1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,840 And then 10 minutes later, my front door opens and two children run 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,880 in screaming. Now, mind you, my house has been silent 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,120 for 11 days. I nearly had a heart attack and died. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,480 So I got to spend mother's day cleaning up vomit and 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,280 running ginger ale to any number of people. But yeah, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,960 I was just looking around going, this is motherhood. This is 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:23,680 motherhood. 8 00:00:27,620 --> 00:00:30,900 All right, here we go. I'm going to pretend I'm pushing record because that feels 9 00:00:30,900 --> 00:00:33,940 right. Okay, I'm pressing record. Boop. 10 00:00:34,580 --> 00:00:38,260 Hi, everybody, I'm Lauren Howard. Welcome to Different 11 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:42,219 Not Broken, which is our podcast on exactly that. 12 00:00:42,219 --> 00:00:45,580 That there are a lot of people in this world walking around feeling broken. And 13 00:00:45,580 --> 00:00:47,860 the reality is you're just different. And that's fine. 14 00:00:50,340 --> 00:00:53,740 Kids were gone for a long time, like very unexpectedly. They were with my husband. 15 00:00:53,740 --> 00:00:57,550 They weren't kidnapped, thankfully, but I was like 90% sure he 16 00:00:57,550 --> 00:00:59,710 was going to bring them back. He was going to bring them back. But they 17 00:00:59,710 --> 00:01:03,350 went up to our house up north that is still under 18 00:01:03,350 --> 00:01:06,910 construction after two years. Dear Lord. There actually is progress 19 00:01:06,910 --> 00:01:10,630 happening. There are floors in multiple areas. 20 00:01:10,710 --> 00:01:14,430 That is such a wild success, you 21 00:01:14,430 --> 00:01:17,910 have no idea. Anyway, so they were supposed to go for three days. 22 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:22,070 In typical Howard fashion. We booked tickets there, we never booked tickets back. 23 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:24,830 I wasn't able to go with them when they wanted to go. My husband had 24 00:01:24,830 --> 00:01:28,650 to meet the contractor so they couldn't postpone. So it was just like, 25 00:01:28,650 --> 00:01:30,810 well, I guess I'm gonna be on my own for a couple of days. Just 26 00:01:30,810 --> 00:01:33,970 me and the dog. So it was supposed to be three days. Then they both 27 00:01:33,970 --> 00:01:37,530 got sick. Both kids got this like creeping crud upper 28 00:01:37,530 --> 00:01:40,850 respiratory virus that was like relentless. 29 00:01:41,330 --> 00:01:43,650 And I think they got it from my mother in law cause she had something 30 00:01:43,650 --> 00:01:47,330 similar before and it was just a virus, 31 00:01:47,490 --> 00:01:51,250 but it was nasty. And it gets to a point like when you 32 00:01:51,250 --> 00:01:54,370 get a virus and you get to like day five and you're not feeling better, 33 00:01:54,450 --> 00:01:58,160 that feels excessive. It's all awful. But when you get to day 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,680 five, you're like, what the heck? Immune system, what is going on? 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,040 And then we were getting to like day eight and nine and she was still 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,680 down for the count. But they didn't see her in 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,239 person until like literally day 10 or day 38 00:02:12,239 --> 00:02:15,760 11. So we just kind of thought that after 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,680 all that time it would be fine. Her fever was gone, her cough 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,360 was better, she was on medication. Anyway, like three days later, 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,100 they come down with the upper respiratory infection of 42 00:02:27,100 --> 00:02:30,220 everybody's nightmares. And he had so much stuff that he had to do and he 43 00:02:30,220 --> 00:02:32,820 was by Himself, so he had to take them with. So these, like, poor kids 44 00:02:32,820 --> 00:02:36,420 are like, driving around New Hampshire wearing masks, and people think they're still Covid 45 00:02:36,420 --> 00:02:39,900 shut ins, which is fine, but it was just a bizarre 46 00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:42,340 setup. So they were supposed to be gone for three days. They were gone for 47 00:02:42,340 --> 00:02:45,340 like four days. And then I talked to my husband and he was like, well, 48 00:02:45,340 --> 00:02:49,140 there's more stuff we have to do. So 11 days later, I finally get 49 00:02:49,140 --> 00:02:52,980 a return date for them, which is two days after. So they were supposed 50 00:02:52,980 --> 00:02:55,820 to come back on Saturday. It was a little bit weird because usually when he 51 00:02:55,820 --> 00:02:59,260 books a flight, he immediately puts it on my calendar because he knows I will 52 00:02:59,260 --> 00:03:02,820 not remember when it is or what airline it is unless it's on my calendar. 53 00:03:02,820 --> 00:03:05,500 And he didn't. And I just didn't think about it. I was slammed. It was 54 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:09,100 the week we closed on the sale of the Practice. I was exhausted, my brain 55 00:03:09,100 --> 00:03:12,380 was super soup, and so I just didn't think about it. And then I was 56 00:03:12,380 --> 00:03:15,180 trying to figure out how I could plan out my day on Saturday. And I 57 00:03:15,180 --> 00:03:18,260 texted him and I was like, when is your flight getting in? And he didn't 58 00:03:18,260 --> 00:03:21,700 answer me, and I texted him again, and I think I called him a fart 59 00:03:21,700 --> 00:03:25,420 hole and said, when is your plane coming in? 60 00:03:25,900 --> 00:03:29,260 And he said, oh, it's 7:10 tomorrow on 61 00:03:29,260 --> 00:03:32,900 Southwest. And I was like, okay, great. And then 10 minutes 62 00:03:32,900 --> 00:03:36,700 later, my front door opens and two children run in screaming. Now, 63 00:03:36,700 --> 00:03:40,540 mind you, my house has been silent for 11 days. 64 00:03:40,860 --> 00:03:44,220 I nearly had a heart attack and died. I was like, 65 00:03:44,770 --> 00:03:47,930 what is happening? Who's in my house? Am I being robbed by elves? I don't 66 00:03:47,930 --> 00:03:51,690 understand what's happening. And then I reoriented myself and 67 00:03:51,690 --> 00:03:55,090 realized it was my children. And my husband thought it was funny to just 68 00:03:55,330 --> 00:03:59,050 not tell me they were coming back and jump into my office to 69 00:03:59,050 --> 00:04:02,650 surprise me. Which was delightful, except for the whole almost 70 00:04:02,650 --> 00:04:06,290 dying thing, because he nearly gave me a heart attack. So this was Friday. 71 00:04:06,290 --> 00:04:09,930 They came back. Mother's Day was that Sunday. And the kids come in. Of course 72 00:04:09,930 --> 00:04:13,610 I'm excited to see them, and I'm squeezing them and giving them all the kisses. 73 00:04:14,090 --> 00:04:17,850 And I'm so excited that they're back and they're all up in my face, 74 00:04:17,850 --> 00:04:21,650 and I'm all up in their face. And my youngest had a weird 75 00:04:21,650 --> 00:04:25,450 stomach thing for a couple days before, but she seemed different than 76 00:04:25,450 --> 00:04:29,050 the thing they had before. But my husband said she was better as of that 77 00:04:29,050 --> 00:04:32,410 morning, no problems. So we just thought it was food poisoning or something. 78 00:04:32,650 --> 00:04:35,770 And she seemed fine. She Ate a bunch of food. She was fine. And so 79 00:04:35,770 --> 00:04:39,280 we're just like, well, it must have been food poisoning and not contagious. And then 80 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:42,920 a couple hours later, my oldest just starts 81 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,640 puking everywhere. And it was like, food poisoning isn't 82 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,320 contagious. So she starts getting sick everywhere. And then 83 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,800 my youngest, who had been okay for, like, 48 hours, 84 00:04:54,119 --> 00:04:57,840 starts getting sick again. And, like, we're very quickly running out of 85 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:59,320 towels. There are no supplies. 86 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,850 And so my husband and I are handling it. He basically put the kids together. 87 00:05:08,090 --> 00:05:11,450 We put them on a saltine diet and 88 00:05:11,770 --> 00:05:15,250 made them slam Pedialyte because it was like, they couldn't eat 89 00:05:15,250 --> 00:05:18,570 anything. Like, as soon as they ate, it was just, like, it was a mess. 90 00:05:18,570 --> 00:05:21,690 So we get through the first night, and I'm like, I don't know what this 91 00:05:21,690 --> 00:05:25,450 stuff is, because she was good for two days, and now she's sick again. 92 00:05:25,450 --> 00:05:28,970 And now my oldest has it. This is chaotic. 93 00:05:29,290 --> 00:05:32,180 My husband fell asleep on the couch with the kids. The next morning, 94 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:36,740 he walks into our room and says, I need your help. 95 00:05:37,060 --> 00:05:40,820 And he has the very distinct look of the 96 00:05:40,820 --> 00:05:44,260 man flu on his face. And I was like, why? 97 00:05:44,980 --> 00:05:48,500 And he was like, I just threw up everywhere. I was like, oh. 98 00:05:49,060 --> 00:05:52,500 Oh, super fun. So you all brought it home to me. I'm so 99 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:56,140 excited. Awesome. So I got to 100 00:05:56,140 --> 00:05:59,800 spend Mother's Day cleaning up vomit and running ginger 101 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,560 ale to any number of people. And I'm looking around going, this 102 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,080 is the Mother's Dayest. Mother's Day of any Mother's Day. This is exactly what 103 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,760 happens on Mother's Day. And my youngest comes up to me and she 104 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,360 says, mom, we were supposed to go Mother's Day shopping for you, and we 105 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,120 couldn't because we're puking. And I was like, that is accurate, 106 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,640 and that is totally fine. These things happen. It is okay. You are not in 107 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,980 trouble. I really don't care. There was no world where 108 00:06:25,780 --> 00:06:29,580 my day would have been greatly impacted by whatever. So he did have 109 00:06:29,580 --> 00:06:33,100 his mom arrange some stuff for me, like flowers. And then I might have gotten 110 00:06:33,100 --> 00:06:36,660 a emergency delivery from Sephora of things I absolutely 111 00:06:37,060 --> 00:06:40,900 needed for myself to save a little bit of the day. 112 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:44,260 But, yeah, I was just looking around going, this is motherhood. 113 00:06:44,500 --> 00:06:48,220 This is motherhood. By the way, this day is supposed to be for 114 00:06:48,220 --> 00:06:51,830 you. You're supposed to relax and have people take care of 115 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:55,630 you, but instead, they're going to vomit on you. That's just got to be fine. 116 00:06:56,190 --> 00:06:59,550 And so instead, I got to 117 00:06:59,950 --> 00:07:03,550 risk it all laying in bed with my kids, knowing that at Any minute, 118 00:07:03,790 --> 00:07:06,830 whatever this crud is is going to hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm 119 00:07:06,830 --> 00:07:10,590 like, power slamming Zofran. Like, I called one of our 120 00:07:10,590 --> 00:07:14,350 nurse practitioners, and I was like, I can't make the vomit stop. I need 121 00:07:14,350 --> 00:07:18,030 Zofran. So she called it in. I went and grabbed it at one of the 122 00:07:18,030 --> 00:07:21,710 pharmacies and brought it back home. I'm giving it to the kids. And 123 00:07:21,710 --> 00:07:25,470 then Sunday late, and then yesterday also, my 124 00:07:25,470 --> 00:07:29,270 stomach just started feeling, like, a little weak. Like, I was definitely not hungry. 125 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:32,830 I definitely didn't want to eat anything. Nothing sounded good. And also, 126 00:07:33,070 --> 00:07:36,830 it was like, this doesn't exactly feel right. And I 127 00:07:36,830 --> 00:07:40,470 was like, somebody give me a Zofran. We're not doing this. No, no. I 128 00:07:40,470 --> 00:07:44,230 will prophylactically Zofran myself into my grave 129 00:07:44,710 --> 00:07:48,230 rather than go through what these people are going through full stop. 130 00:07:48,470 --> 00:07:50,750 So I texted her after a day, and I was like, you might have to 131 00:07:50,750 --> 00:07:53,430 send more. And she goes, did you use it up already? And I was like, 132 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:57,350 no, but I plan to, because I'm not doing it. I have stuff to do. 133 00:07:57,670 --> 00:08:01,110 I'm stubborn. I'm going to avoid this thing by just 134 00:08:01,270 --> 00:08:04,870 sheer force of will. Anyway, we still have plenty of Zofran because I 135 00:08:04,870 --> 00:08:08,590 haven't actually taken the whole bottle yet, but it dissolves, so I 136 00:08:08,590 --> 00:08:08,870 could. 137 00:08:14,630 --> 00:08:18,350 My poor oldest. The first night, she couldn't 138 00:08:18,350 --> 00:08:22,070 keep down the Zofran, and every time I put it in her mouth, she would 139 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:25,910 just throw it up. She just was so sensitive. And so I 140 00:08:25,910 --> 00:08:29,590 texted one of our nurse practitioners, and I was like, oh, yay, we have norovirus 141 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:33,510 so bad that we can't keep down the Zofran. And she goes, do 142 00:08:33,510 --> 00:08:37,319 you want me to send in some Phenergan suppositories? I guess that's a 143 00:08:37,319 --> 00:08:40,719 thing they do for kids. I looked at my oldest and had her read it, 144 00:08:40,719 --> 00:08:44,559 and I said, do you want her to do this? And she goes, what's a 145 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,279 suppository? And I told her, and she goes, I'll keep it down. 146 00:08:48,519 --> 00:08:51,879 And she's like, nope, we're not doing that at all ever. Nope. 147 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,559 So anyway, they all appear to be somewhat better. 148 00:08:56,439 --> 00:09:00,199 Like, last night, they all seem to get hit by 149 00:09:00,199 --> 00:09:03,999 it again. It comes in waves. It's very weird. And it doesn't seem dependent on, 150 00:09:03,999 --> 00:09:07,320 like, the kind of stuff they eat. All of a sudden, they go from being 151 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,720 fine to not. It was full man flu, which means 152 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,640 my husband was on the couch unable to put his own socks on, 153 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,920 Needed help with everything. I'm dying. Everything I'M dying. Yeah, okay, 154 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,720 sure you are. And then yesterday I see him 155 00:09:22,799 --> 00:09:26,280 run downstairs and grab something and do something 156 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,920 deliberately annoying. And I was like, oh, good news, he feels better. And also bad 157 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,760 news. He feels better because now he's annoying the kids again. Awesome. 158 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,560 That's like a true sign that he feels better. He's irritating the kid. Then 159 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:40,680 he was like, I'm starving. I need to get food. And I was like, maybe 160 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:43,640 you're starving because you haven't eaten in several days. But still, can we, like, take 161 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,000 it easy? So of course he goes to a fast food restaurant and I think 162 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,640 he's going to get like a cheeseburger or something, which is fine. Like, whatever. I 163 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,120 mean, it's not fine. He's definitely going to puke it up. But, like, I thought 164 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,600 he was going to get a cheeseburger. He had like a shrimp and 165 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,080 catfish basket. I was like, if you know that you're going to 166 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,380 vomit something up, that's what you pick. Really? 167 00:10:04,940 --> 00:10:08,580 He was like, I just was hungry and it sounded good. I'm like, you have 168 00:10:08,580 --> 00:10:12,340 to think about the impact, man. So then last night, he was just frickin 169 00:10:12,340 --> 00:10:15,900 miserable. He was like, the reflux is so bad. And I was like, 170 00:10:16,540 --> 00:10:19,740 maybe it's because you ate a basket of 171 00:10:20,060 --> 00:10:23,700 deep fried. We don't even know what, like, they said it's 172 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:27,180 shrimp. Do we know that? Did you test it? Because I didn't. 173 00:10:27,340 --> 00:10:31,020 And you ate French fries. Why would you eat French fries? Anyway, 174 00:10:31,180 --> 00:10:34,460 So I would like to say he learned his lesson. He did not. There is 175 00:10:34,460 --> 00:10:38,180 no way that lesson is going to stick with him whatsoever. But that was 176 00:10:38,180 --> 00:10:42,020 my Mother's Day was cleaning up piles of vomit and 177 00:10:42,020 --> 00:10:45,820 throwing out all of the linens in our house, which we now get to replace, 178 00:10:46,620 --> 00:10:50,300 and figuring out new and creative ways to give my 179 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:53,820 children targets to hit so that they don't 180 00:10:54,230 --> 00:10:56,950 get bodily fluids on the furniture. Happy Mother's Day. 181 00:10:59,670 --> 00:11:03,430 And now we'll go to Alison, who has this week's 182 00:11:03,430 --> 00:11:06,870 small talk. We have a small talk from 183 00:11:06,950 --> 00:11:10,750 Tammy in Montana. She says, hi there. I changed careers 184 00:11:10,750 --> 00:11:14,590 at 29, left a perfectly stable accounting job to 185 00:11:14,590 --> 00:11:17,990 become a florist. My mom has referred to this as 186 00:11:18,390 --> 00:11:21,750 my phase ever since. Even as my business grew, 187 00:11:21,990 --> 00:11:25,750 even as I hired staff, even as I genuinely love what I do every 188 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:29,510 single day. It's not that she's cruel. She's just waiting 189 00:11:29,510 --> 00:11:32,950 for me to come back to something that looks like what she imagined for me. 190 00:11:33,270 --> 00:11:36,790 And every time she asks, so, what's next? At family 191 00:11:36,790 --> 00:11:40,390 dinners, I feel 14 years old. Again, I've made peace with the choice. 192 00:11:40,870 --> 00:11:44,430 I haven't made peace with her response to the choice. How do you stop 193 00:11:44,430 --> 00:11:48,230 needing someone to approve of a decision you already know was 194 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:51,930 right? Why do you need her to approve of it? Like, 195 00:11:52,170 --> 00:11:54,850 what do you get out of that? Is there like a gift basket or a 196 00:11:54,850 --> 00:11:58,610 medal? I don't think any of those things happen. I think you need 197 00:11:58,610 --> 00:12:02,090 to investigate why it bothers you that she has not gotten on board with it. 198 00:12:02,090 --> 00:12:05,130 It sounds to me like you're a successful business owner and it doesn't matter what 199 00:12:05,130 --> 00:12:08,690 industry that's in. I have a friend who did that. She was an 200 00:12:08,690 --> 00:12:12,330 attorney and she left her high paying job and started 201 00:12:12,330 --> 00:12:16,170 a flower shop. And she actually ended up being the person who did the flowers 202 00:12:16,170 --> 00:12:19,940 at my wedding. That's how I met her. We're still friends 15 203 00:12:19,940 --> 00:12:23,420 years later. She was a really good business owner 204 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:27,180 because she had this very, very complex background 205 00:12:27,660 --> 00:12:30,700 in all sorts of things that intersected with business. 206 00:12:31,420 --> 00:12:34,700 Her law degree arguably made her a better florist 207 00:12:35,580 --> 00:12:39,420 because she understood business structure, she understood mergers and acquisitions, she 208 00:12:39,420 --> 00:12:42,980 understood what it looks like to expand, what it looks like to 209 00:12:42,980 --> 00:12:46,780 hire. She understood employment law. She understood all of these little different things 210 00:12:47,630 --> 00:12:51,150 that were vital to running a business. I think part of it is 211 00:12:51,230 --> 00:12:54,030 setting the boundary. I don't think you need to get okay with it. I think 212 00:12:54,030 --> 00:12:57,470 your mom needs to close her mouth. It bothers you 213 00:12:57,550 --> 00:13:01,310 because she's being rude. Whether she's being funny about it or not, 214 00:13:01,630 --> 00:13:04,830 she's saying something that bothers you and she's doing it repeatedly. 215 00:13:05,550 --> 00:13:08,390 So instead of trying to figure out how to deal with it so it doesn't 216 00:13:08,390 --> 00:13:12,150 bother you, tell her to stop saying it. Hey, 217 00:13:12,150 --> 00:13:15,630 I'm a successful business owner. I've hired staff, I've grown the business, 218 00:13:15,710 --> 00:13:19,130 we make good money, I'm paying my bills, I don't need 219 00:13:19,130 --> 00:13:22,130 anything from you. I'm very happy with where I am in life. 220 00:13:22,850 --> 00:13:26,650 Stop saying that. Stop saying that. Even if I plan to change my 221 00:13:26,650 --> 00:13:29,650 career five more times, Stop saying that. It's dismissive to me. 222 00:13:30,370 --> 00:13:33,930 It's dismissive to my choices and the hard work that I put in. It doesn't 223 00:13:33,930 --> 00:13:37,770 matter if you plan to close the flower shop and become a mermaid. You 224 00:13:37,770 --> 00:13:41,570 get to be a mermaid then. Awesome. And as a 225 00:13:41,570 --> 00:13:45,290 mom, she's allowed to be protective, she's allowed to be concerned. She's allowed to 226 00:13:45,290 --> 00:13:48,710 make sure that you're okay, that you're not making decisions for reasons that are 227 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:52,510 harmful or detrimental to you. But at some point, she's allowed to just shut 228 00:13:52,510 --> 00:13:55,870 up and let you make your decisions. So I don't think it's about you 229 00:13:56,350 --> 00:13:58,990 getting used to her saying it, because if you were going to do that, you 230 00:13:58,990 --> 00:14:01,950 would have already done it. It sounds like she's been doing it a long time. 231 00:14:01,950 --> 00:14:05,190 It's about setting the boundary with her and saying, stop doing this. It makes me 232 00:14:05,190 --> 00:14:08,710 feel like you are being judgmental and passive aggressive toward me and I don't like 233 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:12,470 it. Stop doing it. And that's a completely reasonable thing 234 00:14:12,470 --> 00:14:16,110 to ask. It doesn't matter what her intention is. It doesn't matter that she's not 235 00:14:16,110 --> 00:14:19,720 trying to be mean or that she's not, you know, she's not trying to. 236 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Whatever. Tell her to stop. It doesn't. Her 237 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,840 intention doesn't matter. If it makes you feel otherwise, tell her to 238 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,240 stop. It's not a phase. Emo was a phase. 239 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,920 This is flowers. Flowers are always in style. 240 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,960 Thanks for being here, guys. Have a good day. Love you. Mean it. 241 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,880 That was a good reference. I'm proud I got that in there.