Hey, I'm Bruce Weinstein, and this is the podcast Cooking with Bruce and Mark.
Speaker:And I'm Mark Scarbrough, and together, Bruce and I have, well, been married
Speaker:27 years, but also published 36 cookbooks, not counting the ones
Speaker:for celebrities that we ghost wrote, which we can't really talk about.
Speaker:Dr.
Speaker:Phil.
Speaker:Because of confidentiality.
Speaker:And Stonewall Kitchen.
Speaker:Yes, exactly.
Speaker:Or Dr.
Speaker:Mike Moreno.
Speaker:Which I think all those books are out of print, so I am
Speaker:assuming the confidentiality agreements don't work anymore.
Speaker:Those expire eventually anyway.
Speaker:Don't they?
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:We'd have to talk to our literary agent.
Speaker:Anyway, we've written a lot of our own books.
Speaker:Plus books for other people.
Speaker:Fixed a lot of books.
Speaker:Oh my gosh, those are stories.
Speaker:We should tell you those stories about Fixing cookbooks sometime.
Speaker:That's an amazing job to have it.
Speaker:We don't really do it anymore because it's so tearing on the nerves.
Speaker:I mean, I don't mean wearing, I mean, tearing, like your nerves are
Speaker:ripped to shreds by the end of it.
Speaker:Anyway, this is our food and cooking podcast, which we do every week.
Speaker:We have got a one minute cooking tip as we always do in this episode.
Speaker:We're going to be in the kitchen.
Speaker:I have developed a coconut curry that I.
Speaker:Absolutely love.
Speaker:I've kind of based this off some other recipes and turned it into my own.
Speaker:And we're going to watch us do this.
Speaker:Listen to us do this in the kitchen.
Speaker:And then we'll tell you what's making us happy in food this week.
Speaker:So let's get started.
Speaker:Our one minute cooking tip is about a secret ingredient.
Speaker:Worcestershire sauce.
Speaker:I know that's not such a big secret, but it is, if you use it,
Speaker:it's in the US.
Speaker:It's not in the UK.
Speaker:It adds a touch of salt, sweet, and umami to everything from
Speaker:salad dressings to dipping sauces.
Speaker:Put a few dashes into your next stew or braise.
Speaker:Use it in anything you make with tomatoes, with chilies, put it
Speaker:in any soup, it'll be so good.
Speaker:Yeah, I, I, we, we go to this Costco, uh, by us, and this Costco
Speaker:has a large Asian and Korean population that are in the store.
Speaker:And we were in there the other day and they were, they were selling wrapped all
Speaker:up, you know, shrink wrap together for giant bottles of Worcestershire sauce.
Speaker:And I don't mean the kind you buy in the supermarket.
Speaker:I mean, these are giant bottles.
Speaker:And I thought, Oh, this is catering right to that Asian audience.
Speaker:Who's using Worcestershire sauce as a dumpling dip.
Speaker:If you don't know, you can make your own, ah, you can go out to
Speaker:YouTube to guess what our channels called cooking with Bruce and Mark.
Speaker:Um, you can watch me make homemade Worcestershire sauce.
Speaker:I make this all the time for Bruce.
Speaker:Um, I've made it so much for friends and given it as gifts.
Speaker:In fact, that recipe has gotten a long.
Speaker:Life play online with people making it all over the world.
Speaker:I worked really hard on that recipe for Worcestershire sauce and check it out.
Speaker:I'm cooking with Bruce and Mark.
Speaker:It's, it's a great marinade just for a steak slathered on the grill.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Before we get to the kitchen and go in there and make.
Speaker:This crazy curry that I have come up with.
Speaker:I want to say that perhaps you should consider subscribing to this podcast
Speaker:and even better rating or liking it, or even best of all, writing a review.
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Speaker:That is the way that in fact, you can support what we do here every week,
Speaker:which is blather on and bad food.
Speaker:And in this case, make a recipe from scratch, a recipe that
Speaker:we both have come to love.
Speaker:So let's get in the kitchen and get working.
Speaker:Mark made this dish for me a few weeks ago, and I just so fell in love
Speaker:with it that we had a friend who's going through a medical procedure.
Speaker:And I even said to mark bad medical and having brain surgery.
Speaker:And I said to Mark, make this again tomorrow morning and we will bring
Speaker:it over to them before he goes to the hospital so they will have food
Speaker:in the freezer when they come home.
Speaker:And he did.
Speaker:And it was delicious.
Speaker:And it's so easy because we're standing in the kitchen in front of him.
Speaker:Our turbo blender in Vitamix and basically this is going to take
Speaker:the Vitamix, it's going to take a cutting board and knife and it's
Speaker:going to take a pan and that's it.
Speaker:It's really an easy recipe.
Speaker:So what we're going to start is that we're going to make the sauce in the Vitamix.
Speaker:Now let me also say you can use other blenders, but there's a problem here.
Speaker:A turbo blender, like a Blendtec or a Vitamix works best because it's something
Speaker:that's going to go inside of it.
Speaker:Uh, that is.
Speaker:a carrot, which is hard to grind up, and you're going to try to
Speaker:grind this up into a smooth sauce.
Speaker:You can use a Nutribullet, but you're going to have to cut the
Speaker:carrot down into smaller pieces to get it to fit into that smaller
Speaker:Nutribullet, and don't forget about leakage with this amount of material.
Speaker:My other suggestion, if you're using a standard blender that doesn't have
Speaker:the power of those others, is to grate the carrot with a box grater.
Speaker:That'll help it.
Speaker:It still won't get pureed, but it'll get way, way, way down to tiny pieces.
Speaker:So here's what I'm going to do.
Speaker:I'm going to put an entire bunch of stemmed cilantro.
Speaker:And I just bought this cilantro at the supermarket.
Speaker:It's the standard stuff.
Speaker:I just bought a bunch of it.
Speaker:And it's, you know, the kind you get wrapped together.
Speaker:And what I've done is I've chopped off the woody ish stems toward the bottom.
Speaker:And then let me say, there's an extra step here.
Speaker:Filled a big bowl with water and I put the cilantro, the trimmed cilantro
Speaker:in it and the sand, I agitated it a few times and the dirt on the
Speaker:cilantro, the cilantro is very sandy, has sunk to the bottom of the bowl.
Speaker:So now if I just reach in here and grab up all this cilantro floating around this
Speaker:bowl, you can throw it into the blender.
Speaker:Don't worry about drying yet.
Speaker:Water attached is fine.
Speaker:All of that, just get as much of it outta the bowl as you can.
Speaker:I'm mean get every list and we could see the sand in the bottom of the bowl.
Speaker:And trust me, if you have ever used cilantro without washing
Speaker:it, you've probably put so much grit in your guess now.
Speaker:Yeah, of it's gross.
Speaker:Okay, so what else do we put in here?
Speaker:So I am opening a can, a 400 gram can of full fat coconut milk.
Speaker:Don't skimp, don't use light coconut milk.
Speaker:If all you could find is coconut cream, you could do that and
Speaker:then thin it out a little bit.
Speaker:So it's like the texture of buttermilk.
Speaker:So for our US audience, we're talking like a 14, 15 ounce can, right?
Speaker:Yeah, that's about right.
Speaker:Yeah, that's about right.
Speaker:Let's see, you can, you can go.
Speaker:over or under on this coconut mix and I'm going to kill it.
Speaker:It's very flexible.
Speaker:Full fat is what's important.
Speaker:Okay, after Bruce gets that in there, I'm going to add
Speaker:three tablespoons of soy sauce.
Speaker:This is one of the two primary salt vehicles for the dish.
Speaker:You can use reduced sodium soy sauce if you want to.
Speaker:Don't worry about it.
Speaker:You do not have to use a high end brand.
Speaker:And then I'm going to also plop in here.
Speaker:Two to three peeled garlic cloves.
Speaker:How garlicky do you want it?
Speaker:I'm putting two in because I don't like it terribly garlicky,
Speaker:but you put in what you want.
Speaker:Two to three, you can even go up to four.
Speaker:It won't matter, but it'll just get really garlicky.
Speaker:Okay, what else?
Speaker:Because we're using our turbo blender, I'm putting a carrot in just by breaking
Speaker:it in half and putting the two pieces in.
Speaker:Now let me say, if you don't know this, you don't have to peel your carrot.
Speaker:Carrots get a little bit of a skin on them as they kind of sit in storage.
Speaker:If it The skin is really rough.
Speaker:Then take it off or dirty, you know, or dirty.
Speaker:I washed this carrot and I didn't peel it, but it didn't have very
Speaker:much in the way of skin on it.
Speaker:So I just washed it, cut off the top, cut off the little bitty bottom
Speaker:bit, and it's gone right in there.
Speaker:And now here come the juice of two limes and limes.
Speaker:There's a trick to buying limes.
Speaker:Why don't you talk about that?
Speaker:When you pick up a lime and you know you're going to want it for juice,
Speaker:it shouldn't be hard as a rock.
Speaker:It should give a little, the skin should feel a little thin and
Speaker:you should be able to press it.
Speaker:That way, you know, you will get a juicy lime.
Speaker:If there's a technical term in bartending for a lime that you open
Speaker:that you can can't get any juice out of like trying to get blood out of a
Speaker:turnip and it's called a dusty lime.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:When I, that was my, that was my AOL.
Speaker:That was his AOL handle.
Speaker:Before we even met in person, we met in an AOL chatroom, and it was Dusty Lime, and
Speaker:I honestly thought that was a porn name.
Speaker:Dusty Lime, so, okay.
Speaker:And it was a bartending term, but I thought it was a porn name.
Speaker:Okay, no wonder I went for you.
Speaker:Anyway, uh, the juice of two limes, and then I want you to put about a tablespoon,
Speaker:um, you know, this is again by taste, but about a tablespoon of white miso paste.
Speaker:That's just the plain, standard Miso paste.
Speaker:You don't have to go crazy.
Speaker:You don't use red.
Speaker:You want the white stuff.
Speaker:It's usually labeled mild white miso, and that's exactly what you want.
Speaker:And then we have a small piece, like a one inch piece of fresh ginger.
Speaker:Yeah, about a thumb size, like the end of your, like, you
Speaker:know, thumb to your knuckle.
Speaker:Which in my hand is an inch, and I am actually, I peeled this only because
Speaker:this ginger wasn't The freshest and I didn't want that dried out skin
Speaker:in there.
Speaker:I
Speaker:would peel it.
Speaker:I mean, if you go to an Asian market and get ginger, sometimes the skin
Speaker:is, it's like carrots and they develop a skin over time as they sit.
Speaker:Um, sometimes the skin is so thin, it just comes off with your fingernail.
Speaker:But yes, I did.
Speaker:And the same thing here, about the same size piece of fresh.
Speaker:turmeric.
Speaker:And this I also have peeled because it is sat in the health
Speaker:food store counter for a while.
Speaker:So about a thumb size piece of fresh turmeric.
Speaker:If you've never used fresh turmeric, it is bright orange, just like
Speaker:the color of dry powder turmeric.
Speaker:It's really kind of cool.
Speaker:And it might stain your fingers when you peel it.
Speaker:So if you have, you know, surgical gloves, you could put
Speaker:them on, but you don't need to.
Speaker:So what you're also going to want to put in here is a
Speaker:stemmed fresh Hot green chili.
Speaker:I am using a Thai long, one of those bird's eye long, thin chilies.
Speaker:They're gonna be super hot.
Speaker:You can use a jalapeno, you can use a serrano for less heat.
Speaker:And we're keeping the seeds in it.
Speaker:Yeah, we're doing everything.
Speaker:If you don't like the heat, you can take, you can, you know, um, what
Speaker:am I saying, divide it in half.
Speaker:And, uh, pull out the seeds, remember to wash your hands afterwards with soapy
Speaker:water to get the hot stuff off, preferably first rinsing your hands with a little
Speaker:oil because the hot stuff is dissolvable in oil, not water, and then washing them.
Speaker:We're not doing that.
Speaker:I just cut the stem off and we're putting the whole chili in.
Speaker:And then a little ground coriander.
Speaker:I'd say maybe a teaspoon, teaspoon and a half, and less ground allspice.
Speaker:About a half a teaspoon of that.
Speaker:Yeah, about a half a teaspoon of ground allspice.
Speaker:And that's it.
Speaker:Now we're going to put the top on the blender.
Speaker:We're making the sauce, remember?
Speaker:This is it.
Speaker:This is what's going to go in the pan as our curry sauce.
Speaker:So now we're putting the top on the blender with all that
Speaker:cilantro and carrots and all.
Speaker:And here we go.
Speaker:I actually edited out some of that blending because it did take about 30
Speaker:seconds and there's no reason you needed to listen to 30 seconds of the blender.
Speaker:After we banged on so long about the ingredients.
Speaker:So now this is so smooth, it's ridiculous.
Speaker:It will take you much less time for, uh, the sauce at home than
Speaker:it will to listen to us make it.
Speaker:So, cause we've just really blathered.
Speaker:You already have, you'd have had dinner and gone to bed.
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:So now what you want to do is you want to take a large high sided skillet
Speaker:or saute pan and you want to pour this into it, scrape out the whole
Speaker:blender, get everything into the pan and now put it over medium heat.
Speaker:Now here's a little bit of a problem because there are so many
Speaker:solids in here like the carrot solids and the cilantro solids.
Speaker:I know they look pureed and they look smooth, but they
Speaker:really are still in there.
Speaker:You're going to need to stir this, not all the time, but yeah, almost all the time.
Speaker:In a recipe, we would say stirring often or very,
Speaker:stirring quite often.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So what I want to do is I'm going to bring this up to a simmer and
Speaker:I get this to a simmer and it doesn't take very long because it's.
Speaker:It's really thick and fatty, which also helps it come to a simmer quickly.
Speaker:And now what I'm going to add to it as it comes to a simmer is I've got a pound
Speaker:of diced firm tofu on this cutting board.
Speaker:I have got a large red bell pepper that I have cored, seeded and chopped.
Speaker:Can you buy pre chopped bell pepper?
Speaker:Of course.
Speaker:And I got about a cup, a cup and a half somewhere in there.
Speaker:of, um, small broccoli florets.
Speaker:I bought pre chopped broccoli florets.
Speaker:Yes, I'm that lazy.
Speaker:I bought that.
Speaker:So once this sauce is simmering, you want to scrape all of that
Speaker:into the pan and then just keep stirring it, mixing all that in.
Speaker:You want to simmer this about five minutes.
Speaker:Now, let me tell you something about this.
Speaker:If you don't want a vegan dinner, you can take this tofu
Speaker:out and substitute one pound.
Speaker:of boneless, skinless chicken breasts that have been diced.
Speaker:So, chop them into, you know, oh, half, three quarter inch pieces.
Speaker:And you can put that in there as well if you don't want a vegan dinner.
Speaker:Um, either way, the point here is just to either cook the chicken through
Speaker:or heat up the tofu in the sauce.
Speaker:This doesn't take very long at all.
Speaker:And at the end of this, we are done.
Speaker:We are actually, the dish is now complete after it's
Speaker:simmered for about five minutes.
Speaker:And we've stirred it a bit.
Speaker:We serve this with a big heaping spoonful of brown rice on the side.
Speaker:What else can we serve this with?
Speaker:You can actually ladle this over cooked rice noodles, which I think
Speaker:would be another delicious thing.
Speaker:But the brown rice is really good.
Speaker:And I just want to add that if you change the tofu out for chicken, you'll have to
Speaker:go a little bit more than five minutes.
Speaker:Part of that is because the chicken gives off liquid and the tofu doesn't.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So you want to, you want to.
Speaker:Thicken, make sure it doesn't get too watery.
Speaker:You know, you're not gonna get a cornstarch thickened or
Speaker:a flour thickened sauce here.
Speaker:It's just gonna vaguely thicken.
Speaker:Yeah, it's so rich though, it's good.
Speaker:And you want to serve this thing in bowls because it's kind of soupy curry.
Speaker:Um, and the cilantro is really fresh and it's really great.
Speaker:We've, um, actually made an edit here, and we've stepped away from the stove, and we
Speaker:let it cool down for a second, and we're gonna taste it, and we don't actually
Speaker:have any brown rice here with us today.
Speaker:I'm just digging my spoon into it.
Speaker:We're just doing it in the kitchen in the pot, but, um
Speaker:Mmm.
Speaker:It's so rich.
Speaker:It's really good.
Speaker:You can make this for dinner.
Speaker:You can make this for dinner for me anytime.
Speaker:It's so
Speaker:rich and decadent.
Speaker:If you want to see us make this recipe, you can check out our TikTok channel.
Speaker:Or Instagram Reels.
Speaker:Sorry, I'm still eating.
Speaker:Um, guess what it's called.
Speaker:Cooking with Bruce and Mark.
Speaker:Or Instagram Reels.
Speaker:Under either our names.
Speaker:We have a video of my making this dish.
Speaker:Not out of this podcast, but in a separate way.
Speaker:Just making it on air and serving it to Bruce.
Speaker:You can see that video there.
Speaker:Check it out.
Speaker:I really encourage you to make this dish because it's so easy.
Speaker:Can you make this coconut milk, uh, carrot cilantro sauce early in the day?
Speaker:You can.
Speaker:The problem is if you stick it in the fridge, it's going to chill
Speaker:down and even thicken up a bit.
Speaker:You may have to thin it out a little bit and it's certainly going to
Speaker:take longer to come to a simmer than my room temperature stuff did.
Speaker:Yeah, but whatever it takes, it's worth it because this is one of
Speaker:the most Comforting, satisfying, delicious and simplest dinners.
Speaker:You might want to serve it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You might want to actually serve it with another squeeze of fresh lime wedges.
Speaker:You could even put a little sriracha on the top if you want it hotter.
Speaker:You can, you can, um, red chili oil, you know, Chinese red chili oil.
Speaker:If you want to go nuts, you can put a little chili crisp on it.
Speaker:Any of those things will make it better.
Speaker:You can dollop a little bit.
Speaker:Here we go back.
Speaker:to Worcestershire sauce.
Speaker:You can dabble a little Worcestershire sauce on it.
Speaker:Remember that Worcestershire is salty and you've put soy sauce
Speaker:and miso in this, which are salty.
Speaker:Anyway, all of that makes this incredibly savory, delicious, easy
Speaker:curry that doesn't use curry powder.
Speaker:Can you fathom that?
Speaker:Okay, next up in our podcast, what's making us happy, besides
Speaker:this curry, in food this week?
Speaker:I have had My first grapefruit of the season, a little late in the season,
Speaker:and it's making me very happy and I,
Speaker:I have to, I look forward to citrus season in the winter
Speaker:here in the northern hemisphere,
Speaker:here's what happened for years.
Speaker:I couldn't eat them because my statins for cholesterol.
Speaker:You can't, but my doctor changed my statin.
Speaker:In my day we didn't worry about statins.
Speaker:Well, and now I'm on one that doesn't, isn't affected by grapefruit.
Speaker:So I'm back to eating grapefruits and it's a little disgusting
Speaker:because I dissect them.
Speaker:You do.
Speaker:First.
Speaker:I have to, I have to avert my eyes.
Speaker:First I peel it, then I use a paring knife to scrape all the white pith
Speaker:off of that orb of peeled grapefruit.
Speaker:Then I separate them and I use the same paring knife to peel all the membranes
Speaker:off and I pick off the supremes, just that pulp sack mass that makes my
Speaker:eyes because he's too much like anatomy and I can't deal with it.
Speaker:And I just eat the white pulp and all and I don't really get this
Speaker:whole thing, but okay, whatever.
Speaker:Um, yeah, grapefruits are amazing and citrus season is always a big
Speaker:time in our house because we are so thrilled when clementines come in
Speaker:fresh and many Olos and What are those?
Speaker:Honey, honey, bells
Speaker:and sumos are my favorite.
Speaker:We're always thrilled when all that comes into the supermarkets and
Speaker:we start eating citrus like crazy.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:What's making me happy.
Speaker:And food this week is very different from all of that.
Speaker:It says that Bruce makes, Oh gosh, I would almost say twice a month.
Speaker:at this point, because I asked for it so much, and it is a
Speaker:Korean stew called kimchi jjigae.
Speaker:And I'm probably pronouncing it all wrong.
Speaker:I'm sure jjigae or jjigae is not the way you say it.
Speaker:It's kimchi and then J J I G A E in English.
Speaker:I'm sure kimchi is probably not pronounced correctly.
Speaker:I'm sure it's not either.
Speaker:What it is, is a stew traditionally made with a fatty cut of meat.
Speaker:pork.
Speaker:It's got a ton of kimchi in it, a ton of onions, and it's got Korean
Speaker:spice paste and ground Korean chilies.
Speaker:And you just let this simmer with tofu forever on the stove.
Speaker:It to me is sour and hot and spicy is one of my Absolutely favorite things that
Speaker:actually to be completely inauthentic.
Speaker:We just started making it with fatty cuts of beef like
Speaker:oxtail and crosscut short ribs.
Speaker:And we actually both like it better with beef.
Speaker:Isn't that funny?
Speaker:I do.
Speaker:And those crosscut short ribs are called flunkin.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I actually, if I'm doing it with flunkin or with, uh, oxtails.
Speaker:I put those in the pressure cooker in the instant pot first, and I let the meat get
Speaker:all tender, and then I strain and defat the liquid, and that ends up being the
Speaker:liquid that goes into the kimchi jjigae.
Speaker:To make it a little more semi authentic, I add some dashi powder,
Speaker:which gives it an anchovy base.
Speaker:Very unauthentic.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Now you just have made it.
Speaker:Portuguese y or Japanese y or something.
Speaker:Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker:Who cares about authenticity when it's delicious?
Speaker:Yeah, who cares about it when it's delicious?
Speaker:You can check out a million recipes for this on Instagram Reels or on TikTok.
Speaker:Just look up, you know, kimchi pork.
Speaker:Korean stew and you'll see it kimchi jjigae and it is so tasty I ask for
Speaker:it constantly particularly in the winter because it's such comfort food.
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