Hello and welcome to BJGP Interviews.
Speaker AI'm Nada Khan and I'm one of the Associate Editors of the bjgp.
Speaker AThanks for taking the time today to listen to this podcast.
Speaker AToday we're speaking to Dr.
Speaker ARob Perry, who is a gastroenterology Clinical Research Fellow based at Imperial College London.
Speaker AWe're here to talk about the paper he's recently published here in the BJGP titled Evaluating the Role of Fecal Calprotectin in Older Adults.
Speaker ASo thanks, Rob, for joining me here to talk about your work.
Speaker AAnd I guess I just really want to preface this by saying that a lot has changed in the last few years just in terms of testing for inflammatory bowel disease and bowel cancer in general practice.
Speaker ABut I wonder if you could just talk us through this, some of the different guidelines and why you wanted to do this study.
Speaker BOh, yes, thank you for having me.
Speaker BFirstly, and the rationale for the study is that, you know, consultations for gastrointestinal symptoms make up a large number of consultations in primary care.
Speaker BI think the figures around 10%.
Speaker BAnd whilst fecal cow protection is an increasingly well established test for differentiating between inflammatory bowel disease and functional or other gastrointestinal or non inflammatory gastrointestinal diseases, its role in older adults is far less well established.
Speaker BWith varying guidelines for clinicians in primary care, the NICE guidelines make no specific mention, for example, of age, other than that calprotectin should not be used where age is considered a risk factor in the context of certain symptoms.
Speaker BFor suspicion of cancer, the BSG guidelines on IBD use a cutoff of 40, above which they suggest calprotectin is not used.
Speaker BThe something called the NICE York Fecal cow protectant care pathway suggests an age cut above 60, which is a NICE endorsed pathway.
Speaker BSo there's some uncertainty there in the literature about which cutoff should be used for fecal cow protectin.
Speaker BAnd the reason any cutoff is suggested is because data has previously shown that calprotectin lacks sensitivity for diagnosing colorectal cancer.
Speaker BAnd as age is considered a risk factor for colorectal cancer, guidelines normally mandate earlier endoscopic evaluation of patients with GI symptoms in older age groups.
Speaker AAnd can you just talk us through briefly what you did here?
Speaker ASo you looked at patients referred for a colonoscopy at one single centre, so at Imperial College Healthcare Trust.
Speaker ABut just talk us through briefly who was included in the study and what were you looking at specifically?
Speaker BSo looking at patients where calprotectin was being used for diagnostic purposes, so calprotectin is also, as you probably know, well established for monitoring patients with existing ibd, monitoring response to treatment for flares, et cetera.
Speaker BWe were just looking at patients where it was being used for diagnostic purposes.
Speaker BSo any patients with existing IBD were excluded from the study.
Speaker BAnd then, yes, as you said, anyone who had a calprotectin within a six month period back in 2021, who then subsequently within a one year period had a colonoscopy performed at Imperial, which is the local referral centre, that were included in the study.
Speaker BAnd we only looked at adult patients.
Speaker BWe had a cohort of older adults which we used to cut 50 and above, and a younger cohort below that.
Speaker BWe didn't look at pediatric cases, that was how we selected patients.
Speaker BAnd then we reviewed available electronic documentation to ascertain the diagnosis of the patient, looking at clinic betters etc, as well as looking at other tests that patients may have had performed when their symptoms are being evaluated.
Speaker BFit testing, for example.
Speaker BWe also looked at CRP and haemoglobin.
Speaker BBy collecting that data, we were able to ascertain the diagnostic performance of chiroprotectin in the two respective cohorts.
Speaker BAnd also in comparison with some of the other clinical tests that I mentioned.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd as you point out, because these tests might be used in quite a varied fashion depending on patient age or presentation, I suppose it's important to kind of work out what the diagnostic capabilities of them are.
Speaker AAnd I think that's what this study really aimed to achieve.
Speaker AReally.
Speaker BYes, exactly.
Speaker BSo we were trying to look at how calprotectin performed in the older age group compared to the younger age group, and also looking at how its performance relative to fit testing in those two cohorts.
Speaker BWe looked at the performance of calprotectin, the differentiating between inflammatory bowel disease and non organic GI pathology.
Speaker BAnd we also looked at its ability to differentiate between organic GI pathology more generally.
Speaker BSo inflammatory bowel disease, colorectal cancer and other significant GI diagnoses and non organic pathology.
Speaker BThose two questions, which I think are important questions when considering patients presenting with GI symptoms in primary care.
Speaker AAnd just talk us through what you found here.
Speaker AAnd I think the results were really striking in terms of things were different according to age and maybe not surprisingly.
Speaker ABut talk us through that.
Speaker BI think the key findings are firstly that calprotectin remains a sensitive test in both groups.
Speaker BSo sensitivity when using a cutoff of 50 micrograms per gram, which is the nice advised cutoff for considering a positive calprotectin Test suggested by nice.
Speaker BThere are other, you know, there is other data in the literature about altering the cutoff which calprotectin is considered positive, but 50 is the cut, you know, is one of the cut offs we looked at and is what is suggested by, in the NICE guidelines using that cutoff, you get sensitivities of over 90% for diagnosing IBD from non organic GI pathology in both age groups.
Speaker BWhat you see in the older age group is a significantly lower positive predictive value.
Speaker BSo positive predictive value of only about 12%.
Speaker BAnd using that cutoff in the patients who had, again using that cutoff of 50 in the small number of patients who did have colorectal cancer, if you then did try to push up the threshold at which calprotectin is considered positive, as many guidelines do suggest, you would then start to, to miss cases of colorectal cancer, which just highlights one of the important messages of the paper and that is clearly documented in the NICE guidelines that calprotectin shouldn't be used as a biomarker for cancer and if cancer is suspected, patients should be referred on the appropriate urgently suspected cancer pathway.
Speaker BWe also found that calprotectin did perform better than fit tests for diagnosing ibd.
Speaker BBut, but there's also potentially some future work to be done in patients who may have had FIT testing because of concern over potential colorectal cancer.
Speaker BBut in patients where FIT is negative, calprotectin may then have a role as a good rule out test in that group where you've already ruled out suspected cancer.
Speaker BSo that's maybe an area for future work and maybe it just helps to allow us to think about how we may have a more kind of joined up pathway for evaluating patients with lower GI symptoms in primary care.
Speaker AAnd I know some local guidelines might suggest faecal calprotectin alongside FIT in younger age groups.
Speaker AWhat are your thoughts about this based on the results of this work?
Speaker BI think it depends what symptoms the patient's presenting with.
Speaker BI think if patients present with symptoms that according to the NICE guideline that's potentially suggestive of colorectal cancer, then obviously they should be evaluated, you know, appropriately with FIT testing or, you know, onward referral.
Speaker BAnd I think, you know, I think calprotectin clearly has a role in younger patients for differentiating between non organic GI diseases and ibd.
Speaker BI think in older patients it's, you know, clearly for a much, if a tool is for a much narrower group and you know, shouldn't be used where cancer is suspected, which for A large number of patients presenting with GI symptoms.
Speaker BIn this group it will be.
Speaker BAlthough there may be this subgroup of older patients where because calprotectin maintains a high sensitivity, it does still have a role potentially that fit negative group that we were talking about.
Speaker BThough I think further research is needed to find exactly what that group is.
Speaker AAnd I think just generally from my discussions with other GPs there is sometimes a bit of uncertainty about which tests should be used in patients presenting with lower GI symptoms.
Speaker AAnd I wonder what you want to tell GPs based on the results of this study and your background about the use of faecal calprotectin in fit.
Speaker BYes, I think that the study highlights and what is already in the guidelines that calprotectin shouldn't be used if colorectal cancer is suspected.
Speaker BSo that's the first thing to say.
Speaker BI think there is a role for calprotectin clearly in patients under the age of 50, younger adults representing the GI symptoms without, you know, without, without obviously alarm symptoms.
Speaker BBut I think you should calculating should be used cautiously in the over 50s.
Speaker BWhilst it remains a, you know, a sensitive test, it clearly lacks in specificity the poor positive predictor value.
Speaker BAnd as we said, it is not a test for cancer which is most or a large, a large proportion of patients in that age group who have lower GI symptoms will meet criteria for referral on a cancer pathway.
Speaker BI think that's the key message for the study really.
Speaker ASo stay aligned to the current two week wait guidelines clearly.
Speaker ABut just think carefully about calprotectin testing in those older patients.
Speaker BI think the study confirms it's a sensitive test, but that again should not be used as a test for colorectal cancer.
Speaker BAnd so maybe in a proportion of patients where who don't make referral for referral on a cancer pathway, it may have a role due to its high sensitivity.
Speaker BBut with those caveats, fair enough.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAny other main findings you want to highlight from this paper?
Speaker BSo I think, yeah, I think those, the points we've discussed are the main points.
Speaker BI think it is interesting to note that for the diagnosis of ibd, calprotectin did outperform FIT testing, which I think suggests there is still a role for calprotectin in the diagnosis of ibd.
Speaker BSome studies suggested that FIT tests may well be positive in the context of ibd, particularly where there's obviously bleeding present, which often may be with more severe inflammation.
Speaker BI think it highlights that somewhere in the pathway for evaluating patients in primary care with GI symptoms, particularly in younger patients, there is likely still to be a role for calprotectin.
Speaker BSo I think that's an interesting additional finding.
Speaker BConfirms, you know, confirms what most GPs are already doing.
Speaker BI think beyond that, I think that the key points, as we said, are whilst calprotectin maintains its sensitivity in older adults, caution should be used on exactly which patients it's used in, in that group.
Speaker AAnd as you said, it's important to look at the wider clinical picture and there will be a cohort of patients with potentially a strong family history or symptoms strongly suggestive of inflammatory bowel disease, where you might want to think carefully about what you're testing.
Speaker BI think you also, I mean, you do also have to ask with those patients whether actually ultimately those patients need referral for endoscopy, irrespective of what their calprotectin shows.
Speaker BYou know, even if cancer is not suspected, if there's a very high suspicion of IBD and, you know, you still might consider onward referral even in the context of a negative calprotectin, if you have a very high index of suspicion, they may be patients where is still appropriate, maybe through advice and guidance or discussions with colleagues.
Speaker BYou may not want just to draw the line at a negative calprotectin.
Speaker BBut yes, those are the kind of patients where you aren't being referred on a cancer pathway, where a calprotectin is of potential benefit.
Speaker BBut like any test, it's important to interpret it in the clinical context.
Speaker BAnd if it's not, if there are other things you're concerned about, you know, it's only one test and needs to be interpreted in the context of the patient's symptoms and their individual risk factors.
Speaker AI think this is really interesting work.
Speaker AAgain, looking at that sort of primary secondary care interface and how tests are being conducted, how referral pathways are being designed or co designed.
Speaker AFrom your perspective as a secondary care colleague, where do you think the next steps are from this work and where do you want to see this research going next?
Speaker BWe always say that we want more data and want to be able to look at things in more depth.
Speaker BI think that's true, particularly for trying to work out where calprotectin and fit testing fit in more widely.
Speaker BWith patients presenting with GI symptoms across all age ranges, I think it can be difficult for gps to know exactly which set of guidelines they're going to.
Speaker BI think trying to join all these things up to work out exactly which pathway which patient should be on is important.
Speaker BThat's why I mentioned that in older adults there may be potentially a role for calprotect in the context of a negative fit.
Speaker BSo in that lower risk subgroup of older adults and I think some more work looking at that would be interesting and I think also for adults more generally, including younger adults with need to work out how to use calprotectin in the most effective way possible, are there certain symptom groups that should be targeted with calprotectin?
Speaker BSome of the data out there suggests that, as we talked about earlier, that calprotectin can often result in a low diagnostic yield of subsequent investigations, that is lots of false positives.
Speaker BAnd I think trying to make sure we're using calprotectin as effectively as possible and not exposing patients to unnecessary investigation is also important.
Speaker BAnd I think more looking into that would be interesting.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker ASome great pointers for future research, but I think that's probably a great place to wrap things up.
Speaker ASo I just wanted to say thanks very much for joining me.
Speaker BThank you very much.
Speaker AAnd thank you all very much for your time here and for listening to this BJGP podcast.
Speaker ARob's original research article can be found on bjgp.org and the show notes and podcast audio can be found@bjgplife.com and that's the last podcast for this season of BJGP Podcast.
Speaker AWe'll be back again towards the end of January 2026 for more interviews showcasing current research and clinical practice articles from the Journal.
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