Jason Kidman (00:02)
Right, where Jason and Lane, two humans obsessed with helping you feel better, live longer and simplify your health.
Start over. ⁓
BT (00:19)
We've only got 30 minutes, man.
Jason Kidman (00:22)
Okay.
All right, we are Jason and Lane, two humans obsessed with helping you feel better, live longer, and simplify the science of health. Between us, we've spent years in the worlds of peptides, DNA, mindfulness, and optimization. But we believe real health shouldn't be about perfection or protocols. It's about understanding your body and giving it what it needs. So inside Omega,
is where we decode the science, get real about the struggle, and share tools that actually work. So no overwhelm, no ego, just honest conversation that help you feel your best.
Lane Kennedy (01:09)
Welcome to the show.
Jason Kidman (01:09)
And
welcome, Brian is with us.
Lane Kennedy (01:15)
Jason?
Jason Kidman (01:18)
Yes, yes we do.
Lane Kennedy (01:18)
We have a guest.
BT (01:23)
Thanks for having me.
Jason Kidman (01:23)
Total stud.
Welcome, Brian.
Brian, tell us about yourself.
BT (01:34)
man, ⁓ we don't have that much time.
Jason Kidman (01:37)
Hehehehehe
Lane Kennedy (01:38)
Okay,
Brian, okay, so let's back up. Let's think about like, how do we know Brian?
BT (01:45)
So I guess how I found you guys was, I've in my late 50s, so I'm 62 and probably ⁓ at 57-ish, I started getting a lot more serious peaks and valleys in health and in ⁓ that journey. ⁓ Not really ever staying consistent with my workout regiments and lifestyle in that space.
about my late fifties I started to get man I'm getting this is starting to get serious and I'm starting to get to the other side of the yardstick so to speak on the on the game of life and so I started to get I started enjoying CrossFit and just started getting more serious about my health in general from ⁓ a getting in shape standpoint. ⁓ And ⁓ that was good but I was still drinking booze and eating the wrong foods and and not really seeing the product progress.
that I was hoping to see. But still getting up and doing the work, so to speak, on the athletic side. Fast forward to 60, I guess. I started really paying attention to my food and started actually getting a blood test and taking a look at some of that kind of thing, getting serious about some other
health related topics of and beyond us going to the gym. And then, at a year ago, cause it'll be a year, it'll be, it'll be a year here pretty soon. Just another, another week and a half or so went through a pretty emotional time in my life. I, and I dropped the alcohol. That was a big deal for me just because I, uh, not the kind of alcoholic that gets up in the morning and thinks about drinking, but
And not the kind of person that could, I mean, I go out to dinner and have a glass of wine or a couple of glasses of wine and do fine, but kind of like a snake that kind of comes out of nowhere and bite you. would be after a couple of glasses of wine in our cabin or whatever, it just got to the beat of the point to where it just became a problem because I do love to binge drink. I mean, I love to party. So, ⁓ that was really dragging me down and,
So I stopped the drinking and got that taken care of and I knew mentally that that was a done deal. I closed the book on that, closed that chapter in my life. And so that was a huge, this fantastic. So anywhere I'm going with this is that I finally got my act together as far as not poisoning my body with alcohol. I was really eating, was tracking my food, tracking my macros, eating in deficit.
going up up going above you know knowing what my resting heart rate was and what my calorie intake was all that kind of stuff. I was getting my my walk my steady state cardio in and after about 90 to 100 I guess probably four months. I still wasn't really seeing the change in my body and I wasn't really feeling as good as I I stopped drinking I got that done and I and so what's wrong because I'm I'm kind of a tiny bone dude and five I always like to say I'm 511 but I'm probably four five ten five you know and
Tiny boat, I'm probably, should be like 170 or something like that. And man, I could not get off a 190 for the, I didn't know what I was doing wrong. So I just, what is going wrong? am I, what's going on here? So I just, I ended up listening to a Ben Greenfield podcast and Jay Campbell and the FOH platform was mentioned in that podcast because Grim, Ben Grim had Jay on for like an hour. So I listened to that. I like paused that, I paused that.
podcast like halfway through that thing I immediately searched the fully optimized pop platform so It really intrigued me so that I probably spent hours just like reading up and watching Jay Campbell and and hunters info so I immediately just brought grabbed my credit card and spent a couple hundred bucks to join the platform for 90 days and
was on there right away. And immediately, I just put in some notes in there and say, hey, you know what? I don't want to learn all this stuff. I don't want to figure all this stuff out. I just like, can I just pay somebody to help me? So I need to get cracking here. So that's when Lane jumped on there, because she was a moderator on the platform, and said, hey, I get it. She wasn't talking to me. She was just corresponding through the platform. She says, I think I've got somebody that would be a good fit for you.
Lane Kennedy (06:24)
Done.
and
BT (06:38)
Because I was really in that point. don't want to don't want to, you know, I don't want to be taught how to fish. I just want to I just want to I just want to give me a fish to eat here. So she said, I think I've got some it's a good fit for you. So that's when Lane introduced me to Jason and really the rest is history because immediately we connected and hit it off. And I just so appreciated the way Jason, you know, coached me up and.
and handled his business as far as teaching me what to do, how he operates. And ⁓ so I just said, let's go. Just broke out the credit card, spent the money, got a bunch of stuff that I didn't know what the hell I was doing and mixed it all up. we probably, we spent way more time, I think the first time Jason with onboarding me than you probably wanted to. that was, was, was.
Lane Kennedy (07:17)
you
But you're, you're bringing up a really good point
here, Brian, you're bringing up a really good point. And that is you didn't want to, you didn't want to have to figure it out, right? You were ready and willing to spend some money, some energy, some time investing in your beautiful everyday longevity, right? Like this is, you were like, I want to do this. And I think you started this longevity kind of experience back during COVID because you realized
BT (07:36)
Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (08:02)
I'm in trouble here. I'm not getting any results. I need to stop doing something. So you slowly started to change some things. And then last year you were like, okay, something else needs to shift. And you put down the alcohol. Then you start to see like the brain starts to get some clarity and then you're like, okay, I'm ready to invest. Bingo. Here, here we come, right? Here comes Jason and Lane now like boom, right?
BT (08:24)
Yes.
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, because I
Jason Kidman (08:29)
And then you start searching.
BT (08:31)
during COVID it was your exactly because I I was I never did get vaccinated and I'm not and but it's also one of those things to where I wasn't 100 % against it. It was just didn't feel right. And so I was waiting and I was waiting until the last second and I was probably going to get vaccinated. But I didn't want to. And then I got so damn sick. mean, I could not move out of my bed for five days. I was like,
Lane Kennedy (08:35)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
BT (08:58)
I mean, I got COVID so bad and it was brutal. ⁓ But then when I came out of that, I know, you know what? I did the hard work. I put the heavy lifting into where I got natural immunity. There's no way in hell I'm gonna get vaccinated. This is not gonna happen. So that you're exactly right. And I'm glad you brought that up because it not got me on this journey of the whole, you know, and I'm just all about the whole bureaucracy of.
I'm kind of, one of those people to where it's just the food industry with big pharma and just how it's all such a shit show. just, it drives me crazy. So yeah. then so, but I did do my homework. really felt comfortable with the peptides in terms of being a natural part of our body. as far as the amino, the amino, so I did my homework to like, Hey, I'm not doing something weird here.
I really did in my mind know that, you know, I just need to, need to go in just like having a car that needs to have a 50,000 mile, you know, tune up or a hundred thousand mile tune up. You can have a beautiful vehicle and it's just the interior is perfect. The exterior is perfect. It's just like, I never want to get rid of this rig, but it still doesn't, it needs to be tuned up. And so that's why I just knew I needed a tune up. And so that's, you know, that's kind of where, that's kind of where, where my mind was.
Lane Kennedy (10:10)
Right.
Right, so I introduced you to Jason and then Jason came in with like, boom, the guns, like, let's go. ⁓ Let's put you on a protocol. Jason, what did you put him on? Like, how did you approach Brian? What was your angle?
BT (10:22)
Yeah.
Jason Kidman (10:31)
Okay,
so Brian, think when he filled out the form, I have three different parts of the form where it says on a scale one to five, like how all in are you on based on the number of things you'll get, the number of tracking you'll have to do, how much work it's gonna be. And the other one was like on a financial level, one out of five, right? And most people put...
Lane Kennedy (10:38)
Mm-hmm.
Jason Kidman (10:58)
four out of five or five out of five, just because that's what they think they want. ⁓ But in Brian's case, like that's what he wanted. He wanted a five out of five. And so I'm pulling it up right now. I'm going to share a little bit about what we did. so we went heavy on, ⁓ gosh, we went heavy on everything. Now, I normally...
You gotta understand too though that I normally like to keep things a little bit simple when we start so people can get, yeah.
Lane Kennedy (11:36)
Brian's not simple. he went
in with like ready. Again, he's already painted that picture of like, want it. So you gave it to him, which is so brilliant. You meet people where they're at and where they want to go, which is, that's an incredible practitioner.
Jason Kidman (11:43)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so we went in with some brain cognition support with Semax epitalon for longevity, the growth hormone peptides, two of them, bromontane as an add-on for the pre-workout, the tesofensine for some satiety benefits and weight loss benefits, as well as some clarity.
Lane Kennedy (12:10)
Mmm.
Did you like that,
Ryan, the tense offencing?
BT (12:18)
Yeah, you know, and I've reloaded a couple of times. I don't have any now, but no, that's, I need to get some more, because I love it. If I have a project or something that I need to really be on my A game, it really gives me a nice, I haven't been on it in terms of an actual protocol. I've had it, so yeah, it's great.
Lane Kennedy (12:28)
huh.
Okay, yeah.
Keep going, Jason.
Jason Kidman (12:39)
Yeah, and
the interesting thing about that is, you know, when I coach people on it, it's, you know, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, you don't take it every day. You take it every day, you're going to get massive anxiety because it has an eight day half life. ⁓ So the next one was, you know, we actually combined two GLPs, you know, Tirzepatide and Retatrutide, which, which back when they were both available, that was all the rage. That was what everybody was doing.
Lane Kennedy (12:46)
Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
Yeah, forget it.
Jason Kidman (13:07)
And now that only one's available, you know, for most people anyway, like it now only one is a good one. You know, I'm like, no, it's if you can get the synergy of them both in a micro dose, then it's you're going to get a home run. We went in with a spermidine and C60 for anti-aging and we did the serums, you know, the topical out, you know, outside in. So peptides are almost always inside out.
Lane Kennedy (13:20)
You're golden.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Jason Kidman (13:37)
you know, inside out holistic, but there is some outside in kind of things. So the outside in players would be things like the Melanotan 1 you know, for tanning, but there's also immunity benefits to that as well. But then the copper peptide serum and moisturizer, just people love that stuff. And then we started the basic two bioregulators and it wasn't very soon after that, that you also got the meta shred, right? The BAM 15 and the sloop.
Lane Kennedy (13:54)
Mm-hmm.
Jason Kidman (14:06)
capsules and you went all in on those, I think that's a heavy player for you. In fact, let me share with you guys, if I recall from memory, Brian, you correct me if I'm wrong and fix this story to its truth. But if I recall, I believe you went from 27 % body fat when you started to, was it 14 % in three months?
BT (14:36)
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just right. Right. That sounds about right.
Lane Kennedy (14:41)
And you know what, Brian, just looking at your recent labs, I would love to see your labs from like 2021, right? I mean, your labs are phenomenal. Have you seen his recent labs, Jason? I was like, this is like a 19 year old man right now. It's so cool. Yeah.
Jason Kidman (14:49)
Mmm.
I don't think so.
BT (15:05)
Wow,
yeah, like I responded to your email links are getting back to me lane, but I didn't know if they were that good. just I just kind of do what I do. And so I know we've got things to work on. I think I had some I've got some liver things I would need to be protective of or whatever. But but I didn't know in general they were that good.
Lane Kennedy (15:23)
In general,
they're stunning. was like, this is, we're good. We're great.
BT (15:30)
But yeah, no, yeah, I, it's been exciting. It's so much fun to be able, cause it takes a while. 90 days is not very long, but still when you start doing the protocol for the very first time and you're in those high twenties or mid twenties and you want, know, so it's, I want to live longer, but it's also really fun to look better. So getting a little bit of immediate gratification that's, still got to, you still got to work your ass off. That's the whole thing that I think that most people
I mean, I'm speaking in general terms. I don't mean to speak out of ⁓ that everybody's this way, but I think that this whole ⁓ GLP-1 ozempic craze, which is so fantastic, it's such a blessing for society in general, as long as it's done right, it's administered right, let people know how to do the work. And so just, yeah.
Lane Kennedy (16:22)
And you're still on a GLP,
right? You're still on red, you're still on rhetoric. Little.
BT (16:25)
Well, I stopped for,
but yeah, I am now. just, think Jason, I think it just started again last two or three weeks or whatever. So, so yeah, I'm back. I'm back on it again, just cause I missed it. And I kind of liked, I just like not having that food noise. I like to be able to be in a position to where my mindset is food is fuel and I'm not thinking about it in terms of it's a habit or it's just like, Oh, that really sounds good. So I'm just going to shove something else down my pie hole.
Lane Kennedy (16:29)
Yeah.
Yeah.
BT (16:55)
because it's like a something to do. You know, it's got, there's gotta be a reason why anything goes in this mouth and it's gotta be like an alarm goes off. Oh, I need my, I need X amount of protein. I need this or whatever, because it doesn't mean that I don't go out for a nice dinner or whatever. And I ended up eating half of it or whatever. And you need dessert. That's not the point. The point is, that 80, 90 % of the time I'm looking at fuel as what it is. And it's just a source of
of being the best version of myself and not something that's destroying me. So as long as I can keep as much of that noise from screwing with me, the better. So that's why I like it.
Lane Kennedy (17:35)
And I think that, you you being on that little bit of a GLP really helps because I'm looking at your adipogenesis, the pathway here, you've got some really heavy hitters that will just put you back at that 25 % body fat. Just it's your natural, it would be like a natural state for you to just be a little plumper as you age.
BT (17:50)
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. ⁓
Jason Kidman (18:00)
Well, I think
to add to the GLP thing is, you know, I share with people one thing often, and that is, you know, they say, Jason, I just, I feel so much better when I'm on Tirzepatide. Tirzepatide makes me feel better. And I'm like, and here's the thing, I have a caveat to this. It's fairly new. Lane, might not know this, but my old response has always been, and it still reigns true,
But it's not Tirzepatide that's making you feel better. It's what's Tirzepatide is doing or Retatrutide or stay away from Semaglutide It's garbage. But it's taking down the food noise. And so you don't crave the sugar. You don't crave the processed foods. You don't crave the garbage. And you feel better. It's not the Tirzepatide. It's not the...
the peptide. Now, with that said, there is a caveat, and I learned this just a month or so ago from the whole Torf Medical Group. And the doc there told me directly, you know, we're actually seeing in our huge client base of patients, ⁓ patient base of thousands of patients that we are seeing a direct link
of inflammation and GLPs. So the GLP in and of itself is actually a peptide in our body, you know, and if you have a slightly elevated level of those peptides, there is a naturally lower amount of inflammation. So I never really knew that. ⁓ I don't know if that's in any of the literature, you know, it's because it's used for weight loss and satiety and all these other things, but
Lane Kennedy (19:29)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Jason Kidman (19:58)
But so, so yeah, it's like, yeah, we have all of our patients that are, even if they don't need to lose weight, we have an amount of microdose of it just for that reason. If they're dealing with inflammation.
BT (20:09)
I think too, it's just on the fasting side of it, which I did, I kind of correlate those because of just because you're eating less typically. mean, if you're somebody that needs to lose weight and you're on a GLP one, you're just going to eat less. And I just feel so, so good when I, I haven't done, I haven't done a full 72 hour water fast running for a while, but I love doing it. It's not like I'm afraid of it or whatever. I just haven't done it. So I need to, I need to do that. Cause I
It's just amazing how much better I feel when I just don't eat. and so you're just like so much energy, feel so much better and everybody should fast more. when you kind of, so anyway, I put that, I put them in the same spot because we all know that people that are skinny live longer. I don't care whether it's worms or bugs or people or whatever, just don't eat so damn much food and you're going to live longer. anyway, I'm all on board with it.
Lane Kennedy (20:54)
Thank you.
And then also when you're not eating, I'm just thinking about your blueprint as I have it open here, right? ⁓ It supports your detoxification pathway, supporting your inflammation pathway, your methylation, your oxidative, that whole cellular pathway is going to be supported when you don't put food in your body for a couple of days or even 24 hours because you do have those down-regulated, you have the down-regulated GSTM-1, right? That's all about the carcinogenics.
BT (21:10)
Mmm.
Lane Kennedy (21:28)
and you do have the APO E, E2, E4, which a lot of people go crazy over that one. And we talked about that in your session of how we don't need to make, make this a big deal right now. We just need to be aware of it, but using fasting, you know, eating less food is definitely going to support both of those genes. Yeah.
Jason Kidman (21:52)
And the protocol makes intermittent fasting easy.
Lane Kennedy (21:56)
Mm-hmm.
BT (21:57)
Yeah,
yep.
Lane Kennedy (22:00)
So with current day, right, you're on how many peptides a week?
BT (22:08)
Well, I was just texting Jason yesterday or ⁓ sometime just recently where I'm on my peptide app. ⁓ man, my protocol on my NAD plus and my NNN and my, you know, I just finished a protocol and it's been fantastic. So it all started out with an SS30. So all mitochondrial work. And I'll tell you what, ⁓ I just am such a believer in that because
That to me has been a huge game changer from a, well, mean, we've got a cabin in central Washington and there's a really cool switchbacks. go up, if anybody's ever heard of the Gorge Amphitheater, ⁓ it's one of like the top places to go, venue to see a concert in the country. you drop down from this cliff down these switchbacks to get down on the Columbia River and where a place is,
And I'm not a big cardio running guy, ⁓ but I can throw my tennis shoes on and just say, hey, I'm to go for a run. And I'll just run up that hill. I mean, it's a 40 minute run for me to go from up to the top and back again. I feel like I'm Forrest Gump, where you're just running. You just run. You just run. Because what do you do? What are you doing? I don't know. I'm just running. I don't even like break a sweat.
Lane Kennedy (23:30)
running.
Jason Kidman (23:35)
Ha ha.
BT (23:38)
And it's just like, mean, this is a bad ass hill. mean, it's just like, it's where a person should go train for triathlons or something, know, where between running and riding your bike up the thing and Joe jump in the river. But, ⁓ so it's been really cool to be able to get my metabolism and oxygen in my cells. Everything just working to where everything's just really humming right now. So, ⁓ I think, I think Jason, ⁓ sorry. ⁓ not many. So I've got, ⁓ I've got my red,
Lane Kennedy (24:00)
So how many peptides are you on a week?
BT (24:08)
My terse. ⁓
I think that's, well, we got, yeah, no, well, no, I kind of, because I had that all batched in with my SS 31 and I'm kind of in a break right now. Of course, I've got my, from a hormone optimization standpoint, I've got my TRT three days a week. I'm doing my HDH, one and a half to two I use ⁓ five to six nights a week. So.
Jason Kidman (24:16)
Five amino, five amino.
Lane Kennedy (24:27)
That's good.
BT (24:42)
Oh no, then I also and then I so what I'm Jason coached me up on on my if a more than so my IPA I'm doing an hour at night before I go to bed. I'll do some if a and then I'll and I'll finish off before I go to bed with my HGH after after that. So I guess I'm right now I'm just I'm just kind of like on a pot. I'm doing three three peptides and then other than my my TRT.
Lane Kennedy (25:00)
Nice.
And that's great, right? Right now. That's the season that you're in right now. And that could change. Maybe at the beginning of the year, you want to start doing some brain stuff again, right? Or maybe like, again, looking at your blueprint, looking at your genes, right? Maybe we want to start working on some cholesterol stuff or the bone stuff. I think the cholesterol comes first though. Just saying heart vascular.
BT (25:25)
Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (25:36)
Right? So I love this kind of idea that we don't have to do it all at once. Right? It's too much. We just take it and look, well, it's just too much. It literally, we can, we can do it all at once, but I think Brian's in the stage now where he's reached this place in his life where he's feeling good. He's able to run. And by the way, your genes as you know,
Jason Kidman (25:44)
We can do it.
BT (25:45)
you
Jason Kidman (25:47)
I'm just kidding.
Lane Kennedy (26:01)
that is a part of your structure, right? You have incredible capacity for VO2 max. can run, you can be a runner. So use that to your benefit when you're out in the world and enjoying your time. But what I'm trying to get across here is that we don't have to throw everything at once. We can go in phases. That's what I think I want people to hear is that bite sizes, baby steps.
BT (26:28)
Well,
I think it also comes down to budget. everybody, it's not this whole journey I'm on right now, it's expensive. But it doesn't, I think that everybody can address their health being super budget conscious in bite-sized things that can make dramatic effects. And so you don't have to do it all at one time. But I think like what you're saying, Lane, is amazing to where I just feel so blessed because
Lane Kennedy (26:44)
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
BT (26:58)
You guys work together. You're kind of like, you know, you're my team. You guys can kind of collaborate back and forth a little bit, a couple of emails or texts or whatever about Brian Trenary about like this or that, that that's you stay in your lane. No pun intended. the Jason, know, Jason stays in his lane, but yet you collaborate together. And, and, I feel like I'm in good hands and I've got my functional health, you know, ⁓ coach too, to where it's just, it's fantastic. So yeah, I agree with you.
Lane Kennedy (27:02)
Mm.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
BT (27:28)
chunk it out, stick it into a budget and go.
Lane Kennedy (27:29)
Yeah, chunk it out.
Jason Kidman (27:32)
And I think I had to throw that in there because I think the whole underpinning of how we came up with the idea behind this podcast is Lane's simplicity of, let's look at your genetics. Let's look at, know, okay, sunlight's good for you. Be out in the sun, be out in the sun early and, you know, go be barefoot and eat your blueberries. You know, I love my blueberries and avoid
avoid your high histamine foods for these reasons XYZ. And then I was, of course, being extreme saying, no, we can do all that through these 18 things. But no, ⁓ that's what's awesome. Brian's been really fun to work with. And he's challenged me on something. now, Brian, I haven't told you, but there's another
Lane Kennedy (28:18)
I just think...
Jason Kidman (28:30)
I might have two other people that are interested in this too, but in a 12 month protocol that could actually address exactly what we're talking about here. So he's going to be able to adopt the genetic lifestyle that you're going to be working with him on. then I'll be working with him to build a protocol for 12 months that will be simpler, you know, based on a quarterly basis. Okay. What's our underlying?
Lane Kennedy (28:34)
Hmm.
Jason Kidman (28:59)
one or two things that we might be focused on throughout the year. For most people, it's gonna be the physique or fitness and mitochondria health.
Lane Kennedy (29:05)
Right, but for
Brian, it's methylation, right? Methylation, so mitochondria health. Like he always has to be working on that. And then you keep going.
Jason Kidman (29:10)
Hmm.
Yeah, yeah. And then every quarter, it'll be just, we'll focus on one thing every quarter. obviously, the second quarter should probably be, actually, no, the third quarter would be immunity, you know, when the grandkids are going back to school and you're visiting them and stuff. But it's just simple. It's so simple when you just break it down like in bite-sized pieces.
Lane Kennedy (29:19)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
BT (29:39)
Well, want to have the calendar broken. Well, I'm going to Hawaii the last few days of February for 10 days or whatever. So I want to be looking really good in my swimsuit. Not that I don't want to be looking good all the time, but it's just kind fun to plug stuff like that in. mean, that's important to me. So plug it into my calendar. But where that really came into too is the.
I go down the rabbit hole and I'm always, and that's, also want to say this is for anybody that listens to this podcast or this show. It's so much fun to have Lane and Jason available to like text or what, cause Lane's got years of experience with peptides too, going through her own health issues and say, you know what? I need to lay off all this crap for, that's not crap, excuse me, but I'm going to lay off all the stuff for a while. I'm just gonna let my body kind of heal. I'm just going to focus on food and whatever.
Jason Kidman (30:27)
Ha ha ha ha ha.
BT (30:34)
And so I know that I can go to Lane and say, Hey, you know what? This is what's going on. You know, what do you think about this? And I'm going to get it by, get, get a good vice there. The separate from Jason, even though Jason's my peptide coach, but then I also can go to Jason about anything that has to do with, I, I go in down the rabbit hole and I like read and see all kinds of other cool stuff that's out there. I'm not going to do it unless I run up by Jason cause Jason's my coach. But yet, but I still Jason's open minded to.
me asking me sometimes there a of stupid questions or whatever but I've got what about if I do this or what if I do do that but where this is leading me is that I'm the kind of personality to where I want to do this then I want to do that and then it's just like next thing I know, look at my credit card statement or my personal P &Ls like what the hell's going on here in terms of how much money I spent you know so it's just like I need to slow down I need to have Brian Trenary's P &L
budget for the year. This is what we're going to do. This is what we're going to attack and it's going to be 8 grand or 12 grand or 100 grand. I don't care what the numbers or what you can afford, but it is you know, it's just whatever you're to do. It's already put into your budget and your P &L and then you can back and then you can because you everybody should have their own personal P &L. Even if you're a W2 employee, hopefully you don't even if you don't run a business, you should have your own budget for the next year. So you're ready to go for your goals and whatever so.
That's kind of where that came from, so that people can kind of think that way.
Lane Kennedy (32:02)
I think that's a really
good point, Brian. It's completely valid in knowing what your limits are. Knowing for this, it's either a monthly limit, like when I'm hacking myself and I'm going all in, I know that I have a $1,200 budget a month. That's it. That's what it is. And that's from now until I say it's going to be different. But everybody's budget is going to be different. Some people it's only, you
BT (32:31)
Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (32:32)
$200 and that's
BT (32:33)
Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (32:34)
okay. It's like whatever it is understanding that that $200 is for my long-term health, right? This beautiful, uh, everyday longevity that we're all kind of chasing. It's, it's worth it. It's you have to invest in your health some way, some shape, some form and going into it blindly. You can get, you can get hurt.
BT (32:58)
Yeah, it's
overwhelming. It's overwhelming because you go onto full scripts or whatever and it's just like, well, this NEC, it's $45. ⁓ that's 45 bucks. That's no big deal. then this is 60. Then that's like, it's just like, jeez, next thing I know, it's just like full script. I'm getting bombed with all this stuff and it's like, wow.
Lane Kennedy (33:04)
Yeah.
And then you waste your money and then you waste your time.
Jason Kidman (33:19)
you
Lane Kennedy (33:19)
Right. it's, and it's not necessary, right? So that's why I think, you know, going to somebody like Jason or myself and somebody who's going to listen and understand, you know, what, what somebody's coming to us for, what are the goals? And then they're not, you know, spending money. That's not necessary or getting peptides that aren't necessary. Like I don't give everybody MOTC. Like forget it. Not everybody needs it.
BT (33:23)
Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (33:47)
And just because you're going to Hawaii, I'm just going to say this now in your head, so you have it locked in, know, start Melanotan 1, you know, halfway through January, right? So you start to get that immune system up.
BT (33:57)
I love that stuff. I had the best pan this year.
⁓ this was crazy. I can't believe how that stuff works.
Lane Kennedy (34:04)
Well, it works and it's so good for your immune, right? Cause you're going to be going through airports and right. just again, okay, I need to order that now or, you know, have it in your stock. That's all I'm saying.
BT (34:06)
Yeah.
I never, I
didn't ever take it because I felt it was good for me. It's like how I looked. ⁓
Jason Kidman (34:17)
you
Lane Kennedy (34:17)
my God, it's a double
win. It's a double whammy though. That's the beauty of that peptide. Yeah.
Jason Kidman (34:21)
But again, side benefits, there's some
world renowned physicians that are using melanotan in their practice for immune benefits, which is crazy. Yeah.
BT (34:31)
Yeah, no, I know. But to
take it and then be inside. if you take it and you get outside in the sun, you better be prepared if you're because my wife's like, man, you're looking like you go to the tanning bed all the time. It's just like, you know, it looks that's that's like too much. So I think it was pretty cool. Totally. Yeah.
Jason Kidman (34:48)
Hahaha.
Lane Kennedy (34:51)
It's awesome.
Jason Kidman (34:53)
Hey, you don't have to worry about sunscreen, right?
Lane Kennedy (34:56)
Yeah.
Brian, I just want to say thank you so much for coming on the show with us and hanging out with us and sharing your experience. Just always being ready to roll. Yeah.
Jason Kidman (34:58)
Well, Brian.
BT (35:04)
Yeah, that's good.
Jason Kidman (35:08)
And we'll
add to our show notes is your website, but tell us really quickly about what you do and spread the so we can spread the love of Brian Trenary.
BT (35:20)
⁓ no, I don't. I don't really try to do a whole lot anymore. I just try to like. Yeah, no, we're we just we do a little tax mitigation work and and help people. You know, with with some investments, but I, you know, I'm kind of basically retired anymore, so that's I'm not I'm not not looking for looking.
Jason Kidman (35:25)
⁓ I get it. Trying to be humble.
BT (35:50)
looking for any new business or anything like that. I mean, I just like, I'm into my grandkids, I'm into working out, eating right, staying healthy and being the best version of myself to serve other people. And that's kind of what I'm all about.
Jason Kidman (36:05)
and a vision you have of something you might want to do in the next five years, the brick and mortar.
BT (36:12)
Team up with
you guys. I think that I've got to have a vision for a boutique mindfulness facility where we have a really regimented program. Because my days always start out with 15 minutes of prayer and meditation.
You know, I get into playability, you know, the strength, the strength training, it comes into play, the steady state cardio. And I just feel like there's a huge, huge population out of there of people that are my age, you know, call it 50, whatever, and over. Once you go through that fun part of life and raising kids and working, not that you don't, I I'm gonna be working at some capacity until the day I stop breathing, I think, hopefully, but.
I think that we all need to be dedicating a minimum of 10 % of a 24 hour clock into health and wellness. But I don't think that, I think a lot of us need to go to a place to where there's a structured program to where you can go in, you check in and you have your guys's expertise where we we're working on all the peptides and those kinds of things. But there's also a structured way to where you go to the right kind of place to get in your meditation and to get into your proper strength training and to get into your steady state cardio.
All that different stuff, we were held accountable and ⁓ it's, know, that kind of atmosphere. So I'm working on it. That's just a rough outline.
Jason Kidman (37:49)
Yeah,
just a really neat idea right now that, but I think where it comes from, you know, comes from the heart and it comes from the, where you've been too, like the, from a place of pain and you know, your body wasn't in its best shape. And I just want to say thank you. Thanks for being here. It's been fantastic. Super, super inspirational to me.
BT (38:16)
Yeah, love you guys. Appreciate all you doing.
Cool, all right. Happy to be part of the team and just, boy, tell you what, if anybody, if everybody just just jump on board and follow your guys' direction, they'll be better for it. So, all right, we'll see you soon. Talk to you tomorrow. right.
Lane Kennedy (38:21)
Super, thanks so much for.
Jason Kidman (38:35)
All right, and
where will they find us, Lane?
Lane Kennedy (38:36)
Thanks, Brian.
You're gonna find more conversations like this, yeah, in the Omega community. Come join us. We'd love to have you. Thanks for hanging out with us. We know there are plenty of people that you can listen to and we value that you're listening to us and trust us. Jason, till next time.
Jason Kidman (38:46)
All right.
Thanks, Lane. Thanks, Brian. Love you all.
Lane Kennedy (38:57)
Bye.
BT (38:58)
All bye bye.