Olivia Colman

Welcome to I'll marry you, a podcast with me, Olivia Colman, full of tips and tricks from the UK wedding scene, interviews with industry experts, and a whole lot of oversharing.

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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night.

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And welcome to another episode of the I'll marry you podcast with Anwar.

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Olivia Coleman, I'm intrigued to know whether you're watching or listening.

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Oh, I just poked myself in the eye with a bloody mascara, Wanda.

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All right.

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Because, you know, if I'm going to the effort of putting some slap on for you and getting dressed, then I want to know if that's actually a waste of my time or not.

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Yesterday.

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Oh, you know, I thought to myself, I thought to myself, I'm really.

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I've really let myself go in this pregnancy.

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I really have.

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And I was messaging my friend Sam, who is an exceptional chef and caterer, and he, we've just booked in for him to be on the podcast soon.

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But I was messaging him and I was saying to him, I really let myself go.

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Sam and the parents on the school run are not going to know what to do with themselves when I've given birth.

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Lost a little bit of the old timber, and actually, you know, take pride in my appearance.

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They're not going to recognize me because I.

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It's true.

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I have.

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It's winter, it's hibernate.

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Well, autumn, it's hibernation season.

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And I'm getting.

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I'm.

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We're in the ten week stretch now, stretch being the operative word.

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Ten weeks to go till due date, even though she's gonna be a little bit early.

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And so it's all becoming quite uncomfortable.

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I'm becoming quite miserable.

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The other night, I got into bed and cried because the car seat that I bought didn't fit the pram that we have.

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And my husband, who's actually been quite wonderful these last two days, got out of bed at 10:00 at night and went downstairs and went outside to test it.

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And of course, he got it to fit, didn't he?

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Bloody men.

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So it's all very emotional at the moment.

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I'm very emotional.

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It's all lots of tears and tiredness and things.

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But apart from that, all is well.

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I hope you've all had a good week.

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I had a wonderful weekend, actually.

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I had a planning meeting with a gorgeous couple who are getting married quite soon.

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They're getting married in a matter of weeks, in fact.

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And normally my planning meetings are.

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Well, I've been having planning meetings recently for March and April weddings.

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So normally they are a fair few months in advance, but we couldn't do it until nearer the time.

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So we met recently, and actually, I quite like that because then I write it straight afterwards and it's all very fresh in my mind, and then it's not long until I see them on the day itself.

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So I quite like that.

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So they.

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Oh, God, they're gorgeous.

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I mean, they're physically.

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They're physically gorgeous, but reading their questionnaires and writing their ceremony.

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Their ceremony is about three and a half weeks before I'm due.

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And I messaged her and said, look, I've written your ceremony.

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I'll send it over shortly, but I'm just letting you know that even if I give birth before your ceremony, I'm attaching that baby to the tit and just.

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And carrying on because I have to be there.

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I have to deliver this ceremony.

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I have been sensible and I have contacted my other celebrant friends with my final few dates, because I think I've told you this, but my last wedding ceremony before I'm due is two weeks prior to my due date.

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And again, I desperately want to be there.

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So even though I have now got a backup just in case, I'm hoping that all will be well.

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I'm going to wear a nappy.

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And I'm thinking maybe, do I need a lectern or something in front of me?

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Because basically, if my waters break, that's the only thing that I worry about.

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If I start having contractions, you know, I'm a mother and a woman.

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I could hide that pain.

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I'm very stoic.

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See, if I start having contractions, I'll be fine.

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I'll just be like, oh, my God, he loves you so much.

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And burst into song because you can hide anything with a random tune.

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But if my waters break and it's like a full on gush, that's going to be hard to hide, isn't it?

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Imagine.

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Oh, my God.

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I just thought about it.

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Imagine if my waters break and, like, onto her, like Jimmy choos or something.

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This is incredibly stressful, but I'm gonna cope with it.

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I'm all right.

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Anyway, so that's me.

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That's this week.

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The weekend just gone.

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In fact, we did something that's very risky for a couple.

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Anal.

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No, it's not anal.

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We went to Ikea close.

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We went to Ikea as a family.

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I, if given the choice, do not go to Ikea on a weekend.

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What are you, a sadist?

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But we have no choice because my husband won't take a day off, which makes me sound like a bitch, but it's his own bloody business to take a day off.

Ollie

Both.

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You know what I mean?

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But he wouldn't take a day off, so we had to.

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There's a man doing some handiwork outside.

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It's very often the way on this street.

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So we had to go to Ikea on Saturday to get some baby bits and furniture and all this stuff, you know, I'm nesting.

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And to go to Ikea with your loved one on a weekend, I believe, is a real test to any relationship.

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And we went with Lola.

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So a couple, a pregnant woman, her tired husband who's a little bit grumpy, I'm not gonna lie, and a four and a half year old who wasn't feeling great.

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It was a real risky game.

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We started at the cafe, obviously, because you've got to fuel, but actually, we didn't fight.

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I had no tongue left by the end of it because of the amount of times I'd bitten my tongue.

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And I could have cried in the bathroom section, but generally it went well and we didn't fight.

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So I was really proud of us.

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And ever since then, he's been ever so attentive.

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I don't know why.

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Do we think he's having an affair?

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Could be.

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Takes the heat off me, doesn't it?

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Anywho, that's my week, and I hope you've all had a wonderful week.

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And I'm very excited for.

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God, look at the size of me.

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I'm very excited for this episode, so I'll lead right into it.

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It is an interview with an industry expert.

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Enjoy.

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I forgot to tell you.

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Drew's going to tell me off.

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Sorry, producer Drew, I forgot to tell you.

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Right.

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Welcome to another episode of the I'll marry you podcast.

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And we have got an interview with Ollie from.

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Filmed on phones.

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And I don't know Ollie's.

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Ollie says he's listened to a couple of episodes.

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I don't believe him.

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But if you have listened to a couple of episodes, Ollie, then you will know that I don't do a lot of research because I like to.

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I like it to be organic, you know, and authentic.

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But I like to ask the questions as I think other people would ask them.

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So I know a little, but I don't know a lot.

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So I'm excited to get into it.

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So it's filmed on phones.

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You're Ollie, and the first question is really hard hitting.

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The first question I want to know is, how on earth did you come up with the name?

Ollie

Well, it's quite self explanatory, but we actually had a different name to start with.

Ollie

We used to be called Fy wedding, which was film it yourself wedding.

Olivia Colman

Oh, clever.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

Like diy, but fiy.

Ollie

But people just got confused, like it was.

Ollie

Obviously, it's quite a unique concept, so it requires a bit of explanation.

Ollie

So then we ended up rebranding after a few months because I needed something that was just as clear as possible.

Ollie

Filmed on films.

Ollie

That's what it is.

Ollie

There's still the element that's left unexplained of that.

Ollie

It's the guests that film on their phones, not us.

Ollie

But the name hopefully gives you half the way there to what we do.

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I do think you have to.

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I got into trouble in an old job for saying this too often, that people are stupid.

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But people are stupid when you come up with.

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Not my listeners.

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When you come up with branding and marketing and all that stuff, I do think you have to do it for the simplest of minds.

Ollie

Yeah, absolutely.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

And one of the.

Ollie

Another problem we've had is that.

Ollie

So my brother lives in the US, and apparently in America, they don't really use the word filmed in the way that we do.

Olivia Colman

What do you mean?

Ollie

Right, like, yeah, a film is associated with, like, a roll of film, but they don't say, like, you film something.

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What do they say?

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Record.

Ollie

Yeah.

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Or video or.

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So when I have actually done a wedding in the US, but one day I'd like us to be international, and then I'm gonna have to cross that bridge and maybe have a different.

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Aim high, Ollie.

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Aim high.

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Absolutely.

Ollie

Of course.

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Of course.

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So.

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Right.

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Tell me about yourself.

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Where are you?

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What age, sex, location?

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Asl?

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You look too young to know ASL.

Ollie

No, I do, I do.

Ollie

I know that.

Ollie

I've not.

Ollie

I don't think anyone's asked me that since I played on Haber Hotel about 20 years ago.

Olivia Colman

Since you had a Bebo account.

Ollie

I had a Bebo account, yeah.

Ollie

I'm old enough for that.

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You're a millennial.

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Okay, we've covered that.

Ollie

So, age.

Ollie

30.

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Yeah.

Ollie

Sex, male.

Ollie

Location, Stockport, so just south of Manchester.

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Okay.

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I did notice a twang.

Ollie

A slight twang.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

Yeah.

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Only slight, though, which is good.

Ollie

Don't want it to be too strong.

Olivia Colman

No, I can understand you.

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And how long have you been.

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How did you even get into the filming?

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Wedding stuff like, take me back.

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Take me all the way back to the beginning.

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Any daddy issues we can talk about?

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I want to know it all.

Ollie

So it actually originated from our wedding.

Ollie

It's myself and my wife that run the business, Shona.

Ollie

And we got married in 2022, so just over two years ago.

Ollie

And at our wedding, we kind of did a version of filmed on phones where we asked our friends to video stuff on their phones.

Ollie

And then I collected up all their footage, which was a bit of a pain, but I bet our service kind of makes that easy for people now.

Ollie

I made a great video from it, and it was just.

Ollie

The video was just so good because it was like, you get so much.

Ollie

So many things that I don't think a videographer would normally capture.

Ollie

Like people messing around, saying stupid shit at the end of the night to the camera, and loads of fun moments like that.

Ollie

And so, yeah, we did it at our wedding, and then we just thought, you know, what other people would like this.

Ollie

Like, it's not quite like anything else that existed at the time.

Ollie

So then we kind of just went for it.

Ollie

I have a background in marketing, web design, that sort of stuff, so I was able to build the website myself.

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And you were quite tech savvy to begin with.

Ollie

Yeah, I'm a bit of a techie guy.

Ollie

I don't think I've ever had microphone issues quite as catastrophic as the ones you had at the start before recording.

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I'm not a tech person.

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And like I said to you and producer Drew, you have to bear in mind that everything I do, I'm carrying human life in me.

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Every movement.

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Movement, rather, is an effort.

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So before your wedding, you had a full time job.

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What were you doing before that?

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Before the wedding?

Ollie

Yeah, I worked in marketing for a small business, basically nothing too glamorous.

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And tell me about your wedding.

Ollie

So our wedding was extremely diy.

Ollie

It was in a barn, but when we viewed it, there were literally cows in the barn.

Ollie

So.

Ollie

Very real cow barn.

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Oh, God.

Ollie

And the smell of shit.

Ollie

I thought, I presumed, because they kind of, like, block it out in summer, they clear it all out and do, do weddings just over the summer period, and I presumed the smell would go away.

Ollie

I didn't really.

Ollie

But you do get used after being there for about 1015 minutes, so it all works out fine.

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It's rustic.

Olivia Colman

It's rustic, isn't it?

Ollie

No, no.

Ollie

Yeah, but it was.

Ollie

It was a really perfect day.

Ollie

Like, everything went so unbelievably smoothly and.

Ollie

Yeah, very diY.

Ollie

As I say, we did a lot of stuff ourselves, like the video.

Olivia Colman

So did you have a photographer?

Ollie

Yes.

Olivia Colman

Did you have a videographer?

Ollie

No.

Olivia Colman

So therein lies the gap, ollie.

Ollie

Well, yeah, so I do have a bit of a background doing video editing.

Ollie

Like, I've done a few wedding videos and stuff for friends and family in the past, and obviously working in marketing has always involved bits of video editing.

Ollie

So initially, I was like, I need a videographer.

Ollie

Like, that's the one thing that I really want to get.

Ollie

Shona had a long list of all the things she wanted.

Ollie

All I was bothered about was the videographer.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

But then the more I thought about it, I actually decided I didn't actually want a professional videographer and value the work that videographers do.

Ollie

So I don't mean this.

Ollie

I don't want to say anything bad about videographers, but for us, we kind of just wanted it to be a bit more casual, a bit more relaxed.

Ollie

But we still wanted to have those moments to look back on.

Ollie

On video.

Ollie

So we had a really good photographer, Jen Garlick, she's called, based around us, and she was fantastic.

Ollie

But then for the video stuff, we just asked our friends to film bits.

Olivia Colman

So you literally just said, can you film stuff?

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And then what?

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You sort of whatsapped them afterwards and said, send me over what you got?

Ollie

Pretty much, yeah.

Ollie

So I was quite, like, regimented with it.

Ollie

So I said, like, right, I want you.

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Sounds fun.

Ollie

I want you to build the ceremony, you to do the speeches and split it up.

Ollie

So there wasn't, like, one person has to do everything and has a really stressful day.

Ollie

So we gave, like, one or two tasks to individuals and had at least two people on all the main things, so it wasn't gonna, you know, so one person didn't have the stress of, like, I have to capture the ceremony and I'm the only person doing it.

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I mean, you've taken it already from.

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I'm just imagining you on your wedding day.

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You've taken it already from like, oh, would you mind just filming a few silly drunken bits or just a bit of fun?

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Bit of fun, too.

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Right, Karen, you're on ceremony.

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Okay.

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I want you at the left angle.

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These poor guests.

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They must really love you.

Ollie

Well, no, but the thing is, they actually do, because they actually do love me.

Ollie

People enjoy the filming.

Ollie

Like, that's the thing.

Ollie

That was maybe an unanticipated thing about the business is that the guests really enjoy doing it.

Ollie

It's nice having feeling important, feeling like you've got to do something to do, but it is casual.

Ollie

At the same time, we're not asking people to get incredible cinematic shots that are perfectly framed with brilliant lighting.

Ollie

They just got to hold the phone there and film the thing, basically, so people enjoy it.

Ollie

But the thing is, I realized that not everyone is like me.

Ollie

Not everybody wants to have a spreadsheet where they're like, who's doing this?

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This person's doing this.

Ollie

Our website.

Ollie

Once you made a booking on film dump phones, you're able to just assign roles in there.

Ollie

So I could add live and give you the role of speeches.

Ollie

Tick that.

Ollie

And then add in, like, a phone number or an email address for you.

Ollie

And then that's all as the groom or the bride would have to do.

Ollie

We, as in filmed on phones, then send out guidance to you to say you've been tasked with filming the speeches at Ollie's wedding.

Ollie

Here's a video showing you exactly what you need to do.

Olivia Colman

I hope you make it fun rather than you, rather than what you sound like as a groomzilla.

Olivia Colman

So you did it for your own bit of fun and you thought, this is quite a good idea.

Olivia Colman

And you and Shona were like, okay, maybe we could do something with this.

Olivia Colman

So when was filmed on phones actually born.

Ollie

So after the wedding, we went on our honeymoon to Canada, which was fantastic.

Ollie

We were there for three weeks.

Ollie

And I think three weeks is long enough away from work that you start evaluating your whole life and you're like, do I really want to go back to this office job?

Ollie

So then I think after it started really forming in my mind then, and I started working on it once we got back in my spare time.

Ollie

And then I think it was about two or three months after that that I quit my job.

Ollie

Yeah, I kind of went all in on it.

Olivia Colman

Risky Biscay.

Ollie

Yeah, risky.

Ollie

Maybe you could say risky.

Ollie

You could say stupid.

Ollie

You could say ambitious.

Olivia Colman

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

Sometimes you need the kick up the arse to do it, don't you?

Olivia Colman

What about Shona?

Olivia Colman

Does she.

Olivia Colman

Did she.

Ollie

She still works?

Olivia Colman

She's bringing home that bacon, making sure the mortgage.

Ollie

She works incredibly hard whilst I just sit here all day doing fun things like this.

Olivia Colman

Yeah, no, tell me about it.

Ollie

So hopefully.

Ollie

Hopefully one day I'll be able to.

Ollie

Well, she'll be able to join me full time as well.

Ollie

But we're a little way off that at the moment.

Olivia Colman

So it really hasn't actually been going that long.

Olivia Colman

Like less than two years.

Ollie

Yeah, just about two years now.

Olivia Colman

That's amazing.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

I mean, it's gone well, though.

Ollie

We've done, I think we must be coming up to 50 weddings now.

Ollie

So we did some, like, for free initially when we were trying to just test out the idea and get it out there.

Ollie

But it's growing steadily and it works so incredibly well, like, genuinely better than I thought it would work.

Ollie

Every wedding now, we get over 200 clips generally, which is hours and hours of footage that tends to be.

Olivia Colman

Yeah.

Ollie

And really good clips as well, like, because a lot of people these days are like, you know, quite friendly with the video on the phone and most phones can film in, like, 60 frames per second and, like.

Ollie

So the quality actually is good.

Olivia Colman

Yeah, you've lost me already.

Olivia Colman

So let's speak practically then.

Olivia Colman

If I.

Olivia Colman

How do I find you on Instagram?

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I find you on the Internet, whatever.

Olivia Colman

And then I get in touch.

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How does it work?

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Talk me through the logistics.

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Talk me through the journey.

Ollie

The journey.

Ollie

The journey.

Olivia Colman

The journey with iron.

Ollie

Filmed on films on the.

Ollie

On our website.

Ollie

You pick a package to start with, basically, which.

Ollie

They're all the same apart.

Ollie

The only difference is the highlights film that we edit for you.

Ollie

So we've got a few different options.

Ollie

There's one that's like one video, one song for, like two to three minutes.

Ollie

There's one that's the classic package is like two songs.

Ollie

And then there's the extended package, which is usually three songs.

Ollie

And then it also includes, like, full cuts of the ceremony and speeches.

Olivia Colman

Do you mean like two songs, two videos or two songs?

Olivia Colman

So a longer video?

Ollie

A longer video, yeah.

Ollie

So it's the length of the video that we create, basically, that dictates the difference between the packages.

Ollie

With all of the packages, you book it and then on the website, you get access to this area where you can assign a videography roles.

Ollie

We call them filmers people.

Olivia Colman

Another excellent original name.

Ollie

Yep.

Ollie

Yep.

Ollie

Wouldn't do well in the US, but there you go.

Olivia Colman

Videoers.

Olivia Colman

Video.

Olivia Colman

Well, they'd be videographers in the US.

Ollie

So you can assign up to ten of them.

Ollie

We've got six roles at the moment, so.

Ollie

Getting ready?

Olivia Colman

Yeah.

Ollie

Speeches, ceremony, first dance, cake cutting and the party.

Olivia Colman

Nice.

Olivia Colman

Nice.

Olivia Colman

The essentials are covered.

Ollie

The essentials are covered, yeah.

Ollie

So you can add up to ten people who will then be sent guidance from us a week before your wedding.

Ollie

So what we recommend is you add them in there and then you speak to them yourself and say, by the way, we're using this thing called filmed on phones.

Ollie

Give them the basic idea of what that means, that you want them to film a part of your wedding day on their phones.

Ollie

And then a week before the wedding, they'll receive a text message and an email from us with a bit of guidance and a fun video telling them what to do.

Ollie

And then the day after the wedding, while on the wedding, they film whatever they need to film.

Ollie

The day after the wedding, we then get in touch with them again, so they'll get a text message and an email that says, hope you had a great day.

Ollie

If you can upload all your videos here, you've got a week.

Ollie

And they go on there, they add all their videos.

Ollie

It's really easy to upload them to us.

Ollie

They come straight to us, organized into a nice, neat little folder ready for us to then edit them together into a video for the couple.

Ollie

And one thing that's worth mentioning is if you send videos on WhatsApp or Messenger or whatever, then it actually compresses them so they get, the quality reduces every time.

Olivia Colman

Right.

Ollie

So that's, that's something, a problem that we had at our wedding when we were collecting them in and then we were getting the videos, but then they weren't as good anymore.

Ollie

So if you upload them via our website on the link on there, then they don't get compressed at all.

Ollie

So they come to us in like the perfect original quality and, yeah, that's.

Olivia Colman

And then how long is it to, like, till me, the bride?

Olivia Colman

I.

Olivia Colman

Til my.

Olivia Colman

Me and my husband, Chris Hemsworth, how long was it until we get our video that we can watch naked on a sheepskin rug?

Ollie

I have listened to your podcast before because I've heard you use the Chris Hemsworth line before.

Olivia Colman

I love him.

Olivia Colman

There are things that man could do.

Ollie

I'm sure.

Ollie

I'm sure.

Ollie

So, yeah, 28 days, basically.

Ollie

So they have a week to upload.

Ollie

So people aren't too stressed about that.

Ollie

So a week from your wedding is uploading time when people are just adding their videos, and then within 21 days from there, we edit the highlights film.

Olivia Colman

Okay, let's just give me a rough idea of cost.

Olivia Colman

What are we looking at?

Olivia Colman

How much am I budgeting?

Olivia Colman

Budgeting.

Ollie

So our, kind of, our classic package, the middle one is 399.

Olivia Colman

Oh, it's a bargain.

Ollie

Yeah, I think so.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

It's obviously a fraction of the cost of a professional.

Ollie

Obviously, we don't come to the wedding, so it's very different to that.

Ollie

Yeah, yeah, it's.

Ollie

I think it's a bargain.

Ollie

And then the mini package starts at 299, so.

Ollie

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

And would that be.

Olivia Colman

How many people do you think have it purely for social media?

Olivia Colman

Other videos in that time?

Olivia Colman

They're not in that time.

Olivia Colman

So it's like you can be a real.

Ollie

What do you mean?

Ollie

Sorry?

Olivia Colman

Like, so that you.

Olivia Colman

When you edit the videos, you don't edit them down to a certain.

Olivia Colman

The certain amount of time?

Ollie

No, no.

Ollie

So we.

Ollie

Yeah, the highlights films, we just make kind of really just for people to enjoy as a video.

Ollie

Like, more like a videographer does, rather than like a content creator.

Ollie

You.

Ollie

The couple does also get access to all the videos that have been uploaded to us, so it's good for them to just collect everything in.

Ollie

But generally we find it's not really specifically for social media that people are using us, if that makes sense.

Olivia Colman

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

Do you know what I would do?

Olivia Colman

I'm just thinking about it.

Olivia Colman

I would have you as a gift, you, ollie wrapped up.

Olivia Colman

No, I would be like, as a wedding present, I would say to, like, my aunties or my uncles or my grandparents, whatever.

Olivia Colman

Can you all chip in and pay for this service?

Olivia Colman

Because it's a very fair price.

Ollie

Yeah, well, we have actually.

Ollie

Funny you say that.

Ollie

We've done.

Ollie

I think there's been two weddings that were actually gifts where somebody else organized them, and then, I mean, in theory, you could do it all without the bride and groom even knowing that it was happening.

Olivia Colman

Love that idea.

Ollie

I should really push that.

Ollie

That is a good idea.

Ollie

You should push that because.

Ollie

Yeah, people just.

Ollie

Everyone's filming on their phones anyway, so no one's gonna notice that anything different happened.

Ollie

And then 28 days after the wedding, you suddenly receive a nice video of all the best moments.

Olivia Colman

You should.

Olivia Colman

Yeah, you should definitely push that.

Olivia Colman

Because I think that if you get all your, you message people, or a lot of people do these QR codes now, don't they, where you can.

Olivia Colman

The guests can upload any pictures they take and then the couple have them afterwards.

Olivia Colman

But even then, realistically, you're not going to be asked to sit down and make an actual video.

Olivia Colman

And if you don't make an actual video, how often are you realistically going to sit down and go through everyone else's photos?

Olivia Colman

Once you've got the professional photos?

Olivia Colman

But if someone came to me like, oh, surprise, that would be so cool, ollie, you should definitely push that.

Ollie

Yeah, yeah, no, I will do that.

Ollie

I'll make a note of that.

Olivia Colman

Write that down.

Olivia Colman

You're welcome on the code.

Ollie

Actually, as well, we do provide a QR code.

Ollie

You can get that in the back end of the website when.

Ollie

So you can put a QR code up, but then, because it's not only the filmers that can upload stuff, in theory, anybody can upload.

Olivia Colman

That's what I was.

Olivia Colman

Yeah, because everyone will take something.

Olivia Colman

Although you probably, you might not like this, but as a celebrant, at the beginning of the ceremony, I will always.

Olivia Colman

Not always.

Olivia Colman

95% of the time, I say, please don't film anything.

Ollie

Well, yeah, funny, actually, we did that, our wedding.

Ollie

So it was a no phones ceremony.

Olivia Colman

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

Unplugged.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

Because it's, you know, and photographers generally aren't that keen on that either.

Ollie

It kind of ruins them.

Ollie

Requires a lot of photoshopping if everyone's holding their phone up.

Ollie

So, although it seems to be, like, contradictory to what we do as a business, that is what we did.

Ollie

And I think it can still work because if you just have one or two people, they can.

Ollie

If it's just like, you know.

Olivia Colman

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

And also it always makes me laugh because I always ask my couple if they want me to say it and they normally say yes, because, like you say, you paid a lot of money for a photographer and then they're going to take photos of the.

Olivia Colman

The important bits with everyone's bloody phones out.

Olivia Colman

But there is always one.

Olivia Colman

There's always one who'll look at me and give me a wink and be like, it's all right, I'm allowed.

Olivia Colman

Really?

Olivia Colman

Are you, Aunt Sally?

Olivia Colman

Because you're the reason that I've even saying this.

Olivia Colman

There's always going to be one or two people on their phones, isn't there?

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

It's unavoidable, I think, people these days.

Olivia Colman

So, okay, I have questions for you.

Olivia Colman

I didn't realize that you assigned roles, which I think is a good thing, because my main concern at 04:00 this morning when I was awake was, what if they didn't get any footage?

Ollie

Yeah, well, that's what.

Olivia Colman

If only the footage you get is shit.

Ollie

Yeah, well, it hasn't happened yet, but the roles is what makes the difference there.

Ollie

And we can see, because you don't have to add ten people, we do recommend you use all of them because it's when.

Ollie

When people add ten filmers, then that's when we get 200 to 300 clips every time and makes my job harder, but ultimately better.

Olivia Colman

And different angles as well.

Olivia Colman

You don't want them all sat together the whole time.

Ollie

Yes.

Ollie

Yeah, yeah.

Ollie

If you don't do that, then, yeah, you won't get anywhere near as much.

Ollie

When we very first launched, we did, I was obsessed with the QR code thing, so we actually provided physical cards that you could put out and people can scan them to upload footage.

Ollie

But we found we actually barely got anything doing that.

Ollie

Or not as much.

Ollie

You get much more by using the filmers.

Ollie

So it's a difficult thing, the film is, because when I'm trying to explain the idea of the business, I've still not got it really nice and concise, I don't think.

Ollie

Because the filmers section is so important to making it work, that's why it works well, but it's kind of like long winded to explain and a bit tedious, but it's to explain.

Ollie

But it's actually really easy for the couple to just add their friends in and then it guarantees that it works really well.

Olivia Colman

But I would struggle very much choosing who the filmers should be, and especially the party, because everyone's pissed by then.

Ollie

Yeah, well, I mean, there's usually one or two pregnant people, so tell me about them.

Ollie

Perfect option.

Ollie

But actually, I was editing a video yesterday and it's fantastic when the people filming the party are pissed because there was a girl going around just sticking the camera in people's faces and she was just like, it makes such good content, so as long as they remember to do it.

Ollie

But also when people are pissed is when they start getting their phones out and filming everything.

Ollie

It's just like an instinct, I think.

Olivia Colman

So I do really like it when I've seen it.

Olivia Colman

When you have people stick their phones in your face and then they do a well wish or, hi, great party, congratulations.

Olivia Colman

And they have little clips of all of their guests sending them well wishes.

Olivia Colman

I do enjoy that.

Ollie

So that actually leads on very nicely too.

Olivia Colman

Ollie, I didn't even know I was providing you with a segue.

Ollie

Yeah, no, perfect.

Ollie

We do do a guestbook package which is only 99 pounds.

Ollie

99 pounds for us to edit, which is similar concept overall, but it's specifically focused around creating a video guest book.

Ollie

So you go around asking people to give a message for the bride and groom or maybe marriage advice or just well wishes, whatever they want.

Ollie

And then we edit all that together within 24 hours of receiving everything.

Ollie

So that you assign one or two people to just video guestbook stuff.

Ollie

And then.

Ollie

Yeah, they let us know once they've uploaded everything and then we edit it in 24 hours because it's very easy to edit, obviously.

Ollie

It's just necessary.

Olivia Colman

That's brilliant.

Olivia Colman

Because I would see now, if it was me, I would make it a stationary activity.

Olivia Colman

So I would set up a camera on the tripod with, like a sign and I would maybe assign, like a 14 year old cousin or something.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

That would work well, because they tend to not drink and they like to feel important.

Olivia Colman

That's very good.

Olivia Colman

I like that very much.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

And because that's something that our friends did at our wedding, they just started going around and asking people, like, do you have a message for us?

Ollie

And that from our wedding video?

Ollie

That's actually my favorite part of it is all those messages, because it's just nice hearing, like, nice things about yourself and.

Ollie

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

Who doesn't love that?

Ollie

Yeah, we do the really quick turnaround as well, with the idea that you might be on your honeymoon and then you get a video with all these messages from your wedding day.

Ollie

If your friends just telling you how brilliant you are and what a great day they've been.

Olivia Colman

I love that.

Olivia Colman

Can I do that?

Olivia Colman

How can I do that?

Olivia Colman

I want my own guests book.

Ollie

You'd have to get married again.

Ollie

Were you married?

Olivia Colman

Yeah, but there's always.

Olivia Colman

There's always time for more.

Olivia Colman

It's always, I've got big plans.

Olivia Colman

Oh, I love that idea.

Olivia Colman

And actually, you're right.

Olivia Colman

The quick turnaround people nowadays, people expect a quick turnaround with everything, don't they?

Ollie

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

And that is a lovely thing because it's all, I always think that with, especially an at home wedding, the next days can often be even better than the wedding day when you're chatting about it and you're finding out what happened and the gossip and who was drunk and all that stuff.

Olivia Colman

So then if you are, if you head straight off on your honeymoon or what have you to have something come back and be like, oh, my God, I can't believe she said that.

Olivia Colman

Or, oh, I liked her dress, or, oh, that would be so lush.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

Oh, aren't you clever?

Ollie

I like to think so.

Olivia Colman

So you.

Olivia Colman

I was going to ask, but you've sort of already explained it, the main difference between you and a content creator.

Olivia Colman

So a content creator, for those listeners who don't know, is basically someone, I suppose the main difference is they go to the wedding, but it's.

Olivia Colman

It's someone who goes to a wedding and they will film all sorts of different bits on their phone, and then they will make a reel, I suppose.

Olivia Colman

Again, they're kind of almost entirely for social media, but how would you define yourself compared to them?

Ollie

Yeah, so obviously, as you say, the main difference is you actually have a person that comes to your wedding with a content creator, and it tends to be much more focused around social media and creating specific content for tiktoks and reels and that sort of thing.

Ollie

You can kind of get that from what we do because you get all the raw content as well.

Ollie

So you can make your own reels and stuff from what people upload, I guess.

Ollie

Another thing is, with our service, there's no limit to what you can upload.

Ollie

So it starts from, well, sometimes if people have, like, wedding weekends, it can actually be content from across the whole weekend, but typically from, like, getting ready at 06:00 a.m.

Ollie

in the morning right through to, like, 01:00 a.m.

Ollie

when everyone's drunk and ready to go home.

Olivia Colman

Oh, it's a long day.

Ollie

It is a long day.

Ollie

So, yeah, I guess you get a bit more coverage and also the kind of different perspectives of different guests.

Ollie

We recommend using filmers from different sides of the family, different friend groups, so people are like, a lot more mishmashed and.

Olivia Colman

Clever idea.

Olivia Colman

Yeah, because I thought, yeah, it's almost like having them all sit next to each other.

Olivia Colman

You don't want that.

Olivia Colman

You want them to be all over the wedding.

Ollie

Absolutely.

Ollie

And I think another, the benefit of what we do is that friends tend to know, or family members or whatever your guests know, which moments are particularly important to you, so they'll, you know, things that a content creator or a videographer might struggle to capture because they wouldn't realize if one particular, like, part of the wedding had some special meaning or whatever.

Ollie

Whereas your friends are kind of guaranteed to know that.

Olivia Colman

And also you get to sit on your ass at home the whole time.

Ollie

Yeah, well, yeah, it's great for me.

Ollie

I don't have to go anywhere nationwide.

Ollie

Well, international, really.

Olivia Colman

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

The world your is, really?

Olivia Colman

Because you're not leaving Southport, Stockport, Stockport, Southampton, wherever you are.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

Well, it's.

Ollie

I mean, that's kind of great.

Ollie

Obviously, there's no limit.

Ollie

Like, we had three weddings in one day over summer, so that's good for us in that we can, you know, do multiple at a time.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

It's also a downside, though.

Ollie

It's a little bit harder for me to, like, forge a relationship with the couple because I don't go and meet them.

Ollie

I do book in a call with them after they have made a booking so that I can get to know them a little bit and, like, you know, answer any questions.

Olivia Colman

But actually, you say that, and I think it's always nice to get to know the people who you're.

Olivia Colman

Who are helping you out on your wedding day.

Olivia Colman

But, and I mean this with the utmost respect, they don't need to know you, ollie, like, because you're not there.

Olivia Colman

So it's.

Olivia Colman

I always say to people, when they pick a photographer, videographer, wedding planner, there are certain suppliers.

Olivia Colman

And I always say to my couples, you, you have to like them because they're in your face.

Olivia Colman

They're there on the day, they're around you.

Olivia Colman

You have to like their vibe, enjoy hanging out with them.

Olivia Colman

You have to like them, but they don't have to like you, Ollie, because you're not there.

Olivia Colman

But you could be an absolute wanker and they'll be fine.

Olivia Colman

But they do like their guests.

Olivia Colman

So actually, you cut out the middleman so straight, you're.

Olivia Colman

You're already going to get the warmth that the photographer who's really good at his job and gets to know the couple really well and gets the warmth through the photos.

Olivia Colman

You're going to get that warmth through the clips.

Olivia Colman

It's just because they.

Olivia Colman

They're done by guests that the couple know and trust, clearly.

Ollie

Yeah, yeah.

Olivia Colman

Very clever.

Olivia Colman

We're really unraveling this business and every layer is a surprise.

Ollie

So much to it.

Olivia Colman

There is so much to it.

Olivia Colman

I think, and I'm sure you agree with me, I always tell people to do some, ask, advise people to do some kind of video, whether that is a videographer, content creator, or filmed on phones by Ollie and Shona.

Olivia Colman

There is.

Olivia Colman

It just feels different watching a video back than it does looking at photos.

Ollie

Yeah, definitely.

Ollie

And I think we.

Ollie

We find a lot.

Ollie

I imagine with most wedding suppliers, you're.

Ollie

Well, you can tell me, do people book you way in advance?

Ollie

Like, you know, are you taking bookings now for 2026?

Ollie

Yeah, yeah.

Ollie

Whereas most of our bookings actually come very last minute.

Olivia Colman

Yes, I can imagine.

Ollie

I have one yesterday that's getting married on Saturday, probably.

Ollie

Most people book us about a month or two months before their wedding.

Ollie

And I think that's because they're generally people that have decided initially they're not going to have a videographer for whatever reason.

Ollie

And then as the wedding gets closer, they start to think, you know what?

Ollie

I'd like to have some video captured.

Olivia Colman

And there's money left in the budget.

Ollie

Yeah, only 399.

Ollie

It's.

Ollie

Yeah, so that's where we come in.

Olivia Colman

No, you're right.

Olivia Colman

I did a wedding in the summer with a content creator person, and they said the same thing about them.

Olivia Colman

They were like, people tend to book us really last minute because they're like, oh, okay.

Olivia Colman

That, you know, maybe even like you.

Olivia Colman

Like you're saying with this wedding on the weekend, within a week, because so and so drops out or the flowers are less than we thought or whatever.

Olivia Colman

We have 500 quid left in the budget, you know, might as well spend it.

Olivia Colman

It's in the budget for a reason.

Ollie

I'm never going to regret having that, like, the video to look back on, because it really takes you back there, doesn't it?

Olivia Colman

I don't want to sound morbid, but I saw a thing on the Internet that was like, when you're at your wedding, don't forget to take a picture with, like, your grandparents or the old people, because they could die soon.

Ollie

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

That could be the last picture that you ever have with them.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

And what if you also had a video with granddad?

Olivia Colman

I know, I know.

Olivia Colman

One of the last ever photos with my granddad was at our wedding, and.

Olivia Colman

And I.

Olivia Colman

His voice wasn't captured on the video, but how lovely would that be?

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

Yeah, absolutely.

Olivia Colman

If you always had something to look.

Ollie

Back on, soon you'll be able to do it all with AI, so it.

Olivia Colman

Won'T even be necessary.

Ollie

But it's a good point.

Ollie

Definitely.

Olivia Colman

Yeah.

Olivia Colman

You're never ever.

Olivia Colman

You're never going to regret having it.

Olivia Colman

What is difficult, and it's something I'm going to talk about in a future episode, is all these little extras.

Olivia Colman

It's difficult because you can't, unless you've got a never ending budget.

Olivia Colman

And even if you have, you shouldn't spend it all.

Olivia Colman

You can't have everything.

Olivia Colman

No, but it is the little bit.

Olivia Colman

So you don't regret it, do you?

Ollie

No.

Ollie

No.

Ollie

I mean, yeah, I think of all the couples we've done videos for, none of them, I'd like to think none of them have regretted using us.

Ollie

They've all been very happy with.

Ollie

With the results.

Olivia Colman

So what's the.

Olivia Colman

What's the five year plan?

Olivia Colman

Ollie, Shona's gonna quit her job.

Olivia Colman

You're gonna have an office in the house, maybe a dog, some kids running around, filmed on phones.

Olivia Colman

It's gonna go global.

Ollie

Dad, you've pretty much summed up.

Olivia Colman

That's it.

Olivia Colman

I've done it.

Ollie

That would be perfect.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

I mean, I don't.

Ollie

I should probably have a five year plan.

Ollie

I don't have it.

Ollie

No, he said, just growing as much as possible, doing as many videos as we can.

Olivia Colman

How long does it take you to edit a standard with.

Olivia Colman

With ten filmers and 200 clips?

Olivia Colman

And when you say 200 clips, is that like 30 seconds or a minute, or is that like half an hour of each clip?

Ollie

Well, it varies some.

Ollie

There'll be lots of, like, ten second clips, and then there might be like a half hour clip of a speech ceremony.

Olivia Colman

Yeah, yeah.

Ollie

Oh, yeah.

Ollie

So.

Ollie

But tends to be a few hours worth of footage.

Ollie

Fortunately, due to the miracle of technology, we're able to organize all the clips into chronological order, like, without having to do anything because it's all kind of in the data from the phones.

Olivia Colman

Oh, clever.

Ollie

We can get it all in the timeline because that was the initial problem I had, was.

Olivia Colman

Yeah, I bet it was doing it.

Ollie

And I was trying to organize, and then I eventually realized I could basically do it automatically.

Ollie

So it's a.

Ollie

I don't know, probably.

Ollie

It varies, obviously, from wedding to wedding, how much footage we get.

Ollie

On average, it's probably like a day.

Olivia Colman

Tidy.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

Not too long.

Olivia Colman

You're really living the life, aren't you?

Olivia Colman

What have you got on lately?

Olivia Colman

You're just hanging out, just.

Ollie

Well, we're moving house at the moment, so that's stress.

Olivia Colman

But I'll let you off then.

Olivia Colman

I think it's a brilliant idea.

Olivia Colman

And actually, like I say, with the cost, it's a very reasonable extra, budget wise, to have something quite lovely.

Olivia Colman

And now I know, because, like I said, my main concern was that you would just give the job to anyone and they'd be pissed as a new.

Olivia Colman

And wouldn't do anything.

Olivia Colman

If that did happen, though, would you refund me my money?

Ollie

Yeah, I mean, we.

Olivia Colman

In theory, if you've got nothing to edit.

Ollie

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ollie

Obviously there's no.

Ollie

There's no real.

Ollie

Our website already functions, so it doesn't really cost us to run the website.

Ollie

So if we don't have anything to edit, then we wouldn't.

Ollie

Yeah, we'd be able to.

Olivia Colman

I'm such a journalist, aren't I?

Olivia Colman

Really?

Olivia Colman

Asked the hard hitting questions.

Ollie

Yeah.

Ollie

Touch wood.

Ollie

That's never happened.

Ollie

Yet.

Ollie

So hopefully it won't happen.

Olivia Colman

I think.

Olivia Colman

No, I think it's a brilliant idea, actually.

Olivia Colman

Well done, you.

Olivia Colman

And I've not heard of it before.

Olivia Colman

Is it a thing now?

Olivia Colman

Have other people come, started coming out of the woodwork?

Ollie

No, there's no one else that I know of that does quite what we do.

Ollie

I mean, it's a blessing and a curse because it's.

Ollie

It's good because we're.

Ollie

It's unique, the only ones doing it.

Ollie

But it's also difficult because I always think when people first start planning their wedding, they have a list that comes straight to mind of what they want to book, which, you know, photographer, celebrant, florist, etcetera.

Ollie

No one has on that list, the film it yourself video service, because it's.

Olivia Colman

A bit niche, so.

Olivia Colman

Niche.

Ollie

So, yeah, the main thing that I am kind of trying to do at the moment is just get the name out there as much as possible and get the content out there.

Olivia Colman

Well, hopefully the three listeners that I have on this podcast will, because I'm convinced that no one listens, even though I'm told they do.

Olivia Colman

I'm convinced it's all a scam.

Olivia Colman

But hopefully they will.

Olivia Colman

They will hear this episode and they will get excited and book you for all their many, many weddings.

Olivia Colman

So I think it's a brilliant idea.

Ollie

Yeah, that's the other problem with weddings, is that people only have one.

Ollie

So you put all this effort into the marketing, you get a customer, they book you, but then they're not going to get married again, so.

Olivia Colman

Well, do you know this day and age.

Olivia Colman

I know what you mean.

Olivia Colman

And I find it, when you were talking earlier about investing in your couples and stuff and getting to know them, I find it particularly difficult because I really get to know my couples and we become friends and then the wedding happens and it's like, oh, Cheerio.

Olivia Colman

Thanks.

Olivia Colman

Bye.

Olivia Colman

I'm dead to them.

Ollie

Do they at least live?

Ollie

I guess you mostly focus locally or you.

Olivia Colman

No, I go all over.

Olivia Colman

But I do stay friendly, I do stay friends with, especially all my brides, which is lovely.

Olivia Colman

But, yeah, you put all this work in, but then it's the same if you're planning your own wedding, isn't it?

Olivia Colman

I suppose.

Ollie

Well, yeah, yeah, I guess you meet all the suppliers and then you feel like your best friends and then never see them again.

Ollie

On that note, can't end on that.

Olivia Colman

Yes.

Olivia Colman

Thank you, Ollie.

Olivia Colman

Cheerio.

Olivia Colman

Dead to me now.

Olivia Colman

Thank you so much.

Ollie

You don't need to get to know me.

Olivia Colman

I know we don't lose.

Olivia Colman

Yes, filmed.

Olivia Colman

I feel like I could come up with a.

Olivia Colman

With a catchphrase where you filmed on phones.

Olivia Colman

Doesn't matter that he's a wanker.

Olivia Colman

You'll get a great video.

Olivia Colman

You're not lovely.

Olivia Colman

All right, my darling.

Olivia Colman

Well, listen, thank you so much for coming on and chatting to me about it because I think.

Olivia Colman

I think it's very cool.

Olivia Colman

And good luck with everything.

Olivia Colman

Have you entered the wedding industry awards?

Ollie

I have not.

Ollie

Should.

Olivia Colman

I don't know.

Olivia Colman

That's an off air conversation.

Olivia Colman

But good luck with everything.

Olivia Colman

And I hope it just grows and grows and grows and gets bigger and bigger because I think it's fab.

Ollie

Thank you very much.

Olivia Colman

Lovely.

Ollie

Properly.

Olivia Colman

Take care.

Olivia Colman

Okay, this week's RSVP.

Olivia Colman

I have had a DM from Steve and Mark and they write, hi, Olivia.

Olivia Colman

Absolutely love the pod.

Olivia Colman

Quick question for you.

Olivia Colman

Even though we have said no children at our wedding next spring, it's causing.

Olivia Colman

I think it meant drama.

Olivia Colman

Misspelled that.

Olivia Colman

It's causing drama with some family members and we don't quite know how to navigate it.

Olivia Colman

Can you help?

Olivia Colman

Oh, no.

Olivia Colman

The thing is, you know how I feel about children at weddings.

Olivia Colman

I don't love it.

Olivia Colman

I'm sorry, I don't.

Olivia Colman

It's controversial, but I don't.

Olivia Colman

You've already sent the invitations.

Olivia Colman

You've already said, I imagine, politely, that you don't want kids at the wedding and they're still kicking up a fuss.

Olivia Colman

So my instinct is to say, it's not about you, Karen, cousin Karen.

Olivia Colman

It's not about you and it's not about your kids.

Olivia Colman

We love your kids, but this is our life, I assume.

Olivia Colman

Well, I shouldn't assume, but I imagine if you're not having kids, you don't have any kids of your own.

Olivia Colman

So just when I say to couples who don't have kids, their own, and they're not inviting kids to weddings, you haven't ruined your life yet, so why would you want to ruin your wedding day?

Olivia Colman

Okay.

Olivia Colman

I think all you can do in this situation, which is horrible and it's really common, is to say to them, whoever's causing drama about it is to say to them, with all due respect, I understand you're upset, and I'm really sorry about that.

Olivia Colman

But this is our day, this is how we feel.

Olivia Colman

And on this occasion, there's just no room for movement.

Olivia Colman

There's no negotiation.

Olivia Colman

I'm sorry if that upsets you, I'm genuinely sorry, but this is the way it is.

Olivia Colman

And if it upsets them and they're like, well, I'm not coming then.

Olivia Colman

Well then f to be honest, I'll come.

Olivia Colman

Okay, save yourself some money.

Olivia Colman

I think sometimes people use it as an excuse, especially if they're traveling.

Olivia Colman

And also, like I've said before, if you're saying no kids at your wedding, then you do kind of have to appreciate that.

Olivia Colman

Then that might mean that one or both of the couple you've invited can't come.

Olivia Colman

If they genuinely perhaps they are in a situation where they don't have anyone who can babysit, or they're not able to leave their child alone for whatever reason, then totally fair enough.

Olivia Colman

So you'll have you might have to accept that, which is a bit shit, but then, you know, swings and roundabouts where you often find children.

Olivia Colman

That sounded weird.

Olivia Colman

Anyhow, hope that helps.

Olivia Colman

Thank you so much for listening.

Olivia Colman

It really does mean the world.

Olivia Colman

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Olivia Colman

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Olivia Colman

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Olivia Colman

I want to hear all your tall tales.

Olivia Colman

See you soon.

Ollie

I'll marry you is a podcast by Olivia Colman.

Ollie

The music is Mister Sunny face by Wayne Jones, and the show is produced and edited by Drew Toynbee.