Dr. Randy Michaux [0:00 - 0:22]: And now, I mean, I love working with people and taking them through chronic illness, but really seeing them make the breakthrough of I have value. I am a being of light and love, and I am worthy of all things. And I think that's beauty. When people start to reach that point, I think that's when healing seems to take off in different ways.

Dr. Jane Levesque [0:22 - 1:42]: Embarking on a journey to become a mom can be one of the greatest and empowering experiences in her life, or it can be the most traumatic thing that a woman will ever go through. After having a family member struggle with infertility and experiencing a miscarriage myself, I realized how little support and education women receive when it comes to infertility. I'm on a mission to change that. I'm doctor Jane Levesque, a naturopathic doctor and a natural fertility expert. Tune in every Tuesday at 09:00 a.m. For insightful case studies, expert interviews, and practical tips on how you can optimize fertility naturally. If you're struggling with infertility, pregnancy loss, women's health issues, or you just want to be proactive and prepare yourself for the next big chapter in your life, this show is for you. This week I connected with doctor Randy Michaud. He's a chiropractic doctor, a health coach, and the owner of Total Body Wellness clinic. We had a great conversation on how to approach complex cases, including infertility, and how mental and emotional health is at the root of healing chronic health issues. But before we get into this uninterrupted conversation, here's an update on my latest offerings. Thanks so much for being here, Doctor Randy. Tell us who you are, what you do, who you serve.

Dr. Randy Michaux [1:43 - 3:48]: Thanks for having me. It's awesome to be on. So I work in marine, Idaho at the Total body Wellness center clinic. I used to work with Doctor Todd Watts, who still is here often. But it was awesome. He sold me the clinic a year and a little bit ago and that was amazing. So I serve people that are really battling chronic illness and I find that people that seem to be attracted to me are those that have had more of an emotional trauma that is underlying that maybe they don't recognize, right. They see all the symptoms, all the challenges that come with that. But when we start diving into trauma emotion, the thoughts, the questions that they often ask themselves, the wording, the language they use to describe themselves very quickly you pick up on, oh, theres a lot to unpack here, theres a lot of negative programming, negative language and that is so detrimental in ones health. And I think maybe that resonates with me because a lot of that was my journey, and a lot of that was what I experienced and had no idea sometimes what I was even saying or the impact that had on my own health until I finally did. And so I so appreciate the journey of a soul and the beauty of what we experience and knowing that life is a gift, that all these things, whether good, bad, ugly, have happened for us. And how do we get to the point where we see it as such? Because it's not that way going through it. Right. No one wants to. I don't want to experience things that I've experienced again, but I wouldn't trade them. And they've made me who I am. And so now I honor those. I'm grateful for them, but that wasn't always the case.

Dr. Jane Levesque [3:48 - 4:42]: Yep. It's beautiful that you say that. So, for those of you who don't know who, Doctor Todd Watts is CEO founder of Cellcore with Doctor J. Davidson, and I actually am working with Doctor Nick, who is in your clinic as well. And one of the reasons for me was to really grasp the products. I knew that they worked, but they have this energetic feel to them as well, where this is different. This isn't just a supplement I'm picking up on the shelf and getting to know you guys. You've been a speaker at Selcor, at the eco event as well. And watching how you guys approach it, I was just like, I got to learn about this. I got to listen to this. I got to figure out what it is, because it seems to be working differently than everything else that I've done before. And I do think it's because it gets down to the frequencies, but also the connection that you make with your patients, that mental and emotional 100%, and.

Dr. Randy Michaux [4:42 - 4:46]: You don't find that often. And that's what I see lacking.

Dr. Jane Levesque [4:46 - 4:48]: There's a huge need for it. It's a huge need for it.

Dr. Randy Michaux [4:49 - 7:43]: Yeah. People want connection. We're so disconnected, and people need connection. They need to feel loved. They need to feel appreciated. And do I do a perfect job of that? No. I'm human, and I screw up, but my heart is so with people, and I love people, and I love learning about them. And then it's very quickly you start to hear language patterns and words, and it's like, why'd you say that word? Why did you say that sentence? What do you mean? I don't know what I even said. Like, here's what you said. Why'd you say that? I have no idea. And then we got to unpack that. And so. But I will say, with these products in my own, if I can just. Where I've. Where I've come from, I'll share that briefly. Um, from the age of 13, that's the first time I tried fasting. The first time when I was, like, 13, it was for church purposes. It wasn't for any detoxing, that biohacking. No, it was for church. We. We fast monthly, and I had a wicked headache, and I was mad at my parents for making me fast. I was mad at everybody. And I just thought that was. Well, that's me. That's just how it is. Of course, I don't feel good. I'm not eating. But then that persisted, and that one headache turned into some headaches every month. And then as I progressed in age, until I progressed in age, I was still super young, right. But I remember my first year in college, I was getting migraines. And these are full on migraines, where ive got to go into a dark room, ive got to disappear. Light sound is just going to set me off. And I would actually hope that I would vomit because it seemed like that would get rid of the migraine and then I would be wiped out for the rest of the day. So I started going to the chiropractor, and it kind of helped, but not really, and went to chiropractic school for different purposes. It wasnt even that. Right. I just thought migraines, everyone has them. Someone told me that everyone has headaches. Its just what you have. You just have to deal with it. But they got worse. And I remember at one point, I was having them weekly, and it so disrupted life, because now here I am, like, cant interact with family that day. Schoolwork, chiropractic school. Like, I cant do any of it. I just have to be in a dark room and dont talk to me. And that was. That was so challenging. And I really felt like, as I began to understand chiropractic im, like, oh, this is going to be the key. This is going to be the thing that helps change it. And then I get into practice, which is a whole other emotional challenge. Trauma on some levels.

Dr. Jane Levesque [7:43 - 7:44]: Yeah.

Dr. Randy Michaux [7:44 - 9:13]: And the migraines intensified, and there was a lot of hypoglycemia with that as well. And I had changed my diet through chiropractic school, learning about things, because I did a lot of work with nutrition and, I mean, Doctor Josh Axe was in my class. Like, I sat across the aisle from him. If anyone knows who he is. And he was huge into nutrition, and we learned a lot from each other, learned a lot from one of our professors. But still, like, these migraines persisted and. And now I am, you know, a year into practice and finding that I have to close my office a couple times, few times a month, and I may be, like, with a patient, finish the patient. All I can do to finish working on that patient before I run out of the dorm vomit. Like, it was that bad. My face. My patient. Are you okay? Are you feeling okay? And I'm faking it, like, yeah, I'm okay. I think. Excuse me. And I'm gone. I'm out the door. Thank goodness. It went to, like, this field. And then I began to recognize, like, there's something. There is something worse going on. There's a different condition. For a while, I was really purposefully probably, or ignorantly blind, thinking I can just chiropractic my way out of this. When my neck gets good enough, then these will go away. And it wasn't until we went to a nature path, and this was now 2008. Nine.

Dr. Jane Levesque [9:13 - 9:13]: Yep.

Dr. Randy Michaux [9:14 - 9:19]: So, still well before, like, the whole biohacking thing took off and all that.

Dr. Jane Levesque [9:19 - 9:19]: Yeah.

Dr. Randy Michaux [9:19 - 10:39]: And I remember she doing some bioenergetic medicine with me, some biofeedback. And shes like, you have every marker thats leading to colon cancer. Im like, im 33 years old. Shes like, you dont have colon cancer, but every marker is going that direction. And then coincidentally, you know, my dad, a few years later, died of colon cancer. His dad died of colon cancer. My dads sister died of. I think it was colon cancer or liver cancer. So its in my history. Does that mean I'm going to get it? No, but if I live that lifestyle, I would continue. And so we drastically. Oh, and so she shared all that. But what she shared, and I wish I would have appreciated this more. You'd think I learned my lesson at this point. I wish I would have listened to her more. She talked about the drainage pathway and shared with me, your liver is a disaster. She says that you. You're not processing anything. Your body can't detox. Your lymphatic system is black, is blocked up. You're definitely not digesting anything. And I could verify that because I saw it all in my stool. And she put me on a program. This is before Cellcore was birthed. There was no cell core at the time.

Dr. Jane Levesque [10:39 - 10:39]: Yeah.

Dr. Randy Michaux [10:40 - 11:43]: Um, and she put me on a. A pretty much a liquid diet that I would say probably saved my life. And what she did a lot of different tinctures, a lot of different frequency. And I look back now and I think the frequency that she gave me was monumental in some of these changes. But that wasn't enough. I still didn't learn my lesson. I began to change, definitely. I had lost 30 pounds. I'm about six four. I weigh about 190, so I had lost 30, 35 pounds. And over the next year and a half, I gained all that muscle and weight back, which was fantastic. Loved it. Continued to do a lot of the nutritional things and still didn't feel called to go that direction. Was still very focused. They even asked, they're like, hey, do you want to come learn how to do this? Come Fridays, we'll teach you how to do this. And I'm like, no, I've got my chiropractic practice. This is what I do, right? I look back now, I'm like, dude, that now would have been amazing anyway.

Dr. Jane Levesque [11:45 - 11:47]: Your soul wasn't ready for it then.

Dr. Randy Michaux [11:47 - 13:24]: It wasn't. It wasn't there. I was not in the place with humility, compassion, non judgment that I needed to be in to be in this place. It wasn't until my dad died and I had to forgive, self, forgive him others for a lot of perceived stuff. And that took me several years, and then met doctor Watts through my sister, and he's like, you should come work with me. And then I did, six years ago almost. And that brings me to now. And that was another life changing event. But it's so interesting how God continues to bring things into our life until we're ready. And it's like, what I love about that is that he'll wait for us and he'll keep presenting it. It's my opportunity to accept it or not. There's no forcing. But I love this. I have this belief that he kept presenting this to me. And finally, when I was ready in the right place, it was fully embracing that. And now, I mean, I'd love working to with people and taking them through chronic illness, but really seeing them make the breakthrough of, I have value. I am a being of light and love, and I am worthy of all things. And I think that's beauty. When people start to reach that point, I think that's when healing seems to take off in different ways, for sure.

Dr. Jane Levesque [13:24 - 13:34]: Yeah. What was the breaking point? Because you said after you did with the naturopath and you gave the muscle back and all of that, but you still had the headaches, did you still have the.

Dr. Randy Michaux [13:34 - 14:58]: No, no, I didn't. I no longer had the health challenges. Like it took me a good year and a half to really digest food. No more headaches. Like I haven't had a migraine now since I was 34. I'm 47 now, maybe 34, 35. Somewhere around there haven't had no more signs of hypoglycemia. That's all gone. So. So I continued on like on myself, working on my own health and nutrition and inflammation, but really never presented that to other people because I was so focused on chiropractic where I was there and there were elements that I would bring in. It was more as information only, not just, hey, you want to transform your life, like here's what you need to do. It wasn't until again, my dad died that then it really hit me. Wow. I am missing a massive component of health. Thinking that I'm going to get people well with chiropractic only. I so believe that it's needed chiropractic. But there's this other side of detox drainage of cleaning out the body and allowing it to thrive that I was kind of blind to. And then began to dive into that with people like Doctor Dan Pompa. And then I met Todd and it was like, wow, this is a whole new world that I get to tap into. So.

Dr. Jane Levesque [14:58 - 15:47]: Yeah, yeah. Well, I always try to describe it that there is the physical, mental and emotional and health is really in the middle and sometimes it's our physical health that brings us to deal with our mental and emotional. And sometimes it's mental and emotional. But if you have b twelve deficiency or parasites, you still have to get rid of the parasites. And I believe that it will. When the body is strong, when there is that physical resiliency, then it's easier to go through some of the mental and emotional stuff that we have to go through and break our beliefs or maybe relive some of our traumas. I'd love to know how you approach your case is and what your beliefs around and even like how do you take your cases on through from hey, I'm really sick to this being of light and joy.

Dr. Randy Michaux [15:47 - 17:32]: Yeah. So one of the things that happened to me early on and this was after my dad. No, this was before my dad passed away. A lot of resentment, a lot of shame. And there were some things that were happening and I remember a patient had shared with me body code, emotion code. Thought it was ridiculous, honestly thought it was like, that's so hokey. But I'm sitting at my desk just feeling this weight of what needed to happen. And I had prayed. I'd been doing a lot of things, and I swear, this chart of emotions, like, just appeared on my desk. I didn't see it. I don't. It was probably already there, but I'm like, what the heck? I might as well do this. It's a tool. I know how to muscle test myself now because I've done a little bit of things. And so. And this is going to get to your question. So I do this work, this emotion, kind of release. All these energies, they all resonated. I'm like, yep, yep, feel that one, that one, that one. And then I finished, and I had this massive weight. I mean, it was palpable. I swear, I felt like I was 20 pounds lighter, even though I wouldn't want to be 20 pounds lighter. And my first thought was, oh, my gosh. This is the most amazing feeling ever. Thank you, God. And then my next thought was, I have to be proficient in this so I can teach this and help other people through this stuff. And so I began to do that with patients. Now, as I work with people, words matter, and I listen very intently to the words they use regarding their condition. Do they own the condition? Is it a condition, or is it. This is me. My Lyme disease, my depression, my.

Dr. Jane Levesque [17:32 - 17:33]: My infertility.

Dr. Randy Michaux [17:33 - 20:39]: My parasite, my infertility, right? All these things, do they own it, or is it just a condition? And for most people, they own the disease. Like, this is mine. This is. This is my label. Uh, it defines me. I have my support groups with it. Don't take away my label, because then where's my support group? I'm no longer accepted. And as I listen to those things, I begin to ask questions to see, where are you coming from? Where did these perspectives come from? Where did this transition? And I find that for many, it's very young that they just pick up. I mean, we're a sponge from, like, age zero to seven, where everything is real, and so words matter. Thoughts, intents, looks, stares, like, whatever we do with our kids. And I'm not. I'm not free of this either. I've got a three year old right now that, like, man, you got to watch what you say. But so, as I listen to that, I start to craft their plan. And part of it is this emotional mindset. And it's more than mindset. It's really like heart set, soul set, this aspect of it where, hey, we're going to be training on this. This. And I'll take people through different exercises to help them gain awareness to the language. They're even using. Right. Oftentimes I'll ask people, what are the questions that you ask yourself? And often what I hear is, why can't I get, well, how am I going to do this? How long is it going to last? Why did this happen to me? Which are questions that you can't answer. Right. Because it did. Sorry. I mean, it's. It's there. And so we'll start to work on better questions, how to ask different questions that are more empowering. But those questions are then going to direct our mind to focus on different things. Now, I can, instead of focusing on, if I ask a question like, how am I ever going to get through this? Well, then what I find is our brain finds every thing that happened in our lifetime that didn't work, and it all is, like, magnified. Well, you know, when you were three years old or in third grade, and you tried this, it failed. And then in 7th grade, this failed and you tried this and it failed. So why even bother? And it's like, I don't want to be in that space. Whereas if we ask different questions, we're going to get better answers and we'll direct our mind to be more empowering. So I. That's a huge component of what I do with people. And then at the same time, it's, okay, what pathways are blocked? How is your lymphatic system doing? What is your liver doing? Are you even pooping? Right. Are you even able to eliminate. And speaking to your audience with men specifically? I mean, the prostate is a repository of toxicity. It's so easy for it to accumulate toxin, which then is going to impact, you know, a lot of things.

Dr. Jane Levesque [20:40 - 20:41]: Quality DNA.

Dr. Randy Michaux [20:42 - 22:44]: Yeah, all that. And then are you mouth breathing or nose breathing? Because that's going to play a huge difference. Right. And so all those things are factored in, and then we start to craft that plan to build that for them, and then we're kind of off. And now it's a process of what do we need to adapt, change, modify? How do we build upon that? But the one piece that is always there is this mental, emotional component of. Of working through perceived or real traumas. Same thing. Whether it happened or not, if it's perception, it's. It's real. And I used to think that was the dumbest thing. I'm like, but it didn't really happen. Like, doesn't matter. If you believe that it happened or that's how you perceived it, then that's how your body is interpreting that. So unlocking those drainage pathways and what I find so interesting is that I go back and think about what Doctor Dory, who. I'm sure she's no longer alive. She was, like, 77 when I worked with her. I find myself often thinking back to, wow. She was the first person that explained drainage. And I wish I had that initial drawing. I don't think I even kept it. I think I don't need this. And I'm like, I wish I had that now. Just as a, you know, something on the computer to say, wow, this was like 2008. There was somebody that was speaking this. And as I was exposed to cellcore and the roadmap to health, I mean, that changed so many things, too, because prior to that, it was, hey, let's. Let's use glutathione, let's build up the cell, and now let's, like, pound this stuff, man. Let's just go at it. Parasites, heavy metals, toxins, and no, that didn't work so well. And it didn't work so well for the people I worked with until I started incorporating the railroad map, which is energy drainage, and then working into more of the parasite toxin. Metals.

Dr. Jane Levesque [22:46 - 24:18]: Yeah. And, you know, I always try to, because my own healing journey. It wasn't until the naturopath who got to know me like, he. I remember that question when he was just like a clinic supervisor because I was just going through school. Was year one a lot of IB's anxiety that caused more of the IB's resistance to weight loss resistance. And he just walked in and he was like, okay, where are you frustrated? Where are you stuck? And I didn't. I knew an answer to that immediately. You know, it was such a simple question, but it was like, at that time, I'm like, I can't find a partner. And he was like, okay, let's talk about that, because it's not. And I remember because it was a clinic supervisor and there was the students in there, and the students were like, what? Like, I didn't know that that was a thing for her because nobody ever asked. Right, right. And then, of course, we looked at the lab work. We looked at. He looked at data. It wasn't just the mental and emotional component. It was really important. And that opened the door for me. It's like a can of worms now. I'm like, okay, I guess I need counseling. I guess I need therapy. I guess I need to actually look deeper into this because I always thought that men were pigs, and that's why I can't attract, you know, it was them, not me. But then I had this roommate who had no issues finding fantastic boyfriends. And then she would dump them and then find another one a month later. And then dump them and find another one later. Obviously, different issue.

Dr. Randy Michaux [24:18 - 24:19]: Right.

Dr. Jane Levesque [24:19 - 24:37]: But that's what got me thinking. Like, wait a minute, I can't even find one. Maybe it's something about me. And that was my first experience of really digging, understanding. And, you know, my IB's went away within. Yeah. I still had to change my diet, but now the supplements worked. You know what I mean?

Dr. Randy Michaux [24:37 - 24:37]: Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Jane Levesque [24:38 - 25:19]: Cause there's times where you're just, like, putting, and I'll invite my patients after to, once they're conceived and they're, you know, in the green zone even, they've already had their babies to just, like, give insight as to what was different. And one of my patients was like, there was a point where you said, there's no amount of tatka that I could give you to go through what you need to go through. And the tatka, I find, really helps because stir things up. But you actually have to admit that there is an energetic and an emotional block, a mental block that you just have to, you know, it's here. It's hard to explain it.

Dr. Randy Michaux [25:20 - 25:46]: It is hard to explain it. And I find, you know, I was, I was working with someone ought to say I was working with someone, and I asked, like, how would it be for you to just sit and just be still? Don't worry about what you have to do later. Just. Just sit? And she's like, I kind of feel anxious with that. Like, a little nauseous.

Dr. Jane Levesque [25:46 - 25:49]: Like, wow, just the thought of that.

Dr. Randy Michaux [25:49 - 27:02]: Just the thought of it. And I'm like, okay, we have a lot to. She's like, I just, I don't do that. And I've had other patients before that tell me the same thing. They're like, no, I don't go there. Like, well, the place you're afraid to go is what's limiting your ability to heal. So until you're ready to go there again, we can give you tudka and, you know, all the good stuff, but you're willing. And I told, I told this one person, like, I can't do it for you. I can't do the breathing. I can't do this for you. You have to be willing to just sit and be and trust the breath, trust that your creator is going to support you through that. And I said, and I even, we even got to the point where I'm like, how about we just set a timer two minutes? Like, you set a timer for two minutes. Turn off your phone, you know, no. No distractions. You won't have any calls in just two minutes. And just sit and be, and then breathe. And we gave her. And I gave her specific ways of breathing to do. And I say, when the timer goes off, you're done. And she was like, you know what? I can get on board with that. I can do that.

Dr. Jane Levesque [27:02 - 27:03]: Yeah, totally.

Dr. Randy Michaux [27:03 - 28:00]: And I didn't. Sometimes I'm like, well, how about three? I didn't even do that. I'm like, no, we're not even going three. Two is good. And so we'll see how she does with that this month. Whereas other people, I've talked about that as well. And often it's more moms than dads, because moms are rushing. Moms are doing everything. They're kind of the quarterback of the house, right. Eyes are on everything. And if there's any challenge, mom's taking care of it. It's just kind of that nature of, if there's a problem, I'm going to take care of it. Husband comes home and men are. I mean, men are. I am a guy. Men are great. We have our weaknesses, our strengths. It's easy just to. No, I'll get to it. You know, whereas, you know, and I've done that before where? Sorry, I digress a little bit, but, like, hey, we vacuum the carpet. Yeah, I will, and I fully intend to, but if I don't do it, like, within two minutes, it's like, okay, I said I was going to do it. I wasn't fast enough, and nothing.

Dr. Jane Levesque [28:00 - 28:04]: Anyway, there's memes about that on the Internet for a reason, you know?

Dr. Randy Michaux [28:04 - 29:04]: Yes, there are, and there are. But going back to that point where it is, it is harder, I think, for women to be still, but that need is massive, and the willingness to sit with things and to, whether you're breathing into it, whether it's through exercise, whether it's through, I mean, whatever thing, I think that's so important that we allow ourselves to just be. And I think gratitude, journaling can all put us in a state where we're. But. But I guess I say all that because that has to be part of the healing journey. It's, you know, we talk about toxicity as being a major cause of why parasites are a major problem, right. Of why bacteria and viruses change. Right. These things that are commensal in us, that we have in our body naturally, and now all of a sudden, theyre not.

Dr. Jane Levesque [29:05 - 29:07]: Yeah. Like H. Pylori pleomorphine. And.

Dr. Randy Michaux [29:08 - 29:41]: Right. And even perhaps Lyme. Right. That you can have people go out. Ten people have Lyme disease. One of them has symptoms. The rest are like, yeah, I'm good. Right, fine. And what is it that shifts that? I think that toxins are a massive component, but I think even before that, there's this emotional aspect, and that's not for everybody, but I do believe that many have that emotional aspect that kind of set their body up for this chronic nature of health.

Dr. Jane Levesque [29:42 - 30:44]: Yeah. Where you're kind of almost. I mean, I want to talk a little bit about the label that you've said. So in my space, very much the label of infertility. And when I'm interviewing my patients to see if I'm going to work with them, I kind of see how flexible they are with that label, because sometimes you don't actually want to get pregnant anymore. It has become who you are, that you are infertile, and that this is how you get love and attention from the world and your family. And that's a really hard label to break, you know? So I'd love to kind of hear your experience of what you do, because Lyme disease or. And, I mean, I'll get chronically ill people, too. Their goal is just to get pregnant where you're almost. Just waiting for the next shoe to drop that you then will have to fix. Right. And that's what you're talking about, is it doesn't, you know, no amount of tatka or Hmat binder or a chelation or whatever it is that you're doing at some point, it's just actually detrimental to the body.

Dr. Randy Michaux [30:44 - 32:04]: Yeah. I think two of the most important words that we use, and then the word after that is actually the most important, is I am right. The word that follows that. And we actually, on our intake forms, maybe they didn't have him. Maybe this wasn't there when you started working with Doctor Nick, but it's there now. And the question is, finish the phrase. Life is people are, because I want to see global beliefs of what they have. And many times, life is hard, a grind, challenging, unfair, and it's like, okay, that's their view of life. And then people are, you know, deceiving, mean, out to get you. It's like, dude, wow, what a. What a perception of life. Even. Even this Sunday school class that I teach 13 year olds, when I first did this with them, I was shocked at the answers. I was thinking, hey, these kids, like, twelve years old, 13, most of them, twelve. Like, it's going to be. Life is fun. Life. No, life is hard. Grind, challenging, mean, unfair. I'm like dude, already from the age of twelve. And so I think awareness is critical. We're not even aware often of what we're even saying.

Dr. Jane Levesque [32:05 - 32:05]: Yep.

Dr. Randy Michaux [32:05 - 35:37]: And, and then when you repeat back to someone, what? No, I didn't, I didn't say that. You know, actually you did. And. Right, actually, or just even talking to people. Right. Why did you use that word? Well, I didn't, I didn't say that. No, actually you did say that. And again, it's coming back to owning the condition, my, whatever, my depression, my illness. And I don't know if there's one way to get out of that. But I think first, having the awareness to recognize what the pattern is. And then the second step is, I think, honoring God within us, knowing that we, and this takes time. Right. This isnt like a, oh, quick thing. Yeah, hes, hes there. No, I think this is something that we really have to dive into to believe that, hey, God created you in a way that you have a purpose, you have a divine purpose and you have talents and goals, but what happens is through chronic illness or through infertility, it's like that takes over instead of the goals or talents that they once experienced or had. It's like, yeah, those things, that's really not important. Like this is the big thing. And those goals might, they're not, they're not good. I was there, right, not so much with infertility, but wanting what other people had. Like what I have is not good enough. I need this other thing. And I would always look at man, if I just, I would use this phrase all the time. If I just, and I didn't realize what I was saying if I just had that, if I just was more like that person, if I, and when I finally recognized what I was saying and my coach, Doctor Fred, was like, do you realize every time you say that, you're telling yourself I'm not enough and I will never be enough. And I was like, no, I'm not. Yeah, actually you are. And then the awareness came of, oh wow, you're right. And it was through a process of, he's like, here, let's repeat a few things. And he would have, he'd had me repeat and then what did I feel like with that thing? I'm like, I don't like that, that's like, that's no good. And you know, and then I would work on other things. I started doing affirmations and then I got to rituals and then incantations where I was using body movement and, you know, changing in my tone and voice and actually, like, bringing that in, where these incantations were, things like, I am powerful, you know, I am loved. I am love. And that all kind of went into this honoring God within me, that he created me to be more than what I see now. And others have seen that, but in others, we do see that in other people, they themselves don't see it. And so if we can learn first to honor, I think, God within ourself, and then comes forgiveness. And that was the second step for me, was accepting forgiveness for myself, for the things that I had done, for the ways that I had judged so many people. And, you know, all the reflection of my own insecurity and, and weakness and. And then really accept that, you know, love for them, too, no matter where they were, place who they were, how they lived. Just really understand what it meant to be non judgmental. I don't have to agree.

Dr. Jane Levesque [35:37 - 35:37]: Yep.

Dr. Randy Michaux [35:38 - 38:05]: But I can still love them. And as I did those things, my language began to change around myself. And I think that that is often what it takes for other people that everyone may say, well, I already believe in God, or I believe in a creator or whatever, the universe, but it's like, but is that in you? Is it there? And are you honoring those gifts and talents that you have that you've been given? And do you even know what they are anymore? And then I think that as people begin to experience that, then it's easier to start to shed the label or to even see themselves as, wow, I have value. Like, I'm not a burden to my family. What is my family gaining from this? I feel like a burden. Right. But am I really? And what lessons has my family learned? What have I learned from this? Where is the good in this? Is there any good that ive seen from it? And I think thats where gratitude comes. And I feel that gratitude is this massive bridge that goes from fear and anxiety, and it takes us to peace. Right. And without that, well stay in that fear and anxiety. So I think those are those first steps to beginning to shed the label that we have to honor God, honor the talents that hes blessed us with, given us, then begin to forgive ourself and others. And it's so interesting in Matthew, right. One of the first commandments. What are the two great commandments? Love God and then love others. As yourself, you have to love yourself. Have to. And so one of the things that I do here every day, I've got a mirror right in front of me, and I love the word magnificent. I heard this from a mentor. He said, my definition of magnificent is to magnify the essence that God has blessed me with. And so I look in the mirror and I put my finger on my chest and I say, I'm magnificent. Yes, right? And it changes my state, it changes my frequency, and that energy matters. Right? And I've asked other people to do that, and they're like, I can't do that. I'm like, it's three words. I am magnificent. You can't. They're like, no, you don't. I'm like, no, I understand what you're saying.

Dr. Jane Levesque [38:05 - 38:08]: I know why you can't do it. Yeah.

Dr. Randy Michaux [38:08 - 38:27]: I'm like, well, what can you say to begin to recognize your worth again? And as some people, I use love, like, appreciate, oh, I can do that one, or I can do like, but I'm not there for love yet. But, um, I think those little things are, are huge.

Dr. Jane Levesque [38:27 - 38:46]: Yeah. Well, I was going to ask you, what do you feel like, what causes for us to identify so hard with our label? Is it what we hear from the age of zero to seven? Is it the conventional system that tells us, oh, you have this and this is who you are? Where do you think that label, that attachment to label comes from?

Dr. Randy Michaux [38:47 - 39:13]: I think it's a combination of the two. I don't think it's one or the other. I mean, clearly from that age of zero to seven, there's so much that's programmed in and where we begin to learn fear and, oh, I shouldn't do that. That person said that was dumb. So does that mean I'm dumb? And this is not being thought of logically, this is just being internalized.

Dr. Jane Levesque [39:13 - 39:14]: Totally. Yeah.

Dr. Randy Michaux [39:14 - 39:53]: And then you see a kid that will be out skipping and chasing butterflies, and then someone says, that's so dumb. Like, that's just childish. Grow up. And, oh, well, okay, maybe I shouldn't do that. Right? And so we, like, die a little, and then I think that as we get older, we die a little more because then it's, well, what are the people going to think of me if I say this, act this way, have these beliefs? And then when we get into the medical system and you're told by someone in authority, well, this is just the way it is. This is your condition.

Dr. Jane Levesque [39:53 - 39:54]: Yeah.

Dr. Randy Michaux [39:54 - 41:39]: It's like, oh, and if you're told that once, maybe you're like, no, I reject that. But when people are told that over and over and you're powerless right. You have no power over this unless you take a medication. You have no power over this unless you. It takes the power away from the person. And again, we just like die a little. And there are those people that just outright reject that. No, I don't. I don't agree with that. I don't believe that. And they automatically go a different direction, but the vast majority, for sure, don't. And it just becomes the narrative. And then their brain, and this is crazy. Again, how their brain works is that as we hear those messages and start to believe it, then our brain is going to create legs for that table and then it's going to create roots and those things go deep into the ground until it's like part of the wiring. And so it's both. And the more that people are, I'll say, prone to just believe what they're told by a physician, the more that's going to be ingrained. And I remember someone telling me, and maybe this was from Tony Robbins, maybe someone else, but they're like, dude, no one's coming to save you. You've got to figure this out for yourself. And clearly, I don't know everything clearly, but it's like, no, you have to take. I have to take responsibility for my stuff and learn as much as I can about what I'm experiencing to then.

Dr. Jane Levesque [41:40 - 41:42]: So nobody's going to help you. It doesn't mean. No.

Dr. Randy Michaux [41:42 - 41:46]: Right, right. No, no, we still need help, but it's like, no, you have to take.

Dr. Jane Levesque [41:46 - 41:49]: The opportunity to find the help. Yeah, yeah.

Dr. Randy Michaux [41:49 - 42:49]: I've got to be proactive in this. I can't. You can't be a passenger when it comes to your own health because then who's driving? Is it western medicine which is going to drive you towards death? Or is it your intuition, what is being breathed into your soul daily? And you may be resisting that, but there are answers there. And I think that when you walk into someone's office, you feel that either coldness or you feel like, wow, this is so inviting, this is the right place. And maybe you don't understand what's being said, and that could be part practitioner with communication, but I think that that intuition and feeling so critical to. And people can be saying all the right stuff, but still, if there's not a connection, it's like, you know, how much am I going to get out of this? Sure.

Dr. Jane Levesque [42:50 - 43:58]: Any insight? Because obviously I deal with a lot of pregnant pregnancies and preconception of kind of passing on some of our generational emotional trauma. Preconception and then through pregnancy, because I always. I mean, personally, it's a belief of. This is why I'm such an advocate for, like, figure out your shit before you start having kids, because you're just gonna pass it on, you know, and whether it's physical health or mental and emotional, you can't. You just have to figure it out. Like, you should just do that anyways because you deserve that. You know, if I take two, exactly the same pregnancies in terms of the same diet, the same lifestyle, exercise, all that jazz, but one person is extremely anxious and overthinks everything versus another is, you know, just joyous, humble, content, grateful. Is that going to be a different baby? And it's like the answer. It's like, yeah, of course it's going to be a different baby because that's. That has a different impact on the physiology as well, but just even how the baby is going to turn out. I'd love to hear your insights on that, if you have any.

Dr. Randy Michaux [43:59 - 44:32]: Yeah, you know, I'll use my personal experience. So this is probably still raw for my wife that we're working. I mean, she's still working through this. So am I. So we have a three year old. He'll be four, actually, next Wednesday, and he was not expected. Right. We had four again, I'm 47. I'll be 48 this year. So will my wife. So minus four years. And we're 43 years old. Right. Our oldest is right now, eleven. So there's a guess. No, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Dr. Jane Levesque [44:32 - 44:34]: The youngest is eleven, so our second youngest is eleven.

Dr. Randy Michaux [44:34 - 44:59]: And now we got a three year old. Right. Our oldest is actually 20, almost 22. It's a huge span there. We were done and then we weren't, and my wife had already had three c sections, so now here's another c section that's coming. Plus, having a baby in your forties is very different than having a baby in your thirties or twenties.

Dr. Jane Levesque [44:59 - 45:00]: Twenties, yeah.

Dr. Randy Michaux [45:00 - 45:56]: Recovery is going to be way slower. And there was a lot of resentment, both for me and for baby, and not that, you know, and I don't judge her for that. She looks back and she's like, gosh, I was such in a bad place. And it's true. I mean, we were both not in a great place. And now, as we see our three year old, almost four year old man, so much of that carries over. Oh. And so then on top of that, he was born, the beginning of COVID He had to be on a ventilator because he stopped breathing at seven minutes old. So to me, that's like, I don't want to be here. Right. He was breathing fine, and then seven minutes hit, and everything just stopped. Like, the nurses, the respiratory therapy doctor and all, they were walking out the door, literally, and then, like, wait, something's going on. What just happened? And he turned blue.

Dr. Jane Levesque [45:57 - 45:57]: Yep.

Dr. Randy Michaux [45:57 - 46:19]: And now he's rushed to, you know, first the little NICU there then had to be rushed to a different hospital. And now, because of COVID restrictions, both of us could not be there with him at the same time. And we couldn't hold him or touch him for, like, four days. So he had no contact, no physical contact. We could see him, couldn't touch him, and then had to leave.

Dr. Jane Levesque [46:20 - 46:48]: And I think people really underestimate how traumatic that is, like, just to get over that. Yeah, I like when I gave birth to my first, they, because my labor was long, like, they had to force up. They didn't put her on me the moment that she was born because they wanted to make sure. And even that I had, and it was like two minutes, maybe Max, but I was just, like, screaming, where is my baby? It's such a traumatic event. I think people really, really underestimate that.

Dr. Randy Michaux [46:49 - 46:49]: Huge.

Dr. Jane Levesque [46:49 - 46:51]: Recover huge.

Dr. Randy Michaux [46:51 - 47:35]: And so he again, had no contact for four days with people. And I can't imagine what trauma that triggered in his body, but he's really been in a sympathetic, like, dominance for the first two and a half, three years of his life. And unfortunately, we did some biofeedback that helped. But there's still a lot of things that I don't feel have integrated within him. And separation anxiety, massive. A lot of emotional up and down. And people can say, oh, that's just three. It's like, no, you know your kid and you see massive up and down.

Dr. Jane Levesque [47:35 - 47:37]: Especially if you've had five more or four more.

Dr. Randy Michaux [47:37 - 49:23]: Well, yeah, we have four others, so we kind of know what they've all been like. And he is the x factor now. Do I believe he can do great things? Absolutely. And I think maybe he's even set up to do great things because of what he's already been able to overcome at the young age of almost four years old. Yeah, um, sure. And that's exciting to kind of think, think about. So to answer your question, yes, it impacts the kid. Does it mean that they're not going to do great things in life? No. They may have to overcome a lot more stuff because of what they're dealt. And as I've done body code and emotion code, and I see the generational stuff that comes up on people. I mean, we're talking six 7910 generations back of and even longer, right? I think the longest one I tested was like 26 generations back. And I forgot what it was. It was a couple years ago. But like, wow, this has held on your family for a long time. And the lady was like, you're telling me. She's like, yeah, we all have this history. And she's like, that's crazy. So yeah, we pass energy, emotion, toxin onto the mom, specifically onto the fetus. And then those first moments, weeks, days, months, I mean, those are huge. And it's hard. There's one guy, I forgot what his name is. I think his last name is Bishop, but he wrote a book called how to unf yourself. And he also wrote one called grow up. And what I really appreciated that he said is that when we're born, we don't realize that we're born into an existing conversation.

Dr. Jane Levesque [49:25 - 49:29]: I love that we are born into an existing conversation.

Dr. Randy Michaux [49:29 - 49:38]: Wow. And that just blew me away. I'm like, oh my gosh, what does it feel like to walk in on a conversation? You have no idea what's going on. You're kind of excluded from that.

Dr. Jane Levesque [49:38 - 49:44]: But you think, poor soul, right? Like just your poor soul you walked into and you have no.

Dr. Randy Michaux [49:46 - 51:43]: And then it's not just the existing conversation between the couple, it's the existing conversation in your own stuff, right? And so kids think that we're supposed to know it all and like, oh, our parents know what to do until they figure out. Parents have no idea what they're doing. What have they done to me? And, and I think that's why we hit 40. 40. And we're like, dude, I gotta figure a lot of stuff out. What's wrong with me? Um, I didn't believe that was true until I did so. But I think it can happen a lot younger, right. If we have the awareness and the parents kind of recognize that and work with their kids on things, um, and communicate and are open with that. And accepting of what the kids feeling, oh my gosh, that can change a family that can change. Like that can be the, the thing that changes the family forever going forwards. But to go back to that, this stuff massively impacts the kids. And then you think of what kids are inundated with now in terms of emotion, social media, scrolling toxicity. I mean, such a toxic environment. And it's amazing that we still persist, which is fantastic. There's a lot to overcome with that. And I think that the more, the harder we push and maybe sometimes the more stubborn that person is, maybe the better, because it's like, I'm not settling for what the answer is. And that person is going to do some amazing stuff. It may. They may have a lot of bumps in the road, a lot of challenges, but it's like they're gonna do something incredible. And I think people in this space have. Have done that. Like, no one is in this space because this would be a really cool thing to do. This would just be a lot of fun to work.

Dr. Jane Levesque [51:43 - 53:18]: People really forget that, though. They'll see. They'll look at you and they say, look at this 40, some guy. He's so fit, he's so healthy. He's never had any issues. I had. They'll look at me and say, she's never had any issues. That's why I think it's important. Like, I share my story on my website. I share my story on the social media. I show the pictures of me being overweight, you know, and obviously, you can't show the pictures of ib's, but it was just like, you could see it, how trapped I was. It wasn't because I chose, you know, it felt like this was the only option. And then once you're in, it's, you know, welcome to the dark side kind of thing. And you can't. You can't go back. Once the awareness is there, you can't unsee it. You can't unlearn. And, I mean, to me, it's like, you have to persist. And, you know, the reason that I stay with the kids, because I had those two different experiences as well, like, it was so traumatic in the pregnancy, like, no appreciation the first time versus the second time where I was like, I think I can do this better. Not even that I think I can do this better. I just crave a different experience. And my connection with the two girls is so different. And there is a lot of sadness and, like, self forgiveness that I still continue have to do because I didn't do the prep work for my first. And so it is important to continue to practice that self forgiveness, because it's like, if you would have known better, you would have done better. And that really helped me. So for anyone who's listening and you're starting to feel guilty for all the things that you didn't do, it's like, just stop yourself right there and know that if you would have known better, you would have done better. But once you do know, it's time to, you know, take it into your own hands.

Dr. Randy Michaux [53:18 - 53:30]: And I think that you know, it's also, we live in a very masculine society just how it is, right? And that's.

Dr. Jane Levesque [53:30 - 53:32]: It's like toxic masculinity.

Dr. Randy Michaux [53:32 - 53:50]: And I wouldn't even say that. I would just say masculine in the sense of, you know, you look at, you look at, like in the past, mental, like, you're not sharing a whole lot, right? Not health, a lot of emotion, very passionate about. About things. But it's like, you know what? Just get up like, you're fine.

Dr. Jane Levesque [53:51 - 53:51]: Totally.

Dr. Randy Michaux [53:52 - 54:38]: Stop it. You know, stop crying. I'll give you something to cry about. Whatever. All that kind of stuff. I heard all that. But I think with just this generation, it's definitely changing. And I think that there is a component where we need to allow ourselves to feel. It's so. And I think women especially are told, you know, you're just emotional. It's like, well, okay, yeah, we are emotional beings. And when you deny that of even yourself, like, that's stupid. I shouldn't feel that. Why am I feeling that way? That's so dumb, you know, stop crying. Well, why? Maybe you need to express that and need someone in your life that can just sit with you, not that you want to wallow in that for, like, you know, time.

Dr. Jane Levesque [54:38 - 54:39]: Yeah, for sure.

Dr. Randy Michaux [54:40 - 56:12]: But there's a need to feel what we're feeling and to accept it. Because if we keep resisting, man, it's just going to persist. And I don't think that the guilt is, is healthy, but we can look back and say, man, you know, I was really struggling and I can accept that again, have an acceptance for it. It doesn't mean that you and I think that's another, not just awareness, but, like, accept the world that you have created, right? You have part in it. It's your life. You've created this world around you, in you, through you. And I think really, once that acceptance happens, then the ability to begin to love and take responsibility and because without, without love, responsibility can be like, well, yeah, man, I'm the worst person in the world, so I'm going to punish myself. But when you add that love component to it and take responsibility, so now I can take responsibility in love, then we can grow. But I think that acceptance of this is what I created. This is what happened. This is what was, this is what is okay. And maybe have a good cry, maybe. Maybe a few cries, maybe, you know, writing down, like, all the crap that you experience and then just be like, wow, I have the opportunity now to create something new, to create something different. And that's hard. Because it looks different. Never done it.

Dr. Jane Levesque [56:13 - 56:17]: First question is maybe never seen it. Never seen anybody do it either. Right?

Dr. Randy Michaux [56:17 - 57:50]: And so I would just say the first question that you ask should not be how? Because you don't know how. You could ask, who, what do I want and why do I want it? And then if you really understand your what and why, the how's going to start to come. It's just going to show up and you'll start to walk into that light, and then more light opens up and then you have, okay, what else? Why do I want that? And like that, why becomes, I'll say. I'll say bigger in terms of expansiveness, but it also becomes more focused. And like, I have laser light focus. And this is how big this is. So there's so many layers to it and it's so fun and it's. It's life. Like someone, I think maybe my wife and I were talking about this. No, it was her. And she came to the realization, why would I expect to feel anything different? This is what I'm going through, so that this vision that I have in my mind can actually happen. If I'm not going through this, I can't let go and see the person within that is then going to shine and be a light for this population of people that she would love to talk to. And that realization, oh, my gosh, how freeing is that? But it's taken a long time to get to and. But that doesn't matter. It's where she needs to be now. And, you know, having patience through the process.

Dr. Jane Levesque [57:50 - 59:13]: Having patience through the process. I actually had, like, an astrological reading on my birth chart. And I was fascinated how much information, like both my husband and I did it, and then we did it for our daughter as well because we wanted to understand her more. We have a harder time connecting with her. And it was really insightful, but I was just shocked of how much information he could tell about me or about my husband just by looking at the birth date, the location, the time that you were born and how the stars and the moon and all the planets were aligned and what that means about you and your spiritual journey. And he calls it, it was very cool. It's just like, we have this spiritual curriculum. You don't have to fill it if you don't want to, but it is there. And so here's some things that are showing up, and you can work on it towards it. And you're really set up for this in your life right now. So if you want to do that, you can. For example, for me, there was a lot of speaking and leadership that showed up. It's like, you should get on stages. I was like, fantastic. I already planned to do that. So it was incredible because he could just see it in the chart. And I'm like, this is so much more than what I think the, you know, my little. In my. In my basement, in my office, I'm here working away. It's like there's so much bigger plan, and it's. It's hard to grasp it, you know?

Dr. Randy Michaux [59:14 - 59:17]: Yeah. And we don't. And you don't have to grasp it all at once.

Dr. Jane Levesque [59:17 - 59:17]: That's it.

Dr. Randy Michaux [59:17 - 59:22]: You just take a little bit at a time. You can kind of see the big picture, which can be a little scary sometimes, for sure.

Dr. Jane Levesque [59:22 - 59:22]: Yeah.

Dr. Randy Michaux [59:23 - 59:50]: And I think intimidating. I think that's good to have a little bit of, like, uncertainty because we need resistance to work through. If it was just easy, it would be like, we wouldn't value it. But when you have that little bit of resistance, or sometimes a lot of resistance, and then you get to that place or embrace more of that, it's like, dude, I'm so grateful for the journey. What an amazing, like, trip like that was. What's the next one?

Dr. Jane Levesque [59:50 - 1:00:02]: That's the next one. It's coming. Yeah, it's coming. There's always the next one. Well, thanks so much, doctor Randy, for sharing your knowledge in your journey. It's wonderful. Where can people find you?

Dr. Randy Michaux [1:00:03 - 1:00:32]: So they can find us on Instagram at total body wellness clinic. Facebook. The same. Our website is totalbody wellnessclinic.com. I have a podcast that you're going to be on in a couple of weeks. Restore the real. And then if people are interested, I have a Facebook group called Empower Act Heal that, you know, we teach weekly in there, and that's just a great community. So those are the places that you can find me.

Dr. Jane Levesque [1:00:33 - 1:00:40]: Amazing. Thank you. Anything that you feel that we maybe didn't cover or you would like to, a parting thought.

Dr. Randy Michaux [1:00:41 - 1:01:41]: You know, I think I would just say, remember that you are greater than what you think. Right. That there's so. I believe that there's divinity within each of us. Sometimes it's harder to see than others. And we doubt, however, in knowing that it's there and trusting in the process. Trusting in, like, each of these little voyages that make up our journey in life and seeing the good, seeing the love, seeing gratitude, I think those things are critical to really dive into that divinity and to be able to see the real person there. It's not about gaining. This is what I feel. I think this is what I've really come to know. It's not about what I need to get or gain. It's about what I need to let go. So that, again, that essence shines.

Dr. Jane Levesque [1:01:42 - 1:01:42]: Sure.

Dr. Randy Michaux [1:01:43 - 1:01:52]: I think that's critical. So what do you need to let go to allow your essence and light to shine for yourself, your family and others?

Dr. Jane Levesque [1:01:52 - 1:01:59]: Yep. It's not so much about what you need to be doing, it's what you need to stop doing sometimes. Right?

Dr. Randy Michaux [1:01:59 - 1:02:00]: Sometimes. Yeah.

Dr. Jane Levesque [1:02:00 - 1:02:01]: That's right.

Dr. Randy Michaux [1:02:01 - 1:02:01]: Yeah.

Dr. Jane Levesque [1:02:01 - 1:02:03]: Thanks so much, doctor. Randy, I appreciate you.

Dr. Randy Michaux [1:02:03 - 1:02:07]: You're welcome. Thanks for having me on. It was so, such an awesome conversation.

Dr. Jane Levesque [1:02:07 - 1:02:08]: Thank you.

Dr. Randy Michaux [1:02:08 - 1:02:09]: Okay. Blessings.