Morgan L. Stogsdill (00:00)

A lot of you are already using chat GPT during your divorce to analyze texts, polish up your emails before sending them to attorneys, maybe even fight with your own ex, but use the wrong way. AI can quietly destroy your case. We're going to tell you how to use AI during your divorce case and how not to use AI on this episode of How Not to Suck at

divorce.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (00:56)

So I am a chat GPT kind of girl. have tried using Claude. I think that Claude is so boring. Claude is like chat's uninteresting older sister who went to Brown and has nothing else about her that's remotely interesting. So I use chat. other day I was asking it something and it kept

referring to like lyrics from a Lady Gaga song in its answer? it would say, you know, winky faced fire emoji, as if we've had all these conversations about Lady Gaga. And I'm like, what is happening? Does chat think that I'm like a middle-aged gay man? Like, what is going on?

Morgan L. Stogsdill (01:37)

Thanks.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (01:40)

And then it kept calming me like a little monster and all this stuff. And I'm like, wait, because that's like what Lady Gaga calls her crew, her fans. Well, my nine-year-old is obsessed with Lady Gaga. I don't know why we're working it out in therapy, but he has like this obsession with her. Come to find out that little monster had been on my chat.

asking chat to create all of these pictures of Lady Gaga, like coloring pictures and other things that I had no idea about So chat thinks that I have this obsession with Lady Gaga.

So it just goes to show you as we get into this conversation, you guys, we are training this little monster to respond to us in a way that it thinks we want it to respond. Whether you are my nine-year-old son or a middle-aged gay man and have an obsession with Lady Gaga or not. So put that in your pocket and marinate

Morgan L. Stogsdill (02:41)

even know where to start, You said Claude was like the old sister that went to Brown that has nothing else going for her. does the old sister only talk about the fact that she went to Brown, even though it's 25 years later?

How Not To Suck At Divorce (02:52)

100 % and that's all Claude has. Like I don't know, have you played with Claude at all?

Morgan L. Stogsdill (02:56)

I haven't yet, but I have done a lot of research on it and I know a little bit of the differences. And I honestly, because I'm a little freaked out with chat GBT, I don't use it like you use it. And maybe I should, or maybe I shouldn't, but I worry about it doing exactly like you're talking about, which it's at some point, if you're talking to it too much, it thinks it's doing you a favor by giving you answers potentially that are not accurate.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (03:21)

I'm not gonna say a drop more until we bring on our guest, because I have so many thoughts.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (03:28)

So whether you're a chat GPT loyalist or you're experimenting with chats, older, more boring sister Claude, you are likely leaning heavy on AI for almost everything these days. So with that in mind, telling you guys don't use AI to help yourself in your divorce is just dumb advice that you are not going to take. So we are going to take a

different approach. We're going to tell you how to use AI with other tools to help you save money and help save your sanity. And we are going to tell you what you absolutely should not do. What is off limits when it comes to AI and your divorce.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (04:07)

with us today is Texas attorney, Reagan Riddle. Reagan is an equity partner at Armstrong Divorce and Family Law in Texas. She's a board certified family law attorney and somebody who spends her days helping people navigate some of the most emotionally overwhelming decisions of their lives. And she, like many of us family law attorneys, have lots of opinions on AI, both good and bad. Reagan, this is going to be a fun one. Welcome to How Not to Suck at Divorce.

Reagan Riddle (04:33)

Thank you. I'm so excited to be here and to be talking about our computer friends.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (04:37)

our little friend that lives inside of our phones. I want to start here. If you have a client on the phone with you or directly in front of you who says the phrase, well, I ran this through chat, dot, dot, dot, dot, tell me the truth. Do you cringe?

Reagan Riddle (04:55)

Internally, a little bit, yes. Because I'm like, what did this robot tell you and what did you input to ask it? Because I guarantee you, it was wrong. But I also think it's great to have another resource for clients to go to when used correctly. It can be super helpful just at a

understanding level of what this process looks like where they don't have to ask me those basic questions necessarily if they can get that information from chat. It's just how you get that information is really important. What you ask it is important.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (05:33)

I think that the positive of AI, because we're not here to tell you don't use it, we know that you won't listen to us and I wouldn't listen to us if I said that myself. But Reagan just talked about the one thing that's really great at, and this is something that you should perk up and listen to. It's really great at kind of laying out a framework for you to give you the basic little roadmap

of what certain things mean in a divorce situation. I think it's great for that. And then we'll talk about what to do with that information in the future.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (06:02)

I don't want to skip over the biggest thing that Reagan said. Half the battle is what you're telling it. Half the battle is what did you prompt your little robot friend with. So if you tell your chat or your clod, if you're super boring, some sort of mistruth or your interpretation of reality, that little thing doesn't know that that's not actually what happened.

It's not a genie. It's not something that's like, well, actually, Andrea, you were going 45 miles over the speed limit, not 15 miles over the speed limit. So what's going to happen to you is a little bit different. And I hope you like prison. you guys, you know this. I think you know this. And I hope you know this. We are training AI to make us happy.

That is its job. It was created so that the users keep using it. We don't use things that don't make us feel good. So these little robots are not going to just tell us the absolute truth and nothing but the truth, so help it God. It's going to tell you things that boost your ego, that make you want to keep going back.

to this robot that make you want to sign up for the 1999 premium level membership, and yes, I have it, with ChatGPT because you rely so heavy on

going to give you the response that you're looking for. So with that being said, I want to do an experiment, you guys. I want us. Reagan, do you have your phone out by you?

Reagan Riddle (07:37)

I do.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (07:37)

Okay, I want us Morgan. you even have chat on your phone?

Morgan L. Stogsdill (07:42)

What do you think I live in the ice ages? I just try not to use it for everything I do, but yes, I have it up. I'm ready.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (07:47)

Okay, so I want us all to put the same prompt in it.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (07:51)

Okay, here's an idea. So if we're talking about somebody who wants to, at least where I practice in Illinois, wants to remain in their house and wants their spouse effectively kicked out of the house, we talk about exclusive possession. So why don't we put into our chat GPT, what is exclusive possession and how do I win that case?

Okay, I have my answer. there's a lot of good framework here, but I already see where there is a massive problem.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (08:27)

giving me a million bullet points did everybody have the same thing where it tells you what exclusive possession is and then it translates it into English? Does everybody have that? And then, so I want to know what does everyone's plain English say?

Morgan L. Stogsdill (08:37)

Yes.

Reagan Riddle (08:42)

So mine says exclusive possession under Texas family law, because I guess it knows I'm in Texas, usually means one parent. It's what she's listening to me. Usually means one parent has the exclusive right to determine the child's primary residence. In plain English, the child mainly lives with that parent, and that parent controls where that child lives within the geographic limits set by the court. But Texas calls custody conservatorship.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (08:49)

It's watching you.

So mine doesn't mention the kids at all. Mine just says in plain English, you want in quotes, for now, this house is mine to live in exclusively while the divorce case is pending.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (09:20)

Mine says something different. Mine says exclusive possession usually means a court to give one person the right to live in a home while keeping the other person out, most often during a divorce, separation, or domestic violence case.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (09:33)

Interesting. And then mine automatically now starts talking about abuse, which is so random. Mine starts saying, a lot of people think this means, but they didn't hit me, so I can't ask for it. And then mine goes into this whole diatribe about how I need to have stalking behavior, ⁓ police reports, weaponized parenting, emotional destabilization, harassment.

My mind just knows that I've had trauma, think. Mine's like, all right, girl, let's go. We're going to put you in this as a starring role of the Lifetime movie of Andrea Gitt's exclusive possession.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (10:12)

Reagan, your chat GPT actually come out and does that mean what you thought it should mean in Texas?

Reagan Riddle (10:20)

So I thought it might hit that. I don't even use the chat GBT on my phone that much. I use the one on my computer. And so I think that's really interesting. We each typed in the exact.

same phrase and it came out with all three different things related to that phrase. But that makes sense to me that it would be focused more on the kids than the housing issue because that's so many parents come in asking for that particular phrase as it relates to their children.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (10:46)

So here, where we practice, that does not relate to children at all. And I'm going to give you the upshot of what I see on mine and then the down stroke, So the upshot is it talks about if you're preparing for court to go in and try to get your spouse out of the house, here's what you want to prepare for. Here are some things that judges want to see. Awesome. I like it so far. But the problem

And where this big thing lies, and I think Andrea, that's why your chat GBT is kind of going so nuts on your side, besides the fact that you have a lot of trauma, is it's leaving out the massive issue that Illinois has really, really tough case law on getting somebody out of their house, basically. So our case law in the last few years has gotten even harder to get somebody out of the house.

when I'm reading this and what clients are probably reading is they're like, hell yeah, I'm going to get Brenda out of my house. This lady's a lunatic. And it's going to be easy. All I got to do is do X, Y, and Z and case closed. She's out. But what it's not doing is saying, whoa, whoa, hang on. There's something that's really massive in your divorce case called the law. And it's going to be an uphill battle no matter if you have all these facts.

And that's what it's kind of doing in Andrea's side, but it's not making that jump. It's not telling you, but this is what the case law says, so be really careful, right?

How Not To Suck At Divorce (12:15)

And with that, mine is assuming that I've already gotten this. And it's telling me, like, this is great because this is interesting. says, here's a strategic piece that a lot of lawyers will not say out loud. The person who remains in the home with the children often gains a practical advantage in creating stability, routines, school continuity, and parenting optics during the case. That doesn't mean it's manipulative. It's just a reality and litigation.

I never told my chat that I already have this. So it's putting this idea in my mind already because we're all emotional beings, right? Somebody going through a divorce is a regular emotional being times 110,000. It's already got it in my mind that not only am I going to get this, but it's going to help me at some point in my case that's now going to be litigated.

which like it went from chapter one to chapter 47, which means that now me as the client, I come to you, Reagan or you Morgan, keyed up, ready to go, full tilt boogie on your asses about having exclusive possession where you're going to be like, where the hell are you getting this from?

Morgan L. Stogsdill (13:30)

I mean, think about us as divorce lawyers. We're like, number one, where'd you get your bad information? And now we look like the bad guy because we're saying, hold on, time out. This isn't going to work in your case. And here's why. And you're like, but I'm all keyed up. I already was ready for this. Like I've already won the battle. mean, what do you think, Reagan?

Reagan Riddle (13:49)

Yeah, I mean, and also rude chat GBT on your chat, you be talking shit about lawyers. Like your lawyer is not going to know this. Like what? But I think you're right. They won't tell you. they'll lie to you about it. it does give you, give these people a false sense of assurance that as long as I do this step-by-step process, I'm going to get my results.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (13:58)

Right, or your lawyer won't tell

Reagan Riddle (14:10)

And like you said earlier, mean, chat GBT is a diagnostic people pleaser. it knows you if you use it a lot, it knows you specifically, and maybe it knows that you live in Chicago, thus all the violence and trauma, but it's going to tell you based on your past chats. I'm just kidding, I'm in Texas. mean, you know everything about gun violence down here, but ⁓ it's gonna know like what you've.

previously inputted and it's gonna know what you previously wanted to discuss and what you what facts you've provided about your own life to it. And so it makes sense that it's gonna try to please you and giving you an answer that's based on limited context and facts. And then again, me and Morgan have to come in and say, hey, that's not gonna work. That's not gonna work in it because that's not the law. And that's just not what

that your judge is going to do about this particular situation, like sure, that's great evidence, but this is not a guarantee. And when you're in family law, you know nothing is a guarantee. And I think it just creates this false assurance for people, which is the real big negative about chat GBT at times.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (15:21)

that right there proves our point. Based on things that you have told your little monster friend in the past, it's going to shift the way that it talks to you. You don't want that when it comes to looking for facts that you are going to base your major decisions off of. That is why asking chat a question

that's open-ended like this when it pertains to your divorce is ultimately a bad idea. So as you guys saw for me, it knows I run a marketing firm. So that marketing is all about messaging and positioning. It knows that I host this podcast. So it's always gonna say things like, well, here's a little secret, Andrea. Your chat knows what you do.

It can't delineate between, ⁓ now I need to give this person just the hardcore facts versus my little opinion or my little spin on it to make Andrea puff up a little bit and feel good and make sure that Andrea opens me the next time she has a question. That's why it's so dangerous. And the other thing is, and this is what we talk about all the time, and you just heard us talk about this on our last full length episode.

this puts you on the emotional roller coaster. Because the minute that you get a response from chat, whether it's good or bad, usually it's gonna be more positive. You're gonna think that that's your reality. And then you go and talk to your lawyer and you take a nosedive. Then you know what happens? Then you have started to split from your attorney, not even because of your ex, but because of your stupid AI robot.

That's now making you think that your attorney doesn't know as much as your attorney really does and is possibly misguiding you.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (17:16)

don't forget the human element right? We're, we're Reagan and I are talking about the law, but AI is not human. And there is a really major human element when you file for divorce, no matter where you are. I don't care if you're mediating and staying out of court, but at some point you have to go through the court system to get your divorce stamped. So you have to file for divorce and you will be assigned a judge. That's the human component. That's also the secondary thing that your lawyer will know is

This is the county you're in. This is your judge. This is the judge's thoughts. And this is what the judge has done on the same exact issue that I was before this judge three weeks ago. Yeah, it might not be the law, but guess what? Maybe this judge doesn't really follow the law. That's the judge you're in front of. So you have to really know the humanity behind it. And I don't think AI can completely take it out of that realm. But I do want to say...

maybe an unpopular opinion for some lawyers, my personal opinion is that the roadmap that it gives you and the ideas is knowledge. And we always say that knowledge is power here. It's just what you do with that knowledge. Don't take that leap in my mind until you've spoken with your lawyer and don't get yourself all pumped up before you've spoken with your lawyer.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (18:32)

So then Reagan, in your opinion, AI in terms of your divorce should only be used for what? Let's give all of our listeners some really simple marching orders here.

Reagan Riddle (18:46)

AI is really great at communication and organization. think those are the two big pieces, resources that I tell my clients to use AI for. If you are emailing your ex, you're texting your ex, they are family wizard messaging them, you should be using AI.

you should be using some form of AI to respond to your ex, especially if you struggle with responding in kind and respectful ways to maybe some messages that are really ugly. Just run it through chat GBT really quick to see what your response should be and they will do a wonderful job of.

providing you with a response that I can then show the

How Not To Suck At Divorce (19:32)

I love that you just mentioned Our Family Wizard. A lot of people don't use Our Family Wizard because they don't think that they need it. and they're saying crazy things to their ex, and then they get their wrist slapped.

In court that costs them so much money, and they they would have just gotten on this co parenting app, which is not a punishment by any means. It just helps organize communication and calendars and money while things are a little bit more tense, it would have saved them so much of a headache.

if you guys have the divorce crash course, you will get an exclusive offer to save 25% on our Family Wizard. So make sure that you use that.

Reagan Riddle (20:22)

Because remember, when we're in these types of cases, everything you write down is going to be showcased in front of the court potentially. And so that is a really good way of keeping your language to something that a judge would be OK with. Because they're judging you on co-parenting. They're judging you on how you communicate with this person going forward. But I totally understand from the client perspective.

You've got your monster of an ex over here just hitting below the belt, knows where to push your buttons because they've been married to you for 10 plus years. That instinct is to just go back at them because that's what you've always done. You got to stop yourself and you got to put it into the chat box. But then I will say as a caveat, please, dear God, reread it and put it into your own words.

But the messaging will be there and it'll be exactly the tone and the respectfulness that you need to show the court that I'm above this. I'm above this man.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (21:19)

And here's what I would tell everybody to do to make like Reagan's guidance even easier for you. Give chat the right prompts. So if we're talking about communicating with your challenging ex, what you could do is if you have our guide, which goes through examples of how to use

BIF, which everyone who listens to our show should be familiar with, BIF, that's Bill Eddy's acronym for being brief, informative, friendly, and firm. We give examples, we give templates of how you should write emails in our high conflict communication guide. Here's what you can do. You can copy that template, copy that email, paste it into chat, and then tell chat, now here are my specifics.

Can you use BIF just the way that it's done in this email, but enter in all of my details? The other thing, here's another bonus. Let's talk about communicating with your attorney. You all know we talk about this all the time, that one of the biggest ways that you are overspending in your divorce is because you don't communicate with your attorney in a cost-effective way.

That's why the first section of our Divorce Crash Course teaches you exactly what your emails and how your phone calls should look and sound. Here's what you can do. copy that page, paste it into chat, and then say, okay, using this template

Here are the details. This is what I need to communicate. Can you do this? And then boom, it's been done. But don't just ask chat blindly, do this, do that. You need to give it those parameters so that it's doing things in the right way and then reread it. What do you think, Morgan?

Morgan L. Stogsdill (23:10)

one thing I would say to you is when you're using chat, there is a memory toggle on the chat turn off the memory. There's a few reasons I would say that. Number one is it's less likely to please you and just give you responses that it thinks you want. Second thing is it's not going to remember what you said.

And what I'm seeing now these days, and I'm curious to see if Reagan's seeing this, I'm seeing a lot of discovery issues in divorce cases saying, please provide me with all your chat GPT history, everything you're putting in there. So if you have the memory on, it's all getting tracked there. So that's really tricky. And I will tell a story because I got some of those pieces of information recently. And there were chat GPT history of how do I, as Chad, hide money from Brenda?

How Not To Suck At Divorce (23:55)

No.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (23:55)

How do,

yes, yes, the history because.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (23:59)

Which bank

in the Cayman Islands is the easiest one?

Morgan L. Stogsdill (24:03)

Yes. Uh-huh.

But these are the things, because everyone thinks chat GBT is so, you know, this is just my friend. I'm just talking to it. Like, it's so confidential. It's not. Turn off the memory. Don't let it, you know, please you. Let it give you the facts. it should not be used for legal strategy. It should not be used for something that's going to tell you whether you're going to win or lose an issue.

and it should not be used for doing things that are not above board because they can be found if you have the memory on in the divorce case.

Reagan Riddle (24:34)

that's definitely an important caveat that everyone needs to hear because there are multiple states now looking at. know at least one, I think it's New York maybe, that said that all of those chat histories are discoverable. I think if you're just using it for communication, like who cares? Like don't think the court's going to be like, you wanted to have

another resource to speak more respectfully to your ex. I love that. Great job. It's kind of like the tone meter on our family wizard. I don't think they're going to be upset about that. But I do think along with that, what Morgan was saying, I think you also need to be careful what you're uploading into this chat. Because they claim all of these AI systems are a sandbox that you can just dump in there and it's private. But I don't know.

I just don't trust it. I don't trust it. don't trust what can be retrieved through the discovery process. So I would not want to see somebody putting in their medical records or their mental health records or their kids' mental health records or any type of record that it has sensitive information because I think you're asked.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (25:35)

Or the

other side's sensitive information. Talk about a good way to get sanctioned in your divorce case and maybe have criminal issues. I mean, you're uploading somebody else's records. That would be horrible. So be careful.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (25:50)

Geez, now I'm scrolling through my history and I'm looking at all the things I've given chat and you guys are making me real nervous. Although my most embarrassing thing was I asked chat how the American girl doll, Samantha Parkington, would have handled her divorce.

Reagan Riddle (25:50)

Absolutely.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (26:08)

So...

Morgan L. Stogsdill (26:08)

Only you, only you.

Reagan Riddle (26:10)

What did she say? What did she say? Did she poy- Would she poison her husband?

How Not To Suck At Divorce (26:13)

the utmost dignity,

with the utmost dignity. It was like, ooh, amazing question, Andrea, fire emoji. This is so up your alley.

If the aliens ever come to invade us or China or whatever, they're taking me first or not, or maybe not. Or maybe they're like, we're taking everybody but Andrea.

Reagan Riddle (26:35)

Maybe you saved yourself.

You saved yourself from organ donation. Maybe they saw your medical records and were like, ⁓ just pass.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (26:43)

I'm definitely

Morgan L. Stogsdill (26:43)

We don't need

her.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (26:44)

Reagan, do you have any AI horror stories?

Reagan Riddle (26:47)

I was working on a brief.

And comparing what I did and asking Chad, is there any more cases out there? Did I miss something? And Chad sent me back a whole memo that said, yeah, there's like this one case that you missed that's like spot on. I was like, this case is amazing. I love this case. This works well with all the other cases I found. I spent another 30 minutes looking through Westlaw, trying to find this case. like, is this out of like a different state? Like, I just missing it?

I think I had two to three additional follow-up questions to chat. The chat's like, yeah, this case exists. So I'm like challenging chat. I'm like, I can't find it. Like, where is it? And they're like, yeah, it's over here. And I'm like, it's not over there. And at the fourth prompt, it came back and was like, you're right. I made it up. And I was like, why did you, why did we go through this exercise? Why are you making me do this? Because it's a people pleaser.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (27:32)

No!

How Not To Suck At Divorce (27:39)

⁓ And

there was an attorney who was actually held in contempt because he was, I can't remember which state this was in, but he was citing case law that did not exist. And then it would later found out that he got it from chat. This was like super recently. I've had the same thing happen Reagan, where I was asking chat for guidance. my God, you know when this was Morgan? This was in September when we went to LA.

and we were gonna record that episode with the mediators and celebrity attorneys, we were gonna at one point try to record it ourselves. So I bought this new mixer that I'm like, can we figure this out? And chat was trying to lead me through how to sync it. And I'm like, nope, that didn't work.

⁓ you're right, Andrea. I gave you something wrong. Do this, do this, do this. Like an hour and a half later, it was like, yeah, I'm really not so sure. I think you're right. It's not gonna work. I'm like, ⁓ it was just like, it was like, goodbye. Like when you sign out of AOL.

It's like, I'm done. I'm like, wait a minute, hold on.

this is what AI does. So do not put all of your eggs in that basket. It doesn't know everything. And we lean on it so much.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (29:04)

Right. And taking us back to the divorce crash course where we have our awesome timeline on there, that's one thing AI could probably help you with. You could upload facts and say, hey, put it into this format. Put it into this timeline format that, you know, how not to suck a divorce gave me.

Just something like that so that it's easy for your attorney to read. Those are positives on using Chachibet. But the point of this is that it's not going to replace lawyers, at least right now. It doesn't know your judge.

It doesn't know humanity, guess I should say. Humans, it thinks it knows, but humanity and what really happens in court, it doesn't know and it can't know.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (30:15)

I want to make sure that you guys all understand very clearly the best way to use chat. And Reagan said it really succinctly, to help with your communication and to help with organization, but do not use it blindly. Use it in conjunction with a very specific prompt.

And my suggestion is you copy and paste from what we have given you either in our guides or our divorce crash course, because those words that you are using are from an actual attorney. So you know that it's kosher and sound. Don't just raw dog this stuff. And as Morgan said, make sure that you keep the memory toggled off. So you don't want people finding all your things like people can find with me.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (31:04)

You don't want to use it for legal strategy. You don't want to use it to figure out if you're going to win or lose something. You don't want to use it and pretend it's the judge. It's not. And you certainly don't want to use it when you're trying to do something that's not above board because your chat history can definitely be saved.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (31:22)

Reagan, before we let you go back to your Friday, any final thoughts?

Reagan Riddle (31:26)

I think that you just keep in mind with AI, I think a good way to think about AI is it is your assistant. It is not the authority on anything. Use it as your personal assistant in your divorce case. It is there to assist you. It is not there to direct you. That is the person that you hired, your lawyer or

if you have a therapist, don't use it as your therapist either. Because not only, I don't think it's going to give you great advice because it's people pleasing, right? But also, like Morgan said, don't put things in there that could be potentially discoverable, like anything to deal with your mental health. All of that is discoverable in our cases. And so that is really important. So use it as an assistant. Do not use it as the authority.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (32:09)

Amen. Preach. And friends, if you are going through a divorce and you reside in the Dallas Metroplex area of Texas, hit up your girl, Reagan. Slide on in to her inbox. Reagan is a phenomenal attorney correct me if I'm wrong, you guys have an all-female practice. Is that correct?

Reagan Riddle (32:31)

We do. Everyone that works with us is female.

Even our chat bot is female. I just will have you know.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (32:39)

Reagan, thank you so much for hanging out with us this afternoon. There'll be a direct link in our show notes if you guys want to get in touch with Reagan for some divorce guidance in the Dallas area.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (32:52)

You know, one thing that's bothering me just wrapping up this episode is that these tech bros name these platforms like the worst name ever. And you were talking that Claude is like the big sister from Brown, but really Claude, that's the best name you could come up for. Like literally.

I mean, it is

How Not To Suck At Divorce (33:12)

Claude sounds like a predator.

Morgan L. Stogsdill (33:17)

agreed. It's like somebody who's behind bars. That's like got access to a

and like a legal book or something, horrible idea to name it Claude. We know that if you're going through this, every day is not a good day. Some days it's day by day, other days it's hour by hour. And know that you will get through this because divorce is a marathon. It is not a sprint.

How Not To Suck At Divorce (33:39)

whether you are banging your head against a wall or having a kitchen dance party to Lady Gaga, we're here for you. We are here to guide you, support you, make you think more than you feel because that is the ticket to getting through this process.

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Morgan L. Stogsdill (34:35)

And we, my friends, have got you.