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It's going to be awesome. Today, we're going to talk about voting.

We're going to talk about conservative versus liberal. We're going to talk about change versus

staying the same. And we don't usually do conversations like this, just in its 10 minutes of tennis.

But are we going to stay the same or we're going to change? It's election day in the United States.

This is a fun conversation, but it's dangerous as well. And I think you're like me. We very often

don't have this conversation, definitely not publicly and definitely not on the record.

So today, on the record, Justin, who are you voting for? Tennis or Pickleball?

I was going to say, I was going to tell everybody, good luck with your voting today.

Being the non-American right now, I don't have to worry about it. So good luck to you all.

And with the amount of the vibe that's going on, I just hope this country can pull

itself together over the next 12 months, as all I can say, because it's going to be an interesting show

these next few months, either way. So anyway, good luck today, everyone. As far as tennis and

Pickleball, well, I was definitely an anti- Pickleball for many years when it first came out.

And I've probably fallen more closer to the Pickleball game for the reason that I see someone's

joy that people are getting exercise, that they're actually getting healthy. It went a little crazy,

but like always, it gets a fad and it goes a little crazy and they start playing at night and

under glow and all in shopping malls where the balls can't even bounce right in the skids.

I mean, just it got a little out of control of the whole Pickleball thing. But overall,

it's been an incredible invention that I don't know how he picked it up and how he called it a

bloody kitchen. But you know, it's done well. I'm proudly wearing my Puerto Rican shirt today

because we won the World Cup in Pickleball, which is pretty amazing out of 32 nations.

So yeah, it's, look, they're very competitive. People are getting a good release and they've been

healthy just like a game of tennis. But yeah, we can't correlate the two sports just as far as

athleticism, the level of cognitive issue. I mean, the whole works. But you know, I'm sure Pickleball

people will argue with me that the reflexes have to be faster. So, you know, there's all sorts of,

you know, back and forth arguments that we can talk about, you know, like Trump, Harris,

tennis, Pickleball. It could get very, very exciting if you bring in a fancy Pickleball player. But

that may be our next call is to get the top rated Pickleball coach. And we start going head to head

with the differences between Pickleball and tennis. But as far as I'll consider, there is no comparison.

So yeah, you're voting for tennis. You're on that, I'd say, that the old school side tennis

been around for thousands of years. Don't change it. Tennis is great.

Well, tennis is always going to be that way. I mean, we can't, you can't put the two together.

You know, so at the same time, people have now related, you know, Pickleball into tennis because we've

changed the USPTA, right? So, I don't know. Again, it's all going to be new times for tennis and

Pickleball and racquet sports while it's going to be new times where it's going to be Trump or Harris.

So that's probably what the most interesting thing is. The one thing you talked about politics,

I brought up Curios and Cicipaz because that's sort of what tennis brings as well as to what

people are doing now. And so I guess what I'm trying to help people vote is think about your most

craziest rivalry game tennis match you've ever made. And that might start helping you make a vote or

decision today. But there is a lot of similarities as to what the game of tennis could do on a tennis court.

You can get heated. People can say what they don't want to say. It gets very emotional.

And at the end of the day, there's still a shake of the hands and business goes on. So

Well, before we get to Cicipaz and Curios, which I do want to have that conversation,

my next who are you voting for? Question. USPTA or RSPA?

I'll definitely USPTA. Okay. So you don't think the change in this case. So if USPTA is the conservative

and RSPA is the liberal and you've got change on one end and stay the same on the other,

your USPTA, that's where you would go with that. You don't want the change in that case.

Well, I guess the interesting comment is the history of the USPTA always came in as a

racket sports history. So I think that's what they tried to utilize and expand into that. And USPTA

is the educational side. Obviously, USTA, if we see the USTA switch to a US Racket Sports Association,

that's when I think I will have something to say. They're just not the same. And I've said this

a long time, like create another association. Okay. Another Racket Sports Association. I don't know,

but because tennis has always been out on its own that way. But like you said, I'm open-minded

to everything. So if they bring a good point of view that helps everything and helps people,

I mean, at the end of the day, we play tennis for the love of the sport, but we also play for a sport,

you know, for the love of staying healthy, feeling good, and what it brings to the community.

So if it brings something more, then I'm definitely open-minded to listen.

Well, and for you and me as tennis coach types, we also don't just play to stay healthy. We coach,

and we teach, and we play because it's part of our business. And that's where the USPTA comes in,

because it's the business side, the educational side for the coaches. Now, if they're going to do that

and say, "Hey, let's just gobble up all these other Racket Sports as well." I would think that's a good

direction to go. But again, the conservative side says, "We've done this for thousands of years.

This is the way it should be. We, you know, pickleball isn't tennis. And when badminton, are you kidding me?"

Yeah, well, I mean, if you want to, you know, you compare what people make in either sports. I mean,

you can look at it in all different ways, right? It's sort of as being out there as the elite

Racket Sport for a very long time. So it is very hard to compile them together. But at the end of the day,

if it's helping people getting healthy and coaches being more educated, I guess, and given more tools,

there's a lot of coaches out there that possibly could do better at being on a pickleball court

health wise than being on a tennis court. So, you know, if it gives a pro more opportunity to continue

doing what they love and make money, then I guess I'm all for it. Last question. Seats the past or

Kirios? I'm not giving the listeners any context. You and I know what we're talking about.

What Seats the past, soft, is he soft? Was Kirios a bully? Was he just being a jerk? Where do you come

down on that whole thing? This place was definitely big soft as far as I could say. You know, and I can talk

as you was. Kirios, I know what you know, I know him very well and I know what he's talking about.

But on the other hand, we can go back to the American days, right? As I said, Jimmy Connist, John

Mac and wrote, and he wrote it, it was quote verbal. Agacy can be verbal, right? They knew where to turn it

down though. And that's what Cici Paz was talking about is that he just wouldn't stop the talking. But

it also is just part of the game. So, you can talk about noise. The crowds make a noise while you're

playing tennis. When you're hitting a ball and you hit a shot and it lands on the line and the crowd

goes, "Woo!" You know, you still have to keep playing, landed on the line. You know, so don't talk about

the noise. It's really basically saying, "If I'm letting this guy get in my head, that's being soft

as far as I'm concerned." So, you're on the soft side. I'm on the Kirios with being a jerk side.

I think it's interesting to me because Cici Paz at one point said, "Kirios, I'm sure was a bully

when he was younger." And I don't think that's true at all. I think Kirios was bullied.

And I think he was the one picked on and I think he does everything in his life to flip that script as an

adult, as a successful adult. I would totally 100% agree with that. He was short. He was only a little

guy to the age of almost 15, a little plump kid. So, no way was it his bully. He was the other way around

as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, in Australia, he was littler. He was overweight. He was brown skin.

He talks about the racism all the time. Like, he was the kid that was beat down as a kid.

Nope. Yep. And then, but the thing is, in my mind probably thinks psychologically, he uses that as

an excuse to be able to flip the script and say, "Well, you know what? Now I'm successful and I play

basketball with real men and I'm stuck out here playing tennis with Cici Paz." You know what? I don't

know. I would target, you know what? Maybe they were both wrong. I'm good with that. Cici Paz,

you're a little soft. But man, if you've got that guy who's just pushing your buttons and pushing

your buttons and pushing your buttons, we all know people like that. And pushing and pushing and

pushing. And eventually, when I pop, is that really on me? Well, and the other way around, right?

He still had to play everybody else. Right? And what Federer just did is let the record do the talking.

I mean, it's just as simple as that. Not everybody can be that way. Ah, still part of the game,

it's part of the game. We're all competitive. Even in, even in, I'm sure, impeccable with things so

close, there's a lot of stuff being said as well. Yeah. All right. Well, in this case, 10 minutes of

tennis, we talked a little bit, we talked about politics, but we actually didn't talk politics,

which is good because I don't like doing that. Definitely not in public. But your USPTA, not RSPA,

that would be your vote. Your vote is tennis, not pickleball, and your vote is CZTPOS with soft. So

in this case, I think I know, you know, where are you in American? I might be able to guess

which way you go, but we're not, we're not going there. Justin, I appreciate your time. This has been

10 minutes of tennis with World Rennon, tennis coach, Australian and Puerto Rico. Justin, you know,

thank you, sir. I appreciate it. We'll see you next week. Thank you.

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