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You guys, I like I can barely contain myself.

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Cause we have a very, very special

Guest of honor.

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So exciting

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So every so often we like to invite a special guest of honor on to share some

with our experience in their field, we have them Dawn, their Review Queen

And today we have got the renowned

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legendary talents of Mr.

Marc Tumminelli.

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Hi Marc!

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Hi!

Hi Trey.

Hi Chelsey.

Thank you for having me.

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It our honor.

It is honor.

I am particularly raspy today.

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enjoy.

Yay, me too,

You know, I'm feeling a little postnasal Adelaide.

Alright.

Let me tell you bit about Marc Tumminelli.

Marc is the founder of Broadway Workshop, New York's top training program for young artists.

say

Yeah, I would too.

In fact, I just did.

Marc is also considered one of the top acting coaches in New York with over 60 of

Marc also serves as an onset acting coach for Walt Disney pictures.

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What?

Additionally, Marc has become one of the go tos to adapt musicals for their licensable

my God.

...Oh I love 'Goodest Boy, Max.' That's very sweet.

Well, Trey, you know, I love you and Chelsey, I feel like we're old friends,

I feel the same way.

I listen to you guys every week.

It's so great to be here!

Marc Tumminelli.

We are so excited to have you here today.

I mean, I didn't know that you adapted musicals for the shorter, like school versions.

That's so cool.

So does that mean like when I was at camp and I was doing Guys and Dolls,

yes.

In short!

my How cool is that?

basically I just look at the show and be like, this song sucks we and get rid it.

I always just love when they're doing like Rent for kids or something, you know?

Like what do we

do?

Yeah.

I haven't worked on, well, that one I didn't do, but, um,

I know.

They two things out of it.

They

Oh my goodness.

They don't get bronchitis instead of HIV.

Right, right.

the high school versions are very tame, but these middle school, junior,

They're just like these kind of fun, easy to put together hour long

one of my favorite things I get to do.

So thanks for bringing it up.

I've had the privilege of seeing many of the presentations that Marc has worked on

Oh yeah.

the requirements vary.

Sometimes there'll be trimming songs here and there.

And sometimes it's actually like doing a lot of script doctoring.

Right?

Yeah, I do a lot of rewriting.

It depends.

What the project is sometimes it's just very easy cuts, spamalot was the world's

So you can just cut a full vignette or rewrite a slight joke.

But you know, other shows like We Will Rock You get really tricky to cut.

Curtains the musical was the hardest one I've ever done.

Cause

Wow.

like a murder going on.

So as soon as you get rid of a character, the whole thing falls apart, but

That's amazing.

Can you share a little bit about your company Broadway Workshop?

Yeah, I founded Broadway Workshop in, um, 2007, right before

time.

and we, uh, it was a great time to start a small business and actually it was

because no one was expecting anything

Yes.

but, uh, basically we do classes, workshops, camps, and productions

But since COVID, we have moved to everything virtually.

So not only are we doing classes and things in the studio, we also offer tons of zoom workshops with

And it just gives kids with an elevated interest in the performing arts, an opportunity

Where we can kick your butt a little bit, get you to the next level.

But we also remember that this is your after-school activity, and there are kids that

And so it's about finding this perfect balance between those two things.

I think we have really found that with, the kids that are attracted to Broadway Workshop and I'm

Oh, my God.

That's amazing.

When you're first starting, like how do you feel like you started to grow an audience

Cause that's such a like ambitious thing to do,

well, honestly, that is the work that never stops because every year I have

So I'm never, it's not like, oh, we've developed this product and we could just keep doing it.

right.

are constantly having to engage new kids.

And when I started, it was all word of mouth and it continues really to be, but one parent

do probably workshop instead.

that is how it really grows.

and then, you know, it's like some Facebook and Instagram Marketing and that continues to be the

Yeah.

And it's not ever money because I can certainly produce things cheaper.

I can get teachers who might have a lower rate,

Sure.

But aren't as good.

and so everything is always a bit about creating the best possible product and

And I think that is what you all are doing over at Review That Review, because I

Thank

you.

beautifully marketed and your episodes are so good.

you're just building the thing.

You're just pushing the wheel up the hill every week, a little more and more so

Yeah.

I mean, I think thank you.

You're so sweet to turn, like, what was basically like a kvell about you into a compliment

And I

think I oh, but I think you're talking about like the passion of it.

Like that's, what's so exciting.

Like obviously you're very passionate with helping these kids and I think

for

sure.

mentioned the power of the word of mouth,

Yeah.

is what we are so obsessed with over here.

Personally, Marc, how impacted are you in your decision-making by online reviews?

my God.

I am a Review!

reader.

If I am buying anything over the price of $50,

Yes.

reading like 10 different reviews.

I'm a researcher.

It took me like two months to buy a mattress I needed to read every review.

I needed to go sit on every, but I can't trust Raymour and Flanigan because a

Exactly.

example.

Like

Yeah.

it fresh out the box.

yeah,

yeah, I'm a Review!

person for bigger purchases.

I

uh, so gray.

uh, listeners will remember that our Splash at the Boathouse Review!

was actually curated by Marc Tumminelli.

Oh my God.

That that's right.

I love that Review.

That was such a good review because it was the perfect example of how these lower

reviews can't!'.

Well, yeah, but also yeah, as that, but also like how, not every one star review that's really

well, you got to look at many reviews because you have to

So it's like, I do a lot of restaurants.

I will say.

I look at a lot of restaurant reviews.

Yeah.

Do you ever like, worry about that?

Like being in the public eye, like, like, oh, people can just write a review about me like that.

Do you ever think about it?

do.

I do think about it quite a bit.

So if I'm having like about with a parent about something

Yeah.

refund or something that I know, and I'm a very ethical person.

So if I, if I do say so myself, but if I'm like, no, you're not getting, you just didn't show up

I'm not refunding you.

Like

Right.

that space to another,

Okay.

but it's sometimes it's like, true.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

It's like sometimes easier just to be like, I don't want to deal with you.

Yeah.

you to go to and write a negative review.

Just easier to like, just let's walk away from this, which kind of sucks for the parents who

And sometimes the same thing it's like, I miss the classes are mistake.

Let's figure out what we can do here.

Right, right.

I will say that sometimes it just makes the most sense.

I've worked in customer service, for very big ticketing company.

you know, I dealt with a lot of people calling and screaming and it's just like, how do we

Right.

and you get so much more and we all know this.

If like, you're really nice to somebody versus like cursing somebody out.

I've been, been on the wrong side of that a few

Yes.

I'm sure we all have.

it's nice to be kill people with kindness.

a lot,

love it.

a Review!.

I love to read a review.

I write a review

I was going to say, have you ever written like a one-star review of something?

Oh yeah.

Oh certainly.

I, I sh I probably, I think I have in the, oh, I have in the last like month,

I actually, yeah, your husband sent it to me.

what was it for?

I like don't even remember it.

Wasn't the.

like the appliance.

my God, that's it.

She called me be like, why would you write that?

Review!

my God.

the Review!.

She's like, I gave you everything back that you asked for.

I said, but is anything in my review?

A lie?

Like, did I

Yeah.

Where am I lying about anything?

She's like, no, I was like, well, then

then the public deserves to know

that's ballsy of them to

to call it yeah.

To call you and be like, why would you do that?

How about calling and saying, I saw that you wrote the serve you, I wanted to like, you know,

Maybe you would have taken it down.

I would have hundred percent taken it

Exactly.

I mean, that's the whole point full circle.

You win more flies with honey.

You know what I

mean?

There we go.

Alright.

So, Marc, you obviously know this because you are a listener and we love you for

as a warmup, we like to show our diversity as RQs, by sharing how we

So many.

judging.

Marc, I have a big ask for you.

you like to join us as we,

Lodge A Complaint.

Yes.

oh my God, Yay.

Okay, great.

Thank God.

He said, yes,

God.

I was worried.

Okay So I today really need to lodge a complaint against

Yes.

experience like you're laying in bed and you're trying to charge

You could just see as like

an

Trey.

You better leave

You better leave that.

and it's just it's it's like, Two, then you have to like roll on one side

It's just, it's awful.

I don't understand who came up with the actual lengths for which power cords standard

Yeah.

I was going to say like, do you think that there's like a focus group where

I know with apple, you can buy a, um, they have to, they do have a longer

I know ridiculous.

just, I'm lodging a complaint against power cords that are

you thought matter how long it would be would never be long enough.

Yes.

I have actually thought about that.

I mean, that's very true to life, right.

Yeah.

What a metaphor.

that's my complaint.

I'm lodging it.

Please.

Someone help us another shark tank idea.

Oh my God.

Adding it to the ledger.

Totally agree.

I personally just wish that all power cords were like retractable,

Like

on iron irons

I want it as long as exactly.

I want to, as long as I want it when I want it that long, you know what I mean?

And then if I just want it short, I can make it short.

Like I would pay more for the product.

Why is it not, I don't know.

Trey just said he wouldn't pay $10 extra for the long cord.

I have as the problem,

you pay for retractable though?

A retractable cord.

I mean, who wouldn't

pay for that?

Alright Marc, what about you?

Is there something you would like to complain

Yeah.

I want to complain about the company Quip and their toothbrushes.

Oh no.

Are they bad?

Tell me

I'm very obsessed with teeth.

So the Quip company is actually fabulous.

I, I just, switched to equip this year.

Okay.

And within like a couple of weeks, like it wouldn't do the full three-minute

Okay.

the battery.

Same thing was happening.

I emailed them, they responded immediately and they

Great.

something wrong here.

We'll send you a fresh one new one coming in the mail.

I'm like, oh, that's so nice.

They're like, just throw out your old one and like, whatever.

So I throw out the old one, got the new one it's happening again.

no.

now here's, there's two things.

I brushed my teeth more than a normal person.

I

You're really putting this to the test,

the full test.

a battery life.

So it's fine.

I can change my own battery.

The problem is it is so hard to get

Um,

out of the

you have a tail.

that

like,

clap

Oh,

cannot separate these two things.

And now I'm only sitting there thinking what is going to happen when I'm older, when

oh yeah.

there's no way these are the things that I think about all day

Oh God.

able to do this in my seventies, late seventies,

I can barely Do it now.

Yeah.

So my issue with Quip is like, there needs to come a better way.

Maybe you can turn it to the left and something needs to happen, but you can not get, the other

She has to order online or

what?

Well, when you

months.

comes with a toothpaste it comes with the floss.

I don't want their toothpaste

Oh,

own toothpaste.

I just want extra heads because I'm going to change it

oh, that's ridiculous.

This is like all sounding very wasteful to me.

You know, throw the old toothbrush.

months, it's just, got to say, I think I'm looking at some regular old back to

I going to say, go back to the Sonicare man.

I

have the Sonicare.

like it's great.

I know it's a lot.

Me too.

I

hate that part.

So good

Wow.

Quip, but that it is exceedingly difficult to pull it apart.

I've.

But I do love the product.

It's very good.

And the customer service is excellent.

So lodging, a complaint

Yeah,

easier to remove.

they should really listen to this and change these things about their products.

Cause it seems like they're doing a lot, right.

Please tag them in the show

notes.

sure.

I just want to talk a little bit, cause I feel like this was a big topic back in the

Like if I'm reading like a New York times article or something, and then all of a sudden

Like just stop it, I can't stand it.

It's really annoying.

Or the popups that like move with you.

So you're trying to like do some sort of like, I don't know, online Jenga

What is this?

particularly bad.

If you're a theater lover and you check out playbill.com, is the worst pop-up situation.

New York times is pretty bad

A'..

it's a it's rough stuff.

It's like, yeah.

Get out of here.

And then sometimes there's like a hidden ex you got to find the fucking hidden necks.

or the X is there and you hit it and it takes you to the

Oh yes.

Well, cause you didn't hit the X, right?

You hit the X a little bit to the right of the X and now you're at an ad landing page.

It's ridiculous.

feel your Chelsey.

Thank

you.

feel you too.

That, that is like a thing.

It's like a constant aggravator as you're just trying to seek knowledge

Yeah.

Just trying to read an article, learn some things, you know?

we go.

So, Marc, since you coach for youth.

Today, brought it in a Review!

that we're really gonna need your expertise on.

Okay.

Yes.

have one star Yelp review for...

I'm nervous to say the company name.

I'm going to just say the company.

Okay.

So I have a one-star Yelp review for Barbizon youth acting and modeling

great.

California, that I feel really needs to be inspected.

So how it works here is I'm going to read the review.

We're going to break it down together.

all three of us will rate the impact on a scale from one to five crowns.

And this is a very Regal process that we like to call.

Assess that Kvetch!

And it's your turn Marc to embody your Review Queen ness and help us crown trays.

Our view.

Are you ready for the challenge

am ready.

Review That Review.

Okay.

So today I have a one-star review from Dolores L

Delores L.

from Yelp.

This is for Barbizon acting and modeling.

And here we go.

Honestly, I was really excited and interested in this, but just wait.

Me and my mom got approached by an older guy in Walmart telling us that

He said that it was a short line I had to say, and that it was going to be at the Marriott hotel.

He gave us an invitation that seemed legit.

The next day I went there and about 25 kids there.

We all went up and said our line.

After that we walked down the stage went to this table.

And all they said was, if we like you, we will call you within the week.

About a week later, they gave us a address to a acting school.

We went there and waited a long time.

The girl came finally late about an hour and called us in and said, sorry, her grandpa died.

And she lost track of time.

Really all a con.

She told me to stand in the corner, T H E E and say my line, I did,

I was really nervous and still asleep.

Oh!

I forgot.

There was another kid there waiting as well.

I noticed her from the audition.

Not to be mean, but she was not good at all.

She looked down the whole time and whispered her line and wouldn't stop shaking her leg.

They said that they only picked three out of everyone that was there.

Ummm...

pretty weird.

Anyways I was really bad in the audition in the corner and she smiled really big.

It kind of scared me and clapped and said, "amazing!"

She told us the whole procedure then told us the cost $3,000 for the whole six months.

My mom was willing to do whatever made me happy.

The girl told me I can pay now.

Or in six months I was going to do the six months thing.

I told my friend about it.

She told me they came up to her about four years ago in a mall and told

They auditioned and everything.

They both made it.

Their cost was $10,000 for both of them.

Their mom did it for them.

They went through with everything.

Then on the last part, the final audition with a bunch of agents in the front row.

They both did it and a bunch of agents went up to her sister telling her that she was amazing told

They never called her, and her mom wasted $10,000 for nothing.

think God for my friend, because luckily my mom didn't waste her money too.

All caps.

This is just a huge money hungry scam.

Don't go here.

Please.

And it's also weird that for all the reviews, I've read all the money prices is different.

Delores Delores, Delores.

How old do we think Dolores is?

I think she's like 14, maybe 13.

I think Dolores has an early teen, sorry.

I had a hard time reading that because it really is like, there's maybe five periods in this.

It's all run on sentences with no capitalizations, but I, something about my

And she's like, everyone be careful.

Yeah

is looking out for Dolores.

guys.

I mean, I know it's not the most important thing about the serve you, but I just feel like Dolores

Okay.

I mean, I know it's at the, well, so call her Dolores for the sake of this

Well, this is something I tell the parents about all the time.

This is like a very real scam that happens with lot of different companies like this.

And John Robert Powers, there used to be something called the star network and they're all.

Basically scams, where they go up to people in malls, they go out to people at targets.

They say, you want to be an actor?

Yeah.

this open Disney call where they say Disney call they'll post it.

You can go to their websites.

And then it's always at a hotel.

my God.

it's, shady.

it's so shady.

And normally it's jeez, Dolores, our friend saying there's only 25 kids.

There it's normally like hundred kids there.

I was going to say I was shocked that it was so little,

Um, it was probably a bad day at Barbara's on.

So um, they, they give the kids like a commercial to read.

And then a lot of times what they do is they give them a sticker that says

That like you've made it past round one.

they, they make it feel like the whole time you're auditioning until they sit you down

And it only costs $1,100.

right, right, right.

Wow.

the, do you know the famous bait and switch of, you know,

If they bought the thousand dollar package,

So they're eliminating people presumably, right.

Or like,

I don't think they're, they're not eliminating anyone.

Yeah.

I think they're telling that to add the pressure,

okay.

three people

Oh, got it.

But they're really saying that to everybody.

Ugh.

That's so gross.

Poor Dolores,

they want to hear their kid's a star they want,

right?

thinks their kid is gorgeous and talented and has

Sure.

Of course.

and then there are kids who actually do have talent in something special and

They are getting in

Well,

of these people,

yeah.

what cost.

Yeah.

Well, I was wondering about that because when they talked about the

do think

and the things that I

Or like assistance or something?

And yeah, there assistance there,

Yeah.

and the chances are, even if someone's really talented,

Right,

a call.

We used to do an industry, showcase a free showcase every year and

we'd have like 300 kids audition.

We'd put 40 showcase kids in the showcase and it was completely free to be in it.

They didn't have

right.

Um, and we were doing that so that we could meet new kids.

We'd have like

Yeah.

new kids we met.

But out of those 40 that we thought were really Marcetable, maybe 15 got callbacks.

Right.

you know what I mean?

It's like, even if you have it and you're great, doesn't mean that an agent is looking

Right,

it's, or they really just want really tiny kids.

Yeah.

like that.

it's interesting to me because I have a very close friend

Okay.

on.

they actually do teach, it is all inside of this huge financial commitment that's required.

But because Dolores is presumably young, I mean,

they were the one that was scouted.

Right.

perspective here because we have our own personal opinions of what

But from Dolores, his point of view and this Review!

we think that the information is valuable?

Yeah.

Very.

think about it.

If your parent, is the other thing, why it's so great that we have and this

Is this a real thing.

I always tell parents who probably works out cause we have a lot of kids come from all

And the last day I do this whole thing about you're ever asked to pay

Red flag.

good to be true, it is too good

Yeah.

And if you have a question, email me and I will let you know.

So

Right,

get emails randomly, like, Hey, I got stopped to do this thing.

I'm like, yeah, this is just a community theater.

right.

Yeah,

a $200 fee to be in the show like,

sure.

Oh, gross.

star and it costs $800 a month.

And I'm gonna put your picture in this book, that was like a big thing in the eighties

yeah.

of like coming up, um, it was faces international was the big

Yeah.

Was that the one that was like at like reproductions?

Like they would have like those books, I think in the waiting rooms till,

yeah.

this huge book and you paid $250 or $500 if you wanted a full page.

And

Oh my God.

the agents and casting, my dad took me in to faces international and

my God.

Like you meet with all the people, but they're like, but for $500, you

Wow.

And then of course it all got

So gross.

Elliot Gould was on the commercials.

Oh my God.

as international commercial, put it on the Patreon

Oh yes.

I just think it's so sad.

There's something, you know, obviously there are acting programs that are out there that

then a parents.

And then a parent's love for the child

just feels so

gross to me.

Yeah.

think she's very good.

And she knows she's like, I am suck.

I just was along for the

ride.

I wanted to talk to you about that So like, do you think that it's possible

I think it's like a kid who just doing it for fun.

Yeah.

oh, it was really bad.

Like they do the school play and they're like, well, my God, it was so embarrassing.

It was like so bad.

I was great.

be good.

I feel like sometimes the kids that are like, oh my God, I'm so bad end up being

And the kids that like really care and like really want to be great are really trying.

They just look not natural and good, but if you're like onstage and like,

This is dumb.

Maybe that actually looks real.

So I wonder if Dolores is being a little bit harsh on herself here.

Well, like as much as they say they want like real kids, they don't, they want

Okay.

that look real and are not annoying, but are good actors,

Right, right,

gritty, real kids.

I'm like, yeah, but you need them to present.

Well,

right, right.

kids.

So

True.

seems to me like salt of the earth.

She's a real kid.

sure she's working at a

For sure.

Yes.

it reminds me of how Audrey Hepburn famously said that every single day

But I

Right.

That's not what's happening here.

that's one line of dialogue that they had to act was.

Oh my God.

it would probably is like, my stomach always hurts.

But now with your children's Tylenol, my stomach feels great.

It's like, it's always, it's always problem and a solution.

Right.

a worst lunch, but now with new Lunchables, lunch is

Oh my God.

It's like, someone's always bad at something.

And then they get real good at it.

That's

hilarious.

Yes.

Dr.

Dolores.

atrocious.

I

Awful.

their mom's iPhone, typing it in, like, this is insane.

This girl, like she's really bad not to be mean.

Yes,

I do think that Delores is being truthful

do tail.

Marc was alluding to doesn't sound like Dolores has a lot, a lot in the game here.

I think Dolores was like, this could be fun for Saturday like, oh, but I'm like a bad actor.

Right, right, right.

this is bad this is a lot of money.

So for that reason, it sounds to me like Delores is being very truthful.

I do think Dolores has.

Yeah.

I think we could try.

I just wonder, like, if we're writing this as an assay, why the first point of con was

that was

like

a weird part.

right

thing.

AF okay.

It says, came finally late about an hour and called us in and said, sorry, her grandpa died.

And she lost track of time.

Really?

All a con,

all con so like why, like, why like, is that the first piece of evidence?

Like there's so many other

she doesn't believe that she was late because her grandfather died.

She thought she was

that

some other BS.

that's

the con that's

with a Starbucks.

right.

like, I don't

believe your grandfather died.

mourning a grandpa looks like.

know.

I just thought that

was So funny.

humor on the Review!.

How do we feel?

I think it's incidentally humorous.

Yeah.

Anecdotal

again.

Yeah.

So ultimately before we go into crowning, what do you think?

Like, would you find this to be a deal breaker for you?

Like if you were a parent?

Yeah, I would

why I love that.

Dolores is like not an angry mom.

Right.

Love.

it's like, this is a scam.

Yeah.

I mean, when I heard the name Delores and one SAR, I just assumed that this was going to be a

And I love that it was from the kid's perspective.

Yeah.

All right.

So I think I'm ready to cry now.

How do

I'm ready to crown.

Yeah, sure.

Alright.

on a scale from one to five crowns, we will simultaneously reveal

Queens are Tabulating.

whoa.

wow.

That's first

I w

queen.

I want to honor Dolores because maybe she

Yeah, I think so, too.

on Review That Review.

I want to see Dolores.

I want to see if she is really bad.

Cause I have a feeling she's not

What if I like found Delores and made her a star

think should

make Delores a start.

She's like,

' Marc Tumminelli: And now I'm in

Literally.

said four crowns because ultimately I feel like Delores really led from a protective heart

Yes,

while they didn't really do any auto, correct,

didn't do any grammar.

a huge punch to Delores as Review!.

yeah.

to take the one crown off because, uh, it, needs she needs

But, um, that's why I said four because I would not want to take any of my loved ones here.

What about you Chelsey?

Why did you say four.

I really love Dolores.

I mean, when I was a kid, I was like a chubby kid.

So I was never the one that was approached by any of these people.

And I was always like a little bit jealous.

I wanted to be approached in the mall or the Walmart and I wasn't.

And I feel like Dolores really took me through that whole process.

Like I could now write a lifetime movie about the process of being

And I think it's a real cautionary tale.

I love the fact that it's, from the kid's perspective, I think any parent reading this would

I took off the crown for, you know, spelling and grammar and the fact that she called

So other than that, I thought that Delores was a real queen.

And for crowns to Dolores,

what about you, Marc?

Why did you say four?

I feel like any kid who's taking pen to paper or in this

yes,

to iPhone, you know, deserves a little something special

agree.

kids are not, I think kids should review

I agree.

Yeah.

Amazing.

Let's take a quick break.

And when we return, Marc has agreed to share a view that he himself has received.

Wow.

Ooh, I can't wait for that.

All right, we'll right, back.

Hold your crown.

we'll be right back.

All right, we are back.

And now it's time to get a little more personal Marc.

We asked you to bring a personal review in with you today.

That was either a harsh critic or an MVR, most valuable reviewer.

Basically a negative or a positive review, so we will together.

Assess That Kvetch!

And then just like before Marc, we will ask you to share with

So, Marc, what Review!

did you bring in for us today?

So I picked a review from Alison Brooks Admunson, who is a,

And then she also sent her daughter to New York to do multiple camps with us.

and it just was a nice review and it was the first thing that popped out it's from August 25th, 2020.

And as I mentioned, I don't have negative reviews, but it's not because people don't like me.

Wait, it's not because people don't hate me.

Plenty of people hate me, but, um, they just haven't taken to the internet with it yet.

I hope that this is not an invitation.

it's not.

write nasty reviews about

Don't do it.

Don't you dare.

All right.

So Chelsey is going to read it.

I'm so excited.

Yes.

I will read this Facebook.

Review!

from Alison Brooks, Adamson for Broadway Workshop.

I cannot say enough good things about Broadway Workshop!

For one, Marc Tumminelli is a legend.

He is so down to earth and makes the kids feel like they have known him forever.

He understands that many students come to workshop full of anxiety.

His warm and friendly personality puts them at ease immediately.

He is such an encourager.

Marc's guest teachers are also amazing.

In six years of attending Broadway Workshop camps, not once, have we ever

From Camp Kentucky to NYC workshops, he brings the best of Broadway wherever he goes.

Aw,

so sweet.

Isn't

that's so nice.

I love that.

I just think there's so many great things in the serve you that if I were like a parent or

that would make me feel better.

Like I love the Alison address, the anxiety, because, you know, especially when I was a

Yeah, I actually it's.

interesting in contrast with Dolores is Review!

because I felt that there was so much unknown with Dolores and what

here is that the experience is very positive.

It's very encouraging.

And the whole idea of anxiety.

I feel like any there's.

I mean, there's so much anxiety that becomes around performance, getting in front of

And Alison really speaks to how Broadway Workshop cultivates a, an

I love this Review!

I think it's very valuable.

I also believe Alison, it seems like they are very invested in the product,

Yes.

It's very sweet.

Cause our, our program in Kentucky is meat going to Kentucky with like four other.

You know, teaching artists and doing a week long intensive, and you know, it's kids

So it's a very different It's a very different way of the way the workshops work.

It's all very different.

And so for a kid to, and it's very elevated for what they might be getting locally, even though

Um, and it feels like they're nervous because they're going to do a theater camp

Of course.

I believe they have been with us from our very first year there.

So they were trying a new thing and here we were coming in and every year I brought different, you

And it was really fun.

And then some of those kids kind of banded together and were like, we're going to go to New

Like, you know, obviously different families have different situations that allow them

But for a lot of these kids, like, that'll be, it they'll do probably workshop and 99.9% of them

And we just have this little week together as five days together.

And that is, it's a really special thing to be part of, uh, some artistic excellence a young

it's as exciting to me as the kids that decide that they want to move

I love

that.

There's so many things that she says that I think are helpful for a parent that are deciding

I love the fact that they've returned for six years.

That makes me feel like they're really genuine.

Like really makes me trust.

Alison BA.

Yeah.

That's a really great point.

I think like the repetition of, the relationship here speaks volumes, honestly,

And that light before doing six years.

And they've never been disappointed in the quality of the staff, then that's

For sure.

Yeah.

I love that.

The only thing, like the only sort of I have here, maybe for Alison is like,

Yeah.

I'm not having a lot of humor in the

No, I'm not like bowled over.

I'm

not laughing.

me is when, when we're talking about someone's children,

It's not funny.

know it's not like,

it's not

No,

thing.

in unclear of what sheet music was,

exactly,

exactly.

of funny Review!.

Yeah.

that's

as a Review because I don't even know if it's a

applicable.

Yeah.

I don't know if it comes into play here.

I'm just looking at other reviews and none of them are funny.

Yeah.

I don't think they need to be.

Another thing that I liked about Alison BA was I know that we've talked about you working

And so I think that that would be interesting to me if I was from somewhere outside of New York

for sure.

Yeah.

anything else you want to add to this before we crown

No, it's so weird to be like, I'm amazing.

Do you guys listen to this amazing Review!

I would have loved

Well,

a really negative review and told you this backstory, but

right.

have that sadly.

Well, no, I'm glad I don't have that, but no, it's really nice.

It's really, this is like for anyone listening, that things you love and especially the small

I just wrote a five-star Google review because it's like the best

And I'm so worried they're going to close, but that's like the thing, if you find

Yeah.

a small business that you know, who owns it, know, it's not the cheesecake

Right, right, right.

businesses really rely on someone saying, or like a mom and pop or hotel,

Go to Yelp, go to whatever their Facebook and see some positive things.

So if anything, I could say they Review!

means a lot to me, like all, all of the reviews you, because I own my own little business and

And I try to pay that back wherever I can, with small businesses that,

really is a perfect example of the power that we possess as consumers.

And we have a lot of what we'll call cheater brands that have

Wow.

when I started probably workshop, there was like me and one other program, it was

Right,

thing did not exist that everyone had an acting school.

So, you know, I encourage parents to look at a legacy of a program.

this been around two years?

Has it been around 15

right,

has this program made.

Do you know, stars has this program made students great college students.

right, right, right.

been a place where kids could feel safe and just have their weekend activity

You know,

Yeah,

like mine where it's like that person does not have anything to do with this.

right, I mean, I liked that you brought that up Marc, because your,

Obviously the, or your page rather

is, is a great URL, but we trust Alison BA because immediately after she says

And now automatically I know that there's a human being behind this organization.

That's probably why I like it so much.

Well, I also

Yeah,

that, it isn't like, it doesn't sound ego because it

no,

to Minnelli school of drama,

like there's something

Should I start that

think you should.

Why not?

At this point you've earned it, but I can.

crown at.

Let's do it.

Queens are Tabulating.

Oh my God.

We did it again.

Four and a half crowns, four and a half crowns.

Love it.

I did four and a half crowns.

I love this.

Review!

from Alison BA it takes a little bit of extra special sauce to make a full

I think it would be a little bit more of a detail about Allison's kid and like what it

But other than that real perfection, how about you, Trey?

What'd you think?

I had a similar thought I'm just sort of removing humor completely

Right.

don't find that I feel this way often, but I would love a dash more

Yes.

taking.

yeah, it's a nice general.

Review!

definitely get the positive sense of the impact for six years, which is huge.

So that's why I said four and a half.

It's so close to

and I

close.

Nadia Adamson.

Who's the daughter of Alison

Oh,

just a great kid.

And I love her so much.

just like a Ray of sunshine

oh, Nadia.

Marc, thank you

You're the best.

Alright.

We are reaching towards the end of the episode, but before we

Yes

Marc it's time for us to get serious and crank up the heat.

Yeah.

Can you take it, Marc?

Are you ready?

You know, I am

So, Marc, we've got some serious questions for you,

All It's time for some strong opinions.

We want to hear your first gut reaction answer.

There is no wrong answer.

Just your immediate response.

Chelsey and I will alternate pulling questions out of our respective Kvetcher hats.

Guys, you have so much cool stuff

Thank you.

We're gonna put 30 seconds on and you, Marc, will try to answer as

Okay.

Okay.

3, 2, 1, GO!

Ok Marc!

under or over?

Marc, if you got food poisoning from a restaurant, would you go back?

Is cereaI soup?

No

What does green tastes like?

mint.

How do you pronounce G I F

Jeff.

Would you see a doctor with a four-star rating?

Yes.

Sophie's choice, Clueless or Mean Girls.

Clueless.

TripAdvisor.

or Yelp?

IPhone or Android.

iPhone.

I'm Not psychopath.

That's All.

Great job.

Wow.

That was a lot

could have done more.

You guys just needed to

less N okay.

All right.

Fine

one more?

Cause I love these

I, this is fun.

Free tattoo from a three-star tattoo shop.

Yes or no.

Uh, no, no, thank you.

No, thank you.

top sheet or no, top sheet.

No top sheet

Agree.

Thank you.

your most ex rate you,

10 out of 10 baby.

Yeah.

Okay.

A person with a elite reviewer status.

Is that a turn on or turn off?

On!

Yes.

Turn on, daddy.

Have you ever asked speak with the manager?

Yes,

Is a hot dog a sandwich?

No,

Absolutely not.

Okay.

If animals could talk which would be the rudest

my dog that is sleeping right such a grumble, Gus.

Okay.

What is more trustworthy?

Something that has only one star reviews, or something that has only five star reviews,

The one-star review, I think.

right.

Something suspicious.

such a,

You know, we do something like this on my podcast, but everyone

I'll be like favorite place to go on vacation.

Oh,

Well, maybe we'll make it a little longer than 30 seconds in the future.

Yeah.

I mean, cause we, we, we want to limit the time.

Cause there's something about that clock that really just makes

you like give that answer.

You got to have a

clock,

it from you guys?

Please steal.

we are very thrilled to share with you that you've

It's true.

You have welcome.

queen before all of this.

Welcome to the queendom.

So, here we are, Marc.

we have reached the most Regal portion of show.

Is

If there's.

that you find to be deserving of five stars that you

My Royal Highness!

Oh yes.

Are you

Yes.

Yes.

television.

Great.

Robert Stack, you might remember from Unsolved Mysteries.

was podcasts that you and I never said.

Correct.

I love Unsolved Mysteries so much.

The original show that aired through the late eighties through the

I have watched them and rewatch them.

They never get boring to me.

And Robert Stack is a gift.

He is truly the most terrifying human being that ever walked the face of the earth.

And he just is walking and talking to the camera, saying things a little bit wrong, and

I, I gotta tell you wherever he is right now, he's looking down and going, Marc.

Thank you for keeping my love alive.

I love

that.

rewatch all season 12 yesterday.

Okay.

Oh my what, what year was this?

That's like 91.

He's also in the movie airplane, which is the funniest movie of

Oh,

So we know this man is like terrifying, but also a comic genius.

I don't know The Untouchables well, but Unsolved Mysteries, Robert stack, uh,

let a guy

Royal Highness.

it.

honestly, Robert Stack's voice.

Anytime I hear it, it's like an instant trap door to being in my child at home and being terrified.

I can hear his narration and it instantly scares me.

His voice is so scary.

He also is

I can't.

internet and he goes, check out www.unsolved.com, but

my God.

can you find a clip

God.

Love

that.

Yes.

Marc!

Thank you so much for joining us today.

It's been an honor.

Thank you for having me.

What a dream.

Congratulations on your fabulous podcast.

Thank

tell all of the listeners where they can find you.

Well, go ahead and follow me @MarcTumminelli on Instagram, but also check

Also rate, subscribe, download.

I don't really care if you listen to it, just rate, subscribe, download,

Yes.

and you can also see what's happening at Broadway Workshop

Me, Little Me, and, uh, Broadway Workshop

And, uh, some favorite recent episodes of Little Me: Growing Up

International sensation Debbie Gibson.

Stop

it.

can't shake your love

Debbie give summons my first concert ever.

I'm obsessed with Debbie Gibson.

I hugged Debbie Gibson at like four years old backstage.

It's a thing we got to talk about in the aftershow

to saying, okay.

to my episode with her, it's a scream.

I'm a huge fan.

So it

my God.

a dream to get to talk to

her.

dig deep into that in the after show, for sure.

Uh, but Marc has crazy A-List guests on his podcast.

He's an amazing interviewer.

So check it out.

That's very sweet.

Yes.

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