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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi and welcome to the You world order showcase. Podcast I'm your host, Jill Hart. And today with me is Emily King, Emily is a breathwork teacher and marketing strategist who blends strategic consultancy with transformative breathwork to guide high powered female entrepreneurs in wellness and lifestyle industries toward holistic business growth, with over 9 years of experience and a unique approach that integrates mindset breathwork and marketing strategies and services.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: She helps female founded brands, achieve scalable, sustainable success, welcome to the show, Emily, it's really great to have you here.

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Emily King: Oh, thank you. It's so good to be here that sustainable success, and the other S is such a tongue twister, so so happy to be here and to have a chat with you. Jill.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Well, and and thank you for acknowledging that I didn't even stumble over any of those 3.

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Emily King: It's so good. It's like you're the 1st person, I think, who's probably read that aloud and not stumbled over that. It's a tongue twister, for sure.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It is, it is. But I practice my breathing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: which is what we're here to talk about. So how did you get involved in doing the breath work. I mean, we all breathe, but breath work is different.

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Emily King: Oh, it's so different. I actually I got involved in it earlier this year. So it is still quite recent for me. You know I've practiced things like Yoga in the past. I actually have done meditation quite deeply. So from about October 2023. For 6 months I actually meditated 40 min a day every single day. So I was really into that sort of mindset world, and getting more and more immersed into it

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Emily King: at from from sort of mid 2023, and kind of going into 2024, and

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Emily King: I actually quit my full time job in London at the in. I think I finished up at the beginning of November 2023. I had about a month, and I decided I was packing it all in going, traveling on my own through Central America for 6 months, and it was whilst I was away that I actually went to and ended up completely unplanned, ended up volunteering at a Wellness festival in Costa Rica called Envision.

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Emily King: and

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Emily King: I actually went to a Breath work class on one of my days off from from the volunteer work, and I just I'd never done it before. Someone had recommended it to me that I'd met at that festival, and I just really connected with it, and you know it could have been the fact that it was really humid, or it could have been the fact that, you know it was a wellness festival, and there were so many people who were prioritizing their health and their wellness, and are so good at that in that space.

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Emily King: But whatever it was like I had this crazy out of body experience which you know. Now I know with deeper breath. Work sessions is very common, and I really felt like I was like my body was hovering as I was doing the breathing. I was lying down, and it felt like somebody was like unzipping me, and like this heat was coming out, it was like the strangest feeling, and afterwards I was like completely hooked. I was like, I don't understand how this is possible, how you can just be

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Emily King: lying on a mat, doing certain breathing, and feel like these tingles all through your body, and feel like

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Emily King: so much lighter and like stress free. So I started practicing it myself. And I found some people online that were sort of doing free classes. And then I got really, really into it. And I started noticing stuff like I was less stressed. I was less anxious. You know, I was traveling a lot at the time, and I was getting travel, anxiety for flights. And so I really felt like when I was doing the breathwork practices on the on the plane, you know when on the takeoff and the landing, or if there was turbulence.

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Emily King: it was like I was resetting my own, you know, cortisol and stress level, as I was doing the breath.

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Emily King: And so I was becoming more and more in control of my own stress. And so it was not like the stress was governing me. It was I was actually able to use the breath as a tool to

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Emily King: basically be the master of my own hormones in this, in a sense. And I just kept like doing it kept feeling amazing. And so I decided I wanted to become a certified teacher.

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Emily King: And I did an 8 week online course, and it was amazing. And you know, there were live sessions with my teacher, and some of it was pre-recorded.

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Emily King: Got my certification. And honestly, ever since. I've just been telling everybody I can about the incredible power that breathwork has. And I was, you know, freelancing already as a marketing strategist. And I was like, how can I bring these 2 things together? They're completely separate. So many people would never think to bring this together. I don't think there are very many people online or in the world doing that.

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Emily King: but I noticed so much when it came to my personal experience, and then me showing up as the owner of my business or me showing up as the owner of my online women's magazine. More and more things were more attainable financially, but also with collaborations or with talking to people like yourself on podcasts, or you know so much was coming into my world.

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Emily King: And the only thing that changed was that I was showing up consistently doing the breath work.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It is amazing what breath work can do. As I said in the beginning, everybody breathes, but

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: just barely. Most people breathe very shallowly, and they're barely getting the oxygen into their body that their body really needs. And when you start doing some of these practices, it just like it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It transforms your mind. I mean, there's like no other way to put it.

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Emily King: Yeah, it. It transforms your mind for sure, and it transforms your body like, I haven't been ill

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Emily King: since I started doing daily breath work

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Emily King: like I am asthmatic, and when I started doing it daily towards the end of March I was in Guatemala, and I did a big hike which was quite a challenging hike.

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Emily King: and it was. The altitude was affecting us during the hike, and I was doing breathwork practices as I was walking, and it really, really, deeply helped me on a respiratory level with my asthma, and I didn't find my chest was getting so tight because I'd finally learned diaphragmatic breathing into my diaphragm and tummy rather than up, you know, in the chest area.

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Emily King: And

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Emily King: you know, so there's so much that it does from that stress level and that mental level. But it's just the body, the emotions, and being able to release emotions. I feel like I could talk about the power of breathwork for so long, because it's just

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Emily King: like you say you breathe

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Emily King: every day without you ever thinking about it. It's so unconscious. And it's literally just taking something that you do every day, and just applying consciousness to it and applying focus to it.

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Emily King: which is so easy to do when you think about it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But most people don't really even realize it's possible. And there's a difference between breathing through your mouth

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: what it does to your body and breathing through your nose, of which nostril you're breathing through because you don't breathe through both of them at the same time, and you can control your your brain activity with your

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: with choosing which nostril you're going to breathe through. I mean, it's it's really there's some simple things you can do, but so powerful.

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Emily King: Yeah, it's it's for me, like, I know that I've barely scratched the service surface because I do pranayama predominantly. And you know, if I was doing holotropic like I mentioned, those are really long journeys.

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Emily King: You can go so deep into your unconscious. You know. You have people having kind of a crazy emotional releases where they're screaming or they're laughing. Or you know, all of this kind of these kind of things happening like even me with Pranayama like. I'm a very visual person, and I often haven't for a while, but I often feel tingles

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Emily King: very often, even when I teach. I kind of get a lot of tingling in my body. But when I do longer kind of journeys I do like get like quite hectic visuals. And like, see a lot of things, or, you know, really notice, like scent and smell, that I don't when I'm sort of not breathing in that way. And when that that kind of breath is churning up that energy and oxygenating cells. So much.

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Emily King: so much stuff just starts happening. And you're kind of like, what is this real like, what am I seeing? Do I make sense of this? Is this just my creative brain, like I think there's so much creativity that lies just in that state, but can't remember exactly what the State's called. I want to say. It's like Alpha or something. But that state before you get to unconsciousness, is where all of those amazing creative ideas are, and we never really access it or give ourselves the time to access it unless we're going to sleep.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And then we go to sleep and forget.

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Emily King: Exactly.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Instead of instead of just lingering there. You can do it in the morning, too. This it's my practice is to do it in the morning before I actually get up, because you you come back

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to consciousness in the same way that you left to get there. And if you're aware of it. As you're coming back into consciousness, you can linger

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: in that data state where you're

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know you're waking up, but you can just still kind of. Hang on to your dreams a little bit and examine what what you're processing

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: was your waking up and

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and practice doing breath exercises so that it just like can be part of who you are instead of just like, Okay, yeah. I saw it and get up and start your day. And then

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: our pandemonium breaks loose.

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Emily King: I'm the same. I quite like doing it 1st thing in the morning, like I'm I'm an advocate for doing it, sitting down. But I think for me. I feel more in my body when I'm lying down. And obviously when you wake up and you're in your bed, you know, provided you know, if someone's with you, you have a headset, or if you're alone, it's sort of easy to do out loud. But you know

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Emily King: it's you're kind of like you say in that that state where you're just coming out of it, and instead of just jumping up straight away like easing yourself into the day just by doing, you know, 5 min, 10 min. It doesn't even have to be that long. And then what I've really noticed is since I've been doing it daily is that when I notice a stress trigger in my day

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Emily King: could be personal, could be professional, whatever it is, something that's immediately I've got a tighter chest, or immediately I feel like, Oh, that's so annoying! Or that's so frustrating.

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Emily King: I actually noticed that I start doing the 4 7 8, which is my default. Breath work and and it's the default breath that I always come back to. It's what I do when I'm traveling, and

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Emily King: it's like my version of a mantra, if you know, it was like a kind of meditative word that I would come back to. It's like just breathing that 4, 7, 8, and that rhythm I can feel myself calming down and just being like, Okay, my cortisol level spiked. And now it's coming back down. And now I can go on with my day, and I don't need to worry like, yes, that thing is annoying. And instead of focusing on that, I'm just gonna let it flow. The next thing will come. I can move on from it, and not dwell.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I learned something that and I I'll take this back to I I do box breathing

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: for the that's my normal

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: default when I'm stressed, but I had somebody tell me that if you put your hands together in kind of the prayer position

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that it resets your body, it ties your body together, and I thought that was very interesting, because when we we

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: we're taught to pray at night

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: before you go to sleep, and it's a

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I've I've incorporated just holding this position with my hands as I do box breathing

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to fall off to sleep.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it it really does like center your whole body, and it it relieves any stress that might be sitting in their residual anxiety, or whatever from the day

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it just like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Does that little.

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Emily King: Do you put pressure on it when you do it? Do you like push your hands together.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: No, I don't. I don't. But you could I? I suppose I it's just it's I think it has to do with the fingertips being together.

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Emily King: Yeah, I might try that. That's quite a nice thing to do at the end of the day. If it's like a reset before you go to sleep because I'm such a as well like an advocate of like

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Emily King: haven't done it in a while. But I was really into a rhythm of like writing down the 3 things I wanted from the day in the morning after the breathing, and then literally just before bed, going through and writing my 3 highlights, and then on a different piece of paper, because actually.

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Emily King: I would find that I would go into bed and thinking of the positive thing.

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Emily King: I would wake up in a better kind of state rather than you know. Historically, when I was working full time in London, it would be you'd come home after a very long commute from work. Tired kind of feel like you had pollution all over your face from your commute, and always moan to your friends or your partner, or whoever about how bad your day was, or something that annoyed you, and you kind of go into that sleep, mode, and that relaxation mode. With such negativity and such like.

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Emily King: not even necessarily always about work, it could be anything. But I really.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Negative lower vibration that we just don't want to be in.

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Emily King: And just even doing a small thing. It doesn't have to be 3 doing one thing and just run one thing you're looking forward to for the day. And one thing that actually was your real highlight.

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Emily King: That practice, it's so simple is like the best way to go to bed. And if you're not into breath work, or you're not into meditation, and you just need something to start.

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Emily King: That is the best, I think thing to start because you start looking back over time, and it's hard to think, in the 1st instance, about like

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Emily King: 3 things. Gosh! What 3 things am I looking forward to? It's just Monday like, I don't know my client call, or it always starts work related. And then what you find is that it ends up when you're looking back at the things that you actually did and the highlights that you actually have. It's like

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Emily King: the sun was shining, and I like walked in the sun for 5 min, or something that was completely irrelevant to your career or to your job, and it was much more aligned to you. Which I love.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I I think that's how our lives are supposed to go like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: yes, you have things that you're going to do during the day. But ultimately you're living, and the living part is breathing and seeing and experience. It's all experiential versus

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: mundane task oriented.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's the experience you're having while you're doing the things that you have to get done.

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Emily King: Exactly. And I just think sometimes people need a little bit of a reminder, because I know

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Emily King: the twenties version of me needed that reminder so much, which is why I think I've gone so far and deep into the breathing and the breath work. And you know it's still very much early days for me in that space, constantly wanting to learn more and more about it, because.

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Emily King: like we said at the beginning, you don't get taught this stuff in school, and if you don't get taught this stuff in school, you don't learn about it as you're growing up, and you know it could be a fantastic tool for a teenager, going through exams or going through very hectic hormonal change.

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Emily King: It could be. If if I had had it then I think

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Emily King: maybe it would have been harder to get me to pay attention. Don't get me wrong, but you know it's such a fantastic tool that especially kids could learn. And then, you know.

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Emily King: practice as adults.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's there's actually some studies that have been done that show that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you learn better in that Theta state.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So if you're sitting in front of a a group of of children who are in that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: not real present, but not not present state. If you can teach them how to get there, they're more likely to learn and retain that information and apply it in their lives. Because that's the suggestive state

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: for your consciousness.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You're subconscious.

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Emily King: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what it's like, where where you are in terms of teaching about that kind of thing. But

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Emily King: I can. Well, I can. Yeah, same as me. I can totally totally appreciate that you would learn better in that state, because you are so much more creatively inclined, and so much more, I guess, just like open to receiving.

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Emily King: and that those ideas in your mind and your imagination is so much more expansive, that from a learning perspective. Of course, that means you're going to learn better and retain information better. And I think that the only people I know from kind of growing up, and from being in school, who would have known diaphragmatically.

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Emily King: who did singing

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Emily King: and actually having kind of gone in deep into breath work in the last year, when I ask friends who I know who did singing or were in choirs, or, you know, did practice that kind of breathing. They don't do it as adults. They know how to do it.

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Emily King: but then it's actually taken me to have that conversation to then say, But are you doing that in your day to day. And they're like.

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Emily King: Oh, no, I I don't like I just I never really pay attention to how I'm breathing

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Emily King: and actually just asking people in your own world. Those questions is so there's so much rich data and understanding like literally, nobody is doing this like, well, I say, literally nobody but anyone outside of practitioners

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Emily King: isn't really doing it, and if they do it, you know, they might have done one breathwork session here they might have one done one there. They might have explored Reiki. They might have done meditation. They might have done a sound bath.

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Emily King: They're all quite desperate, like they've done one, you know, 6 months ago. They've done 1 3 months ago.

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Emily King: Not many people other than the practitioners themselves

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Emily King: understand why it's so important to do these types of things consistently. And I do say to a lot of people I work with, you know.

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Emily King: it's the exact same thing as exercise. If you go and do the gym every day. Obviously you'll see the results in your body, but you know you have to be doing it for quite a long time you have to be doing it, for, you know

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Emily King: an hour, plus if you do breath work for 10 min just 10 min every day, consistently.

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Emily King: Not only do you feel those transformations. You do see them in yourself. You see that you are more bright. You see that you're more positive, but you also feel that way. It happens so much faster.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It doesn't even have to be 10 min all at one. Go

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you can, you know, just when you think about it, or give yourself a reminder, you know. Put it on your phone or your watch, or whatever that you know. I'm going to take a minute

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and breathe in a certain pattern, and the patterns do matter.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Different patterns help with different things that you're experiencing. But they're they're huge, I mean, I,

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: as a postmenopausal woman.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I struggled with sleep until a friend of mine told me about box breathing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and I have never struggled with sleep again.

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Emily King: That's amazing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And then that was a life-changing gift that she gave me.

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Emily King: This is what I mean. It's it does change your life like and it. And this is kind of what I want to do like. I don't really care if people you know sign up to 50 lessons because I'd rather they sign up to 4 or one and come away with a tool.

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Emily King: The idea is to give people that tool, like box breathing, has been from your friend for you, and so that they can go away. They don't necessarily have to be guided, but they can go away. And when those stresses come up, and when those cortisol spikes happen.

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Emily King: you have a way of resetting your nervous system without knowing necessarily the biology of it.

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Emily King: You are like, I said at the beginning, kind of in control of.

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Emily King: you know, hormones which I guess, also, as a postmenopausal, women would have been great during and premenopause as well. It's something that you know, menopause brands should really be considering. It's something that sleep brands should a hundred percent be considering as well. And I actually recently spoke to a woman who has a company

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Emily King: all around, kind of supplements and stuff for women going through miscarriage. And she said, actually, these kinds of things would be incredible for women going through miscarriages as well, because you are so stressed. You've had hormones from pregnancy, depending on what? What stage you were at when that happened.

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Emily King: You've had your mind planning certain things, and then it's been taken away from you. And so this stress the sadness. There's so much emotion in that there's no way to release it. It's so trapped in your body, and it's something that I've never experienced. But.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it's it is. It's a very real thing. Your body is getting ready to bring new life in the world. And then suddenly, you're not. And

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: on top of all of the emotional, because you get become attached, you know.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Like, you know, you're expecting to walk away with another human being in 9 months, and and then

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: then this isn't going to happen. And and then there's the sudden flushing of hormones, because your body produces different hormones at different stages of your pregnancy to maintain a pregnancy. And

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's it's a big deal. It's a lot bigger deal than most.

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Emily King: People.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Realize and definitely that then men realize because it's just like, and you know, even your friends who haven't gone through it. They don't know what to say, and and you don't know what to tell them, because, you know

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: hopefully, you don't have that happen to you more than once in your life because it's just horrible.

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Emily King: Yeah. And it's so traumatic. And there's so much to be said for having a tool that essentially, if you know how to use your breath is free.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Right. That's.

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Emily King: Not something that you're paying for, unless it's a couple of guided sessions to get you into the learning space to understand the tool.

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Emily King: But once you have that tool, it's free, and if you are in that place and experiencing those emotions, those hormones, that kind of

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Emily King: That's like the best tool that you could possibly have. And so if if I can teach people to to kind of, give that, give them that tool, so that if something were to happen like that in their life, they would have something to rely on that they know would help help them to what degree it would help them would very much depend on how they engage with it. But

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Emily King: then that's just a win on in my book completely every time.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I, yeah, it's just an amazing. It's an amazing tool that people have. So how do you connect that with marketing? I'm I'm really kind of curious about that.

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Emily King: So what I really found with when I was having kind of like discovery calls with potential clients and also with clients that I've sort of signed with and still work with. There are so many common issues that come up, and it's the same. When I was doing kind of breathwork as a separate entity. And it's like with breathwork. It's around limiting beliefs

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Emily King: around finance. It's around a lot more around the mental side than necessarily like respiratory health or cardiovascular health, which is funny because breathing in this way actually does improve your health. But more of it is on the mental side, and so, especially with female founders. It was around financial concerns, financial worries, investment. It was around, you know, so much self doubt and lack of

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Emily King: the, you know in themselves, they have amazing products, or they have amazing services. It's that, you know, society has been built in a way that we do doubt, and we do have fears, and we do have worries, and they do hold us back. And so what I really found is that by talking to them and understanding those sort of pain, points and worries and anxieties.

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Emily King: something they would usually, you know, go to a kind of meditation coach, or somebody in the kind of spiritual practice to help them sort out and to be honest, not everybody does that because they're not necessarily spiritually inclined, or they don't necessarily feel like they know and understand those benefits. But I'm sort of working in a space where I'm trying to bridge that gap.

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Emily King: So where I have clients that I already work with. I'm onboarding them into breathwork and offering them sessions, so making it available to them, because actually, those who do do it, and I have one client who has done both. And she had really struggled with imposter syndrome. And she's launching this new website for her new like private transfer company in the French Alps.

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Emily King: and she'd never really done blog posts before. She didn't know how to write. She was like, I'm not a copywriter, I was like, well, that's a limiting belief right there you can do. If it's your brand and you believe in it, you can do anything. You don't have to be a marketer to do marketing. You don't have to be a writer to be able to write a blog post as long as it is aligned with who you are, what your brand is about, what you are selling.

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Emily King: and it it's in your tone, and it's and it's you and the version of you that, you know, is

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Emily King: I'm already doing that, and I have the confidence to do that rather than the current version of her, which was, Oh, I don't think I can do this. I'm a bit worried about this it was like, let's breathe through that feeling of fear.

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Emily King: Let's breathe through that feeling of imposter syndrome to really get you to the other side and be able to say, not only can I be a person that can write this. I enjoy doing it, because as soon as you start enjoying doing that thing, whether that is creating content, whether that is showing up as the face of your business, because a lot of female founders struggle with visibility and being seen

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Emily King: once you kind of are able to breathe through that and notice when you feel those feelings of fear rather than stress necessarily.

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Emily King: and using that tool, you can then get to the other side, which is where you're super proud of what you've done. You are really confident in your pro, in your product, your brand, your services, who you are. You're able to talk about it without feeling like that's arrogant because it's not.

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Emily King: It's just you being very much who you are, and also being able to talk about your brand in a way that doesn't mean you're direct selling. But it means you're inspiring. You're attracting the right people towards you. You are like showing up as that amazing, incredible version of you that is, selling out all of those products, or selling out or getting new clients, or whatever that goal end goal is that you have.

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Emily King: And she also struggled quite a lot with sleep. So she was. Postmenopausal as well, I say was, is postmenopausal as well, and she was really struggling with sleep, and she was waking up in the middle of the night, and she was waking up really early, and she could never get back to sleep. And so I often ask people in my network like, what kind of tailored breath work do you want? And she'd asked me specifically for a sleep one.

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Emily King: So I created this sleep. Breathwork sent it to her, and she sent me a text saying she did it, and she'd slept the whole way through the night for the 1st time in 10 years.

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Emily King: and she didn't know if it was a fluke. I didn't know whether to be offended or not, but I said, You know, what do it again tonight? It's not a fluke. I'm confident it's not a fluke like, do it again tonight I got a text the next day, she said. I slept through again like I don't know what's happening. And then she had another night where she woke up in the middle of the night, but she put the breath work back on, and said she slept right through. She slept through her alarm, and so actually, she's then been able to

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Emily King: be a little bit more well rested to then show up in her business and be able to kind of. We've launched the website. She's got new clients coming in it's the season over in France at the moment. So things are going really well for her, but I think it's being able to get over those personal limited limitations. To then actually show up, be empowered. Be confident, as the business owner.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm telling you. It's it's a life changer edit.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: simple thing, but it it really does make all the difference. And I do see how, if you help people understand how breathwork works, it makes everything so much easier. And and you can take control of your of what you're thinking about, because sometimes I feel we just fall into these thought patterns.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: time when you recognize that you're maybe falling into a pattern that doesn't serve you all that well, to just breathe. That's what I was talking about, you know. Take a minute or 2 and just practice one or 2 of those breath patterns, and then

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Emily King: It is a little bit, and one thing I have done a few times in a couple of my sessions is actually having a few affirmations like positive ones. So say your limiting belief is, I can't write this blog post, or you know, whatever it is, and actually being like

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Emily King: breathing in the affirmation, and and you know it's often guided. So it's harder, maybe, to do when you're alone, unless you're thinking of it, but breathing in like.

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Emily King: Not only am I amazing at writing about my own brand, but I can write in a confident, refreshing tone of voice, and breathing that in

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Emily King: and then, when you're ready, like breathing it out, out, the feeling that you can't do that thing, and actually, by doing that and integrating affirmations. It's quite a nice way of maybe having that pause and saying, Okay, I've noticed that negative thought.

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Emily King: I'm gonna breathe in the positive version of that thought into my body, and I'm going to breathe out the negative version of that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Just the the releasing of it and the letting it go. Sometimes it just takes being conscious of what

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Emily King: But I think half of the battle is noticing those negative thought patterns like so many people, you know, especially with how we look and aesthetics and comparing ourselves to others. It's like it's so ingrained. And so it's actually very difficult, in the 1st instance, to start recognizing your own negative self talk.

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Emily King: And it's not until you start kind of doing these practices and start integrating sort of

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Emily King: I've really just been harsh on myself just then. Oh, gosh! Why did I think that like I need to start.

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Emily King: and the more you do these practices be it breath work, be it meditation, be it sound baths, whatever it is for you that works, and the more that you start to notice that negative self chatter which is all just you in your own head. It's not what anybody else thinks it's just you building the narrative in your own.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thinks anything about other people. They think about themselves.

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Emily King: Yeah, it's completely self generated. It's selfish to a degree. But as soon as you start recognizing it, and you're doing it more, it's just like more and more. And then that that kind of positive trajectory just keeps going. The energy keeps churning, and it's like you just keep getting closer and closer to what you want and your goals, and it happens so quickly as soon as you start recognizing it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I think that takes us full circle to the gratitude part. Because

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: if you make a point like it's really easy to get up in the morning and get dressed, and think you know God, I wish I was 10 pounds lighter.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Why

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: does that really serve you? Can't you just say, man, I'm so glad I have this body and my legs work today.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Let's go have a day.

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Emily King: Yeah, it's so true. Like

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Emily King: when you're breathing. Thank you. Lungs for being able to breathe. There are lots of people who don't have working lungs, who have respiratory conditions, who aren't able to breathe in the way that you can breathe. And when you're doing breathwork session.

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Emily King: lots of people can't breathe in a way that, and don't even understand that breathwork can be a tool to energize. And you feel these amazing tingles, or you feel this relaxation go. If you're somebody who's done that once or done that a few times. You are so lucky because there are so many people that need that in their life that are so closed off.

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Emily King: They won't even try. So by trying. You're immediately putting yourself in that space, and you should be so grateful, and I always say it towards the end of my sessions, like, Thank yourself, like you have just dedicated X amount of time solely to you.

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Emily King: and that is actually something to be really proud of, grateful for, because so many people

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Emily King: are unable to allow themselves even that half an hour, or that hour, or however long, and so it's done.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Minutes or 5 min or 2 min, you know everybody starts somewhere.

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Emily King: Yeah, exactly. And yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Minutes recognize. Hey? I did it for 2 min. Today I was conscious for 2 min tomorrow maybe it'll be 3. But for today I'm just glad I got 2 min in.

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Emily King: you should be able to be like so grateful that you can do that, so happy that you've been able to serve yourself, your body, your mind, your soul, your emotions, whatever it is, in that, in that length of time. But yeah, it's consistency, and it's not constant consistency. In 30 min and 1 h increments. It's just something.

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Emily King: I think, in in Yoga. I think the practice is all about, and Pilates as well, just coming back to the mat. Even when you feel like you don't want to do it, even on the days where you're ill, or you're hungover, or you're feeling just not yourself.

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Emily King: even on those worst days, you know, they say in those sort of Yoga and Pilates. It's about coming back to the mat, but for breath work it's just about coming back to your breath, and 1 min

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's 60 seconds in your entire life.

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Emily King: It goes so quickly. So if you can do on those worst days, if you can do 60 seconds.

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Emily King: it's still something to be proud of, and it's still something to be grateful for.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, for sure.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, Emily, how do people work with you? Is it one on one groups? How does that look.

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Emily King: So I've got so I do one on one breathworks. I do a lot of like collaborative breathworks with communities usually like free ones. And I have some pre recorded breathworks as part of my subscription service, which is called the Breathwork Collective, so you can buy them one off as pre recorded, and they're around 8 to 10 pounds per session. So they're very much themed around.

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Emily King: You know. There's ones for calling in romantic love. There's ones for imposter, syndrome, emotional release, a couple of others as well around like energizing your morning.

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Emily King: or if you sign up to the subscription, it's 10 pounds a month for the whole subscription, and you get access to every single one unlimited. And you're able to kind of log into the website. Come back to them as much or as few times as you want and it's very. It's very interactive. And I add new ones. Add at least 2 new breathwork sessions every month that those subscribers can

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Very cool, and I know that you offer a free breathwork audio.

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Emily King: Yup, I have 2 free breathwork audios, and I have one free breathwork beginners Video, which is an unwind and sort of nice, gentle introduction to breathwork for those who've not done it before, and maybe don't understand it. And so I'll definitely put the link for listeners to watch that video should they want? There's like a free link that I can send.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you so much for joining me today. This has been really an amazing conversation. What's the one thing you hope the audience takes away from our conversation today.

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Emily King: Oh, gosh! What a question! I think, making space for themselves and

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Emily King: paying attention to their breath like you don't have to do a breath work class, or commit to anything to pay attention to your breath, or even notice whether you're breathing into your chest or your tummy.

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Emily King: Most of them will probably be breathing into their chest, because that's the more common.

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Emily King: And so if you can take away just being conscious of how you breathe

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Emily King: and starting to focus on it. Then we've done our job. Like, you know, we've we've made you consider the way in which you're showing up with your breath. And so, yeah, I think that's that would be the best takeaway.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you. Thank you so much for joining me today.

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Emily King: Thanks, Jill. It's been such a pleasure to chat.