1 00:00:03,785 --> 00:00:06,725 Marvin: Hey, folks, it's Marvin Cash, the host of the Articulate Fly, 2 00:00:06,825 --> 00:00:10,205 Marvin: and we're back with another On the Water with Dustin White. Dustin, how are you? 3 00:00:11,925 --> 00:00:13,965 Dustin: Marvin, doing excellent. How are you doing, my friend? 4 00:00:14,205 --> 00:00:16,505 Marvin: Yeah, just trying to stay out of trouble, and you know, you're back. 5 00:00:16,565 --> 00:00:19,125 Marvin: You were like the traveling Matt for Memorial Day weekend, right? 6 00:00:20,065 --> 00:00:23,785 Dustin: Yeah, yeah. I went back for, you know, saw some friends, went to a wedding. 7 00:00:23,785 --> 00:00:27,985 Dustin: And as I got to see a ball game, it kind of blew into town real quick and got 8 00:00:27,985 --> 00:00:29,545 Dustin: right back in the saddle. 9 00:00:29,705 --> 00:00:31,785 Dustin: And yeah, I've been on the water every day since. 10 00:00:32,105 --> 00:00:35,105 Marvin: Yeah, it's interesting, too, because we were talking before we started recording 11 00:00:35,105 --> 00:00:36,905 Marvin: that you were on the road. 12 00:00:36,945 --> 00:00:39,685 Marvin: I think you literally were like, I can record any time. And your Instagram had 13 00:00:39,685 --> 00:00:42,145 Marvin: you sitting up in the upper deck of the ballpark. 14 00:00:44,405 --> 00:00:48,145 Marvin: So we kind of ad-libbed a little bit more than normal. But, you know, 15 00:00:48,145 --> 00:00:50,665 Marvin: one of the things we didn't tell folks is that you've got some patterns that 16 00:00:50,665 --> 00:00:53,905 Marvin: have gotten picked up by OMQA that are in fly shops now. 17 00:00:55,485 --> 00:00:59,165 Dustin: Actually picked up by MFC. So Montana Fly Company picked it up. 18 00:01:00,325 --> 00:01:04,445 Dustin: And it's, yeah, it's a caddis pattern. I've been fishing for, 19 00:01:04,525 --> 00:01:09,465 Dustin: you know, a number of years, both here in Wyoming and back east in Ohio and Pennsylvania. 20 00:01:10,565 --> 00:01:15,365 Dustin: So, yeah, it's a caddis pupa. It comes in a few different variations. 21 00:01:15,365 --> 00:01:18,245 Dustin: Variations um so um like you 22 00:01:18,245 --> 00:01:21,085 Dustin: know i like you can you can run it as a standard nymph 23 00:01:21,085 --> 00:01:27,105 Dustin: you can uh swing it yeah because it's got a soft tackle collar on it um there's 24 00:01:27,105 --> 00:01:31,485 Dustin: a protagon version of it that can be ran under a hopper so a lot of different 25 00:01:31,485 --> 00:01:36,165 Dustin: variations that i like to run with it but uh yeah mfc uh was gracious enough 26 00:01:36,165 --> 00:01:40,505 Dustin: to pick it up and so yeah folks uh if you don't see it in your local fly shop, 27 00:01:40,685 --> 00:01:45,265 Dustin: be sure to ask your fly shop to see about ordering some of the white, 28 00:01:46,565 --> 00:01:47,665 Dustin: Caddyshack from MFC. 29 00:01:48,245 --> 00:01:51,525 Marvin: Well, there you go. And so, you know, since you've been out on the water every 30 00:01:51,525 --> 00:01:52,785 Marvin: day since you've been back, what are you seeing? 31 00:01:54,112 --> 00:01:56,812 Dustin: Um we're seeing that you know a lot of 32 00:01:56,812 --> 00:01:59,472 Dustin: fish it's been really really good uh kind of on 33 00:01:59,472 --> 00:02:02,592 Dustin: all fronts uh you know starting north on 34 00:02:02,592 --> 00:02:05,692 Dustin: the on the bighorn uh quite a bit mossy now um 35 00:02:05,692 --> 00:02:08,512 Dustin: it usually does get mossy you know at this time 36 00:02:08,512 --> 00:02:11,792 Dustin: of year but i would say this is mossier earlier than normal 37 00:02:11,792 --> 00:02:15,712 Dustin: um the the typical fare 38 00:02:15,712 --> 00:02:18,632 Dustin: of scuds and sowbugs still are are doing well to 39 00:02:18,632 --> 00:02:21,612 Dustin: nymph them but just be aware you're gonna probably be you know picking 40 00:02:21,612 --> 00:02:24,752 Dustin: a lot of moss off off your flies um you can 41 00:02:24,752 --> 00:02:27,672 Dustin: leash the banks probably it's a little more success in faster 42 00:02:27,672 --> 00:02:30,812 Dustin: current um but uh otherwise yeah 43 00:02:30,812 --> 00:02:34,612 Dustin: you're gonna have to kind of be picking your lanes on the mile we are in the 44 00:02:34,612 --> 00:02:39,512 Dustin: thick of the sucker spawn right now so um we are you know so stoked because 45 00:02:39,512 --> 00:02:43,812 Dustin: those those big fish are uh pushing about a pathfinder and into a river system 46 00:02:43,812 --> 00:02:48,352 Dustin: so been really really good uh we want to cost some folks though you know make 47 00:02:48,352 --> 00:02:50,472 Dustin: Make sure you have a good vehicle to get out there. 48 00:02:50,592 --> 00:02:55,352 Dustin: We've had, you know, our typical heavy spring rains that, you know, 49 00:02:55,352 --> 00:02:56,792 Dustin: on that Bentonite Road driving out. 50 00:02:56,912 --> 00:03:01,012 Dustin: If you don't have all-wheel drive with, you know, a four-wheel drive with good 51 00:03:01,012 --> 00:03:03,812 Dustin: clearance, good tires, you could find yourself stuck. 52 00:03:03,992 --> 00:03:07,452 Dustin: And we actually saw, you know, unfortunately, a few folks in accidents and, 53 00:03:07,492 --> 00:03:11,392 Dustin: you know, kind of crashing the cattle gate. So if you're going out to the mile. 54 00:03:11,592 --> 00:03:17,092 Dustin: Even if it's not after the rain, make sure you've got a vehicle that actually can make the drive. 55 00:03:17,212 --> 00:03:25,972 Dustin: A lot of folks think that the Subarus or smaller cars can make it, 56 00:03:26,052 --> 00:03:30,172 Dustin: but it's going to be a little challenging. 57 00:03:31,132 --> 00:03:35,892 Dustin: On the reefs, things are fishing fantastic. We're starting to see more and more 58 00:03:35,892 --> 00:03:42,412 Dustin: PMDs coming off. And I would say that's still probably our best bug at the moment, PMB patterns. 59 00:03:42,912 --> 00:03:44,612 Dustin: Not really a whole lot of surface action. 60 00:03:45,172 --> 00:03:49,992 Dustin: We're still seeing some yellow sallies being taken as well, more on the mile 61 00:03:49,992 --> 00:03:51,212 Dustin: and more and more on the reef. 62 00:03:51,352 --> 00:03:54,512 Dustin: So all systems are firing on all fronts. 63 00:03:54,932 --> 00:03:59,192 Dustin: Water has been boosted on the mile and the reef. So it's big water right now. 64 00:03:59,352 --> 00:04:03,112 Dustin: So just be aware of that if you're going to go out and float it or weight fish 65 00:04:03,112 --> 00:04:07,852 Dustin: it to know that, you know, it's kind of bigger water. So just be, 66 00:04:07,892 --> 00:04:11,432 Dustin: uh, just be aware of those and, uh, you should have, uh, some success in the water. 67 00:04:11,752 --> 00:04:14,312 Marvin: Yeah. And I guess the other important thing too, is if you go out to the mile, 68 00:04:14,392 --> 00:04:16,872 Marvin: you have to go at least 80 miles an hour to stay on plane, right? 69 00:04:17,792 --> 00:04:21,312 Dustin: Yeah. You got to get on plane. Yeah. Yeah. Other, yeah. That's other, 70 00:04:21,372 --> 00:04:24,412 Dustin: otherwise you're going to feel all those bumps, but, uh, if you could, 71 00:04:24,452 --> 00:04:27,712 Dustin: if you can get your truck and your trailer on plane, you'll be just fine. 72 00:04:27,832 --> 00:04:33,272 Marvin: Yeah. And so, uh, we've got a question for you from Logan and he wanted to find 73 00:04:33,272 --> 00:04:35,632 Marvin: out where all of the public ramps are on the reef. beef. 74 00:04:36,976 --> 00:04:42,776 Dustin: Yeah. So in terms of launching a boat, the top public ramp on the Gray Reef 75 00:04:42,776 --> 00:04:45,896 Dustin: would be just below the dam on the river left side. 76 00:04:46,376 --> 00:04:49,416 Dustin: You're not going to have another public ramp until you hit Lusby. 77 00:04:49,896 --> 00:04:52,676 Dustin: River mileage, that's about eight miles downstream. 78 00:04:53,376 --> 00:04:58,376 Dustin: The next ramp down would be Government Bridge. So that would be, 79 00:04:58,376 --> 00:05:02,096 Dustin: you know, what's classically considered the reef. So you really only have those 80 00:05:02,096 --> 00:05:04,936 Dustin: three ramps of put-ins and take-outs. 81 00:05:06,016 --> 00:05:09,036 Dustin: Government Bridge is about 12 miles down from the reef ramp. 82 00:05:09,176 --> 00:05:16,816 Dustin: So that's really all that's public in terms of launching your boat or raft at that point. 83 00:05:16,956 --> 00:05:19,296 Dustin: Below that, you get into the trapper's route section. 84 00:05:19,916 --> 00:05:23,636 Dustin: You'd have Whitetail, you'd have Chalk Bluffs, and then even further down from 85 00:05:23,636 --> 00:05:27,016 Dustin: that, probably another 12 or so miles would be the Seacrest Ramp. 86 00:05:27,816 --> 00:05:33,076 Dustin: Once you get past that you got another four miles you're at Bessemer Bend in 87 00:05:33,076 --> 00:05:36,876 Dustin: the ramp there and then probably another 12 miles you're actually hitting the 88 00:05:36,876 --> 00:05:43,016 Dustin: town of Casper then at Robertson Road so you know on the Gray Reef itself really 89 00:05:43,016 --> 00:05:46,856 Dustin: the the points of launching if you're going to launch on the reef, 90 00:05:47,716 --> 00:05:55,096 Dustin: you're really only looking at just below the dam at the Gray Reef Dam eight 91 00:05:55,096 --> 00:05:58,956 Dustin: miles down you hit at Lusby, but then there's only a four mile scenic Everman break, 92 00:05:59,156 --> 00:06:03,956 Dustin: which would be classically the end of the Reese. So hopefully that's, that's helpful. 93 00:06:04,316 --> 00:06:07,276 Dustin: Um, you know, also want to encourage folks, you know, make sure, 94 00:06:07,416 --> 00:06:13,756 Dustin: uh, you, uh, you know, if you don't have Onyx, uh, carry a map with you, be looking around. 95 00:06:13,916 --> 00:06:17,116 Dustin: There's a lot of, a lot of private water that's on the Reese, 96 00:06:17,256 --> 00:06:21,456 Dustin: a lot of different ranches and landowners that, uh, uh, you know, 97 00:06:21,456 --> 00:06:23,236 Dustin: uh, we, we don't want to, um, 98 00:06:23,616 --> 00:06:26,956 Dustin: trespass ass on their property or anything like that, or, or, 99 00:06:27,076 --> 00:06:29,436 Dustin: uh, abuse those, those privileges that we might ask. 100 00:06:29,536 --> 00:06:31,836 Dustin: So, you know, just be, just be aware, um. 101 00:06:32,783 --> 00:06:35,463 Dustin: Um whether your river left river right one of the 102 00:06:35,463 --> 00:06:38,243 Dustin: helpful things that blm has done for us in terms 103 00:06:38,243 --> 00:06:41,583 Dustin: of what's public and private in terms of wage fish there are 104 00:06:41,583 --> 00:06:46,263 Dustin: blue and red signs so if you see a blue sign on one side of the river that indicates 105 00:06:46,263 --> 00:06:51,063 Dustin: that it's public all the way down so you see either a red sign or a private 106 00:06:51,063 --> 00:06:55,963 Dustin: trespassing sign so that's a good way you know if you if you don't uh uh know 107 00:06:55,963 --> 00:07:01,503 Dustin: uh the way around to identify what's public or private um but i always like to to, you know, 108 00:07:01,523 --> 00:07:03,883 Dustin: suggest to folks, hey, you know, download Onyx. 109 00:07:04,443 --> 00:07:09,743 Dustin: It helps out a lot to know, you know, where those boundary lines are pretty well on the reef. 110 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:13,863 Dustin: But in terms of launching, you know, I'd say the actual gray reef ramp launch 111 00:07:13,863 --> 00:07:16,783 Dustin: that's right below the dam or the Lesby launch would be the way to go. 112 00:07:17,123 --> 00:07:20,343 Marvin: There you go. And, you know, folks, we love questions on the Articulate Fly. 113 00:07:20,503 --> 00:07:24,283 Marvin: You can email them to us or DM us on social media, whatever is easiest for you. 114 00:07:24,403 --> 00:07:26,903 Marvin: And if we use your question, I will send you some Articulate Fly swag, 115 00:07:27,023 --> 00:07:30,383 Marvin: and we'll have a great drawing from Dustin at the end of the season. 116 00:07:30,383 --> 00:07:31,963 Marvin: And we're going to work on that before next time. 117 00:07:32,063 --> 00:07:33,883 Marvin: And, you know, as we always do, 118 00:07:33,963 --> 00:07:38,323 Marvin: Dustin, you know, what is our culinary gastronomic shout out this time? 119 00:07:39,563 --> 00:07:43,623 Dustin: Yeah, this week, we really want to shout out Black Tooth Brewing Company. 120 00:07:44,343 --> 00:07:49,363 Dustin: They've got a couple of locations here in Wyoming, both up in Sheridan, 121 00:07:49,423 --> 00:07:51,843 Dustin: which is their headquarters down in Cheyenne. 122 00:07:51,963 --> 00:07:56,423 Dustin: But we're proud to frequent our downtown location here in Casper. 123 00:07:56,423 --> 00:08:00,363 Dustin: They've been a great partner to us both 124 00:08:00,363 --> 00:08:04,143 Dustin: in terms of you know friends uh fellow guides 125 00:08:04,143 --> 00:08:07,323 Dustin: uh clients that we get off the river we can go grab a grab 126 00:08:07,323 --> 00:08:11,343 Dustin: a beer they often have through trucks but they also host our our tie-in events 127 00:08:11,343 --> 00:08:15,983 Dustin: that we have in the winter uh to teach you know folks fly tie-ins uh weekly 128 00:08:15,983 --> 00:08:20,603 Dustin: uh here so they've been a good partner um really really great beers uh they're 129 00:08:20,603 --> 00:08:25,663 Dustin: a great host to a lot of good events in town and now just a good staple in our community yeah. 130 00:08:25,663 --> 00:08:28,603 Marvin: Any Any special brews they've got online that you want to let folks know about? 131 00:08:29,643 --> 00:08:38,063 Dustin: Well, they just released the Guide Boat Gosa a week and a nod to our guiding community here. 132 00:08:38,743 --> 00:08:42,683 Dustin: So that just came out. I'm generally a fan of the Hot Freak, 133 00:08:42,743 --> 00:08:44,863 Dustin: which is a pretty middle-of-the-road IPA. 134 00:08:44,943 --> 00:08:48,563 Dustin: So that's usually my go-to most of the time. 135 00:08:48,623 --> 00:08:52,623 Dustin: But they've got a constant rotation of their beer. 136 00:08:52,623 --> 00:08:55,803 Dustin: So they got something for everyone, whether you're into, you know, 137 00:08:55,803 --> 00:08:59,963 Dustin: pretty middle-of-the-road pilsers, loggers, whether you like, 138 00:08:59,963 --> 00:09:03,123 Dustin: you know, all the avant-garde sours, 139 00:09:04,763 --> 00:09:07,943 Dustin: traditional IPAs, East Coast, West Coast, that whole thing, stouts, 140 00:09:07,963 --> 00:09:11,443 Dustin: porters, they've got something for everybody. So it's a great spot. 141 00:09:12,163 --> 00:09:15,183 Marvin: Well, there you go. Well, listen, folks, as I always say, you owe it to yourself 142 00:09:15,183 --> 00:09:18,963 Marvin: to get out there and catch a few. Tight lines, everybody. Tight lines, Dustin. 143 00:09:20,203 --> 00:09:21,643 Dustin: Tight lines, Marvin. Thanks so much.