1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,640 Hey, this is Shaun with the award-winning GoTennis! 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what you think. 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Who are you and why do we care? 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,600 Hey guys, thank you for having me. 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,000 First, thank you for the invitation. 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,800 My name is Juan Garcia. 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,600 I am the Director of Rackets at San Dieguito Tennis Club in Ancennitas. 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,760 Ancennitas is a little surf town north of San Diego, California. 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:16,280 San Diego is a nine-quart, hardcore tennis club, member-owned. 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,560 We have a couple pickable records. 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,360 One of them used to be a pool and we've made that transition and that made me the Director 21 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,360 of Rackets. 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,320 It used to be Director of Tennis. 23 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:33,800 So I came from another local club, head professional there at the Bay Club. 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,840 It's a California-based franchise. 25 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,520 So you guys from Georgia get a little information on these clubs. 26 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,280 It's about 14, 17 clubs. 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:50,480 I'm not sure how many they bought it out, but it's a pretty good athletic club. 28 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,760 One of the clubs that has a gym and a pretty big facility, pools, all the whole shabang 29 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,240 is a pretty nice club. 30 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:03,000 I am originally from Mexico, California, a border. 31 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,760 So it's Baja, Mexico, and then on the other side, it's Mexico. 32 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,520 They were very original when they thought about names there. 33 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,160 They made it easy on everybody. 34 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,640 Mexico and Mexico and Mexico. 35 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:20,920 So I grew up in the Mexican side and I started going to US school in a, 36 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:26,280 a, a, a, electrical on seventh grade and on and my, my, my parents, this plan was to get 37 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,460 me the tools to get to a place where I could go and get a scholarship of playing tennis. 38 00:02:31,460 --> 00:02:37,040 And my idea about that was like, well, I want to play baseball, so I played both growing 39 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,880 up and playing high school. 40 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:46,940 I actually went back to Mexico to a university and I played a year of baseball there, you 41 00:02:46,940 --> 00:02:48,600 know, being the rebellious me. 42 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:55,080 I wanted to do my thing and I came back to tennis through, you know, a passion and I loved 43 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,880 competing individually and also playing in a team environment for a college was also 44 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,040 a pretty fun experience. 45 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:12,000 So that said, that took me, you know, a few years out of tennis and I explored different 46 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:18,120 jobs, different opportunities, which I noticed that I really missed tennis. 47 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,640 So I came back to the sport. 48 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:21,920 I started doing a few lessons. 49 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:26,880 I wanted to share, you know, the beginning was someone suggested that I should do an ad 50 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:27,880 on Craigslist. 51 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,960 Is everybody know the Craigslist? 52 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,920 So I posted an ad for tennis lessons and my first client called me and I'm like, oh, you 53 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:37,920 want a lesson? 54 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,760 No, I want to let you know that you missed the last number. 55 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,800 You didn't put the right information. 56 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,040 So I had only, you know, area code and then six numbers. 57 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,720 So he was letting you know, but he was actually interested in lessons. 58 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,640 So he became a client and I corrected that. 59 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,800 I was kind of notorious. 60 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,720 I did that once before and I only gave to the last digit. 61 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,400 They had to figure it out. 62 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:08,840 So then I started teaching a little bit at the complex where I was living and there was 63 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:15,400 a guy that had the kind of like the lease or the access to the courts and he said, you 64 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:22,080 got to teach under insurance and you got to get certified and you got to do the due diligence 65 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,200 of getting, you know, all these things in line. 66 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:32,600 And another confession is I asked around what's going on and well, the USPTA and I show up 67 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,440 to the certification and I'm like, hey, I'm here to get certified. 68 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,840 We don't have you on the list. 69 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:39,680 It was like, well, what do you do? 70 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:45,680 We got to sign up and I was like another, another obstacle of something that kind of like 71 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:51,920 flumbled around and it set me up to get to another city to get certified and then from 72 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:57,440 there on, you know, I started getting my client base and I started building up from there. 73 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:04,720 So been certified for 18 years now and really enjoying teaching and really enjoying the aspects 74 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,120 of what I learned throughout these years. 75 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,440 And this is where I am today. 76 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,000 You know, I'm sitting here doing some exploring, getting out and getting a little out of my 77 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:20,280 comfort zone to talk to you guys and see what ideas we can, what insights we can share 78 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:25,520 and we can try to make things better for tennis. 79 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,320 And Bobby, he said baseball. 80 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,440 So this is where I take a step back and I let Bobby start going because he's going to want 81 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,360 to ask baseball questions here. 82 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,840 Got to know right away what position did you play? 83 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,480 I love playing the outfield. 84 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,640 So I played center field in high school. 85 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:47,280 I pitched a little bit and I was always very curious about other positions. 86 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:53,160 I was in the kind of like a leadership position with the team where I was one of the, you 87 00:05:53,160 --> 00:06:01,280 know, better athletes and the coach had, he was a former triple A player in the minors 88 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:09,400 and he played a team that my grandfathers, well, my grandmother's brother owned. 89 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,360 So I kind of had a little way to get to get him to, you know, do what I asked. 90 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,640 Well, I tried catching. 91 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,920 I was a catcher for a little bit and I really liked the way that the catching worked because 92 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:21,920 I could set up. 93 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,800 I could see things that you couldn't see from the other side and I could move the players 94 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:33,360 around and I played right field in college that one year that I played and I bet anywhere 95 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:40,160 from, you know, probably third through seventh depending on my hot streaks. 96 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,720 And you proved my point early on because when I get that question, I played as well and 97 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:50,480 I always ask the people what position and if they tell me they love to play like first 98 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,840 base, I'm like, you're a baseball player because you're a hitter. 99 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:58,040 But when you tell me you pitched, you played center field and you caught, you tell me you're 100 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,680 a tennis player because you need to be involved in everything. 101 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,560 With me, it told me I was a D.D. 102 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,280 If I was not constantly involved, then I could drift off. 103 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,320 But yes, you fit my profile. 104 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Thank you for that. 105 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Yeah, you're welcome. 106 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:24,720 So I always enjoy the baseball connection because Bobby was also a baseball player and I 107 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,280 appreciate the advice that Bobby was given if I can steal your story a little bit about, 108 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,400 you know, baseball is your sport, but I think it was your master's program and they said, 109 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,720 right, go into anything but baseball in business. 110 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Don't do your passion. 111 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,080 Make sure you remember it's a business. 112 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Yes. 113 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Right. 114 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,080 And I think that's one of the things one and I, we agree on a little bit is we want to bring 115 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,640 in that outside view into the tennis world. 116 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:55,440 We want to start sharing more business acumen rather than just tennis has done it this way 117 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,120 for thousands of years. 118 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,120 Well, now we are racquet sports. 119 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,960 Bobby, by the way, we need to change your title at some point, right? 120 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,880 You got pickleball courts now. 121 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,360 So you're now, you could be director of racquet. 122 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,760 I am director of racquet sport. 123 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,800 I just need to update the profile. 124 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Yes. 125 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,800 Okay. 126 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,600 I am just not part of racquet sports now where you are now. 127 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,600 Okay. 128 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,600 All right. 129 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Congratulations. 130 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:17,600 I'll be there. 131 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,600 Thank you. 132 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:19,600 I almost gave it up. 133 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,600 Give it that on my resume. 134 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,080 I almost gave it up. 135 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,600 I almost gave it up because I were like, well, now you got to get new business cards and 136 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,640 now you got to do the update. 137 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:35,040 You know, social media and all the platforms and I'm like, can I take it back? 138 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,880 Can I be there all the time for that? 139 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,320 And I have to go in and order new cards and everything. 140 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,640 But it was, you know, it's an evolution of arts that we got to keep moving forward and 141 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,160 if that's something that, you know, retroactively we were already director of racquet, it's the 142 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,400 time that we got to make that adjustment. 143 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,560 So it's pretty interesting that, you know, sometimes you're like, well, I was doing it 144 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:01,480 already, but now it's official, right? 145 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:02,800 When you change everything. 146 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:03,800 Yeah. 147 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,800 I look for changes. 148 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:05,800 I look for changes. 149 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:06,800 Take time. 150 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,720 The day when one of us gets hired as a general manager, you know, that's when we'll really 151 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,440 take that next when they realize that we might be able to have a brain. 152 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,520 Just don't go to the golf director for the next level. 153 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:18,520 We could do it as well. 154 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,280 We're managing people. 155 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,280 We understand. 156 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,280 100%. 157 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,680 And that's more for the brains, less for the brawn. 158 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:30,240 That's when you start getting exposed to you going to lead in a different way than some 159 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,080 lessons and some admin and manage the pros. 160 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:39,520 You're now really, really taking over the facility and everybody has a report and you're 161 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,520 really in charge. 162 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,600 So that's a, I mean, almost scary responsibility, right? 163 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:51,560 But that's why we start early on and we keep getting educated because you got to be prepared. 164 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:55,520 When the opportunity knocks, you got to open the door and say, hey, I'm ready. 165 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:01,520 So I would encourage you guys to, you know, start thinking of yourselves as also a prospective 166 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:07,600 GM somewhere at your club or taking those opportunities as they come. 167 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:13,520 And I'll bet not enough tennis coach types, rackets, professionals, I'll say put in their 168 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,160 resume for things like that. 169 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:20,760 Just historically, it hasn't really been available to the tennis side. 170 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,320 Usually your, your golf pro, if there's a promotion or they're going to bring in some 171 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,680 one with some GM experience because there aren't a lot of clubs that want to take a shot at 172 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:36,480 a someone who's never been a GM before, but there's also limited people with your experience. 173 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,000 So I agree with one. 174 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,760 I think suggesting if you're out there and you're thinking, hey, you know what, what's my next 175 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,760 gig? 176 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:50,520 It doesn't mean just because tennis pros don't typically get that interview. 177 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,640 Go ahead and put your hat in the ring. 178 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,640 I think that's great. 179 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,480 So one, the next question we have is about uniqueness. 180 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:07,320 And I don't know how a Mexican born former baseball player, tennis coach in San Diego is extremely 181 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,360 unique, but what do you have? 182 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,280 You also said you've got some military experience. 183 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:17,840 So what's the uniqueness about the brand that is Juan Garcia in California? 184 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,480 Yeah, the military part. 185 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,760 A lot of people don't really know about it. 186 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:29,320 I'm not someone that's going back in time and trying to bring back like, oh, you know what 187 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,600 I've done and you know where I've been. 188 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:37,720 It actually shows in actions and discipline and everybody knows or that knows me. 189 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,240 Now that I spent at least four or five days a week at the gym and I go to the early class 190 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,160 because I would never make it later on. 191 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,000 I get pulled in every direction and I couldn't make it. 192 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,960 So I'm in a 615 class at the gym four or five days a week. 193 00:11:52,960 --> 00:12:00,320 I try to encourage all my clients and friends and people that surround me and my community 194 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:07,000 to get some fitness and get some nutrition and get some, all the things that are going to 195 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:14,600 get the body and the mind and line to keep getting better. 196 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,760 So my models get better every day. 197 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:26,520 I think that we were done at 9 a.m. we'd already done more than a lot of people have done or 198 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,600 they were doing in the whole day when I was in the military. 199 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,000 And you guys are from Georgia. 200 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,240 I actually have a little story to tell. 201 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:41,040 I've been there at a paratrooper school in Fort Benning, Georgia. 202 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,880 And I don't know if I'm going to hurt anybody's feelings here, but when the drop zone, they 203 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,840 were going to, they were teaching us how to jump out of airplanes. 204 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:55,880 And there was a drop zone that they were like, if you end up drifting a little too far west, 205 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,080 you're going to end up in Alabama. 206 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,480 And don't let Billy Bob drag you out with them. 207 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,520 You better run back to us. 208 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,360 And they would tell us that this is a joke, but we were like, "Where is Alabama?" 209 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,360 I wasn't familiar with the area. 210 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,040 So that was just a cool experience that I had. 211 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,400 It was in August, late August, early September. 212 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,480 So you know that I know what your guys is. 213 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Summer weather is all about. 214 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,200 I keep talking about this every now and then. 215 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:30,000 I'm like, I've experienced real, real humid conditions. 216 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,120 I was there for three weeks and the categories of the heat were super high. 217 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,200 They didn't really let us run everywhere as we should. 218 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:45,200 But one of the jumps I ended up taking a little bit of wind and I ended up my first jump. 219 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,240 I think it was maybe the second one. 220 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,840 I ended up hanging on a tree. 221 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,600 So I got some stories to tell of my experience in Georgia for banning. 222 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,720 That was a fun, long, long time. 223 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,200 I go 25 years ago, I want to say. 224 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,200 Fantastic. 225 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,520 Bobby, have you jumped out of an airplane? 226 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:03,920 I have not. 227 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,920 I cannot recommend it enough. 228 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,920 Really? 229 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,920 I cannot. 230 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,120 It is an amazing experience. 231 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,640 Now I haven't done it. 232 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Military different thing. 233 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,880 Like practicing to be able to do it for that purpose is one thing. 234 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,840 Me just doing it for fun is probably just considered reckless. 235 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,480 But it is absolutely phenomenal. 236 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,200 And I very much enjoyed it. 237 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:30,640 Thankfully did not get caught in a tree that was not part of my experience. 238 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,360 But we've also worked with one of our other American Raga sports association members, 239 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,680 Warren Robinson, is Navy. 240 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,080 So he's got military as well in his blood. 241 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:46,000 And there's a, you talk about the discipline, there's something about that that changes 242 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,000 of purking. 243 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Definitely agree. 244 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:54,720 It ing rains in something that you can never really get rid of it. 245 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,680 It's like something that you're going to take on forever and ever. 246 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:03,320 You've endured some really harsh conditions that it's almost like a marathon runner. 247 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:09,120 What are you going to tell a marathon runner about hard conditions when they put themselves 248 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,440 through 26 miles non-stop? 249 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,720 So we got up super early in the morning and went running. 250 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,680 It wasn't a decision. 251 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,240 It was like we had no choice. 252 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,240 I signed up. 253 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,240 I actually volunteered. 254 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Both my parents are American born. 255 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,600 And they were encouraging me to take a make a decision. 256 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:30,920 I was back and forth. 257 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:31,920 I went to college. 258 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,720 I came back to the university in Mexico and I was living back at home. 259 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,320 And they were like, why don't you take a year or a summer or you could also follow. 260 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,800 There was a cousin of mine that was also a paratrooper. 261 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:53,920 He was doing really well in Ford Ragnarth Carolina where I ended up getting my duty station. 262 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,840 And I said, I'll go on the military. 263 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,160 I thought it was like, I'm 20, you know, I want to do that. 264 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,600 And they were shocked. 265 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,480 They were like, no, but if you want it, then I'm like, no, no. 266 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,760 I like that idea. 267 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,200 And they kind of took a moment and they're like, oh, I think he's decided. 268 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,080 He's determined to do it. 269 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:17,960 And I went in the recruiters office and it was just from there, you know? 270 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,400 Ford Jackson Ford. 271 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,400 I went to somewhere for Lee Virginia. 272 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,280 I was all over the pretty much on the south. 273 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,040 I was in the station in North Carolina. 274 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,800 We did forkpork Louisiana. 275 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:38,280 So I got to find a lot of unique things about that area. 276 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,200 They were talking about eating deer and I'm like, what does it taste like? 277 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,800 And they were talking about things that I grew up in an area where it was different. 278 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:55,560 So what makes me unique is that little background, you know, that background that I have. 279 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,760 As far as my coaching, I empathize. 280 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,120 I try to connect with my clients in hindsight. 281 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:07,880 I learned I heard about this story not too long ago and they said, it's easier to make your 282 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,720 clients friends than to make friends your clients. 283 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,640 So I've been making my clients friends. 284 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,840 So I have long, long term. 285 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:24,920 I mean, I'm 48 right now and I have clients that I've been coaching for a little on and off. 286 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,200 They've had time off. 287 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,960 But we're on 13 years. 288 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:34,200 We kind of measure on my dog's age because he's 13 and it was like, you didn't have your dog 289 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,720 back then and I'm like, well, it's more than 13 years. 290 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,840 So a lot of that, we go through, you know, some kind of a gauge and oh, you didn't have your 291 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:43,840 son. 292 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,440 I'm like, well, we've been working for longer than 10 years. 293 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,760 You just had your son. 294 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,760 So less than, you know, nine years. 295 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,520 So there's a lot of those we've built connections. 296 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:59,960 Most of my clients, we've been going for years and years and some would say, well, they probably 297 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:00,960 pretty good. 298 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,560 I like, well, they haven't gotten worse. 299 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,360 So that's a, that's a measuring stick, right? 300 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:09,160 A lot of us are getting older. 301 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,240 I don't know anybody that's not. 302 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,200 So if you're staying at the same level, it's an advantage. 303 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,440 I empathize with them. 304 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,080 I try to connect, I try to relate, you know, through stories and look, this is happening 305 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,800 with someone else that I'm coaching. 306 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:31,240 A lot of my higher level for five guys, maybe five of those. 307 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:39,000 I try to relate to the times that I went through some type of a challenge that I can help 308 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,040 them through what they're feeling, right? 309 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:48,560 It's like, oh, I feel like this changed, you know, changing of a grip or a stance or moving 310 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:53,520 through the ball or something that they have to change in their game. 311 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,560 I said, look, you know, I had that challenge, you know, 15 years ago. 312 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:03,720 I remember exactly where I was in my life and it took me about six months, maybe a year. 313 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,120 And they realized that I'm talking about experience. 314 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:10,120 You know, I've been there and I've done that. 315 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:14,760 And it's easy for them to tackle long and say, okay, I'm going to give it a shot. 316 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,360 I'm going to, you know, I say, look, I've done it. 317 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:24,400 Now I tell you the shortcut is there, but now you got to do the work and nothing different 318 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,360 than, you know, I did it. 319 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:27,360 You can do it. 320 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:32,240 So a lot of these stories lead to, I feel that makes me somewhat unique. 321 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,880 Maybe some other coaches, good for them that are trying to connect with their clients, trying 322 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:42,600 to motivate them through, you know, past experiences or some type of a story that would 323 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:48,920 help them realize their potential easier. 324 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,840 Bobby, it makes me think of ASOPs Fables. 325 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:56,000 Now I've got a three year old and Bobby's got a grandson, a similar age. 326 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,760 Being able to share that kind of information without saying, well, here's what you should 327 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:00,760 do. 328 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:08,080 Being able to say a quick story that says, here's what a little chicken did in a similar 329 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,080 situation. 330 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Somehow, maybe that's the kid version, right? 331 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:16,520 What's the way because RSPA and our certifying body say we shouldn't talk too much, but we 332 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,520 do need to get these things imparted. 333 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,760 You most definitely do because that's how you build trust. 334 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:28,120 I mean, it always amazes me when you see a player go through five coaches in five years. 335 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:32,840 Well, we have a big problem there because a relationship is based on trust. 336 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,000 And if you're not putting the hours in, then how are you ever going to develop the trust? 337 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,600 It's unfortunate, it's society that we've gone in that direction where there's something 338 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,600 better. 339 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,600 So let's drop it. 340 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,520 But the bad part is you never, if you don't go through the bad with somebody, you can 341 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,480 never fully understand the good and the great. 342 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:55,160 And I think that's, we see that on every level in society right now. 343 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,760 And I'm not going to say Port Coco who's going to go through another coach here pretty soon. 344 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,760 But this is the type of thing. 345 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,200 At some point, either you grab the person by the neck and say, hey, you're blowing a kid. 346 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,040 You guys are all way too old. 347 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,560 But Sugar Ray Leonard, his trainer was Muhammad Ali's trainer, Angelo Dundee. 348 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,960 And he was fighting Thomas Harnes. 349 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,800 And literally in the 13th round, he looked at Sugar Ray Leonard and said, you're blowing 350 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,040 it son. 351 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,560 And Sugar Ray Leonard went out there in the next three rounds and knocked out Tommy Harnes. 352 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:29,360 But you know, that you can't do that unless you have somebody's utmost trust in faith. 353 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:32,120 And you know, that's what makes a relationship great. 354 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:35,000 And that's what made Sugar Ray and Angelo so good together. 355 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Like that. 356 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,120 And one, you mentioned having kids or at least a son. 357 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:43,040 There's a, there's a familial trust. 358 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,440 My stepdaughter said the other day on the, she was sitting here and she says, well, I want you 359 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,720 in the room, mom, because I can be mean to you. 360 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,280 And you still have to love me. 361 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,680 But it was just an interesting statement. 362 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,280 She wasn't saying that she likes being mean to her mother, but she's about to have a child. 363 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,240 And we're going to be grandparents and we're talking through all those things. 364 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:06,960 It's that trust that says, I'd rather my mom in the room with me than my mother-in-law. 365 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,280 It's like, well, no, because I have to treat her in a different way. 366 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,920 Maybe there's a connection here that says, yeah, we can't always, like a parent, to be able 367 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,280 to say you're blowing it kid. 368 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:23,400 When that kid is my boss and she's 20 years old and she's going to fire me because she 369 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,400 didn't make the quarters. 370 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:30,880 Like, there's a strange way to do it within the collection that is client, athlete and 371 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,640 coach relationship. 372 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,400 One, how do you play through those in your world? 373 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,120 I actually have a daughter too. 374 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:45,320 And a lot of the things this, you know, as parents, it's a little different, but you get 375 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:50,240 to tell them, hey, look, I've done that, you know, if you're trying to discipline a child, 376 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,760 but what are you going to tell them that you've done the same things, right? 377 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,920 But you give them the authority or the obligation that they have to self correct. 378 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:04,340 And there's the same thing when you're in the court, you have to establish this connection 379 00:23:04,340 --> 00:23:09,620 with your client first before you start correcting and changing and doing these things that you're 380 00:23:09,620 --> 00:23:11,840 trying to get them to trust you first. 381 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:17,360 And I've actually worked on, I'm finishing a book, the Modern Tennis Coach. 382 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:24,120 And it's about these ideas that you have to first cultivate a connection so that the client 383 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:29,600 can trust you so that then they open up and they're really dropping that guard and being 384 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,460 open to all the suggestions and all the ideas that you're going to give them about how to 385 00:23:34,460 --> 00:23:36,220 improve, right? 386 00:23:36,220 --> 00:23:38,160 And it's about being relatable. 387 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:43,280 A lot of the times when you tell them, I used to be when we were growing up and when, now 388 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,480 it's like, hey, when I was in up and coming pro, there was one of my mentors here in town, 389 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,480 he told me these things. 390 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,800 He was like, when I was in up and coming pro, I used to go to the conferences and, you know, 391 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:59,400 this other coach mentored me into joining the district board and getting on the diversity 392 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:06,440 and inclusion committee and you kind of draw them a vision or that path that they can also 393 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,440 go through. 394 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,840 Instead of telling them, you got to do this, you know, when I used to be, how many times 395 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,840 were we heard that? 396 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,600 When I was your age, when we were younger, right? 397 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,480 I walked five miles round trip to get to the grocery store. 398 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:27,000 How many of this people don't, they can't see themselves doing that, not lived in that 399 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:33,200 situation and the situation is different, but how can you make them visualize like based 400 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,000 on my situation, how can I improve, right? 401 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,840 So it's dropping these seeds and planting, you know, water it every day and let them figure 402 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,480 it out without really pushing that envelope. 403 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:52,760 Yeah, and I don't envy the coaches these days in that world because it really is tough 404 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:58,960 to tell somebody else's kid what they need to be doing and be able to cultivate those relationships. 405 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,040 Some people are lucky they have a club and they get to be there and that's where the members 406 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,520 come to them. 407 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,880 Bobby has an inherent trust, even with a new member, where they come in and they go, "Okay, 408 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,760 you're my coach." 409 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,600 Because he's been there, we went 13 years now, something like that now, Bobby. 410 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:21,120 And he's built the trust around others at some level and you won in the same way of being 411 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:26,560 at your club for a while, but not everybody has that, where maybe it's just my first day 412 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,920 and I've got to get to know somebody, but you want to make changes fast. 413 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,240 It's difficult from a coaching perspective. 414 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,240 We all know how to coach. 415 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,520 We all have our ideas on the best ways to do it. 416 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,480 And the question here is, "Are we doing it to the best of our ability, but can we also 417 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,480 be better?" 418 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,280 I like your phrase, "Want trying to be a little bit better every day?" 419 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,160 I think that makes me think of one of the gentsans who always said, "Moving the needle," and 420 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,560 he was Luke always talked about just moving the needle a little bit piece by piece and hearing 421 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,880 the different coaching styles. 422 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,920 We all have all the information that's out there, whether it's RSPA, PTR, whoever we're 423 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:08,000 learning from, whoever trained us to be a coach, whoever's now helping us run a good 424 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,000 business. 425 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:14,440 We want to then be the mentor to the next up and coming without saying too much of, "My 426 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,760 life was hard, kid. 427 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,160 You got it easy." 428 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,160 You're right. 429 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,360 That doesn't create any connection. 430 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:24,080 That's actually generating separation and to create how different things are. 431 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,080 That's got to be tough. 432 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,080 One, what else is on your mind? 433 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,520 You and I have been talking a lot recently about what's going on in California and changes 434 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,280 and how things are. 435 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,720 Your view of the industry these days, you got anything big and exciting on your mind that 436 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,720 you want to talk about? 437 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,720 Yeah, definitely. 438 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:47,120 I want to close that last question with kind of opening the next one with the idea 439 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:53,200 that you've got to make a change that's enough significance with enough significance that 440 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,360 it'll improve everything. 441 00:26:56,360 --> 00:27:02,440 What change am I going to do at my club or what am I going to build that would make the 442 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,560 biggest impact? 443 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,720 Building a good culture, I feel like I've developed the connection and the trust with the 444 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,920 members that they kind of opened the door for me to try to make some changes that they 445 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:22,560 really enjoy or they really see a difference or they really the trust that it brings, right? 446 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:28,560 When I make a decision or when I ask for the board to do something, they know it comes from 447 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:34,280 a place that I'm meaning the best for the club, that I've, you know, through the experience. 448 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,880 It was my first time as a director there and I've learned a lot throughout the seven 449 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,560 years that I've been there. 450 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,680 So now when we sit in the meeting, I'm kind of leading my way in shaping the future 451 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,880 of the club with the trust that they've seen, the changes and they've seen the culture 452 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,080 go through these evolutions and transitions, right? 453 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:00,680 When they feel that everybody's feedback, a lot of the times, how many times have you 454 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:07,080 bought an appliance for an example, a little out of sorts, but and how many bad reviews 455 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,880 that that appliance have? 456 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,760 You know, it's like you buy a refrigerator and everybody goes online and post that feedback, 457 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,760 right? 458 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,960 The refrigerator, but nobody really goes and tells the good stories. 459 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,640 By refrigerator, it's an expectation, right? 460 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,560 It's an expectation that people have that everything is going to work well. 461 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:30,200 So if the feedback, negative feedback is minimal and they open up and they say, well, you 462 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760 know, there is very positive feedback. 463 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,320 It really, you know, tells the story, right? 464 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,760 So what I wanted to talk about today was about the leadership in our industry and I'm 465 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:48,280 not talking about pointing fingers upwards, but I'm talking about pointing a hand, extending 466 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:54,520 a hand to the up and coming generation and enabling them to understand that they are leaders. 467 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,520 They don't need a title. 468 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,560 They don't need, you know, to go through a course. 469 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,280 They don't need to be a head pro. 470 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,160 They don't need, they're leading a club. 471 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,480 They're, I mean, a clinic or they're leading a junior program. 472 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,080 They're leading, but whether it's one lesson at a time, they're a leader. 473 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,800 They're already people following them. 474 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:19,880 So this is where I really wanted to get out and start sharing these insights and ideas 475 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:26,480 because I did a workshop at the club not too long ago last week or two and I said, hey, 476 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,600 let me get a show of hands of who's a leader in this group. 477 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,960 And I had mine up, you know, I'm the director of brackets and they're working in the junior 478 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,720 program and I wanted to say, you know, I'm honest. 479 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,960 I am a good leader here. 480 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:45,600 And nobody raised their hand and I kind of started exploring like, what's going on? 481 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,560 And one of them raised their hand. 482 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,680 He was a little older of the group and I'm like, you want to share what makes you a leader. 483 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:59,200 And he said, well, I have a group of juniors that I lead and then I saw the other hand start. 484 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,000 I'm next. 485 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,120 I want to share my perspective of why I'm a leader. 486 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,360 I'm like, everybody wants to raise their hand now. 487 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,360 I'm like, yeah. 488 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,080 Why are you a leader? 489 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,080 I don't like these problems and I like to be organized and I like your leader. 490 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,120 And I'm like, next, you're raising your hand now, right? 491 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,120 Yeah. 492 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,880 And I'm like, guys, as soon as you park, as soon as you get out of the car, you're a leader 493 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,760 and you're going to treat this employment or this situation everywhere you go, you are 494 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,760 going to handle and lead yourself as a leader. 495 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:39,960 So I think that this is like, oh, you got to do, you know, your part. 496 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,440 It's we all have to do, but we got to tell these guys how. 497 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,560 So it's not like we were going back on that story is not don't tell them what to do. 498 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:54,920 It's enabled them to understand that they are a leader, that they are already some in a 499 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,600 place of some authority that they are in a leading position, right? 500 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,840 Whatever it is. 501 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,120 And then they can start exploring well, how can I be a better leader? 502 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:11,000 So get a little education, do some specialty course, take the routes, they're already certified 503 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,800 or they're trying to get certified. 504 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,200 And I just, you know, point them in the right direction. 505 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:23,680 Whatever it is, you mentioned RSPA, PTR, I think USDA is coming up with some type of a coaching 506 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,680 pathway. 507 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:33,160 I personally went the RSPA US, US PTA and it was an eight, everybody that I asked was already 508 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,160 there. 509 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,200 So it was a natural gravitation to that organization. 510 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,920 I'm very, very, you know, thankful that I took that I could have gone PTR and I would have 511 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,440 been probably in the same place. 512 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:51,160 I'm naturally like, I'm wanting to open up a little more of my story and let people know, 513 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,680 you know, where I've been through or what I've been through and what I want to see in the industry 514 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:03,040 is that more people take these initiatives to become a better everyday guy, you know, or 515 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,040 woman. 516 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,880 And that's what's going to make the industry better. 517 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,240 So this is kind of like my time that I wanted to when I go to a conference and I go to the 518 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,280 lesson and I'm like, so what did you think about? 519 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:22,480 And they have some story that they were so, you know, moved and they got and I'm like, 520 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,040 oh, I wish I had a camera here so that everybody could hear about this. 521 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,920 But it ends in that one lesson. 522 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:36,000 So now it's like, how do I get these stories and how do I motivate more coaches or more 523 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:43,600 people to step up to these leading positions and make themselves better everyday? 524 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,720 It makes me think of, be the change, right, Bobby? 525 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,560 So, but in this case, it's be the leader. 526 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,560 If we, we often look up and say, oh, they're doing it wrong. 527 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,960 Well, who are they? 528 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:58,960 And in this case, at some point, it sounds like one wants us, whoever we don't picture ourselves 529 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,680 as they that are the leaders to be the leaders that we want to see in the world. 530 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,680 You picture it that way like I do, Bobby. 531 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,560 I do hold up, you know, a little bit of responsibility because unfortunately they set the culture. 532 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,000 And we're coming in to the culture. 533 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,080 Yes, we can change it, but change takes time. 534 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:25,560 And my thing is with every other industry, it's, I think where we need to spend a lot more 535 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,560 time as mentoring. 536 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,840 You get somebody young in like, well, I don't want to tell anybody. 537 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,080 I want them to be next to me. 538 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,080 It's like my child. 539 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,160 I want my child with me every day because I don't want to tell her. 540 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,520 I want her to see it. 541 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,080 I want her to see me say, please, I want her to see me say, thank you. 542 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:47,040 I want her to understand humility without me having to say that's not proper behavior. 543 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,520 I want her to see it constantly. 544 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,560 And unfortunately, I just think we don't have enough of that. 545 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,600 The other side and I even laughed, you know, going back to what I was talking about, you 546 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,160 know, as coaches, and I started thinking about it as a baseball coach. 547 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,000 You know, one of the things I pride it myself on when I was coaching baseball is that I 548 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:08,320 always got my kids, whether they were good, bad or indifferent, on game day, they always 549 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,040 played their best because they were relaxed. 550 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,680 Because they knew I had their back. 551 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:18,360 And I think about my dad and what I say about my dad being my best coach in every sport that 552 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:25,360 I was better than him at because his job was to protect me and to make my life easy. 553 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,880 So inside the baseball field, inside the tennis court, that was my domain. 554 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,880 He had everything else covered it. 555 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,200 You know, I don't know, you know, the nature of our sport does it because we're not sitting 556 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,680 next to even with boxing. 557 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,200 It's an individual sport, but the trainer still gets in the ring with him every three minutes. 558 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:48,120 We don't have that contact during the fight, during the battle. 559 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:54,080 So we can't sit there and instill our passion in what we would do or just say, hey, you're 560 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,080 giving it everything else. 561 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,080 Keep going, you know, keep going. 562 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:02,440 And then interject where, you know, you're close, but you got to step it up a little bit. 563 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,440 It's hard. 564 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,560 And I think it's obvious in our sport because so few people actually win. 565 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,920 You know, you get the same four or five people who figured it out, which is the same as hitting 566 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,920 a forehand. 567 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,440 You have to figure out how to win. 568 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,920 And that's an invaluable lesson, obviously, and not a lot of people can get that, get that 569 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,600 far. 570 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,880 And yeah, I mean, these are the things that we started the podcast about is to just see 571 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,040 change, get enough voices. 572 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,320 And I'll leave it at this. 573 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:39,320 But I would love to see it goes back to let's get 10,000, 20,000, 100,000 people, a million 574 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,240 more people playing tennis because that means we diversified. 575 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:50,480 And that means we have a lot of different backgrounds coming to the table to discuss different 576 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,760 ways to get there. 577 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,760 And I think that's the other problem too with tennis. 578 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,360 It's not everybody doesn't have access to it. 579 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,440 I mean, George is unique as it comes, right? 580 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:05,320 Because we have league tennis that is so dominated by adults, they try to get their kids into 581 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,320 it. 582 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,480 But their idea of success, unfortunately, is different because they started at 30 and they 583 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,560 made it to an A level or a B level. 584 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,160 Hey, I did great. 585 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,600 You know, as a kid, if you're starting, you know, there's that urgency because I got to 586 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,800 get a scholarship or I want to be a ranked player. 587 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,200 I want to, you know, we don't necessarily do it for enjoyment or passion. 588 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,440 We do it for an outcome. 589 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,320 So there's so many things that come into it. 590 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,840 I love the conversations. 591 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,840 I think it's great. 592 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,840 I wish we would do that. 593 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,440 You know, it's Sean will tell you I'm a big for I hate that all the conferences were all 594 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,960 we talk about is tennis. 595 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,440 I think we're all pretty good at tennis. 596 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,000 We all have a pretty good, let's talk about life. 597 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,000 Let's talk about it. 598 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,520 You said, you know, what do you do? 599 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,200 I'm notorious for playing music. 600 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,520 And I always laugh that you can tell somebody when they went to high school because that's 601 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,520 going to be their point of reference for what they play. 602 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,480 So you come to my drill, you're going to get 70s and 80s. 603 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,800 You know, my kids that graduated year, well, then you're getting the 90s. 604 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,400 And you know, thankfully, I don't let my high school kids pick the music because I don't 605 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,440 consider what they have as music. 606 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,880 So, you know, it's kind of stopped. 607 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,120 But, you know, and they understand that perspective of me and you know, in perspective and then 608 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,240 they deal with it. 609 00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:22,960 But I said, I love the idea because it's the passion in that search for knowledge. 610 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,720 And Murphy Luke and all ourselves decide we're coding Dr. King, his line was keep moving. 611 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:34,960 If you can't run, walk, if you can't walk, crawl, but by God, just keep moving. 612 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,120 And that's what we need to do. 613 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,600 I love it. 614 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,880 Maybe that heads us on toward mentorship programs. 615 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,760 Maybe the leaders are not necessarily the ones that everybody's looking to. 616 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,960 Maybe the leaders are the rest of us that can help mentor the next generation or even 617 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,960 those around us that are our peers to make us better leaders. 618 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,960 Well, 100%. 619 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,680 That's another one of my, you know, I want to say that one of the chapters, one of the things 620 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:08,760 I talked about in the, I wrote a book in the book and it's about mentorship. 621 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,120 Instead of micromanaging and telling people, you know, oh, you got to do this better. 622 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,600 You got to do, it's, it's what do you show them that they're probably uncertain what to 623 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,800 do or how to do it because you haven't shown people. 624 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:27,960 And another from a book I like to kind of quote on books that I've read along the lines 625 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,400 and it was shoe dog from Phil Knight, the Nike story. 626 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,120 It's telling what to do and let him rug with it. 627 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,280 Let him run with it, right? 628 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,600 Let them figure it out. 629 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:47,880 And we were at a GPTCA conference or just workshop this past weekend. 630 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:53,640 Tony Nadal was talking about coaching Brafa and he was like, Brafa, you have four shots to 631 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,840 finish at the net. 632 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,080 You have five shots to finish with a drop shot. 633 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,280 You tell him what to do and let him run with it, right? 634 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,920 So then you can make some suggestions, but you really, you really got to tell, you know, 635 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,200 draw the mentor line. 636 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:16,720 And one, you got to lead and coach like Bobby was talking about, by example, actions, 637 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:22,320 coach louder, speak louder, teach louder than the words. 638 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:28,280 So sometimes you just got to go in and, you know, do the do because, you know, I don't have 639 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:34,400 all these certifications or I haven't done all these things to collect in a trophy room. 640 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,800 I wanted for alignment. 641 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,400 I want when I tell them, hey, why don't you go get pickleball certified? 642 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,040 And they look at me like, weird. 643 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,400 I'm like, I got pickleball. 644 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,720 I don't teach because I want you to teach. 645 00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:49,840 I want you to make that money at whatever battle. 646 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,600 Why don't you go get certified for paddle? 647 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,680 We don't have a court. 648 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,040 Well, maybe I can get you a job at a club part time that you can go teach. 649 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,200 Well, they look at me weird. 650 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,960 I got certified already. 651 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:00,960 You know what I mean? 652 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,040 And I don't have a paddle court at the club, but I've put myself through these through these 653 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:12,640 certifications or, you know, learning tools so that when anybody asks, hey, what do you, 654 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,440 what do you think of a paddle? 655 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,440 I'm not stuck. 656 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:21,720 I don't, I know what I think because I went through the curriculum of Marko Zelpilar and 657 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:29,560 I think it's amazing that your RSPA put a really good program to teach paddle for the RSPA 658 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,800 instructors or bring new instructors. 659 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,960 We're kind of running low on coaches in the future, right? 660 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:40,680 And they put together these certifications that nobody wants to take advantage of or they 661 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,680 don't know about. 662 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,400 So what do we do? 663 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,140 What do we do to make them independent of the direction? 664 00:40:45,140 --> 00:40:49,000 Well, again, I got to say I've already done it. 665 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,960 I drew that, you know, line to now it's your turn. 666 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,960 So if I've done it, I don't, I'm not telling them you got to do it. 667 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:58,960 I don't want to do it. 668 00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,960 I'm not going to teach. 669 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:00,960 I want you to. 670 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,280 I did it. 671 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,800 So what about an executive course? 672 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,560 I could probably get you ahead propositions somewhere else. 673 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,440 No, I don't know. 674 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,080 Let's go, go do CRSC. 675 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:17,520 Like my career score also position you're somewhere in the industry, right? 676 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,960 Well, have you done it? 677 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,960 I did it. 678 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,960 I did it in 2021. 679 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:27,600 You know, so you tell me I don't, I haven't done all the certifications. 680 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:34,160 But I've done the ones that I feel have improved my coaching, my executive decisions, my way 681 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:41,040 of leading the club, the members, the mentorship, you know, the mentoring of up and coming 682 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,040 pros. 683 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:48,120 And in the division, I think that they know I used to be, you know, more of a, the technical 684 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,320 guy because I was so focused on learning about the techniques and the evolution of movement 685 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,760 and the evolution of footwork and the evolution of the forehand and the mechanics. 686 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,440 And then all of a sudden they're like, what happened? 687 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,840 And I'm like, I realized that that took me to a place where, you know, I can teach you 688 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,040 a four hand, five different ways. 689 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:14,160 But then I have to lead, you know, now I got to teach the coaches how to beat better coaches. 690 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:19,840 And now I got to, you know, help the board how to run the club better. 691 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:25,580 So I've taken these steps in a direction that I feel have taken me to a place where I'm 692 00:42:25,580 --> 00:42:33,960 comfortable and I'm confident of mentoring or leading or being a guide of sorts for 693 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,000 this up and coming generation. 694 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,640 Here we go, Bobby. 695 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,520 We got our first mentor offer right there. 696 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,120 We'll add them to the list. 697 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,120 Bobby, you got anything else for Juan before I hit him with King of tennis? 698 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,360 No, I've enjoyed it. 699 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,360 Thank you. 700 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,360 Juan. 701 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,360 All right. 702 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,400 So Juan, hopefully you put some thought into this and you know it's coming, but you may 703 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,920 not know the scope. 704 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,680 So when I asked the question, if you were King of tennis, whether it's the entire world, 705 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:03,120 whether it's professional country clubs, social play, juniors, anything, if you were King 706 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:09,800 of tennis, is there anything you would do or change? 707 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,320 I would lower the barrier. 708 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:17,600 I think that everybody has come up with something similar, but I would lower the barrier of entry 709 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,400 for players to come in and have fun right away. 710 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,880 I think other sports have done it and I think that in all honesty, we have a pilot program 711 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,480 in San Diego for red color pathway for adults. 712 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:39,320 A lot of the adults that already play tennis, they think it's almost like taking them backwards. 713 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,360 Well, we're not going to take them backwards. 714 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,960 We're going to bring new people. 715 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:48,920 We're going to bring new players into our sport by showing them that it's easy to play. 716 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,880 It's easy to have fun. 717 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:56,000 It's, you know, it's like other sports that we know out there. 718 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,800 And I'm going to mention straight up pickleball is a lower barrier of entry. 719 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,480 I think Paddle is also a lower barrier of entry. 720 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,040 And why not copy that? 721 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:13,720 I don't think that copying or using those other sports as it doesn't make us any less or 722 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:15,280 them any better. 723 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,040 We're going to use these tools to bring new players and have fun right away. 724 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,320 Throw music in there. 725 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,880 Whatever it is that they want to do to have fun and they want to come back tomorrow. 726 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,720 So that's if I was King of tennis, you know, I'd probably go through a list of things. 727 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:37,040 Like the barrier of entry that I think that we can bring, we want growth and we want continuity 728 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,320 of these players. 729 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,480 They need to have fun and they need to feel accomplished on day one. 730 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:48,040 And I think that lowering that protocol of being so rigid and you have to play with 731 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,240 this ball and you have to play with this rag and you have to play with it. 732 00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,800 It's like lower that be flexible. 733 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,320 They want to hit the forehand with what it's like, let them do it. 734 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,320 Let them figure it out. 735 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,760 And then you start the connection that we talked about. 736 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,240 I think we're going to go full circle with a lot of things that we talked about earlier. 737 00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:10,000 Once they're hooked, once they're connected to the sport, you can start shaping them a little 738 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,000 bit, right? 739 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,360 Don't let them get all these bad habits, but let them have fun. 740 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,480 Let them love the sport and let them come to you and ask for, hey, how can I get better? 741 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,600 Well, there's this next step, right? 742 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,600 But I would do that. 743 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,600 A lot of the coaching needs to be certified. 744 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,400 I think that everybody's talked about, I really like how Seth put it in, you know, when you 745 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,920 go to a financial advisor, they have to be a certified financial planner. 746 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:42,200 I think if it was the US, I think USDA has taken that initiative to do the pathway for coaching. 747 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,960 My friend and my, we were hitting one of my five, five, oh teammates. 748 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,400 We were talking about, he's from the UK and he's like, this is the conversation we were 749 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,600 having about being certified and having everybody certified. 750 00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:01,760 And he's like, oh, the LTA has a really, really strong program and a strong protocol that 751 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,760 everybody has to be certified. 752 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:09,600 So then we can put the tools in play and we can make this entry a lot easier and a lot 753 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,440 better for players to come in and enjoy from day one. 754 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,840 But yeah, I think you'll appreciate this. 755 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,680 My thought was the complaints, where of course the adult says, well, you're going to stick 756 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,040 me over there with a little red ball like the kids, right? 757 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,120 But are these not the same people that are willing to play cornhole? 758 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,000 You'd think we could talk them in to switch into a red ball. 759 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,000 But I think that's the, that's the, why pickleball became so popular. 760 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,000 It was an e-dria entry. 761 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,640 But, you know, there's so many things that I said, I always judge a good conversation by 762 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,120 how many layers that we've unwrapped here and there's just thousands. 763 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:52,080 And it's another idea that just popped in my head is, you know, in a gratuitous way, tennis 764 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:57,280 should position itself as an entry level because the kids are not the same anymore. 765 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,360 They don't have gym class. 766 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,040 There is nothing that they're doing. 767 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,800 So everything they do is specialized. 768 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,320 So when you get the six year old kid who's taking tennis lessons, that doesn't mean the 769 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,120 kid can walk into gum. 770 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:14,240 And unfortunately, especially in America, they are usually the kids that can't walk into 771 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:19,640 gum or not as well that you would see on a soccer field, a baseball field, a basketball 772 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:20,640 court. 773 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,360 So tennis is, you know, that's something. 774 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,880 So why don't we take the initiative and say, you know what, we're going to take all the 775 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,840 kids because I used to do this when I would coach five and six year olds. 776 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,040 They knew for the first 25 minutes, they were not picking up a racket. 777 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,040 They were going to do footwork. 778 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,040 They were going to dance. 779 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,040 We were going to catch. 780 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,640 We were going to throw because one year at your coach and I don't know the answer this. 781 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,000 What is your judge of a good athlete? 782 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,640 What is the first thing that you usually look to and say, okay, this person can do something? 783 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,840 What, what, what is something, what does somebody do that catches your eye? 784 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:59,960 I think the movement, natural movement, the way they can start, run, stop, change direction. 785 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:02,640 To look at it, even I'm simpler, throw throwing. 786 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,640 I knew Bobby was going to throw it. 787 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,640 Throw a ball. 788 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,440 I'm interested right away in its movement because you're right. 789 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,240 I mean, it is natural for us to throw underhand. 790 00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:15,640 So if somebody can unbalance, throw a ball, I'm excited. 791 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:21,240 That immediately gives me, okay, we have something here. 792 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,240 We can just help here. 793 00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:27,800 So I mean, I think that's something that, and again, I think the way we judge another great 794 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,680 thing you said was, and somebody asked me, what do you do better than other coaches? 795 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,400 My players come back. 796 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,400 That's all. 797 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,400 They have enough fun where they come back. 798 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,560 Whether it be the music, they'll all complain about my stories. 799 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,840 They'll all complain about my warehouse of worthless information. 800 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,640 They still ask me questions to hear the worthless information. 801 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,840 So, and that's kind of my brand. 802 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,840 Okay, you're going to get a history lesson. 803 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,120 You're going to learn about music. 804 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,920 I am the MTV generation. 805 00:48:54,920 --> 00:49:00,000 So yes, I know everything about every video from 1981 to 1985. 806 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,320 But that's part of my brand. 807 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,800 And I sell that brand as this is something that brings us together. 808 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,200 Now let's expand upon it. 809 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,160 Because I think that's the hard part too. 810 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:16,960 As you get older, unfortunately, the commonality is why there are no atheists and foxholes, or 811 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,000 your best friends are from your school days. 812 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,440 Because there was commonality. 813 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:26,520 As you grow older, you find out there were things, you know, that you weren't exactly alike, 814 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:27,960 but you did have commonality. 815 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,120 As we get older, we lose that commonality. 816 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:35,540 Again, I think look at the tennis culture of Atlanta that provided an adult population 817 00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:42,000 of commonality and look what it is done for tennis in Atlanta because it gave people something 818 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,300 that they could talk about. 819 00:49:44,300 --> 00:49:45,300 And I think it's great. 820 00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:47,860 And you know, it's not all about rankings. 821 00:49:47,860 --> 00:49:50,340 Very few of us are going to win prize money. 822 00:49:50,340 --> 00:49:51,340 Let's have some fun. 823 00:49:51,340 --> 00:49:53,380 Let's get more people playing. 824 00:49:53,380 --> 00:49:54,700 If nothing else, we got the proof. 825 00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:56,340 You're going to live nine years longer. 826 00:49:56,340 --> 00:49:58,700 You know, let's dangle that key. 827 00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:04,020 And whether it's because of the physical or the mental acuity that tennis requires, let's 828 00:50:04,020 --> 00:50:05,020 sell it. 829 00:50:05,020 --> 00:50:08,860 Everybody knows we're going to die, but I don't want to do it tomorrow. 830 00:50:08,860 --> 00:50:13,020 So I want to hang out as long as I can. 831 00:50:13,020 --> 00:50:15,220 Juan appears you struck a chord with Bobby. 832 00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:16,220 That's good. 833 00:50:16,220 --> 00:50:18,020 But guys, we are hitting the end here. 834 00:50:18,020 --> 00:50:19,020 We're up against it. 835 00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:20,460 I really appreciate the time. 836 00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:21,980 Bobby is always with me. 837 00:50:21,980 --> 00:50:22,980 I appreciate it. 838 00:50:22,980 --> 00:50:26,980 Juan, wonderful to see you again, at least on camera and hear your voice. 839 00:50:26,980 --> 00:50:29,460 And maybe one day we'll get to meet in person. 840 00:50:29,460 --> 00:50:31,060 But we appreciate your time as well. 841 00:50:31,060 --> 00:50:32,780 Thank you so much for being here. 842 00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:33,780 I appreciate you guys. 843 00:50:33,780 --> 00:50:34,780 Thank you so much. 844 00:50:34,780 --> 00:50:39,020 And look forward to connecting again soon. 845 00:50:39,020 --> 00:50:40,380 Well, there you have it. 846 00:50:40,380 --> 00:50:45,580 We want to thank reGeovinate.com for use of the studio and signature tennis for their support. 847 00:50:45,580 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