It's time for Barbecue Nation with jt.
Speaker ASo fire up your grill, light the charcoal, and get your smoker cooking.
Speaker ANow from the Turn It, Don't Burn it studios in Portland.
Speaker AHere's jt.
Speaker BHey, everybody.
Speaker BWelcome to the nation.
Speaker BI jt, along with my co host, Leanne Whippen, hall of Famer.
Speaker BThere'll be new news next week about hall of Fame inductees this year.
Speaker CToo exciting.
Speaker BSo that's exciting.
Speaker BComing to you from the Turn It, Don't Burn it studios in Portland and Tampa.
Speaker BToday, we've got a friend of the show and we've been on here a number of times, and it's always great information.
Speaker BStan Hayes from Operation Barbecue Relief.
Speaker BStan and his crew are coming up in my neck of the woods in June, but they've got other stuff going on, so we're going to cover everything for the next hour.
Speaker BStan, welcome.
Speaker DThank you, guys.
Speaker DI appreciate you having me back on.
Speaker BNo problem.
Speaker BSo let's take it from the top.
Speaker BYou're coming back up here in June.
Speaker BI think it's the 14th.
Speaker BThat area working with Alena Casino, they have a big barbecue fest.
Speaker BAena does, and Stan's been part of it now for several years with obr.
Speaker BAnd it's kind of interesting what you do, and I'm just going to let you tell us about it.
Speaker DYeah, well, you know, we were one of the, you know, inaugural groups, if you will, that were part, that was part of the barbecue fest.
Speaker DAnd what we ended up doing, you know, we've done vending, we've done classes there, we've done demos.
Speaker DAnd, and this year, instead of, you know, doing the same class that we've been doing, like a barbecue academy one day class on a couple of different meets, you know, one of the things that we've been hearing is, man, I'd like to learn more about vending or, hey, how you guys do this.
Speaker DAnd we thought, why don't we put together a class, the business of barbecue vending?
Speaker DYou know, what it takes to, you know, really put on, you know, and go to an event, you know, so what we're going to do is we're going to talk to them about, you know, how we price things, how we, you know, how we figure out how much we're going to take based on what they believe the, the attendance is going to be for an event and really get into, you know, how we plan for it before we ever get there.
Speaker DYou know, what we're looking to buy, you know, why we choose, why we're choosing, what we're choosing for the event and you know, we're going to do, know this year we're going to do two different meats, you know, for this and, and we were asked to do ribs as one of them pork ribs and, and put on the show because when we, when you do pork ribs, you know, you just can't pull them out, slice them and hand them to them.
Speaker DYou got to have the, the grill out front and caramelize them and do, do some of that show with it to really bring people over.
Speaker DBut if we can get beef ribs, I don't know that somebody's going to spend the amount of money you want for a beef rib, but, man, they make great sliders too.
Speaker DSo we're looking at doing a beef slider.
Speaker DWe're not sure what it's going to be, whether it'll be that, whether it'll be brisket, whether it'll be chuck roast or, you know, beef clod.
Speaker DI mean, it could be, you know, and we're looking at that.
Speaker DYou know, obviously we're trying to use our relationships and get everything donated.
Speaker DSo all the proceeds benefit the organization.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker DYou know, ALA has been great to work with over the years and they really, you know, they're really working with us to make this happen.
Speaker DI'm doing this with a team of volunteers.
Speaker DI'm not going to bring in any of my team this year.
Speaker DI'm bringing in some of the people that we've been training in our lead positions that want to do more on disaster.
Speaker DSo these are, these are people that have already stepped up to do more.
Speaker DAnd so it's a little bit of a thank you, but a little bit of hey, thank you with work involved.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DAnd for us, you know, they will, we'll go through that business of barbecue piece, but then we're going to get them hands on.
Speaker DYou know, we'll, we'll tell them why and show them why we do what we do around.
Speaker DLike I said, you know, to me, at a festival like that, if you're not out front with a, with a big party grill based in the ribs so they can smell it, see it, you know, and, and then passing those ribs over to get cut for those people, you're missing out on an opportunity because that draws people in at those events, you know, and then the little things that we've learned over the years about, about this, we want to be able to give to them.
Speaker DSo, yeah, it's, it's, it's a good way to get our, get volunteers and get People engaged.
Speaker DBut it's also a way that people that may have interest in vending and getting more involved in barbecue of how to do that can learn.
Speaker BI think there's two important things you need to include in this.
Speaker BThey need to bring.
Speaker BBring two books, their checkbook and their prayer book.
Speaker BBecause if you get the numbers wrong, you know what that means?
Speaker DOh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker DYou know, and, and you know, we're going off of experience, you know, because we've done this.
Speaker DNow, the vending side of it, like I think three out of five years, this will be the third one.
Speaker DAnd, and we know what, what our numbers have been in the past and we know what other vendors did like.
Speaker DAnd we also.
Speaker DLast year they got caught off guard.
Speaker DLast year was one of the years I didn't vend and they got caught off guard because Ala na gave all their high rollers like a $50 seed, you know, because they do it all off of a little wristband, you know, where you tap and pay well.
Speaker DThey gave all of those high rollers, I'll call them a dollar fifty, you know, like credit.
Speaker BRight, right.
Speaker DAnd then, you know, they hook their credit card up to it.
Speaker DI mean, they threw.
Speaker DFlew through money because the way you can just go around tapping stuff and tapping for beer, tapping for food, tapping for this.
Speaker DBut what they weren't anticipating is they didn't know about that 50 bump.
Speaker DAnd that was about 200 and something people that got that and vendors were flying.
Speaker DI mean, food was flying off.
Speaker DI was sitting there behind the scenes and with our class last year grilling extra tri tips for one of the groups because they were so far behind that they needed proteins, you know, and they were bringing them over and we're grilling them and having the students help with it, you know, to, to keep up with the demand.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker DSo I mean, it, it's always a logistical nightmare.
Speaker DYou know, I'm actually, you know, right now I'm using their equipment and they don't have a lot of big equipment.
Speaker DSo I'm going to be pre cooking some stuff, you know.
Speaker DAnd you know, the nice thing about combi ovens is, man, you can't tell the difference when you reheat something in the combi versus, you know, other other ways.
Speaker DBut you know, I'm still the kind of guy that would like to be pulling off ribs fresh, you know, throwing them on that grill and doing that.
Speaker DSo I'm working to try to find an old hickory up in that area that we can get up in there to be in our Spot.
Speaker BWe're, you know, we're.
Speaker BExcuse me.
Speaker BThere's a saying around here.
Speaker BIt's been here for years.
Speaker BKeep Portland weird.
Speaker BAnd there's merit to that on a lot of different issues and levels.
Speaker BBut we're not huge.
Speaker BHuge barbecue country like Kansas City, if you like.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd so sometimes it's hard.
Speaker BI mean there's some vet vendors that sell those types of cookers, but they're not always readily available up here.
Speaker BI mean if you, if you wanted a Weber kettle or even a Traeger, you're in the home turf right here.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BSo it's, it's tough on that the, and they've moved it up this year, haven't they?
Speaker BDate wise from previous.
Speaker DSo they, it's, it's really moving it back to where you.
Speaker DIt was in the earlier years.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker DLast year they, they were, they were way, you know, they moved back over a month, about six weeks further back.
Speaker DAnd, and it's, you know, just things that are going on.
Speaker DThey've had a lot of, gone through a lot of management change at Alanae from the casino side and looking at it and, and you, you'll notice this year's Barbecue Fest does not have the slew of, of celebrity chefs that it has in the past.
Speaker DYou know, it's got, it's got some influencers and it has some, you know, people that, that have, you know, big networks and stuff.
Speaker DBut it doesn't, it's, it's not the, you know, you're not going to see Michael Simon or.
Speaker DWell, at least I've been told you're not going to see Michael Simon or, or Jet Tila or these others that they've been bringing in over the last few years as they've gotten, this has gotten larger and larger.
Speaker DI mean they, they're expecting over 5,000 people between Saturday and Sunday and they're, they're four hour SL.
Speaker DSo you bought, you know, you buy your ticket for a four hour slot to come there and it'll be Sunday, you know, Saturday afternoon, Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon.
Speaker DSo.
Speaker BWell, it's a, it's a big event.
Speaker BI mean it's turned into a big event.
Speaker DThey're still doing the barbecue contest, you know, and, and they've expanded that to, to, for bigger space to bring in more teams and, and they want to grow that more as well.
Speaker BYeah, well, they've got the money to do it.
Speaker CWhy did they cut the celebrity chefs?
Speaker DThey did, they didn't, they didn't see the, the need for at least the full number of them and didn't see a cop.
Speaker DYou know, the, the, the reciprocal increase in, in attendance.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DFor having those big names.
Speaker DAnd so they're like, hey, why are we spending money to bring these people, big money to bring these people in when we're not seeing like a huge spike in the numbers?
Speaker DBecause we have these people.
Speaker DAnd so they've been playing with them with different festivals and not having as many of the big names and numbers haven't gone down.
Speaker DPeople are coming out for the food, for the experience.
Speaker DAnd not necessarily, you know, because somebody like Michael Simon or Aaron Mayer is getting up on stage and doing a demo.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, And I can understand that.
Speaker BI mean, it's, it's, it's great to have them.
Speaker BThey're a wealth of information and personality and all that.
Speaker BBut again, that kind of keep Portland weird crowd, even though it's across the river in Vancouver, if you will.
Speaker BBut you know what I mean, it's just those things have never been huge, huge draws.
Speaker BAnd I understand why they did it, but I understand why they brought them in originally.
Speaker BBut I think they're right.
Speaker BAnd I think you're right there, Stan, that if it made a difference of a 15% bump in your audience, the cost might be worth it, you know, but if you're not seeing 10% to 20% increase in your warm bodies out there on doing it, that can be a big expense.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DAnd you know, those guys aren't cheap.
Speaker DI mean, and gals, you know, and, and for me, it was great because I, I've met many of them.
Speaker DWe've had a chance of, of, you know, building relationships with many of them so I get to see them at these events.
Speaker DBut for me, that's not why I'm there.
Speaker DYou know, I'm there because I get a chance to work with, you know, first responders and veterans and, you know, and, and the business, the barbecue class, we're still focused on, you know, trying to get the veterans and first responders around the area that are interested to come out, but we're opening it up a little bit, you know, because we're also trying to build the, our base of volunteers.
Speaker DYou know, the Pacific Northwest has been lucky in, in many ways.
Speaker DYou know, you guys have had your fires and, and, and they've been some bad ones, but there could be, it could be much worse.
Speaker BOh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BThere's not a lot of human exposure to that, you know, the after effects of smoke and whatever, but we don't have like, they have in la.
Speaker BBig residential areas being wiped out.
Speaker BWe're going to take a break.
Speaker BWe're going to be back with Stan Hayes, Leanne and myself right here on the Nation right after this.
Speaker BStay with us.
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Speaker BWelcome back to the Nation.
Speaker BI'm J.T.
Speaker Balong with Ms.
Speaker BWhippen.
Speaker BShe's busy, this boy.
Speaker BShe's just trying to get her on the phone someday, I'll tell you that.
Speaker BIt's, it's tough out there.
Speaker BIf you want to follow the show, we're on all the social media platforms and all the podcast platforms and excuse me, Leanne has her Instagram, which she's got about 9 million people that follow her on that.
Speaker BI've got mine, which I have three, and of course Facebook and Twitter and all that.
Speaker BSo we're pretty easy to find.
Speaker BLike I said, we've got Stan Hayes with us.
Speaker BStan's been on the show a number of times from Operation Barbecue Relief, the Carolinas, the storms they had there, all through that swath of the South.
Speaker BAnd I followed it.
Speaker BYou know, I watched your posts and stuff, how you were, you were responding to things.
Speaker BThis isn't so much about the instantaneous response, but are you still in some of those areas on occasion helping or what's going on back there?
Speaker DYeah, so especially in western North Carolina, we have, you know, we were there for over a month.
Speaker DWe left, but we've been back subsequently probably five or six different times to do different things in different communities.
Speaker DMost recently over Easter, we, we did meals for four different communities, sort of centralized it in one one of those communities and then sent it out to three additional communities to do a few thousand meals, you know, to get out to those people because it's amazing that, you know, it's a double edged sword really for, you know, many of them live there because they want to be left alone.
Speaker DRight, right.
Speaker DYou know, they, they, they don't want government interaction, they don't want, you know, sometimes people interaction.
Speaker DBut when something like this happens, you know, we have to do better.
Speaker DYou know, I mean, you used to have people that live in intense, they lived through the winter intense.
Speaker DI mean, how, how can that be, you know, with, with, with everything that we have today.
Speaker DAnd, and so we, we did it.
Speaker DYou know, when you saw the response to the LA fires was greater than what happened in western North Carolina, you know, it just, that's politics at work.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker DAnd, and I'm not a political person.
Speaker DI don't like to play games like that, but I think it was just glaringly obvious what was happening and, and we were in la.
Speaker DI mean, don't get me wrong, we went out there because there was a huge need and we were, you know, we were asked to come out and.
Speaker DBut it doesn't compare in my, in, in my eyes of, you know, when you look at what happened out there and, and we'll continue through this year, you know, probably every other month, almost every third month, we've got something planned to go back in there and do thousands of meals, you know, with different groups and, and teaming up with groups to, to continue to help up.
Speaker DBecause it's going to be probably two years before many of these people get back into, into their home if, if.
Speaker BThey have ever built.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BYou know, you're, you're way south from where I am and from Stan there.
Speaker BAre they on the local news?
Speaker BAre they covering the people in Carolinas or.
Speaker COccasionally, but, you know, occasionally they're covering la, occasionally they're covering us.
Speaker CAnd I mean, my daughter's house just got imploded two days ago and the storm was quite a while ago.
Speaker CSo I mean, it's going to be a year before she even gets another house.
Speaker CSo it's, it's touch and go with the news.
Speaker CIt's, as you said, it's kind of political.
Speaker CI have family in North Carolina and I know how devastating it was and I feel that they got slighted.
Speaker CWell, for what they went through.
Speaker BEven me sitting 3,000 miles away, I thought they've always, they've kind of turned their back on them or just, you know, they came in for the.
Speaker BI promise not to get too political here, folks, but the powers that be at the time came in for the photo ops and yeah, we'll do.
Speaker BBut it took a while to even get them there and they did that and then they left and then it just kind of sat.
Speaker CI think the most important thing about the Carolinas is those people didn't have insurance because they didn't expect this to happen to them.
Speaker CWhereas in Florida, you know, they have insurance or they should.
Speaker CYou know what I mean?
Speaker CSo when they lose something in the Carolinas, it's not coming back to them.
Speaker CThey lost it.
Speaker CAnd I feel like that focus has been lost.
Speaker DYou have a lot of generational homes that were paid off, you know, handed down from family to family in some of those hollers and some of those areas around there that, you know, they didn't see a need to have insurance because, you know, most people think of insurance for that, you know, know, tragedy and, and it, and sometimes it becomes, you know, that cost benefit.
Speaker DIs it, is there a benefit to having it or not?
Speaker DUnfortunately.
Speaker DRight, right.
Speaker DAnd when, when things are paid off, you don't have a mortgage company that tells you you have to have it, you know, so.
Speaker DBut again, it is, There's a lot going on now and there's a lot more people involved and, and other groups that we've worked with, that we've gone back and worked with, you know, are helping in those efforts to get people, you know, a little bit more situated.
Speaker DYou know, we worked with a group that I think in one weekend brought in a, they brought in a group of Amish from Pennsylvania, Ohio area.
Speaker BI saw that.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DAnd they built 20 tiny homes in a weekend.
Speaker CAmazing.
Speaker DAnd, and I'm like, look, this is what humanity is about right here.
Speaker DYou know, it wasn't the government, it wasn't the state, you know, it was non profit organizations, church groups, civic groups coming together to say, you know what, we're gonna have to take this in our own hands.
Speaker BRight, right.
Speaker BNo, I, I saw those news clips on that, Stan.
Speaker BAnd you know, those Amish folks, they got, they can build stuff, you know, we all know that they can build stuff and they could do it.
Speaker BYou know, they raise a barn in an afternoon, a huge barn, you know, and they got the roof and siding on.
Speaker BBy the end of the day, maybe the interior isn't finished.
Speaker BBut, you know, you, it's, it's up, it's tangible at that point.
Speaker BAnd I saw those clips about the Amish coming into North Carolina and building those little homes and stuff, and they were just knocking it out.
Speaker BYou know, I thought that was impressive.
Speaker BWe're going to have to take a break here in a minute, but what I want to talk to you about is I think you came on the show the first time, what, six years ago or something?
Speaker BIt's been a while.
Speaker DIt's been a while.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd you were really starting to hit your stride with OBR then, you know, and if you don't know what that stands for, it's Operation Barbecue Relief.
Speaker BAll right, but when we come back, I want to talk to you about the expansion.
Speaker BAnd now you have what I want to say satellite divisions.
Speaker BI'm going to let you explain it better than that around the country where you can, you know, your response can be as soon as they open the gate, we can be there type thing.
Speaker BAll right, we're going to take a break.
Speaker BWe're going to be back with Stan Hayes, Leanne and myself on the Nation in just a second.
Speaker BGot to listen to the commercials, though.
Speaker BBut we'll be right back.
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Speaker BWelcome back to Barbecue Nation Nation.
Speaker BI'm jt.
Speaker BOne of the things we mention every week on this show has to do with this blonde lady with a steak growing out of the back her head right now, if you can see her back picture.
Speaker CYeah, I was in a steak kind of mood.
Speaker BYeah, it's a beautiful looking steak.
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Speaker BShe's going to give us an update on that because it's a great product.
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Speaker BAnd Leanne's the only one on the show I ever let do this, so.
Speaker CYeah, and I appreciate that greatly.
Speaker CIt is available on Amazon as well.
Speaker CAnd it is a rev, an award winning rub.
Speaker CAnd you hear award winning a lot with food and anything.
Speaker CBut it did win best rub on the planet, which is a very big award.
Speaker CIt can be used on pork and chicken and french fries and baked beans.
Speaker CIt's very versatile.
Speaker CJeff, you've used it a lot.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker CAnd then we also have a spicy pig powder coming out and that will be on the site as soon as I receive it.
Speaker CAnd some labeling changes, too.
Speaker BI'm even gonna use it Friday on a live show.
Speaker COh, good.
Speaker BI'll tell you what I'm doing then.
Speaker BWe'll get back to Stan here.
Speaker BI'm doing a grilled chicken thigh with basil and then some mango peach salsa on rice and some couple of sides.
Speaker COh, that sounds good.
Speaker BYeah, it's one of those things.
Speaker BI went to the fridge and went, I didn't plan anything for dinner.
Speaker BAnd so I yelled in the front room, shell just Got home, I said, hey, how about some chicken and rice?
Speaker BAnd she goes, sure.
Speaker BWell, we had not to belabor this, but we'd gone to Costco and got one of those big peach mango salsa containers.
Speaker BI don't know if they have them in your area, but they have them up here.
Speaker BSo I did that and I got to thinking about it and I thought, I can do that.
Speaker BAnd so I used a little pig powder on it.
Speaker CYeah, pig powder would complement peaches, mango, anything like that.
Speaker BYeah, it's perfect.
Speaker BSo go to Amazon or go to pigpowder.com I'll show you.
Speaker BI'll send you a picture of the hero shot when we're done.
Speaker CSee it?
Speaker CI want to see it.
Speaker BAnyway, we're talking with Stan Hayes today from Operation Barbecue Relief.
Speaker BAnd as we said going into the break, when Stan first came on the show, they were just really gaining traction and he'd been, he's put a lot of years in on this.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BBut now they not only have that, they have their retreat farm, if you will, where they can tail with veterans and, and as you know, you hear me rail about it a lot that we need to do more for our veterans and Stan has followed those leads.
Speaker BSo bring us up to speed from where you started, stan, to where OBR is now.
Speaker DWell, you know, this is our 14th year actually tomorrow I believe.
Speaker DSo we're right on, on that, you know, already talking about 15 years what we're going to do for a little celebration.
Speaker DBut as you look back at where we've come, you know, from, from the days of a volunteer group, you know, caravanning around the country to major disasters and feeding communities to, you know, last year we did 24 different disaster events across the country.
Speaker DJust shy of 1.6 million meals provided to those communities after disaster strikes and first responders and groups that come to help them.
Speaker DBut we did 100 non disaster events last year across the country to support our veterans, our first responders, communities in need outside of disaster in some way, fashion or form.
Speaker DI mean, one example is, and we just finished, it was at the beginning of May is International Firefighters Day.
Speaker DAnd on that day three years ago, we started a small little movement of hey, let's go out and feed the firemen at firehouses on that day.
Speaker DAnd we did it in Vancouver three years ago was one of the first areas I just happened to be out there around that time and was able to go help feed and you know, was part of this event.
Speaker DWell now as you move forward this year we did over 180 different firehouses and 30 different cities and 21 different states.
Speaker DWow.
Speaker DSo in three years that movement is just jumping up and you've got, we've got companies and groups coming on board.
Speaker DYou know, Leanne down in your area, Sonny's barbecue jumped in and said we want to be part of this.
Speaker DWe love this idea of celebrating our heroes, you know, on a day like this.
Speaker DAnd, and for us, you know, this is how we keep our, you know, our volunteers that we spend a lot of time, effort, they're the backbone of what we do.
Speaker DThis is how we keep them engaged by getting to do things in their own community that, you know, for their friends, their neighbors and, and such.
Speaker DAnd, and so it's, it's just been a great thing for growth wise.
Speaker DIt's been a great thing for engagement.
Speaker DBut more importantly, it gives a lot of ownership to those individuals to help with the brand in their community.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker BHow you've got a lot of people that are members, if you will, of obr.
Speaker BHow has that grown over the years?
Speaker BI mean you just gave the example of Sunny's Barbecue helping you with the first responders.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BAnd I was thinking while you were talking, I think it's probably closer to eight years ago.
Speaker BYou were on the show.
Speaker BFirst time this show's been, wow, we've been on the air.
Speaker BWe're going into the 11th year.
Speaker BSo it's, it's been a while.
Speaker BAnyway, you've got, I know like Meathead is a supporter.
Speaker DYep.
Speaker BYou know, we do stuff here, so on and so forth.
Speaker BBut how has that grown?
Speaker DYou know, by adding that the, the first responders and veteran component and even active military.
Speaker DIt's growing us into new verticals out there because there's more companies that want to support those than there are just those supporting disaster relief.
Speaker DAnd then there's more foundations.
Speaker DI mean we've just started working with and been in the works for quite some time.
Speaker DBut the Bob Woodruff foundation is one of the biggest ones out there that focuses on first responders, you know, veteran groups and such like that for.
Speaker DAnd they've become sort of what a gatekeeper, I guess might be the best way to put it for so many foundations that if you aren't sort of an approved organization with the Woodruff foundation, you aren't going to be eligible for a foundational grant.
Speaker DThat's like, it's like a weed out question.
Speaker DIf you're not a part of the they call got your six member then you, you don't even qualify.
Speaker DIt's just like, yep, that's just a weed out.
Speaker DYou're done.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DAnd, you know, it's taken us a while to get there and understand it and, and be able to get through that.
Speaker DBut that's just a new thing for us.
Speaker DThat's a new avenue, It's a new relationship.
Speaker DBut that relationship is they want to support these groups that make it to that point.
Speaker DAnd you know, I was with a gentleman yesterday who's a brand new member as well, and he's already, you know, seeing benefits from it.
Speaker DHe, he trains therapy dogs for veterans for PTSD and anxiety and stuff like that.
Speaker DAnd you know, he has a tremendous facility.
Speaker DYou know, they're, they're growing leaps and bounds and we both, you know, they're, they're a couple months ahead of us and in becoming a member.
Speaker DBut we were, we just happened to be talking about it yesterday how it's already, that relationship's paying off and each one of them's like that.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DI mean, the number of companies, you know, we, it's amazing.
Speaker DYou know, after 14 years we have some of the, you know, same people that we had in that first year, second year, as we started growing.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DAnd still right beside us, still promoting, you know, how we do good in the community and have deepened their relationship with us.
Speaker BHow do you feel at the end of the day?
Speaker BIt's kind of an abstract question.
Speaker CExhausted.
Speaker BExhausted.
Speaker DExhausted.
Speaker DYou know, I'm down here at the camp right now.
Speaker DWe just did a, we did our Monday was our annual golf fundraiser.
Speaker DHuge success until about, you know, about 4 o' clock in the afternoon when amazing, you know, massive storm came in.
Speaker DSo, you know, only about a third of the field actually finished 18 holes.
Speaker DBut there wasn't anybody complaining.
Speaker DI mean, it was, you know, when you have a golf tournament and you have seven different chefs on holes around the golf course putting out fresh, you know, you know, handheld items for the golfers and, and if there's not food, there's booze.
Speaker DYou know, everybody had a great time.
Speaker DAnd then we took and, and we decided, hey, let's get some of these people that are coming in from out of town.
Speaker DLet's get them down to the camp.
Speaker DSo we did a VIP one day camp experience yesterday and had a small number of them stayed overnight because of their travel and left this morning.
Speaker DBut it gave us a chance to showcase the property.
Speaker DBut they all got to, you know, with Johnny, I, my chef, get to sit down and they got to break down a, you know, a whole chicken to do A half chicken.
Speaker DThey all got to, you know, hear about it, watch them do it, then go do it themselves.
Speaker DAnd that really, you know, and then get into the fun part of.
Speaker DAll right, how am I going to season this?
Speaker DWhat am I going to use?
Speaker BRight, Pig powder.
Speaker EPig powder, yeah.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DYou know, know, we're going to hit up Leanne after this to get some down here because we do.
Speaker DWe have a little bit of.
Speaker DWe have like a, A little pantry there of different spices.
Speaker DSo.
Speaker DAnd, and that's part of the culinary therapy, when you think about it.
Speaker DThat's the creative side of the brain that if you are painting and you're trying to decide what color you want to paint something or what you want to put in there, what kind of flower you're going to do or whatever it is.
Speaker DWell, it's the same thing.
Speaker DHow do I want to.
Speaker DHow do I want to season this?
Speaker DDo I want to season.
Speaker DDo I want sweet?
Speaker DDo I want savory?
Speaker DDo I want, you know, do I want he.
Speaker DAnd, you know, those are, you know, it's engaging the same, same part of the brain that you would if you were doing art therapy or music therapy.
Speaker DIt's just food, you know, and the biggest distinction between all of them is everybody has to eat.
Speaker DSo at the end of the day, you know, it's not just the culinary therapy is not just therapeutic for them.
Speaker DIt's life skills, you know, on a grill and smoker for people.
Speaker DAnd, you know, we had people that were, you know, gung ho, people that were really ginger as they're trying to get through, you know, cutting the backbone out of a chicken for the first time ever or something.
Speaker DBut everybody had a blast.
Speaker DAnd then they, at the end, they're sharing their chicken, you know, say, hey, you should try my chicken.
Speaker DHere, let me try some of yours.
Speaker DAnd, and it's.
Speaker DIt's that, you know, food's the greatest unifier in the world.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker DSo if we can use, you know, that therapeutic, you know, approach, everybody left you know, and, and several with organizations that will probably look at renting the camp, you know, and, and including the culinary therapy along with what they do.
Speaker DSo for us, each of these that we do gets more awareness for the organization, gets more awareness for the camp.
Speaker DYou know, that's how we grow.
Speaker DThat's how we've always grown.
Speaker DIt's.
Speaker DHas always been around, you know, let's just put our head down and do what we do best.
Speaker DExcellent.
Speaker DAnd it will start getting recognized and it will start growing and it'll Start a movement or it'll do this.
Speaker DAnd that's where we're at.
Speaker DYou know, we're at a point that, yeah, we need more people.
Speaker DWe want to do more camps here because at the end of the day, you know, there are so many more blue sky days than there are gray.
Speaker DSo if we can, you know, have programs that are, you know, 24, seven or, you know, 24, seven.
Speaker D365 days a year.
Speaker DYou know, most camps run on a seasonality.
Speaker DOur goal is to be one of the elite camps, which means that you're doing more than 24 camps in a year.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWe're going to take a break.
Speaker BWe're going to come back with Stan Hayes, Operation barbecue relief, and Ms.
Speaker BWhippen, hall of Famer.
Speaker BAnd me, I'm just a mic jockey.
Speaker BWe'll be right back.
Speaker EHey, everybody, it's jt.
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Speaker DForeign.
Speaker BWelcome back to Barbecue Nation.
Speaker BI'm JT along with Leanne Whippen and Stan Hayes.
Speaker BI was Leanne.
Speaker BI flashed on something here.
Speaker BThis is what, your third year sitting in that chair?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI'm pretty sure Stan has read the label of pig powder, though.
Speaker BNot to belabor the point, but when he was talking about savory and sweet with little heat, I mean, I was like, I'm thinking that's right on your label.
Speaker CI'm gonna send Stan some so he can have it at his camp and put it in his pantry.
Speaker BI want to come down.
Speaker DFantastic.
Speaker BI want to come down there sometime, Stan, if you're available and we can hook up, and I want to see that camp.
Speaker BAnd because I like to do all those activities.
Speaker BHunting, fishing, you know, golfing.
Speaker BThat's kind of in my wheelhouse now.
Speaker BWhat do you have on the agenda going forward.
Speaker BI know we talked about the event coming up at ALA in June and that, but what other kind of static events do you have on the agenda for, say, the next four months?
Speaker DSo we have so many events that, you know, one, I start cutting them off about, you know, about August.
Speaker DThey have to be local, standalone.
Speaker DThat doesn't take any, you know, is being done by a local person with their own equipment.
Speaker DBecause once we start getting into the height of hurricane season, I'm not going to tie up equipment for that, but I would bet you we have.
Speaker DBetween now and then, we've got over 20 events already on the calendar.
Speaker DI mean, I'm.
Speaker DI'm doing.
Speaker DIn one week, I'm doing three different events.
Speaker DComing up at the beginning of June, I'm doing the national high school barbecue championship.
Speaker DWe're going to do a meal for all the kids and their families coming up to Kansas City because it's being hosted up here in Kansas City.
Speaker DSo, you know, I offered, since it's our hometown, we might as well show them a little hospitality because there's a lot of kids from Texas, Oklahoma.
Speaker DThere's a team from Florida, I believe, coming up this year for.
Speaker DFor it.
Speaker DAnd as.
Speaker DAs it continues to grow.
Speaker DThat's the future of my volunteer base.
Speaker EYeah.
Speaker DIs the.
Speaker DThose kids.
Speaker DSo I want them to know who we are.
Speaker DI want them to, you know, know what we do and be able to talk to them about how it can impact what they're doing today, can impact people in the future.
Speaker DAnd so that's an opportunity, you know, and then that same week, I'm doing a thing with National Beef.
Speaker DYou know, we're just getting more and more, you know, involved with events.
Speaker DAnd in all of those, I think we've got a couple of.
Speaker BYou know.
Speaker DWe'Ve done already this year several reserve units where they've been called up and are leaving the country for deployment.
Speaker DAnd we're fortunate enough to be able to give them a little celebration with their families before they leave.
Speaker DAt the same time, you know, every time we do that, we offer to do the homecoming, you know, and so we have some that are now coming full circle this summer to do some homecoming barbecue for those reserve units that have been called up and been away from home for, you know, some.
Speaker DSome of the.
Speaker DMan, some of these are long deployments now, 14, 15 months away from home.
Speaker DYeah, and those are.
Speaker DThose are the fun things.
Speaker DRight?
Speaker DBecause disasters aren't fun.
Speaker DDisasters are, you know, that necessary evil out there where, you know, you have to, you need somebody out there providing a good hot meal to people on their worst day.
Speaker CWhere do you keep all your equipment?
Speaker CIs it scattered about?
Speaker DSo we have yes and no.
Speaker DI mean, so we have our warehouse there in Tampa you've been to before, and we've got a small amount of equipment down there.
Speaker DWe've got equipment in.
Speaker DOur biggest warehouse space now is no longer Kansas City.
Speaker DIt's actually East Tennessee.
Speaker DAnd, and that's partially because the people I have work on the, you know, and, and on the program side, operational side.
Speaker DBut I can get so much more per square foot in, in Johnson City, Tennessee than I can anywhere around the Kansas City metro area.
Speaker DAnywhere around.
Speaker DI mean, I don't think I.
Speaker DIn Florida I can touch it.
Speaker DYou know, the space that we have and, and then Dallas, you know, the Dallas area is, is the fourth location which we've moved stuff and, and most recently we, you know, we've consolidated some of our other locations, freezer storage space and everything.
Speaker DYou know, we warehouse around 400,000 servings of protein at any given time to ensure that when we, when a disaster strikes, we have the protein on hand to be able to serve those communities.
Speaker DSo, and there's no place that we can have that just in one place, you know, so we, we do have multiple locations.
Speaker DThey're between Kansas City and Dallas right now.
Speaker DBut we're adding our own freezer storage in East Tennessee.
Speaker DThat'll be about, you know, about a enough for a tractor trailer load to start out with.
Speaker BWe've got a couple minutes left here.
Speaker BStan, do you, do you, as you know, hurricane season is coming, do you ramp up your, your protein storage in, in cold storage and that, I mean, do you, you know, it's kind of like projecting the futures market.
Speaker CYeah, it's like vending.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DSo, so what we do is, you know, we ensure that we're over that, you know, 400, 000 mark to start with in there.
Speaker DBut we're in contact with those companies that support us and they can't give it for free every time, but they give a good portion of it.
Speaker DWe try to get that free and get that into storage when storage opens up or before this ever happens.
Speaker DBut it's easier to buy even if it's at a highly reduced cost and get a whole truckload brought in to backfill.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker DFairly quickly.
Speaker DAnd so now when you, you know, we did between Hurricane Helene and Hurricane Milton, it was like just under 1.4 million meals.
Speaker DThe majority of those in Florida, across the state, you think about that and you try to work the math backwards and I'm not, I'm not near, I don't have enough toes and fingers to figure that all out.
Speaker DBut we, you know, when you look at that, we're buying a tremendous amount and, and, and we keep, we don't keep quite that many, you know, sides.
Speaker DObviously we don't have number 10 cans to match 400,000 servings because we can get that a little easier.
Speaker DBut we have, you know, we have more than a tractor trailer load that's going to be rolling in of number 10 cans.
Speaker DBut you know, we've started adding more to our arsenal so we can do more diversified type meals when we get in there.
Speaker DThings that can be put together so much faster than barbecue.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DWe do a lot of rice dishes with chicken with, with pork and things that are quicker cook stuff using the tilt skillets and things like that.
Speaker DThe combi ovens we just, you know, purchased, you know, some combi ovens and cooking holds, you know, cooking holds are, you know, with our testing is going to help us out greatly in that area because, you know, we can start that overn and cook and hold, you know, hot sides and be ahead of the game before, you know, and it reduces the labor in doing that.
Speaker BYeah, absolutely.
Speaker BStan Hayes from OBR Operation Barbecue Relief.
Speaker BStan, where can direct people to where they can find you on your websites and social media, etc.
Speaker DYeah, so website is OBR.org just nice sweet, short.
Speaker DAnd you can donate, you can volunteer right from the homepage.
Speaker DThere's two different buttons there.
Speaker DAnd then all of our social media, whether it's Instagram, Facebook, X, Twitter, I guess, I mean X TikTok is all OPBBQ relief.
Speaker DSo OPBBQ Relief is our handle on all of our social media.
Speaker BStan, thank you so much as always.
Speaker BYou're a wealth of information.
Speaker BI really admire what you do out there, but it's terrific.
Speaker DAgain, thank you guys for having me on.
Speaker BNo problem.
Speaker BWe'll be back next week.
Speaker BDon't know where Leanne's going to be.
Speaker BI don't know where I'm going to be, but we'll be somewhere and go up to the Alna in June and see Stan and if you live in the Portland area or Seattle, come on down and we'll do then.
Speaker BUntil then, I'm jt, thanks for listening, thanks for watching and go out, have some barbecue, have some fun and remember our motto, turn it, don't burn it.
Speaker BTake care, everybody.
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