Dr. Jim: Thanks for joining us today. This is your friendly neighborhood town strategy nerd, Dr. Jim. In order to execute any successful transformation, you need to be equipped with a PhD. Pig headed discipline. It's easy to fall in the trap of trying to boil the ocean. After all, you want to make an impact when you get in the big chair, right? What if it's the opposite approach that gets you the big wins? Pig headed discipline around a key thing is the way to make an impact.

One of the approaches to make massive impact is to focus on designing and launching a collective Efficacy program in the K through 12 space. In this con-versation, we'll walk through how you design and launch a program and what you can expect to encounter during that launch process. So who's going to be guiding us through this journey?

We have Paul Enderly. Who is presently the superintendent of the Oak Lawn Hometown School District 123 in Illinois, who's going to be guiding us through this discussion. He's got experience as an educational leader and has been in this space for 30 years as a teacher, coach, and school [00:01:00] administrator.

He's a proud triple graduate of Concordia. University in Chicago, earning his bachelor's in 93 masters in 98 and his doctorate in 2014. So we have two doc-tors on the show. This is going to be nerdy as all hell. And all of his continuing education has been in the field of education, leadership and education.

He's interested in learning new things in the field of education, practicing serv-ant leadership. Promoting effective systemic change and developing collabora-tive relationships in order to build people and foster success within learning communities. He and his wife, Amy are the happy parents of three children and reside in Oakland, Illinois.

Paul, welcome to the show.

[00:01:39] Dr. Paul Enderle: Hi, Jim. Glad to be here.

[00:01:41] Dr. Jim: I think this is going to be an interesting discussion because we haven't done a deep dive on collective efficacy. So this should be pretty in-teresting to dig into. I think the first order of business before we actually dive into that part of the conversation is to get behind the scenes a little bit and un-derstand a little bit more about [00:02:00] you and the district that you serve.

One of the things that I'm curious about is beyond what was mentioned in your bio, what were some of the key moments in your career that helped shape your leadership philosophy

[00:02:13] Dr. Paul Enderle: yes, I have many influences in my life and I think those influences are the the keys to how I've shaped my leadership and why I'm doing what I'm doing now as a superintendent. I think back to even my elemen-tary school principal. who was influential in my life and who shaped me.

And one of the things that he taught me and some of some of those who I've looked up to in my life, have been, through the lens of the servant leadership I think to lead effectively, you have to be able to, communicate, collaborate and connect with people and really seek to serve them first.

Ahead of yourself. And that's always been a tenet of mine, that's something that drives me in the work I do whether it be when I was a teacher, coach, as a prin-cipal, and [00:03:00] now as a superintendent.

[00:03:01] Dr. Jim: So it's interesting that you describe servant leadership as part of the leadership pillars or principles that you stick to. And what's interest-ing about is that just about everybody talks about how they want to be a servant leader or they adhere to servant leader principles and then you watch them in the wild and it can be a completely different thing.

So tell us a little bit more about how you built. The capability or the discipline to actually execute servant leadership versus just talk about it. How does that show up on a day to day basis throughout your career?

[00:03:33] Dr. Paul Enderle: It's hard. It's not an easy approach to take. But I like it because I think it's, there's a flexibility and adaptability to it. It is definitely one that requires someone to really be a listener. And to make sure that you talk about day to day, making sure you build time and structures in every day to talk to people, to connect with people, to make sure that you're listening to people and the work [00:04:00] you do.

And that, through the lens of being a district level leader, creating structures that allow for collaboration and making sure people know offhand how you That level of collaboration is ultimately going to impact your decisions namely in ad-vance to ensure that if if you ultimately need to make a command decision, that you try to be transparent with that, and you try to let people know that you're listening to many things, but as you're listening to things, ultimately you're go-ing to make a decision, maybe in isolation of that but then you could also, at some points, talk a little bit about, the idea of creating a shared vision or a shared decision around something.

So I think trying to get ahead of it, but I think it's about creating time and creat-ing structures that allow Communication and collaboration to flow and as a leader provides you that opportunity to listen more than you talk.

[00:04:57] Dr. Jim: I like how you emphasize communication as [00:05:00] part of your servant leadership practices. And I think effective communication can tell you a whole lot. One of the things that I'm curious about is how have you overlaid. That communication into a situational leadership framework that influences your servant leadership mindset because servant leadership can't work with everybody because if somebody isn't at a level of capability on a giv-en thing, you can't lead them that way.

So tell us a little bit about how you've weaved all of that together to make sure that you are leading the person sitting across from you in the way that's appro-priate to their capabilities.

[00:05:36] Dr. Paul Enderle: Sure. I think a lot of it is about your mindset, not only about communication or servant leadership, but it's about your mindset as a leader. When you look across from someone or you're collaborating together with a group and you're, I think you have to think a lot with development in mind. And I do think that one of the great responsibilities of a leader is to really try to get the best out of [00:06:00] people and to try and through that perspec-tive, try to multiply their strengths.

So learning about them and making sure that you're speaking and leading peo-ple with development in mind, I think is crucial to, to that information. Cause you're absolutely right. Not everyone understands servant leadership. It's not everyone's frame in any way. And but I do feel like people are inherently moti-vated by wanting to improve.

Wanting to get better and trying to find people who can help them get better at what they do. And through a perspective of servant leadership and your ability to be able to communicate with people. I think if people see that you're trying to work to help them improve individually, improve their career, improve them-selves as a person.

I think it's really motivating and I think that really helps. with trying to build that capacity from, to that person across from you or that group you're trying to lead?

[00:06:55] Dr. Jim: really like how you said that you like to approach these things [00:07:00] with a development mindset. And I think that's an important lesson that everybody needs to pay attention to. Switching gears a little bit. One of the other important things that is going to be important for the listeners to un-derstand is the landscape of the district that you serve.

[00:07:12] Dr. Paul Enderle: Sure. I, first and foremost, I feel absolutely blessed to be in a district where I believe to have the greatest students, the great-est families, the greatest staff in the world. And I believe that. And our commu-nity the Oaklawn hometown community is located in the Southwest. Side near Chicago, Illinois.

We actually share a border with the southwest side of Chicago. We are a subur-ban school system that's relatively landlocked. The village of Oak Lawn and the city of Hometown comprise about 60, 000 total people. Our, my district alone, we have currently seven attendance centers. We have an early childhood center, five elementary schools that serve children from kindergarten through fifth grade.

Thank you for your time. And a middle school that serves our [00:08:00] 8th graders. And just a few things unique about us is we we believe in the value of every child as such. We manage our own special ed population. We try to ser-vice as many of our students we can, within our schools as possible.

We have a growing English language learner. Demographic in our district. Over the course of the past 20 years, that demographic has grown about 20%. Back in 2005, we were about 5%. Now we're about 25%. So about one in four of every one of our kids in every classroom is an English language learner.

And we are growing, our demographic and our free and reduced lunch popula-tion has been growing slightly as has our Hispanic population in our communi-ty. Our demographics are very consistent with those districts around us but we just have. Great kids, great families and something special about our communi-ties.

I think our Our schools are connected to a larger community in oklahoma and hometown. It's very connected excellent [00:09:00] libraries excellent park dis-tricts Almost I feel like almost every one of our kids are involved in a variety of different activities outside of school whether it be Little League Baseball and Softball.

Drama. Music. We just have our, we're very blessed to have a great community where our kids and families are engaged in a lot of different activities not just school related, but community related.

[00:09:22] Dr. Jim: That's a really good picture that you painted. The diversity and all sorts of different aspects within that district it presents an interesting set of priorities that you might have to tackle when when you get in the big chair. So when you did get into the superintendency within that district. What were your observations in terms of, hey, these are all the things that I could potential-ly work on?

Walk us through that process of how you identified the critical piece that you wanted to focus on during your time in in the district.

[00:09:57] Dr. Paul Enderle: Absolutely. When I started as [00:10:00] superin-tendent, one of the things I saw you know, in our school system is not only were we in a school community that, has been going through some, at that time even now, rather subtle changes, but changes As well, changes anyway, but one of the things I felt our system lacked was a more of a systems approach to teach-ing and learning along with a lot of effort put into long term planning.

I felt like we were doing a lot of very good things. Some of those things didn't seem to have firm foundations and seem to come and go rather quickly. So one of the things I did as a new superintendent is I worked collaboratively with the board, the community to develop a pretty solid, Strategic planning process and that strategic planning process was more geared towards not only planning in the moment, but looking at the school district and what the school district could be.

In three to five years. And this [00:11:00] is my 11th year as superintendent. We are currently going through our third iteration of strategic planning in district one 23. And I believe that's made all the difference in the world because it's giv-en us a North star. It's given us key pillars to focus on and to to move forward with.

We have four key goals. In District 123 that have been longstanding now for the past six or seven years, and that's whole child success, active, engaged learning, operational excellence and community spirit. Everything we do filters from those pillars. A great example would be a number of years ago, we identified a need for getting more of our three and four year olds engaged in preschool learning.

And just this year. Based on a grant we applied for a couple years ago, we were able to open up a seventh attendance center. We have a currently an early child-hood center that just opened this year with 260 third and fourth graders. And we feel like that's going to help us relative to readiness and getting our kids more ready for the [00:12:00] elementary section.

But I can say that if it wasn't for, Yeah. The long term vision and the visionary planning and the financial foundations we've set, we would not have been able to do that. I really feel as though, when I came on board We're a school district with a strong reputation, with great people, but I felt like we lacked a little bit of that long term vision.

And I think that's something that I would highly recommend to any district looking to be progressive and to move forward. To really spend dedicated time with the board and with the community to draft long term strategic plans.

[00:12:36] Dr. Jim: Before we dig into the strategic planning aspect of it and the collective efficacy aspect of it, I want to Take a step back and dig into some-thing that you mentioned, which was when you first took over the district, you knew, or at least you observed that there was a gap in systems thinking or sys-tems approach to the district.

[00:13:00] When you say that? Tell us a little bit about what you mean.

[00:13:03] Dr. Paul Enderle: Major gaps occurred because Probably a decade before I even became superintendent, the school district was run in a very site based manner. And, we had five or six different schools, in different geograph-ical locations, really doing five and six different things. To the point where, just things That should be aligned like assessment and curriculum were misaligned and a third grade student in one school was doing something very different than a third grade student in another school.

Seeing some of those gaps and then, of course, seeing the data and the incon-sistent levels of data we saw at some of our schools, we knew we had to bring bring the district together and create more. Thank you. More of a unified vision around what we did in the school system. We were also having some issues with finances as well and doing some deficit spending and some questionable ways.

So we shored that up. We set some priorities. About [00:14:00] 10 years ago with finances and we've been able to successfully balance the budget now for about 12 years in a row and that, that makes a big difference when you can build financial infrastructure around the systems that you're developing that helps with the initial alignment, but then you have to work with the leadership team to, implement and align things as consistently as they can.

So that's where the, like the genesis of that came from. But the efforts we've made with our strategic plan have really helped fortify and keep that alignment strong

[00:14:30] Dr. Jim: That's good context in terms of identifying the systems gaps and how you use some of your strategic planning to shore up those gaps. Now, when I opened the show, I talked about this conversation being focused on designing and launching and executing a collective efficacy program.

What was the genesis of that decision? What was happening that had you think-ing that this is the direction that we need to shift to in order to build a better dis-trict?

[00:14:56] Dr. Paul Enderle: Absolutely. It really has to do with the research that [00:15:00] we. We've studied about, what are the high yield strategies? If we could really get our hands around a couple things through a lens of teaching and learning, what would be those handful of things that we could do that would give us our greatest return on investment?

And if we focus on those things and really get laser focused on that, how can we, how could that serve to, better develop and grow our system? And we know, and research would indicate that the greatest influence that the greatest influence on achievement at any level is the influence of a teacher.

We've always been committed to developing our staff, and I felt like that was a strength of our district even prior to, to, to myself stepping in as a superinten-dent, and I wanted to build that. I wanted to grow that. I wanted to take that strength even more, and I started looking at, research from Marzano, research from Hattie that showed that the value of this idea of efficacy.

That this idea that if we could ingrain in people a belief that, a belief first in our students, secondly, a belief in our [00:16:00] capacity as adults to be able to teach our students well, that could go a long way. And it's a tough thing to oper-ationalize a belief, a mindset. And we researched it. We went through the, our leadership team went to a collective efficacy workshop a number of years ago, the pandemic hit.

And, Here in our strategic plan through much of my leadership and encourage-ment, I built in one of our goals was, through, growing a qualified. Teaching staff. One of the elements we wanted to look at through that plan was, how do we operationalize collective efficacy? I started reading a lot of the literature and some of the things done by author Robin Jackson, who advocates for a 90 day school improvement planning process.

And, in that school improvement planning process the thought behind it is to simplify An approach around a singular goal, and that singular goal has to in-corporate 100 percent of the students that you serve. And that immediately caught my eye [00:17:00] because right away, I doubted it. I said, this is too vi-sionary.

This is too grand. That this doesn't have really the practical chops that I think a good actionable strategic plan needs. But as I read more, I realized that the de-velopment of a 100 percent goal in connection to a 90 day plan, Is set in place to create a mindset around which the staff believes.

In 100 percent of our kids and that we believe that we can make a difference for all of our students And in right away that you know that triggered in me Hey, here's a way a possible gateway into us creating some of an operationalized sys-temic approach into developing more collective efficacy in our system.

So that's the pathway we started on about a year ago with my leadership team to start studying it looking into it because I wanted to get a lot of buy in. At the principal and at the the kind of the middle leadership level of our school [00:18:00] system, the people who are really called upon to implement vision.

At a high level and that's where we began that journey of looking into Robin Jackson's work and studying it picking it apart Analyzing it seeing how it could add value to our school system.

[00:18:15] Dr. Jim: So it's interesting that you described the process that you went through to land on this. One of the things that that I would think would be difficult is you've gone through one and a half or two different strategic plan-ning cycles. And I'd imagine those things have a bunch of different things that you needed to do to accomplish those goals.

And then you pivot to The new strategic plan, a focus on collective efficacy where they're focusing in on one thing. That had to be a pretty big shift in think-ing. So how did you get everybody else on board with shifting from all of these different targets in your previous plans to, what I talked about, what I described as pigheaded discipline around one thing in the beginning of the show.

[00:18:59] Dr. Paul Enderle: It really [00:19:00] was an effort in conversation in collaboration in talking about it we engaged our leadership team in a study

On the topic. So we were able to talk a little bit about and open the door up to that self doubt and to that that thinking that, maybe this was impossible or really hard to do. We sometimes as educators we have a lot of data. We look at and I find that some of it, and it's great to have all this, these layers of data, but some of it gets a little bit overwhelming and sometimes irrelevant.

I found that as we were looking at this and saying, Hey maybe if we just focus on our student growth, maybe that's the one metric that if we were to have one thing, what would it be? And the leadership team, looked around and said, it would be, we want our kids to grow.

We want our kids to enter our school system. In August and leave our school system in June being better for it and the way we track that is really looking at whether or not our kids are growing in our classrooms. So we looked and we, we like many school systems. [00:20:00] Now we use the NWEA map assess-ment 3 times a year to gauge math and reading achievement and it does a great job of developing and showing us.

Pathways to individual growth goals for students and we're very easy very simply able to track the growth of our kids. So I think one of the ways we were, I was able to get some buy in with my team was through the simplified ap-proach of just simply looking at growth data because we know that if the kids grow, other positive things are going to happen.

We're going to see happier kids. We're going to see happier teachers. We're go-ing to maybe see more satisfied parents. We're going to, hopefully, maybe even see a stronger response to some of the social and emotional needs of our kids. Confidence levels grow. So using data. And using a more simplified approach to data, I think, helped with that.

[00:20:47] Dr. Jim: So that makes sense what you described in terms of the work that you and the direct leadership team did to get yourself up to speed in this new way of thinking.

And once you're aligned there that's [00:21:00] one part of the process of this transformation exercise. But the other part of the process is you might want to do all of these things, but there's going to be an obvious set of skills gaps. That exists across your leadership team that need to be bridged so that you can actual-ly successfully execute because this is a pretty different way of thinking or act-ing within the district.

So what were the things that you did to help bridge those gaps and knowledge and capabilities so that everybody on the leadership team was equipped with the right tools to execute this well?

[00:21:34] Dr. Paul Enderle: Absolutely. And I think the biggest thing we did is we provided our leadership team with a coaching opportunity. We realized and we've had an instructional coaching model in District 1 23 since 2015. We've invested time and resources to coaching up our teachers, coaching up our staff, and we realized moving into an arena where the landscape of education is changing are our [00:22:00] leaders.

really need a level of coaching as well. On top of some of the work we did with our book study and with going to workshops and just simply talking about this we hired a coach for our leadership team and her role, it's a part time role, but her role is to work individually with our building level leadership.

To helping them advance this 90 day, 100 percent goal SIP plan and to give them in the moment what they need support because what one of the things we've found that, in some schools with some principles this idea was. You know immediately accepted and it was something that has been moving really slowly other principals other leaders other schools It's going a little bit slower So we wanted to make sure that we provided support and development for our leader-ship team in a manner that differentiated their needs lead school leadership and educational leadership is very [00:23:00] complex and how Implementation and how change implementation takes place depending on the school, depending on the dynamic of a group can come in a minute, show up in many different shapes and sizes.

So we felt like a coaching model would be one to help us provide that in the moment support for our leadership team to help encourage them and to help de-velop their leadership capacity to implement this process with fidelity.

[00:23:27] Dr. Jim: So it's interesting that the existing structure that you had within the district already had coaching resources at the front line, and then the change for your organization was to embed that higher up in the organization. Normally, it's the other way around in a lot of other places, and at least in the private sector, one of the things that I'm curious about is that when you think about coaching in general, especially when it comes to bringing in external coaches, a lot of organizations look at that as like a fluffy exercise. You can't re-ally measure the impact of that. You can't really see any direct [00:24:00] ROI.

How did you get over that? obstacle when you presented the idea of, Hey, we need to get our leadership tier coaches or coaching so that they can better exe-cute.

[00:24:11] Dr. Paul Enderle: Sure. I, I think again, going back to our strategic plan calls us to lead with development in mind. So having various perspectives, having even sometimes an outside perspective of someone who has a vast expe-rience and knowledge base of, Successfully leading schools come in and help support a unified effort.

I think it is greatly valuable. We are going to be looking at measuring our school improvement process, this 90 day process in a variety of ways, not just looking at the conditional growth index of how our students are performing, which is probably the number one metric we're going to look at, but we're also going to be doing some.

Some focus group work with our staff and our leadership, along with an annual climate survey that we give our staff, which doesn't [00:25:00] necessarily spe-cifically measure efficacy. But what it does do is it helps measure. Other ele-ments that lead up to efficacy how well are we collaborating together?

How safe do people feel in school, or how safe do they feel to share ideas, in school? What, what do people believe about the direction of the district? Is the district providing clear vision and support for staff? These are the things, some of the things that we measure on an annual basis.

We also use something here in Illinois called the five essentials survey, which is something that, that our staff takes and provides us with some really great feed-back on. So we're hoping after a year of implementing this 90 day SIP plan, im-plementing this 100 percent vision, we're hoping to see some of that climate.

Survey data come back in a way that shows that the efficacy in which we oper-ate has actually increased.

[00:25:54] Dr. Jim: This is an interesting pivot and journey that you've been on and the results are going to be coming [00:26:00] in over a period of time, but you haven't had any immediate results yet that we can talk about. So when you think about what the future will look like. How are you measuring success based off of this pivot?

What are the things that you're going to be looking for that indicate that you've made progress and you're shaping the district in this new way?

[00:26:19] Dr. Paul Enderle: I think, initially at the forefront, we are going to be looking at more heavily, more concentrated at student growth. I think it's go-ing to require us to again ask that salient question of if we didn't get 100 percent of our kids to grow from point A to point B what's happening with the kids who are growing?

What are we doing right? How are we using that data when we see kids or we see teachers or classrooms thriving? What are they maybe doing that sets them apart? It'll also ask, help us ask the question of what are we doing when kids aren't learning? At the levels they need to and growing at the levels they need to.

So we're definitely going to [00:27:00] be looking at that, specifically and that growth model. I think it's also going to cause us to take a look at how we are as-sessing students locally because we do see a very vast. Discrepancy between how our students perform on state and national standardized tests and how they perform locally.

We tend to our students perform very well locally, and sometimes not as well on state national tests. We're looking to compare those. We're also looking at a number of climate surveys to survey our staff we're hoping to develop a similar type of survey with our families to see if they're seeing a difference in the moti-vation levels of their students when they're coming home.

Are they excited about school? Are they talking about school specifically? Are they excited and encouraged to come every day? These are all elements that are going to be important to us that we're going to be looking at. We've developed a process, a systemic process called quality review that we're going to be engaging in [00:28:00] intentionally three times a year, which will circle together key leadership.

From the district level from the school level to really focus on that data. I just alluded to and to really take a look at it, but more importantly, to make sure that as an outcome of that conversation, we're developing action plans that we feel can align to making our system stronger and stronger as we go.

So we're looking forward to systemically, maybe simplifying. The level of data we have a bit but also looking at both the. The quantitative achievement growth of our students compared to some of that qualitative data of the adults in our system, like our staff and our families, to see if that will help us determine next steps.

[00:28:46] Dr. Jim: Great conversation. Paul and I appreciate you walking us through this. I want you to think about this entire conversation that we've had and keep in mind that listener who might be leading a district and wants to put.

or [00:29:00] build a collective efficacy program. When you think about what you did, what are the key pieces of that effort that leader should have in mind if they want to do this themselves for their district?

[00:29:10] Dr. Paul Enderle: I think, part of it is really spending some time studying and really looking at the research that you feel will yield the best re-sults. Maybe taking a little, having a little bit of courage. To look at something that is not always a hundred percent tangible. It's not always a hundred percent even quantifiable.

In nature, but it's something that research time and time again says is effective and it's one of the, gives us one of the biggest shields to, to not only do your homework but also, talk to people in your system. And start having conversa-tions and getting some of your folks who are more centered on research and de-velopment to dig into it, some of the people that you trust sharing them the work of not only Hattie and people like Jen Donahue when it comes to collective effi-cacy, but also looking at someone like Robin Jackson has created a system that has really helped School [00:30:00] systems align and operationalize the con-cept a little bit.

But to really not have a ton of fear in the fact that, this isn't a tangible thing but it's something that you could definitely, you know, foster. It fosters continuous growth, continuous improvement, continuous reflection. I believe in the right things. And I think any time you feel as though you're doing the right work, I think that is motivating and that's something that can really serve to help a sys-tem move forward.

[00:30:28] Dr. Jim: Great stuff. If people want to continue the conversation with you, what's the best way to get in touch with your poll?

[00:30:33] Dr. Paul Enderle: Sure, you could definitely shoot me an email go to the Oklahoma Hometown School District 123 website and feel free to fire me an email at any point. I love to talk collective efficacy. I love to talk change and leadership in schools.

So I'm always open to talk to any anyone out there interested in those topics.

[00:30:52] Dr. Jim: Awesome stuff. So I appreciate you hanging out with us and this has been a really interesting conversation and I appreciate you sharing your experience with us. When I [00:31:00] think about the things that we talked about, there are a couple of things that I want to highlight.

That I think serves as a general philosophical foundation for anybody that wants to execute a transformation of any kind, regardless of the methodology that they want to put in place. Now, you're obviously talking about the impact of collec-tive efficacy within your district, and that might be the decision that many other districts go with as well, but whatever transformation effort that you're trying to.

Implement and execute. There are a few things that you mentioned that really stood out. One was the fact that everything that we talked about was under-pinned by a development mindset. And I think if you generally apply a devel-opment mindset to whatever you're working on. How can we improve? How can we use this to get to the next level?

That mindset really opens up your ability to view things on their merits and think differently, which is really important, especially when you're talking about a radical shift in thinking between the old way of [00:32:00] doing things, where you have a strategic plan that's defined with 20 different things that you need to do, and you're trying to make a pivot.

To one thing with a disciplined level of focus. So I think that was an important element of the conversation that stood out to me. The other element of the con-versation that stood out to me was that your emphasis was focusing on asking the question, how can we multiply our strengths? Now we're talking about a transformation effort that happens at a district level, but if we're asking the ques-tion, how can we multiply our strengths across?

All the people that are working within our districts, and that includes district employees, students, faculty, community, that really gives you an ability to think differently about how you can get people working in a more collaborative way and use that as a force multiplier to impact change. So those two things really set the tone well, and I think that mindset.

of looking at things where looking at those things in that way is really going to be helpful for a lot of organizations [00:33:00] and leaders as they try to navi-gate change and implement change. So appreciate you sharing that with us. For those of you who've been listening to this conversation, we appreciate you hanging out.

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