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Speaker AWelcome to the Own youn Choices on youn Life podcast.
Speaker AI know you are here wanting to change and rewrite your story.
Speaker AYou are desiring to step into the impact that you know you were here to create.
Speaker AI am here to guide you with the proven tools and strategies used by myself and our speakers to support you in taking radical responsibility in your life and learning how to own your choices to change your story.
Speaker AMy name is Marcia Van Winesburg.
Speaker AI am a storytelling business coach, master NLP trainer, speaker, podcaster, and seven times published author.
Speaker AMy clients have found freedom and purpose from overcoming their shame stories and learning how to share them with the world.
Speaker AI am so grateful you are here.
Speaker ALet's get started.
Speaker BWelcome back to the show.
Speaker AI am so thrilled to have this conversation and share this with you with Allura Hollywell.
Speaker AAllura and I had this beautiful, deep conversation, understanding and going all into what is the Consciousness Method.
Speaker AElora is a spiritual awakening mentor and the creator of the Consciousness Method, a framework designed to help high achievers, spiritual seekers, and modern mothers move from burnout and unconscious patterns into emotional sovereignty and conscious living.
Speaker AHer work bridges spiritual insight with practical transformation, guiding people to integrate awareness, self worth, and inner healing into tangible results in daily life.
Speaker AWe went deep, as we typically do on the show, and it was such a beautiful conversation and a reminder of how there are so many of us wanting to open up to seeing the world a different way, thinking and believing and feeling.
Speaker AAnd it really does come down to consciously interrupting, seeing our patterns and learning a new way of being.
Speaker AWelcome to the show today, Allura.
Speaker AI just fascinated with your name.
Speaker ASorry, I'm so grateful to have you here.
Speaker BOh, my absolute pleasure, Marcia.
Speaker BAnd the name is a little bit fascinating.
Speaker BIt's actually not my birth name.
Speaker AOh, it's not?
Speaker AOkay, tell me more.
Speaker BYeah, after I had the level of transformation I had, which was such a deep core identity level transformation, I was kind of given a new name in meditation and I was like, are you sure that's the right name?
Speaker BCan we pick something else?
Speaker BAnd it was really clear over and over again.
Speaker BSo that name's come through as being the name that I, that I am at this point in my experience.
Speaker BAnd changing my name to that was pretty intense because it took a lot to break a lot of the identity constructs of, you know, who I was, who I was expected to be, and honoring my birth name and my parents, but also honoring the choice to be the sovereign being that I am and, and being able to take that name and move forward with it.
Speaker BSo it holds a lot of resonance for me.
Speaker BMy.
Speaker BThat name.
Speaker AOh, that's beautiful.
Speaker AI love that you talked about the resistance that you felt from, you know, others.
Speaker AAnd we're going to dive into your story.
Speaker AI'm just curious on this piece with your name, the resistance you felt from others as well as maybe even yourself, did you have moments of like, am I actually gonna go change it too?
Speaker ALike, is this what I'm gonna do?
Speaker AUm, what was that time like?
Speaker BYeah, it was because there was so much deep level change occurring within me, within the structure of how I was relating to my relationships, to my identity, as I mentioned, to what I was here to do, I suppose, activation on all levels.
Speaker BAnd that was just the icing on the cake.
Speaker BAnd it was almost like at that period, I was being pushed to go beyond any limitations that were holding me to a version of myself that wasn't fully aligned.
Speaker BAnd to be able to come up and tell people, you know, my ex husband at the time and my family and people around me to say, I am going to change my name.
Speaker BThere was a lot of pushback.
Speaker BThey were like, hold on a minute.
Speaker BAre you crazy?
Speaker BWhy would you change your name?
Speaker BThis is like, we just take a name and we have that name our whole lives.
Speaker BAnd I was like, well, the identity that I am encompassing and being right now feels very aligned to this, to this frequency that is held in this name.
Speaker BAnd it was really, I think the tuning into that part of yourself when you're like, this is where you need to go sometimes it's easy to not listen to that, right?
Speaker BAnd go, you know what?
Speaker BI don't want to go there.
Speaker BThat's too hard, too tough.
Speaker BBut that was actually a really big piece in my awakening to keep going to the places I didn't want to go.
Speaker AMm.
Speaker AI always believe that we get these taps and nudges and nudges and nudges, and all of a sudden it's like, no, you're not listening.
Speaker AWe're, like, gonna smack you right upside the head.
Speaker ALike, there are times, especially if you're connected.
Speaker AHave you always been very in tune?
Speaker AConnected spiritually?
Speaker AI'm gonna guess no, but from the look on your face.
Speaker ABut I'm just curious.
Speaker BYeah, no, it's such a great question.
Speaker BNo, I think I've always been a sensitive thing, so I've always.
Speaker BAnd I think the sensitivity from a young age has probably bought a lot of pain for me, because growing up, and I'm sure a lot of those listeners and maybe yourself can tune in with that that sensitivity brings you a really deep awareness of life, but also a kind of a trapped feeling.
Speaker BSo I lived most of my life feeling super sensitive, super overwhelmed by everything around me, but not really knowing how to navigate it.
Speaker BSo then, you know, the suppression comes in and you try to conform to make life what you think it should be to feel safe because you're feeling so unsafe in yourself.
Speaker BSo my life was pretty traditional and trying to follow along with the rules of conduct to try and get, get me to a place where I felt okay, but everything just felt a little bit off until I became more aware of who I, I really am.
Speaker BAnd that journey was painful, to be honest, to really come into that awareness.
Speaker BBut on the flip of that, it's just being the most liberating, powerful awareness to have.
Speaker AYeah, thank you for sharing.
Speaker ACan you take us back to what life was like before this moment so that people can get a, a sense of what it felt like and how it felt?
Speaker ALike.
Speaker ALike.
Speaker ANo, I'm being forced on this journey right now and I'm being asked to listen.
Speaker BSo for me, I, I wasn't in, I wouldn't say I was in a, like a true kind of trauma zone when this happened, but I was in a very suppressed zone.
Speaker BSo I was the mum of three and still am the mum of three beautiful children at that point, four, six and eight.
Speaker BAnd a part of my coding was that I was just obsessed with my children to the point of being very highly anxious and overwhelmed with being a mum and having separation anxiety when they'd go to daycare, feeling like I couldn't really do everything in the right way to make them feel okay.
Speaker BAnd subsequently they were feeling anxious and I was seeing them begin to develop different coping mechanisms to deal with my anxiety.
Speaker BAnd that was even more traumatizing because I was like, oh my gosh, I'm screwing up my kids and it's really intense.
Speaker BAnd at the same time I had very dysregulated husband who was emotionally just not able to, to be present in any form.
Speaker BAnd that stress, I think was a big piece on me because of my unloved wounding.
Speaker BI was just wanting to placate, I was wanting to soothe, I was wanting to create this white picket fence life.
Speaker BBut the pressure on me and my soul was just immense.
Speaker BAnd growing up always trying to seek love outside of myself, to try to feel safe within myself had being a driving force.
Speaker BSo I wouldn't say there was anything on a really like high trauma level.
Speaker BIt was just low grade, constant pressure on Me to.
Speaker BTo create something that felt safe around me, but feeling completely disconnected and unsafe inside of me.
Speaker AMm.
Speaker AThank you so much for sharing that.
Speaker AThat is something that I have really explored over the last few years, really going down the work with NLP and subconscious work and understanding.
Speaker ASomebody said about inner safety and when you have not spent any time, like, I spent most of my life in my head and disconnected, so I didn't understand inner safety.
Speaker AIt kind of felt soft, like I was like, what do you mean, inner safety?
Speaker ALike, I don't get that.
Speaker AAnd the more I explored, it was like, oh, it is a core need.
Speaker ALike, it's a core desire to feel the grounded in safety.
Speaker AAnd when we have that safety, then we can go do like more or different things in our life, but we have to believe that we're okay with ourselves.
Speaker BI could not agree more.
Speaker BAnd I thought that safety came from regulation and kind of going in and sort of being all loving to self and enough for self.
Speaker BBut actually what I found was the biggest inner safety work I had to do was getting really safe with the pain that I had, really safe with the fear that I had, really safe with the parts of myself that I really struggled to accept.
Speaker BAnd through stretching myself internally to be safe in those parts that I was trying to reject, I created this sort of internal world where instead of trying to move away from my pain or always being reacting to the kind of construct of my fear that created all these limitations and overwhelm, I was able to meet those places and stretch through them.
Speaker BAnd that created a lot of expansion within me, to actually feel safe within me.
Speaker BAnd that.
Speaker BThat for me was a really pivotal moment because I spent a lot of time sort of post awakening, trying to find a modality that could soothe me and make me feel okay in myself.
Speaker BBut it was only when I broke through all those kind of layered experiences that I was trying to avoid internally that I began to feel more safety inside.
Speaker AThank you for sharing it the way that you did, because I know people can search for, like, the thing, the modality, to help you feel.
Speaker AAnd again, that still comes external, right?
Speaker AThat's still something external.
Speaker AAnd so what you're saying is, is that you had to come to a space where you could face, recognize, see the pain, get familiar with it, understand, not build a judgment piece about it either.
Speaker AIs that.
Speaker AIs that correct?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI see pain as a portal.
Speaker BAnd pure pain as a sensation within the body is something that I believe as humans, we need to develop an understanding about what that is and how that Feels and how to navigate that in a way that we feel clear on what we're doing.
Speaker BBecause the suppression of pain and the over activation of pain, where you just act out through your pain, those two modes of the nervous system are actually protecting a deeper level of pain in the body.
Speaker BThat when you get to know pain as a portal, it's actually an energetic and emotional gateway that we can open within the body.
Speaker BSo I work a lot with people, educating them and helping them feel supported to know that pain is real and it's a safe place to go in your body.
Speaker BBut you need to acclimatize yourself to the sensation of pain.
Speaker BThe story we tell about our pain will often be the protective illusion or way that we kind of package up that pain so it feels safe to us.
Speaker BBut it's always a sensation in the body that we need to meet and begin to transverse.
Speaker BAnd when we can meet that in such a profound way that we realize that is a connective space.
Speaker BSo instead of pain being a space where we move out of and we go, we don't want to go there because it's too much, we go into the pain.
Speaker BThat's when I see the most radical liberation in people.
Speaker BBecause they no longer fear their own pain.
Speaker ANo longer fear your own pain.
Speaker AHow long did it take you to get to that point and did you almost stumble into that?
Speaker AHow did you know that was the direction you were meant to go?
Speaker BSo when I had my awakening, I had like a near death experience where I left my body and I left my body spontaneously.
Speaker BThere was no drugs, there was no plant medicine, there was no bodily trauma.
Speaker BI literally was at a meditation retreat, I fell over on the beach and my consciousness disengaged from my body.
Speaker BI went through the white light which people talk about when they die.
Speaker BAnd then I merged with what felt like the void or the all or this just infinite darkness that was filled with everything.
Speaker BI was back to source and I, I, I experienced that with a level of consciousness where I could just hold onto a thread because I was almost at the point of dissolving into nothing.
Speaker BThat experience and coming back into my body changed the way I perceived this reality.
Speaker BIt was almost like the blinkers had been taken off and I began to see the construct of reality.
Speaker BAnd I began to ask these very deep questions because sort of being incepted back into this world, leaving and coming back in and then awakening with this vast connection, I was going, why?
Speaker BWhy is my nervous system running in these wounds?
Speaker BWhy have I got all this stored pain in My body that I fear so deeply.
Speaker BWhy am I looping on these behaviors and patterns and not able to get out?
Speaker BSo that initiated a huge inquiry within me.
Speaker BAnd through that the pain work came up when I was so stuck in the loop of saying, there is something that I keep fearing and it's nothing outside of me.
Speaker BThe only thing every human fears, the only thing I fear is my own pain.
Speaker BIf I don't have a deep, resonant relationship with my pain, I will stay stuck for the rest of my life.
Speaker BI'll be avoiding.
Speaker BI'll be choosing behaviors that keep me numbed out.
Speaker BI'll be acting out of the same patterns because I can't find a way through.
Speaker BAnd as soon as I realized that and started to work with pain, it was like levels of consciousness started to open up inside me.
Speaker BBecause what I realized is pain basically suppresses consciousness.
Speaker BSo wherever the pain has been laid in your system, it locks you in to behaviors, ways of thinking, ways of being energetic, design patterns that keep you trapped.
Speaker BSo I suppose for the listeners, you might be able to kind of think of a time in your day where you get triggered by something and you're reacting unconsciously.
Speaker BAnd often at the core of that reaction, there'll be something that has been painful for you in the past that you just feel like this feels like a life and death scenario.
Speaker BI need to react and deal with this because there's something deeper there.
Speaker BThat's the pain.
Speaker BThe pain is beneath that always.
Speaker BSo when we go to the pain, it's like we begin to open up over and over again.
Speaker ASo it's so.
Speaker AI mean, a million questions right now, because my brain just loves this conversation.
Speaker AThe first off, the near death experience, was it scary?
Speaker BIt was terrifying.
Speaker BBecause when I woke up, the actual experience itself wasn't because I was.
Speaker BWhen you connect to Source, when you go through that light, it's like it's home.
Speaker BThis is kind of.
Speaker BThis is like going on holiday, coming to.
Speaker BTo Earth.
Speaker BBut when you're in Source and when you, when you move back through that light, back to the all, that's your natural state.
Speaker BThat's our natural state.
Speaker BSo it's.
Speaker BIt's like being completely at home and completely expanded.
Speaker BAnd in the truth of ourselves, which is that we are energy and consciousness in.
Speaker BIn a physical dimension, having a physical experience.
Speaker BAnd that moment took the fear of death away as well, because I was like, wow, this is just the journey.
Speaker BAnd also it made me really aware that we don't really kind of die, we just go on These incredible, you know, activations.
Speaker BWe.
Speaker BWe come into a physical form, we return, we come back.
Speaker BYou know, we move in space and time in such incredible ways.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BAnd kind of was like, oh, we're good.
Speaker BWe're here to experience this.
Speaker BAnd it's powerful to have this opportunity.
Speaker AThat is a powerful experience when you were there others around you at the time.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo it looked like I was just having a really deep sleep on the beach, to be honest.
Speaker BThere were people around me when I woke up because I think I'd been out much longer than everyone else and everyone had finished meditating.
Speaker BThey were like, what's going on with her?
Speaker BAnd as I came back to my body, it was interesting.
Speaker BThe experience that brought me back was that I touched a frequency of love when I was out.
Speaker BAnd I remember touching that frequency of pure, unconditional love.
Speaker BAnd that brought me back to this dimension.
Speaker BAnd that also showed me that this is meant to be a loving dimension because we can't actually experience love unless there's a degree of separation.
Speaker BWe need something slightly separate from the other thing to be able to have the frequency of love vibrate between it.
Speaker BSo I was like, oh, wow.
Speaker BWe have to.
Speaker BWe can't be in source to experience that truth of that love.
Speaker BWe have to be in a dimension when there's a degree of separation.
Speaker BSo I woke up on the beach and my eyes opened and I.
Speaker BEverything was energy.
Speaker BSo I didn't.
Speaker BCouldn't see things as fixed and physical.
Speaker BEverything was tiny little particles vibrating.
Speaker BSo I looked at the sky, and it was completely luminescent and vibrating.
Speaker BThe beach, the water.
Speaker BI looked at plants.
Speaker BIt looked like an avatar where every little cell of the plant was vibrating.
Speaker BBut then I looked in the mirror and I had a trauma response because I was like, oh, my God, I'm in a human body.
Speaker BI don't know why I'm here.
Speaker BI don't know who I am.
Speaker BI'd had a level of amnesia where basically I couldn't really truly identify myself.
Speaker BAnd then I'd had a big, energetic awakening.
Speaker BSo I started to vibrate.
Speaker BAnd that was like a. I kind of refer to it now as a Kundalini awakening.
Speaker BPeople know that word where I was vibrating constantly because it was like being plugged into a power socket, planetary power socket.
Speaker BSo I think what had happened is because I'd become more energy than matter.
Speaker BI just still was energy in my body.
Speaker BSo my nervous system and my brain and all my senses were trying to orientate to such a vast experience.
Speaker AYeah, it's Almost like you calibrate and then you're not calibrated.
Speaker AEverything is, is, is so interesting.
Speaker AHow was the response to people in your life at the time?
Speaker AI know you just spoke a little bit about it, but I'm just curious because you all of a sudden feel like you have, you know, this vastly different internal representation of the world around you.
Speaker AAnd you might feel like this power source, this energy of like, wow, this is amazing.
Speaker AAnd I can just picture what some of the reception was.
Speaker AAnd how did you navigate that time?
Speaker BOh, it was the most difficult thing I've ever done.
Speaker BI mean, I just, I came out of the room afterwards and I stumbled to like, someone took me to breakfast and I kind of picked things off the buffet and sat down and I didn't really know who to sit with.
Speaker BCause I couldn't, I couldn't recognize anyone, but people were like, come and sit here.
Speaker BAnd apparently they were my 10 year long friends.
Speaker BAnd I sat down and they're like, are you okay?
Speaker BAnd I'm like, I'm not sure if I'm okay.
Speaker BAnd they're like, what are you doing?
Speaker BAnd they looked at my plate and I was like, what?
Speaker BI'm.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BAnd they're like, you don't eat meat.
Speaker BAnd I'd had this.
Speaker BI'd picked up a sausage or something and popped it on my plate and I was like, oh, I don't eat meat.
Speaker BThe identity of me, the preference of me had just dissolved.
Speaker BI didn't have a preference.
Speaker BI didn't have this set identity.
Speaker BSo it was really intense.
Speaker BAnd particularly coming home, I looked at my beautiful children.
Speaker BI was like, I know that I love you and you belong to me, but I can't understand how it came to be that we're here in this moment.
Speaker BSo that was a really big shift that happened with my kids because there was a really deep grief around that, to be honest, because I had to.
Speaker BThis kind of awakening journey that was so extreme took me into a place where I was almost shut off from the world for quite a period of time where I was having to integrate.
Speaker BSo my beautiful kids were like, where are you, mom?
Speaker BAnd I was like, I just wasn't there in the same way.
Speaker BWe ended up divorcing because I looked at my ex husband now and I was like, I'm not sure who you are.
Speaker BI'm so sorry.
Speaker BI don't know why we're in this relationship.
Speaker BMm.
Speaker BIt was a big.
Speaker BIt was a massive price on my human experience and a massive reconfiguration And I just want to spoiler alert.
Speaker BLike, my children and I are the tightest we've ever been.
Speaker BThey're incredible kids.
Speaker BThey're very, very grounded, beautiful kids.
Speaker BAnd they're 15, 13 and 11 now.
Speaker BAnd my ex husband's just about to have a baby with a beautiful woman and we all go on holidays together.
Speaker BUm, so like we've.
Speaker BAnd that was a big piece in the reconciliation because after that fracture, my core focus was when I kind of got it back enough, my consciousness back enough in my body.
Speaker BI was like, I can't do anything until my lived relationships are in the right place.
Speaker BI cannot help anyone else until I've healed all this myself.
Speaker BI cannot just abandon these people to have this awakening and then go and serve a lot of strangers.
Speaker BI need my home life to be completely healed.
Speaker BAnd it took time to sit with my children and to sit with them and work through that abandonment space and to have that blip and that understanding that in evolution, in our human evolution, there is going to be change, identities will change, situations will change.
Speaker BAnd to be honest, they've come through in a beautiful, resilient way.
Speaker BBut that was a core priority for me to make sure that they were, they were good.
Speaker AThank you for sharing that.
Speaker AThere's so many things that I can, I resonate with.
Speaker AI just think that, you know, we have to be in a space where it's not that our life has to be perfect and solved and done, but we have to be good with where we are before we think to go out and serve other people.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI really do believe that too.
Speaker AI think that we have to be.
Speaker AWe can still be in a story, we can still be in a.
Speaker AWe have to feel good about that.
Speaker AThe other piece that is just landing for me, I know my kids are older and I've walked through different things, but I remember having this like, a few of them different higher power, higher spirit awakening moments where I really started to recognize that, like, if I believe that I have a spirit that is meant to be here and has come here to learn things and, and, and live a life, then I also believe that my kids have as well and they have a purpose and they have a.
Speaker AAnd it might not make any sense to me sometimes yet it's not my job.
Speaker AI know when our kids are younger, sometimes we see them as the like, attachment to us and almost this, you know, I, I still struggle sometimes where I hear that and it's like, well, they've done so well.
Speaker ALike, great job, mom.
Speaker AAnd I'm Like, I wish we wouldn't do that.
Speaker AAnd personally.
Speaker ABut that's just my own.
Speaker AMy own thought process, because I do believe that we're all walking a journey, and I think we just have people in our path that are serving different purposes.
Speaker BOh, I could not agree more.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd we're creating the exact construct around us that serves our evolution.
Speaker BUnfortunately, though, we kind of get stuck in feeling like we're a victim to reality a lot of the time, that the people around us aren't the ones we need, that we're stuck in circumstances that we feel like we can't quite get out of.
Speaker BAnd that's been a really important journey as well, to support people, to understand the power of personal evolution through any level of adversity, which looks like taking the thing that is external to you, which will be reflecting a part of you that needs a radical level of support.
Speaker BAnd that thing is not happening to you because you deserve it or because you've done anything wrong.
Speaker BIt's trying to serve you, to show you an external pattern that you can look at within yourself.
Speaker BAnd when you realize that, you can shift the internal template that will create for you another level of reality.
Speaker BAnd this is not manifestation.
Speaker BThis is not.
Speaker BI'm just going to imagine something different.
Speaker BIt's working on the deepest levels of your pain, your fear, your consciousness, to stretch your nervous system and to stretch what you're expecting from the reality around you.
Speaker BAnd often that works tough.
Speaker BYou have to break with the pattern that you have found to be safe.
Speaker BBecause most of the things that we're putting up with are things we're expecting and things that feel known and things that feel, you know, we've been coded to expect them from childhood.
Speaker BYou know, the level of, you know, dysregulation, the level of not feeling loved, the level of not feeling enough, the level of not feeling seen or heard or understood.
Speaker BThat's being coded in us.
Speaker BAnd it takes a bit for us to recognize that and go, you know what?
Speaker BThat's no longer okay for me.
Speaker BAnd I'm going to work on that from the inside out, and that's going to shift the reality.
Speaker BAnd feeling empowered to do that is super important for me.
Speaker BAnd this work.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AMm.
Speaker AI love everything we're talking about.
Speaker AAnd I want to say, like, what if somebody's listening to this and they're like, okay, that sounds like it's all up here.
Speaker AAnd I don't know what.
Speaker ALike, I don't even know what that means or how do I do that in my Own life.
Speaker ASo how did you get from those experiences to being in a space of, like, supporting others on this journey?
Speaker AWhat does that journey look like?
Speaker BWell, the journey for me meant finding.
Speaker BIt turned out to be 12 pieces of how to reconfigure your internal reality to receive a different external reality, and 12 processes to be able to do that.
Speaker BAnd that was the way that it was shown to me, the design of reality, and then also how to work with the design of reality.
Speaker BSo when I say the design of reality, we're humans, and we're in this kind of fishbowl of an experience all around us.
Speaker BAnd when I came back, I was like, I don't know whether we really understand the mechanism of how we move in reality, how things appear in our realities, how we shift our realities on sort of deeper levels.
Speaker BSo what I wanted to decode was how do we work to move things around that feel stuck?
Speaker BHow do we move relationships?
Speaker BHow do we move patterns on the deeper level?
Speaker BSo the 12 processes that I developed, and one of them is the pain portal.
Speaker BYou know, we've got the stretching of the nervous system.
Speaker BWe've got.
Speaker BYou know, I could run through them all, but they wouldn't mean much to the listeners right now.
Speaker BBut they're 12 processes that allow us to actually meet the whole version of ourselves.
Speaker BAnd the thing that I love about it is, is that it's not about me.
Speaker BIt's about the understanding internally.
Speaker BBecause when you see this part of yourself, and that's what was so profound for me, the consciousness.
Speaker BNot just the.
Speaker BThe behavioral stuff or the emotional stuff or the mental stuff, I realized the only way we could really move was via moving consciousness.
Speaker BSo my pure focus was how do we move the consciousness?
Speaker BBecause the consciousness is attached to the reality we're experiencing.
Speaker BSo going through these processes, I've watched people time and time again shift their consciousness and shift their reality.
Speaker BAnd that's where I found real change for me personally to come through.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThank you for sharing.
Speaker AI still.
Speaker AI know I want to.
Speaker AI'm being called to go back to this.
Speaker AI'm just going to trust myself.
Speaker APain suppresses consciousness.
Speaker AI think there's something there that also.
Speaker AAnd correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm also trying to understand.
Speaker APain suppresses consciousness.
Speaker AIs that by, like, not wanting to deal with the pain that it is, suppressing it?
Speaker ALike, is it the pain itself or is it our avoidance of the pain?
Speaker BIt's a combination.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BAnd say, for example, you.
Speaker BI'm just trying to think of a quick Example, say I am working with someone that has this sense of impending failure.
Speaker BLike they don't want to try anything new, because if they try something new, there's this really deep, profound fear that they will fail in that.
Speaker BSo I actually had a woman on the call yesterday, went walk through the process with this exact one.
Speaker BAnd she went back and she reviewed her whole life, all the moments where she'd been on the precipice of something coming through.
Speaker BAnd her not being able to do that because she was like, oh my God, I'm going to fail.
Speaker BAnd she did a full life review, and then she could see the patterning over and over and over again.
Speaker BShe realized through that awareness that at the very, very core of that was a very deep unworthiness that arose from her father's sudden death when she was 18 months old.
Speaker BAnd the stored cellular pain in her body had basically created a block that had meant that her capacity to move out of that survival mode because the pain was so great, even though it was unconscious, even though she was only 18 months, it was stored in her cellular system, in her nervous system, in her mental system, in her emotional system.
Speaker BSo instead of being able to stretch through into that space, she kept hitting that wall and coming back to protect the pain because the fear of going beyond that was greater than touching that pain.
Speaker BAnd for her particular case, the pain was unconscious because it was hidden in that pre verbal, really early era that her consciousness was trapped at 18 months where she hadn't had a chance to process the core grief of losing her father.
Speaker BSo from that she went through and she did our first process, which is she reclaimed her energy from all the times where she felt like she couldn't move forward because failure was imminent.
Speaker BAnd then she touched into the very core wound of I don't feel enough, I feel unworthy.
Speaker BAnd she cracked that pain portal and felt the depths of what that grief was like in her body now, the grief she never felt when she was 18 months old.
Speaker BShe held herself consciously as her body processed that, and then from there her consciousness shifted completely.
Speaker BShe basically saw the whole design pattern.
Speaker BShe came on the call and she was like, oh my God, I don't feel like the same human because I see where this is all originated, how it, where it's come from.
Speaker BAnd I had goosebumps because I was like, oh my God, you've cracked open the wound that's held you hostage to that timeline.
Speaker BAnd now the consciousness is free that, yes, you're going to have moments where you're going to Experiment with that threshold and go, oh, I, I think the failure thresholds here that it's not going to ever have the same density because you're going to be like, oh, that's actually just where that wound lies.
Speaker BAnd I can stretch my nervous system beyond that and do that thing anyway because I'm safe with that pain.
Speaker BHmm.
Speaker AThank you for sharing this.
Speaker AThis is a, it's, it's a slightly different language and yet I can relate to it in different ways.
Speaker AWe do a lot with NLP and subconscious work and you know when you real and timeline work, when you can get to the root of what that stuck emotion is and people go out, I don't know what the root is.
Speaker AI'm like, that's because you're consciously trying to find it.
Speaker AYou can't do it that way.
Speaker AIt has to come the other way.
Speaker ABut when you can actually get to the root of it, it's, it's always, I have found personally, it's always surprising.
Speaker AI'm like, really?
Speaker AThat's the root.
Speaker AI like, why did I even.
Speaker AI had a client just take me, one of my past students, take me through some timeline work today.
Speaker AAnd so it was fascinating to experience it as a client.
Speaker AAnd all of a sudden memories are popping up of like a house I used to live in and where I was.
Speaker AI could see the walls, I could see the.
Speaker AIt's just you can't consciously change that.
Speaker ABut when you can work from the root, it can change everything in the reverse direction.
Speaker BIt's similar because we're unlocking and we're going like, we're going there.
Speaker BWe want to go to the pain, so we don't want to avoid it, numb it.
Speaker BWe want to actually go.
Speaker BAnd often people are like, I don't want to go back and feel my trauma.
Speaker BBut you're not actually going back and feeling your trauma because you're actually just letting the body have the natural release that it's always been wanting to have.
Speaker BAnd when you understand, I think the pain is being a sensation based experience and that you can hold yourself safely even though you feel like you're going to die.
Speaker BBecause this is the thing, most people, when they touch that pain point, they're like, I don't want to go there.
Speaker BI feel like I'm going to die.
Speaker BAnd that was a big teaching for me, that dying to the limited self, which is another process we do, is such an important part of our releasing ourselves.
Speaker BBecause the dying is the illusion.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BAnd that's what I got shown.
Speaker BIt's like you're just going to another level of consciousness, but the body and the nervous system goes, no, I need to stay safe and I need to stay limited in, in the known.
Speaker BSo having the understanding about why we're doing that frees you because you're like, actually, I'm just dying to the limited version.
Speaker BI'm not dying.
Speaker BDying and having the support to do that's really important.
Speaker AOh, that is absolutely gold what you just said.
Speaker ADying to the limited version of you.
Speaker ABecause it's, I, I.
Speaker AOne of the things I was always taught is this like whatever limitation you fight for, you get to keep.
Speaker ASo if I'm gonna fight for like, I, like, this is who I am and this is, this is what I feel.
Speaker AAnd that, that's a real fear and I can't go there.
Speaker AWell, the more you fight for it, the more you get to keep it.
Speaker ASo like it's, there are times I'm like, oh, do you want to keep that one, Marsha?
Speaker AAnd I'm like, nope, I actually don't.
Speaker ASo, okay, let's change the way that we're doing it.
Speaker ASo like, when did the concept idea of a book start to come into place?
Speaker BOh, I think it happened from the very beginning.
Speaker BI was like, there's something here.
Speaker BI just, I, I was aware that there was something there.
Speaker BAnd I think for everyone that goes through something like this, and I'm sure lots of your listeners have, as well as have yourself when you get shown something.
Speaker BAnd for me, there's nothing else to be doing.
Speaker BLike, this work is not, it's not a job, it's not something I do kind of part time.
Speaker BLike my consciousness is always engaged in the understanding and the exploration.
Speaker BAnd so just writing the book was a no brainer, even though it was a lot of work.
Speaker BAnd actually we finished the manuscript yesterday.
Speaker AOh, did you really?
Speaker BA hundred percent done.
Speaker BSo it's going to the printer.
Speaker BAmazing.
Speaker ACongratulations.
Speaker B21St of January, it is complete.
Speaker BAlmost seven years after the experience that I had on the beach.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BBut I think that's perfect timing.
Speaker ASo, yeah, tell us about the book, what the name is, and congratulations because honestly, I hope you took a really good moment to just pause and say, this is real, like, this is done.
Speaker BYeah, I, yeah, I have, I've been like, yep, okay, we're complete.
Speaker BThat cycle is, that cycle's complete.
Speaker BAnd I'm grateful for that.
Speaker BAnd the next level of consciousness is coming through, so I'm excited for that too.
Speaker BBut the book is called Unloved, Unworthy, Unknown, and These are the three portals of awakening in my mind that every human has a version of feeling unloved, unworthy, and unknown and unknown.
Speaker BI define as feeling unseen, misunderstood, unheard, or unsafe.
Speaker BSo either one of those unknown, say.
Speaker BSay the unknown again, misunderstood, unheard, or unseen, or the unknown can also be the feeling of being unsafe.
Speaker BSo that there's either one of those is in the design of the unknown.
Speaker BWound can come through, and then we know unloved and unworthy.
Speaker BBut a lot of people have the unknown wound and haven't really recognized that it's a big one.
Speaker BSo those three wounds, I see them as I call them wounds, but they're actually just design patterns of humanity.
Speaker BWe come into a default pattern of being a human, whereby we just had these separation points where we define our existence around these three pillars until we get to a point of understanding what those three pillars are and the gateways they are to return to the truth of ourselves and no humans without them.
Speaker BWhen I understood that, I was like, wow, these patterns are very important, and they're the ones that cause us to separate from the true version of ourselves, to try to manipulate, manage, structure the reality around us, to make it feel safe, to make it feel okay.
Speaker BThat if I get that person to love me, if I get that validation from work, if I get the validation of being a good mom, if I get the validation that someone's finally understood me, if I can feel safe at last, if I have enough money, if I have enough, you know, support, all these things we're trying to shore up around us are just ways of repeating those patterns.
Speaker BAnd the book goes into how we do this on the deepest, energetic levels, behavioral levels, thought patterns, emotional patterns, and actually how to go through the processes.
Speaker BSo I share a lot of the processes that I work with within that book.
Speaker AAmazing.
Speaker AAnd so the Consciousness Method that is.
Speaker AIs that.
Speaker ACall your method, but your method you have created.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAmazing.
Speaker ASo when does your book come out?
Speaker BNext month.
Speaker BOh, it's okay.
Speaker ASo it's like.
Speaker AIt's close.
Speaker AAmazing.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BIt'll be.
Speaker BIt'll be out.
Speaker BIt'll be on Amazon, and if you just search unloved, unworthy, unknown, you'll be able to find it.
Speaker AOkay, Amazing.
Speaker AThat is going to come out before this episode does, but I will make sure I share it, and we'll make sure we have links there as well.
Speaker AYou also have a podcast, do you not?
Speaker BYes, it's called the Consciousness Method, and it's basically just interviewing all the people that have gone through the method.
Speaker BAnd had life changing shifts.
Speaker BSo looking and just chatting about that and why that's important to me is because so many incredible humans are just opening these gates of consciousness and opening new lives.
Speaker BAnd for me, that's the most inspiring thing.
Speaker BSo it's just a podcast of all the beautiful people that are doing the work, which is fascinating to hear, actually.
Speaker BLots of stories of overcoming so many things.
Speaker AI was gonna ask you that if you had a story that you could share of somebody who had overcome something, just something that stands out, like one of your favorites where you're like, oh, I mean, I just.
Speaker BOh my gosh, that's the hardest question because like, daily I'm witnessing people.
Speaker BI mean, the things that I find are most potent are the people that come to me and say, I can't have this relationship with my parents or my kids.
Speaker BIt's, they're done, it's done.
Speaker BAnd that work where we completely reconfigure the family system from within that person is just astonishing to watch.
Speaker BAnd what I see is the sort of the wave of this work, the person doing that work, the wave flows on through the field to so many loved ones around them.
Speaker BAnd I've witnessed parents come back into connection, children come in, you know, ex partners that have been, you know, difficult custody cases.
Speaker BLike we've avoided multi, hundreds of thousands of dollars of worth of custody battles because we've worked on the core of things.
Speaker BWe've reunited so many families.
Speaker BIt's been profound to witness.
Speaker BAnd that's really important to me to have those foundational relationships healthy.
Speaker BNot to say it's always about reuniting, but often there's a place there to close the separation.
Speaker BThen I've seen so many incredible humans, like move off medications for physical ailments and depression and anxiety because they've processed the core of their pain.
Speaker BThey're beginning to come alive again.
Speaker BPeople that have like, you know, autism or adhd, that are processing on deeper levels and finding new levels of expression.
Speaker BUm, so people that are in those, you know, dark places of feeling really stuck and knowing that there's a path forward.
Speaker BAnd then just people that are wanting purpose and just initiating it through the relationship to themselves and going, oh my God, my purpose is right here.
Speaker BAnd it's always been here.
Speaker BIt's just I've had to form that relationship with myself to receive it.
Speaker BAnd then of course there's a super, like the more playful stuff, like people have manifested like their dream homes, their dream partners.
Speaker BI've got like a couple of weddings coming up because people have met the love of their lives, which, like, always makes me excited.
Speaker BAnd, you know, new careers where they've made, you know, like doubled their income because they've cleared that part of them.
Speaker BSo I. I just would have to say that anything is possible because everything comes back to this same formula of shifting this space and shifting consciousness.
Speaker BYou shift the consciousness, you get a new level of reality.
Speaker BIt's inevitable.
Speaker BSo I don't feel like there's anything that's not possible to work with.
Speaker BYeah, I.
Speaker AThere's.
Speaker ASorry, I just had to write that down.
Speaker ABecause it shifts the consciousness and then you, like, achieve a new level of reality.
Speaker AIt's basically it's.
Speaker BAnd it's.
Speaker AIs it.
Speaker AIf we look at it this way, it's a reality that's been there, that's been available.
Speaker AYou just haven't allowed yourself access to it.
Speaker BYeah, it's a resonance.
Speaker BSo your inner template is creating the relationship to reality.
Speaker BAnd I think everyone's felt that, like when you're feeling really great, you know, and you go out into the world and you have things just come up that feel really beautiful and the resonance is there that kind of on steroids, because you've shifted your whole being and you're just getting a whole new level of things coming through.
Speaker AI love everything about this and I'm also.
Speaker AI want to ask you this question before I go to one more question.
Speaker AIs this piece that.
Speaker AMy understanding from what you're saying too is, is that, say, for example, I chose to do this deep work with you, that I don't have to have everyone in my life doing this deep work with me in order for all of us to experience something.
Speaker AI. I just wanted to make sure that part was clear.
Speaker BYeah, of course.
Speaker BSo what happens is, and I'll give an example of a mum that was having a cha.
Speaker BLike challenges with her daughter.
Speaker BAnd what was happening was that her daughter was reflecting the part of herself that she actually hadn't come to terms with because of the trauma she'd experienced with her parents.
Speaker BSo the way she was responding to her daughter in the way she was trying to control her, and then the daughter was pushing back and then she was judging that behavior and saying, oh, that was not.
Speaker BThat's not good.
Speaker BAnd all the rest of it was causing this massive fracture between her and her daughter, who she loved dearly, but she just could not relate to.
Speaker BSo the deeper work we did took us way back to the root of her own relationship, to the version of her that was mistreated.
Speaker BAnd the unsafety around that and how she was then seeing her daughter as a threat to her safety because she didn't have that inner stability.
Speaker BSo she shifted that internally.
Speaker BAnd just naturally she started to show up differently with her daughter because this is not about behavioral stuff.
Speaker BIt's not about being like, oh, I'm going to go and be a better mom, because that's all just false.
Speaker BLike you can never sustain that because it's not coming from a deep core place.
Speaker BIt's just a facade.
Speaker BAnd kids feel that as well.
Speaker BSo she began to shift internally and then she was responding to her daughter differently because she was responding from the place of safety and this kind of deep compassion for herself in a similar mirrored situation.
Speaker BAnd that was just coming through her because the pain she'd stored from her childhood had been tapped into and released.
Speaker BSo her daughter showed up in a different way.
Speaker BHer daughter was like, oh, I feel safer to be with you.
Speaker BAnd so her, the version of her she was receiving was another version.
Speaker BAnd what happens is we go into these wound bonds where we give the person we're with the version of us that's going to evolve them, usually until we see the evolution and then we move through to the next level where we don't need to keep triggering, activating each other because we've actually resolved that internally.
Speaker BSo that's one of the ways.
Speaker BAnother way is that whole family systems can heal because the person that's been creating the challenge in the system is often the sensitive one.
Speaker BSo when they feel safer within themselves, there's not so much conflict going on around them because they've created safety and they don't have to keep perpetuating that.
Speaker BI've seen that quite a lot as well.
Speaker BAnd whole systems move.
Speaker BAnd then I have partners coming to do the work and parents.
Speaker BI have a couple of like mother daughter combos doing the work at the moment.
Speaker BAnd then I have a divorced couple.
Speaker BThey've both come to do the work independently because the ex partner has seen such a big shift in his ex wife.
Speaker BAnd he's like, oh my God, I want in on that.
Speaker BAnd it's better for their daughter.
Speaker BRight, so exactly, exactly.
Speaker AI love that.
Speaker AThank you for sharing that because I think sometimes like the whole family has to be on board for something.
Speaker AAnd I, from what I was interpreting, what you're saying is, no, it doesn't actually have to be like that.
Speaker AAnd I think that hopefully gives people a lot more hope of what they can do.
Speaker AOkay, so a loaded question as you're talking all about consciousness and how we are, you know, leading ourselves and facing the pain and being in this space and using that as the portal.
Speaker AHow do we stay in tune with that and not be, not hurt?
Speaker ABut compared to like what's happening in the world right now, like there is just.
Speaker AI'm just curious because it gets really easy to squash those parts of ourselves cuz it feels like it is actually not safe to allow ourselves to be seen.
Speaker AI know that's probably one of the number one things I hear people come into my world is like I want to be seen.
Speaker ABut I, I don't know how to now add to that the sometimes volatility of what's happening.
Speaker AHow can we continue to support ourselves when this is some of the things that we're seeing in the world?
Speaker BI love this question because I could not agree more in the challenge in that.
Speaker BAnd I've worked intensively through that.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThat's been a really big piece for me.
Speaker BThe interface between your internal expression and the pressure of the external world around you.
Speaker BThe pressure of all the things I.
Speaker BWhat I would say again is what you've just referred to.
Speaker BThere is the unknown wounding that it doesn't feel safe to see the version of self.
Speaker BAnd there will be some deeper fractal which is a deeper reflection that's going on within the being.
Speaker BAnd it's actually creating an addiction to keep seeing where there's threat outside of you.
Speaker BSo you keep cherry picking from reality the places where you don't feel safe.
Speaker BAnd in all honesty, for me personally, I'm highly sensitive, highly aware of other people's pain, highly aware of things going on in the world that feel really unjust and, and not okay for me.
Speaker BWhat I had to do was work deeply within where I would hook into those things to give myself an addictive emotional response that actually just kept me looping in a nervous system state that was not healthy for me.
Speaker BSo I had to reclaim my energy from those things and begin to bring my attention into my inner world and into the concept that I get to change the world via the imprint that I make directly around me.
Speaker BAnd that is the only imprint I can make.
Speaker BBecause if I begin to look that I don't like that thing and I am powerless within that, that is part of the external construct that is here to make us feel less than sovereign, powerful and free.
Speaker BIt's here to make us feel trapped, limited and like a slave basically to the density of the world.
Speaker BAnd I don't want that for anyone.
Speaker BBecause if we have that as our ongoing way of being, we are actually energetically feeding into those programs and patterns instead of feeding into the truth of ourselves.
Speaker BAnd the imprint we can make from being a connected human that has this imprint around us, that is creating this ripple effect around us.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker AThat's beautiful.
Speaker AI know at this point in time, and I realize this episode will air later.
Speaker AI am so fascinated with the Monks that are walking across the States in this in a solidarity for peace.
Speaker AAnd it's not just about the Monks.
Speaker AIt's the like thousands of people that are walking with like, that are with them.
Speaker AAnd to me, it's like, that gives me such a feeling of, like, lots of people want this.
Speaker ALike, there might be your outliers that like thrive in chaos, but there are a lot of people that really do want peace.
Speaker AI do believe that.
Speaker AAnd that's.
Speaker AI know I've been criticized at times for being like, that's just whatever that's like, it makes me happy.
Speaker AI believe that our algorithm, it's a reflection of us.
Speaker AAnd somebody said that, like, what do you do when all of the negativity shows up in the algorithm?
Speaker AIt doesn't because it's full of puppies and monks walking and things that make me feel good.
Speaker ABecause that's what.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AI know that changes my energy, which then changes how I project back out into the world.
Speaker BI love that.
Speaker BAnd we're sovereign, right?
Speaker BLike, we don't have to.
Speaker BWe have this kind of thing of we need to be involved in all the things.
Speaker BBut what I do with the people I work with, I get them to come back to the truth of their experience, which is happening in real time right now.
Speaker BSo it's like, where are you actually living?
Speaker BWhat are your family relationships?
Speaker BLike, what is the quality of the environment around you?
Speaker BLike, where are you showing up in your day to day life?
Speaker BLike, how are you with the lady at the checkout?
Speaker BLike, where are you actually in your energetic center?
Speaker BBecause we're in a digital world, it's so easy to get drawn into things that aren't actually our business on a deeper level.
Speaker BAnd when you know, some people will go, oh, we need to be aware of all these things so we can all the rest of it.
Speaker BBut energetically, what I've seen, unless you are directly involved in something that you can have a sovereign voice in and make an impact in, you're in a victim state to that experience happening out there and stealing your energetic awareness and you not being able to do anything to change that.
Speaker BAnd that creates a version of powerlessness and a nervous system response that brings you into fear.
Speaker BAnd it's just not healthy for anybody to go through that on a daily basis.
Speaker AThank you for going there and thank you for saying that.
Speaker AI needed that message just like everyone else.
Speaker ASo I know how brings us back to our own power, our own voice, and, yeah, that's where we can all continue to make a difference and make a change.
Speaker BYeah, definitely.
Speaker BWe're all radiating the reality we want to experience.
Speaker BAnd I went through that in real time during.
Speaker BAnd just a little side story during the global lockdown, because I made a choice whereby I was not allowed to go into any shops or any public places during that period.
Speaker BAnd what the pressure that put on myself was that I was kind of coerced into this space of feeling trapped.
Speaker BWhat I did was that I liberated my own energy and life force within me and created my own sense of freedom within my own being, which meant it didn't matter the attachment of the outside world.
Speaker BIt mattered how liberated I felt within me.
Speaker BAnd what happened was a timeline that came through where I was liberated and I was free and I was fine.
Speaker BBut I had to do the inside work to overcome the fear of being suppressed.
Speaker BAnd that's just a small example, but we can apply that to any part of our lives where we feel like there's something outside of us that's stopping us from being where we want to go.
Speaker BYou have to free yourself internally first.
Speaker AOh, Elura, you have no idea what you just hit on.
Speaker AAnd that is a really.
Speaker AThat was.
Speaker AWe had similar experiences during the lockdown.
Speaker AWe are in Canada here.
Speaker AWe just had a very similar experience.
Speaker AAnd there became real dividing lines in not just friends, but, like, we lost friends we had.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd it wasn't out of, like, trying to make someone else see something else.
Speaker AIt was just people who didn't agree with me.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd it was really had to get quiet.
Speaker AThat included family.
Speaker AAnd I know firsthand that some of those relationships have never been repaired.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd actually, that's okay because it's not her hard feelings.
Speaker AIt's just that basically that time really did require a lot of grounding and clarity on who I had in my corner at that time.
Speaker ASo I just.
Speaker AI. I know you hit on something.
Speaker AThat was really powerful time.
Speaker BYeah, no, it's.
Speaker BIt was a huge time.
Speaker BAnd there was definitely, you know, an opportunity for everyone in that time to really anchor the timeline they wanted to experience.
Speaker BAnd it was a challenging time.
Speaker BAnd there's also a lot of, you know, stored Pain in that time that probably needs to be, you know, still processed to release that timeline from being something that sticks and creates a loop around it, you know, around us.
Speaker BSo it was a.
Speaker BOne of the most radical evolutionary timelines that we could have stepped through.
Speaker BSo it was a gift, but also, yeah, a massive challenge at the same time.
Speaker BBeautiful.
Speaker AThank you so much for sharing that.
Speaker AI have loved all of our conversation.
Speaker AI want to make sure people know where to connect with you.
Speaker AUm, we will update, make sure the links in the show notes have your book when it comes out.
Speaker AAnything you can share where people can find you and learn more about you.
Speaker BYeah, Allura Halliwell is the place on.
Speaker BJust online and on Instagram.
Speaker BAnd the Consciousness Method podcast is a good place to explore more.
Speaker BAnd, you know, there is space for anyone that wants to do this work.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's definitely something that you're.
Speaker BYou're all welcome to explore and experience.
Speaker BAnd it's something that I'm deeply passionate about bringing to so many.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I'm here and please just feel free to reach out.
Speaker ABeautiful.
Speaker AThank you for everything that you've shared, for your energy, and you have the most beautiful, calming voice that I know is just something that it's.
Speaker AIt's powerful.
Speaker BYou.
Speaker AYour work, you can.
Speaker AYou exude it.
Speaker AYou definitely exude it.
Speaker ASo thank you, thank you, thank you for being here.
Speaker BOh, thank you, Marcia.
Speaker BActually, I've got free meditations on SoundCloud, so if anyone wants to listen to a little bit more of the Voice, it's at Allura on SoundCloud, just to start meditating.
Speaker BThank you so much, Asha.
Speaker BThis experience has been really special for me.
Speaker BAnd to be able to explore these spaces means everything.
Speaker BAnd your questions have been so profound.
Speaker BSo thank you.
Speaker AYou're so welcome.
Speaker AYou're so welcome.
Speaker AMay I ask you one more quick question?
Speaker AIt is.
Speaker AWhat lesson in life are you most grateful for?
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BThat we are actually divine beings.
Speaker BHaving a human experience and being able to learn that that's the truth of us.
Speaker BAnd being able to keep dancing in that space as being the greatest gift.
Speaker ABeautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker AThank you so much.
Speaker AThank you so much.
Speaker AIt was great to have you here.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker BMasha.
Speaker AThank you so much for tuning in to another episode of Own youn Choices, Own youn Life.
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Speaker ARemember.
Speaker AWhen you own your choices, you truly own your life.