1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:10,740 Mike: The following presentation is brought to you by The Pride of ODU, the official NIL collective of All Dominion Athletics. 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,290 Be a Monarchist. 3 00:00:12,930 --> 00:00:23,029 Join The Pride. 4 00:00:26,599 --> 00:00:28,150 Monarch Nation. 5 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:32,629 It's another victory Sunday, the second in three weeks. 6 00:00:32,689 --> 00:00:36,239 Old Dominion beats, Georgia State 21 to 14. 7 00:00:36,970 --> 00:00:37,820 Let's talk about it. 8 00:00:37,860 --> 00:00:39,960 But first, Gary, how you doing? 9 00:00:40,099 --> 00:00:40,789 How was the trip? 10 00:00:41,529 --> 00:00:42,369 Gary: I'm doing great. 11 00:00:42,739 --> 00:00:43,600 Trip was awesome. 12 00:00:43,610 --> 00:00:45,859 Nice to come out of there with a win. 13 00:00:46,259 --> 00:00:50,269 Got a decent flight back was back in Richmond before one o'clock today. 14 00:00:50,269 --> 00:00:54,109 So feeling good and ready for the fun bank holiday tomorrow. 15 00:00:55,010 --> 00:00:57,749 Mike: Must be nice health care that does not exist. 16 00:00:57,769 --> 00:01:01,979 The main topic of conversation has to be this defensive performance yesterday. 17 00:01:02,619 --> 00:01:12,829 And, uh, I mean, that D line and our performance against the run and the pass just maybe the best performance we've seen for the defensive front. 18 00:01:13,329 --> 00:01:14,100 All year. 19 00:01:15,379 --> 00:01:19,149 Gary: Yeah, in my opinion, it was absolutely the best game of the season for the defensive line. 20 00:01:19,149 --> 00:01:24,599 I mean, Denzel Lowry and Maury Morrison, Chris Trinidad, they were eaten on just about every play. 21 00:01:24,649 --> 00:01:26,639 Like they were pushing that offensive line back. 22 00:01:26,919 --> 00:01:31,860 We see it show up in the stat sheet as well with, we have nine tackles for a loss in that game. 23 00:01:32,219 --> 00:01:33,099 Uh, that's huge. 24 00:01:33,189 --> 00:01:41,389 We had three sacks, uh, just a, a, a nice bounce back performance for the defense after, uh, you know, we were on a pretty good after the coastal game. 25 00:01:43,104 --> 00:01:44,255 Mike: Yeah, absolutely. 26 00:01:44,285 --> 00:01:49,914 Um, and I want to give some credit to Mario Easterly in the secondary. 27 00:01:50,354 --> 00:01:52,705 He performed very well for us yesterday. 28 00:01:53,345 --> 00:02:05,394 Um, I know he's kind of more of a reserve, but he played like a starter yesterday and it was needed in a game where our offense could kind of just kept shooting themselves in the foot. 29 00:02:07,525 --> 00:02:09,264 Gary: Mario had a great game. 30 00:02:09,264 --> 00:02:10,495 Him and Jaron back there. 31 00:02:10,505 --> 00:02:12,755 It's safeties was a big plus for us. 32 00:02:13,170 --> 00:02:18,820 And Georgia State challenged us early with a lot of deep balls and defense responded well, they had good coverage. 33 00:02:19,140 --> 00:02:23,870 Um, they got pressure which forced some bad throws, especially some deep balls down the field. 34 00:02:24,060 --> 00:02:28,310 And Rankin almost had a first half interception in addition to the big one he had in the second. 35 00:02:28,859 --> 00:02:36,890 Uh, we, we talked about on the podcast last week of Coastal Carolina look like a team that spent their entire bi week preparing to attack our defense. 36 00:02:37,255 --> 00:02:40,204 And I believe that is even more true now for two reasons. 37 00:02:40,204 --> 00:02:44,505 It's one, the way our defense played on Saturday, they were, they were lights out there, fantastic. 38 00:02:44,804 --> 00:02:48,295 And then two coastal went to JMU and got absolutely destroyed. 39 00:02:48,295 --> 00:02:50,234 They could not do anything on offense. 40 00:02:50,244 --> 00:02:55,935 So they prepared for us, but apparently not JMU and, uh, they're one and one now in the Sunbelt East. 41 00:02:58,975 --> 00:02:59,245 Mike: Yeah. 42 00:02:59,245 --> 00:03:01,455 The East race is getting really interesting. 43 00:03:01,565 --> 00:03:06,005 Especially with JMU now being one in one, we're one in one, it's wide open, 44 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:14,230 Gary: I don't think I would have ever guessed that Georgia Southern would be sitting here 2 and 0, and App State would be 0 and 3 in the Sun Belt. 45 00:03:15,090 --> 00:03:18,349 Just completely flipped what a lot of people thought was going to happen this year. 46 00:03:20,419 --> 00:03:24,410 Mike: Yeah, and I was, uh, I'm pretty, I've been pretty wrong so far in Marshall. 47 00:03:24,410 --> 00:03:28,540 I thought they were going to be, uh, A team that would be struggling to make a bowl. 48 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,470 Um, they're one in one right now, but they're outperforming my expectation for them. 49 00:03:35,780 --> 00:03:35,940 Gary: Yeah. 50 00:03:35,940 --> 00:03:39,330 Curious to see how they bounce back after blowing the lead down at Georgia Southern. 51 00:03:39,330 --> 00:03:42,560 Cause they really had that game in hand early on and ended up losing late. 52 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:44,710 So interesting to see how they bounce back, man. 53 00:03:44,710 --> 00:03:45,959 Sunbelt is just crazy. 54 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,120 Louisiana Monroe three and Oh, in the West. 55 00:03:49,660 --> 00:03:50,650 Unbelievable. 56 00:03:51,730 --> 00:03:52,180 Mike: Yeah. 57 00:03:52,260 --> 00:03:55,020 Um, so I was looking at PFF earlier today. 58 00:03:55,885 --> 00:03:59,085 And it confirmed what we've been talking about. 59 00:03:59,435 --> 00:04:05,955 We have the best rush defense in the Sun Belt, according to the PFF, at this point in the season. 60 00:04:06,665 --> 00:04:09,975 Yesterday we held them to two yards per carry. 61 00:04:11,375 --> 00:04:12,585 That is phenomenal. 62 00:04:13,765 --> 00:04:14,375 Gary: Pretty good. 63 00:04:14,785 --> 00:04:15,545 Pretty solid. 64 00:04:17,565 --> 00:04:19,285 Mike: Nine tackles for loss. 65 00:04:19,445 --> 00:04:22,895 Another fantastic performance there. 66 00:04:23,714 --> 00:04:24,604 Will Jones Jr. 67 00:04:24,605 --> 00:04:25,414 has two. 68 00:04:25,734 --> 00:04:27,155 Amorie Morrison has two. 69 00:04:27,155 --> 00:04:28,815 Jahleel Culbreth had two. 70 00:04:29,245 --> 00:04:34,520 Mario has Maybe the most important, fumble recovery we've had in a long time. 71 00:04:36,789 --> 00:04:40,739 Just, uh, that was fun that watching that defense play yesterday was fun. 72 00:04:41,869 --> 00:04:43,840 Gary: Yeah, they were smooth and free flowing. 73 00:04:43,890 --> 00:04:46,949 We were rotating still a lot of guys in the defensive back. 74 00:04:46,949 --> 00:04:51,719 I think at the first six defensive plays, I counted nine different DBs that came on the field. 75 00:04:52,059 --> 00:04:54,090 So you're, you're seeing that depth come through. 76 00:04:54,090 --> 00:04:55,249 We looked pretty fresh. 77 00:04:55,289 --> 00:05:01,409 We actually won the time of possession battle, uh, which is, is pretty, pretty awesome to do that and make sure that you win. 78 00:05:01,470 --> 00:05:04,929 Yeah, Jahleel Culbreth, I thought played really well. 79 00:05:04,959 --> 00:05:08,099 He ended up with five tackles, five solo tackles, actually. 80 00:05:08,779 --> 00:05:10,869 We talked about Will Jones and his tackle for a loss. 81 00:05:11,709 --> 00:05:19,029 That sack that he had where he just basically just flew through the middle of the offensive line and hit the quarterback. 82 00:05:19,379 --> 00:05:21,789 It was a huge, huge play, really athletic play. 83 00:05:22,479 --> 00:05:28,079 Did not over pursue, didn't miss the quarterback because he was running at full speed and opted. 84 00:05:28,789 --> 00:05:32,209 So, uh, Love watching that defense eat yesterday. 85 00:05:32,239 --> 00:05:35,630 You felt like we were going to be in that game, no matter what, just because of how well they were playing. 86 00:05:36,889 --> 00:05:37,389 Mike: All right. 87 00:05:37,499 --> 00:05:40,439 Um, yeah, defense was fantastic. 88 00:05:40,919 --> 00:05:42,149 I'm looking for that time possession. 89 00:05:42,149 --> 00:05:44,159 I did not realize we won that. 90 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,129 It 91 00:05:45,209 --> 00:05:46,019 Gary: wasn't by a lot. 92 00:05:46,019 --> 00:05:47,379 I think it was by maybe 32 to 27. 93 00:05:49,109 --> 00:05:49,499 Yeah. 94 00:05:49,570 --> 00:05:49,859 32 95 00:05:50,139 --> 00:05:52,499 Mike: 45 to 27 15. 96 00:05:52,579 --> 00:05:56,349 So when was the last time we won the time of possession? 97 00:05:56,449 --> 00:05:56,539 I 98 00:05:57,919 --> 00:06:03,709 Gary: think we may have actually won the time of possession battle at Coastal, but it was within seconds of their time of possession. 99 00:06:03,719 --> 00:06:06,519 This is the biggest advantage we've had there in a while. 100 00:06:06,989 --> 00:06:11,409 Uh, and we were really smart on offense in that fourth quarter. 101 00:06:11,469 --> 00:06:12,889 We went to a ground and pound. 102 00:06:12,899 --> 00:06:15,279 We took almost the entire play clock off. 103 00:06:15,719 --> 00:06:22,109 Uh, I mean, we know that this offense has looked completely different in the last couple of weeks, very different with Colton Joseph at quarterback. 104 00:06:22,564 --> 00:06:27,104 Uh, but it seems like we're trying to go less hurry up, less tempo and more. 105 00:06:27,294 --> 00:06:30,864 Let's control the clock, control possession, keep our defense off the field. 106 00:06:31,164 --> 00:06:34,214 And that's really what we've needed to see over the last couple of years. 107 00:06:34,244 --> 00:06:41,274 Once this clear, this high flying attack was not going to, going to work for what we wanted to do is not the best match with the defense that we had. 108 00:06:41,674 --> 00:06:44,974 Uh, so I've been really pleased with the changes on the offensive side of the ball. 109 00:06:44,974 --> 00:06:50,154 You've got to give that coach and staff credit for kind of swallowing the pride and ego and making the changes that need to be made. 110 00:06:51,714 --> 00:06:58,574 Mike: Yeah, I'm still not quite happy with some of our passing calls, , way too many deep shots. 111 00:06:59,374 --> 00:07:03,654 I'd like to get back to more of that intermediate and short area. 112 00:07:04,154 --> 00:07:09,394 Um, it works and it helps make drives more successful. 113 00:07:10,335 --> 00:07:12,455 Gary: Case in point on that Pat Conroy yesterday. 114 00:07:12,825 --> 00:07:15,335 almost all of his routes were towards the middle of the field. 115 00:07:15,344 --> 00:07:16,544 He had seven targets. 116 00:07:16,594 --> 00:07:20,294 He had a career high seven catches 43 yards after the catch. 117 00:07:20,685 --> 00:07:22,285 Uh, heck of a day. 118 00:07:22,285 --> 00:07:26,325 And I, I asked coach Rahne about that in the postgame press conference. 119 00:07:26,325 --> 00:07:30,584 It kind of indicated to him that Pat was becoming a fan favorite because of how tough he is. 120 00:07:30,974 --> 00:07:39,115 And he said, you have no idea how tough he is and what he's having to do just to be able to go out on the field and play with whatever injuries and pain he's dealing with. 121 00:07:39,575 --> 00:07:40,425 Uh, cause he's really. 122 00:07:40,770 --> 00:07:44,750 The only tight end that we have active on the roster and he's out there so many plays. 123 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,319 So, I mean, you want a toughness award. 124 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,320 I think Pat Conroy is well ahead of the rest on getting it and we have a tough team. 125 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,230 Mike: Yeah, there was one play. 126 00:07:55,230 --> 00:08:04,950 I saw where his leg kind of got grabbed as he was going down and you can see him getting up pretty gingerly, stretching it out and just runs right back to line up. 127 00:08:06,259 --> 00:08:06,960 So yeah, he's 128 00:08:09,669 --> 00:08:12,599 missing him would be so bad for us. 129 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:19,879 So I'm happy he continues to fight through all of this and produce, I mean, 43 yards after the catch yesterday. 130 00:08:19,999 --> 00:08:20,159 That's 131 00:08:21,739 --> 00:08:23,879 Gary: a lot for a tight end in our offense. 132 00:08:23,930 --> 00:08:24,539 That's a lot. 133 00:08:26,189 --> 00:08:29,750 Mike: Considering he had 61 yards, 43 of those came after the catch. 134 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:30,849 I mean, that's phenomenal. 135 00:08:32,109 --> 00:08:40,579 Gary: That is, that's developing a good relationship with your new quarterback, getting to space, following him when he's rolling out of the pocket and moving around in the pocket. 136 00:08:41,099 --> 00:08:41,309 I just. 137 00:08:42,059 --> 00:08:46,450 Pat Conroy might be the surprise to me on offense, uh, in terms of production. 138 00:08:46,829 --> 00:08:53,629 Like, he kind of just got thrown in the fire when other guys were down and, man, he is, he's stepped up in a really big way for us this year. 139 00:08:53,629 --> 00:08:55,589 So, salute to Pat. 140 00:08:57,479 --> 00:09:01,819 Mike: And he's an example that there's ballers at all levels of college football. 141 00:09:01,849 --> 00:09:05,770 I mean, he came here from, what, Merrimack, which is what, what's that, D3? 142 00:09:05,770 --> 00:09:05,780 I 143 00:09:06,629 --> 00:09:07,379 Gary: think so, yeah. 144 00:09:08,579 --> 00:09:13,790 Mike: So, I mean, the fact that I found him, pretty awesome, but. 145 00:09:15,505 --> 00:09:21,485 It just makes you wonder how many other guys are like that out there that we just don't know about because they're playing division three ball. 146 00:09:23,005 --> 00:09:26,224 Gary: Yeah, he does not look like a division three player on the field right now. 147 00:09:26,394 --> 00:09:27,214 I can tell you that. 148 00:09:27,785 --> 00:09:34,854 Uh, and someone else in this offense that really stepped up on saturday to reek Sims with Aaron Young being out with the injury. 149 00:09:34,885 --> 00:09:38,655 It was three headed monster in the backfield and there was really no drop off. 150 00:09:39,035 --> 00:09:41,515 Um, he had a career high in rushing yards. 151 00:09:41,839 --> 00:09:45,160 His previous career high in rushing guards was actually against Georgia State as well. 152 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:47,650 Happy to see him get the touchdown. 153 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,699 Uh, I asked him about that, that touchdown run afterwards. 154 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:53,479 And I, and you know, there was great blocking there. 155 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:59,919 Santana Saunders and, uh, Stephon DuBose Borne did a great job of just sealing that run and opening a big hole for him. 156 00:09:59,919 --> 00:10:00,960 He ran right through. 157 00:10:01,319 --> 00:10:09,969 I'm happy to see him, his hard work pay off, getting into the end zone again for us and hopefully becoming a more steady rotation piece there in that backfield. 158 00:10:09,970 --> 00:10:09,989 FOLLOW US! 159 00:10:11,970 --> 00:10:21,959 Mike: Yeah, and early in the game, our guy Elijah Hoskins, who was just given a scholarship, we see him go down with an injury and he's replaced by Woodsma. 160 00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:28,069 I was worried about that at that moment, uh, what our offensive line would look like the rest of the day. 161 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:32,339 And we produced on the ground, especially with Colton in those backs. 162 00:10:32,805 --> 00:10:39,944 228 yards on the ground, so we didn't see much change there yesterday. 163 00:10:41,255 --> 00:10:47,675 Gary: The run game really took off in the second half and I think it has a lot to do with Colton Joseph leading the charge there with rushing. 164 00:10:47,724 --> 00:11:01,415 They had to account for him more defensively, so that gave a little bit more breathing room for our running backs, made things a little bit easier on our offensive line too, but that move to have him run a little bit more there in the second half really, really opened things up for us. 165 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:02,829 You know, Big Wu. 166 00:11:02,829 --> 00:11:04,900 He definitely had some tough plays. 167 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,300 He got a couple holding calls. 168 00:11:06,310 --> 00:11:07,420 He's got to tighten that up. 169 00:11:07,849 --> 00:11:13,379 But, there wasn't a huge drop off like I was expecting when Hoskins went down. 170 00:11:13,709 --> 00:11:17,359 And feel for Hoskins, you know, he went down in the last game against Coastal. 171 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:23,170 Um, I think his family was telling me he had broken that ankle in high school and all of that. 172 00:11:23,170 --> 00:11:24,700 So, it didn't look good. 173 00:11:24,730 --> 00:11:27,230 He was able to walk to the sideline and got carted to the locker room. 174 00:11:27,230 --> 00:11:28,569 So, wishing him nothing but the best. 175 00:11:28,569 --> 00:11:28,704 That's it. 176 00:11:29,194 --> 00:11:32,454 Hopefully he's able to do that miracle again and come back and play next week. 177 00:11:34,004 --> 00:11:36,425 Mike: Yeah, we'll be praying for you, Elijah. 178 00:11:37,884 --> 00:11:38,374 All right. 179 00:11:38,925 --> 00:11:40,545 I keep going back to this defense. 180 00:11:41,925 --> 00:11:46,394 How many critical plays they made, especially late in the game. 181 00:11:46,395 --> 00:11:48,915 We're up 21 14. 182 00:11:49,645 --> 00:11:55,454 Georgia State gets the onside kick with their box out and the very lucky roll for them. 183 00:11:56,425 --> 00:12:02,835 Um, and we come up huge with the sack, the strip sack fumble, uh, just 184 00:12:05,145 --> 00:12:06,965 everything you need from a defense. 185 00:12:06,965 --> 00:12:07,844 They did yesterday. 186 00:12:09,675 --> 00:12:17,475 Gary: They kept stepping up and I think we got caught off guard a little bit on that on side kick because we were on the north side of the two minute timeout. 187 00:12:17,545 --> 00:12:19,714 Georgia State had their timeouts. 188 00:12:19,715 --> 00:12:22,465 The typical thought there is they're going to kick it away. 189 00:12:22,895 --> 00:12:24,664 Uh, we did have the hands team out there. 190 00:12:24,665 --> 00:12:26,835 We were, you know, we weren't caught off guard in that respect. 191 00:12:27,325 --> 00:12:54,690 But it was a really weird onside kick like that has to be the longest onside kick I've ever seen that ball like It was rolling like a yard a second it felt like and we were just not aggressive to go up and get the ball or Should do in that situation is act like you're going for it and swat it out of bounds That's what probably should have happened on that play But we kind of were waiting for it to roll 10 yards and it kept going and by the time it hit 10 yards, Georgia State was completely surrounding it. 192 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:02,200 So we have to tighten that up in practice and be more prepared because that's, uh, that's not something you want on film to get to expose you later on. 193 00:13:03,119 --> 00:13:05,449 But luckily defense is there to bail it out. 194 00:13:05,450 --> 00:13:14,870 Like you said, I mean, that's a, that's a huge play from Kris Trinidad to come off the edge like that, uh, stay away from anyone blocking them and lay a huge hit on the quarterback strip that ball out. 195 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,520 And then Mario Thompson's right there to. 196 00:13:16,975 --> 00:13:18,935 scoop it up and we kneeled it out. 197 00:13:21,235 --> 00:13:26,585 Mike: Yeah, and it's one of the few times a season where one of those fumbles bounced our way. 198 00:13:27,055 --> 00:13:27,974 Uh, so 199 00:13:28,985 --> 00:13:29,534 Gary: I'll take it. 200 00:13:29,634 --> 00:13:35,674 I also I also take responsibility for that onside kick and also the second touchdown that Georgia State scored. 201 00:13:36,264 --> 00:13:39,545 It's completely my fault because we were up 21 to 7. 202 00:13:39,725 --> 00:13:40,455 We had the ball. 203 00:13:40,455 --> 00:13:41,415 We were running the clock out. 204 00:13:41,955 --> 00:13:43,235 And I had to go to ODU sports. 205 00:13:43,465 --> 00:13:46,675 com and look at the schedule and go back to 2022. 206 00:13:46,675 --> 00:13:51,915 And I was looking for the last time that we won a game by more than two possessions that I was going to tweet that out. 207 00:13:52,535 --> 00:13:54,904 The second I looked that up, Georgia state scored a touchdown. 208 00:13:54,904 --> 00:13:56,305 So I just X out of the window. 209 00:13:56,425 --> 00:14:00,615 So that that's on me for, uh, I think looking a little too far ahead because guess what? 210 00:14:00,944 --> 00:14:02,165 Another one score game for old. 211 00:14:04,595 --> 00:14:04,935 Mike: Yeah. 212 00:14:05,375 --> 00:14:09,325 The list of one score games these last few seasons is getting ridiculously long. 213 00:14:11,495 --> 00:14:11,775 What? 214 00:14:12,535 --> 00:14:17,105 Two games this season that weren't, or I guess one, really, just Virginia Tech, right? 215 00:14:17,755 --> 00:14:22,414 Gary: Yeah, Virginia Tech is two of the last three games that were not won possession. 216 00:14:22,774 --> 00:14:23,515 It was those two. 217 00:14:23,515 --> 00:14:23,854 And the other 218 00:14:23,854 --> 00:14:25,754 Mike: is Louisiana, I assume, right? 219 00:14:26,424 --> 00:14:28,164 Gary: Oh, no, Liberty. 220 00:14:30,084 --> 00:14:31,034 Mike: Oh, yeah. 221 00:14:31,105 --> 00:14:32,744 Gary: It's a 222 00:14:32,745 --> 00:14:34,195 Mike: game I burned out of my memory. 223 00:14:35,225 --> 00:14:37,915 Gary: Yeah, I keep trying to every single day. 224 00:14:38,275 --> 00:14:44,455 The last time we had a Sunbelt game that wasn't one possession was at App State in November of 2022. 225 00:14:47,474 --> 00:14:50,975 So we're coming up on two years since the last time we were not in a one score Sunbelt game. 226 00:14:51,715 --> 00:14:57,595 That, that just tells you how tough it is and how we've missed some opportunities over the last two years. 227 00:14:59,550 --> 00:15:07,809 Mike: But it shows you our competitiveness and how far we've come as a program that we are competitive in each and every game and we're going out there. 228 00:15:09,150 --> 00:15:11,270 Gary: There's not a team battle tested in crunch time. 229 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,650 I gotta give a little bit of that. 230 00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:19,510 Mike: Yeah, I want to get take a moment to give some credit to peanut Houston. 231 00:15:19,510 --> 00:15:24,240 He doesn't get a whole lot of snaps, but he has his first career touchdown at Old Dominion. 232 00:15:24,380 --> 00:15:25,920 His first touchdown since 2022. 233 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:26,590 2022. 234 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:35,530 And it was a critical one and I don't know if you can say it, but you told me something earlier that I found really interesting. 235 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:46,350 Gary: Uh, yeah, I can tell you because coach Ronnie said in the postgame press conference, but the two plays before he had that touchdown catch, the corner that was covering him punched him in the face on both plays. 236 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,280 And coach Ronnie said, peanut did not retaliate. 237 00:15:50,730 --> 00:15:51,460 He took it. 238 00:15:51,510 --> 00:15:56,889 He went back to the line, did his job and kind of got the ultimate last there with the, with the touchdown catch. 239 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:05,260 Uh, but the There's a lot of little things like that, and Coach Ronnie alluded to that, um, that go on during the game that sometimes you miss that aren't on the broadcast. 240 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:11,980 The other one I will tell you is the interception that Colton Joseph threw that got called back for a penalty. 241 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:17,490 Uh, he's kind of in the middle of the field where he would have been in the pocket, the return's coming down the sideline. 242 00:16:18,070 --> 00:16:24,710 Uh, there was a defender that had him pinned to the ground, had the full mount, was grabbing him by the front of his jersey and pads. 243 00:16:25,010 --> 00:16:27,909 and just banging the back of his head into the turf. 244 00:16:28,589 --> 00:16:30,409 The referee went over there and broke it up. 245 00:16:30,950 --> 00:16:32,040 No flag on the play. 246 00:16:32,099 --> 00:16:32,599 Nothing. 247 00:16:32,770 --> 00:16:41,549 Uh, I guess that's legal in the Sun Belt, but it's little things like that that may happen a little bit outside of camera view that can create reactions that then get the flag. 248 00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:48,379 But kind of getting tired of all these little cheap shots and chippy and unsportsmanlike things. 249 00:16:48,379 --> 00:16:50,389 And it's typically against Georgia State. 250 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:52,339 If you remember last year with Lamareon James. 251 00:16:55,169 --> 00:17:06,339 Mike: Yeah, um, we were kind of warned of that last year with how their coach was and I remember them telling us to watch them warm up and, uh, yeah, they were, 252 00:17:08,780 --> 00:17:10,240 I'm glad he's not their coach anymore. 253 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:10,919 I'll just say that. 254 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,119 Gary: Yeah. 255 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:13,750 Yeah. 256 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,450 Hoping, hoping that culture turns around a little bit. 257 00:17:16,510 --> 00:17:18,569 Um, I think they're going to be good in the future. 258 00:17:18,569 --> 00:17:19,979 I think they have the right coaching staff. 259 00:17:19,990 --> 00:17:21,950 They do have some playmakers on their team now. 260 00:17:21,950 --> 00:17:22,540 I mean, obviously. 261 00:17:22,925 --> 00:17:26,505 They beat Vanderbilt, and Vanderbilt beat Bama, who beat Georgia. 262 00:17:26,835 --> 00:17:29,875 We actually, uh, someone pointed out that we completed the circle of suck. 263 00:17:30,295 --> 00:17:32,965 Because Alabama beat South Carolina, who beat us. 264 00:17:32,975 --> 00:17:35,514 So you can just go in that circle of who lost to who all day. 265 00:17:35,515 --> 00:17:39,374 Um, Yeah, it was, it was chippy. 266 00:17:39,645 --> 00:17:41,415 And you could hear everything that was happening on the field. 267 00:17:41,435 --> 00:17:46,715 Because there were maybe 1, 500, 2, 000 fans in the old Ted Turner field. 268 00:17:47,835 --> 00:17:49,325 Mike: So talk to us about that. 269 00:17:49,375 --> 00:17:53,665 Uh, you went to the game, you went to the tailgate, the alumni tailgate. 270 00:17:54,095 --> 00:17:58,105 Talk to us about the experience and how much it's changed since you last went two years ago. 271 00:17:59,475 --> 00:18:03,965 Gary: Yeah, they've done a really good job of building up everything around that football stadium. 272 00:18:04,304 --> 00:18:11,965 Uh, last time I went there, there was some construction going on, but we had to go to a barbecue place and have to take the lock off the door so we could get a beer. 273 00:18:12,435 --> 00:18:13,465 Very different now. 274 00:18:14,085 --> 00:18:17,945 A lot of really nice new condos and apartments, restaurants, bars. 275 00:18:17,945 --> 00:18:19,385 We went to a really cool beer garden. 276 00:18:19,395 --> 00:18:21,255 It's like two blocks off the stadium. 277 00:18:21,545 --> 00:18:25,495 Like good food, great beer, uh, definitely a better environment around the stadium. 278 00:18:25,495 --> 00:18:33,085 Now, um, the ODU alumni association had their tailgate, uh, with the Atlanta chapter there, so shout out to, to Matt Harrell and Brett Scott. 279 00:18:33,095 --> 00:18:34,925 They did a fantastic job with that. 280 00:18:35,185 --> 00:18:38,555 Probably 50, 60, uh, ODU fans that came to that. 281 00:18:38,555 --> 00:18:39,555 We had a great time. 282 00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:42,610 Uh, some, uh, parents of players were there as well. 283 00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:46,240 I know that Barlev's were there, uh, Colton Joseph's parents were there as well. 284 00:18:46,860 --> 00:18:53,300 Uh, it was just a, it was a good, good vibe, good hangouts beforehand, but man, you come in the stadium and it's just a cavern. 285 00:18:53,549 --> 00:18:57,530 Like, the only thing that was loud in there was the PA system and the damn train horn that kept going off. 286 00:18:58,045 --> 00:19:07,174 Um, it's kind of sad, too, because like it's turned into a little bit better venue to watch football if you're in the stands, but they still use the old baseball press box. 287 00:19:07,175 --> 00:19:11,924 So those sight lines that Andy Mashaw and Ted were talking about on the radio broadcast are real. 288 00:19:12,085 --> 00:19:15,275 They can't see really anything from the end zone and not much better. 289 00:19:15,275 --> 00:19:17,265 A couple feet over from where they were. 290 00:19:18,365 --> 00:19:18,715 Mike: All right. 291 00:19:19,469 --> 00:19:20,769 I really want to talk about Colton. 292 00:19:21,559 --> 00:19:25,370 Uh, he's obviously the reason we won offensively. 293 00:19:26,090 --> 00:19:32,029 I mean, the defense won this game, but he put us in a position to win with his play on the ground. 294 00:19:32,149 --> 00:19:38,059 And, but I want to highlight some of his throws that should not have happened. 295 00:19:39,149 --> 00:19:56,845 Uh, we got lucky with a couple, the interception being called back due to penalty, uh, But, uh, we saw some rookie mistakes from him where we're freshmen mistakes of him just trying to extend the play when he might be better off throwing it away or taking the sack. 296 00:19:58,754 --> 00:19:59,015 Gary: Yeah. 297 00:19:59,024 --> 00:20:06,695 The interception through that counted, you know, he was rolling not arm side through across his body on a drag route into some coverage. 298 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:11,135 I mean, things are going to happen in your first couple games that you're going to play. 299 00:20:11,570 --> 00:20:12,999 And it's just things you got to grow from. 300 00:20:12,999 --> 00:20:16,459 He took some shots on the sideline before he was going out of bounds. 301 00:20:16,459 --> 00:20:27,769 So you're, you're right on the money there with just more reps, more things like that, that'll, that'll start to fall into place that he's got to protect himself a little bit because Grant was there, but he was not dressed out. 302 00:20:27,789 --> 00:20:30,390 And I don't know if he's gonna be dressed out for the rest of the season. 303 00:20:30,769 --> 00:20:36,059 And, uh, Quinn Henicle, like ton of potential there, shown some flashes, but he, he. 304 00:20:36,455 --> 00:20:40,334 Clearly needs like more time in the system before he's ready to kind of take the reins over there. 305 00:20:42,725 --> 00:20:48,095 Mike: Yeah, I mean, I'm confident in saying Colton is our best QB moving forward. 306 00:20:48,195 --> 00:21:03,334 I think he's the QB one because the offense just looks different with him and his ability to move around the pocket and his decision making have made me enjoy watching the offense again. 307 00:21:04,305 --> 00:21:06,245 He doesn't hesitate for those deep shots. 308 00:21:06,245 --> 00:21:07,625 He takes them when they're there. 309 00:21:09,395 --> 00:21:15,545 We could work a little bit on accuracy and all that, but it just looks better with him at quarterback. 310 00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:18,075 Gary: I agree. 311 00:21:18,075 --> 00:21:21,534 I don't, I don't think there's any doubt that he's QB one going forward. 312 00:21:21,995 --> 00:21:32,665 Um, Georgia state was doing a lot with the way they were disguising their coverage, especially in the first half to where they made it look like they kind of had like a cover one and they were running man press on the outside. 313 00:21:32,665 --> 00:21:34,735 Then they would shift and it was more like a. 314 00:21:35,565 --> 00:21:37,655 Cover two or quarters or something like that. 315 00:21:37,715 --> 00:21:39,895 So they were doing a lot to try to throw him off. 316 00:21:39,995 --> 00:21:44,835 And I think that's why we were a little more stagnant in the first half that we, we really struggled to run the football. 317 00:21:45,274 --> 00:21:53,125 Um, but as he started settling in, like he looked much better in the second half, making good decisions with his feet, continuing to keep his eyes downfield. 318 00:21:53,635 --> 00:21:56,014 Uh, there's, there's a ton of potential there. 319 00:21:56,215 --> 00:21:58,675 And I think it only gets better with, with more and more reps. 320 00:21:59,085 --> 00:22:06,820 And, uh, Aaron is still over and I think last check he was in Germany on a cruise watching the football game last night. 321 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,129 That's what I saw come through. 322 00:22:08,790 --> 00:22:11,200 He shot us a text just kind of giving his thoughts on the game. 323 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,420 So I want to read that to you all. 324 00:22:13,050 --> 00:22:17,800 Monarchs win and Colton logs valuable snaps and is allowed to grow into the QB one role. 325 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:22,040 Uh, it's a process is going to take time, but will bear fruit moving forward. 326 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:29,200 Uh, we continue to run the rock effectively, both from the running back and QB positions and hit a few timely passes when we desperately needed it. 327 00:22:29,754 --> 00:22:33,995 The defense's bounces, the defense bounces back, completely shuts down the run and we win. 328 00:22:34,304 --> 00:22:37,604 Saving the 50 yard Ethan Sanchez kick for next week. 329 00:22:38,564 --> 00:22:41,844 I think we know what Aaron's prediction is going to be for Texas State on Saturday. 330 00:22:42,955 --> 00:22:46,494 Mike: I think that is the prediction right there, uh, for Aaron. 331 00:22:47,194 --> 00:22:49,924 I hope he and his lovely wife are having a great time. 332 00:22:50,514 --> 00:22:55,014 Um, But do you have anything else on this game you want to talk about? 333 00:22:56,074 --> 00:23:00,494 Gary: Well, no, I mean, I, I do want to talk more about the end of the game, especially those last couple of minutes. 334 00:23:00,724 --> 00:23:10,674 Cause I'm sure that just like every other ODU fan out there, there were a lot of really bad thoughts creeping into your head after they scored the touchdown to make it to seven point game and got the onsite kick. 335 00:23:11,634 --> 00:23:13,475 I was, I was feeling that too. 336 00:23:13,554 --> 00:23:15,614 I was like, Oh shit, here we go. 337 00:23:15,949 --> 00:23:19,169 This is repayment for the crazy win we had against them last year. 338 00:23:19,789 --> 00:23:23,969 Seasons over all of those awful, terrible thoughts were in my head. 339 00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:30,580 Uh, I know that there were some, uh, some tweets that went out and we're floating around and there were a lot less of them about an hour after the game. 340 00:23:30,999 --> 00:23:34,459 Um, but yeah, I, I understand how ODU fans are feeling. 341 00:23:34,459 --> 00:23:38,989 Cause I was feeling the same way, uh, some table pounding in the press box for sure. 342 00:23:39,409 --> 00:23:41,219 But thankfully the defense stepped up. 343 00:23:41,589 --> 00:23:45,409 And it was a game that we, was essentially a must win for us, and we won it. 344 00:23:45,739 --> 00:23:47,460 Wasn't pretty, wasn't perfect. 345 00:23:47,739 --> 00:23:48,980 Defense played really well. 346 00:23:49,379 --> 00:23:53,850 Still have a lot of work to do, but winning that game keeps goals in mind. 347 00:23:53,850 --> 00:23:56,860 It keeps us right in the mix to go win the Sunbelt East. 348 00:23:57,239 --> 00:24:00,509 And the most important thing to do in that game was to win, and that's what we did. 349 00:24:00,889 --> 00:24:06,659 And we took two out of three of these really difficult Rogue games against pretty good teams. 350 00:24:07,044 --> 00:24:11,844 And that's not something I was super confident about coming into this three game road stretch. 351 00:24:12,114 --> 00:24:12,994 Now we have to come home. 352 00:24:13,434 --> 00:24:15,654 We got one on Saturday, turn around quick Thursday. 353 00:24:15,984 --> 00:24:19,094 We win both of those and I think everyone feels a lot differently about the rest of the season. 354 00:24:21,114 --> 00:24:23,954 Mike: Yeah, it's uh, better to win ugly than, 355 00:24:26,424 --> 00:24:28,245 it's just better to win ugly than, yeah. 356 00:24:33,224 --> 00:24:38,054 Alright, I guess before we move on to Texas State, I need to talk about the watch party yesterday. 357 00:24:38,609 --> 00:24:39,709 Gary: Oh, yeah, that looked awesome. 358 00:24:39,719 --> 00:24:39,969 Great 359 00:24:40,189 --> 00:24:43,069 Mike: turnout again by our Old Dominion fans. 360 00:24:43,309 --> 00:24:44,789 It seems to be growing each week. 361 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:47,419 We're getting more new people we've never met before. 362 00:24:47,779 --> 00:24:51,559 We're getting more people to join the collective and just have a really good time. 363 00:24:51,739 --> 00:24:54,439 Um, the energy has been awesome. 364 00:24:54,709 --> 00:25:00,229 The Alstons joined us yesterday and they enjoyed that ending just as much as we did. 365 00:25:00,979 --> 00:25:03,359 Uh, a lot of Monarch was drank. 366 00:25:04,509 --> 00:25:07,509 We are out of kegs, but you can get them to can pour you there. 367 00:25:07,579 --> 00:25:10,999 So I think that's, uh, the move moving forward. 368 00:25:11,294 --> 00:25:14,284 There are cans for people coming in for homecoming. 369 00:25:14,294 --> 00:25:17,834 So make sure you stop by and pick up a four pack or more. 370 00:25:18,824 --> 00:25:27,374 Um, and then next Friday we'll be having our next pep rally at afterglow to get ready for Texas state. 371 00:25:28,314 --> 00:25:34,544 So at this point, we're going to take a moment to recognize the pride and we'll be right back. 372 00:25:34,545 --> 00:25:35,124 This episode of the monarchist 373 00:25:37,804 --> 00:25:42,034 podcast is brought to you by the pride of ODU collective. 374 00:25:42,929 --> 00:25:49,929 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they're four and two right now, one and one on the road. 384 00:26:42,569 --> 00:26:45,569 What's your your main concern going forward with this game? 385 00:26:46,989 --> 00:26:50,309 Gary: I mean, their offense is really good. 386 00:26:50,529 --> 00:26:54,829 In my opinion, the best offense in the Sun Belt, and I don't think it's particularly close. 387 00:26:55,559 --> 00:27:01,209 You talked about the JMU to Texas State. 388 00:27:01,689 --> 00:27:03,589 He's been elite this year. 389 00:27:03,729 --> 00:27:10,759 I mean, completing 71 percent of his passes is over 1700 yards, 19 touchdowns, only five interceptions. 390 00:27:10,769 --> 00:27:12,489 He's only been sacked five times. 391 00:27:12,490 --> 00:27:14,039 He does it on the ground as well. 392 00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:16,959 He's got 202 yards rushing, averaging 6. 393 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,379 1 yards of carry with four rushing touchdowns. 394 00:27:19,699 --> 00:27:22,839 Uh, he is a problem and you're going to have to hit him. 395 00:27:22,879 --> 00:27:23,949 You're going to have to contain him. 396 00:27:23,989 --> 00:27:25,159 You're going to have to cover well. 397 00:27:25,499 --> 00:27:28,649 Like, no matter how good our defense is, they are going to give up points in this game. 398 00:27:29,169 --> 00:27:32,559 That's just a fact of life with Texas State coming in. 399 00:27:32,979 --> 00:27:38,729 Um, I think they can do a good job of limiting them and not letting them get up in the 40s and the 50s. 400 00:27:38,729 --> 00:27:46,299 But then you kind of have to ask yourself the question, if Texas State puts up 30, 33 points, can our offense match that? 401 00:27:46,299 --> 00:27:52,049 Can they bring back that offensive prowess they had against Coastal and get into a shootout? 402 00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:54,529 Because I think ultimately that's where this game ends up being. 403 00:27:54,529 --> 00:27:57,939 It's going to be, uh, going to be bobby ball again. 404 00:27:58,709 --> 00:28:00,749 Touchdowns up and down the field is what it seems like. 405 00:28:03,099 --> 00:28:03,499 Mike: Yeah. 406 00:28:03,549 --> 00:28:11,239 And, uh, while we're talking about it, I got to give credit to Ishmael Mahdi, he's having a fantastic year, uh, year 5. 407 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,559 2 yards per carry 507 on the year. 408 00:28:15,329 --> 00:28:20,429 Um, he's just a workhorse and he's getting done on the ground. 409 00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,190 Jordan McLeod, who you already mentioned, he's got 6. 410 00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:24,559 1 yards per carry. 411 00:28:24,579 --> 00:28:30,119 So, uh, they are a pass based offense, but they can run the damn ball. 412 00:28:32,154 --> 00:28:39,474 Gary: Yeah, their offense runs similar to the one that we've been trying to run where they spread you out, they get the ball out of the quarterback's hand very quickly. 413 00:28:39,844 --> 00:28:44,814 And then if they get the numbers advantage, they're going to run on you so they can run, they can pass, they can do a little bit everything. 414 00:28:45,384 --> 00:28:47,604 Joey Hobart is their big wide receiver. 415 00:28:47,604 --> 00:28:49,554 They have, I think four guys that are really good. 416 00:28:49,794 --> 00:28:51,694 But Joey Hobart kind of leads the way. 417 00:28:51,944 --> 00:28:55,544 He's got 42 catches, 411 yards and seven touchdowns. 418 00:28:56,100 --> 00:29:01,590 Uh, he is definitely their go to guy in the red zone, but you can go and lock him down and shut him down. 419 00:29:01,590 --> 00:29:12,899 But he got three other guys on that team, uh, that are over 200 yards receiving this year and three or more receiving touchdowns, like they can put up points quick, fast and in a hurry. 420 00:29:13,349 --> 00:29:22,130 Uh, and all you need is just one, one little mistake, one lean the wrong way, get the wrong, wrong leverage at some point and they're going to burn you. 421 00:29:22,645 --> 00:29:27,195 I will say, though, their defense is not nearly as strong as their offense is. 422 00:29:27,195 --> 00:29:31,504 So we will have that ability to put up points if our offense can go out and execute. 423 00:29:32,265 --> 00:29:34,704 Yesterday, they held Arkansas State to nine points. 424 00:29:35,365 --> 00:29:36,825 Troy put up 17 on them. 425 00:29:37,245 --> 00:29:39,004 They're really only their stumbles this year. 426 00:29:39,004 --> 00:29:48,835 They were in a really good game with Arizona State and lost by three, and then they lost on the road to Sam Houston, who I think might be the team to beat Liberty in Conference USA. 427 00:29:49,285 --> 00:29:51,635 Uh, they, they lost by one on the road to Sam Houston. 428 00:29:51,635 --> 00:29:52,865 So they're a good team. 429 00:29:52,865 --> 00:29:56,565 This is a big, big test for both the offense and the defense on Saturday. 430 00:30:00,515 --> 00:30:00,805 Mike: All right. 431 00:30:01,195 --> 00:30:09,845 So we're going to have to, on our offense, we're going to have to run the ball on them and try to gain control of the clock for a second straight week. 432 00:30:11,585 --> 00:30:13,075 I mean, you talked about a shootout. 433 00:30:13,325 --> 00:30:16,435 What's the best way to avoid a shootout and it's to control the clock. 434 00:30:19,055 --> 00:30:20,034 We're going to have to do it. 435 00:30:21,265 --> 00:30:22,375 Gary: Take the air out of the ball. 436 00:30:22,395 --> 00:30:25,715 We proved that we could do it because we did it really well in the second half against Georgia State. 437 00:30:25,725 --> 00:30:28,765 And that's kind of the first time we've, I think, really tried to do that. 438 00:30:28,765 --> 00:30:29,595 Run out the clock. 439 00:30:29,985 --> 00:30:32,515 We played intelligently with the lead. 440 00:30:32,935 --> 00:30:38,205 And thank goodness we did and didn't leave Georgia State more time knowing what we know happened in the final kind of 2. 441 00:30:38,205 --> 00:30:38,964 30 of that game. 442 00:30:40,374 --> 00:30:43,074 This thing opened up as Texas State as like a 7. 443 00:30:43,075 --> 00:30:44,855 5 point favorite. 444 00:30:45,370 --> 00:30:51,390 Uh, it quickly shot up to 11 at some books, and it's kind of settled on 10 now. 445 00:30:51,950 --> 00:30:57,690 Uh, we talked about it earlier, the last time ODU was not in a one possession sunbelt game was almost two years ago. 446 00:30:58,130 --> 00:31:05,510 So that, that 10 number may be a little bit high, but I understand it if you look at the underlying metrics of Texas State's offense. 447 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,910 Mike: Yeah, Kinne was a home run hire for them. 448 00:31:11,730 --> 00:31:12,440 I'm still shocked. 449 00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:14,970 He didn't get snaked away after last year. 450 00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:18,590 He's a fantastic head coach offensively. 451 00:31:19,940 --> 00:31:22,180 Gary: Talk about just dumb luck. 452 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:29,839 Their whole quarterback situation, they get a guy in, his pass comes to light, they kick him off, and then boom, Jordan McLeod lands in your lap. 453 00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:30,529 Mike. 454 00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:33,600 No, you'll never get that lucky again. 455 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,820 But man, it works for for their offense. 456 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:37,550 They got athletes all over the place. 457 00:31:37,610 --> 00:31:38,750 They're good up front. 458 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,690 They're good in the trenches, good in skill positions. 459 00:31:41,690 --> 00:31:47,880 We're going to need a big, big performance from this offense, something like the Coastal game if we're going to be in it. 460 00:31:48,730 --> 00:31:53,640 I love the defense, but I mean, sometimes you just get beat by better plays and better players. 461 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,980 And there's going to be those instances on Saturday. 462 00:31:55,980 --> 00:31:57,320 Like they're going to give up some points. 463 00:31:59,500 --> 00:31:59,850 Mike: Yeah. 464 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,730 We have a flyover for this one, right? 465 00:32:02,570 --> 00:32:04,670 Gary: I believe so. 466 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,810 I can't remember what it is copied on so many of those emails. 467 00:32:07,810 --> 00:32:09,640 I don't know if it's I don't think it's the Chinooks. 468 00:32:10,290 --> 00:32:14,659 I know the F 18s are Thursday. 469 00:32:14,740 --> 00:32:18,440 I'm sure something will be flying over the stadium at some point and it will be loud and fun. 470 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,280 Mike: Yeah, it's gonna be nice to be back on campus. 471 00:32:22,340 --> 00:32:26,200 It's felt like six months since we've seen a game at Ballard. 472 00:32:28,005 --> 00:32:30,025 Gary: Yeah, you got to knock the dust off the rituals. 473 00:32:30,025 --> 00:32:32,025 I got to go like clean all my tailgate stuff again. 474 00:32:32,025 --> 00:32:33,985 Cause it's been sitting in my garage for a month. 475 00:32:34,625 --> 00:32:43,635 Uh, but it would, it would be great for this team having gone and won two out of three on the road to have some really good fan support on Saturday, it's homecoming. 476 00:32:44,034 --> 00:32:45,495 We have a good team coming in. 477 00:32:46,005 --> 00:32:51,975 Uh, you know, Angelo Rankin was talking about post game of, you know, keep believing in the team we're working. 478 00:32:51,975 --> 00:32:54,035 We're getting better come out and support. 479 00:32:54,285 --> 00:32:56,915 And, uh, I would love to see a good home crowd. 480 00:32:56,935 --> 00:33:01,175 It's a great opportunity for this team, because you can really get some momentum running here. 481 00:33:01,175 --> 00:33:03,294 Take two out of three tough road games. 482 00:33:03,294 --> 00:33:08,314 You get Texas State who has to travel a long way like Don't underestimate the travel component. 483 00:33:08,705 --> 00:33:14,325 And then if we're able to somehow pull off a win Saturday, you got Georgia Southern on a short week at home. 484 00:33:15,054 --> 00:33:19,565 You can very quickly find yourself of 500 ballclub in a 10 day period. 485 00:33:19,935 --> 00:33:20,465 And. 486 00:33:20,995 --> 00:33:23,465 They really could use the fan support to try to make that happen. 487 00:33:25,395 --> 00:33:26,385 Mike: Show up fans. 488 00:33:26,385 --> 00:33:29,785 We need, we need everyone there for this ball club. 489 00:33:30,315 --> 00:33:34,815 If we can give them a good home environment, they're going to react and play well. 490 00:33:35,365 --> 00:33:40,605 Uh, interestingly enough, second straight year, we've played a Texas team for homecoming. 491 00:33:41,315 --> 00:33:43,574 Hopefully the offense is a little bit better than that. 492 00:33:45,434 --> 00:33:47,724 Gary: You brought back some feelings with that statement. 493 00:33:47,864 --> 00:33:50,734 I have wiped that tropical storm shenanigans game. 494 00:33:51,454 --> 00:33:54,815 Because man, That's like that show seconds to disaster. 495 00:33:54,865 --> 00:33:59,565 We were like Lamareon James's fingertips from disaster in that game. 496 00:33:59,565 --> 00:34:02,724 Mike: Yeah, 497 00:34:02,775 --> 00:34:05,395 Gary: yeah, it's going to say college football is fun too. 498 00:34:05,395 --> 00:34:07,145 So like go to a college football game. 499 00:34:07,225 --> 00:34:09,255 Have you seen what's been going on around the country? 500 00:34:09,665 --> 00:34:19,115 Like the games that were going on yesterday, even after ours, just insane endings, crazy outcomes, you got Vanderbilt beaten Bama, then going to be in Kentucky. 501 00:34:19,115 --> 00:34:19,269 You're like. 502 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,240 Vanderbilt's got a shot to go win the SEC. 503 00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:24,180 You got the Sunbelts upside down. 504 00:34:24,190 --> 00:34:26,110 Like college football is a lot of fun. 505 00:34:26,590 --> 00:34:31,679 And aside from two drives, the home crowd hasn't seen Colton Joseph play quarterback. 506 00:34:32,140 --> 00:34:33,280 And that's something you should do. 507 00:34:33,730 --> 00:34:37,160 Watch Jahron Manning for a couple of plays, even the balls on his way. 508 00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:40,410 We got some dudes on this team that are really fun to watch. 509 00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:42,990 Uh, so I would come out, support them. 510 00:34:43,660 --> 00:34:45,950 We still got everything we want is in front of us right now. 511 00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:47,750 Mike: Yeah. 512 00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:50,860 I'm excited to see Colton play, um, for a full game. 513 00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:56,410 I have not had the opportunity to see him in person for a full game. 514 00:34:56,610 --> 00:34:57,660 So I'm excited. 515 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,300 Jahron Manning is net right now. 516 00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:05,900 He's one of the best state rated safeties in the country. 517 00:35:06,379 --> 00:35:09,320 He's top 20 at safety position on PFF. 518 00:35:09,709 --> 00:35:11,980 He's the number one safety in the Sunbelt. 519 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:18,570 We need to appreciate these guys while they're here, because there's no guarantees they'll be here next year. 520 00:35:20,580 --> 00:35:20,910 So 521 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,430 Gary: it'd be a lot of people calling him the second the season's over. 522 00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:25,740 So you are correct. 523 00:35:25,889 --> 00:35:26,950 Enjoy it while you can. 524 00:35:27,385 --> 00:35:33,765 Obviously, everything is going to be done to, uh, make sure we keep a lot of these good, talented guys in Norfolk, right at ODU. 525 00:35:35,625 --> 00:35:36,155 Never know. 526 00:35:36,195 --> 00:35:41,945 We've, we're still banged up, got a lot of injuries, got a lot of guys that are playing really hard through some tough injuries. 527 00:35:42,615 --> 00:35:50,415 And unless the Sun Belt mandates an injury report, you'll never know it, but I understand those guys are going through a lot, and they're putting in a lot of work to get themselves on the field. 528 00:35:50,895 --> 00:35:56,155 And, uh, you know, that's just something I always appreciate, especially getting to know these guys a little bit more over the past few weeks. 529 00:35:58,590 --> 00:35:58,970 Mike: Yeah. 530 00:35:59,240 --> 00:35:59,720 So, 531 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,770 Texas State. 532 00:36:05,269 --> 00:36:05,960 It's a big one. 533 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,820 I mean, they're the favorites, the heavy favorites. 534 00:36:09,219 --> 00:36:11,749 They're really talented offensively. 535 00:36:12,469 --> 00:36:16,880 We got a good defense who's put us in a position to win every game but one. 536 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,180 Um we have a chance here. 537 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,160 I think. 538 00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:23,679 I 539 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,760 Gary: mean, I definitely think we have a chance, especially the defense plays anywhere near what they did on Saturday. 540 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,360 I mean, Georgia State was able to run the ball prior to playing us. 541 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:38,200 They were able to hit some deep pass plays prior to us, and they really struggled to do that for most of the game. 542 00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:41,559 So, I mean, I, I will always have faith in this defense. 543 00:36:41,689 --> 00:36:44,440 Clearly, the coastal game just a blip against a well prepared opponent. 544 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:46,850 You're allowed to have one of those, I think, a year. 545 00:36:47,260 --> 00:36:51,235 Um, Yeah, anything can happen. 546 00:36:51,355 --> 00:36:54,715 You're talking about coming all the way over from San Marcos, Texas to here. 547 00:36:56,115 --> 00:36:57,185 Travel's funky. 548 00:36:57,315 --> 00:36:58,945 They've played a lot of games in a row. 549 00:37:00,054 --> 00:37:00,525 Who knows? 550 00:37:00,825 --> 00:37:02,014 I mean, show up and come see. 551 00:37:02,115 --> 00:37:03,055 It'll be a lot of fun to watch. 552 00:37:03,724 --> 00:37:08,704 Mike: It's gonna be nice to play a team that is not coming off a bye for the first time in a while. 553 00:37:09,924 --> 00:37:12,474 Gary: Yes, they'll be just as banged up as we are, thankfully. 554 00:37:14,504 --> 00:37:16,004 Mike: So, I'm excited for this one. 555 00:37:16,084 --> 00:37:31,990 Uh, I will If you don't have a place to tailgate, you're always welcome to come hang out with us, but I need to give credit to what they've done on Kauffman Mall, because they've built that up and made it into a real nice game day experience for fans that don't have tailgate passes. 556 00:37:33,490 --> 00:37:45,160 You got the Alumni Association tent, you can go support them, but there's other tents, there's a nice beer garden right near the fountain that is fantastic. 557 00:37:45,590 --> 00:37:49,040 There's games on TVs there, it's a great game day experience. 558 00:37:49,515 --> 00:37:53,615 For anyone who doesn't want to have to think about preparing before they go to the game. 559 00:37:54,165 --> 00:37:55,545 I'm going to show up and have a good time. 560 00:37:58,705 --> 00:38:02,554 Gary: Yeah, that, that continues to just grow and grow from when they first started it. 561 00:38:02,665 --> 00:38:04,765 Obviously, you get the Monarch walk going over. 562 00:38:05,635 --> 00:38:14,915 I would recommend if you're coming to the Thursday night game, that should almost be a must thing for you because there's going to be a lot of really cool things going on prior to that Thursday night game. 563 00:38:15,545 --> 00:38:17,835 Thanks to Harry McBrien for lining a lot of that up. 564 00:38:17,895 --> 00:38:20,175 I won't ruin the surprise for him. 565 00:38:20,185 --> 00:38:24,935 But, uh, Yeah, there's a lot of good spots to go hang out, um, and come over to the game. 566 00:38:25,105 --> 00:38:27,015 Should be a, should be a fun time on Saturday. 567 00:38:29,425 --> 00:38:41,865 Mike: Yeah, um, I will add if you are a fan of basketball, it's a good opportunity to meet Mike Jones and the basketball team or the women's basketball team, because they are tailgating on Kauffman Mall. 568 00:38:42,685 --> 00:38:49,705 So, there's a lot of good reasons to go over there and just take that in, even if it's just for the Monarch March. 569 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:52,710 I mean, that alone is a pretty cool thing. 570 00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:54,510 We get to see every game day. 571 00:38:55,730 --> 00:39:01,680 So go to Kaufman Mall and, uh, just enjoy the experience. 572 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:10,700 Gary: Before we get to predictions on the game on Saturday, I wanted to give a shout out to ODU Volleyball. 573 00:39:11,059 --> 00:39:13,320 Uh, they split their series with App State. 574 00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:15,580 They absolutely dominated App State on Saturday. 575 00:39:15,580 --> 00:39:16,600 So congrats to them. 576 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,960 Field hockey beat JMU, uh, today in overtime, three to two. 577 00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:22,820 It's weird. 578 00:39:22,820 --> 00:39:26,090 Cause JMU was not in our conference for field hockey during the Mac. 579 00:39:26,090 --> 00:39:26,880 We're in the big East. 580 00:39:26,890 --> 00:39:28,890 It's funky, but beat your rivals. 581 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,100 That's, that's what I always say. 582 00:39:30,820 --> 00:39:38,290 Uh, and then right now, women's soccer is up on Georgia state one to nothing with about 30 minutes left in the second half. 583 00:39:38,290 --> 00:39:42,310 So teeing up for a pretty solid weekend for OD sports. 584 00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:46,760 Mike: Yeah, always nice beating JMU. 585 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:53,769 Um, we'll get a notch in that, but are they still doing that rivalry trophy thing with them? 586 00:39:53,955 --> 00:39:55,555 Gary: I think so. 587 00:39:55,555 --> 00:39:57,385 I don't think I paid any attention to it. 588 00:39:57,385 --> 00:40:01,175 And I think even if we win it by shutout, I probably still won't pay much attention to it. 589 00:40:01,575 --> 00:40:08,284 Um, yeah, there, that's, there's a twitter account somewhere that a JMU fan runs that consistently updates the score. 590 00:40:08,285 --> 00:40:10,715 And that's usually, if I want to know what it is, I go to that. 591 00:40:11,675 --> 00:40:14,574 Mike: Yeah, they've, they've done really well against us the last few years. 592 00:40:14,574 --> 00:40:18,795 So anytime we get a win against them, it's worth celebrating. 593 00:40:19,005 --> 00:40:20,535 So way to go ODU field hockey. 594 00:40:22,445 --> 00:40:22,875 All right. 595 00:40:23,115 --> 00:40:24,595 So we know Aaron's prediction. 596 00:40:25,425 --> 00:40:29,265 He's got us winning with a 50 yard field goal from Ethan Sanchez. 597 00:40:30,315 --> 00:40:32,215 I'm still trying to figure it out in my head. 598 00:40:32,805 --> 00:40:36,435 I know we're going to beat the spread just because that's what we do. 599 00:40:37,455 --> 00:40:38,465 It's going to be a one score game. 600 00:40:39,740 --> 00:40:41,680 Vegas should know this by now. 601 00:40:42,660 --> 00:40:43,160 I think. 602 00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:49,180 But I haven't really made up my mind on who I'm picking yet. 603 00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:52,630 So, I'd like for you to go first if you could. 604 00:40:53,939 --> 00:40:55,660 Gary: Yeah, so I'm with you on the spread. 605 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:59,729 I'm hoping that I can somehow catch it when it jumps back to 11. 606 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:03,590 If I can cross a state line or get to the Potomac River. 607 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,030 Um, because I definitely want that. 608 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,770 That number is too high. 609 00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:10,900 Um, I'm going to maybe, maybe go with the reverse jinx here. 610 00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:13,344 I think we cover, but I don't think we're going to win this game. 611 00:41:13,745 --> 00:41:18,205 I think it's gonna be a seven point game, but Texas State is gonna make one more play on offense than we're able to. 612 00:41:18,795 --> 00:41:24,935 Uh, it's gonna be a motivating win for us or motivating loss going forward to go win on Thursday night. 613 00:41:25,444 --> 00:41:30,564 But I do think that Texas State comes in and gets the victory, although we will cover and be in it late. 614 00:41:33,305 --> 00:41:34,225 Mike: All right, that's fair. 615 00:41:34,485 --> 00:41:43,464 Um, I mean, they have senior quarterback who is other, I mean, he's getting it done for the second year in a row. 616 00:41:43,865 --> 00:41:51,415 However, we did bother him last year in Harrisonburg, and we were able to get to him. 617 00:41:53,615 --> 00:42:02,605 That's going to be the key on Saturday, controlling the clock and getting to the quarterback, which we showed we could do against Georgia State. 618 00:42:04,984 --> 00:42:05,424 So 619 00:42:07,505 --> 00:42:10,174 I'm taking ODU to win this game in a shocker. 620 00:42:11,765 --> 00:42:20,015 It's going to upend everyone's expectations of Old Dominion and Texas State, and it's going to put us in a great position moving forward. 621 00:42:22,010 --> 00:42:25,590 Gary: I am rooting for you to be correct on Saturday. 622 00:42:26,140 --> 00:42:30,190 Don't get that misconstrued just because I'm picking Texas State to win doesn't mean I want them to win. 623 00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:32,489 Yeah, you're right. 624 00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:37,590 I mean, we win this game and everyone's perception of ODU and the Sun Belt changes drastically. 625 00:42:39,769 --> 00:42:40,920 Mike: Yeah, so let's make it happen. 626 00:42:43,590 --> 00:42:45,290 Come to Afterglow on Friday. 627 00:42:45,290 --> 00:42:46,960 If you're in town, it's going to be fun. 628 00:42:47,470 --> 00:42:50,930 We've had a lot of football player, uh, parents. 629 00:42:51,455 --> 00:42:53,835 Uh, former football players show up. 630 00:42:54,325 --> 00:42:56,565 It's always a great experience. 631 00:42:56,755 --> 00:43:01,405 Um, last time we had the line that blocked for Taylor Heineke, you'll come hang out. 632 00:43:01,485 --> 00:43:09,315 So come out, meet some fellow Monarchs and drink some good beer and get ready for this game next Saturday. 633 00:43:10,584 --> 00:43:19,865 Gary: And it looks like right now, the weather is going to be beautiful and Norfolk like highest 72 73 might get a little bit chilly by the end of the game. 634 00:43:20,245 --> 00:43:22,565 Uh, but perfect, perfect football weather. 635 00:43:22,625 --> 00:43:25,165 Nothing better you could be doing on Saturday than going to an ODU game. 636 00:43:27,325 --> 00:43:27,605 Mike: Yep. 637 00:43:28,145 --> 00:43:32,895 Let's pack Ballard, pack the castle, make it a tough place to play again. 638 00:43:35,184 --> 00:43:35,634 Alright. 639 00:43:38,025 --> 00:43:39,974 Thanks for listening, go Monarchs! 640 00:43:40,655 --> 00:43:41,605 Gary: Go Monarchs!