe, I don't know, 30 degrees bank or so.
Speaker:30 degrees.
Speaker:All
Speaker:right.
Speaker:Do you do?
Speaker:Okay,
Speaker:let's see.
Speaker:Hey, we look clear to the left.
Speaker:Before I do any turns out here, so clear left, clear right.
Speaker:Or just the way you're turning, so clear left.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Left turn.
Speaker:Gizzard.
Speaker:Just get into that bank and then just kind of work on using the
Speaker:horizon to keep yourself level.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Let it do all the work for ya.
Speaker:And if you see you're getting a little, there you go.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Trying to figure out the sight picture again.
Speaker:Yeah, you're good.
Speaker:That's why we're doing circles here.
Speaker:Oops,
Speaker:I let my turn out.
Speaker:I'll just give her a little more back pressure and a
Speaker:little bit of a descent there.
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Kind of keep the ripple right on the horizon, right?
Speaker:Uh huh.
Speaker:Yeah, this one I think is a little more difficult to keep low than the
Speaker:other ones because this dash is all, you can't really, you can't see the
Speaker:nose where the other ones are set up nice and high, you can see the whole
Speaker:calendar.
Speaker:emergency descent, uh, northeast.
Speaker:Northeast
Speaker:practice, Red Rock 66 over Rio Verde community at 5, 500 circling northeast.
Speaker:Want me to roll out north again?
Speaker:Yeah, roll out north and then go back the other way.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:There's that little burble.
Speaker:Yeah, might have a wake of error there.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Alright.
Speaker:Clear?
Speaker:Clear right.
Speaker:Northeast Pakistan Air, what's going on?
Speaker:500, just north of Dynamite Road, gonna be maneuvering northeastbound, northeast.
Speaker:Oh, this is totally different on this side.
Speaker:Yes
Speaker:it is.
Speaker:Oh, they're over Rio Verde at 5, 000.
Speaker:We'll keep an eye out for them.
Speaker:I've become such a wuss without sunglasses since I know, once I started wearing them.
Speaker:It would kill me, man.
Speaker:If there's any light out, I can't see.
Speaker:Alright.
Speaker:Roll
Speaker:out on north again there.
Speaker:Nice job!
Speaker:That looked pretty good.
Speaker:It's nice, it's pretty still.
Speaker:Yeah!
Speaker:This thing is pretty stable.
Speaker:They fly like trucks.
Speaker:Alright, go ahead and give me a left turn at 240.
Speaker:Try to do the same amount of bank.
Speaker:240 at 30.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Okay,
Speaker:it's
Speaker:clear.
Speaker:And when you're rolling to your turn, relax a little bit on that left rudder.
Speaker:You don't really need it until you're actually in the turn.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:You barely need any.
Speaker:Northeast practice, Oxford 4263, simulator emergency landing, we're
Speaker:going to be on the north side of the Ah, a little too much right.
Speaker:Oops, I'm not on my heading.
Speaker:I rolled out on the street.
Speaker:I didn't see nothing.
Speaker:Alright, now let's go back to, uh, how about
Speaker:030?
Speaker:030.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So not too bad after all that time, but these were just turns for crying out loud.
Speaker:It was time to move on to a few other things.
Speaker:So Ryan wanted to demonstrate slow flight once and then have me try it.
Speaker:Beautiful.
Speaker:Okay, that's easy for you.
Speaker:Should we start with some slow flight?
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:Go ahead and do that.
Speaker:You feel up for it?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Cool, cool.
Speaker:All right, so on your checklist, we got a pre maneuver checklist
Speaker:that we'll go through first.
Speaker:The clearing turns you can skip.
Speaker:We just, we'll call those all our clearing turns.
Speaker:Just need a little bit of
Speaker:trim here.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Nope.
Speaker:Maybe.
Speaker:Maybe not.
Speaker:Okay, before, cruise,
Speaker:It's on like the very, there it is, the very back.
Speaker:Okay, clearing turns complete.
Speaker:Just did them.
Speaker:Fuel pump on.
Speaker:Landing light on.
Speaker:Nice.
Speaker:There we go.
Speaker:Mixture rich.
Speaker:Wanna do that?
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Carb heat.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Think we need it?
Speaker:No, we only use carpeet when we, yeah, we get, we use carpeet when we get car
Speaker:biasing, otherwise you leave it cold.
Speaker:Alright.
Speaker:And throttle.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Alrighty.
Speaker:So, I'll go ahead and just kind of do it with you first, and just run
Speaker:you through our procedure to do it.
Speaker:So, what we're going to do, we're going to pick a starting heading, I don't really
Speaker:care about you maintaining your heading perfectly today, just kind of look at
Speaker:something out front and just point at it.
Speaker:I'll just kind of point out towards Bartlett here.
Speaker:Keep away from the mountains so we don't hit any bumps.
Speaker:We'll try and maintain about 5, 500 here.
Speaker:So first thing we're going to do, pull our power down to 2, 000 rpm.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And then once we're at 100 miles an hour, we're going to get
Speaker:our first notch of flaps in.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:So if you want to go and pull it, kind of feel it.
Speaker:First one doesn't really do much to you.
Speaker:The second one is the one that likes to blow you up.
Speaker:All right, then 90 miles an hour, we'll get our second notch.
Speaker:I'm a big fan of trim too.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:Make it do the work for you.
Speaker:Uh,
Speaker:close enough, get 90 for the second notch.
Speaker:There we go.
Speaker:Built that one a little more.
Speaker:And this is the one I swear to God it just stops on down, sometimes
Speaker:you gotta pull a little extra power.
Speaker:I get more trim in.
Speaker:And 80 you'll get your last.
Speaker:So it's just 190, 80 with the flaps.
Speaker:And then we'll go ahead and slow this sucker all the way down until
Speaker:we get a first indication of stall.
Speaker:Probably get it to about 55 miles an hour.
Speaker:And you're sitting at about 17?
Speaker:Yeah, it'll come down a
Speaker:little bit on its own while you slow down.
Speaker:Okay, just holding altitude.
Speaker:Yep, just holding altitude, and we're pretty much going to go till the stall
Speaker:light blinks, and we'll do our thing about five miles an hour above that.
Speaker:I'm not pulling.
Speaker:Yeah, you're good.
Speaker:It's your airplane, right?
Speaker:Uh, yeah, for the most part.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Just kind of
Speaker:feel me do this.
Speaker:I'm, that's what I'm doing, yeah.
Speaker:So, I'll just keep getting our nose up slightly, get ready with the
Speaker:power, just to get a little bit in.
Speaker:And, there's our light, so about 55 miles an hour, so we'll do this at about 60.
Speaker:Okay, we'll get a little bit of power and nose it down just a tad.
Speaker:And, yeah, that's right where I want it.
Speaker:Alright, so slow flight, you're going to kind of use your pitch to control your
Speaker:airspeed and your power for your altitude.
Speaker:So, now you see we're about 50 feet low.
Speaker:If I want to get back up, I'm just going to add a little bit of power.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Now when I add that power, I'm trying to stay at 60, so I'm going to nose up a
Speaker:little bit too, so I don't just speed up.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Remember we're going to need a good, decent amount of right rudder
Speaker:here, because we're pitched up high, high power setting, and very slow.
Speaker:There we go, right where I want to be, so I'll pull my power back out.
Speaker:Around 2, 000 rpm seems to be the sweet spot with this thing.
Speaker:I'll give you a couple turns too when we do it.
Speaker:We'll do no more than 10 degrees of bank.
Speaker:So shoot for about 10.
Speaker:Be a nice low flight.
Speaker:I like everything to be slow.
Speaker:Like we're a
Speaker:little fast.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:Even though we're in a left turn, we're still adding right rudder just
Speaker:because of our high power and all that.
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:Glorious 180.
Speaker:Horsepower, amount of torque working against us.
Speaker:Did you just pull a little power?
Speaker:I just pulled a tiny bit of power, yep.
Speaker:My airspeed is pretty much right where I want it.
Speaker:I like to try and stay within 10 miles an hour.
Speaker:Minus zero plus ten is the ACS standard, so if you can hold that, that's wonderful.
Speaker:But, see we're getting a tad bit high, so I'll just pull out a smidge of power,
Speaker:just let her sink down into place.
Speaker:Eh, I'm going to roll out about here.
Speaker:And our recovery, so this is what we're going to do.
Speaker:We're going to try and maintain our altitude still on our heading,
Speaker:so we're going to go full power.
Speaker:Get one notch flaps out right away, and I put a ton of trim in there So I like to
Speaker:kind of trim nose down while I speed up.
Speaker:Yep
Speaker:Kind of like a little a boat planning down on top of the water once it speeds up 80.
Speaker:We'll get our second notch And then at 90 we'll get our last Or nose down trim.
Speaker:There's 90 and around a hundred miles an hour.
Speaker:I'll reset my power to my cruise 21 22 There we go.
Speaker:All
Speaker:right,
Speaker:It was my turn now to get my slow flight on.
Speaker:If you don't know, or you don't remember slow flight is helpful in getting a
Speaker:feel for controlling the airplane in various configurations, getting it
Speaker:slow, and then being on the backside of the power curve, as they say,
Speaker:or in the area of reverse command.
Speaker:Where you have to add power to go slower.
Speaker:And then importantly, the recovery is great practice for
Speaker:controlling the airplane, having it do what you want rather than
Speaker:being mostly along for the ride.
Speaker:So, this is how it went for me.
Speaker:Right, let
Speaker:me get a shot
Speaker:Yes, sir.
Speaker:Go for it.
Speaker:What, what
Speaker:heading?
Speaker:Uh, just this way is fine.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:I'll go ahead and kind of talk you through it while you do it.
Speaker:First thing, power to 2, 000 and we'll try and stay around 5, 500 feet.
Speaker:That's good.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:And then 100 miles an hour, you can get your first notch flaps.
Speaker:Alright, and then 90, we'll get our second notch.
Speaker:If you see you're not slowing down at all, it's probably because
Speaker:you're in a little bit of a descent.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Gotcha.
Speaker:And if we need to pull out a little bit of power too, its all northeast
Speaker:practice area.
Speaker:Oxford 50 48.
Speaker:Sometimes it takes a long time in the winter to slow down over the fountain.
Speaker:Headed back to Falcon.
Speaker:Last call, Northeast.
Speaker:A little low and
Speaker:bit there.
Speaker:Is there.
Speaker:I got it.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:This, this flap lever isn't very cliquey in this plane.
Speaker:The other ones, it's really like, you feel it?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Might need to slow it down a little bit.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And then just pitch up your nose.
Speaker:Just a tiny, tiny bit.
Speaker:That'll.
Speaker:Get rid of a few extra miles per hour for you.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:And there we go.
Speaker:80.
Speaker:And let's
Speaker:slow down.
Speaker:I can't tell when it gets it.
Speaker:Let's just do it at basically 60 like we did last time.
Speaker:Keep pulling that nose up as you slow down.
Speaker:And it's up to you.
Speaker:If you want to make life easier, use trim.
Speaker:But if
Speaker:you want to get an arm workout, then don't.
Speaker:You can use as much or as little as you want.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:All right, cool.
Speaker:So keep pitching that nose up.
Speaker:We got a little extra air speed to get rid of and we're also
Speaker:starting to get a little low.
Speaker:Oh, yes, we are.
Speaker:So let's kind of get our hand on that throttle and maybe get some power in.
Speaker:They get about 2000.
Speaker:About 2000 RPM will keep you level.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So if you need to climb a little bit, you'll probably have to
Speaker:go a little higher than that.
Speaker:Got it.
Speaker:And
Speaker:keep it above 60
Speaker:with pitch.
Speaker:Get a little right rotor there.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:Beautiful.
Speaker:I'm climbing on purpose a little bit just to get back.
Speaker:Oh, I see what you're
Speaker:doing, and I'm liking it.
Speaker:Yeah, 100, 200 foot per minute climb is perfect for slow flight.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:And when you're ready, give me a left turn to, uh, about zero, nine, zero.
Speaker:Zero, nine, zero.
Speaker:Keep it about 10 degrees of bank.
Speaker:You're probably still going to have to keep that right rudder in there.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Just keep using that power and that pitch, control your airspeed and altitude.
Speaker:Beautiful.
Speaker:Oh, roll out.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Alright.
Speaker:Hey, let's go ahead and recover.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So, recovery, remind me of the RPM.
Speaker:Okay,
Speaker:it'll go
Speaker:full power.
Speaker:Full power, okay.
Speaker:Yes,
Speaker:sir.
Speaker:And I'm gonna
Speaker:need all the way, and then get one notch of flaps out right off the bat.
Speaker:All And then just try and maintain your altitude.
Speaker:Remember, it's going to kind of balloon up on you as you speed up.
Speaker:And at 80, we'll get our second one out.
Speaker:And 90, the last one.
Speaker:And then coming up on 100, I'll set my power back to where I had
Speaker:it at cruise, about 2100 or so.
Speaker:Dude, that was beautiful.
Speaker:Out of Passed a commercial checkride right there.
Speaker:Again, it helps
Speaker:the air is still.
Speaker:No, that, that is true.
Speaker:It's a little more difficult
Speaker:when it's, uh, when it's bumpy out, but.
Speaker:I did get five degrees right in my heading.
Speaker:Ah, that's alright.
Speaker:Commercially you get plus minus five, so.
Speaker:Good job.
Speaker:Well, hopefully I'll be doing that in a few months.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker:Alright, so how'd that feel?
Speaker:Good.
Speaker:Good.
Speaker:It looked great.
Speaker:It looked great.
Speaker:I really got nothing for ya.
Speaker:Every, every time you started descending or ascending, you
Speaker:did the correct, uh, fix for it.
Speaker:Used your power, and I heard you saying you were using your pitch for
Speaker:airspeed, so that's, that's perfect.
Speaker:So that's where we'll leave it for this episode.
Speaker:We'll pick this flight back up in the next one, which I
Speaker:promised to release next week.
Speaker:We'll head back into Falcon field and do my first landing in a minute.
Speaker:So I do appreciate any of you who are still listening, or anyone
Speaker:who's just discovering the podcast.
Speaker:Like I said, I've got a lot of editing and releasing to do, but I am not
Speaker:wanting for content or drama, so I'll release an episode each week . Right
Speaker:now we'll be doing that on Tuesdays.
Speaker:So hopefully you stick around and we go on this learning journey again together.
Speaker:As always, I would love to hear from you.
Speaker:Questions, comments, and critiques.
Speaker:Doesn't matter to me.
Speaker:Just reach out.
Speaker:And the easiest way is to just send an email to bill at
Speaker:student pilot cast dot com.
Speaker:I'll have some other ways to reach out soon too, but my old trusty Twitter
Speaker:or X account is still there too.
Speaker:You'll find me there under, at @billwil, that's Bravo, India,
Speaker:Lima, Lima, whiskey, India, Lima.
Speaker:And if you're training or you're teaching, or you'd like to be, let me know about
Speaker:you and your own journey in aviation.
Speaker:But again, being back in the air was awesome.
Speaker:It had obviously been too long.
Speaker:But I was thrilled.
Speaker:I had some more practice to do quite a bit of it actually.
Speaker:But I knew then.
Speaker:That I was going to be a pilot.
Speaker:Again.