Martin:

Foreign.

Blair:

Good afternoon.

Blair:

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

Blair:

This is episode 94 of the Secular Foxhole podcast.

Blair:

Today, Martin and I are going are celebrate ayn Rand's birth 120 years ago on February 2,

Blair:

1905.

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Alicia Rosenbaum, I believe was their real

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name, was born into the, into the world and the world was never the same.

Blair:

Let's hope for the future anyway.

Blair:

But anyway, we.

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There's so many platitudes that I personally can attest to as far as what Ms. Rand has done

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for me in my life and people.

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I know that.

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And you have your own stories, I'm sure those of you listening and day.

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To have a celebration.

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And so it's a constructed day or created day

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called Rand's Day, in one word.

Blair:

That's right.

Martin:

So it's Rand's Day.

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It's not official day, but it's a day that we

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celebrate.

Martin:

And I was thinking when you said that for me,

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when you say ladies and gentlemen, I think I like that because it's very nice introduction.

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And we are talking to you, the individual.

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That's correct listening, the one listener.

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And that's her philosophy.

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You know, with the pamphlet, you could say, or

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how you say, not pamphlet, but.

Blair:

Novella.

Martin:

Novella. Thanks. Anthem.

Martin:

And the word I.

Blair:

Yes, the most sacred word in the human language.

Martin:

Yeah. And that's my first blog and podcast, ego.

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And that's I in Latin, so ego.

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Netkast.

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So that's my reflection.

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When I heard, when you talked about this day,

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it was most important for her, of course, herself.

Blair:

Yes, that's right.

Martin:

And then she found freedom and moved from Russia, Soviet Union to the United States

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of America.

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And I would say directly, if you haven't

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watched it and if it's possible to rent it, buy it, is the Sense of life, right.

Blair:

The documentary Sense of Life, it got even nominated.

Blair:

Yes, it did.

Martin:

That's right.

Blair:

Yes, it did.

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Got nominated for best documentary.

Blair:

Yeah, it was nominated.

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I don't think it won, but it was nominated.

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And let's see, February 2nd also personally is my will be my 28th wedding anniversary.

Martin:

Yeah. So you have congratulations for that.

Martin:

And thank you.

Martin:

Thank you to you and your partner.

Blair:

Thank you.

Blair:

Thank you.

Blair:

She's.

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She's a, an extraordinary woman.

Blair:

Yeah.

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And.

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But I mean, again, when I first read the Fountain Head, it was just as I said before,

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all the cobwebs just blew out of my, my mind.

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And I was, I've said this before, too.

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I was basically an aimless, aimless, drifting

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young man who basically read the sports page in the Sunday Funnies But I was introduced to

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the Fountainhead by a dear friend of mine, and that was in 1979.

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And here we are, what, several decades later.

Martin:

Yeah. And your friend, is he still celebrating Ran's Day?

Blair:

I think he does.

Blair:

Yes, I do.

Blair:

I think he does.

Blair:

I have to make sure he does.

Martin:

Yeah.

Blair:

That's good.

Martin:

And for me, I can't say exactly the year, but I say often mid-80s, and I was in my

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mid teens, around 15.

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And I also read Fountainhead, the first.

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So I like that introduction.

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And it was some special.

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And for you out there, the listener, if you

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haven't read the book, of course, do that.

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I read it in Swedish.

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It's not the same thing.

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It was called translation.

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And then I read it in original.

Martin:

But you could also watch the movie the Fountainhead.

Martin:

And that's also.

Blair:

That's a great point.

Blair:

Great.

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Gary Cooper and Patricia Neal.

Martin:

Yeah.

Blair:

Ms. Rand herself was, I guess, partial director.

Martin:

Yeah.

Blair:

Though she.

Blair:

Anyway, that's worth watching.

Martin:

Yeah, it is.

Blair:

Especially for the courtroom scene.

Martin:

Yeah, it is.

Martin:

And another movie that we are looking forward

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to talk about also is we the Living.

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And of course, based on the book also.

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So I think it's.

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It's a day of.

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Worth remembering and celebrating and then with birth.

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And it's now 120th birthday.

Blair:

Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to make this.

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This particular podcast, all positive stuff.

Martin:

Episode. Yeah. Good.

Blair:

Yeah. Yeah. But because there's great.

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There's.

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Even though the culture, certainly American culture is dividing, or seems to be dividing

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between two major tribes, there's always positive undercurrents.

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There are great individuals swimming against the tide, like people.

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Like I'll mention them specifically.

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Hopefully they won't suffer ill from this.

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But the people at the Institute for Progress or the Roots of Progress, they are paving the

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way for what's a field called Progress Studies.

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And we have boom, Supersonic, which is developing a supersonic airliner to go from,

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like, New York to London in three hours or less.

Martin:

That's good.

Blair:

And then you have again, people like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos going into outer

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space, private space shots at the fraction of a cost of NASA.

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So there are.

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There are great, great things happening.

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And that's.

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There's a gentleman.

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I have to.

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Hopefully I won't butcher his last name.

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James Pethicacus, P E T H O K O U K I S who's

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an economist, but he is.

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He has a substack called Upwing Downwing, where he talks about upwing, meaning things,

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great celebrations of progress.

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And Downwing means the Opposite.

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So there's great things happening in the culture.

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It's just they obviously get no or very little positive attention.

Martin:

And that's also for us because I'm happy I send a mental thank you note every

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day.

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And like paraphrasing from Rand both to

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skyscrapers, of course, but the.

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How do you say stacks on factories?

Blair:

Yeah, the smokestacks.

Martin:

Yeah, smokestacks and that.

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Because in a way I do that as a controversial

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thing to say because people are.

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Don't get it nowadays.

Blair:

No, they don't.

Martin:

So I do that.

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And I, of course, coming from that background,

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the manufacturing industry, things have to be made and created also in these times.

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And for me it's important to think about that.

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And if we take again, literature as a novelist

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and a philosopher.

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Novelist and a philosopher in the Fountainhead

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is the art architect and we are talking about Frank Lloyd Wright and others.

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And in the Atlas Shrugged is the train.

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And that how it connected the United States of

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America as a backdrop.

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It could be some if it would be a new book, it

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maybe be in.

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In Space, for example.

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So. But it's important because it was relevant

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for her.

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She studied architecture and, and the business

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and the industry.

Martin:

And also it's very symbolic to rise up to the.

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To the sky and.

Blair:

Yes.

Martin:

And so on.

Blair:

Yes.

Martin:

And the train also the locomotion and how, how it connects and transport from one

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from A to B and the goods and everything about that could have been something else.

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But the story as such, you.

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You get interested in, in trains and in buildings and so on.

Blair:

That's true.

Blair:

That's true.

Martin:

So. And that's very.

Blair:

Let me also, if I may step in.

Blair:

Sorry, Martin, but I want to ask the great

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things that are happening to combat government indoctrination in our public schools.

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There's the growing homeschool movement and micro schools popping up everywhere.

Martin:

I have to say that.

Martin:

And now I interrupt you, but with Scott

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Powell, his work.

Blair:

Yes.

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And others that we have had on our show about homeschooling and self studying and

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so on.

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So Brad Thompson at Clemson University, whose Lyceum program is actually one of the

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few pro America courses, if you will, on any college campus.

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And in order to have that, I have Lyceum Peripatus on my Twitter or X and that's

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a story by itself to talk about that.

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I had Lyceum first and then came gave it away

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to a podcasting site and then now Lyceum Peripatus and I talked about that on other

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podcasts that publish in Swedish.

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And I really look forward to one day to visit Athens and Greece and Belyceum or you

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pronounce it a different way in Greece.

Martin:

I think it like Kion or something like that

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and probably or the name Robert Partner.

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Robert's partner. Robert Bigley Partner could probably give us Carrie Ann.

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Carrie Ann how you pronounce it.

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She's an expert in this so because that's the founding and foundation in Greece and also of

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course the Renaissance in Italy and then leading up to the United States of America.

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The foundation and as I do celebrated December 16, 1773 for me it's very important.

Martin:

That's not either holiday but should be I think.

Blair:

Well I, I, I certainly concur with that and I won't I know we're mess we're not

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mentioning, you know, dozens of other great people who are doing great things.

Martin:

So positive news sandwich or should we talk more specific about Rans Day?

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What's happening on that day on February 2nd?

Blair:

Well again we just want to celebrate her I mean the achievements that's not only

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was she a novelist, she was a philosopher.

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I mean she had to create her own philosophic

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system to present her vision of what she called the ideal man.

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And some of the achievements unfortunately the establishment is although weakening they still

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stay in the United both conservative and liberal against her.

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But her time will come especially and.

Martin:

If we look liberals we are classical liberals so.

Martin:

Well, I'm a leftist of a socialists.

Blair:

Yeah. Leftist progressives.

Martin:

Yeah. And we are for progress also this is complicated with I know there's plus.

Blair:

I, I once some years in my some years ago I joked that a conservative intellectual

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is a contradiction.

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So I mean, I mean because I mean religion

Blair:

please.

Martin:

Yeah. You know you could as I like the expression manning self in the foxhole.

Martin:

You're right and I think we should have that also in the future more talking about how you

Martin:

could support our show and the work of our guests and so on and there I see other

Martin:

podcasts they have a boostagram corner.

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We could have our, you know, Foxhole segment and we could thank listeners and fellow

Martin:

podcasters and guests and supporting us and how we could support others.

Martin:

So I think that we could talk a little bit about also if you want certainly.

Blair:

But again Ayn Rand herself, she has been described as an epoch creating

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philosopher and I concur with that.

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And for those of us who fight for the future, live in that future today.

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So that's I encourage anyone who's confused or struggling or depressed to pick up a copy of

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the Fountainhead to to just take A journey along with her to I guarantee that you'll see

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a different.

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Have a different outlook on yourself, on your life and on the world.

Martin:

Yeah. And it could be also as I had, I was defining a system integrating thoughts,

Martin:

fundamental ideas into one.

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One system and one philosophy.

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So I was searching for that.

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I came from a political way, you could say.

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And then I said it must be something more.

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And we have the whole philosophical system

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integrated.

Martin:

So.

Blair:

You want to end the show with some.

Martin:

Yes.

Blair:

And so on.

Blair:

Go ahead.

Martin:

Yeah, I want to do some shout outs to the celebration.

Martin:

So if you go to randsday.com I think it's Harry Beanswing that's taking care of that

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domain.

Blair:

I believe that's true.

Martin:

So on if you go click on that ransday.com then it's another URL

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forward/2025htm and there is a celebration that will be in Florida so you could read

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about that.

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And it's end of January and beginning of

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February so they will have like a mini conference you could say or event happening

Martin:

there and then the organization here will have the 120th birthday and I will include that in

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show notes also.

Blair:

Great, great.

Martin:

And about it's Raymond Newman, the radio program.

Martin:

They will release program there talking about Rand and with Rand.

Blair:

Okay, yeah, that's an oldie but a goodie.

Martin:

Yes, very good.

Martin:

And then I want to do it quickly here and we will talk more about that in the future.

Martin:

So ISO Cor called created the numerology Boostogram and that's how to send a payment

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with a comment or like a digital telegram with a donation.

Martin:

So I created 221905.

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And what's that Blair?

Blair:

If you read it out.

Blair:

Yeah.

Martin:

Yes.

Blair:

2-2-1905.

Martin:

Yeah. And in that list now and there's of course no official list but I put that on

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the GitHub list so it's there.

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So if somebody want to support us or some

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other podcaster they could send a booster gram of two two 1905 satoshis.

Martin:

And on that list now before it's number 47 it's the Fibonacci boost.

Martin:

That's pretty interesting.

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112358 and that's Fibonacci is in the nature

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but it's also in trading in financial sector.

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That's interesting as a concept.

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And Then it's number 48.

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When is Rand's day? 221905 Rand's day boost and number 49 is

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312009 Bitcoin birthday boost.

Martin:

So that was the day of birth of bitcoin.

Blair:

Aha. Okay.

Martin:

You could go to podnews.net

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Article boostagram normg.

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And when I searched on Ran's day we had like 15 hits on the secular foxhole live that you

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got that domain.

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So we have talked about this before and as a

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reflection about the situation we want to be positive but to find back to true real money

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like gold and silver.

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A gold standard or silver standard.

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And also bitcoin is real money.

Martin:

And there if you do on stsh and that's the designation for satoshi.

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If you go to like currency world.

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Currency world and type in on the Satoshi converter 221905 in Swedish crowns or Swedish

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krona it's then 2,537 in US dollar is now 232.

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So if somebody would send that to us we will get $232.

Martin:

When I created it some years ago it was around $50 or 500 Swedish crowns.

Martin:

So that's something to reflect on.

Martin:

How did this happen? And so this is really, you know, putting the

Martin:

flag in the ground or how you say it, a stake in this.

Blair:

Yeah, stake in the ground.

Blair:

That's right.

Martin:

Yeah. So something to reflect on.

Martin:

And I again want to do a shout out to Sam

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Setti of Truefence FM.

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My goal is to onboard all our guests, 30 plus

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guests who wants that?

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So we could give a split in satoshis to them and also how they could support us in our work

Martin:

and the listen out there if they want.

Martin:

But they could also use this as Adam Curry

Martin:

saying fun Fiat coupon and Send us via PayPal for example or Stripe and they go to the

Martin:

Captivate support page and there they could donate and again thanks to you that have done

Martin:

it in the past.

Martin:

And we how do you say thanks in advance for you who do that in the future.

Martin:

So at the end Blair, do you want to hear some short stats?

Blair:

Yes, go for it.

Martin:

Yeah. So we are around again around 7 downloads per day and we will talk more about

Martin:

that.

Martin:

The importance in the future is how long you

Martin:

listen and how you'll interact because that you could look at TrueFans FM in a positive

Martin:

gamification.

Martin:

So we have a like latest episode is around 70 downloads for now with Scott Powell and that's

Martin:

great latest cycle.

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I saw it was some blip there or so it could be

Martin:

something with the bots or something download in mid January.

Martin:

But other than that it's about 7 downloads per day around that and in the cycle of 28 days,

Martin:

and here are the countries where the listeners are coming from.

Martin:

You, the listener.

Martin:

United Kingdom is now on the top.

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This cycle of 96.

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And then United States 64, Canada 9, Hong Kong 6, Sweden 5.

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For some reason, India 4, Spain 3.

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Australia, Colombia 2, Japan 2 and Norway 2

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and Belgium 1 and Ireland 1.

Martin:

That's 10 list for this last 28 day cycle.

Blair:

Great.

Blair:

Hello to everyone and thank you.

Martin:

Yeah.

Blair:

And I was going to say something and it just completely slipped my mind, so.

Martin:

It's okay.

Martin:

It's all good.

Blair:

It is, it's all good.

Blair:

But unfortunately, Martin, I do have to run.

Martin:

Yeah.

Blair:

And I appreciate again you throwing this together.

Blair:

Yeah.

Blair:

And again, just everyone.

Blair:

Iran is one of the greatest human beings, the second greatest human being that ever lived,

Blair:

in my personal opinion.

Blair:

The first one being Aristotle.

Blair:

And our show will continue.

Martin:

Yes.

Blair:

And this is what I thought.

Blair:

Here we go.

Blair:

Two upcoming guests that I hope to entertain you with would be Professor James Lennox.

Blair:

And we'll interview him on his latest book, Aristotle on Inquiry.

Blair:

And hope to reach out to Brad Thompson of Clemson to talk about his work and his Lyceum

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scholarship program.

Blair:

So those are two upcoming shows that will happen soon.

Blair:

And that's a wrap for me.

Martin:

Yeah. Great, Blair, thanks.

Martin:

And talk to you soon again.

Blair:

Thank you, Martin.

Blair:

I appreciate everything you do, you know that.

Martin:

Yeah, same.

Martin:

I say the same.

Martin:

Bye for now.

Blair:

All right. Bye. Bye.

Blair:

Ra.