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He's very self centered and just hasn't actually been in love. Like,

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doesn't know how to had a woman on his arm or something. Different women.

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Like, I'm pretty sure a challenge accepted was, can I sleep with

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a woman on Every month or was it every week? I think it was Monday.

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It was every day a different woman for a month. Rise

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and shine, ladies. You're tuned in to skirts up with Samantha and Melissa. We got

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your daily dose of hope and humor while we discuss everything from failing

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to succeeding and all the spiciness in between. Hey.

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It's Amanda again. Hey. It's Melissa, and we are

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back. Yes. Episode 3. Yeah.

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Look at us just trucking along. This is kinda fun.

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So today, we have a guest. And I'm really

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excited. This is somebody that Sam has known

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through a Facebook group for a while. And

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when we first started the podcast, Sam, you came to

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me and you were like, there's this girl. She's so cool.

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She's so nice. She's nonjudgmental. I've never in my life been

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in a drama free Facebook group. And

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this is a drama free Facebook group. And it's called what's the name of

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your group again, Lola? It is Not Your Mama's Mom group

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Okay. On Facebook. Okay. And Lola, who,

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is the creator of the Not Your Momma's Facebook group.

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And tell us a little bit about that.

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So I kinda started it when my son was maybe 6 months

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old, like, 4 years ago almost now. That's your first

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baby? Yes. My first baby. So I didn't really have, like,

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a close community or, you know, friends and family to

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kind of help me and get advice from. So

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I and also all the other mom groups that I was

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in were just so toxic, like, the drama and

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Impressive. Yes. For no reason. Like, why are you coming at

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me like that? We're all supposed to be, you know, knitted together,

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helping each other. Like so I like

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so many groups. The other mama groups are like, if you post,

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hey. I'm having a hard time trying to make a

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decision about, do I give my baby the COVID vaccine or

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not? Then, like, another mom will jump in and be like, if you give your

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child the COVID vaccine, you're a fucking idiot. Yeah. But then the other moms will

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jump in and be like, oh, you all are gonna kill the population if

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you don't. And it's like, woah. Woah. Woah. She just asked you to, like

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you know, like, there's no need to attack somebody like that.

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So after seeing that in so many of the groups, I just wanted to create

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something that made me feel good and made other people feel good and

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safe. And, you know, like, we're all in it together as a

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community at the end of the day. You know? So so

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I actually how did you get such a cool group of

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people? Like, where did you start? Did you send it out to your not

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must not have been your your where did you get people?

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What did I do? I think I may have shared it with a couple of

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my friends, and they just started inviting people. Like, the group

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started in Lilburn, and that's where I'm from. And a lot of people

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went to high school with me there. Yes. So, it's based out

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in Lilburn. So a lot of people from Lilburn have joined, but also

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other people, like from different states, different countries. We have

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a couple people from the UK and Canada, Australia, stuff

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like that. So, I mean, it gets shared pretty much everywhere. And the

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more people that, other people invite, you know,

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obviously, it starts to chain of, you know, the

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in invites and stuff like that. It keeps everyone communicating in a

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positive way. Mhmm. Because I I don't have kids. So I'm not trying to

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make this about me right now, but I do well, I think I have a

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lot of experience with moms and mom groups because I used to

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nanny. I nannied for, like, 9 years. I'd

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well, my babies suffer quite a few different families, but I,

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I would have to say nanny because I was, Yeah. Nanny is a better word

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anyway. Baby stat, just like you're sitting on baby, really?

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So, anyway, I guess my point is, I remember

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going to some of these groups and I'm I

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I'm an outsider. I was sitting there watching all of the moms.

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Right? I was the one that was watching other I I had brought

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children to the group to play for playgroups and stuff, and,

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most moms were really nice. I kinda feel like,

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sitting back and watching everybody, there is a lot of there

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was a lot of judgment. And I feel like for some reason,

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we as women, it's easy to, like,

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bond over attacking someone else. Does that make

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sense? And I I don't love that. It makes me really

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sad because when I'm looking at all these women, I feel like I could

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see, oh, yeah. She's a little bit insecure in this aspect and

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she's got issues in this aspect. But I think that's

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more of what it is. Not like because that's not bonding. Jealous

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over what you have, I think, is what that is.

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Because anger has to send from somewhere else. It's gotta come

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from somewhere else, you know? So I think most of the time

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when moms in general see something, they're like, oh, I wish I had

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that. But also, like, I'm gonna be rude to her because I don't have

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that. And I have the privilege to be. It's like, what? Ew. Why? It is

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it gives you something to work on for sure. And Melissa, that's a really great

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point of view because these mom groups, that's an actually really valid

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Mhmm. Point that, like, I

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think that You see a lot of it, though. Yeah. Like, that makes a lot

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of sense that you would join a mom group because when you're full

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day long term taking care of a child, that's really valid.

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Why would you not want that support as well to better learn

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how to x y z? Like, constantly,

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you know, communicate

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sense. Right. Right. And I think a lot of times, we just want some

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validation that what we're doing is okay, and we forget that

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it's okay to say, hey. Well, I think also society

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makes us so scared of failure, right, and messing up. Oh,

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because either thing that you do is a failure to

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someone. Yep. And it's like, you know what? I think that everybody's

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just so afraid of just being judged that

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they kind of, like, do the judging first, if that makes sense. I think that

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happened so long. Yeah. But so I think it's amazing that you could start a

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group. But I guess we've introduced Lola, so I was

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thinking maybe we go into our topic of today? Yeah. What

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is our topic today, fam? Today, our topic is our

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top 6 favorite TV shows of all times.

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Okay. Why did you decide to do this topic?

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I chose this topic because, right now, I'm a stay at

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home mom. I don't get to discuss anything with anyone. Like, it's

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just the mundane, normal day to day conversations with

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just my husband about how was your day? What did you do today?

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And if I'm reading a book or if I'm watching a TV show that I've

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never seen before, all my commentaries are just in my

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head. Something about that TV show that just really,

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really I felt really passionate about and really, really loved. I don't have anyone to

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share it with. You're right. I can't get

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my husband to watch the same shows as me. Exactly. And then we're,

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like, we're both going different directions. Right? We're very busy. It's not that Mhmm. We

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do have some shows that we watch together, but and it's like, I really wanna

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talk to him about this. But, yeah, okay. They don't know what I'm talking about,

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so they can't give me any feedback or their opinion on it. Yes. And so

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the shows that I have felt something very

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passionate about, like, I'll be this I'll be explaining it,

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and, he'll be like, that sounds like a really weird thing to

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feel passionate about. And I'm like, you just you would have to understand. You would

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have to see what I'm talking about to understand why, like, it just feels so

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passionate. I will say that we have one show that we,

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like, have watched together. And at first, he told me absolutely not. Like, this is

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gonna be dumb. But now it's become both of our comfort shows. So there is

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one of those. So at least there's one. Are you gonna share?

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What is the show? Yeah. So, it's actually

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my top one. It's called How I Met Your Mother.

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That one. Okay. Have you seen it, Melissa? I

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have seen it. I did not get into watching it all the time, but I

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have seen it. And it is funny. It's funny. It's cute. Yeah.

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So that one is my favorite. It's my favorite go

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to, like, if I'm just exhausted,

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For those who've never seen it, what's the premise of that show? So that

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show, it's about a group of friends, and it's basically just

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their life together. The whole point is that the main character, Ted

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Mosby, is explaining to his children how he met their

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mother through, like, what, like, 8 seasons, 10 seasons? Like,

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stories and stuff like that. Yeah. And it's just episodes about

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that. Yeah. About And their friendship through along the way and stuff like that. The

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ending is probably my favorite. Oh, I actually the ending The ending,

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I have seen it. And I cried even though I'm didn't get invested into the

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whole thing. Cry every time. It's the only only, only show

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that makes me cry every time. But I think it's because it the

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ending of that show actually makes me a little frustrated because you have

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this long buildup of finding the mother and how he got to the mother and

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how he got to his wife and just this, like, basically love story

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of how he got to her. And they bring her

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in in the last, like, season, so about, like, the last 4 or

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5 episodes, honestly. Spoiler alert. Oh,

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yes. Spoiler alert. And then so

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you fall in love with with this mother and with his

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wife, and they don't give you enough time to to

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get to know her. They don't give you enough time to get to know her.

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And before we know it, it just shows us that she dies. And

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that's basically how it ends. And so for me, it's so

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frustrating that you just fall in love with this character, and you just fall in

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love with her. And then boom, over. She dead.

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Yeah. No. That is

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so sad. And then anything like where children don't have like a

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parent like that just gets me. That's so hard for me. And then the

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other but the but the part of the ending that I do love

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is that I love very much, the, what's that

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word called, the character change in Barney, his

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progression, and how his character changes because

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he goes from not ever wanting a family, not ever having

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love, like, just not having that as well. Self

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centered, right? He's very self centered and just hasn't actually

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been in love. Like, doesn't know how to He always had a woman on his

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arm or something. Different women. Like, I'm pretty sure a challenge

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accepted was can I sleep with a woman on Okay? A

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different day of the month. Every month or was every week? I think it was

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Monday. It was every day a different woman for a month. Yeah.

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That sounds like a lot. Yeah. And it ends with him having

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a baby and finally having that connection of finding a true love. And it was

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his little girl. Oh, I have a

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baby. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It was so good. And

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like, and that's just my favorite. That's my favorite go to

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for a background television because it's just I know

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exactly what's gonna happen. I can really laugh with it. I love their quotes and,

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like, their inside jokes, and I I freaking use their inside jokes, like, in real

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life all the time. So which one of you wanna go first?

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What is your top favorite go to? So I have

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a few shows that I have to choose a top. I don't think I can

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do that. I just I've never been one of those people that can choose a

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top, but I can choose, like, a top 5. Beautiful. But

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I'll just give you guys a couple. I've got, like, the office, parks and rec,

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the IT crowd. Do you guys know that one? I don't know that one. I've

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actually never seen any of those. I know I'm, like, a minor of the group.

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That's okay. And then New Girl, which I've been

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doing now. New Girl. It's the best. The best. I am obsessed with

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New Girl too. So oh, and then one more. Sorry. The Mindy Project.

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I love The Mindy Project so much because have you ever

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watched I've heard about it. Alright, girl. You're gonna have to pick 1. The Mindy

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Project then. I'm gonna pick The Mindy Project. Okay.

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She played Kelly in The Office, but, anyway Oh, I know

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who you're talking about. Yeah. I think it's Mindy Kaling is her name. She

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plays a gynecologist, who's, like, in her

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twenties, late twenties, early thirties, and living in, like, New York. The

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relatable. Trying to, like, date. And

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I love it because she's kind of she's a very flawed

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character. Very flawed. She's relatable,

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but, like, she's also kind of a bitch. She's okay.

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So she's not she's not always that nice, but,

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she's kinda self centered. That's self reflection. Yes.

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Does she at least progress into, like, a grown character? Like

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it's like the episodes clearly show that it's not

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a secret. Like, everybody knows she is, and I don't know. I feel like she

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kinda works. I don't know. I think anything that could make you look at yourself,

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like, am I like that too? Is a good is a good

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thing. I wanna say yes. Yes.

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She does. She ends up having a kid and kinda yeah. No. She

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does. It's just very slow. And I don't know. For me, maybe it

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was slow for me too. I'm 43, and I wanna say a lot of

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the things I learned about my life, I didn't really learn till well into my

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thirties. And so I don't know. Maybe

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maybe that's another reason I kind of relate to her, and I like her. But

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some of my favorite comedians are from that show. They're, like, they're knit.

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Yeah. To add that to my list? Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's

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really good. She's just got all of these stereotypes in this show

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too. Like, she has, like, the New York guy who's, like, super tough, and

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he can't get in touch with his feminine side. And then, like, there's the other

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male gynecologists that work upstairs from them that they have a rivalry

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with. And they're super, like, holistic, and they don't believe

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in natural or they only believe in natural medicine. And so

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she's obviously, like, an MD doctor, and so there's,

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like, a huge clash there. They just have all these

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stereotypes in it, and I That's a real life stereotype, though. Yeah. That is a

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real life clash. Mean. Right. So I don't,

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I don't love stereotypes in real life, but I like being able to kinda pick

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them out and see and be like, you know what? Just because they're being stereotyped

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But that's exactly what we're here to talk about. It's like just because

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you strictly believe in one aspect, one

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one side, and someone else strictly believes in one side, it's

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real life. And what we're trying to do here, Melissa, is we're trying to

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get people to nicely see there are two sides to this coin. And

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just because we don't agree, doesn't mean that we can't

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be friends. That's or have a difference of opinion.

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Yes. So it's really fun. I think I'm also someone who will

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pick out those stereotypes also and be like, oh, that's interesting.

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They're really ugly to each other. Note. Let's not do that,

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Samantha. Like Right. Okay. I like that,

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aspect, that point of view. Sounds good. So what's yours, Lola? What are

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you gonna share with us? I think my top one is probably Grey's

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Anatomy. Like, top, top, top because I've seen it about 10

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times already. I think most people have. Wow. Most people I actually never have seen

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it all the way through. It's amazing. I haven't seen it all the way through

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all the new seasons because there's, like, 19 seasons now. Right. Yeah.

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It's it'll take you, like, months. Like, probably.

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Yeah. I think it would take me a year to watch it from beginning to

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end, honestly. But, I mean, it's a great show. Formulaic, though. Right? Like, it's

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not just, oh, there's, a sickness or a problem. We

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have to find out what it is. Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. No.

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It's, like, based on the characters. Yes. Do you go through the family

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characters' lives, like, what's happening in the offices and, like,

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the doctors' offices and, like, there's so much drama

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in it. And there's no drama in my life, so I need drama somewhere else.

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You know? Like really valid. That's very I need it. I

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crave it, but I don't want it in my life. You know? So I just

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watch it somewhere else. Ever hear how, like, women are

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a well, I say our age, but, women are addicted to, like,

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the true crime and the serial killer podcast. Crime.

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Yes.

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And watching kids. I need some excitement. Yes. Yeah. That's, you know

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very true. So it just it brings me out of my shell, and I'm

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like, oh, yes. Let's let's watch someone else get into it.

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Yes. For real. I love it. I don't have relationship problems, but oh my

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god. Let me eat my popcorn, you know? So I think that's

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I love that. It's something I crave, you know? If you

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could tell me, like, those I think anything with a little

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spice in it, like, like, all those books I read are spice. So

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there's gotta be some type of spice or, like, you know, hotness in it.

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Otherwise, it's just like That passionate, like, cooking. I

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will say I'm not, like, a super spicy TV

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watcher. See it. Yes. I don't want to see it. I

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actually don't watch a lot of things with nudity. I don't either. So

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the fact that Grey's Anatomy

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has that spiciness without the, like, actual visual showing everything

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because you don't have to do that to to enjoy spicy. True.

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You don't. Just my personal opinion. I agree. I agree. Yeah. I don't wanna

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see booty and titties anywhere. I no. I

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don't, like, want to, but I ain't trying to stare. Don't mind. But you're

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right. Sometimes it's just gratuitous. Right? Like, sometimes, like, what was the

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point of that? Right. Did it even add anything? There's,

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like, a part of me that's bright. That's, like, there just because and then there's,

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like, a part of me that's, like, okay. At this point, I

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have seen, like, 10 pairs of tits. Where's the dick? Literally.

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Yes. Why are the men bodice? Yes. Every single time, I'm like,

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what? I wanna see some man booty. Right. Not woman booty.

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Right. Right. Like, I think if there's never Give us

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give us both some. But the man and the women. Better. Right. And I

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think that I am getting better at it. I think that for a long time,

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there was also, like, a sense of, like, self consciousness in it of, like For

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sure. Okay. I wanna look like that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Exactly. And

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now I'm just more confident in how I look. Mhmm. Yeah. Because I've had that

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surgery. And so now it's You

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don't have to say I'm confident in how I look because I've had that surgery.

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You can just be like, I'm hot. I mean, now I feel hot. But You

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are. You are hot. You are, girl. Yeah. Yikes. But now

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it just takes away some of that insecurity and that jealousness. So now it pops

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up on TV. Again, I don't I'm not gonna watch a long love scene

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where there's nudity in it. It just makes me uncomfortable. Mhmm. But I

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grew up very sheltered, and I kind of was taught to cringe.

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Like, my parents would cover my eyes during kissing scenes,

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and I don't I've kind of worked hard not to be like that. And

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so there is a part of me that does feel uncomfortable when I watch those

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scenes too. Just because it's engraved in your head. Yeah. But I don't wanna be

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that way. I wanna be like, wait. This is just a this is our natural

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body. But I do think it has to do with this it does need to

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have to do with the story or else if it's just there for, like, clickbait

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Just because. Yeah. That's not That is so funny because I don't

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feel like I was sheltered. I'm just naturally, like, cringe about

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it. And you were sheltered, so it makes sense that that's

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programmed in your brain to, oh, I'm supposed to cringe. But I

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also could see why that makes you feel like I shouldn't

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be cringing. This is natural, and I'm gonna feel natural about this. Right. And

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I feel like I should be too in a sense, but, like, I just can't

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I can't bring myself to, like, sit there and watch it. Exactly. The same. I

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have, for years, been like, this shouldn't make me cringe. Come on. Snap out of

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it. Snap out of it. And so then finally, I was like, I think it

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just makes me uncomfortable, and I think I can just accept that.

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Like and, you know love that. I'll be respected for it. It's

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fine. Right. If you have people around you that actually care about you, they're gonna

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respect you. Like, there is this movie,

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Leonardo DiCaprio movie. What was it? The wallflower movie. And

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there's so much nudity in that. Is that, like, Wolf on Wall Street or

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something? I think so. Okay. So much nudity in that. Yeah. I

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haven't watched it. My husband literally turn it off, like, 2 minutes. I'm watching

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it. No worries. Turn it off. Yeah. Oh. And it's with naked girls

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everywhere. I'm like, what the Yeah. I have a question. Why? I

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think I I feel like that would stress me out too. Because I feel

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like they're trying to get a reaction for that. Yes. Right? Yes. It's

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just been too many sensory overload too. Okay. I feel like we got off

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topic. Lola, did you explain why

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Grey's Anatomy makes you passionate? And I just need some kind of,

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like, brain tingling reinforcements. Do you know?

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That feeling like you're a Grey's Anatomy doctor. Like, oh, I know what I'm talking

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about. Be a part of the team. Like, I'll be like, baby,

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Let's go. New orthotics. Yes. Like, let me fix your boo

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boos. You gotta know doctor. You gotta stab that pin into the

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trachea. Yes. And then you gotta, like, put the little,

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little thing down there and just yeah. The tube thank you. The trachea

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tube, get the get the 4 on not the 409, but the, like, the

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Fisler clips. You clip it off like any like, there's just

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so many possibilities. I really wanna be an OB.

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Who wants to go on topic number 2 or, show

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number 2? I can. Shoot. Well, shoot. Do I choose something

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because here's the thing. Something that

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has me Something that just really has you

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really feeling it and, like, why? Okay. It's Fargo.

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I love all seasons of Fargo. Have you guys ever watched it?

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No. Melissa, you are way more, like,

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TV show knowledgeable than we are. I like this. I don't know. I don't know

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about that. So Fargo is really

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interesting to me because it's kind of like

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watching a piece of art. The music is so good.

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You're sometimes you're just like I was listening I was watching

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it the other day, and I we have a roommate.

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My husband and I have somebody that's staying renting a room from us,

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and he has never seen Fargo. And I was imagining, what

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does it sound like to him? Because there's long periods of just music

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Oh. And you're watching things happen, but you're not bored.

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You're it's very you're kind of feeling the anxiety and the tense

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and this. And No. I really appreciate

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you bringing that up because some of the other shows that, like, are on my

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list, like, it's because of the emotion

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that they make you feel because of Because I wanna cry today.

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Because yes. Because of the art and because the way it's videoed because of

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the way it's directed. Yeah. And that's like what you just explained is

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like, you love it because of the way it's basically

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directed and portrayed. Really cool shots and

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Tell me what is it about. Fargo is an anthology

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series, meaning that each season's a different

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story, different time period. Oh. And it's basically

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this weird murder that happened in this little tiny town. She's

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pregnant. She's a police officer. And I love that they made,

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I loved that there was, like, an odd woman.

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She's kinda like but she's not stupid. She's smart, and

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she figures things out and while being in the oddball. Yeah. And so

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that first season kind of was based on that on the

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on the TV on the movie, I mean. Well, actually, the other thing

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I like about it too is because there's always multiple stories going on and how,

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like, sometimes they intertwine and the people from this story have no idea that

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something over here totally affected what happened to them. Oh.

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Yeah. It's so fun, and it's so ironic too. Probably

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happens in real life, honestly. For sure. It's just it's really too smart.

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How aggressive is it? They call her the type

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oh, like, do you mean aggressive. Like, trigger Abuse.

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Abuse. Like, abuse? This this this season, I would say,

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yes, maybe trigger warning. Yeah. This season, it was

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really interesting, actually. So like I said, it's art. So when she

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went back to, like, deal with her past, they did it in a way

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where they showed it through a puppet show. And it

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was kinda it was creepy, but it was also, like, I

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was really glad they weren't showing real people because it was It would have

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been graphic. Yeah. And if you've ever had had a situation, like, with

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sexual abuse or anything like that, it could have it could have triggered you for

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sure. Like, I was Okay. Well, that's good to know because there's definitely shows like

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Outlander is a lot of people's, like, favorite show. And I can't get

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past, like, the first and second episode because that's that's enough

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trigger for me. Like, I can't get past it.

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Okay. So So I think her topic really

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reminded me of, Stranger Things just because there's so many

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different things happening I love Stranger Things. The show. And then I

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love it. And then, like, there's, in the

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not chapters. I'm trying to Seasons. Books. In the, seasons. Thank

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you. There's different, like, sceneries

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and different places that the demogorgons are

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taking over, you know. So it's like, it's not in the same spot, but it's

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nest it's in the same, like, town. Mhmm. But

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he he just goes to different places around the town. It's

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like different dimensions? Yes. Right? Is that Yeah. Yeah. The

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up and the down. Yeah. It's honestly so good, but I hate

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waiting so long for the seasons. Mhmm. Because I think it's been

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almost 2 years now. So what about stranger things,

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like, makes it one of your go to shows? It's just how

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interesting it is and all the characters. I really love the character, like, build

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up and displays, the attachments that you

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make too. There was one attachment, what's his name? The long

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haired guy with the curly hair. Oh, Billy Billy?

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Yes. Billy. He was really bad at first

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Really? With his sister. Yeah. That's right. His

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character development kind of changed to protecting the town

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and doing all this stuff for the people of the town. So and he was

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cute. I know. And so there's, you know, a plus. Yeah. He did do

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some things to kind of redeem himself, and I was like, they're gonna try

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to change him, and now I'm supposed to like him, but he's a bad guy.

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He's such a he was so mean, but then they share his

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history with his mom and you're crying, and you're like, damn

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it. Mhmm. But then Yeah. Basically. Yeah. But

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it's good because it kinda brings us back to what Sam said

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earlier. Why do we why does everything have to be black and white?

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Why? Mhmm. Like, things are not just one way. Like, there

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are different ways to see the same side of the coin or off different money.

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You know what I'm saying? Mhmm. And if you see someone

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like, it's it's someone that you knew in high school and you just see

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them as this person that they were in high school, that doesn't mean

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that that's who they are at 30 years old. Right. Like,

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I would hope that, you know, the same bully in

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middle school or the same bully in high school is not that bad

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person here at 30 years old. I would have hoped they had some kind

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of change within themselves. You know? Right. You're

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right. And, also, we don't even know what was happening to have them

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act the way they were acting back then anyway. Right? What were they exposed

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to? What were they like, something's always happening behind closed doors that we

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don't know about. Always. Yes. Always. You know, now that we're older,

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you know It's interesting. To the show point, like, you don't

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you can change your mind because people change, and it just shows that people change.

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And you don't have to treat them like they were before. Yeah. So

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Billy, is he one of your favorites? Probably. And

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then, what's her name? The girl that works at Chips Ahoy.

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Oh, you're vegan, like Maya. Well, her real life. No. Is her real

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life? No. That's her name in real life. Real life. Okay. I was like, I

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don't know her name's in real life, but yeah. Yeah. The girl with the blonde

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shirt hair, is that who it yeah. I love her. She is so funny and

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she reminds me of me, like, her weirdness, quirkiness is like

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Same. Oh, I love her. She's so cute and everything too. And, like, her

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and Steve, their relationship was so cute. Best friends. Really is.

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Oh my god. You if you haven't watched it yet I have watched it

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because my husband's obsessed with it. It's the best. And, usually, I don't like

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shows like that. It's not one of the ones. Not normally.

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I'll read books about it, but I'm just now starting to get in,

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like, my fantasy realm and stuff like that. So I'm kind of opening up

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more to it. But I think when I started watching it, it

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was when it first came out, and I was like, yo, what is

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this? Like, I've never watched anything like this before. So it sucked me

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in immediately. I was like, Brett, you have to watch this show. It's about

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kids playing Dungeons and Dragons in the eighties. And he's like,

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okay. Yeah. It was definitely the opposite for us. Simon's like, oh, I love it.

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You gotta watch it. It's so good. And I'm like, but it's children.

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Like, I don't I have enough children to watch. I mean,

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most of them are, like, adult ish. Now I understand. Now I

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understand why. It's it is a good it's a good take. Okay.

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So my my show number 2, let's see. I think

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we talked about Lola's. We talked about your show 2 number 2. My show number

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2 that I just watch all the time well, not all the

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time, but, like, when I just want something familiar, is Jane the Virgin.

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And a lot of people look at me like I'm insane. Like, that show is

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so stupid. But It's so cute.

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It's very comical. It's very It's like an umbrella. It

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is. It's a telenovela. Mhmm. And it's really Is it like ugly Betty

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was? I never watched that. I haven't watched it either. It's very,

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it's it's it's basically an Americanized telenovela. I said

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that wrong. So it's things that would

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typically not happen in real life. Mhmm. But

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part of why, especially now, I appreciate that so much is

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because my life is a telenovela. Like, things that are

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happening,

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And so it's just there's a lot of comedy in it. But then I also

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really like the aspect of where it brings in

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the challenges, and it really shows you the struggles of an

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immigrant family that has moved into America and the

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troubles that they go through and how they're treated. And, and

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it's just like, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. It's just very,

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like, it's nostalgic. It's

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like, to me, it's giving you a different

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perspective, like full body. Yes. Like you are experiencing

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someone else's experience, and someone does experience that. There are

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obviously people that that this that part, that aspect

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is their life that we don't understand because we have not experienced

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that. So I love that aspect of it. But I also can relate because

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of my life experiences, especially currently, but also

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the actors, no one else could play them. No one

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else could. Yeah.

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Gina Rodriguez, no one else could play that part. Like, it

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had to have been her her mom I love her mom. Had to be her.

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It could not have been anyone else. Her dad could not have been anyone else.

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Like like when you watch it, I think you pick up yes. You learn

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their characters. And it's like you understand, like, it could not have been played by

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anyone else. They really know their character. They do. Like, they

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have that body. Mhmm. And that is where my obsession and my

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love for Gina Rodriguez has come from. I watch everything she's been.

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I love her so much. I wanna be her friend. Okay. What's going on my

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list? It's Jane the Virgin. It's really good. Super

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cute. It is cute. But and I, like,

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I like I don't mind watching shows that bounce back and forth from English to

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Spanish. Mhmm. It's got, like, a commentary aspect to

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it. So, that's also really funny. Like like, where they're

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talking to the camera? Like a narrator person. That narrator in the

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background that's speaking Jane is feeling very upset today because

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Yes. I love it. Will she get over that feeling?

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Yeah. And then it shows you like what and then obviously, it plays

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out. And I don't know. I just it's one of

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my shows that just makes me feel things. I was looking up

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Gina Rodriguez to see what else she's in. Oh, she's in Not Dead

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Yet. I've seen that a lot of it. That show, I just started

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watching, and oh my god. I haven't watched the last episode

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yet. My sister has prepared me to be disappointed, so I'm really

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that's why I haven't finished it. It. I kinda stopped. Yes. Okay. I'm

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gonna I'm gonna put both of those on my list then.

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Okay. So, Lola, give us the number 3

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show that you couldn't live without.

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Probably Gilmore Girls, just because it's

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so comforting to me. And, like, I like the fall seasons

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in it, the winter seasons in it. Oh, it gives you all the seasons? All

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the seasons. So you get to, like, experience the change and all the

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characters, the change in the town, the change in, like, the whole, like,

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scenery of it. And just I, to me,

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can sit with a cup of coffee and just enjoy it. Feel like you're in

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that season with them? That's so fun. Like, this is what I like

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to hear about, like, the intense details of why someone likes the show. It's so

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good. And just, like, Lorelei is probably one of my favorite just

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because I wish I had a mom like that that was so headstrong. And,

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like, she is not her daughter's mom, but she's also a friend to

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her and teaches her, you know, right from wrong. But

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also lets her have, you know, her freedom and what she wants

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to write. So I also think though, because she

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had her so young, I also feel like she doesn't know how to be a

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proper mom and a proper authoritative figure. That's my opinion of

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it. Though I could see depending on how you were raised,

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that you wish you had a mom like that. So I could see both. For

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me, I think it's a lot of irresponsibility and that she should be a

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little bit better, of a mom. I just wish because my

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parents were, like, they weren't strict, I would say, but

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they also had, like, hella rules. You know what I'm saying? So I just

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wanted a little bit more, like, honestly, where I could talk

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to my parents and tell them, hey. This is how I'm here. I think in

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that aspect, but not of, like, so much of the freedom letting me

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do this and that, but I just wanted that closeness with my parents. To be

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able to just be open with that without feeling Mhmm. Afraid to tell them

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something. So it just makes me super uncomfortable. Like, I I or not

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uncomfortable but comfortable and I wanna live that life and be in Rory's shoes and,

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you know, experience her college aspects and,

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you know, go through life with her and just her and Dean and then her

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other boyfriend and stuff like that. It's just I just the part

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that I see a lot of is that Rory's growing up

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feeling like she's the mom and taking care of her mom, and that's something that

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I just strongly hope that that is not what my family is like.

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It definitely changes in the end for sure, I think. Mhmm. But

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Laurel kind of wakes up. Have you seen Gilmore Girls?

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So I actually, for the reasons that you're saying, thought that

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I would love it because I love small towns. I love, like,

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the little coffee shop on the corner with the fall and walking in a sweater

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and but I couldn't get into it.

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It was really hard. I felt like there was a lot of complaining about how

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good their life is. It's a lot of complaining. Lorelei is a

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very complacent person for sure, and she gets things handed to her and stuff

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too. These are first world problems.

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But I couldn't get into it, but

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I feel like I the the feelings that you're saying it evokes for you

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are is what I or what I expected that it would effervesce. I, I Yeah.

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And there's some things obviously that I don't like about it. Like, it's kind of

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a not I wouldn't say a slow burn, but,

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it just it's really slow and the characters are just, like,

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meh. You know, like, their conversations and stuff. Just like,

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why are there so many pauses in between? You know, like, what are

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we doing? There's some awkwardness. Yeah. It's so awkward. I

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it's just one of those shows that I watched one time all the way through,

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so I don't have this, like, engraved into my memory. Yeah. The more you watch

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it, the more awkward I think it gets. Yeah. Because you just pick up on

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all the stuff that you haven't, like, picked up on before. Annoying.

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Yeah. Oh. Why? Why are we doing that? I think you brought up

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another Yeah. This makes me feel so weird. Yeah. Like, I think you brought up

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a good point actually about how you said the characters are meh. Like, I feel

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like you're onto something. You kinda have to have, like, a passion

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whether you intensely like or dislike one of them. And, again,

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there's no black and white. I'm like, I'm not saying they have to either be

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good or bad, but, I feel like there's

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gotta be something to make you say feel strongly about them, I

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guess. Mhmm. You want that? I think you're on to something because,

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again, we grow from the first time we watch this show. So if we watch

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this show for the first time when we are 19 years old, and now

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we're 30 years old rewatching that show, probably what makes us

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love and feel passionate about a character may make us different. It will

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probably maybe make us cringe in our thirties of, like No internet. They

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should not have been acting like that. They should not have said that. They should

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not have, like, I would hope that I wouldn't be reacting like that at

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their age. And I bet that as we grow

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ourselves and as we age ourselves, that how we feel about a

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topic and a character at one age is not how we feel later.

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Yeah. That's right. Because I mean, for now, I could rewatch it now.

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And then my feelings might, you know, be different. That's very possible. It

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may have been like a favorite at one stage, otherwise. Because it was a while

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ago when I first started it. So it's just boring to me

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now. Yeah. So I'm just like, no. I love the

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coziness of it. Obviously, just it's so so. Is it

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still like your number 3 show? Probably. Just still to have it in the

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background? Yeah. Because I'm so you see it, but hearing the noises and stuff

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that goes on. So, like, comfort. Yeah. I just it's that

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comfort. You know what to expect, and you can't be disappointed because you

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already know what disappoints you and what. So it's

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just either that or I put on something else that I have no interest in

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and then end up changing it to something that I have, you know,

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a comfort. That makes sense. That's because if I don't like it, I'm gonna change

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it right back. Well, it reminded me of the phrase, the enemy, you know, is

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sometimes just because you know, like, what to expect. So sometimes,

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having something that you don't love on but you're comfortable with it is better than

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having something new on that you're not sure even if you

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objectively might say, oh, I kinda think that technically is a better show.

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Well, who knows? There's so many things to rate shows, but but you know what

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I'm saying. Mhmm. Like Yeah. Interesting. K.

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Melissa, give us your next, like, must have show that you're just

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passionate about. I guess I would say

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office and parks and rec, comfort wise. They're just kinda

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like they're just quirky, weird people that

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I hate. Everyone's quirky and weird. Yeah. Yeah. I

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love it. I have to say that I'm probably the odd one

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out, and I have not watched either of them because something about the

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filming of it, I can't I can't get into it. The

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filming. The close ups The documentary style. Weird.

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Yes. Which is so good. I love documentaries. It it

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makes it it's so awkward. Well, maybe it's the

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awkwardness. Right? I think that I think it you're right. I think I've seen,

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like, 1 like, a couple of episodes, and then I'm like, oh, that's

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cringy. Like, oh. Feel like that secondhand embarrassment for them

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sometimes. It's intense, and I, like, I don't wanna feel I don't wanna feel

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like that. Like, I'm already embarrassed in, like, anywhere. Watching it

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happen. Yeah. Yeah. I feel that for myself enough.

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Like, let's not. Okay. I can see that. Yeah. I

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can see that. That's funny. But, you relate to, like, that kind of

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quirkiness, and you enjoy

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Oh, so maybe I should actually I am gonna throw another show with

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that. It's the IT crowd. So

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this one is British humor, and

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it's about these 2 guys. They work in this

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for this big corporation. They're the IT guys for this conglomerate of a,

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like, Skyrise type office building, but they're in the

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basement. And it's really funny just like

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they're it's another world down there, and it's just them 2, and they're

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both really weird. I love it. I love it so much.

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Okay. You have to clarify. It's a whole another world as in, like, literally

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another world or, like, they're just in their own little world? Their own

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world down there in the basement is like I don't know how to

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explain it. Okay. So it's those 2 guys, and then

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the company decides they need someone down there managing them. So they

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send down this woman who knows nothing about the IT

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technical side of things. It's just funny because now she's, like,

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thrust into their world. Right? So

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they they it does have stories where they try to go out into the world

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and, like, date or whatnot, and there's this whole episode where they take

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out these prostitutes thinking that they Oh. They don't know they're

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prostitutes. Like, they take them to the park Oh my god. And they're, like,

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at the amusement park going on rides and stuff together and, like

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That makes sense. I could see how that would be funny and, like, entertaining. It's

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funny and cute. And one of my other favorite episodes is they have, like, this

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underground fight club, but it's an actual spelling bee. What?

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And so you know, it's so dumb. I know. So Moss goes

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and he says and so they're, like, all in this parking lot

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and they're, like, having, like, a throw down, right, with

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words. And Moss goes, I came here to drink my milk and kick

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some ass and I just finished my milk. And it's like it's so, like, stuff

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that's not normal. Okay. This actually sounds enjoyable. Thank you. It's

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just stupid. And it's kind of reminding me of Big Bang

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feels. Big Bang Theory? A little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

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But I would feel like and I think I might only say this

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because, honestly, now that I think about it, Big Bang would be a really good,

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like, background show. But I think that my next

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top three right now is This Is Us. I

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am watching it. I'm behind on times. I am watching it

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for the first time right now. And I just know I

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like I'm I don't commonly watch shows as they come out and

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people get real intense into them. So right now,

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it's kind of in the past. And so now I've decided to watch it. And,

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oh, my god. I just the

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the the way the story is played out, the way

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this, like the stories are told and the way they intertwine.

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Like, it's just I don't know that I've seen a show like that

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on how it comes together. It's gonna make you want to cry. I actually know.

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I know people who say it makes them cry every episode. And no, I've not

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cried. I I got very upset. I mean, I I felt like a

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little, like, gloomy after Jack dies. But

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My mom, she would sit there and cry at every episode. So that's where I've

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been, like No. You know? I think it just depends. I did. I

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Aw. I did. It doesn't make me cry every episode, but it just makes me

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go, like, and then, like, man, like, the

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different perspective, like, you know, as siblings. Like,

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you're gonna remember a story and a scenario and a situation one way,

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but your sibling has a different glasses on,

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basically, of how perspective of that situation. Yeah. What? And what it felt for

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them, and they remember it differently. And I think that that's a very interesting,

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thing to show because that is true. It is very true. I get that

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with my brother all the time. Yeah. And I just I don't

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know. I love it and the different paths that you end up taking and

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just the love story of the mom and dad and, you know, the

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love story that Randall ends up in. And it's just it's just very

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cozy. And I just really enjoy watching it play out and how it plays

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out and really enjoying it. And I'm sure that I would end up watching it

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again. Well, then I'm gonna have to watch that. Mhmm. That's

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cute. Yeah. For me, part of it is the nostalgia. Like, they literally are

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born the same year I was born. Oh. Well, no. I think they were born

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in 79. Either way, I was born in 80.

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And so watching, like, all of the back flash flashback

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episode, I'm like, oh my god. And you can see what

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era you're in as it plays. I I do enjoy that aspect of

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it too, and it's like because I laugh all the time. Like, Simon

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is not enjoying the show at all. But, like, you know, if I've had a

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rough day with the kids, I'm like, tough. I'm gonna watch it because it's gonna

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soothe me. And I crack up every time it shows,

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like, the time period of when she's got, like, that blue eye shadow, like, all

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over her face. I'm like, that is not a good look. God. I remember that.

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More blue eye shadow all the time, and she might still to this day. I'm

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not sure. My mom still wears blue eye shadow. Oh, really? I swear to

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God. That's the only color she will ever wear. It is so funny.

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But in I think part of it that, like, I find interesting is

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like so you can tell that they change in each season of their

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life. And it reminds me of, like,

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okay, so I've worn my makeup the same way since high school. And

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then now that I just turned 30, like, literally, I'm like, I feel

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like I need to, like, redesign myself. Oh, fun. I need to make a change.

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I probably shouldn't wear my makeup the same way that I wore it in high

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school. And so I've literally been playing with different, like, makeup setups to see, like,

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okay, should I wear my eyes like this now? Should I wear my eyes like

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that? And it's, like, I've been playing around with my makeup. And so it's just

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really funny at my it wasn't that drastic as it is in the show. But

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it's, like, to that point, like, where you start seeing a change in my makeup

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now, in my clothing. Oh, yeah. And then maybe it'll come back around sometime soon.

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Yeah. You know? It's true. It will. I remember when I was

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little and my mom would be like, because when

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I, not I say little, but when I was a teenager and

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the clothes were what are happening now. And so

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Mhmm. We wore everything, not just bootcut, but,

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like, at and loose and big bootcut. Right? Just kinda like it is

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now. But my mom, I remember her saying Oh, that's right. Yeah. I

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will I will always wear skinny stones. Like it. But, And I

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like the baggy stuff too just Yeah. I remember her saying,

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oh, those are the same pants I wore in high school. And I was like,

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not really. It's not the same. And No. But it now I'm

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feeling the same. I'm like, no. It's literally the It's literally

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the same thing. It's freaking old navy. And I'm like, no. Not the

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knit spaghetti strap dresses. That is

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so funny. That's like I want a whole another episode on that because I love

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the generational changes and how people view them because that is like

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The kids now are like, oh, it's new. It's like, no. I mean, we had

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this back in the day. Flare jeans now with the high top and, like, I'm

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you just know that, like, our, you know, another generation is like,

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no, that was in when we were there. And now like, the skinny

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was is like now like, it's interesting. Yeah. I

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think that's that's a whole great another topic. So

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what kind of brought this topic on was, I also

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saw a, an article in The

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Times about why it is that we have these same episodes that we watch

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over and over again. And it really just as we were talking about

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naturally, like, those topics came up. It was, why do we do this?

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And it's, so because we

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have, one, feeling like that sense of community

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and, feeling like you have someone you

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can relate to. And okay, so one of those reasons was it also

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can make you feel more restored if you're sitting there scrolling

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through, your Netflix or your Hulu and your

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Prime and sometimes all of them because you just can't make a decision

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because you're exhausted. It's the end of your day. You've already fought all

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your children. You've already put out all of the work fires, and now it's just

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your time to flop in bed, flop on the couch, and let me just watch

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something that just makes me feel whole again and calm.

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Yeah. In the article, she said something to the effect that we can Yes. We'll

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link that article in case you wanna see where you align. It's nice to have

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something familiar. Mhmm. Yes. And what I am struggling

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with right now is that all the new episodes that are new

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shows that I try, I find that I get hooked hooked hooked

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into the show. Maybe lose a little bit of interest, but now I have to

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know how it ends. Yeah. My example of this is Pretty Little Liars.

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Like, I got hooked again. I'm late to the show. I just started it, like,

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a couple of months ago. I'll have to watch that too. I I never did

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see it. It it really wasn't worth all the time. Right. Because the ending was

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so awful. Oh, okay. It was very disappointing. And then I'm

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like, I wasted, like, a month What did you watching the show. Well,

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spoiler alert for anyone, but, what did you hate about the ending so much?

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It's so left field. Oh. Like, it completely kind of

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changes. Like, it doesn't really make sense of

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how it got there Okay. I guess? Yeah. Or how they got there?

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It it starts with having to Didn't build to anything. It didn't.

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No. I don't feel like Okay. I mean Basically, I think that they were

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trying to keep up with the factor where you cannot guess.

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Mhmm. Like, you the the like, you have to guess who this

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person a is that's watching the group, basically. That's destroying

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their lives and making it very miserable and very hard. So it

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that's it keeps you locked in of, like, okay. Well, who is this person? Like,

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let's get to the bottom line. Who is it? Okay. Yeah. But they're also based

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on books, so the books may be a little better. Oh, that's probably.

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Honestly. So I haven't read them yet. So I wouldn't know.

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Yeah. But I would I would assume that books are better than the TV

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shows. I would hope more detailed because it just literally goes boop boop

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boop boop. Okay. Like, what happened? Okay.

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Interesting. You know? Yeah. That's not that's not fulfilling. Right? Okay. So I

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know that y'all, like, sneaked in a couple of extra TV shows, but I

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think you can't forget to put in friends. Like, who does

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not watch friends? Not. I love Friends. Is that not everyone's

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backup show? So for Friends,

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it Are you about to say that's not for you? Yeah. It

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was kind of not really. Kind of. So when it came out,

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it obviously, it was in the nineties. I was, like, 12 or 13, I

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think. And, all

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of my friends watched it, but I wasn't allowed to because it wasn't

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like, it was probably in inappropriate, apparently.

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Yeah. Looking back now for sure. Yeah. But I didn't want

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I didn't so I didn't watch it until I was in my late twenties. And

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I did get, like, sucked in, but part of me feels like

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that maybe I got I just wanted to know what everybody else

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loved so much, and so I watched all of them. And I haven't I

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don't know. When I go back and watch them now, like you said, different stages

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of our lives, I go whack and watch them now, and I'm like, I don't

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know. Things make me cringe. But I could see that.

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Yeah. I don't know. Something's wrong. So, like, there's a there was a

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part of my a time in my life when it did fill, I guess, a

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need because I felt like I was kind of, like, able to get in with

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everybody else. That one is for sure. Train too. I would

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watch this too. That is for sure the one that's, like, a sense of community,

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a sense of being. You feel like they are your friends. Yes. I do. I

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feel like I'm in the apartment next door. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure

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that each of you have shows that are your comfort shows and your go

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to shows. And I'm just curious. Do you are any of the shows

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that we mentioned the ones that you guys find the comfort in and the ones

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that you guys find the community in? We're gonna post this on our social

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medias. Make sure you follow us on Facebook, on Instagram. You'll see

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some behind the scene photos, some videos, and tell us Yeah.

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What shows are not on our list that should be. I'd love to know because

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I, for sure, can share my list Yeah. From the 2 shows I normally watch.

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Yeah. I feel like this whole thing was a spoiler. But you know what?

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That's okay. Because I feel like once we get into the show, you're not gonna

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remember what we said. So You can spoil it. Go watch the shows. Alright,

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guys. So we had Lola. Lola, thank you so much for joining us today. Having

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me. I had so much fun. It was so fun. So Lola

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is gonna be basically our pop in cohost from time

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to time, because she has so much to add. And,

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it's just fun to have another perspective, honestly. So and that's that's what

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we want. So show her some love as well by following

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her drama free mama's group. Not your mama's mom group.

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Yes. And that will also be in our links. You can see it there.

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And let me just say, Lola and I have not met before.

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Okay. And she just was like, okay. Cool. I'm gonna go over to your house

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and, yeah. Sure. I'll talk on a podcast with you. I think Look at

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her. And it was like, honestly, I'm the most awkward person

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in the world. I will not walk up to someone and start a conversation. Anxiety?

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So much anxiety. I popped 2 anxiety pills before we hopped on here. I all

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did. I mean, Lola what? Lola?

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Lola. Lola just walked into my house, and it felt natural, and it felt

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normal. And I was like, once we sat down in front of the mic, so

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I just kinda looked at her and I was like This is it. I feel

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like, we met before. Like, we've hung out so many times. This is normal. It

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feels good. Right? Yeah. It does. Yeah. Because you never

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hardly make friends like that. You have that in con in connection with. It's

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like, oh. You know, refer to our, you know, last

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episode. Right. Right. Making friends in your thirties.

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Alright, guys. It's really nice to have y'all, and we will,

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talk to you soon. Bye. Bye, friends. If you like what you heard

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