Welcome to
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User Friendly 2.0 with host Bill Sikkens,
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technology architect.
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And this is User Friendly 2.0.
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As always I am your host Bill Sikkens.
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And joining me
my co-host Gretchen and Bill.
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Welcome to this week's show.
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Hello there. Hello.
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So you know, listener feedback I'm now
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getting AI feedback,
somewhat unsolicited in some cases.
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And I was told that
I need to be more dramatic in my openings,
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but I don't think I'm going to go there.
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I know, I'm not sure what you would need
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to do to be more dramatic.
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Well, I do, and I'm sure
we're going to get comments on this.
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But, you know,
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my first name is William, but overacting
my last name is not Shatner.
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So, anyway, yeah,
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and if you want to come up
and if you want to
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come on the show, please,
do I have to show up?
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I don't know what you think.
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I'm a huge Star Trek fan, and I'm
in a Shatner fan, so, we can all, take a.
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Just relax. Everything's going to be okay.
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So hold it in your.
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Oh my goodness.
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Well, let's go ahead and jump in.
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What do we have in the news this week?
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All right.
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And the news is is Alexa suffering
from multiple personality disorder?
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Yeah.
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So that's an interesting question.
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And it's one
that's starting to circle around.
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So basically, what's going on here
is and I'm going to avoid the name.
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So I'm not activating everybody's
smart speakers every five seconds.
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Amazon is
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upgrading the voice assistants
to be more conversational.
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This is what's known as Alexa Plus.
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And it's something
that's been rolling out,
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for the last, oh, almost a year now.
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And it's in beta.
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You can get it with the appropriate
devices, echo devices and a subscription,
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which is kind of weird because it's
either free with your Amazon Prime
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subscription, which is, you know, nine
bucks a month or 12 bucks or whatever,
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or you can get it separate
just by itself for 20 bucks a month.
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So I think they're pushing
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on the Prime subscription or somebody
just ordered you mouth in any event,
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this is
rolling out and replacing the old version.
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And it's been an interesting thing
because not
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all echo devices
support the new assistant.
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So if you have some really old devices,
I have a tower.
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Yeah.
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The tower would be one of,
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the original echo
screens, show screens and stuff like that.
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So anyway, so what's happening?
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They're trying to build this in
and they're going forward with I.
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The more engagement
you can have with the AI assistant.
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And this isn't just Amazon,
the more time you will spend with it.
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So doing that and including certain
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personality is what's driving this.
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And it does create more
natural conversations, more,
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you know, accessibility.
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If you have a kids mode,
you can have family
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friendly customization and so on.
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But it is interesting.
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I've been trying out the new voice,
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so I ended up
and I need to sit down and kind of,
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streamline this a little bit.
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But right now, depending on which speaker
answers, you get a different personality.
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Which is a little weird.
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And, by default,
I believe it is for female and or male.
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Yeah. Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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And, Bill,
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you were talking about switching over
on one of yours to Scotland or something.
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No, I that was for an iPhone
that was switched to Irish.
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So, you know, I'm sure there's
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other things like that out there
or there will be,
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if they can figure out,
they can help sell it.
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There certainly will be.
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But at the end of the day,
it does take some getting used to,
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especially on an assistant.
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That's one of the first
and has been around for a long time,
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especially comparatively
to everything else.
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And all of a sudden
the voice is different.
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And not only that,
but the way the interaction
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is is a little bit different.
It takes some getting used to.
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Now, I have to say, in my own opinion,
I like it.
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I think they've done a nice job.
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It's almost like the original assistant's
daughter
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in a sense, or or others,
depending on who you talk to.
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So anyway, so it's
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not actually multiple personality
disorder.
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Is this, you know, lewd still,
but it is a situation
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where because there's more configuration
options and different things like that,
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and the way the responses are
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And the other thing I've noticed is
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Amazon is trying to address this,
I think a little bit
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because when you switch voices
it now comes on I'm voice so
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and so your zen assistant
or your business assistant here.
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That kind of a thing.
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So it is interesting to see where
that's going.
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But I'd love to hear feedback
from our listeners out there.
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Have you experienced this?
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I mean, pretty much all of us
use Amazon from time to time.
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I just curious to see what do you think
of it and have you run into problems?
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From zero
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debug allows code execution
to be a malicious web.
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Pages. Yeah.
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And this one is kind of being considered
an emergency situation.
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This actually was talked
about couple of days ago.
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So a lot of the automatic updates
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will already be on a point
that you're hearing this.
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But basically what it is is Chrome
has a situation where there was a bug,
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zero day bug, which means it's already out
there and was found afterwards.
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And it allows for certain websites
to be able to run code on your computer
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without you knowing about it or verifying
or securing anything.
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So what you want to do
is make sure that you update it.
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If you have automatic updates turned off,
you really need to do this one.
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And basically what you do
if you have to do it manually is click
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the three dots
and then it settings in about Chrome
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and it will tell you
if an update is available.
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And then you just click on it
and you want to make sure
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that, you're on version one, 45.0
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.7/6 32.75.
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Boy, that's easy, a nice mouthful.
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I remember when I was like version one
and version two I guess that's yeah, yeah.
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Now, anyway, check on that and go ahead
and update if you have automatic updates.
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It should have updated by now,
but it's still worth checking to make sure
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that it actually did.
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It's fine because
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this is one where literally the code
execution blocks were not functioning,
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and when it was found out about it,
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put a script on their website
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Which is a bad thing
for a lot of reasons. Yeah.
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I safety meets the war machine,
and I don't think we're talking Marvel.
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Yeah, I was wondering about that one.
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I heard about this too.
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And, No, it's not Marvel.
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And it's not science fiction either.
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So what they're talking about here
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is different companies and dealing with,
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what they want to do when it comes to AI.
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So, anthropic, if I'm saying that right.
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Became one of the first major AI companies
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cleared by the US government
for classified use.
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And that's all that includes
military applications.
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And it just kind of came out
what they're reconsidering
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their relationship with the company,
including a $200 million contract,
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because the safety conscious AI firm
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objected to participating
in certain deadly operations.
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So the so-called Department of War
may even designated
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as a supply chain risk
because it refuses to do this.
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like ethics and definitely
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with AI and the direction
that's going. This is a big deal.
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I know it isn't a new thing for companies
to want to do.
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This was back a long time ago.
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I was involved with a company
that was doing
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some of the very beginning of streaming
media, and this was in the late 2000.
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And one of the things with
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that is they did not want to use it
for the pornographic industry.
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A decision that, you know,
as far as I'm concerned was fine,
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but it also created some problems like
this and makes me think of the old VHS,
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Betamax or, you know, if you restrict
what you can do with the technology
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and somebody else comes out with one
that is not restricted,
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it will, definitely create a situation
where you're at a disadvantage.
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So $200 million contract.
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I mean, that's a lot of money.
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I bet.
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You know, every day
that goes by, not as much,
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but it's still a lot of money
at least at the time of recording.
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So yeah.
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Genitive medicine
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where blindness would
vanish is a possibility.
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So we and this is one thing I like.
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We get to talk about quality of life
improvements that technology brings.
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And the direction that this is going
is kind of
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very sci fi in some ways.
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I'll just put it like that.
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Things that ten years ago
you would have seen on Star Trek
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or Star Wars or whatever is now reality.
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And one of the things on
this is cybernetics
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and regenerative medicine
and other things.
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And one of the big things is,
is a lot of people suffer from sight loss.
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you have to wear glasses because you're
not going to 2020 vision anymore.
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It's things like molecular degeneration
and glaucoma and other things
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that actually take away your eyesight,
which takes away a good portion
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of your ability
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to appreciate and interact with the world
site is very important, obviously.
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I mean, I know I'm
preaching to the choir on that,
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but one of the things that goes along with
this is there's a lot of research
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going on on how to fix this possibility.
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And even as far back as 12 years ago,
there was a company
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that was doing an implant that basically
replaced your eye with a camera,
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and it was able to restore some sight.
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and would only be used
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because you would have to be totally blind
or it wouldn't be better for one night,
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and you would have to be compatible
and all the rest of this.
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Now that's forward to 2026.
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We're seeing that kind of technology
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being used in combination
on one side of cybernetics,
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replacing the mechanical components,
and on the other side,
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what this is talking about
with regenerative medicine,
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they can talk today
really regenerative medicine.
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That isn't that hard to say anyway,
where they're actually able
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to through stem cells
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and other things be able to,
as the headline says, regenerate the organ
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or the part of it that is no longer
working and restore sight,
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and in some cases,
as much as back to 2020, vision.
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So it is amazing to see
where this is going
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and obviously the quality of life
improvements that this creates
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is phenomenal.
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So I'm glad to see stuff like this
starting to actually be available.
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All right, how to sell your old TV
and get some money for it.
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Yeah. What's this about. Yeah. This okay.
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So this topic came in
from a lot of listener feedback.
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And we have been talking retro games
and stuff
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like that lately,
which is where this kind of boils down to.
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What this is referring to
is CRT televisions.
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So the big old heavy one
that was huge that,
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you know, was what you use before
high definition, that type of thing.
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So this isn't really referring
to flat screens.
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And unfortunately when they break,
it seems like you just throw them away.
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But at one time I remember this
not so long ago
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you couldn't get rid of the CRT fast
enough.
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In fact, they were charging money to
recycle them and all that kind of thing.
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Fast forward to now.
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There is a very niche community that's
growing that uses this kind of technology.
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Retro gaming is one of them,
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but in certain scientific areas
where their machinery is based on
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CRT technology, you're seeing it there
and nobody makes picture tubes anymore.
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At least.
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And if you please correct me
if I'm wrong, I'd love to find them.
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But as far as I've been able to research
the there is nobody
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that is building them anymore and nobody
that is rebuilding them anymore.
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So once the tube goes bad, that's it.
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And what's happening is they are starting
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to become harder and harder
to find good ones.
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Old CRT picture tube is a consumable item.
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It lasts for a certain number of hours
and then starts to go dim.
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Or if it's color, you know,
the gun will go out, that kind of thing.
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So they do have a lifespan.
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So another ten years to go by.
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These are going to even get rarer
and rarer.
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And it's causing a situation
where certain technologies cannot function
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with flat screen or modern, video
mainly because the CRT system
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is something that is instant and real
and the modern stuff is digital.
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So it's recreating the signal,
which means you
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always have some kind of lag,
normally referred to as the refresh rate.
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You know, the faster the better,
but it still is out there.
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So if you have a working old CRT monitor,
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television, black and white color
doesn't matter.
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Take a look at places
like Facebook Marketplace.
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Be careful if you sell something.
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They are definitely very fringy,
but that or eBay
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or other situations like that
where you can actually sell these
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and some of the better ones
like the 18, 19, 20 inch,
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Sony try to trons that work
and that kind of things
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are fetching hundreds of dollars now
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because they are perfect
for some of these applications.
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So again, at the end of the day,
don't throw it away.
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You can probably get some money out of it,
at least donate it
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and somebody will be able
to make use out of it.
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It will stay out of the landfill.
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New drop privacy tool helps California
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residents to stop data brokers
from selling their personal information.
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Yes. So I thought this was interesting.
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I also thought we had talked about it
before,
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and I think it got cut because
when this came out, it was a big deal.
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This was launched January 1st of this year
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and it's created
or something called the 2023 Delete act.
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And the Bill.
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362 in California, run by the California
Privacy Protection Agency.
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And basically, it does one thing.
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If you're a California resident,
you can sign up for this thing,
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enter your identifying info
and re submit a request.
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And the idea is is it pulls
your private data from the data brokers.
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So in other words, if you've ever gone out
and googled your name and stuff
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like that,
and it comes up with a lot of information
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that is private, you probably don't want
on the internet, like your phone number
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or your list of your last info,
phone numbers and addresses.
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I mean, you know, it's
kind of interesting, in a,
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in not a good way
all the time of what's actually out there.
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They're looking at a way to be able
to deal with this.
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And the goal is to minimize things like
spam calls and text targeted advertising.
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And the big one is identity theft.
And scams.
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Because between all of the data breaches
we've had,
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including a recent one that's
now coming out of the federal government,
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from some of the events of last year,
Ada was moved
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off of the security systems
into some stuff that wasn't controlled.
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And there's even a rumor
that the entire Social Security
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number database might be on the dark web.
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I haven't been able to confirm that yet,
but it's looking like something like
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that would be the case.
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But even if not with just
the number of DMVs
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and other departments like that that have
been confirmed to have been broken into,
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you can take that and Google
someone's name and get enough information.
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Now, in some cases, to be able to call
a bank and say, hey, this is so-and-so,
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be able to answer the questions
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and, you know, drain checking accounts
and do other things
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that, you know, have all kinds of bad
things that come out of them.
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So I like to see something like this.
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I hope it's successful.
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Yeah.
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Basically where it's at right now
is if you're in California,
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you can submit the request
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you put off as of the first of
last month or 1st of January.
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And it'll go in there.
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The data brokers must start processing
the request by August of this year.
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And then they must, must,
must match the data
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and process it frequently.
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So I'm hoping this is going
to be more beneficial than the no call is.
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What's.
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And if they actually have some teeth
on this thing and can enforce it,
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it most likely will be.
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And just a footnote on that.
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The do Not call list
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was a theme that they tried
to set up the intentions of,
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but we're good
where you can put your phone number on.
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And the, spammers
weren't supposed to call you anymore, but
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what they ended up doing was downloading
the lists of the private numbers,
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verifying that they worked,
and then using those for the robocalls.
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And since a lot of that stuff
comes internationally,
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there was very little
that they could do about it.
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So it kind of backfired.
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The intention was good,
and if they'd been able
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to actually make it work,
it would have been great.
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But, unfortunately
it's a little bit different.
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And I have noticed lately
that the FBI and others
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are taking down some of these
robocall rings, as they call them.
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So, you know, at least that's good.
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But a lot of times
you just the bad guys set up a business,
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make all these calls, and then,
oh yeah, the feds took us down.
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So we walk away from a new business,
you know?
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So it's kind of an ongoing,
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cat and mouse game,
but it is at least moving in a direction
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that they're trying to do something
about it.
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And same thing here.
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Personal data privacy is not what it
once was.
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We've talked about that.
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But certainly
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in this set of circumstances,
it'll be nice to know if this works.
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And, you know, if the state of California
saying, hey, you don't follow this,
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you can't do business
in our state anymore.
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That probably has a lot more teeth to it
than the do not call us yet.
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Oh yeah, keep an eye on this
and see where it goes in
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any of our California listeners,
if you sign up for this,
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let us know how it goes
and what you think of it.
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And if you think this is going to be
something
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that will actually have some kind
of a benefit, my hope is that it does. So
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all right.
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That's what we got in the news
for this week.
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And our Tech Wednesday material.
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I've been trying to address
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some of the bigger questions
that come in from you, our listeners.
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And this week, the topic
that has come out of that is budgeting.
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So this is something that's
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a big deal for,
you know, pretty much anybody.
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If you have good money management skills
that can make things go a lot easier,
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you know, especially when you start
getting a retirement, that type of thing.
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But even as soon as paying them,
you know, our bill for the month.
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And then there are others
that lack these skills
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and it creates all kinds of problems.
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So like anything else, there are apps
you know, back in the old days,
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we used to call that computer software.
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But there are apps out there
now that will help you do budgeting,
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and there are some good ones,
and there are some
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that I would suggest
that you stay away from. Now.
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Rich and Bill,
have you guys ever tried out
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any of these budgeting
or even household management apps?
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No, no.
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See, I hadn't either
and I am reasonably decent with budget,
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but I'm one of those people
that I'll get the receipt,
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throw it in a box
and then worry about it at tax time,
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and then have to file two extensions
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because I can't get it done in time
because of the way that I did that.
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So where I started looking at this was
I thought, okay,
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if there was a tool
where I could photograph receipts
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and now I can do that with a camera,
of course, now.
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But one way it would keep them
organized a little bit better.
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That would be something
that I would find very beneficial,
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because even if I don't do anything else,
I would still have a chronological record
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of the receipts,
and the little paper receipts
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would be backed up because of course,
they're immediately lost or the paper
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turns black or something, you know,
where you can't really do much with it.
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So going through that,
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there are some out there
that seem to have pretty good feedback.
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And in trying these just a little bit
to see what they are,
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I kind of liked them in the first one.
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Gretchen, you're going to love
this. It's called you and Abby.
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Actually, I'm sorry, it's called Y
and Abby.
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I can't even get the acronym right there.
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You need a budget is what that means.
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Oh, okay.
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So this goes through and has a set up
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where you can kind of identify
what you need to pay.
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You give every spend a dollar amount
if every dollar a job
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is what they call it,
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and go through
and kind of see where your money goes
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and that kind of a thing, which is
a good reason for having a budget.
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For me, it kind of had a learning curve.
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It took a little bit to get into it,
but once I did, I kind of liked it.
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Now, the one thing of it is with this
and a lot of the other apps
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part of your budget
needs to be subscription
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cost to the budgeting app,
which in this case is around $100 a year.
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So, you know, it's something that
if you really want to have
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good control over things, this is one
that you would want to look at.
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It's not passive.
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You have to engage with it
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weekly in order for it to work,
and it will bug you if you don't.
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So it's best for people
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ready to change habits
that need a little bit of a kick in them.
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Anyway. To be able to do that.
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So that's a good one.
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Monarch money
this is a top one for mint replacement.
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Mint was an app that was out
for a long time that has become defunct.
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And this has a feature that the other one
doesn't where you can sync accounts.
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So if you are in a relationship
where you and your,
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you know, your partner have a, different
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set up for your budget or anything
like that, or even if you put it together,
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you can coordinate each
have your own account,
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a very customizable
that doesn't have a free tier at all.
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The previous one did
all that was very limited,
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and it's more tracking oriented
than strict budgeting.
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So it's the idea of figuring out
what's going to go where.
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And that kind of a thing is versus
just a spreadsheet of
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I need to spend this much for the month,
for my utility bills or something.
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And it did definitely feel like it's
very well written.
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But again, it does have a cost to it.
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Again, a little over $100
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a year or more, depending on what
you actually subscribed to.
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The other one is called Pocket Guard
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and this shows
how much you can safely spend.
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It is a good beginner's
application is pretty automatic.
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If you want something that's automated
that has, you know more to that.
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One of the things that was interesting in
it is a dashboard.
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One of them is am I broke?
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Is the name of the dashboard, which,
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kind of gets the, gets the point across,
I guess, under certain circumstances.
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Now, as with everything,
there's another side of this list
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and there's some that I would recommend
you avoid.
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And the first one is Credit Karma,
at least as a replacement for budgeting.
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Now, this is one
that's advertised a lot and out there.
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And it's not like malware or anything,
but it does have
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like certain things like the ability
to put spending limits on a category.
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It seems like that would be a very,
you know, basic thing.
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And it's really better for credit
monitoring and budgeting,
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which is, I think, what
originally was supposed to be for.
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But it's kind of moved into this.
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It's free, but it doesn't do much.
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Hey, know what problem you're solving?
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I guess if you're looking into this,
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another one that I found
was called Every Dollar.
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And this one has all kinds of,
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paywalls, including being able
to even sync with your bank accounts.
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That's behind a paid tier.
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Very manual, heavy.
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You know, it's something that,
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if you like certain things,
like the Ramsey approach,
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if you know what that is,
you'll know what I mean.
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Then maybe it's a tool for you,
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but it's not one
that would seem to do a whole lot.
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Copilot money is another one
that actually I kind of like.
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The problem is,
it only exists on Apple and iOS,
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so that kind of blocks out
a lot of the market for that.
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And it seems like limiting. That is,
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00:23:12,691 --> 00:23:15,260
from Android is kind of a big deal
because Android is, of course,
472
00:23:15,260 --> 00:23:19,297
the largest deployed base for smartphone
operating systems.
473
00:23:20,232 --> 00:23:23,101
How do you do, app for couples?
474
00:23:23,101 --> 00:23:26,071
And yeah,
475
00:23:26,872 --> 00:23:29,674
it's a base model,
and it didn't work too well.
476
00:23:29,674 --> 00:23:33,278
It doesn't do household finances,
which I thought was kind of a limitation
477
00:23:33,278 --> 00:23:35,213
that really shouldn't be there.
478
00:23:35,213 --> 00:23:36,481
You know,
the question that came out of this
479
00:23:36,481 --> 00:23:40,752
in some of the comments is, is this
a relationship app or something else?
480
00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:42,454
Anyway, let us know what you think.
481
00:23:42,454 --> 00:23:44,956
This is user friendly. 2.0
we'll be back after the break.
482
00:23:44,956 --> 00:23:47,959
You see here he's from the future.
483
00:23:48,093 --> 00:23:51,163
He's got a really big computer
484
00:23:51,797 --> 00:23:54,900
and he uses it uses it every day
485
00:23:55,333 --> 00:23:58,437
and he uses it in every way.
486
00:23:58,870 --> 00:24:03,475
I see you so you know, I'm
not that sure because he uses.
487
00:24:04,743 --> 00:24:05,243
Welcome back.
488
00:24:05,243 --> 00:24:06,812
This is user friendly 2.0.
489
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Send us your questions and your comments.
490
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491
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492
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493
00:24:19,624 --> 00:24:22,594
looking at Tech Wednesday
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494
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and the other thing on there is
we have a shop page.
495
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If you go to that and click on something,
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496
00:24:29,668 --> 00:24:30,769
you don't have to buy that item.
497
00:24:30,769 --> 00:24:33,772
But anything you buy on Amazon
after you've click that link,
498
00:24:34,105 --> 00:24:34,940
we get a little bit of Jeff
499
00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:38,610
Bezos money, and I have no problem
feeling guilty over doing that.
500
00:24:39,344 --> 00:24:42,781
Let's say you go on and look at a cat
that's, you know, five bucks for a Stem
501
00:24:42,781 --> 00:24:46,985
kit and you go
and you buy a $200,000 Ferrari.
502
00:24:47,652 --> 00:24:49,287
Well, that's
still we get a little bit of that money.
503
00:24:49,287 --> 00:24:51,056
So it does help support the shop.
504
00:24:51,056 --> 00:24:53,625
Anyway,
user friendly dot show is the place to go.
505
00:24:54,693 --> 00:24:55,060
All right.
506
00:24:55,060 --> 00:24:58,296
So we're going to be doing two things
in this segment later in the segment.
507
00:24:58,296 --> 00:25:02,100
Kay Thompson,
one of our reporters had an opportunity
508
00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:07,105
to try out for Wheel of Fortune,
a game show that was kind of cool.
509
00:25:07,105 --> 00:25:08,907
And she talks about that
a little bit and gives us
510
00:25:08,907 --> 00:25:11,109
an update on our books and things.
So that's coming up.
511
00:25:11,109 --> 00:25:13,545
But first I want to talk more about books.
512
00:25:13,545 --> 00:25:14,613
We've had a lot of questions.
513
00:25:14,613 --> 00:25:16,481
Come in, Gretchen, for you on Cyber Hawk.
514
00:25:16,481 --> 00:25:18,416
I hear you're doing well in Australia.
515
00:25:18,416 --> 00:25:20,452
Hello to our Australian listeners.
516
00:25:20,452 --> 00:25:22,521
I think that's kind of cool.
517
00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:22,988
Yeah.
518
00:25:22,988 --> 00:25:26,491
I mean, your books, even on eBay
for like twice as much as the retail price
519
00:25:26,591 --> 00:25:29,594
and they're selling it,
you know, so it's like, that's cool.
520
00:25:29,995 --> 00:25:31,129
So what do you think about all this?
521
00:25:31,129 --> 00:25:34,833
You're actually a published author now
and you're selling your books.
522
00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:36,601
I mean, that's got to be cool.
523
00:25:36,601 --> 00:25:37,836
It is cool.
524
00:25:37,836 --> 00:25:40,772
And at moments I find it hard to believe.
525
00:25:42,641 --> 00:25:44,809
So anyway, you know,
and we're working through a lot of this,
526
00:25:44,809 --> 00:25:46,945
we're going to get to the listener
questions here just in a second.
527
00:25:46,945 --> 00:25:48,480
But boy, has this been a process.
528
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,415
I mean,
I think we've all learned a lot from it.
529
00:25:50,415 --> 00:25:52,250
We're still correcting
some formatting problems.
530
00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:55,353
So if you buy the book right now
the text is great, but it's getting me
531
00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:55,787
sorry,
532
00:25:55,787 --> 00:25:58,123
I want to get it done,
but just weird things
533
00:25:58,123 --> 00:25:59,591
you don't want to look for new to this.
534
00:25:59,591 --> 00:26:01,626
So that's how you learn and you know.
535
00:26:01,626 --> 00:26:03,295
But the feedback we're getting
has been great.
536
00:26:03,295 --> 00:26:06,531
So let's go ahead and talk about some of
the feedback that we've been getting.
537
00:26:06,998 --> 00:26:09,434
And Gretchen,
I've got a few hot questions for you here.
538
00:26:09,434 --> 00:26:12,437
If you're up for taking them. Okeydoke.
539
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:15,040
So let's start with the first one.
540
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,510
When you were talking about Cyber Hawk,
it sounded like you had a life event
541
00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:21,212
or something that gave you
the idea. Is that true?
542
00:26:21,212 --> 00:26:23,248
And if so, what was it?
543
00:26:23,248 --> 00:26:28,253
Okay, well, the life event
was actually, Bill, our host,
544
00:26:29,421 --> 00:26:31,022
getting a job
545
00:26:31,022 --> 00:26:35,827
with a robotics company
where he did programing with them,
546
00:26:36,494 --> 00:26:39,764
and he talked about the equipment
547
00:26:40,398 --> 00:26:45,837
and what it did and the three of us, Bill,
Jeremy and myself,
548
00:26:46,504 --> 00:26:50,342
we thought, wouldn't
that make a really cool comic book?
549
00:26:50,842 --> 00:26:56,014
So that's what inspired us,
and specifically me too,
550
00:26:56,047 --> 00:26:59,718
since I was the writer of the group,
to start working on this idea.
551
00:27:00,151 --> 00:27:01,486
And I think I think that's cool.
552
00:27:01,486 --> 00:27:04,990
And for anybody that hasn't bought
the book yet, number one, why haven't you?
553
00:27:05,490 --> 00:27:08,360
And number two, if you have,
you might notice this is not a comic book.
554
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:10,762
And we're going to talk about that
in a minute here.
555
00:27:10,762 --> 00:27:13,765
Our next question that came in
Cyber Hawk feels very cinematic.
556
00:27:14,032 --> 00:27:17,035
Did you picture it as a movie or series
while writing?
557
00:27:17,335 --> 00:27:21,172
Yeah, actually,
whenever I write stories, it's
558
00:27:21,172 --> 00:27:25,410
like it is a movie that
plays out in my head and,
559
00:27:26,845 --> 00:27:28,647
you know, sometimes the characters do
560
00:27:28,647 --> 00:27:32,751
the unexpected things and it's like, oh,
okay, we need to go down that path.
561
00:27:32,784 --> 00:27:35,787
So yes, I do see it visually in my head.
562
00:27:37,155 --> 00:27:37,756
Our next one.
563
00:27:37,756 --> 00:27:40,225
Were any of the characters
besides major bluster
564
00:27:40,225 --> 00:27:43,228
inspired by real people in your life?
565
00:27:44,295 --> 00:27:45,764
Okay.
566
00:27:45,764 --> 00:27:48,767
Major bluster.
567
00:27:50,101 --> 00:27:50,902
Okay.
568
00:27:50,902 --> 00:27:55,340
Some of the characters, are inspired
by some real people, and,
569
00:27:55,740 --> 00:27:57,709
some of them are kind of like,
570
00:27:57,709 --> 00:28:01,446
well, what would Bill be like
if I could give him a character?
571
00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:05,950
And, I did that with a couple of people,
and it's not like it
572
00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:10,455
that the characters are them,
but it's me imagining them
573
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:13,992
pretending to be actors or being actors
574
00:28:13,992 --> 00:28:16,995
and pretending to be the characters.
575
00:28:17,462 --> 00:28:20,465
All right,
that key elements feel very believable.
576
00:28:20,632 --> 00:28:23,001
How much research
went into the futuristic aspects?
577
00:28:23,001 --> 00:28:25,437
And this is a good question,
because if you don't do this right,
578
00:28:25,437 --> 00:28:26,304
it sounds fake.
579
00:28:26,304 --> 00:28:28,006
And the feedback we've been getting
580
00:28:28,006 --> 00:28:29,741
is that
you've kind of hit this nail on the head.
581
00:28:29,741 --> 00:28:31,743
So let's talk a little bit about that.
582
00:28:31,743 --> 00:28:36,481
So I do have a long background
with technology.
583
00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:40,719
I'm not a programmer or an engineer, but,
584
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,924
I, worked as a geological draftsman.
585
00:28:47,192 --> 00:28:49,094
And that meant that I use the computer
586
00:28:49,094 --> 00:28:52,130
and a digitizer to help create maps.
587
00:28:52,864 --> 00:28:56,034
Then I also did web design,
588
00:28:56,668 --> 00:29:01,172
and then I had a short time where,
I worked with some really amazing people,
589
00:29:01,172 --> 00:29:06,211
and we had a small software company,
and we also did it support.
590
00:29:06,211 --> 00:29:11,182
So I saw a lot of things
happening in technology.
591
00:29:11,783 --> 00:29:14,652
And then when we started doing the show,
592
00:29:14,652 --> 00:29:17,655
I did the research to,
593
00:29:17,722 --> 00:29:20,725
get the news items
after Jeremy passed away.
594
00:29:21,259 --> 00:29:27,198
And so I was exposed to looking
at a lot of articles
595
00:29:27,198 --> 00:29:30,735
about how science and technology could be
596
00:29:30,735 --> 00:29:33,738
or will be changing people's lives.
597
00:29:33,738 --> 00:29:37,742
So I have a
an idea of, well, this is possible.
598
00:29:37,742 --> 00:29:40,445
Maybe that will be possible someday.
599
00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:45,016
So I think that might be the best way
to describe how how much research.
600
00:29:45,016 --> 00:29:49,888
And when I come across a topic
that is beyond me, like,
601
00:29:51,422 --> 00:29:51,689
in the
602
00:29:51,689 --> 00:29:54,993
future,
you might see one of my characters acting.
603
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,899
I know of a person who understands
hacking, and I asked them for
604
00:30:01,299 --> 00:30:06,871
some basic ideas of what is the procedure
without causing too much trouble.
605
00:30:06,871 --> 00:30:08,706
You know what I mean? Right?
606
00:30:08,706 --> 00:30:09,874
Right. You know.
607
00:30:09,874 --> 00:30:12,110
Yeah, this is one of the things
that is a big deal.
608
00:30:12,110 --> 00:30:15,113
And I know your book has been covered
in Detroit Free Press and some other
609
00:30:15,513 --> 00:30:18,650
pretty decent publications, and
that's something that's been talked about.
610
00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:21,419
Now, Bill,
you read, of course, and so do I.
611
00:30:21,419 --> 00:30:24,088
When you run into a story
where the tech just seems
612
00:30:24,088 --> 00:30:26,224
totally out there,
does that take away from the book?
613
00:30:26,224 --> 00:30:30,094
Or you usually
it depends on the suspension of disbelief,
614
00:30:30,261 --> 00:30:33,164
possibly inside that world.
615
00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:35,033
Yeah. Really?
616
00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:35,300
Yeah.
617
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:37,936
Like in Star Wars you can
you can have fun.
618
00:30:37,936 --> 00:30:39,270
And I think that's a good point.
619
00:30:39,270 --> 00:30:41,139
You know, kind of
comes down to what you're doing now.
620
00:30:41,139 --> 00:30:43,608
Your book is set more or less real world.
621
00:30:43,608 --> 00:30:46,811
So you would have
I have to be careful now.
622
00:30:48,179 --> 00:30:48,546
All right.
623
00:30:48,546 --> 00:30:51,549
Well on the feet of that,
what was the biggest challenge
624
00:30:51,549 --> 00:30:54,552
you faced while writing Wise barrels?
625
00:30:54,986 --> 00:30:57,488
The biggest challenge?
626
00:30:57,488 --> 00:31:01,359
Well, we originally wanted to make it as,
a comic book,
627
00:31:02,093 --> 00:31:06,097
so I thought, okay, if it's a comic book,
628
00:31:06,097 --> 00:31:10,001
then I don't have to describe events,
I need pictures.
629
00:31:10,668 --> 00:31:14,973
And I started trying to write it
like a screenplay.
630
00:31:15,173 --> 00:31:16,875
And I've never written a screenplay.
631
00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:19,577
I have no training on,
632
00:31:19,577 --> 00:31:22,580
and I was having a real hard time,
633
00:31:22,981 --> 00:31:25,783
being able to make the story go forward.
634
00:31:25,783 --> 00:31:30,588
And luckily,
I have a friend who has extensive
635
00:31:31,022 --> 00:31:33,591
understanding
in the entertainment industry
636
00:31:33,591 --> 00:31:37,795
as a director,
a creator, producer and a writer.
637
00:31:37,795 --> 00:31:41,699
And he's like, no, you're
supposed to write that is a novel first,
638
00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:43,101
and then comes the comic book.
639
00:31:43,101 --> 00:31:46,104
And I'm like,
oh gosh, we've been doing it wrong.
640
00:31:46,204 --> 00:31:50,942
So I had to change what I started
and try and figure out
641
00:31:51,342 --> 00:31:55,847
how to build an outline from what
I had begun, and it made it difficult.
642
00:31:56,047 --> 00:31:59,050
And that's the reason why we have
the origin story,
643
00:31:59,183 --> 00:32:04,322
was because it was taking me too long
to figure out how to fix Rise of Heroes.
644
00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:08,092
The origin story is a novelette,
as I'm saying that.
645
00:32:08,092 --> 00:32:10,495
Right?
That came out about a year and a half ago.
646
00:32:10,495 --> 00:32:14,599
Now, we'll just kind of give
some background on who the characters are
647
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:15,633
and that type of thing.
648
00:32:15,633 --> 00:32:17,602
And, was a good starting point.
649
00:32:17,602 --> 00:32:18,836
So, yeah, I see where coming from.
650
00:32:18,836 --> 00:32:20,238
And there is a huge difference
651
00:32:20,238 --> 00:32:23,374
between writing a novel and a screenplay
and a comic book and whatever.
652
00:32:23,541 --> 00:32:24,509
Oh, yeah.
653
00:32:24,509 --> 00:32:27,512
I mean, just
they're completely different beasts.
654
00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:27,946
Oh, yeah.
655
00:32:27,946 --> 00:32:30,848
Oh, I can see
I can see where that would have been.
656
00:32:30,848 --> 00:32:34,719
An interesting start to have to change
from the other question that came here.
657
00:32:34,719 --> 00:32:37,455
I'm not sure quite how this leaked out,
but I heard there was a theme song.
658
00:32:37,455 --> 00:32:39,824
Is there one and how do I find it?
659
00:32:39,824 --> 00:32:42,794
Yes, there is one and feel you know
660
00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:45,863
more of the information on how to find it
and who did it.
661
00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:48,299
Right? Right now you can't.
662
00:32:48,299 --> 00:32:49,400
Oh, okay.
663
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,401
It is quite question here.
664
00:32:50,401 --> 00:32:52,670
That reminds me
I because I got to take care of it.
665
00:32:52,670 --> 00:32:54,238
This is going to be on Amazon Music.
666
00:32:54,238 --> 00:32:56,040
That's where you're going to be able
to get it.
667
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,709
And what I'm going to do
668
00:32:57,709 --> 00:33:00,712
is get back on that
and get that back on the top of my list.
669
00:33:00,845 --> 00:33:02,580
And then we'll announce here
how to find it.
670
00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:06,217
I put a link on the website
as well as soon as it's available.
671
00:33:06,217 --> 00:33:09,220
So you're just going to have to remain
in suspense on that one a little bit.
672
00:33:09,220 --> 00:33:11,522
Good song. We'll talk about the origin
of it too, when it's out.
673
00:33:14,459 --> 00:33:14,959
All right.
674
00:33:14,959 --> 00:33:17,729
Listener or listeners
that are just discovering the series,
675
00:33:17,729 --> 00:33:20,865
what makes Cyber Hawks
stand out from other superhero stories?
676
00:33:20,865 --> 00:33:23,201
And we've gotten a number of variants
on this questions.
677
00:33:23,201 --> 00:33:26,204
That kind of is a summary. Okay.
678
00:33:26,237 --> 00:33:28,573
How is it different from all the others?
679
00:33:28,573 --> 00:33:33,411
Well, superheroes and a lot of the other,
stuff that I've come across,
680
00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:36,748
they don't work with the firemen,
they don't work
681
00:33:36,748 --> 00:33:39,751
with the policemen,
they don't work with the ambulance people.
682
00:33:40,651 --> 00:33:43,988
They just, solve the problem themselves.
683
00:33:43,988 --> 00:33:46,991
And sometimes, like, even,
like with Batman,
684
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:50,995
Batman's
dealing with incompetent cops, okay?
685
00:33:50,995 --> 00:33:52,530
Or crooked cops.
686
00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,999
And he's lucky
that he has Commissioner Gordon.
687
00:33:54,999 --> 00:33:56,734
Okay to work with.
688
00:33:56,734 --> 00:34:01,272
But in my stories,
my superheroes are regular people
689
00:34:01,806 --> 00:34:04,809
that are working with emergency
responders.
690
00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:06,511
They're. They're like a partner.
691
00:34:09,147 --> 00:34:11,682
Now. So it's more like a
692
00:34:11,682 --> 00:34:15,186
if I'm understanding that correctly,
where it's a mash of things,
693
00:34:15,186 --> 00:34:17,955
instead of trying to say,
oh, our first responders are really good.
694
00:34:17,955 --> 00:34:19,090
So now we need superheroes.
695
00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:21,125
If I'm understanding what you just said.
696
00:34:21,125 --> 00:34:21,392
Yeah.
697
00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:24,228
It's like they they compliment each other.
698
00:34:24,228 --> 00:34:27,965
The superhero,
the cyber hawks are there to assist
699
00:34:28,166 --> 00:34:31,569
the emergency responders
and make their job easier.
700
00:34:33,171 --> 00:34:35,373
All right, so another one now,
you talked about the comic book thing.
701
00:34:35,373 --> 00:34:36,274
Did the story change
702
00:34:36,274 --> 00:34:39,510
significantly from your original outline
while you were writing?
703
00:34:40,411 --> 00:34:42,613
Yeah, I was, because of the,
704
00:34:42,613 --> 00:34:45,416
lot of the comic book change.
705
00:34:45,416 --> 00:34:46,851
Yeah. It did.
706
00:34:46,851 --> 00:34:49,587
Well, yeah, I can see where, you know,
where that would go from that type
707
00:34:49,587 --> 00:34:50,188
of thing.
708
00:34:50,188 --> 00:34:52,890
And another one,
another time that we have left here.
709
00:34:52,890 --> 00:34:55,259
Are you planning any more books?
710
00:34:55,259 --> 00:34:57,895
I'm working on the next one right now.
711
00:34:57,895 --> 00:35:00,131
Okay. And what's it called, if I may ask?
712
00:35:00,131 --> 00:35:01,132
Unveiled villains.
713
00:35:01,132 --> 00:35:03,034
Because you got to know
who the bad guys are.
714
00:35:03,034 --> 00:35:05,336
Yeah, you do,
and you got to have some bad guys.
715
00:35:05,336 --> 00:35:07,472
Whenever you get good bye, guys,
you get bad guys.
716
00:35:07,472 --> 00:35:09,107
The thing is to be the case
in the real world,
717
00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:11,676
who sometimes
a little more than we'd like.
718
00:35:11,676 --> 00:35:12,977
We'll. We'll get back with you on that.
719
00:35:12,977 --> 00:35:16,247
Let's go to our interview with Kay
and find out about Wheel of Fortune.
720
00:35:17,215 --> 00:35:17,849
Joining us now,
721
00:35:17,849 --> 00:35:21,619
Kay Thompson, author and other things
that we're going to talk about today.
722
00:35:21,619 --> 00:35:23,354
Welcome to User Friendly.
723
00:35:23,354 --> 00:35:26,157
Thank you very much for having me again.
724
00:35:26,157 --> 00:35:28,593
So I want to get into your status
on your books.
725
00:35:28,593 --> 00:35:29,393
We've talked.
726
00:35:29,393 --> 00:35:32,396
It's been a while since we've talked about
where you are with with your stuff.
727
00:35:32,396 --> 00:35:35,800
I know you got another book published,
but before that, I want to talk about
728
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,604
something else that you mentioned to me
that is kind of cool and unique.
729
00:35:40,104 --> 00:35:40,538
And that's it.
730
00:35:40,538 --> 00:35:42,740
You either got on or got an interview
to get on.
731
00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:44,408
Wheel of Fortune.
732
00:35:44,408 --> 00:35:45,543
Yeah, yeah.
733
00:35:45,543 --> 00:35:50,882
So I was I was super excited about getting
that interview for, we were fortunate.
734
00:35:50,882 --> 00:35:53,885
It was, kind of a surprise, actually.
735
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:57,355
So normally
I watch Wheel of Fortune with my family,
736
00:35:57,755 --> 00:36:01,159
and they suggested
I try it out, and I have tried out,
737
00:36:02,527 --> 00:36:05,029
doing, like,
738
00:36:05,029 --> 00:36:07,298
application online.
739
00:36:07,298 --> 00:36:12,403
And so, to get the interview,
I was just really, like, excited about it.
740
00:36:12,403 --> 00:36:15,406
And, so the process was,
741
00:36:16,507 --> 00:36:19,177
so the interview happened.
742
00:36:19,177 --> 00:36:22,180
It's been a while since it happened, but,
743
00:36:23,047 --> 00:36:26,417
so what happened was they
they have an interview
744
00:36:26,417 --> 00:36:29,921
with a whole bunch of, like, there
was, like, only four of us, I believe.
745
00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:33,524
So for, interviewees and,
746
00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:37,428
there was like, three other guys
that were interviewing the same time
747
00:36:37,428 --> 00:36:42,066
I was and, they were asking us
a bunch of questions about,
748
00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:46,871
you know, what our hobbies were,
what kind of theme?
749
00:36:47,171 --> 00:36:52,643
We would like on our, on our if we were
to be on the show and everything.
750
00:36:52,677 --> 00:36:55,680
So we each gave our answers, and,
751
00:36:56,647 --> 00:36:58,683
so I anticipated,
752
00:36:58,683 --> 00:37:02,186
not getting a response for a while
because it's like an interview.
753
00:37:02,186 --> 00:37:02,553
Like I.
754
00:37:04,322 --> 00:37:06,090
But from
my understanding, because they don't
755
00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:11,195
really go into a whole lot of like
if we get selected,
756
00:37:11,195 --> 00:37:17,001
they did say that we were to, get like,
hear, hear back.
757
00:37:17,001 --> 00:37:20,605
So they wanted us to practice
after the interview and everything, just,
758
00:37:21,405 --> 00:37:25,142
but so far
I haven't heard anything back from them,
759
00:37:25,142 --> 00:37:29,180
and it's been a while, so I assume that
they didn't really care for my answers.
760
00:37:29,814 --> 00:37:33,818
But, I did find out that
there was one lady
761
00:37:34,318 --> 00:37:39,090
that it took her years to actually
get accepted to be on the show.
762
00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:41,359
So the first interview was very exciting.
763
00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:44,495
Like, you know, it's a very good
accomplishment to get the first interview,
764
00:37:45,563 --> 00:37:48,566
but it is still kind of better than
765
00:37:49,467 --> 00:37:50,101
it sounds like.
766
00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:51,936
It's a thing that takes some patience,
767
00:37:51,936 --> 00:37:54,839
but you're an author,
so you're used to that anyway.
768
00:37:54,839 --> 00:37:56,374
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
769
00:37:56,374 --> 00:38:00,011
You know, I, I kind of have to be,
but yeah, it's my first time.
770
00:38:00,311 --> 00:38:02,813
So it gave me a
little bit of practice. But,
771
00:38:04,248 --> 00:38:04,482
but yeah.
772
00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:08,252
So my understanding
is that they hold on to those applications
773
00:38:08,252 --> 00:38:12,690
and those interview questions and stuff
for a while before they actually like,
774
00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:15,693
you know, disregard it and stuff,
and then you have to reapply.
775
00:38:16,861 --> 00:38:18,362
So for my understanding.
776
00:38:18,362 --> 00:38:21,332
But, you know,
it's still a learning process.
777
00:38:21,632 --> 00:38:25,202
But it's, it's an honor
just to be, you know, interviewed,
778
00:38:25,369 --> 00:38:28,372
you know, for the first time, question
without a question.
779
00:38:28,673 --> 00:38:32,176
You know, I don't know if not hearing
back yet, it means that you were declined.
780
00:38:32,176 --> 00:38:34,312
It would seem like on something like that,
they'd probably tell you.
781
00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:37,315
But, you know, if somebody had to wait
years to get on, how did you even
782
00:38:37,581 --> 00:38:39,617
I mean, how does somebody interview
if they want to
783
00:38:39,617 --> 00:38:42,553
you go to a website
or do you have to be invited?
784
00:38:42,553 --> 00:38:42,920
Yeah.
785
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,923
You go to the Wheel of fortune.com
website.
786
00:38:46,190 --> 00:38:51,228
It has, you know, to be a contestant
if you have to go in there,
787
00:38:51,228 --> 00:38:55,232
you have to fill out your name,
your information and stuff like that.
788
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,902
And then you,
789
00:38:57,902 --> 00:39:01,038
you have to, submit, like a,
790
00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:06,544
a video of yourself, you know, just like,
you know, introducing yourself.
791
00:39:06,544 --> 00:39:06,811
What?
792
00:39:06,811 --> 00:39:10,381
You know, because basically
every contestant that's on there,
793
00:39:10,381 --> 00:39:13,718
you have to be able to tell a good story,
you know, a brief story,
794
00:39:14,585 --> 00:39:17,822
good story about yourself and your life
and what you, you know,
795
00:39:18,823 --> 00:39:22,059
and a lot of the times
they'll have you, like, when you pick out
796
00:39:22,059 --> 00:39:26,197
a theme, you can actually pick out a theme
that's never been on the show before.
797
00:39:26,764 --> 00:39:28,899
So because it's all about entertainment.
798
00:39:28,899 --> 00:39:30,835
So. Right.
799
00:39:30,835 --> 00:39:34,772
So you have to be somewhat entertaining,
but it's got to be like a brief
800
00:39:34,772 --> 00:39:37,942
summary, like, you know,
very short summary because they only have
801
00:39:37,942 --> 00:39:40,945
a certain air time. So,
802
00:39:41,011 --> 00:39:41,879
you know, that makes it. Yeah.
803
00:39:41,879 --> 00:39:43,848
If I allowed to ask
you what theme you requested.
804
00:39:45,216 --> 00:39:45,649
I'm sorry.
805
00:39:45,649 --> 00:39:49,120
What I said, am I allowed to ask you
what theme you requested?
806
00:39:50,755 --> 00:39:51,222
Yeah.
807
00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:56,427
So I, I don't foresee me,
getting on the show
808
00:39:56,427 --> 00:40:01,232
because there's been no formal, but,
so I didn't really.
809
00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:05,269
I told them I didn't have,
like, a specific theme at the time
810
00:40:05,269 --> 00:40:08,973
because I, it was my first interview
and I was, like, kind of nerve wracking.
811
00:40:08,973 --> 00:40:14,278
I was hearing all the other, you know,
contestants, answers and everything.
812
00:40:14,278 --> 00:40:17,281
So a lot of their answers were like,
really good.
813
00:40:17,515 --> 00:40:19,784
But, I was
814
00:40:19,784 --> 00:40:23,554
I didn't really think about the theme,
really, because,
815
00:40:23,587 --> 00:40:27,024
you know, again, being my first interview,
I didn't know what to expect.
816
00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:30,161
But when they asked me that, I said,
817
00:40:30,161 --> 00:40:33,431
I like the whole idea of a family week.
818
00:40:33,864 --> 00:40:37,601
You know, two like you being on there
with another family member, but,
819
00:40:38,836 --> 00:40:40,404
yeah, you have to do the interview
820
00:40:40,404 --> 00:40:43,808
with the other family member
and like that. So,
821
00:40:44,842 --> 00:40:47,011
Yeah, I just didn't really think that.
822
00:40:47,011 --> 00:40:50,614
Well, about that whole,
you know, question there
823
00:40:50,781 --> 00:40:52,850
because I like the idea of, of, of
824
00:40:52,850 --> 00:40:55,553
I think I've seen that actually
where they've done stuff like that.
825
00:40:55,553 --> 00:40:58,355
So it's yeah, you know, be cool.
826
00:40:58,355 --> 00:40:59,089
Cool idea. Cool.
827
00:40:59,089 --> 00:41:00,691
Well, listen,
you'll have to let us know, and
828
00:41:00,691 --> 00:41:04,094
especially if you, get,
you know, get called back or even don't.
829
00:41:04,595 --> 00:41:05,763
I think it's just kind of cool
830
00:41:05,763 --> 00:41:08,766
that you were even able to be involved in
something like that.
831
00:41:08,766 --> 00:41:12,203
And, you know, it sounds like it's fun,
and I can understand
832
00:41:12,203 --> 00:41:14,939
why that would be a little nerve wracking,
especially you've never done it before.
833
00:41:14,939 --> 00:41:16,106
But at least
834
00:41:16,106 --> 00:41:18,642
if they don't like it the first time,
it sounds like you can apply again.
835
00:41:18,642 --> 00:41:21,378
You know, you're not like,
yeah, walked out of it or something.
836
00:41:21,378 --> 00:41:23,080
So, right.
837
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,682
That's cool. That is too cool.
838
00:41:24,682 --> 00:41:27,251
All right. Let's talk about your books
a little bit. Where are you out with that?
839
00:41:28,619 --> 00:41:30,988
Okay, so my first book has
840
00:41:30,988 --> 00:41:34,625
been selling a little bit more on Amazon.
841
00:41:35,292 --> 00:41:39,597
And then my second book
is still not quite, published on Amazon is
842
00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:41,499
the publishing,
843
00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:44,235
process is complete,
like all the editing and everything.
844
00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:45,402
That's all good,
845
00:41:45,402 --> 00:41:48,973
but I'm still making payments
on the publishing, so they, on
846
00:41:48,973 --> 00:41:50,174
the publishing rights and stuff.
847
00:41:50,174 --> 00:41:53,310
So that's not going to be, officially
848
00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:56,313
on Amazon until after,
849
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,682
I finished making those payments.
850
00:41:58,682 --> 00:42:01,085
But, the third book, I,
851
00:42:01,085 --> 00:42:04,088
I've gotten quite a bit into it.
852
00:42:04,154 --> 00:42:07,157
But I'm still it's
still a work in progress.
853
00:42:07,491 --> 00:42:10,728
But, you know,
that's as far as I've gotten to it.
854
00:42:12,029 --> 00:42:15,733
So, I mean, give us your,
give us your book titles that you would
855
00:42:15,733 --> 00:42:19,236
because the first one you can order
now, it sounds like, so first,
856
00:42:20,437 --> 00:42:23,440
yeah, the first one is the Dragon fantasy,
857
00:42:23,507 --> 00:42:26,510
and then the second one is called
the Dragon Flame.
858
00:42:26,944 --> 00:42:27,244
Okay.
859
00:42:27,244 --> 00:42:31,048
And then, I got my third one
that I'm currently working on.
860
00:42:31,048 --> 00:42:33,484
It's called the Dragon Siege.
861
00:42:33,484 --> 00:42:33,684
Okay.
862
00:42:33,684 --> 00:42:34,852
And then,
863
00:42:34,852 --> 00:42:38,455
I'm going into, like, a fourth
one after that, it was just going to be
864
00:42:38,455 --> 00:42:39,423
the Dragon Origins.
865
00:42:39,423 --> 00:42:41,792
So I was sensing a theme here.
866
00:42:41,792 --> 00:42:44,395
I think there might the dragons involved?
867
00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:47,231
Yes. Yes, it's a it's a dragon story.
868
00:42:47,231 --> 00:42:51,135
But, you know,
my dragons are a little bit,
869
00:42:51,135 --> 00:42:54,338
you know, more, different.
870
00:42:54,338 --> 00:42:57,308
Like they have take on human forms
and everything in my book.
871
00:42:57,308 --> 00:42:59,743
So, you know, it's.
872
00:42:59,743 --> 00:43:02,880
Yeah, a lot more action and stuff
as the story goes along.
873
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,417
So, it does take a little bit more time
874
00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:10,187
because I have to really like
dive into the action part, which is.
875
00:43:10,220 --> 00:43:11,288
Right. Yeah.
876
00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:13,591
I, you know, I'm sure it
877
00:43:13,591 --> 00:43:17,227
takes a lot of skill to write that too,
because I know
878
00:43:17,227 --> 00:43:21,131
I have had some recent experience
with, book publishing.
879
00:43:21,131 --> 00:43:21,999
I did not write a book.
880
00:43:21,999 --> 00:43:23,901
I wish I could say that, but with,
881
00:43:23,901 --> 00:43:27,104
our co-host Gretchen and her Cyber
Hawk series, and I've learned a lot
882
00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:29,840
about what actually goes into this,
and we're writing
883
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,843
the book is actually
just a small part of it in some ways,
884
00:43:33,010 --> 00:43:35,479
because you have to go through
all the other stuff.
885
00:43:35,479 --> 00:43:36,213
Yeah.
886
00:43:36,213 --> 00:43:40,184
Yeah, it's it can be kind of a challenge,
but I mean, I,
887
00:43:40,618 --> 00:43:43,220
I ultimately like absolutely
888
00:43:43,220 --> 00:43:46,290
just love like the world inside my book.
889
00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:50,394
Although I will let everybody know
that, in my book,
890
00:43:50,394 --> 00:43:53,797
even the first, book and the,
the second book,
891
00:43:54,131 --> 00:43:57,835
there is going to be a map
of the inside of my world in my book.
892
00:43:57,901 --> 00:43:58,369
Okay.
893
00:43:58,369 --> 00:44:01,672
So you will be able to see what the world
inside my book looks like.
894
00:44:03,574 --> 00:44:05,142
So, you know,
895
00:44:05,142 --> 00:44:08,145
and speaking of such things,
I, I've seen the covers
896
00:44:08,278 --> 00:44:11,615
of the first two and,
I think they're really cool.
897
00:44:11,749 --> 00:44:14,752
What went into creating that?
898
00:44:14,952 --> 00:44:19,690
So there's a lot of I into, creating that.
899
00:44:20,691 --> 00:44:23,260
So my first book,
900
00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:25,596
they basically kept the background
901
00:44:25,596 --> 00:44:30,167
to my first Earth, first edition of it
and stuff, and I added the like,
902
00:44:30,634 --> 00:44:33,637
I, you know, Dragon on the front.
903
00:44:34,571 --> 00:44:37,141
My second book, it's the same thing,
but it just
904
00:44:37,141 --> 00:44:40,744
each each of my books
is going to be a different color theme.
905
00:44:41,612 --> 00:44:44,815
My, my second book is like,
you know, red background
906
00:44:44,815 --> 00:44:48,152
and everything,
same, same landmarks and stuff.
907
00:44:48,585 --> 00:44:51,588
But also the, second book has,
908
00:44:52,456 --> 00:44:55,459
I use ChatGPT for that,
909
00:44:55,893 --> 00:44:59,830
that, that main character
cover on the front and stuff.
910
00:44:59,830 --> 00:45:02,166
So it was very interesting.
911
00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:05,269
Were you
able to just type in a prompt and,
912
00:45:05,269 --> 00:45:07,237
and spit out a cover,
or how did that work?
913
00:45:07,237 --> 00:45:10,374
Because I know ChatGPT and the others
are great at creating artwork,
914
00:45:10,374 --> 00:45:13,377
but usually it isn't quite that simple.
915
00:45:13,444 --> 00:45:16,447
So I basically,
916
00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:19,783
described what I was looking for.
917
00:45:21,518 --> 00:45:24,722
Like the type of character
that I wanted her to be, like,
918
00:45:25,355 --> 00:45:28,726
kind of grasping at her
heart a little bit, but kind of like
919
00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:32,763
described her what she was wearing,
how she looked and everything.
920
00:45:32,763 --> 00:45:37,301
And it took a couple tries to get it
exactly the way I wanted it to look like.
921
00:45:38,268 --> 00:45:41,538
But once it, it
really, like, came together.
922
00:45:41,538 --> 00:45:43,440
And you can only,
923
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,911
you can only ask them to redo it, like,
a few times in a day,
924
00:45:48,245 --> 00:45:51,248
unless you actually pay
subscription for it.
925
00:45:51,615 --> 00:45:54,852
But then you have to wait
until the next day to actually try it.
926
00:45:54,852 --> 00:45:57,654
So, can you. Yeah. Yeah.
927
00:45:57,654 --> 00:46:00,357
So it it turned out really well, I like
928
00:46:00,357 --> 00:46:04,595
I at first my publishers, illustrator,
929
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:08,065
gave me some examples of what they,
930
00:46:08,065 --> 00:46:12,336
you know, drew and everything,
and I just didn't like any of them.
931
00:46:12,336 --> 00:46:15,439
They weren't,
you know, one was too cartoony.
932
00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:20,144
The other one was like,
not even, like, very realistic.
933
00:46:20,477 --> 00:46:22,479
I didn't really like the look of it.
934
00:46:22,479 --> 00:46:24,481
It didn't really stand out to me.
935
00:46:24,481 --> 00:46:29,153
But then I, of course,
the ChatGPT one was just like, awesome.
936
00:46:29,153 --> 00:46:32,322
And it just stood out and stuff
and it kind of like
937
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:35,759
has the same type of,
938
00:46:35,759 --> 00:46:38,762
artwork as, first book a little bit.
939
00:46:38,762 --> 00:46:41,532
Right. So, yeah.
940
00:46:41,532 --> 00:46:43,133
And that's, I'm excited about it.
941
00:46:43,133 --> 00:46:46,136
Is your book illustrated
or how does how did that work?
942
00:46:48,071 --> 00:46:50,040
So it is illustrated
943
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,043
a little bit,
but like I said, a lot of AI,
944
00:46:53,343 --> 00:46:56,346
technology
has been used in the cover, and,
945
00:46:57,014 --> 00:47:02,719
they could do a lot of illustrations
on the, the map inside the book.
946
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,523
That's the only thing that's illustrated
the rest is all text
947
00:47:06,523 --> 00:47:09,526
and the, story and everything. So.
948
00:47:10,027 --> 00:47:11,261
Okay. Yeah.
949
00:47:11,261 --> 00:47:12,663
Oh. That's cool.
950
00:47:12,663 --> 00:47:14,331
Well,
anything else you want to tell us about?
951
00:47:18,402 --> 00:47:20,070
I just, I hope that all of
952
00:47:20,070 --> 00:47:23,674
you wind up reading my book
and really get into it.
953
00:47:24,107 --> 00:47:27,110
It is a very like,
954
00:47:27,344 --> 00:47:28,579
exciting story.
955
00:47:28,579 --> 00:47:32,282
And as the story goes along,
you know, it's going to be
956
00:47:32,783 --> 00:47:36,687
my hope
is because after I get my, second book
957
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:40,157
fully on the market and everything,
I have a lady
958
00:47:40,157 --> 00:47:43,160
that I'm going to be working with
to try to,
959
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,896
turn them into audiobooks,
but I have to wait until they're fully
960
00:47:45,896 --> 00:47:48,398
both on the market
to be able to start that process.
961
00:47:48,398 --> 00:47:50,100
Audiobooks. Yeah, yeah.
962
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:52,836
And I know there's
a lot of people out there that are like,
963
00:47:52,836 --> 00:47:56,073
you know, not really big readers,
but they love listening to the audiobooks.
964
00:47:56,073 --> 00:47:58,108
So stay tuned.
965
00:47:58,108 --> 00:47:59,910
There are going to be audiobooks made.
966
00:47:59,910 --> 00:48:03,780
You just need to be patient
a little bit with this process. So.
967
00:48:04,715 --> 00:48:05,482
Oh, absolutely.
968
00:48:05,482 --> 00:48:06,183
Absolutely.
969
00:48:06,183 --> 00:48:08,952
And for our listeners out there,
the book, there's going to be a link to
970
00:48:08,952 --> 00:48:11,955
where you can buy it, at user friendly
Dot show in the shop page,
971
00:48:12,456 --> 00:48:15,359
and we'll have the first one up there now.
972
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:17,561
And as the other ones
come out, just check back there.
973
00:48:17,561 --> 00:48:20,030
So it'll be a one link or so.
You don't have to write anything down.
974
00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:22,165
Just remember
user friendly dot show and click on shop
975
00:48:22,165 --> 00:48:25,168
and they can get your book
right from there.
976
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:27,771
Oh all right.
977
00:48:27,771 --> 00:48:29,506
Well listen
thank you so much for joining us today.
978
00:48:29,506 --> 00:48:30,474
And we'll get another update
979
00:48:30,474 --> 00:48:33,477
when you get closer to the second book
actually being available.
980
00:48:33,844 --> 00:48:35,312
Let's let's get you back again.
981
00:48:35,312 --> 00:48:37,080
And talk about that.
982
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:37,915
Sounds good.
983
00:48:37,915 --> 00:48:40,284
Thank you very much for having me.
984
00:48:40,284 --> 00:48:41,752
Alrighty. As always, it's a pleasure.
985
00:48:41,752 --> 00:48:45,088
And it's always happy
to have you here as a guest.
986
00:48:45,656 --> 00:48:47,291
All right. Thanks, Johnson.
987
00:48:47,291 --> 00:48:48,558
You know, author.
988
00:48:48,558 --> 00:48:52,696
And again, check out the book at User
Friendly Dot show on our shop page
989
00:48:53,797 --> 00:48:55,065
next week on User Friendly,
990
00:48:55,065 --> 00:48:58,936
we are going to be talking about face
fake hardware or fake software.
991
00:48:58,936 --> 00:49:01,638
That type of a thing.
So join us back here next week.
992
00:49:01,638 --> 00:49:05,042
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993
00:49:05,809 --> 00:49:07,277
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