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Hey, welcome in everybody to the Craft Beer Republic!

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Thanks for drinkin', thanks for joinin'.

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I am Greg, and being joined by the buffest guy you know, and that's Flex.

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What's up big fella?

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Hello there, munchman!

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Hangin' out.

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Yeah?

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Drinkin' some beer?

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Yeah, how are you doin'?

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I rarely ask you how you're doing.

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That is very nice of you.

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Very kind.

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I'm, you know, I'm busy.

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I'm trying to juggle things.

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Work's been nuts.

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I'm lookin' forward to, like, the end of the year when things finally are gonna

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, in theory,

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calm down a little with work, and...

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But I'll keep tellin' my family that I'm busy as fuck, so I don't have to see

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them.

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Hell yes.

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Yeah.

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Nothing like, nothing like Christmas, uh, with divorced parents, to just make

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you run

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all over everywhere.

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All over the fuckin' place.

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All over the fuckin' planet.

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Terrible.

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My parents divorced.

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My parents are terrible.

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Yeah, her parents divorced.

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Oh, what a shitshow Christmas.

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Reveal four Christmases.

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Only four?

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Oh, I wish.

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That'd be a dream come true.

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Anyways.

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Uh, not a therapy sesh.

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Welcome in, everybody.

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Not a Christmas show.

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Yeah.

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Well, wait 'til the beer I drink.

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Not yet.

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Wait 'til the beer I drink.

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Spoiler alert.

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Flex doesn't even know.

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Uh, find us on the socials, craftbeerrepublic and @flexmebeer_ is in between.

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Lots to get to today.

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We got a ludicrous libation law, we got some booze news to get to, there's been

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some fallout

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from the Leiney closure, um, the Leiney family.

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Not thrilled about what's going on.

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We'll talk about that.

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And uh, much, much more.

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Oh no, I was classing it up.

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So I'll talk about me being classy in a second, but before we get to any of

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that, top listing

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city of last week, shout out to Fremont, California.

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Oh, hey-o.

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Fremont.

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Fremont, what up?

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I think that's, uh, Psycho Bear territory.

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Okay.

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Psycho Bear.

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Boy, he's terrifying.

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I am not convinced that he's not a murderer.

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Um, I'm going to just think he's a really nice guy.

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Right.

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I bet he's, I, Psycho Bear, I bet you're a really nice guy.

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That's what we're all hoping for.

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It's like, it's an ironic name.

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That's-

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There we go.

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Maybe that's it.

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Maybe that's the like creepy tone that you use when you call it.

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Everything's ironic.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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It's yeah.

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Everything's ironic.

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Maybe he's really Canadian.

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Oh, that would make you, yeah, I mean super Alanis Morissette-y.

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Yeah.

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It's like rain.

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Yeah.

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On your wedding day.

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On your wedding day.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I never understood the black fly in the Chardonnay cause I would just take the

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fly out and keep

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drinking the Chardonnay.

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Yeah.

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Alcohol kills germs.

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Yeah.

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That's, that's not ironic.

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My wife will often hand me a drink and go, there's a, there's a bug or a fly or

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whatever

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in here.

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And I go, yank with the old finger and hand it right back to her.

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Oh yeah.

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That happens.

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She just doesn't want to see it.

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Summer, summer patio beers for me.

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It's like you set the beer down on the table and you look over and there's

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already a fruit

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fly that drown from intoxication and you just poke it out and hey, beer.

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Which by the way, what a way to go.

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Oh, I couldn't ask her a better way to go.

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Little jealous.

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Oh man.

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Cause of death.

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Intoxication.

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I tell you what, people who ever, I don't know if I talked about it on the show

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, maybe

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like a year or so ago.

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If you ever have fruit fly issues in your house, just leave out like a little

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glass

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of beer and you'll, Oh yeah, you did talk about that.

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You'll get quite a few.

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I think you actually said a can, like an empty can.

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It's got like the drippings at the bottom cause then it's harder for them to

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fly.

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To get out.

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Right, right, right, right.

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Yeah.

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Especially you had like one of those fruited sour.

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I think that's what brought it up.

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It was like a very sugary fruit and sour.

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That's what started the fruit fly plot for tongue twister.

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The fruit fly problem is I had a couple of buddies over for a can share and a

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bunch of

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sours were had and I had a little recycle bin just inside the garage door that

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leads

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from the house to the garage and, uh, had that, uh, like 4,000 fruit flies

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later, uh,

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finally got rid of them.

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But I had to throw the recycle bin away too, because even though I scrub it out

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with like

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Dawn dish soap and everything, those fuckers just kept coming back.

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Crazy.

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Yeah.

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Bleach it next time.

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Blech.

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I hate using bleach.

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Oh, I love bleach.

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It's my favorite.

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I'm not even, I sound like a murderer.

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I was going to say, I thought you were non-murderer Greg.

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Well, I guess you'll find out.

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Oh boy.

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Uh, we have, uh, here goes Greg being classy.

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We have our wine de cancer, you know, it gets stained from the red wine.

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Who admits that they have one of these?

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This guy.

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Oh man.

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Classy.

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Anyways, it gets stained from the red wine.

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The only way to get it out, bleach it.

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Is there a little bleach in there?

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Shaky, shaky, shaky, shaky.

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That makes sense.

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It's all good.

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All good to go.

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Nice and clean.

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They got to rinse it for like, you know, an hour and a half straight so you don

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't kill

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yourself.

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But, but yeah, but then no, no classiest dude wants to have a stained wine to

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canter.

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What are you poor?

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No.

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How trashy.

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Oh, Hey, look at this guy got his wine to canter from Goodwill.

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It's still got the stains in it.

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What are you drinking?

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Two buck Chuck.

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All right.

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Loser.

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That's embarrassing.

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Not in this house, motherfucker.

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Only classy.

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Get out of here.

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Classiest.

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I swear.

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I don't even want to talk about now.

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I think you should talk about it anymore because I was, I was bringing it up so

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you could laugh

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at me before we get there.

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Let's find out what you're drinking.

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Oh boy.

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In a world where craft beer is king.

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A world where muscles are bigger than growlers.

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Only one tongue can guide us.

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One man.

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One drink.

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One tongue jobber in this world, we must find out what is flat springs from my

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stained beer

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glass.

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Oh, so unclassy bleaching that you, you would think I took a trip to

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Connecticut.

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I'm drinking another one out of North Haven.

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Bristol?

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No.

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The other city.

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North Haven.

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Um, fat orange cat brewing.

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Hmm.

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Uh, I think I've had a couple of their beers before in my life.

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Uh, this one is called one cat on the chess board.

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Uh, never, never played chess, but I do know that there are zero cat pieces.

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So somebody, you could have convinced me that there was, I wasn't going to try.

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I thought you were pretty classy.

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I figured you're like a chess whiz.

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Nope.

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Never played once in my life.

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Not to be confused with a cheese whiz.

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That I am.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Um, but so this is a new England style single hop IPA and it doesn't say

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anywhere on the

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can what hop they used.

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So thank goodness for untapped.

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One of the few times we've ever said that.

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Right.

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Whether you thoroughly enjoy the app or you use it sparingly.

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Thank you untapped for telling me.

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Thank you untapped.

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What I'm actually drinking.

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Um, so this single hop IPA is, uh, the Eldorado variant untapped.

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Thank you.

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Says, uh, this first of a new series.

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Okay.

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It's new.

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Maybe what you should do is put what hop you're using on the can for the second

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of the new

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series.

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Then that says, uh, new style, a single hop IPA series.

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And then it says, Oh, it does say in the description here.

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Okay.

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Uh, one cat on the chess board, a 7.2% Eldorado still doesn't say on the can

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says on untapped

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not on the can dumbasses I shouldn't call them dumbasses.

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I'm sure they're nice people.

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I bet fat orange cat people, I bet they're not even all fat.

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No.

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Some are probably just chunky.

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Yeah.

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You know, or what?

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What's a fat cat called?

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What's a fat cat?

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It's a, the chonk.

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Oh, it's a chonky cat.

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Which is where tricker brewing gets their chonk summers from, but that's

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neither here

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or there.

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Cause nobody's drinking tricker.

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Not a catch.

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You're not a cat show.

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Um, borderline tricker show cause their beer, any weasels.

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Um, so it's been about three years since I've had a single hop Eldorado beer.

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Um, Eldorado, I don't think I've ever had one.

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You don't normally find it single hopped.

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Um, usually beside like a Citra or a mosaic or then even on like the West coast

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side,

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you'll get like a Centennial or a cascade C's, right?

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Tons of C's.

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Um, so 7.2%.

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What really drew me in here, Greg, you know, I'm a cheapskate, big fat cheapsk

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ate here.

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Big fat orange cheapskate.

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Um, this is where the whole algorithm came from.

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You being a cheapskate.

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$13.99 for this four pack.

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Okay.

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So 7.2, $13.99 could be pretty high up on the new England.

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Let's get after it.

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Uh, craftbeer.com/algorithm, craftbeerrepublic.com/algorithm.

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On the eyes here, um, it's, it's hazy.

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It's cloudy.

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It's murky.

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Yeah.

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Yellowy color.

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I'm not as pale as I enjoy, but it's still got a nice color.

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It's got a nice head, some decent lacing so far.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You see that right there?

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It's no high life light.

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No, it's not.

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It's good.

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It's not.

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Um, on the old schnoz here, picking up, um, how many times have you ever

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smelled up like

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a Bosque pear, like a Brown pear?

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Uh, between zero and half.

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Okay.

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Cause this is what this smells like.

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I don't think I've ever had a Brown pear before.

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A little pear, you know, it's, it's Bosque pear.

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They're normal pears.

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It's like an everyday pear.

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You can get it at the supermarket.

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Oh, okay.

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I enjoy it.

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This smells wonderful.

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It's kind of fresh.

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So we'll, uh, get the old tongue jobber a little wet.

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Ooh.

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Yeah.

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That sounded violent.

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I'm sorry.

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Very, very violent.

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Three, two, one.

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Here we go.

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So aggressive.

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I think counting yourself in like this is a TV show.

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Okay.

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Super light bodied here.

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Wonderful body for a 7.2%.

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What really fascinates me about this beer.

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So I did look up Eldorado hop profile before drinking this to see what I maybe

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I'm smelling.

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If I can get any of these flavor notes out of the hops, watermelon, like candy

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flavor

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watermelon coming out of this Jolly Rancher stuff.

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Yes.

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Like it does.

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It doesn't hit.

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No, it's not.

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Cherry is, but it doesn't hit right away.

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It almost like you get a little peach, a little candy lemon, and then some

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candy watermelon.

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It's like a fruit punch.

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And then like a low to medium bitterness, but it's not like a lingering

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bitterness.

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It's just kind of like natural hop bitterness.

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It's kind of enjoyable.

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Like it almost brings everything together with the light body that touches

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sweet notes

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and then just even it out a little bit with the bitterness.

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Nice.

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So I think this is a fantastic beer for the price.

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Yeah.

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What'd you say?

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12.99?

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12.99.

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13.99.

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13.99.

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7.2%.

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Untapped has it at a 3.94, only a thousand and a half ratings.

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But one friend rated it a 4.2.

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I'd take it closer to the 4.2 than I would the 3.

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Oh, which if you listen to last week's episode, still kind of funny.

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It's like, oh, this is a great beer.

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B minus.

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I'm snobby to a point.

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I know.

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It's just, you know, it's Untapped's fault.

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Yeah.

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They built us, essentially.

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If you did it on the beer advocate scale, which is to a hundred, you would

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probably

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give it like a 92 or something, you know, like an A minus range or maybe even a

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solid

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A.

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Yeah.

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That's good.

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I just had another sip of this.

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This is real good.

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Yeah.

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This is a good beer.

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Really good beer.

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Yeah.

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Good stuff.

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Well, maybe we'll have a beer outside of Connecticut next time.

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Maybe.

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But who knew Connecticut, right?

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So here's the funny thing.

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I'm going to do shit out of order.

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I swear to everybody, two weeks in a row now, Flex has had Connecticut beers.

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This was not planned in any way.

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I never know what Flex is drinking before the show start.

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Sometimes I don't even tell him that I even bought beer yet.

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Right.

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Sometimes I don't even know if he has beer in his house and we start recording

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and he

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holds up a beer.

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I'm like, oh, thank God.

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He's got a beer.

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This is all accurate.

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Yeah.

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I pulled a ludicrous libation law from Connecticut.

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That's wild.

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Totally random, had nothing to do with your beers.

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I swear to God.

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Let's see.

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Let's just do it now.

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Yeah.

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Let's see what this is.

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I'm intrigued.

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So in Connecticut, state law says that town records cannot be stored where

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alcohol is

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sold.

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That sounds pretty normal.

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Why did that need to become a law?

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Right.

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Like that's just kind of like common sense.

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Right.

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It's like going down to the local pub and like, hey, I got some files for you.

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Well, maybe way back in the day, maybe I have to assume this is a prohibition

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era law.

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I would assume so.

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Yeah.

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Connecticut general statutes 3097 states that town and probate records must not

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be kept

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in any place where alcohol, our alcoholic liquor is sold.

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The statute aims to maintain the integrity and security of official records by

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ensuring

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they are stored in environments free from the potential risks associated with

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alcohol

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sales venues.

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That must be what it was.

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Had to be prohibition.

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Yeah.

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Cause that's just common sense.

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It's weird as fuck.

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But I guess when you only have two towns in your state.

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Yeah.

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Bristol.

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Maybe.

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North Haven.

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Yeah.

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Maybe you run out of place to store shit.

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Although I have heard unpopular opinion, Connecticut is supposed to have some

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of the best pizza

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in the nation.

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Oh, really?

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Yes.

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I've not heard that.

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I've got a buddy out there, Zach, he lives in Connecticut and he swears by the

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pizza

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in Connecticut.

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That's not where I expected that going.

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Supposed to.

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Yeah.

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It's supposed to trump New York style pizza and I mean, deep dishes, trash show

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Don't even put Chicago out there.

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There's deep.

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That's not a pizza.

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That's a casserole.

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It's trash.

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It doesn't matter what it is.

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Casserole.

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It's a trash role.

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Sorry, Chicago.

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I've never had a legitimate, like, like from Chicago, you know, I've had

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Chicago style,

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whatever out here.

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And yeah, I don't, I don't need it in my life.

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That's a casserole.

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It don't matter if you have it in Chicago or outside of Chicago.

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It's still trash.

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It's trash.

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Yeah.

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Hey Mel, beer girl Mel, um, what say you to the New York versus Connecticut

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comparison

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there?

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In fact.

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Yeah.

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Cause Mel, so Mel knows Zach too.

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I don't even want Mel's opinion.

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I want Lou's opinion.

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I want fucking street meets to tell us what he thinks.

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I feel like Lou don't got an opinion if, if he can eat it, it's good.

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Okay.

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You might be right there.

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I just feel like he eats everything.

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So he's for those who don't know, Lou is Mel's husband.

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Uh, I just feel like he would have the no, because he's probably eaten both a

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lot.

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But uh, somebody from New York and or Connecticut.

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Let us know.

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Yeah.

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Lou eats cold pork chops right out of the fridge, rips the tupperware lid off,

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just

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starts gnawing on cold pork chops and which I'm not even going to be mad about.

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I respect the hell out of that.

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Dude, me too.

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This fucker like ran a marathon with chicken in hand.

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Mel sent us the videos.

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I love when Mel sends us Lou videos cause it's just like him running with food

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in his

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hand.

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Was that the New York marathon they did or something?

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I can't remember.

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Something like that.

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It was, it was a few weeks ago at this point at least.

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Uh, but yeah, it's just like, Hey, look at Lou.

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It's just him eating as he's running.

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Stop as he does.

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Get a couple slices of pizza, right?

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Get a hot dog.

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Yeah.

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Oh, I would throw up so hard.

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Oh yeah.

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I don't know how he does it.

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Or I would sit down and eat and I would just never get back up.

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Or that.

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Yeah.

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But I mean to try and keep moving or even to stop, eat and then keep moving.

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Yeah.

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That sounds terrible.

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Yeah.

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It sounds so bad.

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What a man.

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He is a machine.

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He's not a man.

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He's a machine.

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You're right.

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He will take over the world.

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The best part is too with that marathon, like the last one he did as well, zero

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training,

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just wakes up, runs 26 point however many, four miles, two, 13.1 and 26.2, 26.2

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miles.

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And then that just, that's his day.

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And then he sleeps, sleeps for about 14 hours after that.

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And then he's good to go.

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I've ran two half marathons in my life.

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The first one I trained pretty extensively for, and I did much better than I

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expected.

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I was very proud of myself.

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I was proud of you.

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Well, thank you.

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The second one, life got in the way, did little to no training for it, went and

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ran it, blew

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out my knee in the second mile.

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Come on.

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And then my bitch of a girlfriend at the time was like, you can't quit now

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because if you

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don't keep a certain time, they come and pick you up in a golf cart, like a

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medical golf

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cart.

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Oh, I was like, Oh, I'm just gonna get picked up.

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You know, you keep running.

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You're not injured.

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I'm injured.

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It's like, no, you can't quit now.

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You can't be a bitch about it.

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I was like, so my dumb ass walked 11 miles on a blown out knee.

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Oh, so much pain and definitely did permanent damage.

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Maybe you're the machine.

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You know what?

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Maybe.

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But I still would've thrown up if I'd eaten a corn dog along the way.

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Greg the machine.

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I like that.

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Yeah.

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It's got a good ring to it.

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Coming out to the ring.

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Weighing in at way too much, much, much.

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Boo.

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Anywho, lose the real machine around here.

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Love that guy.

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Love you, Lou.

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Yeah.

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Love you, Lou.

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And all your caloric intakes that doesn't appear to affect you in any way,

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shape, or

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form.

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No, zero.

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Zero.

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Zero.

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Zero.

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Zero.

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Zero.

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Zero.

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A few weeks ago, I was on the tap room podcast with our homie, Mike.

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And one of the things we talked about on there was something we've talked on

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here about on

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here recently, which is Trader Joe's has become like my bottle shop because you

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can go crack

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off singles.

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Right.

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I've gotten so many comments about people not knowing that that was a thing.

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Our friends over at Beer Bikini messaged me after the tap room one came out,

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said, listen

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to your episode on the tap room podcast.

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Literally just discovered the Trader Joe's singles trick.

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Two weeks ago when we visited Portland and someone we knew told us, I was like,

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nah,

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no way.

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So we all went to TJ's and sure enough, all these six packs had missing cans.

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We broke off a few and took them to check out.

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This is valuable info that no one talks about.

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LOL.

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Yes.

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I said, this shit is important.

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It's important.

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Everybody.

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If you've got a Trader Joe's near you, you can crack open the four and six

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packs.

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Take one, take two, whatever you want.

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They're priced to be sold individually.

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I am mind blown because I must've zoned out when you talked about that.

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I didn't know that was a thing.

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We also brought it up on the show.

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We also don't Trader Joe's frequently.

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Yeah.

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I know that, uh, you know, in California, Trader Joe's is much more prevalent

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than other

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places.

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Um, it seems like we got two of them over here.

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Okay.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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By the way, I like there's some in Florida now cause the wife's sister lives

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out in Florida

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and all that kind of stuff, but crack them, crack them off.

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They're met.

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They're, they're priced individually.

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I do all the time.

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The beer I'm drinking tonight is Trader Joe's knocked off a couple singles.

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What you got?

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Should I talk about it?

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Let's just get into it.

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It's early, but fuck it.

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You look thirsty and I want you to get into this.

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You know what?

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I'm thirsty and I want to get into this calls to the bullpen for beer.

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Well, you said it at the top of the show.

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Once again, I don't know what flex is drinking.

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Flex never knows what I'm drinking.

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It's always a surprise.

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Big surprise.

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Rarely, rarely we will coordinate a beer if there's like some weird theme going

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on or

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something or a holiday or yeah, exactly.

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This is definitely not one of those times.

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Well, flex said something about Christmas beers, ho, ho, ho everybody, because

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I am

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drinking celebration, fresh hop, IPA from Sierra, Nevada, get it.

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And you cannot have the holidays if you've not had a celebration.

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I saw this at TJ's a week or two, a couple of weeks ago, we were talking about

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with Boris.

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How is like Boris and I's favorite Christmas beer.

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I was just going to say, we talked about that with Boris.

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100%.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Holiday season is here.

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When I saw it, I was like, Oh, this is earlier.

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Normally it's like end of November when I see them hitting the shelves and this

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felt

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a little early.

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So I grabbed it.

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Very excited to usher in the holiday season a little early.

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So Sierra, Nevada, fresh hop, IPA, the 2024 edition 6.6, excuse me, 6.8%, 65 IB

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Us.

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They say freshly picked hops rushed from the farm to brewery.

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Still celebration, IPA with a powerful citrus and pine flavor.

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When you're on the slopes with your friend or building a backyard campfire for

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your fam,

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you need a beer as fresh as fallen snow.

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Pure hops balanced with rich caramel malt.

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Make this celebration in every sip.

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And I laugh so hard.

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We talk about ratings a lot the last couple of weeks, 373, oh man, sorry, no

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shit.

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I was going to say 374.

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Were you?

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Okay.

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Okay.

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373 out of 430,000 reviews.

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Now I don't know if this is every year's combined or 430,000 people have

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already had it this

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year.

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No, it's got to be.

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It doesn't say.

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Everything combined.

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Yeah.

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This is, I mean, this is truly like the beer nerd slash like brewers beer.

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It's not for your casual beer fan.

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It's not for your Hayes bro.

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This is old school.

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This is the loaf of bread that I generally don't like in a beer, but Sierra

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Nevada figures

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out kind of how to balance it and make it not as thick on the old schnauz.

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I mean, it smells like a hoppy loaf of bread.

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It's super piney.

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It's multi.

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I mean, you can see the, look at this color.

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This is fucking caramel.

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It is malt.

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Yeah.

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This is, this is caramel malt to the extreme tongue jabber time.

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This I will say feels, and obviously it's been a year since I've had one a

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little less

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bitter than previous years.

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Look, still dank, still old school, still bitter.

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But in previous years, I feel like it's fucking bitter.

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This one a little, maybe slightly more balanced.

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Definitely get the pine, definitely get the citrus.

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It's always all old school hops, a multi cereal from the, the backbone and from

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the back from

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the malts.

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So, you know, it's just that old school IPA with fresh hops.

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If you don't like an old school West coast IPA, you're going to fucking hate

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this guaranteed.

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Yeah.

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Not for, not like you said, not for your casual drinker, not for the casual Hay

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es bro.

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Or anybody like that.

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You're a, you're pounding some, uh, what do we say from Drecker earlier?

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Chunks.

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Chunks.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Chunks in front from Drecker.

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This is not going to be your jam.

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You like some teeth shattering bitterness.

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Here it is, everybody.

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It's fresh.

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It's citrusy.

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It's piney and it's a liquid meal in a glass.

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Normally not my jam, but when Sierra Nevada drops this, I got to get it.

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Well, at least you don't have to eat dinner now.

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Yeah.

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I'll, uh, I'll save the cows for my beer.

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Um, all right, the one thing I was going to mention and flex kind of

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accidentally alluded

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to it.

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Damn it.

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I I'm classy as fuck.

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As we've talked about many times, I feel like people just know this by now they

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got, I mean,

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I have multiple, somebody walks up to you and be like, Hey, do you have a wine

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membership?

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And you're like one, yeah, uh, one membership.

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I don't, I'm offended.

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I don't know.

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In fact, at that point, Wayne's world, that one, uh, what do you mean?

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Classy as fuck.

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Multiple ships.

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In fact, when they accused me of having a membership, I pull a glove out of my

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pocket

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and slap it with them and tell them, Oh man, that's how classy I am.

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You are topped here.

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We had a pickup party for one of our members.

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You have servants last week.

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No, that's, that's the next tier.

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I'm sorry.

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Get a Butler.

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Yeah.

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Get a Butler.

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I think that's once I hit 10 memberships.

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Okay.

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I'm getting my tears mixed up.

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That's all it is.

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I'm sorry.

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That's my fault.

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Yeah.

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That's my unclassy fault.

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Yeah.

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Here's what I'll say.

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One of the nice things about most wine membership is they have pickup parties.

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Some are great.

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Some are not so great.

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I had a great one last week.

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Went to one of our, they, they did it at one of our favorite local restaurants.

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Is that like a car key party?

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I don't know.

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It's a car key party.

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Everybody puts their keys in a bowl.

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Yeah.

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It was a swinger party.

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I wish.

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Oh, actually, no, I don't.

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It was mostly old white people.

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Yeah.

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Probably not.

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Yeah.

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Probably no chicks under the age of 40.

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So no, not, I mean, look, I mean, chicks around 40 are just fine.

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I'm, I'm married.

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You're married to one.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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But, uh, you know, when they're in their sixties, uh, not so much anyways, and

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one of our local

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favorite restaurants called cork dork.

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It's a horrible name for a restaurant.

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Amazing food.

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Sounds classy.

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Yeah.

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They rented out the place and had like small bites and all, all the wine I

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could fucking

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put down.

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Cause we've kind of made friends with the winemakers and it's just, it was a

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good time, man.

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I just felt classy, ate some good food, drink some good wine.

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I just wanted to bring it out because I knew flex would laugh at me cause I'm

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so fucking

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classy with my wine.

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I just like how you, how you speak of it.

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It's like, uh, it's a different tone, you know, like I have another one coming

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up next

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week.

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Your upper echelon.

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You know, it's like, it's like, I just sit back and listen, listen to your, uh,

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my classy

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ness.

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Your classiness.

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Yeah.

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I totally forgot until just this second as we're talking about the story next

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weekend,

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we have another one pickup party coming up.

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This one's one of my favorites.

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The owner of the winery, they don't do the pickup party like at the winery, at

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the tasting

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room.

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They do it at her house.

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Oh man.

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She lives, she lives in Malibu overlooking the ocean.

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Rough life.

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Not a bad view.

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Yeah.

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What's that?

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I said rough life.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Super rough.

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Overlooking the ocean.

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So it's, once again, she pours for days.

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She's as good as you want.

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She loves to have fun.

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Loves to party.

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Loves to open wine for people and always has, here we go flex a taco person.

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Oh, there it is.

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Yeah.

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She's got her taco person.

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Because everyone in California has a taco guy.

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Yeah.

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She's got hers.

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Who is not the same one I use.

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Everyone's got their own.

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Hers is really good, but really expensive.

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They also do fresh churros at the end of the day.

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I'm talking heating up oil, dropping them in the fucking grease and then

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rolling them

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in cinnamon and sugar.

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It is amazing.

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It don't get better than that.

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No.

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So you get fresh tacos and then after you get a little drunk, you get fresh ch

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urros.

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Oh man.

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I'm jealous.

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So I am very much looking forward to that one too.

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I totally forgot that.

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How do I get classy?

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Dude, come on out.

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I'll take you to all our classy shit.

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I don't think I'm allowed.

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I'm not allowed.

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We won't tell them you're Midwest and we'll just say, hey, look, he's from

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around here.

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He calls it Modelo, not Modelo.

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I just said that to somebody the other day.

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How do I say it?

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I just say Modelo.

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That's how I say it.

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Like Modelo.

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Modelo.

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That's what I say.

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Yeah.

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So you try to be good, but you go past being good into like comically good.

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Modelo.

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Modelo.

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Modelo.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's, uh, it's the Midwest in me.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I believe you could class it up.

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I believe in you.

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Come on out.

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Go to a wine pick up party with us.

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Have some tacos and churros.

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I could probably look classy, but the second I opened my mouth, they're going

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to know.

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Hey hoser.

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Yeah.

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You're going to get that.

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That's more Canadian.

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You're going to get the stink eye.

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Who brought this guy?

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Brought this guy?

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If he was on Beer Advocate, he'd be a 68.

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He's an F. He's a two and a half on untapped tops.

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Longer.

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Never heard of her.

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If they start to turn on you, just, you know, take your shirt off.

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Yeah.

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I can do that.

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I know how to do that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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It'll distract them.

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No problem.

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They got buff guys in Malibu though.

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Yeah, but they don't got flex buff guys.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I'll take that.

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Yeah.

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I don't got a tight whiteys.

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I got blueys.

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Tidy blackies.

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There you go.

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Makes it look bigger.

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Anyways.

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We should do news before we really dig a hole.

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Not a tidy blackie show.

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Nope.

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Not yet at least.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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I'm going to go with the tighties.

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Including the sale of the brewery, its taproom, and intellectual property, the

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brewery did

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not name the expected buyer, which is weird.

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Founder and CEO, Henry Schwartz, said in an announcement, "We've poured our

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heart and

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souls into the brewery and our community, but reached a point where we could no

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longer

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operate as a standalone organization.

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When the opportunity came up to sell the brewery, we decided to consider it to

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keep our brand

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around at wholesale and keep as many of our staff members as possible employed

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in our

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taprooms.

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We're in the midst of working on the deal now and there will be changes, but

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they're

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not fully known yet.

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The mob craft you know and love today won't exist in its entirety after this

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process,

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but some aspects will.

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And between now and our last day of official mob craft operations, we aim to

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celebrate

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our existence and we've all achieved over a few pints."

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Is this the brewery that you designed a beer for?

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Well, yeah, I mean, I just had an idea and they voted on it.

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Right, right, right.

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You're paying us all five bucks to vote on it every day.

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That's what I did.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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I'm broke now.

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Still recouping like six years later.

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Mob craft, they're like a scale of one to 10.

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They're like a five.

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Oh, okay.

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Like they're a pretty average brewery.

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Two and a half on untapped, got it.

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Really fun spot.

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They had some decent food, good pizzas that they did out of the kitchen, but

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the beer

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wasn't great.

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It was fun.

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Some of the stuff they did was the ideas were fun, but not great stuff.

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They could never brew an IPA to save their life.

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Oh really?

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That's the easiest.

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Which, yeah, I mean, it's shocking.

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They were...

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You just fuck up a beer and add a bunch of hops.

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They were big on sour ales, like footer aged sour ales and some decent barrel

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aged stuff,

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but otherwise nothing mind blowing.

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I think the big thing for them that they failed on was trying to expand.

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They had a tap room in Denver.

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I don't think it lasted six months.

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Oh, geez.

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They have one currently in Woodstock, Illinois, and they tried to get one in a

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town that's

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like 15 miles southwest of where I live, and they bought this, I think it was

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an old fire

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station or police station, and they were supposed to revamp it out and make it

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a whole brewing

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and tap room, and I think that completely fell under, so I think it was just

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bad usage

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of money, capital.

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Everything went under, and they just couldn't get out of it.

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That's too bad.

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I mean, we talked about it before.

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Oh, before I get too far away, you said something, and I didn't want to cut you

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off, but...

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It's a forager.

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Nailed it.

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All that for that.

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Thanks.

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It was worth it.

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That was worth it.

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Yeah.

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Totally worth it.

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I mean, we've talked about this in the past, it seems like there's a bit of a

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reckoning

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going on.

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Like, if you're not making great beer, you're not staying open, and we've hit

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that saturation

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point in craft beer.

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Yep.

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I can't stress that enough, that if you're not making good product, people are

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going

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to find who's making it and stick with them.

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Yeah.

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It was a topic of conversation amongst the local beer crew here, is that the

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Mobcraft

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news came up, I was one of the forefront that said, "Hey, look, they don't do

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great beer."

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Is it a fun spot to hit up every now and then, great location, 100%, but if

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they don't put

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out great product on a consistent basis, I'm not going to waste my money.

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It's just what it is.

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Yeah.

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I mean, there's great breweries that aren't staying open, so why should your

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mediocre

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breweries stay open?

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You got to keep it up.

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Right.

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It's sad, but it's...

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Yeah.

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And you never want people to lose jobs and that kind of thing.

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Ever.

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Hopefully.

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Never, ever.

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Hopefully whoever can buy them turns things around, makes it a little better,

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that kind

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of thing.

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Even more fun if they keep the whole boating aspect.

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Yeah, the crowdsource concept, which was a lot of fun.

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It's a fun concept, still.

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Anheuser-Busch, speaking of closing, is shuttering the Wicked Weed Functorium,

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and that's in

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Nashville.

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The functorium has been closed since September 27th in the wake of Hurricane

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Helene and a

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water outage in the city.

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Wicked Weed, Cobb and O'Reilly.

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Oh, water outage.

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Yeah.

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Ever since the hurricane, they've just not had water, or I mean, by now, maybe

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some people

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have water, but I've heard it's taking a super long time to get water going.

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Interesting.

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Scary.

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In the surrounding area.

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I mean, talk about just basic shit.

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I know someone who lives outside of Asheville who did not lose their house, but

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was affected

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by the water outage and stuff, and they're having to go fill jugs with non-pot

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able water

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just so they can flush their toilet.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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So you get these gallon jugs, fill up the top tank, do your business, and then

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you can

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flush it because you filled up the top tank.

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That's horrible.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then having to take baths in the non-potable water and cold baths and stuff

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So I mean, it's basic human shit that no one really thinks is a big deal until

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it's gone.

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Even in my hood where the fires were, certain areas were not even under a boil

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advisory.

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They're under a don't fucking use the water advisory.

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Man.

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Which is crazy.

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Yeah.

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That is crazy.

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What is this?

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Pioneer times?

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I know.

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I know.

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I know.

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I know.

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I know.

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Welcome everybody.

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Lewis and Clark trying to find the Pacific.

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Right.

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Man, this is... where are we?

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Bam.

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Wicked Weed co-founder Ryan Guthe laid off the majority of its service industry

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employees

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during November 1st staff meeting as per Citizen Times.

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That amounted to about 40 employees according to the outlet.

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An AB spokesperson told Brewbound that following the impact of the hurricane, K

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ultura and Funkatorium

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remain closed at this time.

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We'll keep you posted with updates and reopening plans for both locations as

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Asheville returns

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to normal normalcy.

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The closings are not intended to be permanent, the spokesperson said.

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So fingers crossed, we'll see.

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So it's a temporary lay?

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It just says indefinite because they have no clue.

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Other Brewers Association has added a new beer style to their guidelines.

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Intriguing.

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Uh-huh.

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Uh-huh.

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Have you already peeked ahead?

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Oh, I don't peek ahead.

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I didn't think so.

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No.

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It's just intriguing what a new beer style would be.

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Well, I've seen this popping up more and more, at least out here, this style,

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so it doesn't

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surprise me.

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Are you going to say West Coast Pilsner?

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Close, but God damn do I love a West Coast Pilsner.

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It's an Italian style Pilsner.

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Okay.

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This is now part of the guidelines.

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You can enter it as a category, all that stuff.

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So is that a certain hops you need for an Italian Pilsner, certain malts?

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What is the- Funny you should ask, what is the guidelines?

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Yes, guidelines.

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That's the word I was looking for, guidelines.

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Yeah.

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Color, straw to gold, clarity, appearance should be clear, chill haze should

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not be

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present, perceived malt aroma and flavor, a malty sweet aroma and flavor should

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be

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present at low levels, light biscuity attributes may be present, perceived hop

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aroma and flavor,

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hop aroma and flavor is pronounced and aromatic, derived from late hopping and

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dry hopping

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with noble type hops, floral, herbal, peppery, or other attributes may be

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present, bitterness

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medium to high, fermentation characteristics, fruity ester and DMS should not

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be present.

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These are well attenuated beers.

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The body should be medium low to medium.

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Additional notes, the head should be dense, pure white, and persistent.

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Hop character is assertive, crisp, and aromatic.

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They have gravity guidelines as well.

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Original gravity should be in the 1044 to 1052 range, where your final gravity

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should

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be around 1006 to 1013, 1013 feels high.

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ABV should be 3.6 to 4.2, bitterness, IBUs should be 25 to 50, 50 feels high

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for this

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category, but okay.

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And then for those real nerds out there, the SRM should be three to four, which

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is a really

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light beer.

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Okay.

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So noble hops are those like...

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Like German hops.

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German hops.

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Okay.

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That's what I was going to say.

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Yeah.

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Lighter, you know, not the Chinook, the Cascade, none of that shit.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Lighter hops.

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So Italian Pilsner brewed with German hops, right?

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I mean, they don't have to be German, but...

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I'm fucking with you.

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Yeah.

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Come on.

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Want to end it on a list?

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Yeah, because I fucking love lists.

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I feel like it's been so long.

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It's been a while.

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I'm going to say weeks.

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Easily.

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Maybe months.

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If not months, yeah.

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How about the price of a beer at every NBA stadium slash arena?

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I don't even know the name of most NBA arenas.

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They don't actually tell you the name of the arena.

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They just say the name of the team.

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Oh.

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You want to start at...

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Just read what's in front of me.

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I'm going to say a Lakers, number one.

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All right.

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So do you want to start at cheapest or most expensive?

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Cheapest, because I like that.

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All right.

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Oklahoma City Thunder.

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Man, I was going to say Utah.

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Yeah.

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Not at all.

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Utah's pretty high up there.

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Damn.

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So number 30, the Thunder, Hawks, 756, Pacers, 810, Raptors, 917 a beer, Wiz

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ards, 959, Grizzlies,

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97, 76ers, 1056.

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Now we're breaking those double digits.

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The Pistons, 1129, the Spurs, 1185, Houston Rockets, 1189, the Magic, 1199, as

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well as

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the Timberwolves and the Cavaliers, Trailblazers, 1241, Charlotte Hornets, 1249

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, Miami Heat

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at number 15, 1275, here we go, halfway.

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Number 14, the Bucs of Milwaukee.

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Yeah.

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Shit's expensive.

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$13 even.

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Yeah.

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For a beer.

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I get about a beer every time I go to a game.

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It's all you can afford.

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Nailed it.

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I made myself laugh.

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I'm a cheapskate.

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The Kings, Sacramento Kings, also at 13 bucks.

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The Pelicans, 1343, the Mavs at 1355.

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Here's the top 10.

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Let's go.

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Utah Jazz, 14 bucks.

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Wow.

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For a 3% beer, that's fucked up.

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Number nine, Clippers, 1439, clipping the wallet.

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Now I think this is before the Clippers moved because they're tied with the L

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akers at also

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1439.

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Okay.

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The Clippers have their own spot now on Arena as of this season.

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Yeah, it's supposed to be really nice.

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I know somebody who went and saw a concert there before the season started and

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said it

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was really nice.

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Yeah.

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I heard there, and there's enough bathrooms, man.

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What was it?

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What's that guy's name?

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Steve...

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Balmer.

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Balmer.

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So he had a lot to do with the stadium design itself.

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Yeah.

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There's tons of bathrooms.

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They're all clean.

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And there's enough bathrooms that you can, it's like the wait time is like two

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minutes

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from seat to bathroom.

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Oh, I haven't heard that.

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Nice.

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Yeah.

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He said it was great.

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And like their whole facial recognition technology was super cool.

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You don't have to have a ticket.

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Anything like that.

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Oh, I didn't know that.

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Oh yeah.

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You like do this whole setup on the app where you like, you take a picture of

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yourself and

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it's like some of the Amazon fresh stores.

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You just walk in, it recognizes you and they let you in.

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Oh yeah.

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That we have here in Milwaukee.

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Oh, do you?

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Yeah.

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It's something...

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I've never seen that before.

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Yeah.

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I forgot what you have to either give them your card or something about your

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wrist or

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something.

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Oh, this is facial recognition.

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This is you just walk in and it recognizes you and boop you're in.

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You grab a can and it won't charge you until you crack it.

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This isn't for food sales.

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I've seen that before.

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This is not for food sales.

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This is for ticket entry.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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Like as you walk in the door, it just recognizes you and lets you in.

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That's fucked up.

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Yeah.

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It's a little creepy honestly.

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Yeah.

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That's...

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Yeah.

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You're everywhere.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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The Phoenix Suns at $14.99.

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Number six, the Nets at $15.47.

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Number five, the Bulls at $15.75.

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Number four, the New York Knickerbockers $16.11.

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Number three, Golden State Warriors $17 a lot.

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Yeah.

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Top two.

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Number two, Los Nuggets $17.32, which is hilarious because how far does that

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beer have to travel

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from down the street?

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Not very.

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That's my guess.

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And the number one most expensive beer in all of basketball.

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Did you say Boston yet?

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And boy, can they suck a big fat dick?

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That's the Boston Celtics, everybody.

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Oh, there it is.

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At over 20 bucks a beer.

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That's messed up.

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20, 32.

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They are $3 more than the number two spot.

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That is messed up.

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Yeah.

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How did they get away with that?

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What a shitty town.

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I don't know.

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What a shitty, shitty sports town.

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Fuck you, Boston.

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Can't stand them.

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I don't know.

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Unless you live in the area, you hate them.

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Yeah.

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It's kind of like the Yankees.

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Yeah.

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I don't enjoy them either.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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I hate the Yankees.

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I also hate the Dodgers.

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Oh, fuck you.

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But you hated the Yankees more, right?

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Yeah.

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Like even just like 1% more because they had, it could be because they had a

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bigger payroll.

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I don't care why.

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As long as you hate them slightly more.

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For you?

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Oh, fuck.

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Man, $20 for a beer at a sporting event.

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And you know, that's gotta be shitty beer.

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It's not like 20 bucks for IPA or something.

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I'm going home sober.

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Yeah.

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Or I'm walking in loaded.

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You're right.

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Yeah.

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That's, that's what, I don't know if it's still there.

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I'm not sure if I've talked about this on the show.

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But a Staples Center, what the fuck they call it now, down the street from Stap

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les, if you

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take the Metro, which nobody in LA takes, and you get off like one stop before

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the Staples

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Center stop, I think it's called like the 7th Street Metro Center or something.

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There's a hotel across the street from that station.

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You go up and then across the street, there's a hotel.

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Underneath the hotel is like this little shopping, we'll call it a mall for

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lack of a better

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term.

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And at the very back of it is a Carl's Jr.

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And at that Carl's Jr., it must've been some other restaurant in the past

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because they

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have three taps.

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It's like the world's shittiest beer.

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It's like Bud Light, Mikultra, Coors Light, or something like that.

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The last time I was there, which was pre-COVID, it was still only like $8 a pit

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cher.

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A pitcher?

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A pitcher.

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And I'm not talking like those little pretend pitchers.

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I'm talking the legitimate pitcher.

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Wait.

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Is this California we're talking about?

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This is California.

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I found out about it because I used to work in downtown LA a long, long time

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ago doing

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a computer job.

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My buddy's like, "Hey, you want to go to Carl's Jr. for beer?"

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And I was like, "What?

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Carl's Jr. for beer?"

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So then clearly taking over someone's liquor license or beer license, whatever.

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I don't even know if it's still there.

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In fact, I should go down there and find out if it's still there because $8 for

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a pitcher.

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That's a steal.

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So get yourself a shitty burger and fries from Carl's Jr.

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Get each person a pitcher because at that price you can fucking get your own.

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Yeah.

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Well, I'm going to buy a round of pitchers.

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Exactly.

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I'm a huge game.

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You can have two pitchers.

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And that's such a good price.

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I'm buying a round of pitchers.

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Right.

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Have a couple pitchers, get loaded before the game starts.

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You walk down, it's like, I don't know, three quarters of a mile or something

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like that

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to Staples Center.

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Boom.

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You don't need to buy any beers.

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Or maybe you buy like one beer at halftime to keep the buzz going.

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No big deal.

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I like it.

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Yeah.

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If anybody's been to Staples Center lately and knows my secret, please let me

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know if

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that place still exists because boy, was that a magical tree underground Carl's

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Jr.

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Sounds like you fucking high one day just wandered around and that's what your

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memory

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recollects.

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I mean, I would have never known had somebody not been like, Hey, you want to

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go for burgers

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and beer at Carl's Jr.

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I was like, what?

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It was great.

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And when I found out about it, was at a very low time in my life.

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I had just like broken up with a long-term girlfriend.

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I was working down there.

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And so my buddy who I worked with like every day at lunch was like burgers and

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beer.

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Like fuck.

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Yeah, man.

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Burgers and beer for lunch every day.

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We were not very productive after like two o'clock.

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You deserved it though.

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I did.

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I felt better.

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But yeah, it's good times.

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Hey Greg, how low are you right now?

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Well, not lower than a Carl's Jr in a basement.

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Let's fucking go.

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Never got that low.

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Love it.

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Oh yeah.

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Good times.

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I did end up staying in that hotel years after that job.

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I stayed at that hotel one time for work and I went out there.

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It was, I mean, this is all pre COVID, but it's like still there.

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It's got a couple of pictures.

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I hope so.

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I really, truly hope so.

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Boy, was that a hidden gem?

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Probably hidden gem.

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Anyways.

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All right.

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Let's get the fuck out of here.

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I got more beers to drink.

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I don't want to be here anymore.

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Yeah.

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Tired of looking at my face.

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I got a Carl's Jr to get to.

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I'm going to say hello to Vanessa.

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Hi Vanessa.

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Hello.

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Find us on the socials @CraftBeerRepublic, @FlexMeABeer, underscores in between

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, CraftBeerRepublic.com/algorithm.

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If you want to do the old algorithm.

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It's fun.

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Yeah.

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It's a good time.

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805-538-beer, 2337.

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I think that's mostly everything.

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Hope everyone out there staying very well hydrated and on that note, good night

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everybody.

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- Yay.