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Monarch Nation, uh, we
are the Monarchists.

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We are recapping ECU and
previewing Virginia Tech today.

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After a 20 to 14 defeat
at SB Ballard Stadium.

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Um, I don't know where we want to start
with this, but maybe we can start with

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Friday and start with something optimistic
and happy and promote next Friday.

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Uh, what do you think guys?

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I think that's a great
place to start, Mike.

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So we had our first ever pep
rally at Afterglow on Friday.

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Uh, we had live music, a great
food truck called Moon Tide.

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The live music was by JP
Lewis, who is an ODU alum.

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Fantastic, uh, musician really
enjoyed his, uh, did a lot of country

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covers and some alternative songs.

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It was pretty cool, but
turnout was, uh, pretty good.

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Hoping we can.

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Rebuild that a little bit, keep
building on that, uh, for next week,

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but need to shout out some people
that showed up, uh, the Barlow family,

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it was great meeting them and, uh,
get to talk some football with them.

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Uh, Ben Henicle is there.

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Thanks for showing up.

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And then obviously the Dingus
family, second time they've been

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shout out this year on the show,
but they showed up in full force.

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Uh, great seeing them.

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I'm hoping this can
continue to build because.

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We don't have a congregation point
for Monarch fans on Friday nights.

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On football weekends, if you go to
a town like Blacksburg or Knoxville,

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there's somewhere where you can
go to hang out with other fans

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and no other fans will be there.

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We don't have that.

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So this is what we're
trying to do here with that.

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Uh, it was a lot of fun on Friday night.

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They've got a lot of good
beers over there at Afterglow.

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It's pretty just chill environment and
there's nothing too crazy going on.

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Uh, it was nice that we were able to
get the ODU Men's Soccer game, uh,

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up on the screen so we could watch
that and, and hang out there, but.

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Yeah, that could definitely be
built into something awesome.

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They have great outdoor space in the back.

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Um, aside from the trains going by every
little bit, it's fairly quiet and chill.

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Yeah, it really was a great time.

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I mean, it had a little trivia question,
a trivia challenge that we got a couple

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of folks up on the stage that was fun.

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And just, you know, meeting a
number of fans that were out there.

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Um, also want to give a big shout
out to Harry McBrien for coming out.

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And Jude Brenya, uh, the
not too distant future.

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We'll put out a little bit of promo stuff.

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So you guys who weren't able to come to
the event on Friday, kind of see a little

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bit of what that might look like, but
we're hoping everybody comes out Friday.

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Uh, for the one before
the Virginia tech game.

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And, uh, we're hoping to have, uh,
you know, a little surprise, surprise

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guests there if you happen to show up.

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Yeah.

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We got a confirmation this weekend
that Hudson too, and Mutz with

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admission will be there on Friday.

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Excited to see them and
should be a lot of fun.

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Uh, hopefully we can continue
to build this into something

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great for all ODU fans.

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And if you're a Hokie,
come hang, grab some beers.

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It's all, it's just, it's a
good time to talk football and

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enjoy each other's company.

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So come on out.

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I had to wear my Hudson shirt today
because I got to meet Hudson to going

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into the football stadium yesterday,
which was the highlight of the day.

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I think, in my opinion, that's
when I was the happiest at S.

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B.

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Ballard, but went downhill
pretty quickly from there.

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1 last note before we move on
to talk about yesterday was, um.

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If you come out to Afterglow,
Afterglow just won an award, what,

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uh, for one of the best beer,
was it, uh, what was that, Mike?

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So, yesterday there was a 757 Battle
of the Beers in Virginia Beach.

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Uh, all the local breweries took place,
uh, took part in it, and they won the

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People's Choice Award, which I think
is the, probably the best award to

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win, because that means everyone that
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had the best beer, instead of, like,
a handful of judges voting on it.

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It was all the people that attended it.

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So they got, they got some
good stuff going on there.

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And they got seltzers that people
were raving about, uh, adult slushies.

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Uh, I didn't, I haven't had either
of those yet, but the beer is good.

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I can tell you that.

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All right.

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So let's talk about yesterday.

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Uh, Talgate was good.

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We lucked out on the weather.

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I think, uh, pretty nice considering
how gross the morning was.

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Um, Crowd student section was phenomenal.

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That was the best student section
we've had in a very long time.

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Announced sellout even though you could
see some seats throughout the game.

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Pretty good crowd overall.

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Yeah, and a shout out
to the Alston family.

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Miles Alston's crew.

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I think they end up with like eight
or nine people that came to the game.

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They stopped by the tailgate.

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Good to see them again.

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Saw them a little bit South Carolina too.

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Um, yeah, I mean, like the
vibes pregame were really good.

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Like blue lot was packed, black
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There were a lot of people around.

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Students absolutely showed
up for this first game.

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And I understand they've claimed all
the tickets for Virginia Tech as well.

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So hopefully they come
back for this next game.

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Um, man, really just from the jump, it
looked like same team, different year

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of the defense playing really well,
keeping us in the game and the offense

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just completely inept on almost every
possession that we had yesterday.

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And that was.

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Painful on my eyeballs to watch both
of the offenses operate yesterday.

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They're both pretty bad.

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Uh, but I just, I saw the same
things that we talked about.

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We needed to address and fix over
the off season continue to be a

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problem for this team in week two.

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Yeah.

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I need to offer an apology.

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Uh, preseason.

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I was excited about this offense because
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the scrimmages, uh, against this defense.

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Uh, but we still haven't seen that offense
we saw in the scrimmages in a game yet.

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Um, I'm not sure what we can share
now because we've already had games.

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So I don't think there's
anything private we can't share.

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But Dom Dutton was a vital part
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of slants and short passes and
same thing with Paige and Vines.

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And we're just not seeing that even though
our offensive line could use that quick

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hitting offense to be more successful.

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And I don't, I don't understand it.

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I'm just, I don't understand.

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I'm right there with you, Mike.

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I mean, that's the last few weeks
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are the things that this team
needs to do to be successful.

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We've continuously harped on more of
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game, being able to get things going
quickly out in front of grant, things

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that are easy to see guys coming across.

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And for whatever reason,
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I don't know why, but something has
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We've got to on offense.

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We've got to we've got to do more.

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We've got to sustain some drives.

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We have got to capitalize on
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I mean, we'll talk about it more
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with turnovers again this week, and
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and we have to get better at that.

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So, uh, our buddy Justice over at G5
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today, and he shared his stat with
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He shared the snap counts of Dom Dutton
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Dom had 24 snaps, which is better
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still don't know why it's not more.

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And then Kelby had two and one
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of the game for the offense.

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Uh, I don't know.

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Logically I'm, I'm lost.

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Just the whole ecosystem of
the offense is out of whack.

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Like there are things we could
do to help the offensive line.

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There's things the offensive
line could do to help the routes.

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So like the whole ecosystem, it's
like dumping bleach in a fish tank.

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Like it's just killing everything.

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Cause nothing is chemically right.

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So we saw from ECU yesterday
when they rushed three, we had no

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problem handling that pass rush.

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All of these routes going downfield
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and we were able to move the ball
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But when it got to four, five and
definitely six, like there was

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just not enough time to let those
routes go and develop downfield.

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And there were no short options.

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Um, it's just frustrating to watch
that unfold, especially when East

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Carolina is very clearly showing
what they're doing on defense.

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Like in the first half, they were
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line, especially at the right guard
position, trying to go in there.

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Second half of the game, you
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down linemen to the left of the
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And the way you slow that blitz down
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and make them pay for it is to run those
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defense is vacated with their blitz.

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And I was kind of in the cat bird
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see all these things develop.

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And it's like so obvious that their
linebackers are not respecting

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any pass over the middle.

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They're giving you the middle of
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any routes to go and take it.

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Because those long
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When grants getting hit in less
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in the pocket, like he can't
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So like the route tree shortening up
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the offensive line block better and
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I'm gonna start with the offensive line,
but there are things we could do to

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make us smarter and put our guys in a
better position to win, and we are not

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putting them in that position to win.

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And it's frustrating to watch that
game after game of just not doing

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the right thing to help our team win.

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All right.

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So questions I'm gonna ask to you guys.

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We know and we've talked about
this offense and the receivers

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having to make choices on what
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Now, how much choice do they really have?

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You know, is it is it a receiver
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and doing 1 of these or is it, uh,
you know, coaching call that we're

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not calling those sorts of things?

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I mean, it's it's.

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Kind of got to be one or the other, right?

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I mean, some of our routes in our plays
are choice routes, others are, are not.

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Like, they're set to be a hitch
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be, screen, all those things.

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So there are some choices, mainly
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but for your slot guys, like,

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they, they pretty much have established
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of what happens to the other receiver.

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Like, there's not a lot of choice, but.

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You can easily hot route or have a
play call where, Hey, if you look up

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and the two linebackers are in between
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probably run to where they're supposed
to be and be sitting there in a half

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a second for grant, because that's a
one step bang right over the middle.

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And especially with someone like
Dom Dutton, who's got that crazy

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speed, you get him in space with
the ball in the middle of the field.

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That's chunk play.

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That's 20, 30 yards.

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And even though we saw it, like,
it was very obvious to see that

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that was that vacated space.

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We didn't go to it except for one time.

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It was on the second drive of the game.

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It's the third and short.

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And we were at the student
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Isaiah Page ran a quick five yard
slant, easy, quick completion.

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He took it about seven, eight
yards off the field first down.

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And I didn't see us go back to that again.

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Like everything else was deep cross.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, this is a reminder for
any cardiologists in the area.

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If you are looking for an
advertising opportunity.

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Um, hit us up or hit OD football up
another one score game, uh, two already

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this season in two games, 11 last year.

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And now we have what a six and
eight record in those games.

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Is that right?

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Yeah, I think you're,
I think you're correct.

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No, it's yes.

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Six.

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Was it 13 games?

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I think we're six and seven.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's the opportunity.

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Go find an O.

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D.

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U.

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Fan and refer him to
your local cardiologist.

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Because, yeah, these games
are a killer on the ticker.

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All right, but Aaron,
what were you gonna say?

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I was gonna, I was gonna pose
another question to you guys.

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So we talked about how important
and how this offense is

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predicated on running the ball.

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So yesterday we really
struggled to do that.

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If you take out grants runs and yardage
loss from various things, we averaged

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less than three yards a rush, 2.

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8 yards a rush.

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And that's, that's not a
custom what we're seeing.

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What did you guys take away from
the game and kind of, uh, what

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you saw there and what we need
to do to be more effective there?

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I think we need to give some
credit to ECU's front four.

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They played outstanding yesterday.

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Um, they were winning the battle in
the trenches often, but we weren't

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able to get to the outside at all.

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We were running A gap a lot and B gap a
lot, but we weren't getting to that C or

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outside, uh, the tackles at all, really.

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Um, I don't know.

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It was tough sledding for
our running backs yesterday.

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They were filling holes and making plays.

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I gotta give credit to
ECU's defense there.

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They did their job in the run game.

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Yeah, easy.

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You definitely had a great approach.

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They were also in those obviously
kind of running downs where you would

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have four guys split out really wide.

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They were fine and content
to keep six in the box.

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So then it just becomes
a numbers game, right?

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You got five offensive linemen, you
got a running back and a quarterback.

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If they're got six sitting there waiting
for you, you're not going to get much.

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Um, I am surprised we
didn't bounce it outside.

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Like that's a really good call, Mike.

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Uh, cause the one big run that East
Carolina had, or both their touchdown

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runs, actually, were inside runs
that they bounced outside off the

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tackle and took for big gains because
they had sucked the linebackers in.

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So yeah, there was just
no, no room to get outside.

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Like we were getting beat up the middle.

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We're getting beat on the outside.

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Like it's just tough.

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They did a lot of really great
stunting in East Carolina,

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especially in that second half.

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The, the.

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I think it was second to last drive.

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Grant got sacked twice in a row.

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They did an incredible
stunt on the left side that.

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Aaron Young went to go fill the gap
and blocked like he's supposed to.

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And at the last second, the
defender was no longer there.

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Uh, so yeah, definitely credit the
ECU's front four, but we got to

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be smarter in our running calls
when we see sips in the box.

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All right.

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Well, I want to talk about this defense
because again, they turned out a fantastic

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effort for us and gave us a chance to
win a game and I'm still not used to it.

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Because I'm still used to that,
the Bobby years where no D.

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U.

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was real, very real.

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And being able to watch this
defense where there's a chance for

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us to make plays throughout, um,
has been a lot of fun to watch.

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The blitzing yesterday, when done,
was just a beautiful thing to see.

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And then obviously, we're
making plays in the secondary.

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Four interceptions yesterday,
two by Jerron Manning.

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Selfish plug here, buy a
shirt, the kid can play.

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He's a baller.

303
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All the money goes back to him.

304
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Jerron is a stud, man.

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You could tell on film against
South Carolina, and it showed

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in the stat sheet this week.

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Also shout out to him for making
a really, really smart play

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at the end of the first half.

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I tweeted it out and put it out there
with like, Hey, go buy a shirt of,

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he got dinged up on that last pass
completion and he was hurt, but he just

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stood up, stood on one leg, stayed as
still as possible and made sure that

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East Carolina did whatever clown show
that was, where they had half their

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field goal unit and half their offense.

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And they snapped it to an offensive
lineman who I think spiked it,

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but it looked like a fumble.

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Um, whatever that was.

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But because Jahron was smart enough to
get up and not cause an injury timeout,

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that kept three points off the board.

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So in addition to every other
thing that he did that was awesome

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on Saturday, made a really smart
play to keep points off the board.

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And I want to go ahead, Mike.

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Uh, Justice from G5 High,
second shout out for him.

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He sent me some, uh,
defensive PFF, uh, numbers.

324
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Looking at the defensive grades
for coverage, pass coverage.

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Jahron is 89.

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4.

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That is very, very, very, very good
for a safety, uh, overall defense.

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He's an 85, eight, both are
the highest on the team.

329
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The guy is just phenomenal
and I'm happy he's here.

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We got to enjoy them all.

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We got them because with this
portal being the way it is, there's

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going to be a lot of teams offering
him big bags this off season.

333
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Yeah, I'm going to keep
him under lock and key.

334
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I think maybe we should stop
talking about it on the podcast.

335
00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,340
So no one, no one realizes it, but
yeah, he's, he's a fun one to watch.

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And he got a little more playing
time in the second half yesterday.

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Uh, Patrick Smith young, I'm guessing
went down with an injury at some

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point early in the second half.

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So he got more reps in past protection,
made a huge interception when ECU was

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To keep them from getting a touchdown
that would have put the game away.

341
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At least gave us a chance to have some
drives to go win the game at the end.

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00:18:18,365 --> 00:18:20,864
Uh, but just read that route,
jumped underneath it and made a

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00:18:20,865 --> 00:18:22,264
great interception in the end zone.

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00:18:22,635 --> 00:18:27,445
Just, we have some dudes in the
secondary this year, like Patrick Smith.

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Young is really good.

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Jahron's really good.

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Like reason's really good.

348
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We are, we have some dogs
in that, that secondary.

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I think we have great linebacking core,
like even without Jason Henderson, being

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in there, this defense when unleashed
properly and they can be aggressive.

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They are dangerous.

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Just don't put them in drop eight.

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Cause that didn't go so well yesterday.

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That's the second game in a
row where Patrick Smith Young

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has had huge impactful plays.

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And you just mentioned that
linebacker core linebacking core.

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So, uh, you know, we've
got a shout out koa.

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He came up with 18
total tackles yesterday.

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So that's I mean, that's
his all time mark so far.

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00:19:08,785 --> 00:19:10,024
He played really well there.

361
00:19:10,444 --> 00:19:15,094
Um, the ladies in our section
just kept talking about how

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how much they liked his hair.

363
00:19:16,995 --> 00:19:20,274
Um, so if that's why they want
to cheer for him, that's cool.

364
00:19:20,274 --> 00:19:21,544
We'll cheer for the tackles.

365
00:19:21,864 --> 00:19:25,144
But what a phenomenal,
phenomenal day for him.

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00:19:25,725 --> 00:19:29,485
Uh, he wasn't the postgame
presser with Aaron Young.

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00:19:29,935 --> 00:19:33,565
You can see how much that loss hurt
to those guys, but they're really

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motivated for next week's game, and they
had a really good attitude about it.

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But, uh, yeah, great, great game by
the, or good game by the defense.

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We left some stuff on the table,
but man, are they playing so hard.

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Um, there's a couple names I'd
like to add to our list of,

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like, guys we should shout out.

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Marcus Knight, he's been playing well.

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00:19:59,225 --> 00:20:02,435
Mario Easterly has been playing
very good defense for us.

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And then Jamez Drummer, who we haven't
seen much of, had a very good game

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00:20:07,304 --> 00:20:11,364
yesterday, and so did, uh, Jeremy
Mack Jr., the Colorado transfer.

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00:20:11,824 --> 00:20:14,534
Both were impactful yesterday,
and it was great to see.

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We're, we're showing off our depth each
game on the defensive side of the ball,

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and it's, it's really going to pay
dividends the longer the season goes.

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If we can figure out the offensive side.

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00:20:26,395 --> 00:20:28,735
Yeah, I'll put Will Jones
a second on there as well.

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He had an interception
and looked really good.

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00:20:30,625 --> 00:20:34,795
I mean, it, it's, it's hard to
track 'cause there are a lot of

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new guys and don't quite know
the number with the name yet.

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But it's also because we've been rotating
so many guys in on defense and there

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has not been a drop off in quality
and like that is, that's amazing.

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00:20:44,485 --> 00:20:46,075
We're not seeing that
on the offensive side.

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But on the defensive side we are like,
they've built that depth, they've got

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the dudes um, just un unleash 'em.

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00:20:53,239 --> 00:20:56,639
I think we only stopped them once on
third down when we dropped eight in

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coverage and they got like eight or
nine yards and it was like third and 15.

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00:21:00,350 --> 00:21:05,210
Uh, but when we blitzed on third down,
man, we got pressure and that caused a

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lot of those interceptions, almost all
those interceptions, you can go back

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and look and there's someone right in
his face or bring him to the ground as

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he's throwing it like that is picture
perfect defensive pressure, good

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coverage, leading to turnovers like.

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00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:22,119
Four interceptions yesterday and
we, we didn't, didn't win the game.

398
00:21:25,459 --> 00:21:30,179
Yeah, I think, uh, if I'm not
mistaken, I think four interceptions

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00:21:30,179 --> 00:21:34,529
is the most we've had since 2009,
our first season in football.

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00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:36,819
That that's probably right.

401
00:21:36,849 --> 00:21:39,260
We have not been a big
turnover team historically.

402
00:21:40,060 --> 00:21:42,189
Yeah, definitely tied for most.

403
00:21:42,189 --> 00:21:47,379
I can't remember what year it was, but
it is at the bottom of Harry's article.

404
00:21:47,579 --> 00:21:49,289
It's at the bottom of Harry's article.

405
00:21:49,299 --> 00:21:49,659
Um,

406
00:21:52,044 --> 00:21:54,935
They had a bunch of notes in there
that were pretty interesting, actually.

407
00:21:56,655 --> 00:21:59,635
Yeah, and Aaron, you're talking
about the postgame press conference.

408
00:21:59,685 --> 00:22:04,094
Uh, I watched it yesterday and
coach Ronnie made a comment about

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how it seems like the media and the
fans are pretty tired of hearing

410
00:22:07,675 --> 00:22:09,424
about the one and O mentality.

411
00:22:09,974 --> 00:22:12,384
Um, I don't know if
that's necessarily true.

412
00:22:12,534 --> 00:22:15,834
I just think we're tired of hearing
the one and O mentality and not

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00:22:15,834 --> 00:22:17,604
translating to one and O on game day.

414
00:22:17,664 --> 00:22:19,584
I think that's where the
frustration is on that.

415
00:22:19,584 --> 00:22:19,704
Yeah.

416
00:22:20,044 --> 00:22:23,655
And I'm hoping that that's not creating
a culture of, I went, want to know,

417
00:22:23,745 --> 00:22:24,975
not the team went, want to know.

418
00:22:25,415 --> 00:22:28,284
Um, but no, no one, I think
the mentality is right.

419
00:22:28,344 --> 00:22:30,425
We just needed to translate
the one on one game day.

420
00:22:31,235 --> 00:22:31,555
Yeah.

421
00:22:31,614 --> 00:22:34,764
A couple other things that came
out of that post game presser.

422
00:22:34,794 --> 00:22:35,394
Go ahead, Mike.

423
00:22:35,414 --> 00:22:35,754
I got it.

424
00:22:36,334 --> 00:22:36,664
Sorry.

425
00:22:36,664 --> 00:22:39,265
I got to correct my
stat that I just shared.

426
00:22:40,485 --> 00:22:42,675
We had three interceptions
in the first half.

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That's the most in and a half
since the second half against

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Presbyterian in October of 20, 2009.

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00:22:50,835 --> 00:22:51,235
So.

430
00:22:52,344 --> 00:22:53,284
My mistake there.

431
00:22:53,814 --> 00:22:56,185
I'm pretty sure Presbyterian was
running the triple option then.

432
00:22:56,185 --> 00:22:57,564
So that's actually even more impressive.

433
00:22:57,574 --> 00:22:58,725
We got three picks in a game.

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They probably threw it six times.

435
00:23:03,635 --> 00:23:04,014
All right.

436
00:23:04,015 --> 00:23:04,904
All right.

437
00:23:04,904 --> 00:23:05,965
So no, that's okay.

438
00:23:06,165 --> 00:23:06,734
Uh, all right.

439
00:23:06,744 --> 00:23:09,954
So a couple other things that got talked
about in the post game presser yesterday

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00:23:09,984 --> 00:23:15,694
and asked, um, and one of them we probably
should talk about the other one I'll

441
00:23:15,694 --> 00:23:17,554
mention, and I think we can put to bed.

442
00:23:18,014 --> 00:23:21,084
Uh, the first one was
Jason Henderson's health.

443
00:23:21,794 --> 00:23:24,385
So, of course, we know
Ricky doesn't talk injuries.

444
00:23:24,665 --> 00:23:30,554
Ricky said we'll continue to evaluate
based upon what we've seen in kind of.

445
00:23:30,995 --> 00:23:31,784
What makes sense?

446
00:23:32,374 --> 00:23:37,465
Um, you know, Jason still
rehabbing from that injury.

447
00:23:37,465 --> 00:23:39,375
He came back and played in the first game.

448
00:23:39,794 --> 00:23:43,954
Um, I know myself, I wouldn't be
surprised if we don't seem to the Sunbelt.

449
00:23:44,524 --> 00:23:46,195
Who knows what's what it's gonna be.

450
00:23:46,205 --> 00:23:48,454
I mean, Ricky does not
talk about that stuff.

451
00:23:49,024 --> 00:23:55,165
But, um, you know, it's a, it is
a day to day evaluation thing.

452
00:23:55,165 --> 00:23:58,754
So for all the people that are
reaching out to us, we don't know

453
00:23:59,314 --> 00:24:03,175
that's what the coaching staff is,
but I would expect that we probably

454
00:24:03,175 --> 00:24:04,364
don't see him for a couple of games.

455
00:24:04,465 --> 00:24:05,584
I don't know what y'all think.

456
00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:06,665
Yeah.

457
00:24:06,665 --> 00:24:09,294
And you also have to
play the long game too.

458
00:24:09,305 --> 00:24:11,964
Like we're, Oh, and two at this
point, we're not making the college

459
00:24:11,964 --> 00:24:14,144
football playoffs that we've
missed our opportunity for that.

460
00:24:14,204 --> 00:24:16,094
So like what, what's
next on our goal list?

461
00:24:16,094 --> 00:24:16,364
And that's.

462
00:24:16,894 --> 00:24:20,195
When the, when the Sunbelt East go
to the Sunbelt championship game,

463
00:24:20,195 --> 00:24:24,014
when the Sunbelt, so kind of what
you have to do for Virginia Tech

464
00:24:24,075 --> 00:24:27,984
and the bi week in Bowling Green is
how do you best set the team up to

465
00:24:27,984 --> 00:24:30,685
go win those eight Sunbelt games,
because those are going to be tough.

466
00:24:30,685 --> 00:24:32,534
Like Sunbelt's kind of all over the place.

467
00:24:32,534 --> 00:24:34,764
I don't know what kind of crack
everyone was smoking this weekend.

468
00:24:34,764 --> 00:24:38,405
There were some really weird scores, but,
um, that's kind of has to be the focus.

469
00:24:38,415 --> 00:24:40,524
So you've got this gift
of a two bi week season.

470
00:24:40,814 --> 00:24:43,934
You've got one coming up here after
you played two power teams and a

471
00:24:43,935 --> 00:24:45,194
really good East Carolina team.

472
00:24:45,495 --> 00:24:46,145
You're beaten up.

473
00:24:46,175 --> 00:24:47,725
You've got injuries all over the place.

474
00:24:47,735 --> 00:24:47,884
I mean.

475
00:24:48,464 --> 00:24:51,904
Skylar Grant threw on an 83
Jersey and played tight end in

476
00:24:51,904 --> 00:24:53,364
some of our power sets yesterday.

477
00:24:53,735 --> 00:24:55,364
That's about a 300 pound tight end.

478
00:24:55,714 --> 00:24:57,975
Uh, just cause we, you
know, Butler is, is hurt.

479
00:24:58,225 --> 00:25:00,714
Uh, DJ is, is obviously
hurt and still out.

480
00:25:01,064 --> 00:25:04,044
Uh, and we only really have one other
tight end on the roster to play.

481
00:25:04,124 --> 00:25:07,694
Um, so yeah, you, you gotta just
start conserving and thinking of

482
00:25:07,704 --> 00:25:08,694
what you can do in the Sunbelt.

483
00:25:09,024 --> 00:25:09,474
Uh, the.

484
00:25:10,264 --> 00:25:12,235
Biggest injury I think from
yesterday happened right at the

485
00:25:12,235 --> 00:25:13,654
end of the game with Grant Wilson.

486
00:25:13,925 --> 00:25:16,254
He could not move that
wrist or hand or something.

487
00:25:16,254 --> 00:25:17,175
It went into the ground.

488
00:25:17,175 --> 00:25:18,475
He got hit by a face mask.

489
00:25:18,514 --> 00:25:19,704
He couldn't receive the snap.

490
00:25:20,104 --> 00:25:25,094
Um, that will be interesting to watch and
seeing if he's not able to go Saturday,

491
00:25:25,254 --> 00:25:26,914
who we plug and play, a quarterback.

492
00:25:27,475 --> 00:25:28,685
You know, congratulations.

493
00:25:28,685 --> 00:25:31,085
Your first game is going to be against
Virginia tech and their defense.

494
00:25:32,054 --> 00:25:36,575
Before we talk about what we
might think might happen there.

495
00:25:36,905 --> 00:25:41,205
Um, the other thing with regards to
Jason is obviously the coaching staff

496
00:25:41,205 --> 00:25:43,084
has Jason's best interest at heart.

497
00:25:43,715 --> 00:25:45,954
Jason is the dude is
going to get on the field.

498
00:25:45,955 --> 00:25:49,974
I mean, he's going to have his home and
he's going to run on field if he can.

499
00:25:50,445 --> 00:25:54,445
So, uh, Justin Walker, that training
staff, the coaching staff, they want to

500
00:25:54,445 --> 00:25:56,634
make sure that, that he is good to go.

501
00:25:56,635 --> 00:25:57,334
And he is.

502
00:25:58,540 --> 00:26:02,380
They don't want to do anything to
jeopardize the kid's long term future

503
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,919
because he's put everything into being
a monarch and, you know, gonna make

504
00:26:06,919 --> 00:26:08,540
sure that he's good when he comes back.

505
00:26:09,114 --> 00:26:12,044
Um, before we talk about the quarterback
position, the other thing that

506
00:26:12,044 --> 00:26:14,284
was asked about was the penalties.

507
00:26:15,075 --> 00:26:19,724
Penalties were, they
hurt, they always hurt.

508
00:26:20,154 --> 00:26:24,034
But yesterday we got him at the
worst possible times and they

509
00:26:24,034 --> 00:26:25,334
were really impactful in the game.

510
00:26:25,354 --> 00:26:27,144
Let's let's talk about
that for a couple minutes.

511
00:26:30,024 --> 00:26:33,814
Um, the ones I want to talk about the
most for that punt return touchdown

512
00:26:33,814 --> 00:26:35,705
by Isaiah page to get called back.

513
00:26:36,264 --> 00:26:37,954
I went back and watch that.

514
00:26:38,485 --> 00:26:40,554
Uh, yeah, those were legitimate flags.

515
00:26:41,729 --> 00:26:44,629
But they really had no impact on the play.

516
00:26:44,629 --> 00:26:46,300
They didn't need to hold there.

517
00:26:46,669 --> 00:26:48,090
They didn't need to block in the back.

518
00:26:48,939 --> 00:26:52,439
He was going for that touchdown
without the holds and without

519
00:26:52,439 --> 00:26:53,219
that block in the back.

520
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,829
Um, but I wish we had a Sunbelt
ref crew yesterday because I'm not

521
00:26:58,829 --> 00:27:03,370
sure they call those flags at all
because they were, they had zero,

522
00:27:03,389 --> 00:27:05,449
a little impact on the play at all.

523
00:27:06,209 --> 00:27:09,129
And we know the Sunbelt
refs like to let them play.

524
00:27:09,310 --> 00:27:13,155
And if it's not egregious, They're
likely not going to call it.

525
00:27:13,865 --> 00:27:16,834
So I think we missed the
Sunbelt ref career yesterday.

526
00:27:16,834 --> 00:27:18,995
Cause I don't know.

527
00:27:19,895 --> 00:27:21,865
I think we need to, I would love it.

528
00:27:21,925 --> 00:27:27,965
If in college football went to some
proximity rules for these plays, if

529
00:27:27,965 --> 00:27:31,404
there's a hold on the other side of
the field that has zero impact on the

530
00:27:31,405 --> 00:27:34,374
guy getting busting through, who cares?

531
00:27:37,824 --> 00:27:38,854
I, I agree with you.

532
00:27:38,854 --> 00:27:43,375
Like they, they didn't, would not have
changed the outcome of the play, but.

533
00:27:44,274 --> 00:27:47,354
Some of these were so egregious and
right in front of an official that

534
00:27:47,495 --> 00:27:48,915
they really didn't have a choice.

535
00:27:48,985 --> 00:27:51,124
I don't think, especially on
the punt return, like that

536
00:27:51,124 --> 00:27:52,324
was right in front of me.

537
00:27:52,764 --> 00:27:57,604
And we actually had two holds, both
holding the gunners after Isaiah Page

538
00:27:57,604 --> 00:27:59,624
had gotten past them and down the field.

539
00:27:59,654 --> 00:28:00,814
Then we had the block in the back.

540
00:28:01,334 --> 00:28:05,235
But it was, it was clear,
like, just not smart decisions.

541
00:28:05,284 --> 00:28:07,975
Like you just let the guys go, like,
you don't have to touch them anymore.

542
00:28:08,044 --> 00:28:09,254
It plays over, go by.

543
00:28:09,695 --> 00:28:12,425
Um, a lot of the holds on the
offensive line were, were just simply

544
00:28:12,425 --> 00:28:13,495
because they were getting beat.

545
00:28:13,864 --> 00:28:16,844
They were getting beat bad and
they were no longer competitive

546
00:28:16,844 --> 00:28:18,044
in the play, in the grab.

547
00:28:18,435 --> 00:28:20,534
And it stinks because it
brought back some big plays.

548
00:28:20,564 --> 00:28:23,074
Like Grant had a really
great run on the driver.

549
00:28:23,074 --> 00:28:24,274
We had a chance to take the lead.

550
00:28:24,594 --> 00:28:25,584
It got called back.

551
00:28:25,965 --> 00:28:31,014
Um, Anytime I felt like we finally got
some momentum to go fast and we had the

552
00:28:31,024 --> 00:28:36,774
defense trapped on the field and gassed,
we went a little too fast and forgot

553
00:28:36,774 --> 00:28:40,615
things like snapping the ball and getting
set and not being in the wrong formations.

554
00:28:41,205 --> 00:28:46,445
Um, just a lot of mental mistakes on
those and then how you respond to getting

555
00:28:46,455 --> 00:28:48,495
beat, it costs the team quite a bit.

556
00:28:48,544 --> 00:28:50,725
Like it was, that was
painful on a lot of those.

557
00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:54,754
When was the last time we had
that many penalties in the game?

558
00:28:54,845 --> 00:28:58,015
It's one of our sloppiest
games we've had in years.

559
00:28:59,034 --> 00:29:00,554
I'm thinking the Bobby Wilder era.

560
00:29:02,424 --> 00:29:03,134
But I don't know.

561
00:29:03,174 --> 00:29:04,354
I haven't looked it up.

562
00:29:04,824 --> 00:29:05,854
Had to be one of those.

563
00:29:05,854 --> 00:29:09,954
And we were just giving a lot of PIs
in the secondary, but would have been

564
00:29:09,964 --> 00:29:12,174
the same, same era post Heinicke.

565
00:29:13,184 --> 00:29:13,594
Yeah.

566
00:29:14,924 --> 00:29:19,264
Um, I want to note that we really
do miss Devin Roche right now.

567
00:29:19,285 --> 00:29:23,214
It would have been nice to have his,
uh, change of game speed yesterday.

568
00:29:23,604 --> 00:29:27,854
And we talked about it already getting
out to the outside with his speed.

569
00:29:28,064 --> 00:29:28,884
He can do that.

570
00:29:28,975 --> 00:29:35,064
Um, I hope you can come back soon because
we need that change of pace guy right now.

571
00:29:36,574 --> 00:29:40,655
Roche running behind Jalen Butler
is something that I wish we would

572
00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:42,145
have been able to see on Saturday.

573
00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:44,264
It stinks that they're hurt and I
know they're trying to get back.

574
00:29:44,595 --> 00:29:46,874
They're doing everything they can to
train staff, doing everything they can.

575
00:29:46,885 --> 00:29:49,915
It's just one of those things
that you gotta, you gotta wait

576
00:29:49,915 --> 00:29:51,445
until it heals, unfortunately.

577
00:29:53,595 --> 00:29:57,555
And Mike, uh, We got a call or two.

578
00:29:57,555 --> 00:29:58,345
One's pretty good.

579
00:29:58,355 --> 00:30:01,275
Do we want to go ahead and
play it and talk about it?

580
00:30:01,425 --> 00:30:04,055
Since it refers to this game
before moving on to Virginia Tech?

581
00:30:05,795 --> 00:30:06,235
Sure.

582
00:30:06,645 --> 00:30:10,845
Uh, let's unveil fan calls
for the first time in 2024.

583
00:30:11,695 --> 00:30:12,165
All right.

584
00:30:13,295 --> 00:30:14,045
What do we got?

585
00:30:16,025 --> 00:30:16,905
Hey, fellas.

586
00:30:16,905 --> 00:30:17,605
Garrett here.

587
00:30:17,645 --> 00:30:22,105
Uh, first off, great to see everybody
out last, last night and during the day.

588
00:30:22,375 --> 00:30:23,325
Tailgate was great.

589
00:30:23,565 --> 00:30:26,035
Uh, glad you guys can make
it on over to us as well.

590
00:30:26,415 --> 00:30:31,570
Um, Into the game, uh, just I assume you
guys are going to talk about this a lot,

591
00:30:31,570 --> 00:30:37,560
but stagnant offense, uh, not capitalizing
on turnovers, uh, if this, this offense

592
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,130
can't have long sustained drives, keeping
our defense off the field, uh, we've

593
00:30:42,140 --> 00:30:45,920
got to capitalize on those turnovers
if, if we're going to do anything, um,

594
00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:51,390
it's really concerning that everything
we heard in the off season, uh, a better

595
00:30:51,390 --> 00:30:55,540
offensive line, um, look, if, if, if
this is going to be the situation with

596
00:30:55,540 --> 00:30:57,620
Grant, we got to start moving the pocket.

597
00:30:58,085 --> 00:31:00,255
If there's a protection issue,
you've got to move the pocket,

598
00:31:00,555 --> 00:31:02,255
uh, and get the ball out that way.

599
00:31:02,545 --> 00:31:05,615
Uh, also the run game, just
two yards, three yards.

600
00:31:05,715 --> 00:31:08,055
Gotta find something going better there.

601
00:31:08,105 --> 00:31:09,945
Uh, defense, not good, but great.

602
00:31:10,575 --> 00:31:11,975
Or, sorry, not great, but good.

603
00:31:12,275 --> 00:31:15,335
Um, but kept us in the game per usual.

604
00:31:15,685 --> 00:31:17,785
Again, got to capitalize on
the turnovers they're creating.

605
00:31:18,065 --> 00:31:21,585
Uh, I've never seen us though,
get slashed so bad up front.

606
00:31:21,815 --> 00:31:26,785
Uh, keeping, keeping people
just running all over us.

607
00:31:27,065 --> 00:31:29,055
Uh, tech is gonna exploit that.

608
00:31:29,055 --> 00:31:33,445
Kyron Drones, uh, might not be the best
passer in the world, but that run game

609
00:31:33,445 --> 00:31:35,865
they have is gonna exploit what we got.

610
00:31:36,275 --> 00:31:38,620
Uh, so Unfortunately on film for them.

611
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:41,200
Um, another thing I
haven't seen in a while.

612
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,890
It's just so many penalties and
too many costly penalties with

613
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,960
having gone back and look film yet.

614
00:31:46,420 --> 00:31:50,680
But I would be curious to know if that was
a true holding call on the Isaiah page.

615
00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:54,330
Um, return, um, again, too many penalties.

616
00:31:54,330 --> 00:31:56,980
I will say highlight the student
section, probably the best

617
00:31:56,980 --> 00:31:58,390
positive of the whole entire game.

618
00:31:58,390 --> 00:32:00,990
They stayed the whole
entire game after halftime.

619
00:32:00,990 --> 00:32:02,800
Seeing them still be there was great.

620
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,310
So kudos to them.

621
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,410
Uh, but there's gotta be a better
product on the field so we can

622
00:32:07,410 --> 00:32:09,030
continue to have them stay at games.

623
00:32:09,310 --> 00:32:10,990
Uh, so hopefully things
can get turned around.

624
00:32:10,990 --> 00:32:12,510
Hopefully Jason can play next week.

625
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,200
Uh, but a lot of things got to go back
to the drawing board, got to recover

626
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,700
from this, uh, and move forward.

627
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,510
Reign on.

628
00:32:20,260 --> 00:32:21,680
Hey, fellas, Garrick here.

629
00:32:23,770 --> 00:32:24,700
Reign on Garrick.

630
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:25,660
Thanks for calling.

631
00:32:25,670 --> 00:32:27,200
Um, a lot of good points.

632
00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:30,460
It was great seeing you yesterday.

633
00:32:30,610 --> 00:32:32,610
So thanks for having us at
your tailgate for a moment.

634
00:32:32,990 --> 00:32:35,900
Um, Aaron, Gary, you want to
add anything to this call?

635
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:38,930
Well, I think Pike had the
fire truck in blue light.

636
00:32:39,310 --> 00:32:41,310
So that was, that was pretty
fun to see over there.

637
00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:43,435
Um, yeah, I mean, he's
right about the offense.

638
00:32:43,435 --> 00:32:46,770
Like we, we've got to start adjusting
what we're trying to do offensively

639
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:49,500
for the personnel that we have
and the things that we can do.

640
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,290
Otherwise we're just going to continue
to ram our head against the wall.

641
00:32:52,690 --> 00:32:56,230
Uh, unfortunately there was a
hold for Isaiah Pidge's return.

642
00:32:56,330 --> 00:32:59,989
There were two of them, but, um, yeah, I
mean, he's, he's dead on with the offense.

643
00:32:59,990 --> 00:33:02,550
Like if we don't fix that,
like it's not going to matter.

644
00:33:02,550 --> 00:33:04,710
And this defense is, it will get
worn down no matter how deep they

645
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:06,030
are by like game seven and eight.

646
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,330
And that's, that's really
bad from the end of the year.

647
00:33:10,845 --> 00:33:13,895
Um, we did have another call from Brian.

648
00:33:14,015 --> 00:33:17,475
Um, we're not going to play
that, but he had a question.

649
00:33:17,475 --> 00:33:23,665
So he had a lot of weird occurrences
with ECU fans, asking them, uh, when

650
00:33:23,665 --> 00:33:26,555
we were going to be mean to them,
they were, they assumed we were going

651
00:33:26,555 --> 00:33:30,995
to be mean to them and Brian, there
was no trash talk to lead up to that.

652
00:33:31,955 --> 00:33:35,125
They are just thinking you're going to
treat them like ECU fans treat people.

653
00:33:35,885 --> 00:33:36,335
That's it.

654
00:33:37,295 --> 00:33:39,905
They see how their fellow fans
treat other visiting fans.

655
00:33:40,455 --> 00:33:43,005
And they assume that's going to happen
to them when they're on the road too.

656
00:33:43,745 --> 00:33:49,775
So, all right, we're going to take a
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657
00:33:50,395 --> 00:33:53,715
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668
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:28,030
So I think it's time to move
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669
00:34:28,030 --> 00:34:29,630
at home against Virginia tech.

670
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,130
Gary, you had your spouse is a Hokie.

671
00:34:34,770 --> 00:34:36,820
You probably know more about
them than either of us.

672
00:34:37,660 --> 00:34:41,430
So give us the breakdown of what you see
you've seen so far from this Hokie team.

673
00:34:42,425 --> 00:34:44,295
Yeah, a bit of an update there.

674
00:34:44,295 --> 00:34:47,625
Uh, the wife will not be sitting with
me for this OD of Virginia Tech game,

675
00:34:47,655 --> 00:34:50,445
because anytime we've been together
in the games of Norfolk, OD's won.

676
00:34:50,445 --> 00:34:53,425
So I think she's trying to
change up the landscape there.

677
00:34:53,535 --> 00:34:55,045
You want to come over to my section, Gary?

678
00:34:55,735 --> 00:34:56,225
Oh yeah, I'll be.

679
00:34:56,225 --> 00:34:58,455
Yeah, we'll find, we'll find a spot.

680
00:34:58,885 --> 00:34:59,205
No, yeah.

681
00:34:59,215 --> 00:35:00,035
You've been exiled.

682
00:35:00,345 --> 00:35:01,355
We'll squeeze in there.

683
00:35:01,775 --> 00:35:02,755
Um, yeah.

684
00:35:02,755 --> 00:35:04,065
So Virginia Tech, they're one and one.

685
00:35:04,065 --> 00:35:05,595
They lost their opener to Vandy.

686
00:35:05,615 --> 00:35:07,445
They beat Marshall on Saturday.

687
00:35:07,825 --> 00:35:11,025
Uh, I know everyone wants to
kind of jump on the Vandy sucks.

688
00:35:11,025 --> 00:35:11,825
How'd you lose to him?

689
00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:15,530
I wouldn't do that too
much in this situation.

690
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,880
Vanderbilt hired their offensive
coordinator from New Mexico State

691
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,130
and they ran this really funky option
and they brought with them Diego

692
00:35:22,170 --> 00:35:23,660
Pavia, who was their quarterback.

693
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,670
So Tech got hit with an offense that
really had never been on film before.

694
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:29,110
That's what put them in the hole early.

695
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,810
They battled back in the second half.

696
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:33,250
So far they've been a second
half team offensively.

697
00:35:33,460 --> 00:35:37,150
They seem to make some good adjustments
at halftime, rack up some points and go.

698
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:42,455
Um, Offensively, it's going to look
very similar to what South Carolina ran.

699
00:35:42,455 --> 00:35:47,785
Like it's a lot of power option, running
short passes, screen passes, looking

700
00:35:47,785 --> 00:35:52,545
for like leverage and opening and things
like that, uh, drones is a great athlete.

701
00:35:52,785 --> 00:35:57,835
Uh, he's yet to show a lot of, a lot of
accuracy with his passing, but he has

702
00:35:57,835 --> 00:36:01,634
shown it in bursts and he's made some
big plays for them, uh, you know, the.

703
00:36:02,295 --> 00:36:04,355
When they played Marshall, they
basically just went ground and pound.

704
00:36:04,385 --> 00:36:08,585
Like, Basiel Tootin had 22 carries
and, uh, I forgot how many yards.

705
00:36:08,585 --> 00:36:10,085
It was well over a hundred yards.

706
00:36:10,785 --> 00:36:12,725
Uh, he was 125 and he had a touchdown.

707
00:36:12,725 --> 00:36:14,935
So they really just kind
of wore Marshall down.

708
00:36:14,945 --> 00:36:17,465
They shortened the game,
limited number of possessions.

709
00:36:17,865 --> 00:36:19,725
Uh, that was kind of their,
their path to victory there.

710
00:36:19,725 --> 00:36:22,115
Marshall, I don't know what
they're doing on offense.

711
00:36:22,125 --> 00:36:25,175
So it's hard to figure out,
like, is Virginia Tech's defense

712
00:36:25,175 --> 00:36:26,285
actually just really good?

713
00:36:26,295 --> 00:36:27,275
Or did they play.

714
00:36:27,770 --> 00:36:30,530
You know, Vandy, who kind of carved him
up the triple option and then Marshall

715
00:36:30,530 --> 00:36:34,000
who's trying to do an air raid for some
reason, and that just didn't work out.

716
00:36:34,650 --> 00:36:38,250
Um, so I think it's a similar story
going in South Carolina, right?

717
00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:40,300
Like our offense is going to
struggle against their defense.

718
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,510
I think the struggle is any
defense right now, but I think

719
00:36:42,510 --> 00:36:43,940
that's your big focal point.

720
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,390
Um, but the offensive Virginia Tech runs
actually leans itself to our strengths

721
00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:50,160
defensively and like run support.

722
00:36:50,545 --> 00:36:53,375
Uh, filling gaps and like being
in, in a lot of single coverage

723
00:36:53,375 --> 00:36:55,015
situations to stop the run.

724
00:36:55,685 --> 00:36:59,795
So I, I, I feel like this is gonna be
like a low scoring game again, like just

725
00:37:00,365 --> 00:37:05,395
that knockdown drag out 17, 13 thing
that we've seen before, uh, playing

726
00:37:05,395 --> 00:37:08,025
Virginia Tech recently, especially
like the last game we had against them.

727
00:37:09,395 --> 00:37:13,455
It looks like the line opened up at 13
and a half, 14, somewhere around there.

728
00:37:13,905 --> 00:37:17,905
Um, my initial thought is with
our defense, the way they're

729
00:37:17,915 --> 00:37:22,245
playing, that seems like a big
number, um, especially at home.

730
00:37:24,340 --> 00:37:29,910
Well, I mean, we do have Hudson and
that was significant last time and

731
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:34,370
we still have the same damn elevators
and that was significant last time.

732
00:37:35,050 --> 00:37:36,680
Ollie Jennings is still playing.

733
00:37:37,370 --> 00:37:43,150
He's in a different uniform, but I
mean, we got all these one score games.

734
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,060
What is it now?

735
00:37:44,070 --> 00:37:47,560
How many like 13 in a row?

736
00:37:47,790 --> 00:37:49,210
13 in the last two years.

737
00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:52,110
The only game that wasn't
was that Liberty won.

738
00:37:53,145 --> 00:37:58,265
So until the trend changes, I mean, you
guys are, you guys are betters, right?

739
00:37:58,785 --> 00:38:03,955
So do you go against the trend or do you
wait until that thing changes to adjust?

740
00:38:03,955 --> 00:38:07,725
I don't know, but I wouldn't
be surprised if it's close.

741
00:38:08,355 --> 00:38:12,345
Well, the betting person in me is
going to wait to see if it moves

742
00:38:12,975 --> 00:38:15,375
towards Virginia Tech some more
so I can get a better number.

743
00:38:15,375 --> 00:38:22,625
Maybe if we can get like a 16, I'll
be very happy as a better, but.

744
00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:30,220
As a fan, it still seems like a big number
because we are a one score team right now.

745
00:38:30,620 --> 00:38:34,100
Our defense is playing good
enough to keep us in every game.

746
00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:36,840
And I don't see any reason
that changes this week.

747
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:38,230
Yeah.

748
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,430
Well, you see that line.

749
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,160
I mean, what, what would make
that line change significantly?

750
00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:43,430
News comes out about Grant.

751
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:48,530
Could have that, but I also
think there are a lot of people

752
00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:51,250
willing to throw money to back
Virginia Tech under two touchdowns.

753
00:38:51,310 --> 00:38:51,650
So.

754
00:38:52,195 --> 00:38:55,265
If you're a gambler that wants to
bet tech this weekend, you have

755
00:38:55,315 --> 00:38:57,955
already bet them, or you're about
to, to get that 13 and a half.

756
00:38:58,545 --> 00:39:03,335
Um, I will tell you, Vegas is
struggling with ODU and East Carolina

757
00:39:03,365 --> 00:39:05,735
and their advanced analytics to
figure out what lines should be.

758
00:39:06,075 --> 00:39:09,615
Because last week when we recorded,
ODU was a three point favorite.

759
00:39:09,985 --> 00:39:12,645
By the time the episode got released,
they were a three point dog and it

760
00:39:12,655 --> 00:39:16,085
ended up coming back to ODU being about
a one and a half point favorite kick.

761
00:39:16,505 --> 00:39:19,165
That's a massive swing in college
football in this day and age, when

762
00:39:19,165 --> 00:39:22,315
there's so much analytics, so many
people betting and paying attention

763
00:39:22,315 --> 00:39:25,925
to that stuff, um, they're like, I'm
going to be shocked that this thing

764
00:39:25,925 --> 00:39:28,135
doesn't get closer to 17 by kickoff.

765
00:39:28,465 --> 00:39:30,775
Like I know one score in our defense, but

766
00:39:32,925 --> 00:39:35,555
you look at our offense and you
say, eventually that dam's going to

767
00:39:35,565 --> 00:39:37,365
break for the defense in a big way.

768
00:39:37,605 --> 00:39:37,895
Like.

769
00:39:38,740 --> 00:39:42,290
We had to grind out to get the
one short touchdown, and we had

770
00:39:42,290 --> 00:39:45,420
the one kind of busted coverage
that Kelby got for the touchdown.

771
00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:47,090
Outside of that, the
offense is pretty putrid.

772
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,130
So, I think, do you think that
ODU is going to fix their offense?

773
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:54,010
That's, that's the question that
makes your bet on either side of that.

774
00:39:59,750 --> 00:40:00,830
We already know how to fix it.

775
00:40:01,710 --> 00:40:02,710
And they know how to fix it.

776
00:40:03,130 --> 00:40:06,230
It's just more about execution
and actually doing it now.

777
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:07,550
So.

778
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:12,680
Um, it's definitely a wait and see
position for me on the offense.

779
00:40:13,130 --> 00:40:19,690
Um, definitely frustrating because
we've seen it work and we know it can

780
00:40:19,690 --> 00:40:21,770
work and it's just not there right now.

781
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,080
Yeah.

782
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,320
But we got to fix it like now, like
now, like this is not an off season fix.

783
00:40:29,930 --> 00:40:33,310
Like you got to fix your offense to
fit the personnel you have through

784
00:40:33,340 --> 00:40:34,400
from now to the end of the season.

785
00:40:35,150 --> 00:40:37,110
And you need to get it
worked out so that that way.

786
00:40:37,735 --> 00:40:41,445
That first game at Coastal Carolina
and the next game at Georgia State,

787
00:40:41,455 --> 00:40:42,805
two winnable road games for us.

788
00:40:43,505 --> 00:40:48,725
We need those games because we talked
about it in the first show that we did.

789
00:40:48,725 --> 00:40:51,435
Like there's a pathway where there's
a big zero in front of our, in

790
00:40:51,435 --> 00:40:53,125
our win column for quite a while.

791
00:40:53,125 --> 00:40:57,325
And I mean, we don't be tech.

792
00:40:57,335 --> 00:40:58,525
We don't be Bowling Green.

793
00:40:58,975 --> 00:40:59,805
Coastal beats us.

794
00:40:59,865 --> 00:41:01,245
And then we lay a negative Georgia State.

795
00:41:01,855 --> 00:41:02,615
Boom, you're done.

796
00:41:03,045 --> 00:41:03,355
See ya.

797
00:41:05,055 --> 00:41:09,465
Did either of you guys get a chance
to watch the Marshall Tech game?

798
00:41:10,905 --> 00:41:13,415
I watched a little bit of it
on my phone, but that was it.

799
00:41:13,595 --> 00:41:14,795
Yeah, I didn't get a chance to watch it.

800
00:41:14,795 --> 00:41:19,825
I was curious to see how
Marshall did rushing the ball.

801
00:41:20,655 --> 00:41:28,115
And I mean, without watching the game,
I don't really know what these numbers,

802
00:41:28,115 --> 00:41:30,175
what the context of the numbers are.

803
00:41:30,195 --> 00:41:32,495
I mean, on paper, they averaged 5.

804
00:41:32,495 --> 00:41:33,385
7 yards per rush.

805
00:41:33,795 --> 00:41:34,445
They had A.

806
00:41:34,445 --> 00:41:34,665
J.

807
00:41:34,665 --> 00:41:35,075
Turner.

808
00:41:35,095 --> 00:41:35,565
I have.

809
00:41:35,725 --> 00:41:39,785
I have not seen the kid play, so I
don't know what kind of runner he is.

810
00:41:40,325 --> 00:41:45,205
Um, he busted one big run for
like 70 yards and that was the

811
00:41:45,205 --> 00:41:46,775
majority of their rushing offense.

812
00:41:46,785 --> 00:41:49,355
Well, his other five, I mean, five for 40.

813
00:41:49,355 --> 00:41:51,775
So that's eight yards of rush there too.

814
00:41:51,775 --> 00:41:57,375
So, I mean, he was effective every time,
just every time he carried the ball.

815
00:41:57,965 --> 00:42:01,095
Um, the other guys, you know,
were three yards, two yards.

816
00:42:02,490 --> 00:42:04,870
Just don't share that with
Marshall because they're trying

817
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:06,600
to run an air raid offense.

818
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,260
That's why they do it 36 times, despite
having that kind of success on the ground.

819
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,900
So Marshall for, you know, until
the end of this season, don't fix

820
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,660
what's clearly the problem there.

821
00:42:19,780 --> 00:42:25,530
I will add, um, the PFF showed that
yesterday's game was better pass blocking.

822
00:42:25,690 --> 00:42:28,820
Our group, we graded out better on
the pass than we did on the run.

823
00:42:31,250 --> 00:42:32,220
Better than the run.

824
00:42:32,290 --> 00:42:32,720
Okay.

825
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:33,340
Yeah.

826
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,330
So.

827
00:42:36,125 --> 00:42:37,475
That's a big change from last year.

828
00:42:37,475 --> 00:42:41,295
We were much better run blocking
unit than we were at pass blocking.

829
00:42:41,945 --> 00:42:48,675
Um, hopefully that was just an anomaly
and ECU's front four were just that good.

830
00:42:49,155 --> 00:42:51,635
Um, I've heard a lot of good things
about them, but I don't know.

831
00:42:51,775 --> 00:42:53,795
Um, only time will tell.

832
00:42:55,605 --> 00:42:59,515
Well, they've survived 10 turnovers
in two games and they've won both.

833
00:42:59,675 --> 00:43:02,765
So something that reminds
you of the defense.

834
00:43:03,215 --> 00:43:06,695
Yeah, we knew we, we talked about
that, you know, kind of reminds me of.

835
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,020
That old Danny Green post game interview.

836
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:15,610
We knew who they are, who we thought
they were, and we let them off a hook.

837
00:43:17,070 --> 00:43:21,220
I don't know if I just butchered that,
but, you know, pretty much what happened.

838
00:43:21,220 --> 00:43:24,020
You got a pretty good, two weeks in
a row, we've done the same thing.

839
00:43:24,020 --> 00:43:27,980
I mean, they, they did their
damnedest to let us win that game.

840
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:31,310
Like that offense sometimes was
just like, here you go, throw

841
00:43:31,310 --> 00:43:33,510
it downfield, doing dumb stuff.

842
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,350
But yeah, we had that.

843
00:43:36,025 --> 00:43:38,695
Fumble on the kickoff return
was it was a kick in the nuts.

844
00:43:39,255 --> 00:43:42,135
I was tough with the wind at your back
and the ball getting hung up there.

845
00:43:42,135 --> 00:43:46,735
But I mean, maybe it's
because I play baseball.

846
00:43:46,745 --> 00:43:48,775
Like I kind of, kind of saw
that was going short there.

847
00:43:49,795 --> 00:43:52,665
Well, yeah, I mean, the wind was
blowing the same way all game.

848
00:43:52,665 --> 00:43:57,155
So when it went up and it was like
the ball's running away from him, you

849
00:43:57,155 --> 00:44:00,295
know, he's trying to get it, but as
you get closer, it's just like getting

850
00:44:00,305 --> 00:44:03,555
further and further until you're
at that awkward point where you're

851
00:44:03,555 --> 00:44:06,640
trying to feel the You know, baseball
would have kind of been a short hop.

852
00:44:06,670 --> 00:44:07,860
You don't want to get short hop.

853
00:44:07,860 --> 00:44:10,770
You know, you're either going
to take it and let it develop

854
00:44:10,850 --> 00:44:12,300
or you got to get there.

855
00:44:12,350 --> 00:44:14,020
And it was kind of that weird in between.

856
00:44:14,020 --> 00:44:22,520
And obviously they put the ball on the
ground a lot and the ball just bounced

857
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:26,980
the right way and they were able to
recover their fumbles when we had, you

858
00:44:26,980 --> 00:44:30,240
know, when things went wrong for us like
that, we weren't quite so fortunate.

859
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,020
It was just one of those nights.

860
00:44:32,765 --> 00:44:35,125
One of those, one of those
fumbles was like, it was so weird.

861
00:44:35,125 --> 00:44:36,675
Cause it came from the
other side of the body.

862
00:44:36,705 --> 00:44:39,865
And like every defender is looking at
the person who was the ball carrier

863
00:44:40,045 --> 00:44:41,465
and the ball sitting right behind them.

864
00:44:41,515 --> 00:44:43,375
Cause like, you know, we'd
normally be looking there.

865
00:44:43,665 --> 00:44:43,955
Yeah.

866
00:44:44,035 --> 00:44:44,935
Couldn't get those balances.

867
00:44:45,495 --> 00:44:47,205
You're talking about the
wind and the stadium.

868
00:44:47,275 --> 00:44:47,445
All right.

869
00:44:47,465 --> 00:44:50,305
We got to talk about like the whole
stadium experience on Saturday.

870
00:44:50,315 --> 00:44:53,235
Cause I don't know what
in the world was going on.

871
00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:56,850
But when those clouds moved in and
the wind picked up, like obviously

872
00:44:56,850 --> 00:45:00,150
the field goal net got stuck on
the goalpost and that's going

873
00:45:00,150 --> 00:45:01,420
to happen with the crazy wind.

874
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,490
They were kicking the
extra point, whatever.

875
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:06,190
It was, it was funny and the student
section going nuts and they finally

876
00:45:06,190 --> 00:45:07,120
got it off there at halftime.

877
00:45:07,130 --> 00:45:12,290
It was, it was great, but we got
a DJ and we got graphics on the

878
00:45:12,290 --> 00:45:14,990
board after we convert a first down.

879
00:45:15,535 --> 00:45:18,875
Telling the crowd to get loud
and screaming and going nuts.

880
00:45:20,925 --> 00:45:24,675
I know we've only had football since
2009, but has anyone actually watched

881
00:45:24,675 --> 00:45:27,985
the football game and understand like
when we're on offense, that's not

882
00:45:27,985 --> 00:45:32,725
the time for the crowd to get loud
and for there to be this, the decibel

883
00:45:32,735 --> 00:45:36,805
meter and the DJ screaming while we're
trying to hustle after a first down

884
00:45:36,835 --> 00:45:40,945
to go run our tempo and we can't even
understand what the play call is because

885
00:45:40,965 --> 00:45:42,375
there's so much noise in the stadium.

886
00:45:42,655 --> 00:45:44,925
And then we ended up just wasting
a first down because absolutely no

887
00:45:44,925 --> 00:45:46,079
one knew what the play call was.

888
00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:50,510
We got to get a little bit smarter
and not, I mean, that, that's like

889
00:45:50,510 --> 00:45:54,610
embarrassing as a football fan to have
your home soundboard and stuff, do that.

890
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:58,470
Like you chalk up to the first game
if you want, but we got to do a little

891
00:45:58,470 --> 00:46:02,040
bit better than that and show that we
have some sense about us with football.

892
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,020
It's situational awareness.

893
00:46:04,110 --> 00:46:12,430
Mike knows exactly how I feel with
regards to some of the, uh, DJ inspired.

894
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,430
Who do you chance based
upon basketball games?

895
00:46:17,365 --> 00:46:22,245
It's almost like you need to hire a
former cheerleader who understands

896
00:46:22,245 --> 00:46:26,005
game flow and understands when
you're supposed to do things.

897
00:46:27,010 --> 00:46:30,430
If you're gonna start, let's just say
you're gonna start an ODU chant or a

898
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:34,540
defense chant, whatever it may be that
you're trying to get the crowd involved.

899
00:46:34,970 --> 00:46:39,040
It's not only do it at the right
point in the game, but you also

900
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,790
want to do it at the right time.

901
00:46:41,070 --> 00:46:46,260
So like, if the, if the play clock
hasn't even started yet, don't start the

902
00:46:46,270 --> 00:46:51,520
freaking stupid chant because the whole
crowd is too tired to continue the chant

903
00:46:51,870 --> 00:46:55,560
by the time there's 15 left on the clock
and then everybody shuts up and it's.

904
00:46:56,070 --> 00:46:56,880
It's just dumb.

905
00:46:59,570 --> 00:46:59,920
It does.

906
00:46:59,940 --> 00:47:01,110
We do have to get better at that.

907
00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:02,120
I mean,

908
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,410
the cherry on top of a shit Sunday,
Saturday, like that's, that's all it was.

909
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:13,250
Like we at least get the graphics.

910
00:47:13,250 --> 00:47:14,710
I mean, come on.

911
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:20,640
And I will say, um, so there's a
control center in the end zone building.

912
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:20,990
Right.

913
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,620
But then there's another one in
the ginger administration building.

914
00:47:25,350 --> 00:47:31,500
And, uh, I feel like if we could have
all the control centers in one place for

915
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:34,030
the game day operation and ESPN plus.

916
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,040
We'd probably be better off for it.

917
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:38,330
I don't know.

918
00:47:39,220 --> 00:47:39,500
Yeah.

919
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:41,830
Rewatching the stream.

920
00:47:41,830 --> 00:47:45,230
I understand why there were fans
complaining about the camera quality.

921
00:47:45,310 --> 00:47:47,740
Like there were, there were issues.

922
00:47:47,740 --> 00:47:50,250
And again, it's the first home game
and I'm sure they got new people doing

923
00:47:50,250 --> 00:47:54,520
a bunch of stuff and it'll be better
against tech, but like the graphic thing,

924
00:47:54,740 --> 00:47:57,910
like somebody had to approve for that
to go up on the screen when we were

925
00:47:57,910 --> 00:48:01,480
on offense and that killed the drive
because no one knew what the play was.

926
00:48:02,140 --> 00:48:02,470
It was

927
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,160
just look at, look at the field.

928
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,050
That's all I can say.

929
00:48:07,230 --> 00:48:08,270
So look and see what's going on.

930
00:48:10,670 --> 00:48:15,740
All right, um, are you
doing predictions now?

931
00:48:15,740 --> 00:48:16,979
I

932
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,230
mean, why not?

933
00:48:24,210 --> 00:48:25,790
I don't even want to
do the order this time.

934
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:31,840
So obviously the suspense of Aaron's pick.

935
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,380
We're all on waiting on bated breath
to hear what you have to say this week.

936
00:48:38,140 --> 00:48:38,750
Okay.

937
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:40,740
We should.

938
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:46,210
It's, uh I take a lot of thought and
consideration into these pics every week.

939
00:48:46,850 --> 00:48:47,370
Um,

940
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,950
I have to, you know, because I know
that I'm going to get measured by Mr.

941
00:48:53,970 --> 00:49:00,300
Asbury in his, you know, his articles
each week and what my record is,

942
00:49:00,330 --> 00:49:04,770
which has obviously been the worst
of the three of us throughout.

943
00:49:05,780 --> 00:49:06,890
I don't really give a shit.

944
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:09,370
So.

945
00:49:10,475 --> 00:49:11,895
We can do it whenever y'all are ready.

946
00:49:11,925 --> 00:49:13,195
I mean, who went first last time?

947
00:49:13,205 --> 00:49:14,495
Gary, I think it was Gary.

948
00:49:15,275 --> 00:49:16,675
Yeah, I went first last time.

949
00:49:17,375 --> 00:49:18,695
So Mike, I think it should be you.

950
00:49:18,695 --> 00:49:25,435
Um, what's the way our offense
has played the first two games.

951
00:49:25,435 --> 00:49:28,775
I do not have the confidence
to pick us against an ACC team.

952
00:49:28,945 --> 00:49:29,375
Um,

953
00:49:31,805 --> 00:49:32,855
it just, that's it.

954
00:49:32,885 --> 00:49:33,705
It is what it is.

955
00:49:33,705 --> 00:49:37,135
Um, I want them to prove me wrong.

956
00:49:38,245 --> 00:49:42,105
I want them to continue being undefeated
at home against Virginia Tech.

957
00:49:42,745 --> 00:49:43,155
I,

958
00:49:45,365 --> 00:49:47,335
that would make me the
happiest person in the world.

959
00:49:47,575 --> 00:49:52,045
Uh, I think I've picked them
each time we played them at home.

960
00:49:52,375 --> 00:49:53,515
That's the tough part here.

961
00:49:56,235 --> 00:49:59,165
But the offense is just, I don't
have the confidence right now.

962
00:49:59,275 --> 00:50:04,435
And with Grant, not, who knows
what's going to happen with Grant.

963
00:50:06,065 --> 00:50:08,895
It's going to be really tough
to just pick Old Dominion here.

964
00:50:09,055 --> 00:50:15,974
So, Um, I guess I would take
Virginia Tech to win, but I'll

965
00:50:15,975 --> 00:50:18,305
take that 14 points for ODU.

966
00:50:21,395 --> 00:50:21,925
All right.

967
00:50:22,315 --> 00:50:24,955
I'm kind of on the fence here
as well, because weird shit

968
00:50:24,965 --> 00:50:27,245
happens in this game, as we know.

969
00:50:27,745 --> 00:50:28,865
It's always been weird stuff.

970
00:50:29,495 --> 00:50:30,245
Always happens.

971
00:50:30,605 --> 00:50:33,595
It's like a voodoo on Virginia
Tech when they come down to 757.

972
00:50:34,145 --> 00:50:35,645
Um, but I don't know.

973
00:50:36,095 --> 00:50:36,925
I'm with you, Mike.

974
00:50:37,625 --> 00:50:41,935
Nothing about this offense instills
confidence in thinking that we can win.

975
00:50:42,265 --> 00:50:46,035
Like, if they were just a below
average offense, we'd be fine.

976
00:50:46,095 --> 00:50:51,875
But, I don't know, I'm thinking more
along the lines of like, 34 13 tech.

977
00:50:52,335 --> 00:50:53,855
Like, I don't, I don't
think we're going to cover.

978
00:50:54,215 --> 00:50:55,455
Um, but who knows?

979
00:50:55,555 --> 00:50:59,755
If, if Grant can't go, maybe we get
coming out game if someone else is on the

980
00:50:59,765 --> 00:51:05,135
bench, whether that's Moorhead, Joseph,
Quinn, somebody, just change things up.

981
00:51:05,145 --> 00:51:11,400
But, uh, I kind of got a, you put my brain
into this and it's almost a 3413 deck.

982
00:51:15,690 --> 00:51:17,080
I guess it's my turn now.

983
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:19,440
So you're waiting for it.

984
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,380
I have actually been thinking about
this a lot today and I get a lot of

985
00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:34,910
people that talk to me about these
picks and I know that you guys.

986
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:37,940
Shit, you can't see that.

987
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,870
You guys are expecting me to say that
Ethan Sanchez is going to kick a 50

988
00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:43,220
yard field goal to win this game.

989
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,680
If Grant plays, that's what's
going to happen, but I don't

990
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:48,900
think Grant is going to play.

991
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:51,650
I mean, the way that he was looking.

992
00:51:52,430 --> 00:51:54,650
I'm not a doctor, but I'm
just going to say that.

993
00:51:55,020 --> 00:51:59,050
If he doesn't play, we're going
to have a freshman quarterback

994
00:51:59,630 --> 00:52:04,110
who's going to score the winning
points diving into the end zone.

995
00:52:04,110 --> 00:52:08,410
That's Don't know the score, but that's
what I predict is going to happen.

996
00:52:09,790 --> 00:52:10,630
Go Mars, baby.

997
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:12,940
Three and 0 at home against Virginia Tech.

998
00:52:13,740 --> 00:52:15,620
Threw us a change up, man.

999
00:52:16,590 --> 00:52:19,560
I was actually not expecting
that to come out of your mouth.

1000
00:52:19,710 --> 00:52:20,180
Wow.

1001
00:52:22,060 --> 00:52:25,140
I do love the vision of a
freshman quarterback coming

1002
00:52:25,140 --> 00:52:29,870
out and having his breakout
performance against Virginia Tech.

1003
00:52:30,550 --> 00:52:32,060
We know Colton is a gunslinger.

1004
00:52:32,995 --> 00:52:36,845
And gunslingers do some
crazy stuff in big games.

1005
00:52:36,845 --> 00:52:44,925
Um, if that happens, that could
be a ton of fun on Saturday.

1006
00:52:46,395 --> 00:52:50,285
Just, just curious in the history
of ODU Virginia Tech, has there, has

1007
00:52:50,285 --> 00:52:54,485
there been a situation where maybe a
quarterback started the game and it was

1008
00:52:54,515 --> 00:52:57,705
early in their career and it just didn't
kind of work out the first few drives

1009
00:52:57,725 --> 00:53:01,974
and then some other relative unknown
person came in at quarterback and.

1010
00:53:02,325 --> 00:53:05,564
May or may not have led us
to victory against Gary.

1011
00:53:05,565 --> 00:53:09,595
Now, now, you know, where I was going
with this, that if it, you know,

1012
00:53:11,885 --> 00:53:13,265
stranger things have happened.

1013
00:53:13,395 --> 00:53:18,135
And as we talked with our friends at South
Carolina about it, if you haven't seen

1014
00:53:18,135 --> 00:53:22,665
it in a football game, it's likely to
happen in an old dominion football game,

1015
00:53:22,705 --> 00:53:25,595
because this is where weird shit happens.

1016
00:53:26,315 --> 00:53:27,525
Maybe that's a t shirt.

1017
00:53:29,595 --> 00:53:29,975
Yeah.

1018
00:53:31,135 --> 00:53:31,545
Yeah.

1019
00:53:31,965 --> 00:53:35,345
Pastor La Russa, pastor
La Russa, bless him.

1020
00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:40,920
Um, he's in Chesapeake as a junior pastor.

1021
00:53:40,970 --> 00:53:42,140
If, if you're interested.

1022
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:42,990
Yeah.

1023
00:53:43,020 --> 00:53:44,070
So, Hey, yeah.

1024
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:50,460
If Blake, if you happen to be watching
this or someone shares it, maybe we

1025
00:53:50,460 --> 00:53:55,570
need to get him out Friday night to the
pep rally to help us get ready for this

1026
00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:00,840
thing and share some good luck, some
good vibes, some, all the things that

1027
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,440
made that, uh, that victory so sweet.

1028
00:54:04,435 --> 00:54:05,765
I thought you were going
in a different direction.

1029
00:54:05,775 --> 00:54:07,885
Cause he does still have a
year of eligibility left.

1030
00:54:10,255 --> 00:54:13,815
Could you imagine, would that be
like a Stone Cold Steve Austin coming

1031
00:54:13,815 --> 00:54:17,995
out of the back and break the glass
music, you know, and all of a sudden,

1032
00:54:18,765 --> 00:54:22,085
I mean, weirder stuff has happened.

1033
00:54:22,445 --> 00:54:22,775
Yeah.

1034
00:54:22,845 --> 00:54:26,065
That and some six foot four receivers
would be in, be in great shape.

1035
00:54:29,335 --> 00:54:30,085
It's just funny.

1036
00:54:30,135 --> 00:54:34,445
Pastor Larussa condemned
many Hokies back in 2016.

1037
00:54:35,735 --> 00:54:36,845
Or 17, whatever it was.

1038
00:54:39,775 --> 00:54:40,565
All right, fellas.

1039
00:54:41,345 --> 00:54:44,415
Well, this is gonna be my last pitch.

1040
00:54:44,515 --> 00:54:46,095
Come out on Friday to Afterglow.

1041
00:54:46,185 --> 00:54:47,295
We're gonna have a lot of fun.

1042
00:54:48,345 --> 00:54:51,485
Let's talk OD football, drink some
beer, listen to some good music,

1043
00:54:51,965 --> 00:54:53,535
and just enjoy each other's company.

1044
00:54:55,375 --> 00:54:56,385
And hang out with Hudson.

1045
00:54:57,965 --> 00:54:58,205
Yes.

1046
00:54:58,325 --> 00:55:00,335
Where else can you do
all that in one place?

1047
00:55:00,335 --> 00:55:02,225
Come to Afterglow.

1048
00:55:03,395 --> 00:55:04,115
Go Monarchs.

1049
00:55:05,505 --> 00:55:06,345
Go Monarchs.

1050
00:55:06,705 --> 00:55:07,915
Go Monarchs.

1051
00:55:07,915 --> 00:55:08,485
Be tech.