Lisa Marie Rankin:

Hello, and welcome beautiful souls. So for this week's episode, I am thrilled to be speaking with Harmony Robinson Stagg who is an Ayurvedic practitioner, and she specializes in women's health. Also, has a lot with the divine feminine and goddesses and even more. You're also maybe, Harmoni, you could tell a little bit about you because I know you're also a nurse and a doctor I think doctor a doctor as well too. So can you just share a little bit about your very robust history?

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah, absolutely. So I am, yes, I'm a registered nurse and have been for 20 odd years now. I also practice in the holistic health realm as an Ayurvedic practitioner. I've been on women's health practitioner and doctor of Chinese medicine and acupuncture. So I really combine the three sciences together to get the best results for my clients and also for my students. Cause I run an Iovator school, which is the Ayurveda Alchemist Academy, where we certify women to become Ayurveda holistic health coaches.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

That's fantastic. Yeah. I love how you just have such a breadth of wisdom and that you can pull from. That's definitely one of the things that I wanted to talk to you about today. Many of the women in my community, I would say, are 40 plus. Many are going through perimenopause, and many are beyond it. But this topic comes up quite a bit, and there does seem to be a difference between Ayurveda's view in treatment of the symptoms and what we know in more of a Western allopathic culture. So I'm super excited since you are so versed in both of these to really start to get your opinion.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

One of the first questions I would like to ask is how does Ayurveda view menopause? Because it wasn't in the original Ayurvedic text compared to what it is that we know now.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah. Absolutely. As opposed to allopathic medicine, Ayurveda is really good at not just looking at signs and symptoms saying this is a disease or this is what you have. Not that menopause is a disease. I wanna put that out there. It is very, very natural occurrence of life and every women will go through it. So I think that the allopathic medical side can sometimes see it or as a syndrome or a disease when it really is not. And they know that too.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

That's the way that it's portrayed to the woman that's going through it. So I have data doesn't discuss it as such, but it looks at the individual constitution and what the transition of the doses and the doshic imbalance, the transition of what maybe your victory is. So you're imbalanced state through that period of transition and time. And we know that there there is physiological changes happening in our body because our hormones are shifting. Our hormones are changing. And that, again, as we know, our internal environment will change our dosha imbalance from our natural constitution. So it really looks at balancing our individual constitution through this process. And we also look at, from an Ayurvedic perspective, we're moving from more of a pitter phase of life.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

So we're ovulate ovulating, hormonal. We're in that building asset stage of our life, that drive, and we're transitioning to a VARTA phase of life. Within our modern landscape, this is very difficult for some women to accept. And so we get exacerbated symptoms of those, like, hot flashes because we have this so much this trap Peter in us. We're not allow allowing ourselves to release that Peter energy. We're still in the mode of go, go, go work, strive, achieve, and we're not transitioning into slowing down, allowing ourselves to be more nurtured. There's also this social stigma of it, not embarrassment, but feeling irrelevant. We're moving into who are we now? We're menopausal women.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

That sounds like, oh, that just means we're aging and that sort of That sounds like, oh, that just means we're aging and that's sort of frowned upon more so in our social settings in the modern world. But from an Ayurvedic perspective, it's actually stepping into your higher wisdom, your higher self. It's a really beautiful transition into the wisdom of womanhood and the ultimate beautiful goddess who can share their wisdom, slow down, and really step into who they've always known they are without all of those other things that come through the building phase, the Peter phase of life holding them there if we allow that transition to happen naturally.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Oh, thank you so much. There's so much that I want to dive in there. So much beautiful wisdom. And I think there's just such a great opportunity the more that we have discussions like this to start to change the narrative on aging. Right? Because we do live in a culture that is really obsessed with the maiden archetype that just values youth at all costs. And I think when we start to cling to that time or that period, we're really missing out on some beauty, some wisdom, and another phase of blossoming. So I definitely want to get back there. But one of the things that you were talking about is how we're moving from the pitta stage of life and to the vata.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

And I believe many of my listeners are familiar with the doshas, but if you are not, they are Ayurveda mind body type. So they're really kind of like archetypes. And pitta really is representative of fire, and Vata is air and ether. So we are moving from one life phase of something that may be more creative or something that is more spiritual. Do you believe that the reason that, especially in maybe our culture, we see so many symptoms, hormonal distress, is because we are still very much in the pitta phase as opposed to taking time to slow down and enter that next phase.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Oh, 100%. Absolutely. And we know from like an Ayurvedic perspective, the mind body intricately connected. You can't separate the 2. So any impression on the body is gonna leave a subtle impression on the mind and the impression of the mind will leave an impression on the body. And so if your body's naturally trying to transition through this phase and you're mentally still really stuck in that Peter phase, it's going to create an imbalance in the body and vice versa. And talking about the doses, what we naturally have, an affinity to 1 of the doses or 2 of the doses, or maybe even all 3 of the doses, if you try dose shake, but they can present slightly different in this menopausal transition or perimenopausal transition. So someone with a VARTA imbalance, their symptoms more so will manifest as that dryness.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

They will really notice the drop in estrogen and that will cause that dryness of the joints, the vaginal lubrication, any sort of lubrication in the body becomes very dry and brittle. They will be more prone to anxiety. Insomnia is a huge one. Joint pain and irregular menstrual cycles when they're in the perimenopause phase, like really irregular before they actually go into menopause. And I think we should also mention here is that perimenopause can last for many, many years. The true definition of menopause is when you haven't had a menstrual cycle for over 12 months, and then you don't have a menstrual cycle. So if you're fluctuating and having one every 3 months and then 6 months and then 2 months, you're still in that perimenopause phase. A pitter imbalance, which is really common in this transitional phase is, as we know, hot flashes is such a common sign.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

We'll talk about that sort of trapped pitter energy, that trapped heat. There is also physiological responses in the body that is affecting the thermostat in the brain, which is also happening. And someone who's more prone to having pitter imbalances will feel these hot flushes a lot more. They might feel really irritable. They'll have more anger, maybe inflammation. A lot of digestive issues will sort of come up for their pitter women, and they can find it very hard to let go if they've been and still are because we don't retire to where like, I don't know in Australia, it's like 70. So I'm here.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

I'm like 60 7 and I think is when they say, but I think people tend to work as long as they can.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah. So we can cling on to that as part of our identity too. And it's that actually transition that can be the most hardest for these women because they've been identified with career women striving and all of a sudden to let go of that is a real shift of identity. Then who am I without all that into this new phase, which is such an important emotional aspect to work on when we do this transition. People who are more prone to a cough or imbalance, they might result in a lot of weight gain, lethargy, depression, and fluid retention. And we do know that our sex hormones have a direct impact on our stress hormones and our blood sugar hormones. So when these are imbalanced, we can find a lot of weight gain around the midsection. We've got high cortisol levels.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Those mood changes are making us feel stressed. The transition is stressful because we're like losing our sense of identity. There's so much that goes into it. And I think that's why I have data is such a beautiful medicine because it really looks at it holistically, our physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, and dharmic path when we're treating or helping managing the symptoms through this transition.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

I love that perspective that our symptoms, they're more than just something physical, but they're also talking to us from a spiritual level as well. One of the things I like to tell my community and my clients is that your symptoms are not your body malfunctioning, but really kind of directing you to experience the world in a new way, maybe inviting you to approach life a little bit differently. What do you say to your clients who are like, I don't have time to slow down. I need to keep making money, or I still have young children, still need people that depend on me that still have all of this Pitta energy and is reluctant to start inviting maybe a bit more ease into their lives.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah. There's a few approaches to that. There can be more of the Harsh approach, which is like what you don't change, you're choosing. So if you stay like that and keep doing what you're doing, and you'll keep experiencing what you're experiencing, if you want that experience to change, you have to change some things. That's like the reality of it. And I totally understand. Life is busy. Women are having children later.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

They do have kids that they're running around after and all of that. We have to make time. We have to prioritize our time for what really matters. The woman in this situation really, really matters because, yeah, we do have a lot more life span in us these days. So this perimenopause to menopause transition sometimes is really sort of stretched out. We do have to be really mindful if we want that transition to happen as easily as possible. There are definitely changes that we have to make. So it might be in our daily routine, and it could just be like some very small tweaks that can make the biggest differences.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Following more of a vast pacifying diet with warm nourishing foods, including, like, cooked vegetables, grains, healthy fats. If you're someone that's experiencing a lot of the dryness, if you're someone who, like you said, is very pure and, like, I can't slow down. I've gotta do all these things. It's like, where can you find a moment? Is that before your shower in the evening where you can practice self abhyanga massage and really give some love back to the body? Because that does so much. A calm central nervous system helps to stimulate and move the lymphatic system, which can get very sort of clogged up in this, period of life as well. It gives you a time to ground at the end of your day. And for my menopausal women, it has significantly helped with their hot flushes, which is absolutely amazing. And I don't know the actual science behind that other than perhaps the regulating the central nervous system, which might help with the thermostat in the brain.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

But also from my understanding, you apply pressure without knowing on a lot of the mama points or the the acupressure points. And so that has been proven to be very beneficial to help with hot flashes. And if you don't do some of these small little changes, then if you're very pitter, you're going to burn out and you're going to actually feel the the suffering more so later and you'll be able to do less later and you'll be forced to slow down. So it's always better to catch yourself before you get to that stage. And that's what really Iovator is about and just being able to prioritize some adequate rest and sleep practices and making sure that if I like to say to my clients who are very pitter and high functioning high stress load, you don't always have to obviously, if we all had the time and the patience, meditation morning and night, 20 minutes at least morning and night would be amazing, but reality, that's not the case for a lot of my clients who are pitter, running after kids, all those things. So I say, can we practice micro meditation? Can we practice just coming back into the body? And so even when you're at work, you can be sitting at your desk or wherever you are and know that you're starting to feel that heat build up. You can just sit there, close your eyes, come back into the body, and just breathe and slow that central nervous system down. And one breath practice I really like for the pitas is Chitali breathing, which is naturally cooling.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

So you curl your tongue, or if you can't call your tongue, make like a tube with your tongue or like you're sucking through a straw, and then you just inhale and exhale. And you're doing it through your mouth, and that's cooling the body internally. And that can just, a, regulate your central nervous system, but also cool you down and help to manage those hot flashes that are going to come up.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Yeah. Oh, thank you. I love those natural approaches, and I think Abianga is just the beautiful self care practice just to come back to your body, to your nervous system. So it's so lovely to know that it can help with hot flashes as well too. I wanted to bring up, it might be kind of a hot topic, but I feel like right now in the zeitgeist, like, I'm seeing books everywhere on menopause. I mean, it could be also because I'm 49, and, you know, this is just what is being presented to me. But I also hear on a lot of, like, the podcast, like, the functional medicine, there's so much talk about HRT. And it's I'm also hearing, like, even if you have no symptoms, you should be on it.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

And I was wondering what your take is on it. And I know this is not one size fits all and everybody is different, but I guess at a very high level.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah. A 100% one size doesn't fit all, so we're on the mark there. And the way I look at it is from a functional medicine or a allopathic medicine point of view. What they're trying to do is like, we know through menopause, our estrogen and progesterone, they drop right. Estrogen. It's not just a sex hormone and progesterone is not just a hormone that after we ovulate helps us be fertile. What they do other things in the body, so they support our bone health. And that's why menopausal women are so much more prone to fractures and arthritis and bone conditions.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

They support our cardiovascular system. Progesterone supports our mood and our brain health. So we know that when these naturally drop is why we get some of the symptoms. Some joint pain, for instance. Maybe we get some flutters in the heart and brain fog, like a lot of women you may know experience. And so what they're saying is if you go on hormone replacement therapy, then we can give you different types. And a lot of them are synthetic hormones, but there are bio identical plant based hormone replacement therapies that helps to support though the hormones which will support those functions in the body. So, better bone health, cardiovascular health, all of those things, brain health.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

That's sort of where they're coming from. It really is dependent on the client. I personally wouldn't say that everyone needs to go on even if they don't have the symptoms. I don't feel that is what I would say. It's not my area of expertise, and I can't prescribe HRT or anything like that. So So I'm just going from what I know and what I've seen in my client. However, some clients who are symptomatic and they've gone down all of the other pathways, then bio identical hormones can be very beneficial for them because they've got to think of quality of of life as well. And so I think in the natural health world, we have such beautiful body awareness and it we have so many amazing tools and beautiful medicines that we can do to support.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

At the end of the day, if they have truly done all this and they're feeling they can't remember anything. They're so angry all the time at their spouse and their kids. They don't feel like themselves purely because there has been a chemical change in their body from who they have been their whole sort of menstruating life, which is possibly from 13 years old to 55. And now there's a chemical change in the body that's changed their outlook, changed who they are and how they feel then supporting that. I don't think is a bad thing. I think that can play a role. So again, everyone is completely different and I've seen women go on bio identical hormones and they have been like, oh my God, my depression's gone. Like, I feel amazing.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

And I've had other women that have tried it and been like, it was not for me. You've gotta help me just with I beta because that didn't serve me. And I will say it does take a lot of time to titrate the right dose for you with the bio identical. So you have to work with a really good doctor. And I don't know what it's like in the states. I'm speaking from an Australian perspective, but a lot of the good ones here where I'm from in my area do work with the bioidentical hormones. So that's from my perspective of what I've seen personally with clients.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Yeah. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. I know that the women in my community, it goes both ways, and it really is such a personal decision. I think one of the things that comes up for me when I hear talk of HRT or woman going on it is, yes, and there still needs to be the lifestyle changes as well. Not the quick fix, like it's gonna solve the problems, but it's almost like a supplement to maybe all of the good work that you're doing with the lifestyle.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

100%. And you can only exacerbate your connection to self and connection to spirit and all of that through this transition time. If you're doing the lifestyle, the diet, you can't expect one size fits all. So even if you go on hotshot tea, it's not gonna support all of the symptoms, everything, especially if you're going through an identity crisis. You have to do all things. And that's even for women who may be on any medication, even through their perimenopausal phase, their younger phase of life. You can't just rely on that. You've gotta go deeper.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

You've gotta change lifestyle, change diet, because that is helping grow you as the person, the goddess within. It's not just about taking even an Ayurvedic herbal supplement. That's not what it's about. It's about creating and cultivating greater self awareness of self and being able to grow through this lifetime. And that doesn't come by taking any herbal supplement or medication. It comes by doing the inner work and the Ayurvedic rituals and the practices. That is what's really going to support us for longevity as well. That's where it helps our longevity.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Yeah. Oh, I love that perspective. And when we think of it that way, you kind of touched on this at the beginning. What is the invitation then for women as they are almost transforming their identity to a in a sense. Do you have any thoughts on, like, how how a woman can reframe that or what is this invitation? Yeah. Version.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

I 100%. I I speak to my clients a lot about this. I'm like, this can be such an exciting phase because you are transitioning into what I call the wise womanhood phase of life. And you are connect. You are stepping into this more spiritual side of you and finding you yourself again, like really finding who you are. If you do take the opportunity to slow down a little bit to pivot, maybe you are dropping a shift at work or what that might look like. What is it that you really, really connect with and enjoy? Like where's that? What about that creativity? Cause creativity is also a connection to spirituality. Have you always thought about writing a book? I know you've written a book like beautiful goddess book.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

And so maybe you've got a second book coming up or maybe there's some wisdom inside me that I really need to get out on paper and or maybe it's that I've always loved gardening, but I've never really had the time. And even if you're in a unit, you might just buy a few little pet plants and maybe they're beautiful herbs like some tools or something like that. You can really nurture for those. Maybe it's finding some support groups or joining some groups with women of your age and going for ocean swims or depending on where you live, maybe it's a hike, but really connecting back to that that playful side of self and that self that feels connected to because that could all be part of your dharma. Yeah. Dharma is doesn't always have to be this higher purpose of this career. Like, we've blown that out of proportion in our western society. Our dharma is the right action in the right moment and the right time for us.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

And this is our Dharma is to be able to slow down and really connect in this phase of life with who we truly want to be. And that identity can be such a beautiful shift if we allow it to be. And we can step into that inner goddess and that higher wisdom of self when we can connect to our creativity and our spiritual side and really allow that to, to flourish in these times. This isn't always the case, but hopefully, like for many of you may have already had the career. You've already built your assets. You've raised your kids. I know you've got teenage kids, so there's still a lot of raising and running around to do, but they are coming of age. And so there is that part where you can let go a little bit and move into to your phase of life as well.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Yeah. It can be really an exciting time. Carl Jung has this beautiful quote where he says, life really does begin at 40. Up until then, you're just doing research. And I love to think about it. It's like the first half of life. You're trying to figure out how to survive. You're building your family or your career, and it's like a very much outward focused energy.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

And then the second half of life is you get to rediscover you and what it is that you enjoy and turns you on and lights you up.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah. I I totally agree on body in my bodies, and I've never felt more sure of who I am and more confident and I'm in a really, really good place. And I think exactly. I love that quote. You are figuring everything out and it does take that long. It does. And sometimes we're still we're still figuring it out, let's be honest. But from a more confident place and also from a more accepting place, if you allow yourself to step into that and I think that the beautiful the Sanskrit word of Sentosa, it's like that content really start we can start to embody that Sentosha in our life.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Yeah. Oh, I love that word. One word that I do not really love is happy. And, of course, I want all of you to be very happy, but it just sounds so transient when you see the happiness hacks and this and that. Sentosha, there's just this inner this inner contentment. I will be okay. I am good. And I think that's really what we're striving for.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah. Absolutely. Happiness is great and joyfulness is great. But in reality, if we can strive for that contentment, Sentosha, that's the reality of what life really can show us and have those beautiful, happy moments within that Sentosa. But even when things aren't going amazing because this is just life and we're humans, we can still have that acceptance and channel into that feeling of sentosha, of contentment. I can get through this, been through this, and you just do it with that wise womanhood hat on easier.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Yeah. But I love that you're saying the wise woman because I always love to bring in archetypes into the discussion. There is the maiden mother crone, but sometimes, especially, we're we're healthier and we're doing things longer. It seems like a big switch from the mother than to the crone. Then there's archetypes in between, like the wise woman. And I've been working with the enchantress, which I think is a good archetype that starts to bridge the mother and the crone. Are there any other archetypes that come to mind for this phase of life just to help them give them a new perspective as we want to hold on to the maiden sometimes or even the mother, but there's so much more to explore.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah. I actually feel that this phase of stepping back into your creative and play side as well alongside that sort of wise womanhood. I I feel when I picture it in my head, it's this this beautiful goddess being able to step out really confident, having all this one a a little bit like having this beautiful wisdom, but being really content in herself, not having to prove herself. But then also this ability to have that playful side again and that creativity. Saraswati is very creative. That's who comes to to mind for me personally. I don't know from your perspective. I know goddess is, your thing and you've done so much work on that.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

So is there another one that sort of aligns to what I'm saying?

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Yes. Most definitely. There's Keri Dwen and she is a Welsh goddess of divination, inspiration, and magic. And the interesting thing about Ceridwyn is she is a mother, but her kids are older. So it's no longer the day to day driving around. Not that they were driving around in 2000 years ago and dealing with activities, but she's older. She has this cauldron of inspiration. She's always creating, transforming.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

She's a shape shifter. And I think that can be a really powerful one to work. Who am I who am I becoming next? What am I creating? What am I bringing to life? Just because we're no longer creating babies and okay, if that was never your path, but I think as women, we're just currently creative. There's always something burst and forth, whether it's the garden, planting the herbs, or creating a really nice experience for dinner, but there's always something that we're creating.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah. I love that. Absolutely. And I can really feel that energy through that transitional shift. What are we creating? Who are we, who are we today? We can step into our many facets of what we've built up over all of these years of who we are. Cause we're not just this one singular sort robot being. We have so many facets of self and being able to explore those again is just magical.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Yeah. It really is. Thank you so much. It was just such a pleasure having you here today. Is there anything else you would like to share anything for women who are currently struggling going through things, maybe both physically and spiritually, any words of wisdom that you would like to provide before we wrap up?

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah. I think when we can start to understand our selves and when we do that through Ayurvedic, it's really about cultivating more self awareness. We can transition through this a lot easier. And that is working as we've mentioned on that shift of identity piece and allowing that to flow and being a pathway and a passageway into our rights, into this wise womanhood and not being caught up in society's narrative that this is aging. It's not aging. It is actually blooming. It's just this new phase of an exciting phase of life, and it's a very respected phase if we allow that to be. So really working on yourself, doing the rituals, really tapping into who you are is going to help you in this transition in the most profound way.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

And I think when we look at things like Ayurvedic psychology, we look at the different layers of the mind. If we can allow ourselves to constantly be operating from ahamkara and more stepping into that body, that higher intellect of the mind, we're being able to move through, hopefully in like the thirties, forties. If we've done the work, we've moved through the Samskaras, those imprints that are left on the chitta, the subconscious mind that have sort of created those limiting core beliefs and held us to the belief of who we are in that in that lifetime. And we're moving through those. We're breaking through those samskaras, and we're transitioning through to these other sides. So there's more clarity of mind. And so I think that if we can really work on those aspects of self, so we're releasing a lot of the armor, the physical, the mental, emotional armor that's being built up over time, then we can step into this phase, not with the brain frog, but actually with the clarity of mind where that goddess wisdom, that Saraswati wisdom really gets to shine.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Oh, I love that. Do you have a favorite ritual that you would like to share just in your own practice?

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah, absolutely. So I have morning and evening rituals, and my morning ritual is always I get up and I'm an early riser. Like this was 6 am as we were recording, but that's fine for me because I love to watch the sunrise. I live on the gold coast in Australia and I get up and make a beautiful tea and I watch the sunrise. And then I do, I come back into self and I do some breath. So always connect to breath, connect to body, connect to self, how, and ask that, how am I feeling today? And then I will always have to move my body. I'm a bar to Peter constitution. So I do some sort of movement and I just absolutely love that for me.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

And whether that's walking Pilates yoga, I just feel so energized from that. And again, it's another way of connecting to my body and connecting to my breath. And in the evening, I actually love to do my, I'll be younger. If I can, if I've got the time, I will do it morning and night, but I have actually really been enjoying my other younger lately. I've there's something about the last, probably 3 months. I have done it so consistently and have just felt the benefit. Have felt everything in me just slow down, feel nurtured. Like we do it with oil, which is the word, like the word Ollie ation is a snare.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Right. And also snare also means love. And so we're giving ourselves love and self compassion. And to be honest, like I haven't done it as consistently as I have now. And I have absolutely noticed the difference on that emotional, spiritual and connection level. And when I'm doing the, I'll be younger, I might put on some different chants or, music depending on the energy I want to bring in. And if it is in the morning and I'm about to teach in my Ayurveda school, it will be the energy of Saraswati. So some of those chants, maybe it's Lakshmi.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

It's like more about that abundance feeling. Yeah. Depending on what energy I want to bring in, because I feel like I'm literally absorbing and soaking it into my body when I'm listening to those beautiful sounds and massaging into my body.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Oh, I love that. That's so beautiful. Abianga self massage with oil. It has so many physical benefits, but you really touched on so many psycho spiritual benefits as well where it just feels good. And I love the idea of really thinking of the intention or what do you wanna embody? Is it the Saraswati energy and or Lakshmi energy? That's beautiful. Well, thank you so much, Harmony, for joining and all of your beautiful wisdom that I know is going to be so helpful and appreciated from many of the women in my community. I will put all of your information in the show notes. So Instagram, website, anything else or anything that you want to just share or how people can find you or work with you.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So if you did want to reach out, I'm quite active on Instagram at Harmony Inspired Iveyor. So you can drop into my DMS there. I do have the Aveda school running. So if you are interested in becoming an Aveda women's health coach, then you can find that on my website, harmony inspired health.com.au. And if you do wanna work with me one to 1, you can also find all the links there.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

And I also have a podcast, harmony inspired health. So talking at least has actually been on my podcast. Yeah. Well, speaking about all the goddesses. So Yeah.

Lisa Marie Rankin:

Great. And I will have all of those links in the show notes. So thank you so much. And it was lovely seeing you.

Harmony Robinson Stagg:

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. I really love sharing this information and all. Yeah. I do have a blog on my website, so I will send you a blog about the menopause, a perimenopause to menopause transition. Just if your listeners want to sort of read through and learn a little bit more about that hormonal shift and some aelitic herbs that can help and that kind of

Lisa Marie Rankin:

stuff. Fantastic. Alright. That will be there as well too. Alright. Thank you so much.