1 00:00:02,580 --> 00:00:06,300 Janice Porter: Earl, hello and welcome to relationships rule. 2 00:00:06,300 --> 00:00:11,340 My special guest this week is Earl, the voice Thomas, and I'm 3 00:00:11,340 --> 00:00:17,760 pretty excited to hear a lot of his history and his expertise, 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,020 because he's been around for a while. And I'm going to start 5 00:00:21,020 --> 00:00:23,840 first of all by welcoming you, Earl. Welcome to the show. 6 00:00:24,499 --> 00:00:26,839 Earl Thomas: Thank you, Janice. I'm really glad to be here. 7 00:00:27,079 --> 00:00:30,079 Janice Porter: It's my pleasure, and I gotta start with Earl, 8 00:00:30,079 --> 00:00:34,519 Thomas, the voice. So talk to me about that. How did you get that 9 00:00:34,699 --> 00:00:38,899 moniker, and, and, and where did that come from? 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,040 Earl Thomas: I was in the self employment program at Douglas 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:42,700 College. 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,520 Janice Porter: Oh, my God, I took that. Oh, did you Yes? 13 00:00:45,820 --> 00:00:47,380 Yeah, long time ago, 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,640 Earl Thomas: and we had to have certain things, like we needed a 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:57,100 business license, so we got that a business card. And that's 16 00:00:57,100 --> 00:01:00,720 where Earl Thomas the voice came from, and creating vocal 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,640 paradise for your exact needs. And it was, it was a really good 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,920 program, and I really enjoyed it. Actually, there was a 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,240 volunteer I had to go before a small board. And it turned out 20 00:01:15,540 --> 00:01:18,180 that person became a friend later because he's, he's in my 21 00:01:18,180 --> 00:01:21,860 Toastmasters program, Darren fruit and and he remembered that 22 00:01:21,860 --> 00:01:24,260 before I remembered it. Oh, yeah. 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Janice Porter: Well, when did you so when did you start doing 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,880 voiceover stuff? Because that's obviously the connection the 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,060 voice being that you have a fantastic voice, and you've been 26 00:01:35,060 --> 00:01:39,380 in radio, and you've done a lot of voiceovers, and that world 27 00:01:39,380 --> 00:01:42,640 itself fascinates me, so I'm wondering how that started for 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:42,940 you. 29 00:01:43,540 --> 00:01:46,720 Earl Thomas: Well, it was when I came back from Penticton. I was 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,660 in radio, because I've been in the BCIT Broadcast 31 00:01:49,660 --> 00:01:55,300 Communications Program in radio, and I took this course called 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:01,500 VoiceOver and animation from Kathy Wessel, luck. Okay, it had 33 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:06,840 an option, an option to go out and get consultations, so I 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,380 would do that. And of course, when we first met, you know, 35 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:14,100 this is your homework. You don't come back until you do your 36 00:02:14,100 --> 00:02:20,600 homework diligently. And then she got me ready. She got this 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,100 was all in preparation so I could take direction and be 38 00:02:25,100 --> 00:02:29,780 ready to go into the studio, to Coco studios and do my demo. And 39 00:02:29,780 --> 00:02:33,080 since then, I've actually done demos right on here on my 40 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:38,720 MacBook Pro, from work that I've done before. So I love doing 41 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,520 voiceover. It's very competitive, of course, yeah, 42 00:02:43,659 --> 00:02:47,199 Janice Porter: I once took a little, sort of one day or two 43 00:02:47,199 --> 00:02:52,119 day program about voiceovers and and what I would I did it for 44 00:02:52,119 --> 00:02:56,559 was because I wanted to, I love to read aloud, and I love to 45 00:02:56,559 --> 00:03:00,179 read interesting books or children's books even more 46 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:04,019 allowed. I was a teacher in my first life, and I always loved 47 00:03:04,079 --> 00:03:08,159 reading aloud to the kids, and I thought that that would be fun 48 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:11,639 to do. But again, as you said, it's very competitive, and it's 49 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,019 also a whole thing unto itself. I would have had to spend a lot 50 00:03:16,019 --> 00:03:19,439 of time just focused on that, and I didn't have the time to do 51 00:03:19,439 --> 00:03:23,539 that, but it was something I always wished I'd done. What was 52 00:03:23,539 --> 00:03:26,179 your favorite thing for in voiceovers to do? 53 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,760 Earl Thomas: Well, I thought it was narration, but I found that 54 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,420 when I got a hot cell, which from BCIT, a hot cell is like, 55 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:39,080 there's a lot of energy, and I find those were were more fun to 56 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,120 do. You know, when you ramp up the the energy, yeah, of course. 57 00:03:43,420 --> 00:03:48,400 And I've, I've learned since, really, what is the going thing 58 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,360 now is, is not the hot cell. You're talking one to one to 59 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,740 another person you got, you got to bring it down. You know, just 60 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,780 as I'm talking to you, this is the best product I've ever used, 61 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:02,760 you know, Janice, you just gotta have 62 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,000 Janice Porter: it. Ah, okay, so the enthusiasm is there, but, 63 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:06,960 yeah, but 64 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,460 Earl Thomas: bring it down. 65 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,580 Janice Porter: So is there money to be made in voiceovers? 66 00:04:15,540 --> 00:04:18,540 Earl Thomas: Well, I have, but the when you first start, there 67 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:24,680 are ones that on Facebook, there was a guy in Carolina, and I did 68 00:04:24,740 --> 00:04:29,420 Joe Leone's bakery, and that was free, just to get me started. 69 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:36,200 Now, years later, I did, you know when the pandemics was on a 70 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:42,280 voiceover for him, and it was paid because we we kept John 71 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:49,060 figueroato, we kept connecting through LinkedIn. So yes, but I 72 00:04:49,060 --> 00:04:51,760 like them now. I like the money. I'd rather have the money now, 73 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:55,300 Janice Porter: yeah, of course. But you know, there's so many 74 00:04:55,300 --> 00:05:00,180 different types of of voiceover jobs, like there's the. The 75 00:05:00,180 --> 00:05:04,560 promos, the the public service announcements, the sports 76 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,820 announcing, the business messages and and the narration 77 00:05:08,820 --> 00:05:13,080 and so on. I wonder if you've ever done this. I was a trainer 78 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:17,760 for many years, and for the telephone company, and one of 79 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,600 the things we trained on in my department was we would go to 80 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,140 big customers, and we would set them up with their new this is 81 00:05:24,140 --> 00:05:28,040 back in the day. We would set them up with their new voice 82 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,380 mail system, and we'd have to set up the voice recording for 83 00:05:33,380 --> 00:05:37,400 the automated answer, the automated attendant. You know, 84 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,380 Hi. Thanks for calling ABC Company. You know. Please press 85 00:05:41,380 --> 00:05:44,800 one for this. Press two for that. And I was training in one 86 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,520 of the companies, and I think it was a law firm or a big 87 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,600 accounting firm, and the girls that I was training were the 88 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,960 front office people, and they said, Oh, I can't do that. Will 89 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,300 you do the voice for me? Will you do the voice? Will you do 90 00:05:58,300 --> 00:06:01,680 the recording? And I said, Sure, I'll do it for you. Well, five 91 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,080 years later, I called the company, and my voice was still 92 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,620 on the on the recording, because nobody had changed it. And I 93 00:06:07,620 --> 00:06:10,500 think that's hysterical. But did you ever do any of those, the 94 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,140 the voice recordings for that? Yes, 95 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,900 Earl Thomas: I had a client out in Coquitlam that I did for it. 96 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,720 Did the recordings Now, press this or press that? Yeah, yeah, 97 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,460 Janice Porter: that's hysterical, but to still be 98 00:06:22,460 --> 00:06:33,080 there after all that time. Now you, I know have, I think you're 99 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,040 passionate about and correct me if I'm wrong, but doing work 100 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,360 around mental health, 101 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,760 Earl Thomas: yes, yes, because I've experienced depression, and 102 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,200 I took a course called stand up for mental health. SMH, and, you 103 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,740 know, I've done live, because it was part of the course, the 104 00:06:50,740 --> 00:06:54,100 graduation of the six months. Was it? Yuck, yucks Comedy Club. 105 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:54,340 That 106 00:06:54,340 --> 00:06:56,800 Janice Porter: was the graduation your comedy piece. 107 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,040 Oh, my goodness, I did watch that. Actually do 108 00:07:00,100 --> 00:07:03,600 Earl Thomas: a debut, but that that's not there, that's that 109 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,460 was at a coffee shop. Oh, okay, in Burnaby, but the place is 110 00:07:08,460 --> 00:07:12,600 full. The lights are bright. We can hardly see them out there. 111 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:16,920 And I still have them because, you know, we had a videographer, 112 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:22,280 and it's on my my website, and I can go back anytime and be an 113 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,120 alumni. And actually was an alumni for a year, and actually 114 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,040 got paid for a couple places that we did well. Thank 115 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,440 Janice Porter: you for sharing that you, because I think 116 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:38,240 depression is one of those things, and that is probably 117 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,760 more prevalent than we think in society, especially today and 118 00:07:43,540 --> 00:07:50,560 and if people let it go on, undiagnosed or unnoticed, in 119 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,220 that sense, it can be very detrimental and even deadly, 120 00:07:54,220 --> 00:07:59,020 right? So do you feel now, like I know that was a while ago, you 121 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:01,620 you're on an even keel, and you're good. And, 122 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,900 Earl Thomas: yes, what I did is I was taking counseling at New 123 00:08:06,900 --> 00:08:13,440 West High School. Was the grad program for the, you know, the 124 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:18,720 outing, UBC. And I realized it only runs from a certain time, 125 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,260 let me say March, October to March, and I knew to do 126 00:08:24,260 --> 00:08:31,040 something more, and I read this book by Dr Caroline leaf, and it 127 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,240 was talking about a 21 day brain detox program. So I took that 128 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,680 and I wrote my own positive, healthy thoughts, and I use them 129 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:44,920 today, because depression can sometimes rear its ugly head, 130 00:08:45,100 --> 00:08:49,300 absolutely mine. Mine is particular situational 131 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:52,840 depression. So I've, you know, I've remember, I've written 132 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,160 them, I've memorized them. I don't say them every day, all of 133 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,600 them, but there's certain ones that I I focus on, and I'm, I'm 134 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,240 grateful for that. Yes, so 135 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,020 Janice Porter: you, you've, you worked on yourself, and you were 136 00:09:07,020 --> 00:09:11,340 able to to pull yourself out of it as well with the course that 137 00:09:11,340 --> 00:09:14,160 you took. It sounds as though you're a very curious person, 138 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,460 because you're always taking courses. What are you curious 139 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:18,240 about today? 140 00:09:18,780 --> 00:09:22,700 Earl Thomas: Well, that's why I love interviewing, because you 141 00:09:22,700 --> 00:09:25,520 don't know where it's going to go, and what I love about it, 142 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,580 too. I do an interview, and it's different being on the other 143 00:09:28,580 --> 00:09:33,260 side here. Yes, I'm I'm parking in my back of my brain. There 144 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:37,940 secondary questions, because they're going to say something, 145 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,020 and we want to clarify it some more. There's some something 146 00:09:41,020 --> 00:09:45,400 more there. So, yeah, I'd say I am a curious person. Why is this 147 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,620 happening now? Why? Why? 148 00:09:48,220 --> 00:09:49,960 Janice Porter: And what are you most curious about? 149 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,240 Earl Thomas: This is happening good right now, but this is 150 00:09:54,100 --> 00:09:56,620 Janice Porter: okay. So, so what are you most curious about 151 00:09:56,620 --> 00:09:57,100 today? 152 00:09:58,060 --> 00:10:00,540 Earl Thomas: What am I most curious about today? Where my 153 00:10:00,540 --> 00:10:05,220 business is going to go. Hey, I'm having a really good year. 154 00:10:05,220 --> 00:10:08,460 It started really good. It slowed down, and I'm getting 155 00:10:08,460 --> 00:10:11,700 close. So the last three months is really important. I'm taking 156 00:10:11,700 --> 00:10:16,920 this mentorship program called momentum, momentum membership, 157 00:10:16,980 --> 00:10:21,260 membership program, and I've gotten good results because 158 00:10:21,260 --> 00:10:26,120 there's a lot of accountability that comes from those in the 159 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,840 program and the coach, Marshall Stern, he's been very helpful to 160 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,360 me. Actually, he connected you and I didn't. He did. 161 00:10:32,420 --> 00:10:36,020 Janice Porter: He's a dear friend, yes, yeah, well, that's 162 00:10:36,020 --> 00:10:41,140 good, that it's working for you and propelling you for that last 163 00:10:41,140 --> 00:10:45,400 quarter, which is always the for me, that last quarter of the 164 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:50,140 year is also it's like the beginning, because, having had 165 00:10:50,140 --> 00:10:53,800 kids, I've always thought of September as the beginning of, 166 00:10:53,860 --> 00:10:57,880 you know of something. So I get it, it's a good time to dig in 167 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,320 and make things happen. And I know that you love interviewing 168 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:06,720 people as well, and where do you find your your guests for your 169 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,280 podcast? Well, 170 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,220 Earl Thomas: a friend of mine told me about this website, and 171 00:11:11,220 --> 00:11:14,040 she said, there's a free part to it, and so you can go on there. 172 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,420 Earl, thank God for Sheila. Well, you know, I never have had 173 00:11:18,420 --> 00:11:21,620 to go on there because, like, I was invited, I mean, 174 00:11:21,620 --> 00:11:26,780 Toastmasters, and a friend of mine invited me to the Mad 25 175 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,340 year anniversary. It was in Central Park. It was a really 176 00:11:31,340 --> 00:11:34,520 good feed. There was a lot of speakers, and he spoke. And 177 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,180 while he's speaking, I'm thinking, Wait a minute, Bob 178 00:11:38,180 --> 00:11:43,180 would make a really great interview. I got him, and I 179 00:11:43,180 --> 00:11:46,960 needed him again, because I played it a second time and a 180 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:53,500 third time when the young boys in in their 30s in New Jersey 181 00:11:53,980 --> 00:11:59,140 were killed by a drunk driver. Uh, their Matthew coro. And so I 182 00:11:59,140 --> 00:12:04,020 replayed him, you know, because it's essential don't drink and 183 00:12:04,019 --> 00:12:06,659 Janice Porter: drive. Yeah, yeah. That was very sad, very 184 00:12:06,659 --> 00:12:06,959 sad. 185 00:12:07,020 --> 00:12:09,600 Are you a hockey fan? Oh, yes, I am. 186 00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:15,600 I thought you might be. Yeah, I'm not, but that's okay. I 187 00:12:16,500 --> 00:12:19,440 we're a sports family, so I can't help is, if it's not 188 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:22,760 hockey, it's football or baseball or basketball that's 189 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:30,140 on, so I kind of get it through osmosis. So so I know, because 190 00:12:30,140 --> 00:12:33,560 I've been interviewed by you, that you do do your homework on 191 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:37,940 your podcast, and you like to have your questions and your 192 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,860 opportunity for secondary questions laid out for for your 193 00:12:41,860 --> 00:12:44,920 guests, which is great. I like to go by the seat of my pants. I 194 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,580 don't know what I'm going to say. I do pay attention to your 195 00:12:48,580 --> 00:12:51,400 LinkedIn profile. I look at your website and maybe listen to 196 00:12:51,580 --> 00:12:55,480 something that you have done as well. But I have to go with my 197 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:00,540 gut, and I remember one of the things we talked about before 198 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:05,940 off air was we had alluded to that stand up comedy piece that 199 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,460 that you were just talking about, and I didn't realize that 200 00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:11,700 the one was sort of your graduation from, from this 201 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:16,740 course, but I do you still ever have because I know you felt 202 00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:19,800 that stand up comedy didn't turn out the way you wanted it to. 203 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,140 You didn't really it wasn't for you. Do you ever regret that? Or 204 00:13:24,140 --> 00:13:25,880 was it? I wouldn't 205 00:13:25,879 --> 00:13:29,059 Earl Thomas: say it wasn't for me. It was for me at the time, 206 00:13:29,659 --> 00:13:33,679 but there's so many things going on. I still stay connected with 207 00:13:33,859 --> 00:13:38,959 you. Okay? And I could pick it up again anytime. I have a 208 00:13:38,959 --> 00:13:42,279 comedy file. And I moved from Wilson Avenue over here to 209 00:13:42,279 --> 00:13:48,159 Sussex. And, you know, I, I keep my things where, so I can find 210 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:52,959 them and everything. Yeah, a comedy file. I don't I, you 211 00:13:52,959 --> 00:13:57,579 know, I've got to, one day, go down to my the lower reaches of 212 00:13:57,579 --> 00:14:05,039 this, this place, and go p3 and look in my locker, and because, 213 00:14:05,219 --> 00:14:06,959 because it's there, you know, 214 00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:10,680 Janice Porter: well, actually, I find when you say that, that's 215 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:13,680 fascinating to me, because, you know, all the great comedians 216 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,760 have these boulders or files about their jokes, and I never 217 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,260 think about, you know, I was Listening to a couple of 218 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:24,860 comedians talking about that, probably, on a talk show, and 219 00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:29,540 how they can develop a joke to go this way or that way or the 220 00:14:29,540 --> 00:14:32,120 other. And I, you know, I never think about that, but it's a 221 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,460 whole thing, right? It's definitely a whole 222 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,720 Earl Thomas: skill. Yes, it's the setup and then the 223 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,520 punchline. Yeah, yeah. And the interesting thing about when I 224 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:51,280 did it was in both places. I got to the setup on one joke, and 225 00:14:51,340 --> 00:14:54,700 then I said, Oh, it's coming because I'd forgotten the punch 226 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:58,180 line, and it did come in both places, so I was relieved that 227 00:14:58,180 --> 00:14:58,900 it was there. 228 00:14:59,020 --> 00:15:01,380 Janice Porter: Oh, that's too funny. Troy, yeah, that's crazy. 229 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:05,579 Earl Thomas: I mean, it was loud in Yuck, yucks. 230 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:09,240 Janice Porter: That's great. That's absolutely great. Okay, 231 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,960 so what you're working mostly right now on your podcast, 232 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:13,320 right? 233 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:17,100 Earl Thomas: Yes, doing podcasting, as you know, there's 234 00:15:17,100 --> 00:15:20,040 lots of detail and tons of detail. Well, you 235 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:21,739 Janice Porter: do it all yourself. That makes it even 236 00:15:21,739 --> 00:15:25,279 more so I don't, I must admit, do the back, you know, the back 237 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:27,919 end myself, because I'm not interested in doing that. But 238 00:15:27,919 --> 00:15:31,159 you must, must be, because you do it all yourself. Yeah, 239 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:33,499 Earl Thomas: well, I enjoy the whole process because I've 240 00:15:33,499 --> 00:15:37,879 created the process that works, that works for me. And, yeah, 241 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,420 Janice Porter: can you think of somebody that you want to 242 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:45,940 interview that you haven't been able to get to yet. 243 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:52,120 Earl Thomas: Well, yes, okay, I have a friend of mine who is in 244 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:59,140 a baseball discussion group saw Lindsay Barra, who is the Yogi 245 00:15:59,140 --> 00:16:03,060 berras relative, yep, granddaughter of Yogi Berra. 246 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,320 Yes, he helped me, because he said, Well, send me an email. So 247 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:12,420 I sent an email, then I got a response back from the president 248 00:16:12,420 --> 00:16:16,380 of that local group. And I expected that she would have had 249 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:22,040 an agent. She didn't have an agent. I was able to send her a 250 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:27,020 direct email, and I'm waiting now and I'll do a follow up, but 251 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:32,900 you gotta know that when she says yes, because I'm almost 252 00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:35,360 certain she will, because I responded to something that she 253 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,860 put on Twitter, she liked it, and the President liked it, a 254 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:44,500 Yogi Berra museum. And, you know, I'm going to be excited, 255 00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:49,240 and I already do really great prep, but I'm going to really be 256 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,760 close. Yeah, I'm going to this is going to be the best thing 257 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,240 and, and probably the hardest thing about voiceover, about 258 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,860 doing a PA announcing for the Grand View sealers, is that just 259 00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:03,780 before you open up the mic. But then once you get going, this 260 00:17:03,780 --> 00:17:08,220 woman is really intelligent. She knows about baseball injuries. 261 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,840 She knows about Yogi's history. Oh, talking baseball with 262 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,600 Lindsay Barrow will be such an awesome experience. 263 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,160 Janice Porter: Oh, okay, so you're so did you announce for 264 00:17:20,220 --> 00:17:22,940 baseball? Then, is that what you said? You just what was the name 265 00:17:22,940 --> 00:17:23,660 of the team? 266 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,480 Earl Thomas: Oh, he, he played for the New York King. No, no, 267 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,600 Janice Porter: no. Excuse me. I know that. Don't. Don't, please. 268 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,960 I know who Yogi Berra is. You said you were an announcer. 269 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,980 Earl Thomas: Oh, yes, the grand. I was a PA announcer for the 270 00:17:36,980 --> 00:17:40,360 Grand View Steelers. And they're baseball team. No, they're a 271 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:43,180 hockey team in the junior B League. Okay, so, okay. 272 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,760 Janice Porter: So then we got confused. Okay, so I got 273 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:51,220 confused. So, so you're also a baseball fan, though, yes, I am 274 00:17:51,220 --> 00:17:55,900 happy, and you were a New York Yankees fan. Yes, I was my 275 00:17:55,900 --> 00:18:00,060 husband's a lifelong New York Yankees fan. And of course, I 276 00:18:00,060 --> 00:18:03,480 know who Yogi Berra is, and what I love the most about Yogi Berra 277 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,700 were his, his? What are they called? His? Yogi isms. Yogi 278 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:12,300 isms, right? There you go. And no one goes to that restaurant 279 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:16,980 anymore. It's too crowded. That's one of them. I remember 280 00:18:16,980 --> 00:18:23,060 that. And okay, so I'm going to just temper things a little bit, 281 00:18:23,060 --> 00:18:27,500 because you haven't actually talked to Lindsay Bera yet. 282 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:30,140 You're trying to get you've sent her emails and whatever, and she 283 00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:32,120 responded correct or no, no, she 284 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:36,320 Earl Thomas: hasn't responded. She responded to my like of her 285 00:18:36,860 --> 00:18:39,320 her post, because there's a book, of course, 286 00:18:39,380 --> 00:18:42,520 Janice Porter: is she on LinkedIn? Yes, she is on 287 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,160 LinkedIn. Have you tried to connect with her on LinkedIn? 288 00:18:46,180 --> 00:18:51,220 Earl Thomas: Well, I I'm not sure if I've sent a connection 289 00:18:51,220 --> 00:18:56,080 request. I think I'm waiting for her because I got a direct email 290 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,380 to her, which surprised me, that I would get a direct email. I 291 00:18:59,380 --> 00:19:00,120 thought, yeah, but the 292 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:03,120 Janice Porter: problem about that is it could get lost in her 293 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:03,840 junk mail. 294 00:19:05,340 --> 00:19:07,380 Earl Thomas: Well, that's why I'm going to follow up. Yeah, I 295 00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:08,580 will be up again. 296 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:10,980 Janice Porter: But following up how? Because if you follow up by 297 00:19:10,980 --> 00:19:13,680 email, it's still going to go in your junk mail. So that's why I 298 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,920 sometimes recommend that you also try to get to her from 299 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,960 LinkedIn, because that won't get lost, 300 00:19:19,380 --> 00:19:22,280 Earl Thomas: yeah, well, I will send a LinkedIn connection. And 301 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,180 we also, you know, I often respond when she puts, you know, 302 00:19:26,180 --> 00:19:29,240 something out there on Twitter, and she responds to that, 303 00:19:29,420 --> 00:19:31,400 Janice Porter: okay, that's cool. So that's where she hangs 304 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,540 out, is it Twitter? So, so that's someone you really want 305 00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:42,880 to interview. And you said something about you thought 306 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,680 she'd have an agent. What does she do? 307 00:19:45,820 --> 00:19:48,460 Earl Thomas: Well, she has, she's a sports journalist. She's 308 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:49,720 Janice Porter: working, yes, okay, cool. She's 309 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:55,060 Earl Thomas: worked for ESPN, okay, demo reel that she's done, 310 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:58,600 you know, several, there's several clips in there. She has 311 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:04,080 a very interesting. A intro right on her website. So, you 312 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,320 know, once, once we get going, that's what I would use. And, 313 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,060 yeah, she's there anyone very intelligent, very intelligent, 314 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,640 Janice Porter: that's awesome. So is there anyone else that you 315 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,780 want to interview your bucket list? 316 00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:24,500 Earl Thomas: Well, I that's, that's my main one. Okay, 317 00:20:24,980 --> 00:20:29,300 because, go ahead, there is someone that it's been approved 318 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:34,340 by BCIT, but he got really busy. I mean, it had to go through the 319 00:20:34,340 --> 00:20:38,240 marketing department, and they approved it. And now I'm got to 320 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,000 follow up him some more, because, like he said, he's 321 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,020 really busy. And I, all I had to do is look at the timestamp. It 322 00:20:44,020 --> 00:20:49,060 was 2:49am when he sent that email. So I gotta get back the 323 00:20:49,060 --> 00:20:55,540 head of business in in BCIT Business Media, School of 324 00:20:55,540 --> 00:20:56,380 Business and media. 325 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Janice Porter: Okay. Okay, interesting. Well, the first one 326 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,880 more? Well, maybe both. In both cases, I see that you know it, 327 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,540 it seems as though you've gone through who you know, and that's 328 00:21:09,540 --> 00:21:12,180 always the best way. So I love that, because it's all about 329 00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:16,140 relationship building and relationship nurturing, and it's 330 00:21:16,140 --> 00:21:18,360 not what you know, it's who you know. So if you go through 331 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:21,500 people you know, sometimes it's easier to get, to get to the 332 00:21:21,500 --> 00:21:25,580 person you want to get to. And so I hope that those work out 333 00:21:25,580 --> 00:21:30,320 for you. That's That's great. That's really great. Thank you. 334 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,880 Yeah, I, I'm trying to think when there's a guy that I want 335 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,340 to talk to, but I want to finish his book first. I haven't 336 00:21:37,340 --> 00:21:43,600 finished it yet, and and I, I found him because somebody I had 337 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,580 on my podcast was talking about his book, and so I I'm reading 338 00:21:48,580 --> 00:21:52,420 that book, and now I'm going to go back to my the person who was 339 00:21:52,420 --> 00:21:55,180 on my podcast that knows him, and see if I can get an 340 00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:57,700 introduction. Because I always think that's the best way, 341 00:21:59,140 --> 00:22:02,220 better to be introduced by somebody than to go in cold, 342 00:22:02,220 --> 00:22:04,260 right? Yeah, yeah. 343 00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:07,860 Earl Thomas: So that happened with Lindsay, because Ben knew 344 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:12,060 he was part of saber and then the President got back to me, 345 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,080 yeah. 346 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,920 Janice Porter: So that's great. That's really great. Um, what 347 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,800 would you say? I know that one of, one of the things that I 348 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:25,700 think you're doing now is teaching through your podcast 349 00:22:26,420 --> 00:22:30,320 when you do and correct me if I'm wrong, when you do solo 350 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,900 episodes that you're teaching people about how to do 351 00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:34,760 voiceovers and things. Is that correct? 352 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:40,420 Earl Thomas: Yes, I've done different topical episodes, like 353 00:22:40,780 --> 00:22:46,120 how I record and how I use my system. I wrote about success, 354 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,880 and it's interesting. Writing a solo episode, you start with it, 355 00:22:52,420 --> 00:22:54,940 you don't what, what is there? Okay? And then once you start 356 00:22:54,940 --> 00:22:57,700 writing, there's more and there's more and there's more. 357 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,740 So I'm I enjoy the writing part of it. Do 358 00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:06,120 Janice Porter: you? Yeah, not me. I just rather talk. I just 359 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:10,740 rather talk. So what do you find? What is can you think of 360 00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:13,320 someone that that, and you don't have to say who they are, but 361 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,940 that that you felt was your most exciting or most enjoyable or 362 00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:19,860 interesting interview that you've done? 363 00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:24,380 Earl Thomas: Oh, Linda Todd, because she almost died in Gaza. 364 00:23:24,380 --> 00:23:28,040 She came to speak at just pros when we were at the Justice 365 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,600 Institute, and that was another case of, this is really good. 366 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:37,700 And I had to turn it into a two parter. Oh, wow. I like the 367 00:23:37,700 --> 00:23:42,340 writing of that. You know, when I, when I do the prep. Will she 368 00:23:42,340 --> 00:23:48,220 live, you know, like the second part? Will she speak again? Oh, 369 00:23:48,220 --> 00:23:53,680 just, just those little hooks, or those big hooks? Yes. Belinda 370 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,980 Todd was really interesting. You know, the the funny thing about 371 00:23:56,980 --> 00:24:01,560 it was, she was going through terrible things, almost dying. 372 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,720 But this woman had such a great sense of humor the way she told 373 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,700 the story. I mean, yeah, 374 00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:10,740 Janice Porter: listen to that one. 375 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,960 Earl Thomas: I really enjoyed talking to her. 376 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,880 Janice Porter: Oh, that's great. I'll have to listen to that 377 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:20,120 episode. That's amazing. Um, okay, so what advice would you 378 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:23,240 give someone who's starting a podcast today? 379 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:27,500 Earl Thomas: Well, you've got to be prepared. I took a course 380 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,040 from Carl Richards. I got connected to Carl Richards in 381 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,840 Ontario, and I he said, you know, you're you're ready to 382 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,720 start. There's some tweaks you need to do, but you've got the 383 00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:44,200 you've got the microphone, you've got the Mac, you've got 384 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:51,220 the voice to be focused and get all those things that you need 385 00:24:51,220 --> 00:24:55,240 to do, like the artwork. I did several. I did one on ones with 386 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,080 Carl on Canva. And now it just happens really quickly, you 387 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,980 know, I can, I can. Get that artwork, the picture that goes, 388 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:08,520 you gotta be focused and have a strategy. And I did not really 389 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,660 think that we would get to a season four. And it's quite 390 00:25:12,660 --> 00:25:18,540 amazing. I had more topicals in my first season, and then it's, 391 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,000 it's increased. The interviews have increased to about 60% by 392 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,960 season four, 393 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,960 Janice Porter: just in numbers. You mean, yes, okay, yeah, okay, 394 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,820 and your podcast is called Voice power, correct? That's right. 395 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,680 And it's on all of the 396 00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:40,480 Earl Thomas: Yeah. It's on all the directories, yeah, okay, 397 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:47,740 Janice Porter: awesome. And I love your email address. You 398 00:25:47,740 --> 00:25:51,820 take me back to the day Duke Earl, yeah, 399 00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:55,960 Earl Thomas: that was when I was in BCIT and art, art factoro, 400 00:25:56,620 --> 00:26:01,980 he's the program director at 650 and we got to know each other. 401 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,160 He gave me the nickname Dookie. Hey, do 402 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:12,060 Janice Porter: girl, right? Yeah. So wait, I forgot what I 403 00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:14,760 was going to say. I was going to ask you a question. Oh, I know, 404 00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:21,020 because you were in radio for a long time. What would you say? 405 00:26:21,020 --> 00:26:23,900 What do you say about the way radio is now? I mean, it's so 406 00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:25,640 different than it used to be, right? 407 00:26:26,780 --> 00:26:29,600 Earl Thomas: Well, radio has fallen behind because 408 00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:35,180 podcasting, there's more people listening to it. You know this 409 00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:38,960 voice tracking. You know you want to be taught hearing a real 410 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:45,280 person. You know, radio will always exist. They always have 411 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,920 said, Oh, radio is going to fall away. It's not going to be 412 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,540 there. No, it's, it will always be there. But it's changed, 413 00:26:52,540 --> 00:26:56,860 right? It has changed a lot, yeah, because am radio is more 414 00:26:56,860 --> 00:27:01,260 talk, yes, is, is the music? Yeah. 415 00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:06,000 Janice Porter: Um, I'm just trying to think though, yeah, 416 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,500 it's either talk or it's news, solid news, right? Yeah, 417 00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:13,800 Earl Thomas: you got your news stations? Yes. Um, 418 00:27:14,580 --> 00:27:16,860 Janice Porter: they just had, what here in Vancouver, the what 419 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,720 was it? The 75th anniversary of CK and W 420 00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:22,280 Earl Thomas: That's right, yeah. And, 421 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,520 Janice Porter: I mean, that's a station that's got a huge 422 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:31,280 history, and it started a lot of people in in radio, and I have 423 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,460 some, yeah, I still listen to it occasionally. So when I'm in the 424 00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:36,980 car, if I'm not listening to a podcast, because I listen to 425 00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:39,440 podcasts all the time in the car, what's your favorite 426 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,320 podcast? Do you listen to a lot of them. 427 00:27:42,340 --> 00:27:45,220 Earl Thomas: Well, I like Brad Shawna. His coaches call it's 428 00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:47,920 about lacrosse, and he interviews all the coaches. He's 429 00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:50,560 interviewed all the coaches in the National Lacrosse League. I 430 00:27:50,980 --> 00:27:53,440 listened to the one last night. He interviewed Walt Christians, 431 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,180 and he I was finding out how he's helped lacrosse in England. 432 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:02,220 You know, it was quite a, quite a change. I mean, it's, it's got 433 00:28:02,220 --> 00:28:05,160 more. There's more to it now. I mean, there's more people 434 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,280 getting involved. And Walt Christiansen had some really 435 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,740 interesting, funny stories of how he got started with the 436 00:28:10,740 --> 00:28:13,680 Victoria Shamrock. So, oh, there's another one I want to 437 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,840 interview. I want to interview Brad shawnner, 438 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,620 Janice Porter: ah, okay, okay, so you could reach out to him 439 00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:21,560 through his podcast. No doubt, 440 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,720 Earl Thomas: yes, yeah, I know. Fellow 441 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,380 Janice Porter: podcaster, right? Fellow podcaster. Um, so, so you 442 00:28:27,380 --> 00:28:31,820 now you're hockey fan, you're a baseball fan and you're a 443 00:28:31,820 --> 00:28:35,660 lacrosse fan. Lacrosse is the biggest. Is it? Because you 444 00:28:35,660 --> 00:28:38,720 light up when you talk about sports, I can see that lacrosse 445 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,100 is the biggest. Oh, that's interesting. I have a friend who 446 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,620 has two daughter, two granddaughters, who play 447 00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:50,740 lacrosse, box lacrosse and field lacrosse. So and it's such a 448 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,960 it's kind of a minor sport compared to to some of the but 449 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,660 it's still very big here. And is it bigger in Eastern Canada or 450 00:29:00,660 --> 00:29:01,740 Western Canada, 451 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,760 Earl Thomas: eastern and western Canada, it's big, but in 452 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,000 Alberta, it's really grown because they actually had a 453 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,680 Minto Cup where there was an Alberta team, and he's Brad, has 454 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,480 interviewed, you know, Alberta coaches, a number Alberta coach, 455 00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:21,620 Janice Porter: yeah, Can you see yourself morphing to being a 456 00:29:21,620 --> 00:29:26,120 sports podcast. Would that be something you want to do? 457 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,440 Earl Thomas: I like the diversity I have. I'd like to 458 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,800 bring in some more sports. Yeah. I mean, because when I had art 459 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:39,740 on from 6:50am yeah, he's talking about the Canucks and 460 00:29:39,740 --> 00:29:43,420 the Sedins and those interesting things, yeah, so I don't see it 461 00:29:43,420 --> 00:29:45,700 myself going sports, strictly, 462 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,580 Janice Porter: strictly sports. Yeah, yeah, people who have 463 00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:53,620 stories, um, it makes me think that some of the sports writers, 464 00:29:53,620 --> 00:29:55,960 or that not the sports Well, the sports writers, the sports 465 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,080 reporters that are around might, might be, um. Fun to interview, 466 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,520 because they've got stories from, you know, like, the guys 467 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,020 that are still on the air, you know, like that, but aren't as 468 00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:14,700 like, I think Blake price and I think Dan Murphy and those guys. 469 00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:17,460 They're young enough they still want the exposure, but they've 470 00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:22,820 done a fair bit over time, right? Yeah, yeah. So I don't 471 00:30:22,820 --> 00:30:27,740 know all fun and all interesting, and if I can help 472 00:30:27,740 --> 00:30:31,520 you, by the way, in any of those areas, let me know, because it's 473 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,920 always who you know, right? So you know, not what you know. 474 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:34,700 Well, thank 475 00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:36,920 Earl Thomas: you. I would like to do that. Yeah, 476 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:44,320 Janice Porter: that's fun. So I'm just checking if I missed 477 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,700 something, anything here, because I think you did. It says 478 00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:53,560 here 112 projects with diversity. So you just mean the 479 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,600 diversity of what you've done, from voiceovers to stand up 480 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,240 comedy to your mental health work, infomercials, training 481 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,820 workshops, telephone prompts, all of these different things 482 00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:06,540 that you've done. 483 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,360 Earl Thomas: They're all different. Yes, they 484 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,880 Janice Porter: are totally all different. And going forward, 485 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,020 this podcast is just getting more and more interesting, right 486 00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:25,160 for you? And yeah, yeah. So I like to ask my guests one of a 487 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,880 couple of questions, and I'm going to ask you, do you prefer 488 00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:34,640 getting your information through reading, through watching or 489 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,020 through listening? Oh, all three. All three. Okay, 490 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,580 Earl Thomas: because, because you can get more in the second 491 00:31:42,580 --> 00:31:46,240 one or the third one. I'm always looking at, you know, there's 492 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,440 LinkedIn, okay. And is there any information on Facebook? And 493 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,840 where else can I find more information? Well, there's the 494 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,520 website, their website. Yeah, it's all good to have the have 495 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,780 as much content as possible, although you're not going to use 496 00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:01,440 all of it? 497 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,380 Janice Porter: No, of course, no, but it helps you learn about 498 00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:08,820 the person so but when you're not working, what do you love to 499 00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:09,180 do? 500 00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:12,180 Earl Thomas: When I'm not working, what do I love to do? 501 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,680 Sports? Probably sports events. I love to dance. And it's come 502 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,300 back, because I've had a couple of pulled muscles, and a friend 503 00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:24,260 of mine let me know about Zumba gold, and I've been going on 504 00:32:24,260 --> 00:32:28,280 Thursdays at the Edmonds Community Center, and it's a 505 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,580 full hour when I first started going, I thought, Oh, how am I 506 00:32:31,580 --> 00:32:34,460 going to get through this hour? Well, sometimes it hurt too 507 00:32:34,460 --> 00:32:38,000 much, and I had to sit down for a song, but I've been going very 508 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,540 consistently, and then I get a free hot tub, and then also I 509 00:32:43,540 --> 00:32:47,260 can swim a few links. And now I'm, I'm up to last time I 510 00:32:47,260 --> 00:32:51,820 actually did 10 links. Yeah, I was, I love, 511 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,880 Janice Porter: I love Zumba, but my knees won't let me do it. 512 00:32:55,660 --> 00:32:55,960 Well, 513 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,320 Earl Thomas: it's a slower, it's, it's for injuries. Zumba 514 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,940 gold is for injuries. There's a higher based one, but I always 515 00:33:02,940 --> 00:33:04,380 do Zumba gold, yeah. 516 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,400 Janice Porter: Oh, good for you. That's great. Alright, so one 517 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,000 last question. Do you have a piece of business advice that 518 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,540 you'd like to share with my audience? Yes, 519 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,000 Earl Thomas: the most important thing is, you know, you're going 520 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,440 to have good days, you're going to have bad days, but the most 521 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,100 important thing is, don't give up. I mean, you feel it, you 522 00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:28,340 know, there's many times I've wanted to give up but, but I 523 00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:33,560 realize I don't want to lose doing this. I enjoy it. You 524 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,560 know, I'm interacting with people. I'm doing some media. 525 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,100 It's it's great. I really know that it's important don't give 526 00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:44,500 up, no matter what. That's 527 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,260 Janice Porter: great advice. Thank you so much, Earl, and 528 00:33:47,260 --> 00:33:51,820 thank you for being such a great guest on my show. And I think 529 00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:55,480 there's a lot of nuggets there that my audience will appreciate 530 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,440 hearing. I love that your sports a sports fan extraordinaire as 531 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,240 well, because I can talk about that all the time, and this, I 532 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,240 really appreciate that. 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