Yeah. If you make a decision when you're feeling good, we're

sitting here now and we're going, right, I'm going to go to the gym tomorrow. We're all joking around, laughing. Gets

to 4am tomorrow morning and your alarm goes off. You've got to go through with that. You've got

to think about it smart. You can't go, oh, you know, I'm going to fly to the moon tomorrow because it's

But once you're saying shit that people either really agree with or

A lot of people have opinions about other people and how they live

their life and stuff. But at the end of the day, you know, do you really need that kind of drama? Burnouts

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of both. Bit of both. Either or. And we have a

pretty special guest that a lot of the boys that

Yeah, we've posted a thing or two. You've been around the tracks a

Yeah, well, if you're into bad decisions in cars, I guess I'm probably

right up there when it comes to making bad decisions in

That sounds like most of Bloke's Advice. Yeah, look. I

don't know if it's a bad decision. It's not the best

Yeah. It's for me, uh, I suppose, you know,

if we're talking about the American side of things, it was, uh,

a decision I made and it was the first time in my life

where I thought, right. I've made a decision and I'm going to just

see it through for good or, you know, good or bad. So, you

know, so far, uh, you know, from the outside, everything's

going well, but obviously you face your challenges every day. And,

uh, even, you know, even today, it's like, there's still so many

things, so many different variables that can go wrong. Like you

Yeah. For the boys that don't know, what's your last 12, 18 months actually

So. I think it

was about September last year, I

decided that I didn't want to build roads as a job anymore.

I decided that I wanted to drive my burnout

car or high horsepower Toyota Hilux for

a job. And the funny thing was, this doesn't really, that

didn't exist. The job for doing that didn't exist. So I had

a couple of things to do and I had to, one, figure out how that's going

to happen. I had an idea in my head that could work, but

as I said, no one was doing it. There was no trail to follow. And

the other thing was obviously I needed money. So I was pretty

fortunate. I had a pretty decent business when I was, you know, started

when I was 25 with, you know, $5,000 in my pocket. Me

and a mate, we started this business and it was going really well.

And I just was really living life on cruise control. And,

uh, sometimes I'd sit back and go, right, there's got to be more to

it. You know, like I want to wake up in the morning and have, you

know, energy and, and really enjoy what I'm doing. I thought, right,

the only thing I have in my arsenal right now is I love driving my

car or cars in general. So race car driver

was probably out, uh, you know, I'm not really built for, uh, for

speed. It's more of a comfort sort of setting. So, uh, but you

know, it's, uh, something I was

really passionate about was, was obviously driving my, my car. So, I

went into work one day and I said to my business partner, I said, listen, man, he goes, I've

got this weird idea, but the bad part is I'm going to

have to sell the business or sell my portion of the business to fund it. And

he was really supportive and he goes, man, if that's what you want to do, I believe that you've got

what it takes to do this. And, uh, so yeah,

we, we worked out a deal and I sold my business. And, uh,

once that started going through the, the hardest part of it, you know,

it came about where. I had to figure out a way where I could do

this, you know, and keep doing it. Like obviously you got some money. Um,

once you spend that money, you can stop doing all the cool stuff, but

I wanted it to be, you know, something that continued on and I could actually make a

living out of it eventually. So. I

basically went to America with a dream and a hope and an idea. And,

uh, this too, at the moment, everything's

working out pretty well. So, you know, we, we did a few shows

as monster in America and that was my idea to make it a long-term thing.

So I could go over there and spend the money I got from the business and

eventually I'd run out of money, but I needed to find the, you

know, the long-term goal. That's right. So I

went and did some shows and they were pretty blown away because they hadn't

seen what we do. Australians are really into their

high horsepower show cars and doing burnouts and demonstrations. So

I went over there and I just started doing them. I just showed up. Anywhere

there was a comp, I'd show up and do my thing and then I'd talk to people, you'd meet people.

Eventually I got onto the right guy and I had some help, you know,

from people that had been in the industry that

have, you know, sort of pointed me in the right direction. And eventually

we got onto the guys and they're like, hey, seeing what you do, you know, we've

had some meetings and we really want you to come here and, you

know, have a go on the big stage. And that big stage

was the Supercross in Salt Lake City. And

it was like 50,000 or 70,000 people, somewhere in between that,

like there was monster trailers and, you know, it's a Supercross final, right?

There was grand champions being, you know, awarded. So that

was my time to shine. And, uh, as far as I know, it went

really well because they invited me back to do a lot more. So that

for me was, you know, the first step into going, right, I can actually

How, so competing at the Supercross final at Salt Lake, you

also did SEMA, which is like, that's a pretty

big deal. How do you compare the two for like

atmosphere? And obviously SEMA is like a longer event. So you've

Yeah. So SEMA is a car show where Normally

the craziest, wildest, newest stuff comes out. And

SEMA was like the first event off the plane in the last year.

And I didn't know what to expect. I've seen videos, but you can never, you

know, sort of judge an event or a vibe off a video. And

SEMA was wild. SEMA was one of the best experiences I've

had in America because it was so loose but professional at

the same time. They had a thing called SEMA Fest where they

shut down Circus Circus Caravan Park. And

this place is huge. Like, imagine an AFL field, times

it by four, and then asphalt the whole thing. It was just absolutely

massive. And they had stages, they had Nitro Circus, and then they had

the Hoonigan set up, which they had planes hanging off cranes, and

they had massive big semi-trailers with shipping containers. Bobcat's

doing wheel stands and all sorts of stuff. And it was our job to go out there and

perform for the crowd. Now, this wasn't a paid gig. People

will literally go their whole life to have the chance to be invited. And

I didn't really understand how lucrative this was until I

got there. And you're looking at these other guys, and you're talking to them, and

they go, oh, hey, man. And they go, oh, do you follow me on Instagram? I said, no, sorry, man. You know,

like, no offense. I'm just not from around here. And

you'd look up their account. They're like 2 million followers. And just, they're all

really famous and pretty good at what they do. But we're,

as an Aussie coming with the car I've got, it's like, we're on a different level.

You know what I mean? Like, they're getting blown away by what we're doing. And

they used me to shut down a lot of the shows. I'd be the grand final

of everything they were doing on these live shows in front of however

many people. And I opened the show for Travis Pastrana.

I opened the show for Hoonicorn, which is one of Ken

Block's cars. It was just a really, really crazy

Do you find being in America that uniqueness, being

an Aussie, and obviously the car you got, sort of is like,

Yeah, it's being an Aussie in America is pretty good

to start with. You know what I mean? It's like we're

that far away that it's almost like it's a

real rare thing to run into an Aussie. And I know there's plenty of

Aussies over there, but that's how they treat you. Like everyone goes out of their way, in

my experience, everyone goes out of their way to accommodate you

and make sure you're you know you're comfortable you need any help like they'll

and it's really refreshing because uh you

know you go over there like i don't know anyone but i've had issues where i've broken

something and literally everyone will bend over backwards to

make sure they can help you you know what i mean go out of their way massively which

is which is awesome that's what you need you know you're a guy in a

foreign country that's 17 or

18 hours away on a plane and you don't know anyone. So

it's really good to have that sort of, you know, available

Yeah. You breezed over it a bit at the start, but you're

like, yeah, I made the decision. I wanted to do this. I had to

talk to the business partner, sell the business. There's blokes out there

that sit in the same job they don't like for three years

just to change job. Like you have a family, you

have like a lot of stuff that must have been kind of

a lot of weighing up how to actually execute

I guess I'd been thinking about it for a while and

you know I just as life went on I really liked to

be challenged and not that work wasn't a

challenge everyone has their challenges but I thought I

was on really on autopilot you know what I mean and I just knew that

I probably wasn't I believe everyone's got something

you're good at and something you want to do. And it's like a lot of people don't get the opportunity

or they don't veer into that lane to even give it a

chance. And I just thought, right, if this is something I

think I'm destined to do, or this is what I want to do, this is what makes me happy. And

obviously, there's 1,000 things that tell you not to do it. If you've got

a family, and my partner, she's got a career. that,

you know, it's important to her and all that stuff weighs into, you

know, when you're making these decisions. But at the end of the day, I thought, right,

I can take this chance and worst case scenario, it

fails. I can come back and I can hold my head high and

go, you know what, I gave it a shot. And once I was comfortable with,

you know, putting it all in line and worst case scenario, it doesn't work.

Love that. That's pretty good. I think that the

fact that you, you just mentioned then that you, you come

to terms with the worst thing that can happen is fail. That

like, that's pretty much everything. Everything that anyone wants to ever

give it, give it a go at. Failure is it. Like you can always

When I was going through it, I'd sort of didn't realize it was that

big of a thing and I wasn't really influencing as much

as what I was. And I had multiple people ring me after the first

trip like, there's guys now doing the same thing I did. They're selling up

their staff, they're moving to America. And it's like, I

made a difference that much difference in someone else's life that they're going to try and

do what I did. And when I'm looking at them going, Oh, sold my cars, I've

sold everything. That's not both down. I've sold. So I got

enough money to go to America and try and live the dream. It's like, I look at

that and go, that is huge. You know, cuddles, cuddles,

cuddles. He rang me. He goes, dude, you inspired me. There's guys

in America that had really good jobs, really high media presence. And

they've like, man, what you've done, I'm going to give it a crack. And I

won't mention names for obvious reasons, but it's like to

have that sort of impact on someone else's life is just as rewarding

as doing it for yourself. You know, like it feels good to know that

whatever you're done, you've done a good enough job where people think, you

know, the sky isn't the limit, right? It's, it's, there's, you can

Yeah, that's, we thought it was so inspirational even before you

got there and like had the achievements and actually proved

it. Like when you were putting that, the high locks on

the plane, like that's when we, I think wrote the first article because

And that's the inspiration. Usually

the production that you did just for that loading video, that

That was sick. Chips on the table, let's go.

And that's the thing, we kept it a bit of a secret. Well not a secret,

I didn't go out and tell everyone too much what I was doing.

for the fact that, hey, when we do it, it's just here. There's no way to change it.

And there was issues and problems and things surrounding

the whole thing, you know what I mean? And it come about very quickly. And there was

obviously people that were supporting me, and there's people that weren't supporting me. And

it was, it just come around that quickly that I

didn't even have time to like back out or change my mind

or, and that's how I wanted it. You know, I'm a big one for believing that if

you make a decision when you're feeling good, like we're sitting here now, we're going

to go to the gym tomorrow and we're all joking around, laughing, gets

to 4am tomorrow morning, your alarm goes off. You got to

go through with that. That's, that's how I like to live my life. And if I've, and

you know, in a, you got to think about it, you know, smart, you

can't go, Oh, you know, I'm going to fly to the moon tomorrow. Cause it's not going to happen. But if

you put enough effort into, you know, really making your decisions and

For sure, and if you make that promise to yourself and then you

don't do it, you've lied to yourself. So you kind of,

I think internally you start breaking down this trust you have in your own ability

Yeah. I have a question. So you obviously

came from, it was concreting, building roads, that sort of situation.

Yeah. And then you've always had stuff to do with cars, but not

More like lately I have. Yeah. Like you, you were a black guy growing up, weren't you?

But you've thrown yourself into this world where social media is super important

and you're doing really well on the whole, I

guess, media front. You're marketing it so well and I think it plays into

how well you've been blown off. Is that something you expected to

Social media, I'm a guy where... for

years I'd like you know what I wouldn't hate it if I deleted my Facebook

and just did my own thing for a while but I just got

this car so I can't you know what I mean because it all plays and plays

into it so these days it's like right I have sponsors I have obligations

they're going to want to see videos like the jet car build for example That

was a four week video, a four week YouTube series. And

that was the start of my YouTube journey. That was the first thing I was doing. And

like, there wasn't massive views. I think we probably got around 10,000 views an

episode. which for the amount of work we put into that,

isn't great. You know, like, but you can't expect to blow

up on a platform like YouTube overnight, unless you're doing something

like, I don't know, like that chick spitting on the, you know.

So, you know, she,

if she had a YouTube channel, I was spitting on something, she'd probably blow

up. But, uh, It was...it's a

necessary evil. And I don't mind social media. A lot

of it gets taken out of context. Some people don't agree

with you and it causes negativity and, you know, if you let that kind of thing creep

into your life it's very hard to, you know, to enjoy it.

And I... I'm at

a point now where I'd love to sit down and scroll through reels on

the couch at night, but at the same time I've got that much stuff to

do. I've got videos to edit, I've got merchandise stuff

to sort out. I've got just a thousand things better than

what I'm doing sitting on the couch making reels, but it's

So you said you've got a thousand things. that had got going on and

all this sort of stuff. One of those things is your

family man too. Yeah. So your, your first trip

Yeah. Well, I was, uh, obviously the unknown about going to

America, you just don't know. You know, I'm buying an RV. So

I went there and bought an RV and, uh, it was a massive shit

show. I'm going to lie. It was, they didn't want to sell it to me. I

thought I was scamming them. They didn't want to accept the way I was paying for it. They thought

I was some international scammer. In the end, we got sorted out and shout

out to cut from power cruise. He drove around LA getting cash out of the bank for

me so I could get this thing. This is two days before SEMA. So

I really had to get my feet

in the ground before I wanted to take my little family over there. So

the first time was more, hey, let's feel it out. Let's get our bearings. Let's

make sure this is safe. Let's make sure my RV's safe. I

don't want to put my family at risk of any situation I can't control. And

because I'm from a different country, I don't know. I don't know what's safe,

what's not safe. But that was the idea behind the first trip was

to really make sure I knew what I was doing and where I

was and stuff. You know, forward to this trip, I took

the family out for five weeks. We did Disneyland, Universal

Studios. We stayed at the caravan, I think they call it RV

Park, at Disney World or Disneyland, one

of the two, whatever's in Florida. And yeah, it was awesome. It

was awesome family time. I knew people we could stop through. I knew the

good areas, I knew the bad areas. So it really worked out well.

But if you did that on your first trip, you'd be a bit, you

know... Was that your first time in America? No, I'd been,

I'd been multiple times before for like Vegas trips and, you know,

other boys trips, but I'd never really cared to, you know, sort

of look around too much other side than the Vegas or, you

Yeah. It's, it's unnervingly different in a way, just

like the way little things kind of operate. You can get lost

kind of easy. It's different to like the UK. I feel like you slot in

there and it's exactly the same. Yeah. America, everything's just tweaked

Yeah, and there's some there's some Sketchy areas. There's

no doubt about it. Like I've been in some spots where I'm like

I shouldn't be here You know, but there's some areas where you feel right at

home. So it's just the way America set up You

know what? I mean? There's a good the bad and Australia's got good and bad spots as well. You

know Logan From

here, you know, it's like You're a bit more comfortable even

being in the middle alone in the middle of night Yeah, you can only talk you out of something but

you know America's a lot of obviously there's a lot of people with guns and

that's what freaks me out like You know, it's you

can you can get your way through a fistfight if you had to for your life But

when someone's shooting at you, good luck. Yeah, you can't punch bullets

I was doing a shoot in downtown LA and I was with this

You were shooting in downtown LA? I

I was making a film. It was a skate thing. And

there was this homeless guy, as they do here, just carrying

on yelling, screaming at us, all this sort of stuff. And here

just ignore him. Like, I'm like, it's fine. Like, we'll just finish

what we're doing. And the guy I was shooting with was like, bro, we

got to go. I'm like, why? He's just crazy. He's like, yeah, but he could have

Let's leave now. But you don't even think about that because we're

I bought a BB gun that made me feel a little bit safer. It

was a Glock. It looks identical to a normal gun, but you'd

never want to have to pull it out or anything. Does that make it more dangerous though?

It depends how you look at it. If someone, you know, comes up to you with the lights and you can just go,

just shoo off and do the old movement, they might take it or they might go,

Hey, we're having a gunfight now. So it's catch 22, but I

would never do that. You know, if you had to use it, you'd be in trouble. But

it's like, I just bought it so I can go to camps like RV parks and

I get bored and put a few cans up on the wall and shoot some balls at them. So,

but it's, it's definitely a, definitely a crazy, crazy

place to live when you, yeah. When you see how many guns actually have

Um, one, so I heard a little story yesterday. And

so I was speaking to mr. Crisscross. Yeah,

and He said that it was a couple of years ago when

the Hilux was still in the getting built. Mm-hmm that he

spoke to you and You had

said that you want to drive cars and tour America. This

was this was before the Hilux was even built. So this is what like End

Like you've so you did this last year. Yeah. So

you've essentially manifested everything that like

you're doing now. And you've like you've verbally said this to boys.

Yeah, years ago, I'm a massive manifesto. Yeah, like huge. So

it's I believe it's a real thing. And, you know, it's even

outside of the cars, you can manifest. And it's not just

about manifesting. It's about the well, it is, but it's the positive energy you put

put behind something, you know, so and that's true. I did tell

Christian that I remember and he's mentioned to me a few times. And

that was my dream, you know, and a lot of people I

don't really classify myself as a burnout guy. Like,

you know, sure it was cool to go to burnout events and, and

win trophies and stuff. But for my, my ideal, you

know, situation is driving the car at a show, putting on shows at

big events, you know, like my next goal now is to drive at,

you know, the NASCAR or not driving a NASCAR, driving some

sort of a vehicle as a show at the NASCAR and, you know, things like

that. That's, that's my ideal job. So, Looks

like it's on the cards, you know, so it looks pretty good, but

at the same time, you know, manifesting that happening,

it's, if you don't have a dream, you don't have a goal, you know, so it's, you

always think about something and then you go, right, is it possible? Then for the next month,

you'll be thinking about how you make it possible. You know, there's not a day, there's

not a minute in the day where I'm not thinking about what I'm doing next. It's, I

used to think it was a curse. Like I was just the massive, uh, sidequester, you

know what I mean? Like I'd have a, uh, something in front of me, like

a work thing. And so I got to get done, Kyle, you got to do this. And

I was like, I'm just thinking about everything else about that. But you

know, the three other things I'm thinking about is something I'd want to do. And now

my job is what I want to do. It helps a bit, but at the same time

I'm always looking, changing the goalposts, going further and further and further.

So my head's a busy place majority of the time. And

I'm working on that. That's one thing I've got to work out is try and get

back to the little bit, you know, straight and narrow

building some structure around chaos. Yeah. If

you're essentially you're living the dream, like, yeah,

Do you, do you feel that though? As

you're doing it right. You set out to be like, I want to do cars and

drive as my job. And obviously there's a whole bunch of shit that

comes with that, but you are doing it. Even

if it's problematic day after day, you're kind of doing what you

It does. Like if I just stopped and if I was describing myself

to you as not me, as a different person, I'd go, geez, that's great.

You know, but I don't have that vision of myself. I have like, you

don't have time to stop and smell the roses. Cause there's, there's 10 more

fields, you know, like it's, and that's, I

like that because I've always got something going,

you know, I feel like if I stopped and relaxed. I

might, you know, lose grip of the goal. I don't know.

I just, I just, I can't do it. I just, it's great. And

I'm appreciative for all the opportunities and everything that's happened and you know, what's gone my

way, but. Same time I'm pushing more and it's

not a great thing or anything. It's like, okay, well, I've got to this step. Where's

the next step? And you really do shoot for the stars and you know, you might land

on the moon as I say, but it's, it's, you always gotta keep

going. And the biggest thing, the reason I think about it like that is

because what I do for a job, no one else does it. If I was a V8 supercar

driver and I got a full-time drive at the V8 supercars, that's

cool. You're there. You know what I mean? You're there. Everyone knows that

the other 34 drivers, they're all there.

That's the pinnacle. Go to Bathurst, do this, do that. That is,

you know, set in stone. For me, there's no one does

this. There's no textbook. There's no one to follow or

copy or I'm like thinking, okay, well I got to do this.

And then what if I did that? And what if I did that? And what if I did that? And

that was the idea behind YouTube. Like I really make YouTube

videos and it's not something YouTube is not something I like a lot of doing. I

don't mind it. It's cool. Cause we get to build cool cars, but. It's

like just something, another dynamic or something I can do on the side

and YouTube for now, the revenue that it makes, it costs a

lot more than what it makes. And I understand you got to build it up,

but it's like, it's just, yeah, it's

hard to explain, but it's like just another thing that when mine goes, right,

Yeah. I

don't know how many people will subscribe to it. Some of the boys actually want to do some of that when

we're in America, this trip. So obviously we bring a lot of the guys over. And

they wanted to show behind the scenes sort of only fans. And I said, that was a good idea.

You know, like I didn't really have the energy to do it, but I think, uh,

you know, someone might enjoy that kind of content. So, and trust me,

there is a lot of shit that doesn't see the light of day that you probably wouldn't, but

Yeah, yeah, maybe once a group of Aussies are kept together

in a, you know, in a group in America, things start to go south pretty

quickly. So we've had some, we've had some, yeah,

we've had some moments, but you know, it is what it is. It's just, and

you get to a level too, where professionalism starts to come into it.

Now I post things now and I go, What's

my sponsor going to think of this? Or what's my new sponsor going to think

of this? I had some help from a tool brand. When

I was making the jet car videos, I

was just taking the piss with Robi. Just taking the absolute piss.

Using Robi tools and saying they're better than Milwaukee or

whatever. And having a joke with the guys that were working

with me. And then I get a message. People are like, you shouldn't be doing

that. You know what I mean? So you've got to really think about your actions when you get to a

certain step in, you know, in what you're doing and you're like, right, I

Is that what that was? Well, Zito is obviously the top tier. Yeah.

Um, it's just, yeah, it's just funny how you, as you go

on, you need to sort of be lesser one of the boys on

camera. You can be the boys off camera cause a hundred percent we are, but it's like,

You know, you can't, your views and people start to really think, like care

about what you say. You know what I mean? So it gets to a point where, you know,

two years ago I could have gone on Instagram and said this, this, and this, and

it could have been my personal view. People wouldn't have cared. Now

I go out there and say this, this, and this, and all of a sudden there's 50 people in the comment section disagreeing

with me. And you know, it's just, you gotta be careful a little bit, but you

I'm gonna push back a little because I think authenticity

is what separates the people that go to like the next level. And

once you're saying shit that people either really agree with

or really disagree with, that's where you get like those core fans because

you suddenly stand for something. I'm not saying just like shit

on everyone and it's okay. But if you have some genuine beliefs

that you can comfortably put it out there, or it's

clear that it's a joke because you're a bit of a funny bloke. I

don't think you should, what's the word,

suppress yourself too much. Like you be you and people will like you for it.

It's just, it's like the views. I've been on podcasts

before and I've said things that I think are right, you know, and some

people take that out of context, you know, and then some people get hurt and

it gets to a point where you're like, you know what, it's nothing really to do with

me. I'll choose like, and I'm the same, like if I

believe something in it, there's nothing that'll stop me from saying it. But it's like,

a lot of people have opinions about other people and how they live

their life and stuff. And I've just learned to, all

good. You know, that's your, that's your life, your dream. I'm not going to really comment on

it because it affects some people more than others. And you

know, you can lose friends and gains friends and fans and

whatever by doing it. But at the end of the day, you know, do you really need that kind of drama? So

I like to be positive, especially when it comes to like the

way other people are doing things. So if someone's doing, you know, one of

these other guys is living their life out, whatever, however they want to do it. I

wouldn't be the person that would be negative about anything because you know, I

was there and some people are affected more

than others. You know what I mean? And it's just, I just like

to be a little bit more careful these days with the banter I have because it

Do you reckon that like a lot of that's come with obviously your

networking since you've been going to the US, you've started hanging with some,

They do. And, uh, and which you have to, as I said,

that's, that's what I'm getting at. You have to be at a certain level because

you're not only representing yourself, you're representing your brand, you're representing,

Like you're, you're trailblazing what. Aussies are

wanting to do. Yeah. So what you do, and I mean, it sort of

Yeah. But it's just the whole car. Yeah. Like I'm not going

to go to a burnout show or something and have 20 beers, you

know? Well, if you do have 20 beers, don't tell anyone you've had 20 beers. You're just not

going to record it. I'm not really much of a drinker, so that's not a problem for

me. But you know, some of the other guys may or may not want to have 20 beers. And

it's just about how you portray your professionalism. So it's

interesting. That's one of the things I've learned, I've had to learn quickly is

Yeah, I mean, we run blokes advice. You're at

the forefront of upsetting people. Oh, yes and no. Like there's

some stuff, like you said, is this funny or is this just

But if there's something that we really believe in, you know, this is what we

stand for. But by the same token, understand that this might

limit some opportunities and we don't wanna like intentionally go

But, yeah. Some people deserve it. Some people deserve to get shit on. Yeah, some

people deserve it. Like, you know, I've seen other influencers very

close to where we are now, to be honest. I probably don't have to mention names. And, you

know, they get famous for a certain reason. It was the funniest shit I've ever seen. You

know what I mean? And you see their new stuff, you're like, not

cool. You know what I mean? So it's, uh, I'm not really in

that game cause I'm not really, I don't classify myself as an influencer. I'm

just a guy driving a car in a foreign country. Influencing people. Influencing

people to an extent. Yeah. But it's not like I wouldn't be

Yeah. Well, just. I think that comes down to like relatability though.

Like you are, like you're one of the boys. You're relatable.

You're a normal bloke. Yeah. You're just doing some cool

Yeah. Just trying to do something that's cool. And, uh, and I think that's,

you can't lose grip with that either. You know, like, uh,

I'll catch up with my mates when we're back here and we're a group of guys we made since high

school. And you know, it's good to get back and just talk better. And they

don't care. They don't care what I've done. You know, some of them are really successful. Some

of them aren't so successful, but at the end of the day, you're all human.

You know what I mean? And one thing I noticed in America with

that is everyone was like, oh, wait till you meet such

and such. You know me, he's a bit of a dick. He doesn't do that. I didn't get

that side from a lot of these big YouTubers. You know, like

everyone was really, really accommodating, but I could

see why Some people get that opinion because you

go to an event, like I was at an event with Weston. Before I

left an Atlantic truck, I think it was Atlantic city truck meet. It

was like 50,000 people there. He couldn't walk three steps

without getting stopped for a photo. So imagine you're just trying to get lunch. You're

trying to get a, you know, a hot dog and the

walks 50 meters from the car park and you've had 18 photos in

that and you're starving. So, you know, of course people get a little

bit short or, you know, take things the wrong way, but it's

I think that's the big thing that like a lot of people forget as well as where everyone

puts all these big stars or influencers or

celebrities up on this pedestal. They're still

normal people. Like it's just that they're

They are and you know what, uh, and it's, it's sort of a job for

them too. Like I've spent some time with these guys off the

camera and they're just normal. I said the normal people, but when

you're in the spotlight, people are just looking for the

smallest chink in your armor. You know what I mean? Just their five seconds to.

It's like, oh, this guy kicked a cat by accident. You know, like it's just, it

sort of sucks, but at the end of the day, it's what comes with it. And as I said, I never wanted to,

I don't care about people stopping me for photos. Like that wasn't why I'm doing it.

I'm doing it just because I wanted to do something cool, but it comes with it.

And it's getting back to the thing where your actions have consequences. And

that's one thing I've learned lately. It's just like, you

just got to second think some things sometimes, you know? So it's

With you wanting to do cool stuff. Is, is

any of that driven by the fact that you've got kids? Like

Yeah. I, um, obviously being a father, you know, I've

got two girls, two and four years old and being a father, you

always want to provide a good, uh, you know, life

for your kids. And for me, it was like, I had,

I had a great business. I had a great job. I was very stable. And

doing what I did, I had the chance of

this not going well and taking away that scalability from my kid's future.

So that was, as I said, a really hard decision. But

in the same token, it's like, right, I can take these kids around

and take them to the coolest events and this and that and show

them things that I couldn't show them unless I was in this kind of, you

know, job or lifestyle. So hopefully, you

know, we go to America and I get to take them, you know, we might

go to the monster trucks and because I know the guy that does the monster trucks, hey, you want to climb up

in here and sit in here and watch dad do this or watch dad's friend

do this. It's you have good and bad, but hopefully,

yeah, hopefully I can still show them a, you know, a good time and

Yeah. I think that's sick. And I think it's sort of just, just from outside

looking in as well, like one key thing that you've shown them is that

if. If they get to an age where they're on the fence

about, Oh, do I just keep a stable job or do I go and chase my dreams? Like

you've just laid the groundwork for fuck my dad. He

didn't, he didn't just stay still. He, yeah, he chased his

dream. So you're like, you're setting them up for giving them

Yeah. And like my parents, they were pretty straightforward, you know,

sort of people, you know, that we weren't rich. We didn't have a lot of

money when we're kids. I remember when like. I was like, Oh dad, such

and such got a new push bike. And he's like, Oh, well, it's only eight months till Christmas. And

that was the deal, right? That you just known. And you know, some, we could

have takeaway once a fortnight, cause you know, it's expensive. And

though they, mom had a job, dad had a job. They were very straightforward sort

of jobs, you know, just in the box. And, uh, one

thing I like to think about myself as I'm, I'm happy. I could have

the mindset and the ability to try and take it out of the

Yeah, I think you've done well. What

Uh, what I can talk about? Well, um, we, I

go back to America in about four weeks. We've got the

second power cruise for the year. We've got some burnout

events, which we, no one's released any information on that, but there's a lot of, there's

a hell of a lot of burnout stuff going on in America. Like it is. And I

was joking with Gup the other day when I sat back and I said, remember

when we got to America, the level of burnout competitions here

and the level of cars here was pretty average. And

in six short months, dude, there is that many cool cars

getting built. There's internet celebrities reaching out.

There's country music singers reaching out. There's burnouts

is getting to a point in America where it's the real deal. And

I think burnouts will always belong in Australia. There's no if, buts or maybes about

that. But the show side and the fun side and

the sheer amount of people that show up to these events, it just makes it all so cool.

So give it another 12 months. And I believe that doing

burnouts in America as a job won't be that far out

of people's reach for, for the average Joe that wants to go

So yeah. For those guys that you just said, like,

it's not out of reach. there might be a few young guys. Do

you recommend like going down Paisley or going to pink and bar or?

Yeah, they did. And, and, you know, QPS is block your

ears. I started there, you know, and, and I was young and I didn't understand consequences.

Would I do it now? No. Um, I would rather, you know,

show a good example of the right way to do things. And, and there's reasons,

you know, people can get hurt. Like it's a, but Hey, you

know, if you find, And I still think it's fine if

you find a teardrop at 3am in an industrial state. And,

uh, you know, if you want to have, I'm not endorsing it by any means, but you know, if

you're going to find a place in a time to do it, just be smart

about it. You know what I mean? Everyone's got a buddy that has a car park or,

you know, a back lot or something, you know, find the right area to do

it. And, you know, it just, uh, sort of let

have it. And that's one thing Australia, the Australian government doesn't really do

as Australians as people, there's a lot of rev heads. And

realistically, they don't really provide

a really solid place to do this kind of stuff. Like, sure, you've got

racetracks, and they've got rules, and they've got minimum standards. And

you can go to an event, and they can look at your car and go, mate. Not

in here today. It's all you can afford. So I

think it'd be cool to do some work with the

Queensland Government to maybe have some sort of mentor

program coming through for people about keeping the

streets a bit safer and giving these guys somewhere to go. And

if you give these guys somewhere to go, you'd be surprised. The

illegal activity might clean up a bit and get a bit more professionalism behind

Awesome. And on that note, um, we can probably call

that one cut, done, sorted off

to America, go rip some tires off. Yeah. Let

everyone know where they can find you, YouTube, Instagram, and all that stuff to keep,

Yeah. So obviously my YouTube is Lux for Kyle. Everything is Lux for Kyle.

So Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and

YouTube is all Lux for Kyle. So, uh, If

you can't find that page, you Google Luxfer and you'll find something we're

Yeah, we'll chuck all the links in the comments and as always, give us a follow, Better

Bloke, Instagram, TikTok, pretty much anywhere you can find us

Good luck man, good luck. It's exciting to see what else you're going to

Yeah, there's some cool stuff coming, I wish I could talk about it. They'll

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