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welcome to another episode of catching

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up with Katie we're in a little bit of a

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different location which I guess is new

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for us because we had a location and

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then last week we were in Tulsa and this

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week uh we actually have people staying

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in our Airbnb so we got kicked out but

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that's okay we were out on the porch of

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the Airbnb but let me know if you like

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us changing up the destination I think

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it might be cool on catching up with

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Katie we basically just kind of have a

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little catch-up segment about what's

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happened in the last week and we also

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sometimes do Q&A questions from Facebook

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and YouTube and Instagram and all those

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things and sometimes we just pick topics

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to talk about so my lovely co-host

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Abigail web over here um would you like

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to start us off

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um you how about you start us off with

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the recap the recap yep I mean from the

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last one which was in Tulsa mhm we had

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already said that I don't even think we

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talked about Pico being

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born we we we did a little bit I think

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because I think we did it on Saturday

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night and he was born Friday night so

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Pico has been definitely like the

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highlight of the week just seeing him be

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the cutest thing I've ever seen in my

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life um and then the rest has just been

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kind of like you know getting back at

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the swing of things not being out of

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town um I don't really think anything

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crazy has happened this week the only

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thing is like we have a bunch of people

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in town right now due to the fact that

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Tennessee has a velvet hunt so that

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means like a a really early season deer

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hunt for just one weekend so a lot of

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our out of town friends are here hunting

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and staying with us and that's a really

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fun time so other than that I don't

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really think there's anything going on

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no buzz got a buck apron yeah um he's

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trying to he's been trying to wiener his

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mom so that's the only other

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thing yeah so we're g to talk about

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books books going to talk about books

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that's the topic that is the topic so

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that that's another thing I never know

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what we're going to freaking talk about

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like they just they they scheme and they

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come up with their questions and their

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topics and I don't I'm just left in the

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dark

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so got a little we've got

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a a surprise in store I'm going to ask

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you about later but I guess if you want

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to just talk about like I don't know

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like we've kind of touched on this

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before so you tell me the topic and then

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I just have to talk about it yes I say

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the topic and then you make

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20 minutes of conversation

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about well I okay so I think what I

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think what everyone started talking

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about books is because in the last one

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we had mentioned we made Nate read a

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nasty book through 100 Pages spicy spicy

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book it it was a little nasty I refuse

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to tell you which book it was everyone

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wants to know I will not be subjected to

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that judgment I'm so sorry some things

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are meant to be private um um so no you

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will not find out you can speculate in

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the comments but you will not get any

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kind of confirmation um but yeah I mean

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that's he did finish his 100 Pages he

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did and uh he was horrified I saw

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someone someone wanted like a quick like

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review of what you thought of it if you

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want to say really quick your thoughts

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on the 100

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Pages

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um did you learn anything

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[Laughter]

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I didn't learn anything I didn't like

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reading it it was gross and it made me

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feel weird and I was in public did you

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feel weird huh in public

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oh like me and ab are just sitting there

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reading it blank faces no just casually

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over there he's just like we look over

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and he's like it's just vile

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vile words they

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said

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stop didn't I didn't like it I didn't

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like it I don't know if we can leave

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this in there all right well that's not

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the only type of books I I want to clear

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that up like sure we have like a little

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like me Abigail uh my best friend

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Rebecca who we would love to have on

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here chat chatting one day um we we all

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read like the same books at the same

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time sometimes and then have something

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to talk about um and sometimes it's like

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not necessarily for the education or

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gaining anything it's just it's

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entertainment yes um so yeah I don't

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only read that though I really do like

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um like I was big on Aragon growing up

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big on um like the Harry Potter series

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and like things like that like so I like

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fantasy and I like there it to be like

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another world I don't really like

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reading about anything like if they a

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cell

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phone done for me I don't love it so

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like a big series we both like is aatar

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MHM and I think that's like a huge like

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thing right now which you haven't

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finished

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no I keep getting distracted I need to

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finish the third one because then we

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were going to do that's my homework

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before we go to the Congress because

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when we drive to the Congress we're

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going to do the audio book mhm on the

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way there cuz we have like five hour a

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five hour drive of the

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of yeah of of Nesta and cassian's book

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um so like I like that kind of stuff

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obviously that one does have romance and

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like a spice to it but like it's not

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that's not the whole book it's I would

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say that's probably what most people

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read it for though but it's because the

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spice is so good in that though because

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there's so many like there is a plot and

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there is a a world there's other stuff

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leading up to it it's not just like yeah

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I like the world the World building in

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it like when like if a book comes at the

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map right it's going to be a good one

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but I feel like the TV show or movie or

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whatever they're making is going to ruin

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it probably I'll probably get so mad

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just because of who they cast like

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there's no way they cast who I'm

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thinking in my head but I'm also

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probably not thinking of an actual human

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in my head who would you pick for I say

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Ry sand I know that's I know that's not

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how you pronounce it or how you're

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supposed to pronounce it but Reese just

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doesn't sound manly to me I know there's

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been some here's the thing I've seen

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some people that i' like that's reand

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but like they might not be good

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actors you know what I'm saying yeah

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who's

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yours I'm not going to say because

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you're gonna is it Jacob a lordy yes

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Jesus he would be no he would not yes he

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would he's not he is nowhere near

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reand in my head he is first off in my

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head he is first off he's white

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okay he's not like Ran's not white well

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he's like tan he's

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like he's like Tan White um my other

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pick my first pick actually my first

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thought was Timothy shamay because when

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I read even come at me with that when I

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read it I pictured I know maybe not

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following the

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description like the fan art that I've

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seen of him doesn't match what I had in

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my head at all I pictured him with kind

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of like longer curly hair and that's

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what Timothy shalam gives so Timothy

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shalam is I don't even want you to like

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say that to me ever again he doesn't

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have the build for it or the face or the

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voice facial structure is the voice for

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reand I think he has a nice voice I

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would say matches no we don't we have

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different tasting men those are yeah we

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do we do that's what I'm saying those

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are my two like celebrity crushes yours

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is Henry

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caval and that's the thing I don't even

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think Henry caval is recent a lot of

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people put him as that he's too old now

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yeah but maybe Henry caval and the

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tutors you didn't watch that no like

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you'd like that I think um Henry Cav and

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the tutors was like 2010 I don't even

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know I don't late who I would

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pick cuz like yes I like those two but I

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don't know that they would be the

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perfect fit for him I do think Henry K's

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voice is reand what about Luc Lucian or

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is it Lucian or Lucian I say Lucian I

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say

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Lucian I say everything wrong whenever I

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talk to like I'll talk to Rebecca about

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like the books we've been reading and

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how she says their names versus how I

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say them it's so different I mean that's

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just yeah that's just how it goes but

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okay so what's your favorite book

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series I feel like we like the same

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types of books but you like Mysteries I

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Katie um I

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wouldn't say that any of those are like

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my favorite though because I like series

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because you I feel like you can get

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really like into it and it draws it out

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um I really liked from blood and Ash

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which was I think something that came

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out in a similar time to acatar or at

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least became popular at like the same

10:33

time with like book talk and everything

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um you haven't read that have you you

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would like it it's it's kind of the same

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but in like a little more Tamer I would

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say in that way in that way yeah in that

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way it's not all about that but like the

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plot is really

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good I don't know if all those have are

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done coming out though there's like six

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of them I think so I don't I don't know

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if I have a favorite I've heard thrown

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of glass is really slow to get into read

11:03

it I've heard people say that when they

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read acatar first they didn't like

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thrown of glass Throne of Glass as much

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cuz they're written by the same author

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well you said we were talking about

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books I want you to talk about your

11:19

book how dare

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you that was in the confidence of a

11:24

Texas Airbnb

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um I've written a

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couple never finished and I will not

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tell you where they are available to

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read because you probably guess they're

11:41

still on the internet

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um I was in high school I actually do

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like writing like I've always felt like

11:50

that was a you know something I I felt

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good at and I

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feel I feel like putting my thoughts on

11:58

paper is decently easy to me and back

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when I was reading a lot a lot I felt

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like you know you get kind

12:05

of words in your head from other authors

12:08

and you it kind of gives you more ideas

12:10

I think it'd be a lot harder for me to

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get back into it right now when all I've

12:13

been reading is just like terrible

12:15

writing um but but yeah I did do a

12:18

couple of

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books can you just like give us just

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like the gist of of one of them it's so

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embarrassing

12:30

so embarrassing I think people will like

12:37

it mind you I was SE 16 and 17 it's not

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embarrassing I feel like it's cool that

12:45

you wrote anything I forgot honestly

12:47

what they were titled as but I know what

12:49

the plot was so the first

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one was about a girl who her father was

12:58

a scientist and was working on time

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travel I'm sure that it was not laid out

13:02

well

13:05

okay and she accidentally time

13:09

traveled and went back to whatever year

13:13

the Hatfield and Mccoy's Feud was

13:16

happening I I'm sure you can imagine

13:19

this was when the Hatfield McCoy

13:21

miniseries had come out and I was

13:22

obsessed with johy Hatfield okay like

13:25

it's a whole thing well she goes there

13:28

she like

13:30

you know tries to find civilization she

13:33

winds up on the McCoy side of things and

13:36

then there's like a you know she falls

13:37

in love whatever well then her best

13:40

friend had like found out what she did

13:43

her best friend also time travels to go

13:46

save her I think she tells her dad or

13:49

something and her dad's like you have to

13:50

go you have to be the one to do it why

13:52

didn't he go I don't I don't because

13:54

then there wouldn't be the love story

13:56

okay because then her best friend

13:58

travels to go gave her lands on the H

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field side of things okay then she falls

14:05

finds somebody falls in love I never got

14:07

past really that okay

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okay so then the more complex book that

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I wrote and I don't even remember how

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many chapters I got into it I don't this

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is the one that I know about I didn't

14:21

even know about the other one so this

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one I honestly I think I named it like

14:27

or something like that cuz that was like

14:29

name it's Brave you're putting the title

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out oh

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shoot no leave it in no leave it please

14:39

please leave it in please you have to

14:42

bleep

14:45

it you have to bleep

14:49

it you have to bleep it is it under your

14:51

name or is it under like a ghost ghost I

14:54

think it's I think it's a pseudonym I

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think I had a pseudonym but still

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so this other one I I was very proud of

15:06

the thought process that I because I put

15:07

a lot of time into it I used to make my

15:09

friends at high school like I would

15:10

write a chapter and then send it to them

15:12

and they had to read it and we' talk

15:13

about it at school okay I was like such

15:15

a little nerd proud of at the time very

15:17

proud of it at the time again I didn't

15:18

finish it I was a little quitter um but

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the concept was um the main character is

15:25

a demon in hell and in hell

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there

15:30

are like like demons that have lives and

15:36

like emotions and all this stuff and

15:38

they are being like raised by Lucifer as

15:40

his army to go

15:42

to the and again this is totally fiction

15:46

this isn't anything about like my

15:47

religious beliefs but like um I'm a

15:50

Christian

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but there was a Redemption for these

15:53

demons okay um so they were being like

15:56

raised up and it was almost like I was

15:59

very much into like Vampire Academy and

16:00

things like that it was almost like

16:01

their initiation their graduation into

16:04

like being demons okay they're given a

16:06

mate they're given a human on earth to

16:09

possess they're given a like you're

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going here to screw all this up

16:15

basically um and so it follows her

16:19

follows her story um of going to you

16:24

know Earth possessing someone there's

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like a bunch of different point of views

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in it um but

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then like she has her mate like there's

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like that process of it there's her

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fighting with like she doesn't feel evil

16:39

she doesn't want like she feels for this

16:42

person that she's being yeah like called

16:45

to possess um and then there's like

16:48

angels that come into it and there's

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there's like a Redemption Arc for her

16:53

sounds good like I would read it so I

16:57

never finished it like I never got like

16:59

super far into it but like I yeah was

17:01

there like there's a love triangle Vice

17:03

in it there was a l yes there have I not

17:06

read it to you I thought I read it to

17:07

you I think i' I think you read like a

17:09

little exert to me um it was yeah

17:13

there's cuz she like her best friend

17:17

ends up being her like her mate but then

17:20

she falls in love with an angel but she

17:22

like has love for her mate but her mate

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isn't wanting to come to the good side

17:25

and there's like there's all this

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different yeah so

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I'm just a little weirdo

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good I'm just a little weirdo people

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would like to read

17:35

it no so is that one finished or no no

17:38

none of them are finished it's sad yeah

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and I don't think I could put myself

17:42

back into my 17-year-old mine to finish

17:46

it in the same way y'all are bringing up

17:48

memories from a time

17:52

that I've forgotten about have you seen

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like I don't know what the websites are

17:57

called or if there is a specific website

18:01

but I saw like a Britney brosi video

18:03

where like she was reading

18:06

fanfiction that people had like gone on

18:09

the internet and like written about her

18:11

have you ever seen have you ever found

18:13

any of that like about yourself you

18:16

haven't I wonder if there's any out

18:18

there is there any Katy Vance like

18:20

fanfiction no I don't know 100 there

18:23

will be now 100% not there will be now

18:26

there's a fan fiction about me and

18:28

Jonathan but it was like it was like

18:29

completely unserious like it was it was

18:33

satire obviously obviously but I don't

18:36

know I I just I'm interested if if there

18:38

would be anything out there I doubt it

18:40

about you I doubt it highly well would

18:43

you read it if there

18:45

was I'd give it a

18:48

try give it a I'd give it a go I'd give

18:51

it a go I don't know if I could stick

18:53

with it we I

18:55

mean my feet are getting a little warm

18:58

mine aren't the he was right about the

19:00

light moving up for sure have you ever

19:02

written a book by the way I have

19:06

not Nathan I know Nate has probably i'

19:11

I've started books I've dabbled I've

19:13

dabbled in books more of a movie guy

19:16

yeah for his birthday he just made a

19:19

short film that's just just pulled one

19:21

out edited it shot it rote it I got some

19:24

questions from people that were on the

19:27

Jammy talk mhm I like the Jamie talk it

19:31

was fun yeah I liked it too someone

19:33

asked what do you mean when you say

19:35

hunter under saddle I assume you mean

19:38

English yeah it is English and it is a

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class that is based on the horse so

19:46

horse's movement horse's ability

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to like okay so what they what you're

19:53

going to do on this horse and the rider

19:56

can look terrible it's not going to make

19:57

the whole picture look great but it's

19:59

not based on the rider um it's based on

20:02

how the horse moves on The Obedience

20:04

because the announcer is going to ask

20:06

you to walk Trot and caner reverse

20:09

backup all those things and you have to

20:12

do it when the announcer says and then

20:13

the judge gets that time to you know

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look at your horse analyze its movement

20:18

place the horses that are in front of

20:20

them and so it is the equivalent of

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Western Pleasure on the English Spectrum

20:26

so it is usually what

20:29

the like a lot of the hunters like that

20:32

go into the working Hunter and the

20:33

jumping stuff um might start off into

20:36

the hunter under saddle or they might

20:39

start because they have a working Hunter

20:41

under saddle too which is more for like

20:43

jumpers um but yeah it's a it's a class

20:46

that is based on the horses movement so

20:49

most horses like I said in that last

20:50

video that go on to do the all around

20:53

that go on to do the Western riding and

20:55

horsemanship and equitation they start

20:57

off and either Western Pleasure or

20:59

Hunter under saddle um it's a good

21:02

Basics class basically okay so when you

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were writing

21:08

Denver had a lot of comments questions

21:14

about how he

21:16

was um moving I guess um a lot of

21:22

comments about you know why is it so

21:25

slow why do you want their head down

21:29

more I guess if you want to talk about

21:32

so so the thing about Western Pleasure

21:34

it get it gets a lot of hate it just

21:36

does that's an unfortunate unfortunate

21:39

piece of it um in every discipline there

21:42

are going to be trainers that do it

21:45

incorrectly force a horse that is not

21:48

talented in that event to do it which

21:50

makes it look terrible um and then there

21:52

there's just you know people being

21:54

uneducated as far as what's going on

21:57

right and so

21:59

I never want when people now some people

22:01

get hateful and I'll be like blocked um

22:04

but I'll never I'll never shy away from

22:07

people's educated or I'll never shy away

22:10

from

22:11

people's actual want to learn you know

22:14

so with with Denver is he a finished

22:17

show Horse no that's not how he's

22:18

supposed to look in the class do I love

22:21

how every Western Pleasure horse Lopes

22:23

around at the highest level no I really

22:26

don't but Western Pleasure whether

22:30

people like it or not is a very good

22:33

base for a horse it teaches them how to

22:36

use every part of their body it is so

22:39

taxing on them like like it is so they

22:42

need to be so athletic to go slow and

22:44

you wouldn't think that they need to

22:46

have so many muscles need to be so fit

22:48

to go that slow and not even just go

22:51

slow slow is just the difficulty of it

22:54

you want to go slow with a deep balanced

22:56

Hawk balanced Topline

22:59

the ones winning are not the ones with

23:00

their heads dragging the ground whether

23:02

you like it or not like if you actually

23:04

look at them they have a level Top Line

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in a lot of the video of me on Denver

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his head is level it's not even like

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dragging the ground like people like to

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say you a lot of people just have a

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hatred for that Sport and they're going

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to hate it regardless so Western

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Pleasure as a whole was started to be a

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pleasure to ride to be slow and easy and

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comfortable and then just like any other

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discipline people started competing with

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it and then breeding for it and so the

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Western Pleasure horse um

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characteristically should be comfortable

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rocking back on its Hawk to have this

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super deep drive light front end um

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balanced Top Line and should be able to

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go around at a slow collected lope on a

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draped rain same for the jog um I do get

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angry at hor shows sometimes that the

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jog is not a jog they are like I showed

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you that at the Congress so many of the

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hes were like walking I'm like what the

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heck have a two beat kick them up one

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notch and it looks so good you know so

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Denver at this point in his training

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does not look like he should he is

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perfect for where he's at like we are

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wanting him to be a western riding horse

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a trail horse um but if you don't like

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the Western Pleasure Lo that's totally

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fine if you don't like it like there's

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there's other disciplines I don't like

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watching I'm not going to tell you you

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have to like this discipline

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but to call it a natural I

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mean is

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dras is Dr natural is making a horse fly

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around a barrel natural is making a

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horse jump four feet natural it like you

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know you can argue till you're blue in

24:49

the face about any discipline so you

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know I would encourage people to have an

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open mind these horses are strong um

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they are really getting a good

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foundation for the rest of their career

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in other classes some what's crazy is

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I've had people get on my Western

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Pleasure show horses or whatever and

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they have been so against it until they

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get on that horse and they realize how

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trained they are and

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how how good they are moving every part

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of their body and how fit they are and

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so you know I I would just say I'm okay

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if you don't like it yet I don't

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encourage you to automatically write it

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off and say how horrible it is yeah um

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until you have experience with it

25:37

because it can be really beautiful if

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you know what you're looking for and

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you're watching a horse that's bred for

25:43

it talented at it and someone writing

25:45

them correctly I can't say that everyone

25:47

does that correctly at every level you

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know I can't say if you go to a horse

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show on the weekend that all the

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Pleasure horses at that show are going

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to look great and be

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a good example you know but last comment

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not really question but um someone said

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the lack of helmets on everyone in that

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ring gives me anxiety they are all so

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pretty though you know helmets are a

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really good

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tool I wear a helmet when I'm riding in

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the English I'm going to wear a helmet

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if I'm jumping I'm going to wear a

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helmet um

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like I broke a 2-year-old out a couple

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years ago and never wore helmet but

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there are some 2-year-olds I would wear

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a helmet getting on like and that's the

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thing you got to think about is yes my

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kids are going to wear helmets when

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they're growing up my best friend's kids

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always wear a helmet like she's going to

26:39

show Annie soon and she's going to wear

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a helmet in the western like that's

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totally fine and I think it should

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happen but as you become an adult you

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just kind of like there are things that

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you kind of know are dangerous but yeah

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you and people I think I saw a few

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comments on some of my my videos from

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like not my videos some of the videos of

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me riding bow and people were asking why

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I wasn't wearing one and I just kind of

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like I don't know cuz it's B like I feel

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like you trust him enough that you're

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teaching me on always happen yeah

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something could always happen but do you

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wear a helmet in your car do you you

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know I mean there's things that can

27:21

happen all the time and someone's gonna

27:23

get on to me about that explanation but

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I would say yes children should wear

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them beginners should wear them if they

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are on horses that are also beginners or

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if they feel comfortable wearing them

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I'm going to say if you're a full- grown

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adult you can make that decision yeah um

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at the horse shows we don't show with

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helmets on and so it just you know it's

27:44

kind of turned into something that I I I

27:46

would never judge someone for wearing a

27:48

helmet yeah literally ever um you know

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it's just it's just something that I got

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out of the habit of and

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anything can happen I there's not really

28:01

a good answer for it other than I it's

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like me wearing flipflops to the barn do

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I know it's dumb

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probably yeah I'm just going to keep you

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just also trust your horses

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enough um and know them

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enough I just I feel like I know that

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there's a chance but I know that the

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chance is low you know what I'm saying

28:21

like there would be what like you could

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say for a lot of things I think so yeah

28:26

all right well that was different the

28:29

books the book topic was a good idea

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even though there's going to be so many

28:33

people being like what are what are

28:35

these

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books I think a lot of

28:39

people will have read them yeah there's

28:44

a lot of people that have read the nasty

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book too but we're not telling them yeah

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you can guess um but anyway hope y'all

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enjoyed that let me know if you have any

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