Marvin: Hey, folks, it's Marvin Cash, the host of the Articulate Fly,

Marvin: and we're back with another On the Water with Dustin White. Dustin, how are you?

Dustin: Marvin, doing excellent. How are you doing, my friend?

Marvin: Yeah, just trying to stay out of trouble, and you know, you're back.

Marvin: You were like the traveling Matt for Memorial Day weekend, right?

Dustin: Yeah, yeah. I went back for, you know, saw some friends, went to a wedding.

Dustin: And as I got to see a ball game, it kind of blew into town real quick and got

Dustin: right back in the saddle.

Dustin: And yeah, I've been on the water every day since.

Marvin: Yeah, it's interesting, too, because we were talking before we started recording

Marvin: that you were on the road.

Marvin: I think you literally were like, I can record any time. And your Instagram had

Marvin: you sitting up in the upper deck of the ballpark.

Marvin: So we kind of ad-libbed a little bit more than normal. But, you know,

Marvin: one of the things we didn't tell folks is that you've got some patterns that

Marvin: have gotten picked up by OMQA that are in fly shops now.

Dustin: Actually picked up by MFC. So Montana Fly Company picked it up.

Dustin: And it's, yeah, it's a caddis pattern. I've been fishing for,

Dustin: you know, a number of years, both here in Wyoming and back east in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Dustin: So, yeah, it's a caddis pupa. It comes in a few different variations.

Dustin: Variations um so um like you

Dustin: know i like you can you can run it as a standard nymph

Dustin: you can uh swing it yeah because it's got a soft tackle collar on it um there's

Dustin: a protagon version of it that can be ran under a hopper so a lot of different

Dustin: variations that i like to run with it but uh yeah mfc uh was gracious enough

Dustin: to pick it up and so yeah folks uh if you don't see it in your local fly shop,

Dustin: be sure to ask your fly shop to see about ordering some of the white,

Dustin: Caddyshack from MFC.

Marvin: Well, there you go. And so, you know, since you've been out on the water every

Marvin: day since you've been back, what are you seeing?

Dustin: Um we're seeing that you know a lot of

Dustin: fish it's been really really good uh kind of on

Dustin: all fronts uh you know starting north on

Dustin: the on the bighorn uh quite a bit mossy now um

Dustin: it usually does get mossy you know at this time

Dustin: of year but i would say this is mossier earlier than normal

Dustin: um the the typical fare

Dustin: of scuds and sowbugs still are are doing well to

Dustin: nymph them but just be aware you're gonna probably be you know picking

Dustin: a lot of moss off off your flies um you can

Dustin: leash the banks probably it's a little more success in faster

Dustin: current um but uh otherwise yeah

Dustin: you're gonna have to kind of be picking your lanes on the mile we are in the

Dustin: thick of the sucker spawn right now so um we are you know so stoked because

Dustin: those those big fish are uh pushing about a pathfinder and into a river system

Dustin: so been really really good uh we want to cost some folks though you know make

Dustin: Make sure you have a good vehicle to get out there.

Dustin: We've had, you know, our typical heavy spring rains that, you know,

Dustin: on that Bentonite Road driving out.

Dustin: If you don't have all-wheel drive with, you know, a four-wheel drive with good

Dustin: clearance, good tires, you could find yourself stuck.

Dustin: And we actually saw, you know, unfortunately, a few folks in accidents and,

Dustin: you know, kind of crashing the cattle gate. So if you're going out to the mile.

Dustin: Even if it's not after the rain, make sure you've got a vehicle that actually can make the drive.

Dustin: A lot of folks think that the Subarus or smaller cars can make it,

Dustin: but it's going to be a little challenging.

Dustin: On the reefs, things are fishing fantastic. We're starting to see more and more

Dustin: PMDs coming off. And I would say that's still probably our best bug at the moment, PMB patterns.

Dustin: Not really a whole lot of surface action.

Dustin: We're still seeing some yellow sallies being taken as well, more on the mile

Dustin: and more and more on the reef.

Dustin: So all systems are firing on all fronts.

Dustin: Water has been boosted on the mile and the reef. So it's big water right now.

Dustin: So just be aware of that if you're going to go out and float it or weight fish

Dustin: it to know that, you know, it's kind of bigger water. So just be,

Dustin: uh, just be aware of those and, uh, you should have, uh, some success in the water.

Marvin: Yeah. And I guess the other important thing too, is if you go out to the mile,

Marvin: you have to go at least 80 miles an hour to stay on plane, right?

Dustin: Yeah. You got to get on plane. Yeah. Yeah. Other, yeah. That's other,

Dustin: otherwise you're going to feel all those bumps, but, uh, if you could,

Dustin: if you can get your truck and your trailer on plane, you'll be just fine.

Marvin: Yeah. And so, uh, we've got a question for you from Logan and he wanted to find

Marvin: out where all of the public ramps are on the reef. beef.

Dustin: Yeah. So in terms of launching a boat, the top public ramp on the Gray Reef

Dustin: would be just below the dam on the river left side.

Dustin: You're not going to have another public ramp until you hit Lusby.

Dustin: River mileage, that's about eight miles downstream.

Dustin: The next ramp down would be Government Bridge. So that would be,

Dustin: you know, what's classically considered the reef. So you really only have those

Dustin: three ramps of put-ins and take-outs.

Dustin: Government Bridge is about 12 miles down from the reef ramp.

Dustin: So that's really all that's public in terms of launching your boat or raft at that point.

Dustin: Below that, you get into the trapper's route section.

Dustin: You'd have Whitetail, you'd have Chalk Bluffs, and then even further down from

Dustin: that, probably another 12 or so miles would be the Seacrest Ramp.

Dustin: Once you get past that you got another four miles you're at Bessemer Bend in

Dustin: the ramp there and then probably another 12 miles you're actually hitting the

Dustin: town of Casper then at Robertson Road so you know on the Gray Reef itself really

Dustin: the the points of launching if you're going to launch on the reef,

Dustin: you're really only looking at just below the dam at the Gray Reef Dam eight

Dustin: miles down you hit at Lusby, but then there's only a four mile scenic Everman break,

Dustin: which would be classically the end of the Reese. So hopefully that's, that's helpful.

Dustin: Um, you know, also want to encourage folks, you know, make sure,

Dustin: uh, you, uh, you know, if you don't have Onyx, uh, carry a map with you, be looking around.

Dustin: There's a lot of, a lot of private water that's on the Reese,

Dustin: a lot of different ranches and landowners that, uh, uh, you know,

Dustin: uh, we, we don't want to, um,

Dustin: trespass ass on their property or anything like that, or, or,

Dustin: uh, abuse those, those privileges that we might ask.

Dustin: So, you know, just be, just be aware, um.

Dustin: Um whether your river left river right one of the

Dustin: helpful things that blm has done for us in terms

Dustin: of what's public and private in terms of wage fish there are

Dustin: blue and red signs so if you see a blue sign on one side of the river that indicates

Dustin: that it's public all the way down so you see either a red sign or a private

Dustin: trespassing sign so that's a good way you know if you if you don't uh uh know

Dustin: uh the way around to identify what's public or private um but i always like to to, you know,

Dustin: suggest to folks, hey, you know, download Onyx.

Dustin: It helps out a lot to know, you know, where those boundary lines are pretty well on the reef.

Dustin: But in terms of launching, you know, I'd say the actual gray reef ramp launch

Dustin: that's right below the dam or the Lesby launch would be the way to go.

Marvin: There you go. And, you know, folks, we love questions on the Articulate Fly.

Marvin: You can email them to us or DM us on social media, whatever is easiest for you.

Marvin: And if we use your question, I will send you some Articulate Fly swag,

Marvin: and we'll have a great drawing from Dustin at the end of the season.

Marvin: And we're going to work on that before next time.

Marvin: And, you know, as we always do,

Marvin: Dustin, you know, what is our culinary gastronomic shout out this time?

Dustin: Yeah, this week, we really want to shout out Black Tooth Brewing Company.

Dustin: They've got a couple of locations here in Wyoming, both up in Sheridan,

Dustin: which is their headquarters down in Cheyenne.

Dustin: But we're proud to frequent our downtown location here in Casper.

Dustin: They've been a great partner to us both

Dustin: in terms of you know friends uh fellow guides

Dustin: uh clients that we get off the river we can go grab a grab

Dustin: a beer they often have through trucks but they also host our our tie-in events

Dustin: that we have in the winter uh to teach you know folks fly tie-ins uh weekly

Dustin: uh here so they've been a good partner um really really great beers uh they're

Dustin: a great host to a lot of good events in town and now just a good staple in our community yeah.

Marvin: Any Any special brews they've got online that you want to let folks know about?

Dustin: Well, they just released the Guide Boat Gosa a week and a nod to our guiding community here.

Dustin: So that just came out. I'm generally a fan of the Hot Freak,

Dustin: which is a pretty middle-of-the-road IPA.

Dustin: So that's usually my go-to most of the time.

Dustin: But they've got a constant rotation of their beer.

Dustin: So they got something for everyone, whether you're into, you know,

Dustin: pretty middle-of-the-road pilsers, loggers, whether you like,

Dustin: you know, all the avant-garde sours,

Dustin: traditional IPAs, East Coast, West Coast, that whole thing, stouts,

Dustin: porters, they've got something for everybody. So it's a great spot.

Marvin: Well, there you go. Well, listen, folks, as I always say, you owe it to yourself

Marvin: to get out there and catch a few. Tight lines, everybody. Tight lines, Dustin.

Dustin: Tight lines, Marvin. Thanks so much.