Study as much as you can.
Speaker:Learn as many things as you can from as many people as you can.
Speaker:But beware of the pitfalls of the illusion that now it's done.
Speaker:Hi, I'm Dr. John Demartini. And in all probability,
Speaker:you've heard the term enlightenment.
Speaker:Maybe from a Buddhist construct or possibly Eastern mysticism
Speaker:construct,
Speaker:or maybe just awareness in your personal development journey.
Speaker:I'd like to take a few moments to go over the idea of the journey
Speaker:of enlightenment.
Speaker:I didn't say journey to enlightenment - the journey of enlightenment.
Speaker:I want to break a few myths. In my earlier years,
Speaker:back, 40, 50 years ago, I was on a pursuit of quote,
Speaker:"more awareness", "more enlightened" state of mind.
Speaker:And I got to study under various teachers and even gurus.
Speaker:And I was sometimes initially gullible and vulnerable to
Speaker:thinking that some of these individuals, you know,
Speaker:lived in a state of enlightenment or something.
Speaker:And in a very short period of time, I was,
Speaker:my fantasy was broken and I realized to ground myself and
Speaker:realized that, you know,
Speaker:there's moments of enlightenment in a journey through life.
Speaker:And there's not this 'I'm now enlightened. And I stay the enlightened.' I mean,
Speaker:let's just put things into perspective just for a second.
Speaker:I'm just going to have some fun here. Imagine a little Yogi.
Speaker:Who's sitting in the lotus position,
Speaker:crossing legs and sitting there with his hands to the side and he's chanting
Speaker:and he's sitting on the earth, maybe at the equator,
Speaker:and the earth is going around a thousand miles an hour around the earth, in
Speaker:a 24 hour period. So it takes 24 hours.
Speaker:And this little guru is saying, 'I am enlightened.'
Speaker:And then you realize that the earth is spinning and it's doing that
Speaker:365 and a quarter times as it goes around the sun,
Speaker:93 million miles away, 1 astronomical unit away.
Speaker:So from the perspective of the sun,
Speaker:it's hard to even see the earth without a telescope. Now,
Speaker:seeing that little guru going around in circles on that,
Speaker:it looks kind of like a hamster in a hamster wheel.
Speaker:It's trapped in a very limited construct.
Speaker:It only has the awareness of what it's learned through its senses and maybe some
Speaker:of its instruction,
Speaker:which is limited to somebody's senses possibly and maybe imagination.
Speaker:And their degree of awareness is very finite.
Speaker:Thinking back thousands of years ago,
Speaker:maybe we thought the earth was the center of the universe,
Speaker:but today it's an infinitesimal spec.
Speaker:Now take the sun and go 26-27,000 light years,
Speaker:that's the speed of light,
Speaker:which is 186,000 miles a second x
Speaker:86,400 seconds in a day x 365 and a quarter
Speaker:days, x 26,000. And that's how far we are to the center of the Milky way.
Speaker:Now to the center of the Milky way looking out at our sun with all the gas and
Speaker:dust we can't see it. So now from the center of the Milky way,
Speaker:looking at the sun, looking at the little earth, looking at the little guru,
Speaker:we realize that that individual that thinks they're enlightened is an
Speaker:insignificant infinitesimal. Now, if we go around to the Virgo cluster,
Speaker:which is a series of cluster of galaxies, or maybe to the supercluster,
Speaker:Laniakea Supercluster,
Speaker:or into the great fabric and web of the cosmos, which is vast,
Speaker:we can't even comprehend. The observable universe is so fast,
Speaker:it's hard to comprehend, let alone what's beyond our observable universe,
Speaker:the horizon. Now,
Speaker:when you stop and think about somebody who's enlightened in that,
Speaker:it's a bit of a ego. I love what Albert Einstein said,
Speaker:"It's wise to live with holy curiosity." That no matter what you know,
Speaker:tomorrow you're going to learn something new.
Speaker:So I'd like to debunk the idea of 'full enlightenment',
Speaker:that's, I know that some gurus have basically said that, you know, 'Well,
Speaker:I have a universal consciousness.' Nah.
Speaker:That's a bit of an illusion. So I don't want to promote that.
Speaker:Cause I saw that in my, in my late teens and early twenties,
Speaker:I saw people doing that and I was a bit vulnerable to that myself.
Speaker:And then I got to meet some of the gurus and get to know behind the scenes and
Speaker:talk with them and get friends with them and find out that they're just human
Speaker:beings. They're human beings. And they have moments of awareness,
Speaker:brilliant awareness and moments of enlightenment,
Speaker:but they're limited to what they know,
Speaker:either what they've read or learned or observed or some sort of sensory things.
Speaker:And our visual senses, our visible perspective,
Speaker:which is the broadest of all our senses. We can see farther than
Speaker:we can hear farther than we can smell farther than we can taste father than we
Speaker:can touch. Just our visible,
Speaker:we only see 450 to 750 nanometer range.
Speaker:There's an infrared and ultraviolet and gamma and x-ray,
Speaker:and there's a vast amount of universe we don't even see,
Speaker:we don't even know about without telescopes and microscopes.
Speaker:So when we stop and think about the finiteness that we are aware of,
Speaker:I'd rather say that we have a relative awareness. When people ask me,
Speaker:'When did you get enlightened?' I go,
Speaker:'You gotta be joking.' I'm a human being on a journey who's studying and
Speaker:maybe relative to some other individual about a particular topic,
Speaker:I might have an awareness, but I'm not fully enlightened.
Speaker:I have moments of relative awareness and maybe an enlightenment on a
Speaker:topic for a moment, that's about it.
Speaker:So I don't want to mislead somebody and I don't want people to be misled
Speaker:by a fantasy of supernatural enlightenment,
Speaker:because those that have tried to portray that for marketing purposes
Speaker:eventually got humbled.
Speaker:And most people who are gullible enough to fantasize about that got
Speaker:misled and usually cost them some money to teach them that lesson.
Speaker:So beware. Richard M Bucke,
Speaker:who wrote a book called Cosmic Consciousness, which
Speaker:I'm not saying everything in there is the most wise thing,
Speaker:but it's still worth reading. He wrote it in from 190 1 from London,
Speaker:Ontario, is where he published it.
Speaker:And he basically took 43 of the most illuminated people in the Western and
Speaker:Eastern world,
Speaker:and looked at their lives and kind of defined the common denominators in
Speaker:individuals and took the average age of relative awareness,
Speaker:founded around age 36 most of them when they had their so-called "epiphanies"
Speaker:and showed very clearly that they only had moments of awareness,
Speaker:moments of relative enlightenment. There was nobody fully enlightened,
Speaker:staying enlightened and living in bliss. And so I don't want to,
Speaker:I don't want people to be misled by that, I don't want to promote that.
Speaker:I thought that and was vulnerable to that in my twenties, early teens,
Speaker:maybe early twenties, but about age 29 to 30,
Speaker:I broke that. And that was a big lift because I realized,
Speaker:as I went down my pursuit of relative enlightenment,
Speaker:journey of enlightenment and studying philosophy and theology and physics and
Speaker:mathematics and 299 different disciplines that I've studied,
Speaker:even the individuals that are the leaders in their field have their biases and
Speaker:blindnesses,
Speaker:it's awareness and it's a dialectic of pairs of opposite viewpoints that
Speaker:eventually come to a synthesis and is syncretically integrated over time.
Speaker:And so yes, a body of work, of great literature, Vedic literature,
Speaker:and the Shruti and you know, Western philosophies and things,
Speaker:these are all valuable. You want to, you want to learn everything you can,
Speaker:but you want to continue on the journey of learning and not think, well,
Speaker:now it's done. I got that. There's the enlightened one.
Speaker:I can now subordinate to them and minimize myself to them and put them on some
Speaker:sort of pedestal.
Speaker:I'd rather live in holy curiosity and continue to grow and know that whatever we
Speaker:learn now, tomorrow, we're going to be able to be learning something new.
Speaker:Because I think that's part of the fulfillment, is learning.
Speaker:And if it's done and stagnant, it's over with,
Speaker:you'll minimize yourself relative to somebody you think is exaggerated.
Speaker:And I don't think that's really wise or fair to you as a human being,
Speaker:to self-actualize your life.
Speaker:I think that it's wise to realize that we're all human beings,
Speaker:we all have different values.
Speaker:We all have different areas of inquiry and we have different levels of awareness
Speaker:in that path, and we can assist others in our learning,
Speaker:but we can also mislead others, because we're all learning. And we have to,
Speaker:we have to put, ground that, get real about it. If I say something,
Speaker:just because I say it doesn't mean it's absolute universal truth.
Speaker:It's my understanding at the time.
Speaker:And it may evolve and the same thing for any other teacher out there.
Speaker:And the same thing for yourself.
Speaker:So you want to learn to stand on everybody's shoulders you can,
Speaker:learn as much as you can and grow,
Speaker:but don't get caught in the idea that there's done. You know,
Speaker:a journey of enlightenment with moments of enlightenment or moments of relative
Speaker:awareness, is I think real. And anytime you're,
Speaker:depression is a comparison of your current reality to a fantasy you get addicted
Speaker:to. And sometimes you can set up a false expectation of being, you know,
Speaker:one way or the other, enlightened or whatever.
Speaker:And then if you don't live up to it,
Speaker:and then you get caught in the pride ego you know, shame,
Speaker:polarization process. You know, I had this one gentleman come up to me,
Speaker:I was speaking years ago, this is gosh, 35 years at least,
Speaker:a guy came up to me and he said, he says, 'That was a great speech.' And I said,
Speaker:'Thank you.' And he says,
Speaker:'You are on your seventh,
Speaker:seven tenths on your way to enlightenment.' And I thought,
Speaker:'Okay, if you say so.' And he says, 'I'm fully enlightened.' And I go, 'Okay,
Speaker:cool.' And I shook his hand. I said, 'Great to meet you.' And I thought,
Speaker:what an interesting character.
Speaker:And I thought he's caught obviously in some sort of delusion he had about
Speaker:himself. And I thought,
Speaker:how can you be fully enlightened if you can learn again something
Speaker:tomorrow? And I think that's a bit delusional. But I think that,
Speaker:live with holy curiosity,
Speaker:continue to be willing to expand your awareness and potential on a daily
Speaker:basis. Learn as much as you can. Prioritize your learning, select wisely.
Speaker:I came across a book set by Mortimer Adler called
Speaker:Syntopicon volumes one and two, which was a beautifully done,
Speaker:a treatise on the greatest thinkers of the last,
Speaker:oh 3,700 years, going back to the ancient Greeks, Thales,
Speaker:all the way back through the Greek philosophers and
Speaker:thinkers.
Speaker:And I studied the Vedanta and I think it's a magnificent piece of work,
Speaker:there's some magnificent literature there that Mahabharata and the
Speaker:Upunishads and the Gita, you know, all the great literature,
Speaker:I want to study them all, but no matter how much I've gone through it,
Speaker:there's always, there's more, there's no end to it.
Speaker:And there's more depth to it. And you'll have a deeper understanding as you go,
Speaker:but continue to learn,
Speaker:study both Eastern and Western and study as much as you can,
Speaker:learn as many things as you can from as many people as you can,
Speaker:but beware of the pitfalls of the illusion that now it's done.
Speaker:As long as you're green, you're growing, as soon as you ripen, you rot.
Speaker:So don't ever think it's done and don't ever buy into the idea that somebody
Speaker:else is done,
Speaker:because that's a bit of a delusion that I think they may be thinking.
Speaker:I think some people just because you go into a meditative state,
Speaker:I've been in a meditative state many times,
Speaker:I've been doing meditation for many years,
Speaker:and many times you can go to a point where you're not aware of any boundaries
Speaker:in the universe and everything else,
Speaker:but just because you're having that experience doesn't mean you're now
Speaker:encompassing the entire universe. You may imagine it to be,
Speaker:but that's just your imagination.
Speaker:You're not letting temporary sensory
Speaker:experiences distract you from being present, and being present,
Speaker:but remember, even your language is finite,
Speaker:even those syllables you use are finite,
Speaker:and the letter in letter characters are finite.
Speaker:So your language of communicating what you even experienced is finite.
Speaker:So just put it into context and humble,
Speaker:I think it's wise to humble ourselves and humble our teachers and allow
Speaker:ourselves to continue to be on the journey to enlightenment
Speaker:or journey of enlightenment, not to enlightenment, but of enlightenment,
Speaker:and allowing ourselves to have a moment of light,
Speaker:occasionally along the journey. I wish I could say that I, I live day by day,
Speaker:every moment of every day in this blissful... No, that's not real.
Speaker:I've met enough gurus and from India and places in the world that people want to
Speaker:believe that, but when you actually get to know them, I met many of them,
Speaker:they're just human beings.
Speaker:Just know that don't exaggerate other people and minimize yourself and
Speaker:sacrifice, you know, reality for some illusion.
Speaker:Honor yourself, identify what you see in other people that you admire,
Speaker:within yourself and wake it up and then appreciate them for showing you
Speaker:something that you've disowned in you. At the level of your soul,
Speaker:nothing's missing in you. At the level of the senses,
Speaker:things appear to be missing in you. The things that appear to be missing in you,
Speaker:are all the parts you're too proud or too humble to admit you have.
Speaker:That's one of the reasons I teach the Breakthrough Experience,
Speaker:which is one of my signature programs, taught at like 1,127 times.
Speaker:And I introduce the Breakthrough in that program, the Demartini Method,
Speaker:the purpose of that method is to help you become accountable and grounded
Speaker:and not infatuated or resentful or proud or shamed and not
Speaker:emotionally polarized.
Speaker:So you can actually be more poised and present and empowered and purposeful
Speaker:and prioritized in life. So you keep living on that journey to enlightenment,
Speaker:instead of thinking it's done. The second you think it's done, you get proud,
Speaker:or the second you think somebody has done something else, you get infatuated.
Speaker:And the second you do,
Speaker:if you infatuate with somebody and minimize yourself to
Speaker:and exaggerate yourself, which is inevitable afterwards,
Speaker:you're not being yourself.
Speaker:You're only being yourself when you're actually have reflective awareness.
Speaker:And that is, the moment of, that's a moment of enlightenment,
Speaker:a moment of awareness. When you take two particles,
Speaker:an antiparticle particle and join them together, you make light,
Speaker:you take the positive and negative aspects of our nature,
Speaker:the emotions and put them together, you make a moment of enlightenment,
Speaker:a moment of grace. That we can have. But we don't stay there.
Speaker:In another 15 minutes or so,
Speaker:we'll probably be off to the next perceptions that we're going to learn some
Speaker:more, the next judgment possibly. And yeah, don't be fooled,
Speaker:be wise. That's what the Demartini Method was for.
Speaker:The Demartini Method was designed to help you be accountable methodically as a
Speaker:science to help you have an increasing number of moments of enlightenment
Speaker:along your journey of enlightenment.
Speaker:And I think that's the real essence that we have access to in our life.
Speaker:So I just wanted to share something about that journey and put it in
Speaker:perspective.
Speaker:Imagine the farthest reaches of the universe looking back at our earth and
Speaker:seeing somebody thinking they're done and they're fully aware.
Speaker:I think that would be the height of folly.
Speaker:And allow yourself to have a universal perspective and not look,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:from a very small finite component and give yourself permission to wake that
Speaker:up. Now, I realize that some people will say, 'well,
Speaker:we already are universal and we're just living this,
Speaker:in this ego that's stopping us from seeing that', that's true,
Speaker:but annihilistic tendency
Speaker:to annihilate your ego is also foolish,
Speaker:because if you think you're going to get rid of that,
Speaker:the very people that think they get rid of it, 50 years later,
Speaker:they still there with it. So that's not,
Speaker:no one's going to annihilate their very reason for their existence and no one's
Speaker:going to annihilate their thing and become part of the ocean except in their
Speaker:illusions of their imagination because they're quoting things that state that
Speaker:about it and, but the reality is, while you're in this body, wisely
Speaker:use it.
Speaker:And don't fall prey to hallucinations and illusions
Speaker:of supernaturals to distract you from being the magnificent you right
Speaker:here in this natural world. We do have a pretty amazing world.
Speaker:I'm not a doomsdayer or a boomsdayer. I'm not thinking that they're, you know,
Speaker:the world's going to be enlightened in the moment and I don't think that the
Speaker:world's going to end and that kind of stuff. I think we have to be grounded,
Speaker:have an understanding about science, study philosophy, study religion,
Speaker:if you want, mix them all together on your journey of enlightenment.
Speaker:And I just wanted to share those ideas with you.
Speaker:I hope that you can consider using the tool,
Speaker:the Demartini Method to help you on that journey,
Speaker:because I'm certain it can help.
Speaker:And until our next adventure together just know that
Speaker:give yourself permission to continue to expand and aware the holy curiosity.
Speaker:And yeah. There's no reason to ever have to stop that. Why, why,
Speaker:why not inspire be inspired by learning every single day?
Speaker:I don't see any reason why it needs to stop.