This is Women Road warriors with Shelly Johnson and Kathy Tucaro.
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Speaker BI'm Shelley.
Speaker CAnd I'm Kathy.
Speaker BIt's long been known that music has healing qualities.
Speaker BMusic's been used throughout time in many cultures for healing and medicine.
Speaker BAccording to health psychologists at the University of Wisconsin.
Speaker BIt can help with depression, dementia, speed healing after surgery, among many other benefits.
Speaker BGeralyn Glass knows the power of music better than anyone.
Speaker BShe's an internationally acclaimed singer and pioneer in the field of sound healing.
Speaker BShe's the creator of the Source app and author of Sacred the Transformative Power of Crystalline Sound and Music.
Speaker BGeralyn's known around the globe as a performer.
Speaker BShe shared the stage at science and spirituality conferences with esteemed authors and thought leaders like, like Marianne Williamson, Greg Braden, Dr.
Speaker BBruce Lipton, and Maria Shriver, and perform for European presidents and star athletes Kareem Abdul Jabbar and the late Kobe Bryant.
Speaker BShe's had many prominent students.
Speaker BShe's the founder of Crystal Cadence, a dedicated sound healing studio.
Speaker BWe wanted to learn more about how sound can heal and benefit our listeners, so we invited her on the show.
Speaker BWelcome, Cherilyn.
Speaker BThank you for being with us.
Speaker DThank you so much for the invitation.
Speaker DI'm excited to share with you both.
Speaker BOh, this is going to be great.
Speaker CYes, thank you.
Speaker BYour background is amazing.
Speaker BSherilyn, you've been on Broadway and on opera and concert stages across Europe and worldwide.
Speaker BHow did you get started in all of this?
Speaker BIf you wanted to kind of give our listeners your background, you've done all kinds of things.
Speaker DI know when I look back on my life, I feel incredibly blessed.
Speaker DAnd the thread line, the through line of all of it has been music.
Speaker DAnd I remember very distinctly as a young girl, four years old, twirling around on our front porch and just singing, making sound, moving my body and feeling that this was going to be my life path, like hearing and feeling a connection to what I later would call God, but just feeling this beautiful presence of, oh, my goodness, this is so.
Speaker DThis feels so good.
Speaker DThis is what I'm going to do with my life.
Speaker DAnd that's indeed how it all unfolded.
Speaker DWhen I was 11, I was in the middle school choir.
Speaker DAnd I sang a solo.
Speaker DAnd people said to my parents, what are you gonna do?
Speaker DShe's talented.
Speaker DAnd at that point, there was none of these America's Got Talent or the voice or anything like that.
Speaker DAnd they took me to a neighbor who is today 102 years old, and she was a very well known voice teacher.
Speaker DShe dubbed the voice of Ava Gardner in the MGM musical Showboat, and she dubbed all of Lucille Ball's movies.
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DAnd she had never taken anyone that young.
Speaker DAnd, excuse me, I started my voice lessons with her.
Speaker DAnd that really put me on this path of really wanting to communicate through sound and music and the human voice.
Speaker BSo you became a music major, what, in college, and then you went on to Broadway.
Speaker BI mean, what was your.
Speaker DNo, not really.
Speaker DI think I took a very unusual path.
Speaker DI.
Speaker DI had my first leading role when I was 16 in our community theater.
Speaker DAnd I sang Maria in the Sound of Music.
Speaker DAnd then I was studying acting and voice privately.
Speaker DAnd I started at the university, and it was like, it was very clear what I wanted to do.
Speaker DAnd my parents always said to me, my dad was really encouraging of me to follow my dreams, you know, but he prepared me, Kathy.
Speaker DI mean, he said, geraldine, you have to understand that if you're.
Speaker DAre you willing to pay the price to make your dreams come true?
Speaker DAre you willing to do the hard work?
Speaker DAnd he said, if you are willing to put in that time and really hone your skills, then go for it with everything you have.
Speaker DAnd so I did.
Speaker DI prepared auditions, I worked on my craft.
Speaker DAnd then I went to New York and auditioned, and my first professional show was Mary Magdalene and Jesus Christ Superstar.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker DAnd then.
Speaker DYeah, I mean, and it just unfolded from there.
Speaker BOh, my goodness, that is huge to be able to land a role like that.
Speaker BHow old were you when you got that?
Speaker D19.
Speaker BOh, wow.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DAnd then, you know, I did a national tour of Showboat, and then I was cast as the youngest cast member in the 25th anniversary revival of My Fair lady starring Rex Harrison.
Speaker DAnd I got to play Rex Harrison's Upstairs maid.
Speaker DAnd it was really, really cool.
Speaker DWe toured the United States, and then we came back and played on Broad.
Speaker DAnd after that, I just wanted to explore a broader expression of music.
Speaker DAnd I ended up going to Juilliard and studying classical music formally.
Speaker DAnd then that happened really fast, too.
Speaker DI.
Speaker DI got accepted in the Zurich Opera Studio, which is like a young apprentice program, and they take a handful of students from all around the world, and there I was in Europe singing opera so it was.
Speaker DWow.
Speaker DYeah, it's.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DVery cool.
Speaker BSo were you a colatura soprano?
Speaker DThat's a good question.
Speaker DI was a lyric coloratura soprano.
Speaker DSo for those of you who know classical music or opera, the highest role that I sang was Blanchin in the Abduction from the Seraglio by Mozart.
Speaker DAnd that goes up to.
Speaker DYou have to be able to hit three high E's.
Speaker DSo I never did the Queen of the Night, which is high Fs.
Speaker DI wasn't that high of a voice, but I love to play these kind of sassy maids.
Speaker DAnd I guess when I think about it, that started with My Fair lady.
Speaker DAnd my family would always tease me and say, goodness sakes.
Speaker DThat was definitely not typecasting having you play a maid.
Speaker DBut I had a ton of fun.
Speaker BThat would be a fun show to be in.
Speaker BSo you've had quite the background and you've pivoted in many directions.
Speaker BAnd what a wonderful opportunity to study at Juilliard, too.
Speaker BIt's a mecca of opportunity in New York with music and performance.
Speaker BAnd then you decided what to get into sound, the healing of sound.
Speaker BHow did all that evolve?
Speaker DWell, that's so interesting, too, because I think as a singer, and I want to share this with everybody, that we all understand that we are this human instrument, and every single one of us has our own unique vibrational signature.
Speaker DSo I always followed that philosophy.
Speaker DAnd then when I became a professor and I was teaching young people to sing, it wasn't, you know, that you needed to copy someone or be like this or sound like this.
Speaker DIt was the beauty of discovering, as I spent my life doing what's my unique timbre, what's my unique way of expressing.
Speaker DSo whether you sing or not, everybody can speak, you know, and so what is your unique vibrational signature?
Speaker DAnd I learned as a singer that I had to project my special energy, my color, my one of a kind uniqueness through these two tiny vocal cords, sometimes into theaters that had 3,000 seats without any amplification.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DSo you learn to be this.
Speaker DYou learn to understand you're a vibratory instrument.
Speaker DAnd I think that joy.
Speaker DI understood that.
Speaker DAnd about 18 years ago, I came back from Europe and I was traveling with my mom, and we heard somebody do a presentation about the crystal singing bowls.
Speaker DAnd at that time, I had been into the Tibetan singing bowls, the metal singing bowls.
Speaker DAnd like, for example, I had done a tour of Japan, and I remember bringing my two little Tibetan singing bowls.
Speaker DAnd before performances, I would put them on my belly.
Speaker DI would tone with Them, I would warm up my voice with them, you know, just hanging, ah, just making different sounds.
Speaker DBut when I heard those crystal balls, it was a totally different sound.
Speaker DAnd I was like, mom, I have to get.
Speaker DI have to get some of these because they inspired sort of a memory of an ancient.
Speaker DI can't explain it in such that, you know, when you hear different pieces of music and you go, oh, my gosh, that resonates so much with me.
Speaker DThere was something about those crystal ball sounds that was like, I know these sounds.
Speaker DThey're beautiful.
Speaker DAnd so I brought seven bowls back to Germany and started using them with my students and my clients.
Speaker DJust, I'm going to say just for fun, because I thought they were so beautiful, just like an instrument.
Speaker DAnd as the years progressed, I understood that those instruments had the ability to help us quiet our mind, you know, because you hear this beautiful, this beautiful sound and suddenly it's like, wow, that's music.
Speaker DAnd then suddenly your mind becomes still and, and you begin to drop deeper into yourself.
Speaker DAnd so, you know, I've been playing them 18 years, but really using them fully in therapy for the last, just about 10 years for our listeners.
Speaker BWhat exactly are the crystal singing bowls?
Speaker BWhat were they used for originally and what do they do?
Speaker DIt's very interesting.
Speaker DSo imagine in the 80s in Silicon Valley and, and they were creating computer chips, and the whole computer industry was really starting to grow.
Speaker DSo they needed pure.
Speaker DThey used these pure quartz crucibles, which could be fired at high temperatures to work with these pieces that they needed for the computer.
Speaker DThe computer chips.
Speaker DAnd then they discovered that some of those made a beautiful sound if you tapped them.
Speaker DAnd some of them, of course, cracked and were destroyed in the process.
Speaker DBut that's how the crystal singing bowls began in the 80s.
Speaker DAnd in the year 2000, the Alchemy Bowls started to be made with the infusion of, let's say, amethyst, salt, charcoal, citrine.
Speaker DSo then you have these alchemies that are powerful in themselves.
Speaker DThose of you who love crystals and love earth substances, frankincense, you know, they do have an energy.
Speaker DAnd when those are fired with the pure quartz, as you play those singing bowls, those elements get amplified.
Speaker DSo they're not just the playing quartz bowls, they've got other components.
Speaker DSo they're not just visually beautiful, but something gets added to the sound.
Speaker BThis is so cool.
Speaker DIt is.
Speaker BWe'll learn more about these crystal balls, including how they sound.
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Speaker BFor centuries, music has been used across cultures to heal the body and soothe the soul, and modern science backs it up.
Speaker BStudies show music can ease depression, support dementia patients, and even speed post surgery recovery.
Speaker BGeralyn Glass knows this power firsthand.
Speaker BShe's an internationally acclaimed singer and pioneer in sound healing.
Speaker BShe's the creator of the Source app, author of Sacred Vibrations, the transformative power of crystalline sound in music, and founder of Crystal Cadence, a sound healing studio.
Speaker BShe's had many celebrity clients and she's performed for world leaders and appeared alongside thought leaders like Marianne Williamson and Maria Shriver.
Speaker BGeralyn uses crystal singing bowls to help people tap into their unique vibrational signature and begin the process of healing.
Speaker BGERALYN so sound healing, how does it work?
Speaker BYou talk about the transformative power of crystalline sound in music.
Speaker BWhat is crystalline sound?
Speaker BI know that our listeners probably have no idea what all of this is.
Speaker DOkay, so that is a great question.
Speaker DI'm just gonna tap a few bowls for you so you can hear.
Speaker DSo just take a listen.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker DWow.
Speaker DSo what I just played for you, take a listen.
Speaker DThis would be a very low sound.
Speaker DSo can you feel the, can you feel the resonance and can you feel and hear the beauty of those sounds?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker DSo what I just played for you were octaves.
Speaker DI played a low C in octave 3, a middle C in octave 4, and a high C in octave 5, the last three notes that I played.
Speaker DAnd there's so much to be said about the physics of sound, the theory of sound.
Speaker DAs you said in the introduction, sound has been used, really, in just about every culture since the beginning of time.
Speaker DPeople used vibration.
Speaker DThey came together, they drummed together, they sang together, they played their wooden flutes.
Speaker DThe ancient aborigines used their yadaki, or the old form of a didgeridoo.
Speaker DSo just feel how good one feels when one hears sound and music.
Speaker DAnd it's a way that brings us together in community.
Speaker DBut what makes the crystal bowls so special is that we, ourselves, as human beings, we have a crystalline structure to us.
Speaker DSo I was fascinated to learn this because, as I said, I loved the Tibetan, the metal singing bowls.
Speaker DBut when I heard these, I was like, oh, wow.
Speaker DSo our blood has a crystalline structure and our bones have a crystalline structure.
Speaker DAnd there's something about that similarity that allows us to receive these vibrations perhaps easier than anything else.
Speaker BThat's amazing.
Speaker BAnd, well, when you think about it, life, our world, everything is sound and everything is a frequency, and everything is a certain octave.
Speaker BAnd it is true, certain sounds can really make you just cringe.
Speaker DYes.
Speaker BWell, like somebody, what, scraping their finger nail on the chalkboard, for instance, that's always bugged me.
Speaker BThere's certain sounds I just do not like.
Speaker BBut then there are others that draw me in.
Speaker DThat's interesting that you say that.
Speaker DSo can I speak into that?
Speaker DSo what started me on this path, really, really using sound as a medicine?
Speaker DBecause, you know, before that time 10 years ago, I was a musician that loved sound and loved to watch how it affected people.
Speaker DBut in my own life 10 years ago, I lost my only child, and he was 19, and he knew the bowls really well.
Speaker DSo from the time he was little, when I brought the bowls home, he was seven.
Speaker DAnd he'd always say, mommy, Mommy, bring me to bed with my sound blanket.
Speaker DSo I'd give him a form of a sound bath.
Speaker DI didn't know what I was doing at that time, but we'd say our prayers, we would do little meditation, and he'd fall asleep.
Speaker DAnd then when he was 13, he was in a big national singing contest in Germany, and he made it to the semifinals.
Speaker DAnd a week before the semifinal audition, he.
Speaker DHis voice started to drop.
Speaker DAnd at that point, as a professor, I had never guided a young person through their voice change.
Speaker DAnd so we used the singing bowls, and we actually used a little G note.
Speaker DG corresponds to the throat chakra and the alchemy of that bowl was citrine, which works with your personal power, your confidence, and your courage.
Speaker DIt's yellow.
Speaker DAnd so he knew those bowls really well, and he stood up to do his audition, and he said, hello, my name is Dylan, and since one week, I'm no longer a soprano.
Speaker DAnd everybody roared, and I watched my son step on that stage and perform in a way that I never dreamed was possible as he was going through his voice change.
Speaker DSo the bulls have this ability to.
Speaker DI don't know.
Speaker DI mean, for so many people, it's different.
Speaker DAnd now I have worked with cancer patients, hospice patients, veterans, worked with ptsd, with children.
Speaker DBut.
Speaker DBut when I went on my own journey, when I lost him, I remember that the first bowl I played was a bowl I knew alchemy was Selenite.
Speaker DSelenite.
Speaker DIt's a beautiful white kind of stone, and it's about grounded white light and protection.
Speaker DAs I played that bowl, it started screeching like nails on a chalkboard.
Speaker DAnd I'm like, geralyn, what is going on here?
Speaker DLike, I had no idea.
Speaker DKathy and Shelley, I had no idea how.
Speaker DHow this beautiful instrument could suddenly sound like what you said, nails on a chalkboard.
Speaker DAnd, of course, me as a professor and an artist, I was like, what are you doing wrong?
Speaker DLike, what's happening with your technique?
Speaker DAnd it was like.
Speaker DWhat I came to learn was that bowl, that crystalline instrument, was reflecting to me my grief that I could not express.
Speaker DAnd I had been in talk therapy trying to just talk it through.
Speaker DWhat happened.
Speaker DIt can't have been my life, my child.
Speaker DIt couldn't have been, you know, and you can talk, talk, talk, but when we have deep things that happen in our lives, whether it's illnesses or losses and griefs, whatever it is in our lives, and we all have things I couldn't talk it through.
Speaker DI mean, I could talk it through, but it didn't shift it.
Speaker DAnd as I started to play the bowl and it had this sound like nails on a chalkboard.
Speaker DIn time, not then, in that moment, but in time, I began to realize, oh, my.
Speaker DThat bowl was reflecting my grief.
Speaker DBecause after I played that one Single bowl, about 50 minutes, I started in the process to just cry and keen and groan, and I got up to go wash my face, and I saw for the first time since my child had died that there was light in my eyes.
Speaker DAnd it was like, oh, my, Geralyn, something.
Speaker DSomething's happening here.
Speaker DBut, you know, I was exploring in an incredibly personal way.
Speaker DIt wasn't as a musician and it wasn't as a teacher.
Speaker DIt was, how do I move my own grief?
Speaker DHow do I even feel it?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CIt is a very deep healing.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DAnd so sometimes sounds, you know, can be discordant or they can be screechy like that, and they may be helping us to dislodge and release trapped energies.
Speaker DBut, like, for example, when I'm working with sound, if I would make this sound that's not as pretty as this sound.
Speaker DRight, right.
Speaker DFirst one is a little more discordant.
Speaker BYeah, I was going to say discordant.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DI technically don't work with giving people sounds that are very discordant.
Speaker DI prefer to create a really safe space and to really work with people in a gentle and just integral manner so that you feel you're at the.
Speaker DHow do I say it to you?
Speaker DYou're at the core of your own healing work.
Speaker DI don't want to impose a dissonant sound on somebody and say, I'm going to shake this out of you.
Speaker DI want people to feel as I did as I started working with sound, safe enough that suddenly past traumas or things that you've covered start to reveal themselves in a way that's comfortable for you, and you are able to go through the discomfort in a way that you feel safe.
Speaker DSo, like, when I first brought the Bolds back to Germany, I was working with some of my students, and if one of my particular students had a blockage in her voice, she couldn't get up into her higher register.
Speaker DAnd so I had her choose one of the bowls, and I had her make sounds.
Speaker DAnd it was actually this note.
Speaker DIt's a note of a D.
Speaker DAnd I had her make sounds with it.
Speaker DAnd suddenly her whole voice opened up, and then she remembered a childhood trauma.
Speaker DSo this was kind of like one of my first experiences, not yet being working with sound as a healing modality, but she remembered a trauma.
Speaker DShe started crying.
Speaker DShe expressed the memory, and then the voice really opened up, and I was like, whoa.
Speaker DLike the sound of the bull.
Speaker DWith her in training, her voice to that sound opened a whole level of healing that I don't know that we could have ever gotten to.
Speaker BThis is amazing.
Speaker BGeralyn, I wanted to express my condolences for your son, the loss of your son.
Speaker BIt's very traumatic.
Speaker DThat's awful.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DAnd yet, you know, thank you very much.
Speaker DI mean, and yet, you know, I think all of us have a bigger picture of our lives, a bigger purpose, you know, And I'll tease now because he communicates with me through sound and I'll tease and go, son, you know, I don't remember signing that soul contract with you that you were going to go before me.
Speaker DAnd when I see you, we're going to have a little talk about it, you know, but it's like all of us have a bigger view of our lives.
Speaker DAnd for me to really understand over the years, you know, it's been a process now these past 10 years, but to understand, my son and I, we had a soul contract and he was going to go earlier.
Speaker DAnd, you know, I saw that I had the choice to sit in grief the rest of my life or I had the choice to do something about it.
Speaker DAnd I just recognized if I didn't feel the grief and process it and deal with it, I'd probably never get out of my bed.
Speaker DAnd that began this journey for me then into sound.
Speaker DAfter the experience I described to you about playing that one bowl, and I started to volunteer for cancer patients and started to lead sound baths.
Speaker DNow, understand, here's a singer, a Broadway and classical singer, I've never led a meditation.
Speaker DAnd I started to script myself meditations and offer them to the cancer patients.
Speaker DAnd my life and their lives began to transform.
Speaker DAnd it was like, oh, my gosh, there's something here that's beyond what any of us are comprehending.
Speaker DAnd yet, as it developed over these last 10 years, many people were healed and many lives changed.
Speaker DAnd of course, for those people whose destiny was to pass, they passed.
Speaker DBut they passed with a they passed with this blanket and this comfort of sound holding them and this bigger understanding of this bigger viewpoint of our destiny, of our lives.
Speaker DDoes that make sense?
Speaker BYeah, Absolutely.
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Speaker AWelcome back to Women Road warriors with Shelly Johnson and Kathy Tucaro.
Speaker BWe've been talking about the power of music not just as entertainment, but as a tool for healing.
Speaker BAnd it's not just ancient wisdom anymore.
Speaker BResearch shows music can help with depression, dementia, even recovery from surgery.
Speaker BIt can calm us and take us into a deeper level of ourselves.
Speaker BGeralyn Glass knows this very well.
Speaker BShe's an internationally recognized singer, a trailblazer in Sound healing and the founder of Crystal Cadence.
Speaker BShe created the Source app, wrote Sacred the Transformative Power of Crystalline Sound and Music, and has worked with celebrities, world leaders and visionaries.
Speaker BUsing Crystal Singing bowl, she helps people discover their own unique vibrational frequency and heal from the inside out.
Speaker BWe've been listening to just a little of that power, especially the power that Geralyn's been able to bring to people who are ill in the healing power of sound and music.
Speaker CShelley, have you ever attended one of these sound healing sessions?
Speaker BI have not.
Speaker DI have.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CHere in Cochrane, this tiny little town at the base of the Rocky Mountains in Alberta, Canada, my mother and my niece and myself, they brought me here to this sound.
Speaker CIt was like an hour long meditation, kind of exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker CAnd I have to say, I had a lot of things going on in my life at the time and so did my niece.
Speaker CAnd it actually.
Speaker CWell, number one, I fell asleep, but number two, I woke up feeling different than when I fell asleep.
Speaker CI can't explain it, but.
Speaker CBut all I can say is from personal experience, that sound, the vibration as you're laying there, as it reverberates.
Speaker CIs that a word?
Speaker CYeah, it reverberates into your astral body, your soul body, just everything that you're made of.
Speaker CIt literally uplifts and transforms and releases stress that you didn't even know that you had.
Speaker CAnd my niece, who has a hard time doing meditation and stuff, this actually helped.
Speaker CShe's got a lot of anxiety and has a hard time sitting still.
Speaker CThis really, really helped her so much, to the point that she bought herself her own bowl.
Speaker CShe ordered one just so that it could help her.
Speaker CSo, yes, I believe in it 100%.
Speaker DWhat you experienced is the sound quieted your mind and you went to sleep, but the sound was still being received in every cell of you.
Speaker DI mean, I always laugh.
Speaker DThere was one situation where I was doing a sound bath and five men were in the front row and boom, boom, boom, all five went out and started snoring.
Speaker DI mean, it was just.
Speaker DIt was such a humorous experience because it'll take you to that very deep place.
Speaker DBut even when you're sleeping, as you said, you.
Speaker DYou're still receiving the sound.
Speaker DAnd that I just recently I wrote about in the book about just our pain industry and how many millions and millions of dollars it costs.
Speaker DBut now I just heard on last a few days ago, the industry for depression and anxiety has become a $680 billion industry.
Speaker DAnd those medicines help 50% of the people only 50% of the time.
Speaker DAnd then the pain medicine is even less than that, 40% of the people.
Speaker DSo it's like when you describe your niece.
Speaker DWas it your niece?
Speaker CYeah, my niece.
Speaker DIt's like, how do we help ourselves?
Speaker DHow do we help young people?
Speaker DHow do we help our family members?
Speaker DThere's not a pill necessary that you can take.
Speaker DIt's like, with my student that I described, would she ever have gotten into that trauma?
Speaker DMaybe it would have reared its head at some point and she might not have been able to identify it.
Speaker DBut the sound created, again, this safety, that suddenly she just expressed it right.
Speaker DAnd there's so many things, especially now in our world, that are helping to really cause a lot of anxiety and depression and nervousness and illness for people.
Speaker DAnd it's like sound and sound played with intention and with technique can help us go in those places and breathe and feel them and release them.
Speaker BYeah, well, just think of the sound.
Speaker COf the ocean, right?
Speaker COr the sound of running water by a creek.
Speaker CWhen you're sitting there and you're closing your eyes, you're just listening.
Speaker COr the sound of the rustling leaves or the sound of birds singing.
Speaker CIt could be the basics.
Speaker CIt doesn't have to be, you know, exorbitant.
Speaker CIt could be the simple things that if we close our eyes and tune into it and open ourselves and allow ourselves to have that sound enter us and mix with our vibrations.
Speaker CI think, Shelley, you gotta try it.
Speaker DOh, you gotta.
Speaker BWell, you know, just do.
Speaker BI very much resonate with sound.
Speaker BI've been a.
Speaker BI was originally a music major, so, I mean, I love.
Speaker BI hear music everywhere, and I.
Speaker BMaybe that's one of the reasons I love spring so much.
Speaker BI live in an area, obviously, that gets cold in the wintertime and it's so quiet, but yet the world comes alive and you hear the birds and you hear all of the different things.
Speaker BIt's the sound.
Speaker BMaybe that's what I resonate with, that I'm coming alive again.
Speaker BI'm curious as to how this sound therapy works.
Speaker BWhat exactly is happening with the body?
Speaker DWell, I mean, there's been a lot of studies now, and we're just starting to study the crystal balls because they're a relatively new instrument, really, as I said earlier, since the year 2000, we're starting to study them now.
Speaker DBut sound has been known to help stop or reduce the production of cortisol, so.
Speaker DHelp.
Speaker DThat fight or flight impulse that we get, it changes the body's chemistry, helps to produce more dopamine in the body can help to produce more leukocytes to strengthen the immunity.
Speaker DSo sound is being integrated into hospitals, like before operations.
Speaker DSound is being integrated.
Speaker DI just had an incredible experience with a Parkinson's patient where I was playing.
Speaker DWe were actually in a larger group, and everybody was toning with the bowls.
Speaker DAnd he just had an experience where he was steady on his feet.
Speaker DAnd he just said, jerome, what's happening?
Speaker DExplain it to me.
Speaker DHe said, I'm not wobbling anymore, right?
Speaker DSo sound has been used and can be used.
Speaker DIt helps to steady the nervous system.
Speaker DAnd again, with the crystal bowls, we're beginning to really explore what is it doing.
Speaker DBut I think the interesting thing, one of the most interesting things is that there is no one size fits all.
Speaker DSo just as I explained, like, I can't say to you, okay, take that C major chord and make sure it has the alchemy of amethyst and rose quartz and salt.
Speaker DAnd that's gonna do it for your nervous system.
Speaker DIt's really like, think about what kind of music you like.
Speaker DSo, Shelley, when you're driving, you know, what do you like to listen to?
Speaker BYou know, it depends on what I'm doing, but I tend to like to rock it.
Speaker DRock it kind of loud, right?
Speaker DAnd when you think about, you know, people have said over the years, oh, baroque music, you need to listen to Vivaldi or Bach or Handel.
Speaker DIt's not just that.
Speaker DWe're finding that the real intense bass and the rhythm of pop music or rap music in a certain way is very soothing for people.
Speaker DSo it's really finding what you respond to and what you love.
Speaker DThe crystal balls are a different thing in the sense that they create, like, this carpet of smooth sound, a sound with a lot of overtones and vibrations.
Speaker DSo, like, Kathy, what you were describing, you just go deeply out.
Speaker DBut in that moment, your subconscious is still very, very active and it's receiving the sound, you know, and we can talk about the sound taking us into different brainwave states that you go, you know, very in a very deep brainwave state or that it activates people.
Speaker DI've had people that get very excited and say, after sound bath, I got all these creative ideas, right?
Speaker DSo it's what feels good to you in the moment.
Speaker BYou know, it's kind of interesting.
Speaker BI like to listen to music, but if I'm doing something that's extremely boring, like technical writing or something like that, I can't list listen to the music because I want to get up, dance, play, do something.
Speaker BIt takes my mind off of what I'm focused on.
Speaker BAnd I listen to a lot of music when I'm cleaning because I hate to clean.
Speaker BIt gets me motivated if I'm outside working in my garden, that sort of thing, it just adds to what I'm doing and I think it helps with my motivation.
Speaker BIt makes me feel good.
Speaker BSo it definitely has a purpose.
Speaker BAnd of course, I change up the kind of music I'm listening to.
Speaker DAnd you know what was said earlier, like just go outside of nature.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker DTouch a tree, take some deep breaths, feel your feet on the ground and listen to the birds.
Speaker DOr listen to the trickling of the water.
Speaker DLike it's just sound.
Speaker DAnd reverberation is something that really soothes our nervous system.
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Speaker BMusic and sound are powerful tools for healing.
Speaker BModern research backs what ancient cultures have long known.
Speaker BMusic can ease depression and mend what ails us.
Speaker BOur guest, Geralyn Glass lives this truth.
Speaker BShe's a world renowned singer, sound healing pioneer and founder of Crystal Cadence.
Speaker BShe created the Source app, wrote Sacred the transformative Power of Crystalline Sound and music and has worked with global leaders and celebrities through crystal singing bowls.
Speaker BShe helps people unlock their unique vibrational frequency and heal from within.
Speaker BSound has a positive impact on the body in so many ways.
Speaker BWe're learning about it.
Speaker BYou know, Geralyn, you've helped a lot of people, a lot of celebrities.
Speaker BGwyneth Paltrow had said that a session with you is magic.
Speaker BThis is so interesting.
Speaker BWhat do you do with people?
Speaker BAnd can our listeners actually reach out to you and work with you remotely?
Speaker BHow does all of this work?
Speaker DOh, thank you for asking, Anne.
Speaker DI adore Gwyneth.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DYes, they can.
Speaker DOn our website, crystalcadence.com and there's different ways.
Speaker DYou could work with me in private sessions.
Speaker DYou can study in like an introductory class.
Speaker DSo for people who just want to learn more about what is this?
Speaker DWhat's the theory behind it?
Speaker DWhat's the science behind it?
Speaker DYou know, more about what we're talking about, I offer these introductory Classes that are virtual.
Speaker DAnd then I offer like for example, we're offering an in person retreat in August, first time that I'm doing that.
Speaker DBut the, the wishes and the requests have been so many over the years for people that don't want to study about the bulls because I teach over 120 hours of trainings with the actual bulls.
Speaker DBut this is going to be a healing retreat for everybody.
Speaker DAnd again, you know, we need to find more and more ways that the average person can integrate music as a medicine for themselves.
Speaker DWhether it's a physical pain or an emotional pain or whatever it is, anxiety, depression.
Speaker DSo yeah, everything's listed on our website, crystalcadence.com and then I have a lot of music.
Speaker DSo there's a YouTube channel that has I think over 200 meditations that are free.
Speaker DIt's like a free library.
Speaker DAnd my, my son was very adamant about, mom, you gotta make this available for everybody.
Speaker DYou know, and so there's that way on our YouTube channel.
Speaker DAnd then we've created, as you said in the intro, we've created an app called Source Be Inspired.
Speaker DAnd it's a platform that's also on our website.
Speaker DAnd it's a platform where science, spirituality and the healing power of music all intersect on this app.
Speaker DSo we have some talks by leading scientists.
Speaker DThere's sound baths, there's bioenergetics, there's tuning forks, there's body movement and yoga.
Speaker DSo I really feel impassioned to bring this information to everybody.
Speaker DAnd the app has a free version and then there's a very inexpensive yearly plan for it and new content is coming on regularly.
Speaker DIt's just, I feel like we need to be empowered now.
Speaker BWe do.
Speaker DIt's very important.
Speaker DSo, yeah, people can reach me@ CrystalCadens.com.
Speaker BYou know, I think that the proper sounds, if they resonate with people, as you were saying, discordant.
Speaker BI think the chaos that we have in our world makes us feel unbalanced at a discord.
Speaker BI know that I have always been very sensitive to sound and maybe frequencies.
Speaker BI know this is not necessarily a sound, but it is a frequency.
Speaker BMRIs bother me.
Speaker BThey just really make me cringe.
Speaker BIt's the vibration, I think it's the magnetic force behind it.
Speaker BBut I really don't feel good after I've been around something like that.
Speaker BSo when you think about it, with all the discord we have in life that could add to our feeling like crap and really hurt our health in many ways.
Speaker DIt's very interesting that you bring that up.
Speaker DIt's so true.
Speaker DIt's the high pitches.
Speaker DSo also for me, also at the dentist, when they're using the high pitch, it's a very good thing for all people to just integrate is just hum.
Speaker DUnless they tell you, don't do that, then I'll interrupt.
Speaker DBut I know when I go to the dentist, she knows that I'm going to be humming as best I can, you know, depending what's being done.
Speaker DBut humming can help calm your nervous system also.
Speaker DSo remembering that we are our own resonant singing bowl, we're it, you know?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DI use the.
Speaker CThe word huge mantra or an ancient name for.
Speaker CFor God.
Speaker CAnd when I do that, they call it the sound of soul.
Speaker CAnd I just sing it over and over and over and it kind of.
Speaker DGoes like this, hu.
Speaker COver and over.
Speaker CAnd it really.
Speaker DIt is.
Speaker CI've been singing it since I've been 14, and it reconnects me.
Speaker CIt re.
Speaker CIt when I'm anxious or when I'm whatever.
Speaker CIt just.
Speaker CIt grounds me, it brings me back to where I need to be and it really helps.
Speaker CAnd it's different if I just hum it quietly or if I do it out loud or different tones.
Speaker CAnd so for me, it's been like magic.
Speaker CIt just.
Speaker CIt's really transformed my life and it helps me.
Speaker CSo.
Speaker CYes, you're right.
Speaker CEven just saying during the dentist, it will help.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DBut Hugh is.
Speaker DI use that a lot with the cancer patients.
Speaker DHu, people like also O.
Speaker DYeah, they do, too.
Speaker DOr they like ma.
Speaker DReally Dropping your jaw and toning the ma, Ma, hu.
Speaker DOm are incredibly powerful.
Speaker BWhat happens?
Speaker BIs it something within our inner ear?
Speaker BWhat goes on when you make a sound like that?
Speaker DOh, there's a lot to say about that.
Speaker DI mean, we talk about om being the sound of creation, you know, so it depends, you know, Hu, you have a certain vowel.
Speaker DMa, you have the ah vowel.
Speaker DOm, you have the ah, om.
Speaker DSo it's different vowels do different things in our bodies.
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DAnd again, it's so interesting to say that there's really no one size fits all, because hue has been fantastic for you.
Speaker DSomebody else might say, oh, I really resonate with the omn.
Speaker DAnd someone else might say, I really resonate with the ma.
Speaker DAnd someone else might say, and I just love to hum.
Speaker DSo it's really finding what, again, is resonant for you and what feels like it empowers you, quiets your mind so that you, you know, as you were.
Speaker BSaying, you just feel at peace now with these sounds.
Speaker BDoes that assist people if they want to be better at meditation.
Speaker DSure.
Speaker DAnd I think what's been so interesting about the singing bowls coming more and more popular again, first the metal bowls for hundreds of years, and now the crystal bowls, is that for many people, as you understand, it's hard to sit and be quiet in meditation.
Speaker DBut when you describe, like, going to your first sound bath in your hometown, like, sound gives people their permission.
Speaker DOh, you know, it's like when I first heard the bowls, it's like, oh, they're music.
Speaker DI love this guy.
Speaker DI get it.
Speaker DRight?
Speaker DSo sound gives people the permission to breathe, and then their mind begins to quiet because your mind focuses on the sound.
Speaker DAnd when you're just doing a traditional meditation, like, for example, I had a cancer patient who, after her first sound bath with me, and I would employ my voice in the sound bath, she just said, geralyn, I don't know how to put this into words, but she said she had stage four liver cancer.
Speaker DAnd she just said, I've been a traditional meditator for 28 years, meditating in silence, and I never meditated with sound before.
Speaker DShe said, I am no longer afraid of dying and death because I've heard the sounds of heaven.
Speaker DWow.
Speaker DSo it was an auditory thing for her that changed her whole perception of what it means to meditate.
Speaker DSo I think for the average person, it's hard for us to sit still.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DAnd quiet our minds.
Speaker DBut if you have music going on, that gives us really an ability to be more at ease as we come in the silence, and then it gives us a safety once again to explore our inner world.
Speaker DBecause when you ask yourself, where does healing happen?
Speaker DHow does healing happen?
Speaker DIs it the pill?
Speaker DIs it the operation?
Speaker DIs it my prayers?
Speaker DIs it my meditation?
Speaker DIs it going out in nature and being just surrounded by these beautiful sounds of nature.
Speaker DI feel like this is a question I've been asking myself.
Speaker DHow am I healing?
Speaker DHow am I helping people to heal?
Speaker DYou know?
Speaker DAnd when my son died, so many people said to me, yeah, you're never gonna get over it, you know, so just, you know, live with it, but in that kind of way.
Speaker DAnd it was just like, wow.
Speaker DAnd I could feel him like, mom, you know, it's not something that you're gonna carry a sadness for the rest of your life.
Speaker DHe didn't want that.
Speaker DAnd yet it's a fine line, if that makes sense to you both.
Speaker DIt's a fine line between how do I accept my fate and my destiny.
Speaker DYes, there are days where I miss him so dearly and imagine you know, if he was alive, what would he be creating?
Speaker DWho would he have become as a person?
Speaker DBut then also that feeling of sound helping me to be at peace, to be at a deep sense of acceptance, you know, and the idea of living the rest of your life just in grief is.
Speaker DIt's just.
Speaker DI don't feel like that's how we were made to be.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker DYou know, but how do we deal with the challenges and how do we heal?
Speaker DHow do we at least bring light?
Speaker DAnd, you know, as we talk about, like, when a bowl breaks, for example, there's.
Speaker DIf it's like three or four pieces, sometimes the bowl can be repaired.
Speaker DAnd it's sort of like if the bowl is healed or morphed, how.
Speaker DWhen our hearts get broken, how do we knit them back together?
Speaker DHow do we do that?
Speaker DBecause, you know, think about a wound on your finger or whatever, and you get a scab, and then the wound heals, and then you don't see any trace of it anymore.
Speaker DHow do we as human beings activate that ability within each of us to transform and heal?
Speaker DAnd for me, sound really became that medicine, and I'm just so passionate about sharing it with people because everybody has access to music.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt's a fabric that really connects all organisms, isn't it, when you think about it?
Speaker DI think so, yeah.
Speaker CI call it the golden thread.
Speaker BI love that, Kathy.
Speaker BGolden thread, yes.
Speaker BThat's profound.
Speaker BSo, Geralyn, do people just reach out to you on your website?
Speaker BI mean, you have so many resources here.
Speaker BYou've got your book, Sacred Vibrations, and you also have your Crystal Cadence website, as well as your Geralyn Glass website, too.
Speaker BThere's so many things that people can tap into.
Speaker BThis is terrific.
Speaker DYes.
Speaker DAnd we also created.
Speaker DThat first project I did with Hay House Publishing was an Oracle deck, and that was something that my son really guided me to do.
Speaker DAnd we actually did the first of its kind, Oracle deck, that has QR codes on the card.
Speaker DSo when you choose a card like an Oracle deck, if you guys don't know what that is, like angel cards, and you have a deck of 48 cards, and you choose one, you may ask a question or just, what's my message for today?
Speaker DBut the QR code then leads you to the sound of the singing bowl.
Speaker DSo it's also a fun way for people to have access to the sound and have a special personalized message for them.
Speaker DSo.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DAnd then we have social media, we're on Instagram and threads, and I just try to put out as much Calming and loving and compassionate energy in the world as I can through sound.
Speaker DSo I'd be delighted to hear from any of you who are intrigued by this world of sound and music as medicine.
Speaker DAnd everything is on the website.
Speaker DWe do have also a members portal and the members portal was also designed because people wanted to have these kinds of conversations monthly.
Speaker DSo we have a live Q and A with me monthly.
Speaker DAnd then there's always a guest speaker in the members portal.
Speaker DThat's.
Speaker DWe have also now a library, I think of six years of very well known people, some of the people that I've worked with over the years.
Speaker DAnd then you have a new meditation, a sound healing meditation every month.
Speaker DSo that's another way that's listed on the Crystal Cadence website, the members portal.
Speaker BThis is so neat.
Speaker BIs there a particular note that is the most calming?
Speaker BBecause everything's a frequency and everything is a note really.
Speaker BIs there one that you would maybe recommend for people to use?
Speaker DTake a listen to this because that's a great question.
Speaker DAnd I'll come back to all the time.
Speaker DThere's no one size fits all.
Speaker DBut take a listen here so you might recognize that as Dover mi fa, so la ti do.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DCommon music.
Speaker DThe C major scale.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker DYou know, can I say that one of those sounds is the one that's going to do it?
Speaker DNo.
Speaker DAnd each of those bowls in as you'll see, as if.
Speaker DIf the guests explore my website and my YouTube channel and all those things, you'll see that each of the sets that I play is different and each of the alchemies of the bowls is different.
Speaker DAnd then you add to it.
Speaker DWell, what's the tuning of the set?
Speaker DSo music today is 440Hertz.
Speaker DSome of the bowls are tuned to 528Hertz and some are tuned to 432Hertz.
Speaker DWhich do you like better?
Speaker DYou know, so again, it's like this personal journey that's I love to help people curate if they want to purchase bowls, to curate sets of bowls that are really designed for you and what's going on with you.
Speaker DSo it's a world that's just.
Speaker DIt's so rich and there's so many possibilities inherent in the world of sound.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DSo I would say if I had to give you one pointer, I'd say it would be important for people to start with a grounded sound.
Speaker DIt would be important to have a sound that's more like this or even like this one.
Speaker DSomething that's more grounding as opposed to this one.
Speaker DYou Wouldn't want to start with a really high note because that's going to take you out of the body, you know, and we've talked about nature in our conversation.
Speaker DNature is grounding, and it's important that we are grounded and anchored, that we're not floating all over the place.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DSo I would say a grounded sound, whatever that feels good to you, would be an important first note.
Speaker DBut I don't want to say to you it's a C.
Speaker DIt's a.
Speaker DIt's a C sharp.
Speaker DOr because it's going to be individual, I can get really nerdy and technical about stuff.
Speaker DSo it's like just what feels good to you?
Speaker DAnd is it a sound that makes me feel grounded?
Speaker DThat would be important.
Speaker BThis has been so insightful, Geralyn.
Speaker BI have rearranged it.
Speaker DTruly, truly has.
Speaker CThank you.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker DOh, my pleasure.
Speaker DIt's fun when people are interested because it's definitely, you know, I got to present in Washington, D.C.
Speaker Din 2023 for the Kennedy center, the National Institutes of Health, and leaning scientists and researchers.
Speaker DAnd most of them had never heard the crystal singing bowls before.
Speaker DAnd they were blown away.
Speaker DI mean, they were really blown away, what they felt.
Speaker DAnd music therapists were there.
Speaker DAnd I just feel like this is, you know, these are definitely new instruments, and they are so beautiful that it helps people pretty immediately.
Speaker DSo it's exciting.
Speaker DSo thank you for giving me the opportunity to chat and share my passion.
Speaker BWell, thank you for sharing with us.
Speaker BI think this is transformative for so many people on so many levels.
Speaker BWe appreciate you being on the show, Geralyn.
Speaker BThis has been terrific.
Speaker DThank you again.
Speaker DYes.
Speaker CThank you so much for your insights.
Speaker DYou're most welcome.
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