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Foreign ladies and gentlemen, good good afternoon and welcome to episode 92 of the

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Secular Foxhole podcast.

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Today it's just Martin and I and this will be

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a short end of year show where we're just gonna thank all our guests that we've had

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throughout the year and all their wonderful ideas and comments and commentaries and we

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wish them all much success in the new year and hopefully many of them, if not all of them,

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will return sometime in the future.

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But today I just wanted to say again, this is a wrap up.

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I've recently retired from 36 years in IT and even longer in work life.

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So I have a new chapter in life ahead of me and I'm enjoying my days so far.

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And let's see we the one piece of really good news I have is concerns Professor Brad

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Thompson of Clemson University.

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He's got a new book coming out called the

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Political Thought of the American Revolution A Reader and it's a two volume set and the first

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volume comes out pretty soon.

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I know there's no, he doesn't have a published date yet, but he said pretty soon and it says

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in his substack article about it, he says the first volume, subtitled the Imperial Crisis

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and Independ, assembles some of the most important tracks in the conflict between Great

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Britain and her American colonies in the years between 1761 and 1776.

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The second volume, subtitled Revolutionary Constitution Making and Social Reform,

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presents dozens of original documents concerned with the attempts by American

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revolutionaries to construct new constitutions and governments after 1776 and to reform the

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laws of their societies.

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Speaking for myself, I think Professor Thompson is as far as 21st century.

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He's the most competent pro American philosopher, writer, historian that we have

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today and his work deserves the widest audience possible.

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And so that's, that was my one piece of, you know what I thought was really a highlight

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which will happen early in the new year when that first volume comes out.

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And he also, you know, he's written, he's got his own publishing company called Loco Foco

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Press and I tried to find the website which I still have not been able to find, which is

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very strange.

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But apparently it, that Locofoco is part of a, a movement back in those times that's sort of

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a, I don't want to say libertarian ish, but certainly freedom oriented if I'm not

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mistaken.

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Correct meaning of liber and freedom and liberty and.

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Yeah, things like that.

Martin:

Libertine or something like that.

Martin:

Yeah.

Blair:

Oh okay.

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Yeah. And that, let's see, what else could.

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I comment on that Also, of course, I think in his newsletter he had some news

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coming up that he will announce also that's happening.

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So then I sent in an email and also waited for a reply there.

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So it will be interesting.

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You are having a good contact there, Blair.

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And he has his substack newsletter on Substack and it has a special name.

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Isn't it like a nickname with dread Red.

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Is it Redneck?

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And it's called the Redneck Intellectual.

Martin:

Yeah. And that's.

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Is it the one that down deep down south that

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you had the T shirt with your neck? Neck T shirt.

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That could very well be.

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But of course, since there's so much sun,

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people's necks get red.

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So.

Martin:

Yeah, so red.

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But this also has connotations that are of a slur nature.

Martin:

Yeah, I know it is, but.

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But I think.

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I think he uses it all as a pun and fun.

Martin:

Yeah. And that's.

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That's good.

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That's good.

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And go ahead.

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Yeah, and also you talked about that and I now when I'm recording.

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So next week it's as I think should be an American holiday.

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And that's the December 16th Boston Tea Party, 1773.

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So we have been celebrating that with friends and Americans in spirit in Gothenburg, Sweden,

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for many years, several occasions.

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We'll see what happened this year.

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But we are.

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I always on this day thinking about what's

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happened in Boston.

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That's very Tea party that they had.

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And of course, as I said, as I'm a tea

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enthusiast, for me it's important of the value of beverage and the trading and the plant and

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why it was, you know, it was boiling over or how do you say, got it happening.

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I mean, it could be some other commodity or something, but it was that the English men

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trained or got the colonists that they liked this brew, the cup, and then they taxed it and

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they didn't have any representation.

Blair:

That's right.

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That's right.

Martin:

And yeah, I wonder if that's maybe going on during these times also.

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I think there's certainly trends toward freedom, hopefully.

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I don't really want to go negative at the end of the year because of the yuletide

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celebrations and so on.

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And that's a good word also yuletide.

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And I will say here in Swedish, yuletide or Xmas.

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It's called juvel in Swedish.

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And that's coming from yule log that you put

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in the fireplace.

Blair:

Yes.

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And then you count the sparks and thinking of good times and what's coming.

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And you want to keep warmth during the whole holiday.

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So that's what the word jewel is coming from.

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I like that.

Martin:

Yeah. So I know.

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So as far as the secular Foxhole podcast is concerned, next year we will hope

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to update our logo and perhaps have a new and.

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Or different song or jingle.

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And artwork.

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And artwork.

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Right.

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And then some of the guests we hope to have again, I hope to.

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I'll reach out to Brad Thompson when this book is published and hopefully have him on.

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And then we did confirm, at least preliminarily with a gentleman named Scott

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Powell, who's a homeschool teacher and historian and he's written three books and he

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is very knowledgeable about literature and history.

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And so hopefully that will happen very soon.

Martin:

Yeah.

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And I probably kick off the new year with Mr. Powell.

Martin:

Yeah, great.

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And. And then hopefully Brad Thompson shortly after that.

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But go ahead.

Martin:

Yeah. I also want to say that we have been planning and that's also thanks to

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another returning guest, Robert Beagley, to prepare for a follow up of the Thomas Paine

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Institute with Alex and Kevin.

Blair:

That's true.

Martin:

And thanks for your support.

Blair:

Yes, very much.

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Thank you.

Martin:

So that's great.

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And we'll talk more about.

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Because we have a milestone coming up.

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It will probably be around mid mid 2025 or in

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the spring, late spring.

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Then if everything goes according to plan, we'll reach episode 100.

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And that's for podcasters.

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That's often that you celebrate that in a

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special way.

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So if you listener have any ideas how to do it

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or feedback or input or whatever.

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And we will try to use this new modern podcast applications and technology and this

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podcasting 2.0 initiat and this value for value model.

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So we could do something special for that.

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But I think every episode is important and

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valuable and it will be interesting to go back and go through and listen through and take

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some notes and see what we could come up with.

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Blair. So and again, I want to do a bit of if I continue with the call to action and also

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plans to get the guests and others but onboarding to this new way of international

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lifestyle when it comes to podcasting 2.0.

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So we could share the splits with the guests and we could get support and donations and

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booster grams and read on air and all kind of cool things that could happen with new modern

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podcast applications.

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And again I want to thank.

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What's his name now again? Oh, Kevin.

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No. Is it? No down or in Australia that gave a great

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review of our show and explained what our show is all about.

Blair:

Yeah, I don't remember his name either.

Martin:

But Dana under So thanks.

Martin:

Yes, yes, I will include in the show notes and

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mere mortals since the podcast.

Blair:

That's right, that's right, yes.

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Yeah.

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Again though otherwise we wish everyone very joy filled yuletide season and a great new

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year full of success and prosperity.

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Yeah, so that's a wrap for me I guess, Martin.

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Yeah.

Martin:

And I will add some stuff here.

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By all means, please.

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Absolutely.

Martin:

So future plans, as you said, the jingle, the artwork and the milestones here of

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100 episodes upcoming and the POD page that you are taken care of and you secured a great

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domainware with secular Voxel and there you could do all kind of cool features and so on

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with POD page.

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So we'll look into that.

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And also I could tell about what you learn when you're running with CSS.

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That's an expression in the podcast in 2.0

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community.

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Could say that I got Albi Hub and then it was

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recommended to have a certain amount of satoshis and now for some reason, and that's

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in a way good way.

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But the bitcoin have increased in value or you could say maybe the fiat currency have, you

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know, happens with that value, so to speak.

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So it's getting there.

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The bitcoin price, it's over.

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What is it? Hundred reached?

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It's close to 200 or 100,000, I think, maybe even more.

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Yeah. So when I so called added to the GitHub list this number 221905 that we talked

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about, Ran's day boostergram number, Ran's birthday, February 2, 1905.

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The first time a couple of years ago it was like $50 I think now it's over $200 to send

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that boostogram.

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Well, that just proves that bitcoin is very valuable.

Martin:

Yes, so we'll look into that.

Martin:

And then I also want to say, I mean as you

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said, you are retiring.

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I'm still open for work.

Blair:

Good, good.

Martin:

Yeah. And I'm open for these projects when it comes to podcasting and new media and

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freedom of expression.

Blair:

Good. So I've just thought of something, Martin, if you don't mind me

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interceding, it's all good.

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One of our guests, Richard Salzman, he praises a woman economist, her name is Judy Shelton

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and she has written a book called I believe it's called Good as Gold, which is on Kindle

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for $2.99,

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which I think is the regular price, not just the sale price.

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And of course it comes out in paperback as well.

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About the gold, perhaps the world returning to a gold standard.

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I think she's written about that before, but this might be a current, more updated version

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of that.

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And I am going to read that book and reach out

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to her if I can.

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Great.

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And then have her as a guest.

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That'll be next year.

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Yeah, but I just thought of that and I wanted

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to mention that to our listeners.

Martin:

That's a good point and because in a way you're reading my mind because the latest

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episode of podcasting 2.0 podcast with Adam Curry and Dave Jones.

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Dave Jones made a comment on how you build this initiative.

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I mean it's not a company, it's not an organization, it's open source, it's

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programmers, developers, hosting companies, individuals like me that want to or supporter

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and want to test it and spread the good word.

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And then he had an interesting thing that it was small time libertarian, it was some in the

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Austrian economics or something like that that had an interesting expression about

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competition in a friendly way and how that lead to things.

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You don't have an automatic outcome.

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You don't know how it.

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They took the example, for example, with VHS and Betamax and others.

Blair:

Right, right.

Martin:

You know, in a way one format could be better technically wise and the experts are

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saying, but then it's up to the market to decide and the users and the consumers and the

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producers and so on.

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So it's interesting to see how we could be really in a way, supporters of free tools and

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free economy.

Blair:

Absolutely.

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And spreading the ideas.

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And that's why it's interesting with again,

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thanks to Albi, to Tomek, for example, that also have interest in ideas and philosophy.

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And so we will look more into that.

Blair:

Yes.

Martin:

And try to get it out to our listeners and because it's.

Martin:

It's an educational thing.

Martin:

I mean that's how for example, you introduced

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me to Swan Bitcoin, for example.

Blair:

Right.

Martin:

And there I see.

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I mean it's interesting to see.

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But when you have this again, changes of rules, regulations and what's going on and

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then you see what's happening now in Argentina that is possible to change things.

Blair:

This is certainly true.

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But then again you have to have a philosophical foundation that is absolutely.

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You have to get it.

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It's the only lasting way to have it done with the proper philosophic foundation.

Martin:

So yeah, also.

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And then again, if you value this, you could support us in different ways and we will

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include the support page on Captivate.

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And so we have got that in the past and we

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could have it in the future also.

Martin:

Thank you very much in advance.

Martin:

And then doing this onboarding and I will talk

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Again with Sam Sati for the next year, how we could onboard in an easy and secure way and in

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a positive way get this gamification on its way.

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So I will end, if it's okay, Blair, with a little bit of stat stats and.

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But not damn stats.

Blair:

Well, let me.

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Let me tip my hat to captivate and POD page

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for all the outstanding.

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Do what they do for us and it's all yours,

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Martin.

Martin:

Yeah, and that's also with Sam Seti.

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I mean, it is not about the numbers and the

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downloads and how many.

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We are very niche podcast, but we see the

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potential.

Blair:

Yes.

Martin:

So every individual, every listener is important.

Martin:

So it's not downloads as such.

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And the good thing is our small podcast is

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that we are not dependent on numbers in that way.

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And that as a new media advisor, I'm very interested in this.

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What's going on in advertising, in the big shows.

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We shouldn't talk about this now, but what's happening in the election, for example, the

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importance of podcasting there, if you appeared on a podcast or not.

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And the mainstream media, what's going on there or not going on.

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And the opportunity with like newsletters, tools like Substack, for example, and Bradley

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Thompson coming across in a positive way, changing one individual.

Martin:

How to say it? Yeah.

Blair:

One mind at a time.

Martin:

Yeah, thanks.

Martin:

So with that said, Sam's setis talk about the download numbers versus like time spent or

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listening or engagement or feedback or booster grams.

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So it's not the download number as such.

Blair:

Okay.

Martin:

But that could be one figure.

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But we will see then in the future as we have

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seen the feedback from our guests, listeners, donations, booster grams, comments, the POD

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page, as you said, for example, you could do that.

Martin:

But anyway, we kept it there with the stats around average.7 downloads per day is average.

Blair:

Okay.

Martin:

We have had unique listeners and this is a number that I've been thinking about.

Martin:

It's pretty big, I think.

Martin:

But according to Captivate then unique

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listeners over the whole, in total, over time, 5,796.

Blair:

I'll take that number.

Martin:

Yeah. And in total downloads, 10,981.

Martin:

And that's if you do it comparison with the

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big shows or pretty big shows or seven big shows.

Martin:

You know, they could have that download number in one episode.

Martin:

But that's only the small minority that have that.

Blair:

That's true.

Martin:

The average is like 150.

Martin:

I think Libsyn's, that official podcast, the

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feed is saying that still it's around 150.

Martin:

And we are, you know, if you take seven downloads per day.

Martin:

And we have about two episodes per month, sometimes more, sometimes less.

Martin:

We are, you know, we are not in the top, but we are not in the bottom either.

Blair:

No, we're not.

Martin:

And we see the potential.

Martin:

But if we could, as I said, reach one individual that will think about this.

Martin:

And I'm so happy to.

Martin:

Again, thanks to all the guests that saying

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that they like to, you know, to be in the foxhole, the secular foxhole with us.

Blair:

Yes.

Martin:

They're taking their time and that's why I wanted to add them onboard them and add

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them to the split because this will be the future.

Martin:

They change.

Martin:

So. And in total, new modern podcast app, for

Martin:

example, Fountain, it's like 2%.

Martin:

So if we could increase that a little bit,

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that will get some interesting impact in the future.

Martin:

Okay, so check out the new modern podcast app.

Martin:

And we will include that in show notes also.

Martin:

And the total numbers, Blair, in countries is as follows.

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Now, United States, 65%.

Blair:

Great.

Martin:

So that's the main market, so to speak.

Martin:

Canada is 5%.

Blair:

Very nice.

Martin:

Sweden for some reason is third place here.

Blair:

That's fine.

Martin:

Yeah. And United Kingdom.

Blair:

Good.

Martin:

India, Australia, Norway, Belgium and Germany.

Martin:

And in total, we are in 102. 102 countries.

Blair:

That's staggering, to be honest.

Martin:

And the latest periods, like 28 days over the last month, we had some downloads in

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Singapore.

Martin:

That's something to reflect on.

Blair:

I would love to go to Singapore, believe me.

Blair:

Yeah.

Martin:

And there you are again.

Martin:

That's probably after, you know, Hong Kong is, you know, it's a big country, but it's pity to

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say it's belonging, so to speak, in quotation mark with mainline China.

Martin:

It shouldn't, but it does.

Martin:

But Singapore is economically wise.

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It's probably one of the freest, I think.

Martin:

But then you have again with the philosophical lack of foundation, whatever, or to really

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integrate the freedom.

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Freedom in every aspects of your life.

Blair:

That's true.

Blair:

I mean, they're just using.

Martin:

But it's great that somebody in Singapore could listen to our show.

Blair:

I'm glad.

Blair:

Yes, I'm thrilled.

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Believe me.

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I love that.

Blair:

But it's the standard worldwide now.

Blair:

You allow some economic freedom, but you can continue to control most of everything else,

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which.

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Okay, we have to eat.

Blair:

So let's open the capitalist, as I think one of objectivist intellectuals, he put it some

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years ago, he says, we'll loosen the noose a little bit.

Martin:

Now I interrupt you, but that's what I like with Richard Van Saltzman, that he

Martin:

explained the word capitalism.

Martin:

I think with the cap, the thinking cap.

Blair:

Right? True. Good point.

Blair:

Yeah.

Martin:

Yeah. With that note, Blair, do you want to wrap it up or do you have anything

Martin:

else you want to say?

Blair:

Martin, it's.

Blair:

It's been a great ride.

Martin:

Yeah.

Blair:

And we'll.

Martin:

Likewise.

Blair:

We'll take the.

Blair:

We'll take it into the new year.

Martin:

Yeah.

Blair:

And thank you again for everything you do.

Blair:

I really sincerely mean that same player.

Blair:

And happy.

Blair:

Happy Yuletide.

Blair:

And Happy New Year.

Blair:

And we'll talk again soon.

Martin:

Yeah, we will.

Martin:

Thanks.

Blair:

All right.

Blair:

You're welcome.

Blair:

Thank you.

Martin:

Bye for now.