There's a moment that doesn't get talked about very much in dog training.
Speaker AIt's not the breakdown moment because that gets talked about a lot.
Speaker AAnd it's not the breakthrough moment either, because that gets talked about equally as much.
Speaker AIt's that quiet in between moment, the messy middle where nothing looks dramatically different on the outside, but something on something on the inside for you has shifted.
Speaker ASo you might find that you've stopped Googling things as much, or you, you're pausing before reacting, or you notice yourself and your dog from a place of softness rather than of anger or frustration or doubt or all of those negative feelings.
Speaker AIt's coming from a place of more kindness or softness.
Speaker AAnd then almost immediately, another voice pops inside your head and it says, is this enough?
Speaker AAm I doing enough right now?
Speaker AShouldn't things look different to how they look as they are today?
Speaker AI want to talk about that moment.
Speaker AThat is the moment where self trust starts to come back because you aren't Googling things as much.
Speaker ASo it means that you're trusting what your instincts are telling you about what to do in that situation more than you were before.
Speaker AOr you've used the learning that you've taken on board from previous situations in order to be able to use them now.
Speaker ABut it's where that confidence hasn't caught up yet.
Speaker ASo you've still like got some, you know, doubt there in terms of the confidence levels.
Speaker ABut your trust in yourself and what you're choosing to do is starting to kick in.
Speaker AThat is often where dog parents tend to lose faith in themselves again.
Speaker AWhen their confidence hasn't quite caught up with their self trust, it's not because they're doing anything wrong, but it's because they don't recognize what real progress actually looks like.
Speaker AAnd I talked about progress in the last episode, what real progress genuinely looks like, how it looked for me when I was working with my reactive dog Bonnie all those years ago.
Speaker ALike all that stuff, it's really important.
Speaker AAnd that's what I want to talk about today.
Speaker ABecause most dog training conversations are built around the outcome.
Speaker AThe now, I'm not saying the outcome's not important because we do have to talk about it from a perspective of building a plan.
Speaker AWe need a goal and we need to set the expectations straight away.
Speaker AAnd when a client gives me what their goal looks like, it's actually reassessing and saying, well, is this goal realistic?
Speaker AIs it something that's possible?
Speaker ABecause sometimes those expectations are higher than what is possible.
Speaker AAnd that's okay.
Speaker AIt's okay, if that's what's happening.
Speaker ABecause we just have to reset and say, well, these are the reasons why I don't believe that that is, is something we can achieve yet, but we can achieve this, this, and this instead.
Speaker AAnd that's making its way up towards what they might be thinking that they're going to get to some of these other skills.
Speaker ASo I'm not discounting outcomes at all as a conversation piece, but that is where most of the conversations revolve around so loosely walking the recall, being calm around triggers better behavior.
Speaker AGenerally those are the like, just as a really high level thing, those are the outcomes that we're kind of talking about, but not as many people are talking about what is happening inside youth before those things are happening, before those things start to stabilize.
Speaker ABecause before behavior changes consistently, something else usually changes first.
Speaker AAnd what, what am I talking about here?
Speaker AIt's our nervous system.
Speaker ASo I have the concept of nervous system aware dog parenting just so that it's at the forefront of everyone's minds when we consider our own response to things and our dog's response to things, because their nervous system's just as important in this as ours and vice versa.
Speaker ASo you're gonna start to feel maybe slightly less braced or slightly less on edge or slightly more able to think instead of reacting in that moment, like I mentioned earlier.
Speaker AAnd ironically, that can start to feel really unsettling to our nervous system if you've spent months or years in survival mode with your dog.
Speaker ASo that constant alertness there all of the time, that is what starts to feel normal.
Speaker AOur nervous system and our bodies sense that is the thing that's always happening.
Speaker ATherefore that is safety, even if it's not healthy.
Speaker AOur nervous system isn't there to create this balance, to know if something's healthy or not.
Speaker AIt just knows that this is what keeps happening.
Speaker ATherefore, that is the safe place because it's always happening.
Speaker ASo when that vigilance starts to soften, that I've mentioned, your brain is sometimes going to interpret that as danger, not as progress.
Speaker ASo it's going to flag it up and say, why aren't things feeling harder?
Speaker AWhy don't we feel as urgent right now when something might be happening?
Speaker AWhat if we're missing something?
Speaker ALike that's not our gut feeling or our intuition kicking in.
Speaker AThat's that nervous system that hasn't fully learned that it's safe yet doing this different thing.
Speaker AAnd we're talking about that from our dog's perspective as well as our own too.
Speaker ASo our Dogs learned that this particular process is safe for me, like reacting to a trigger, because it means the trigger goes away faster, therefore I am safe.
Speaker ABut actually that's not healthy as a long term strategy.
Speaker ASo we reteach them a different way of feeling safe in a more healthy way.
Speaker ASo I remember noticing it with Bonnie.
Speaker ASo when I talk about our journey through dog training, I remember kind of I've been thinking about all of the things that I felt and the things that I was thinking going back years, but I can still remember kind of because her reactivity was so extreme, I can remember certain things a bit more.
Speaker ASo there was that period of time, that messy middle, where nothing about her behaviour looked dramatically improved on paper.
Speaker AShe'd still got big feelings about things.
Speaker AShe still found really some situations really difficult to cope with and life hadn't just suddenly become really easy.
Speaker ABut I noticed something else.
Speaker AI noticed I wasn't holding my breath in the same way.
Speaker ASo anticipating a trigger, brace yourself, hold my breath, start to feel anxious, tense, that lead.
Speaker AI wasn't doing that in the same way.
Speaker AI wasn't scanning the environment constantly.
Speaker ASo I wasn't thinking, I need to check around people's driveways, I need to make sure there isn't anybody coming around this corner.
Speaker AAs much as I was before.
Speaker AI could think instead of like in that mid moment of a reaction, I could think myself through it instead of after it had happened and reflecting on it, I could think in the moment, what do I need to do right now?
Speaker ABut that was when the doubt started to kick in because I started to think, well, am I becoming complacent?
Speaker AShouldn't I be still checking all these things and being more vigilant and doing all this stuff?
Speaker AAm I starting to let things slide as a result of not doing that stuff?
Speaker ABut what was actually happening was my nervous system had started to trust itself again and it wasn't being loud or really confident.
Speaker AIt was doing it from a quiet, grounded place.
Speaker AAnd that kind of trust doesn't just announce itself and say, hey guys, I'm here.
Speaker AI trust myself again.
Speaker ANow it starts to show up in more steadiness.
Speaker ASo that's when I mention it's the shift inside you that you might not be aware of happening, but is happening when you start to think and reflect back about what, what progress is actually looking like for you all.
Speaker ASo Bonnie, like I say, she still had the big feelings about things and she didn't find all the situations really easy to deal with.
Speaker ABut I was being able to cope better in Those situations.
Speaker ATherefore, I can help her to be able to cope better in those situations as time went on, and I could support her in changing how she felt.
Speaker ASome of those situations are unavoidable.
Speaker AI wasn't going in deliberately to set her up for failure.
Speaker AI was trying to set her up for success on myself.
Speaker ABut there were situations, sometimes that was, you know, there were things going around corners.
Speaker AAll of a sudden they were closer than I was hoping.
Speaker AAll that stuff can happen sometimes.
Speaker AAnd it was those moments where I started to see what I've just mentioned, that progress and that shift in myself.
Speaker ASo from a nervous system perspective, it really does make a lot of sense.
Speaker ASo when you've been under prolonged stress, your brain is going to prioritize detection over reflection.
Speaker AA little rhyme there for you to remember when.
Speaker AWhen you've been under prolonged stress, your brain prioritizes detection and over reflection.
Speaker AThat just means the parts of your brain like the amygdala and the stress hormones like cortisol, are starting to feed that stress response.
Speaker AAnd that's a normal response for your body to have.
Speaker ABut as your regulation starts to increase, the part of your brain that is responsible for decision making and that perspective and flexibility, that prefrontal cortex, if you want the official term for it, that starts to come back online instead.
Speaker ABut the important bit about this is the return of that capacity really does often feel neutral.
Speaker AIt doesn't feel exciting or triumphant.
Speaker AIt starts to feel quieter and you're thinking about regulation and grounding.
Speaker AIt's calm and that's.
Speaker AIt's steady, it's soft, it's kind.
Speaker ALike all those things, those.
Speaker AThose emotions aren't big and exciting and like triumphant and think of all the big words.
Speaker AThey're not.
Speaker AIt's not any of those things.
Speaker ABecause we have been taught that progress should feel obvious.
Speaker AAnd as a result of that, we are often dismissing that phase completely.
Speaker AThis is actually where.
Speaker AThis is the state where learning from you and your dog so both of you becomes possible again.
Speaker AAnd it's not coming from a place of trying harder, but because your system has more room.
Speaker ASo when I've talked about capacity in previous episodes, we've.
Speaker AWhen you've hit that capacity and you don't have capacity, it all links back to that.
Speaker ASo that capacity starts to grow.
Speaker AYour system's got more room to breathe, you can process things more so that prefrontal cortex is kicking in and doing what it's meant to do to help you to learn and to think things through logically and say, well, what's our strategy right now because my dog started to go a bit bonkers.
Speaker AIt's not the amygdala and the core cortisol.
Speaker ACortisol might be kicking in because stress can be positive and negative and it can get us through the moments in brief moments of time where there is stress.
Speaker AIt gets us through.
Speaker AAnd positive stress is a good thing.
Speaker AIt's that prolonged stress that I've mentioned that is unhealthy and that our nervous system needs to change its process of realizing that that's not actually safe, that's not safety.
Speaker AThis softer, kinder, gentler, calmer place is where we're looking for safety.
Speaker ANow.
Speaker ADogs don't respond to that perfection that we potentially are aiming for.
Speaker AAnd I've talked about perfection in previous episodes as well because I am a perfectionist.
Speaker AI have those kind of thought processes, this isn't good enough and all that stuff because it doesn't look perfect.
Speaker ASo dog, dogs don't respond to that.
Speaker AThey are going to respond more to predictability, to safety and to emotional availability from you.
Speaker ASo when you start to trust yourself a little more, your cues are going to become clearer.
Speaker ABecause if you're thinking with your the stress and you're coming at it from that fight flight freeze, your cues aren't going to be clear.
Speaker ABecause what may happen and if this is happening, this isn't any kind of passing judgment because I've done it before.
Speaker AYou might be saying their name repeatedly, you might be saying leave it.
Speaker AYou might be pulling them back, you might be saying this way.
Speaker AAnd it's all happening in a matter of seconds.
Speaker AThose cues are all totally like so different.
Speaker ASit, hear, stop.
Speaker ANo, leave it.
Speaker ALike all that stuff's happening so fast.
Speaker AThey aren't clear to your dog what to do and they're not in the state of mind to be able to respond to it anyway.
Speaker ABut your cues can become clearer.
Speaker AFrom a place of trusting yourself more, your timing starts to get better.
Speaker ASo you're self trusting more.
Speaker AYou're coming at things from a more logical place.
Speaker AIt means that you can process things easier.
Speaker AAnd your timing, timing is important.
Speaker AWith things like this, your timing starts to get better.
Speaker AYour body is starting to soften so that tense leads not happening, your tension on that lead, your tense muscles, the breathing changing, all that stuff, your reactions are starting to slow down.
Speaker ASo your dog doesn't need to be endlessly motivated.
Speaker AThey need you regulated enough to stay present in that moment.
Speaker AAnd that's where CO regulation is happening.
Speaker AI'm Karma, I'm coming at it from a calmer place.
Speaker AAnd this is what started to happen with Bonnie.
Speaker AI realized I was be.
Speaker AI was trusting myself more because I realized this is this.
Speaker AThis is actually working in subtle ways because my cues started to become clearer.
Speaker AThis is what I need to do in this situation.
Speaker AMy timing got better because when she saw a trigger, I could process and say, right, there's a trigger there.
Speaker ARather than going, oh, no, somebody's coming.
Speaker AWhich is generally exactly what my head was telling me in that exact voice.
Speaker AMy body wasn't as tense, I wasn't gripping that lead as quickly, and my reactions weren't really, really quick and over the top.
Speaker AThat's the co regulation.
Speaker AIt's one of those really underestimated foundations of behavior change.
Speaker AWhen I'm talking from my own experience and when I'm talking, talking about it from the perspective of working with other dog parents going through these things as well.
Speaker ASo if you've noticed that you're thinking less about training, you're feeling less frantic, you're noticing more than fixing and you're pausing instead of pushing, it doesn't mean you're giving up.
Speaker ABecause when I say thinking about thinking less about training, you might be thinking, well, I'm lazy.
Speaker AWhy am I not doing it more?
Speaker AWhy have I like, why have I taken a step back from it?
Speaker AWhy aren't we doing things every day or multiple times a day?
Speaker AEvery day, Your nervous system stop panicking when all of those things are happening.
Speaker AThat's not a self.
Speaker AThat's not a step backwards when that happens.
Speaker AIt's a platform that you.
Speaker AYou've taken that step up and it's a platform that your nervous system started to recognize that this is the new safety.
Speaker AThis is more possible and doable and healthier, basically.
Speaker ASo that's what I want you to think about.
Speaker AThink about this.
Speaker AListen to the episode again.
Speaker AIf you want to kind of reflect on the things that I've mentioned and think about how it's like, ask yourselves the same questions about are you doing these things less?
Speaker AAre you seeing a change in how you respond in these situations?
Speaker ABecause I want you to see what progress looks like for you just as much as the things that I've said that are progress for your dog in reactive moment or in a situation, whatever it looks like, share it with somebody who you think might also need to hear it because they're in the middle of this messy.
Speaker AThey're in this messy middle.
Speaker AThey're in the middle of working with their dog through reactivity, and they don't have that support of somebody with the experience and the knowledge of working with clients in that same way, share it with someone who you think might need to hear it, because it might actually they might be getting that progress that they just haven't recognized yet.
Speaker AIf there's one thing that I really want you to take from today, I want you to hear all of it.
Speaker ABut the one thing is progress doesn't always look like momentum.
Speaker AIt doesn't look like those big, big, huge moments.
Speaker ASometimes it looks like that trust coming back quietly, that softness, the kindness, like those nice, gentler words.
Speaker AThat's what progress can look like when it happens.
Speaker AThe most supportive thing you can do is not override it with pressure.
Speaker AJust let it settle.
Speaker ALet your system learn that calm doesn't disappear just because you stop pushing.
Speaker AThat's where it all starts to happen and you start to see that actually things are moving forward.
Speaker ASo if this episode has stirred something for you, you don't need to analyze it or act on it.
Speaker AJust notice what it was like to hear it.
Speaker ASo when I say, like, reflect on the episode, listen to it again, think about how it feels for you.
Speaker AJust notice it.
Speaker AYou don't have to take action or do anything differently if you find yourself listening again.
Speaker AComing back to certain episodes more than once, that's information as well, because you're not behind.
Speaker AYou're learning to trust yourself again and that isn't something that you can rush.
Speaker ARemember that messy middle that we talked about and that moment where your self trust has started to come back but the confidence hasn't caught up yet.
Speaker AYou're learning to trust yourself again and your confidence is going to catch up.
Speaker AThat's not something you can rush because I've been through that myself.
Speaker AAnd trying to push through it will start to make you doubt yourself more because you're trying more challenging, difficult situations that you might not be able to cope with or your dog might not be able to tolerate just yet?
Speaker ASo thank you very much for listening.
Speaker AI really hope this episode has helped and I'll see you next time on the Mindful Dog Parent.