1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,240 Welcome to podcast answers, the show where I help you start and grow your podcast answering 2 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:20,440 any podcasting questions along the way. 3 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,440 That's right, guys. 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:29,080 Today, we are going to be talking about calls to action or CTAs and how to use them, what 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,080 they are. 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,480 But first, I want to remind you if you've not had a chance to go back and listen to 7 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:40,680 the last episode where I was talking with Todd Cochran, the CEO of Blueberry, I would 8 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:46,200 recommend doing that because we talked about podcast mirror, what is podcast mirror and 9 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:52,440 how you can use it to grow your podcast, but then also put in a lot of the new name tag, 10 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,900 namespace tags that podcasting 2.0 is allowing you to do such as funding and live and things 11 00:00:57,900 --> 00:01:04,240 like that because we do this show live here every Tuesday or Thursday, just depending 12 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,280 on what the day is. 13 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:12,120 But you can do that now with the podcast mirror, even if your host does not allow you to put 14 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,960 those in your own tags, so your own feed. 15 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:16,680 So I would suggest going back and listening to that episode. 16 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,880 It was a great episode. 17 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:24,600 Podcastanswers.com slash podcast mirror will get you to that specific episode. 18 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,260 But today we were talking about calls to action, what they are. 19 00:01:28,260 --> 00:01:30,380 So a call to action is just that. 20 00:01:30,380 --> 00:01:32,500 It's a call to action. 21 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:39,220 So normally in your podcast, you want somebody to do something, whether that's subscribe 22 00:01:39,220 --> 00:01:45,100 to your podcast or subscribe to your newsletter or go out and become a Patreon or send a 23 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:47,580 boost in their new podcast app. 24 00:01:47,580 --> 00:01:49,580 There's lots of different things that you want to do. 25 00:01:49,580 --> 00:01:54,960 You want to call somebody to action and it's crucial for engaging your audience and driving 26 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,120 them to take specific actions. 27 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:05,920 So there are some ideas and some things that we need to be thinking about when we're doing 28 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:11,440 these calls to actions because you can't just willy-nilly put 15 calls of actions, right? 29 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:18,960 So you want to be clear and specific exactly what you want your listeners to do. 30 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,660 That could be visiting your website, subscribing to your podcast, leaving a rating review, 31 00:02:23,660 --> 00:02:29,220 purchasing a product or something, but you want to be super, super specific. 32 00:02:29,220 --> 00:02:34,580 So you can say, you want to say, I want you to do this. 33 00:02:34,580 --> 00:02:39,580 I want you to go out and leave a review this week because, and you can give them a reason. 34 00:02:39,580 --> 00:02:43,780 Now don't say because it helps people find our podcast because it does not do that. 35 00:02:43,780 --> 00:02:47,660 You hear that in a lot of different podcasts, but it does not actually help you. 36 00:02:47,660 --> 00:02:52,880 It does not help people find your podcast when you are, when you, when you're people 37 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:53,880 rating your review. 38 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,480 So that's just a my soapbox rant and I'll get off of that right now. 39 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,160 But you want to be super specific with that and don't just say, I want you to purchase 40 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,160 my product. 41 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,880 I want you to say something specific. 42 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:12,040 So you can say, I want you to go out and if you get any enjoyment from this podcast, go 43 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:21,460 out and go to our buy me a coffee link and consider donating $5, 10, $20 or becoming 44 00:03:21,460 --> 00:03:22,960 a reoccurring member. 45 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:28,260 And you can give them the reasons that that's going to be good for them. 46 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:30,720 You can say it's going to get you extra stuff. 47 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,440 You can feel warm and fuzzy. 48 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,320 You could do whatever, but we need to be very specific on what you want them to do and why 49 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,400 that they should do it. 50 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Now you can place your calls to actions at specific points in your podcast and I would 51 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:51,880 limit the amount that you are wanting people to do specifically limit them back to back. 52 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:57,440 So at the end of your podcast, don't say go out and subscribe to our podcast, join our 53 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,880 Patreon list or buy me a coffee, buy my product. 54 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,000 Like you don't want to do three or four things. 55 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:08,800 You want to do one specific thing at a time when you in your calls to action because too 56 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,920 many calls to actions, people are not going to do them too many calls to actions. 57 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,520 People are just going to forget and not actually do it. 58 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,400 So you can do calls to actions at the beginning. 59 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,280 You can even do them in the middle and at the end, but you don't want to place too many 60 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,200 calls to actions back to back to back. 61 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:35,560 Now for me in this podcast, I use calls to actions usually at the beginning and at the 62 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:36,560 end. 63 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:44,760 My beginning one is usually something like go back and listen to the last episode or 64 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,560 do something or reminding people of what they can do at the beginning because usually that's 65 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,560 my intro. 66 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,680 I'm usually not into my topic yet, but I want to remind people, hey, you can subscribe to 67 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,200 the podcast if you've not done that now. 68 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,880 Now is the perfect time to go subscribe to this podcast. 69 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:07,120 So I use calls to actions at the beginning and at the end of my episodes. 70 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,240 And so you can do that again. 71 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,880 You can put them at the beginning at the end, but you need to be super specific and you 72 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,960 need to provide clear instructions that are easy to follow because you have to remember 73 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:25,400 one of the things you have to remember about calls to action and is that people in podcasts 74 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:31,960 specifically is people are usually doing something else when they're listening to your podcast 75 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,640 or watching your podcast. 76 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,880 They're maybe out driving, they may be out mowing the lawn, they may be doing the dishes. 77 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,680 Some things that they can't do right away. 78 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,120 So you want to make it really easy for them to do. 79 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,520 And one of the ways that I do that is I have short links. 80 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,760 So if you've noticed, I've said things like if you want to get help with your podcast, 81 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:58,400 go to podcast dancers.com slash contact or podcast dancers.com slash help out. 82 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:04,000 If I want someone to go to buy me a coffee and help me buy the new thing that I want 83 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,160 to buy or you're going to support the podcast or whatever, like I make it really super easy 84 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:13,720 or you know, go to podcast dancers.com slash boost and that will take you to the place. 85 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,820 It's super easy because people are going to remember your URL usually. 86 00:06:18,820 --> 00:06:25,640 So they're going to remember podcast dancers.com slash and then whatever I want them to do, 87 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,040 like support or buy me a coffee or boost or whatever. 88 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,720 It makes it really easy because they can, it's really clear instructions on how they 89 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:34,720 can do it. 90 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:39,440 So if I want them to leave a review, I say go to podcast dancers.com slash review or 91 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:46,320 whatever because they can get to it really easily and remember it later. 92 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:53,300 The other thing you could do is you could put a QR code in your chapter art for a specific 93 00:06:53,300 --> 00:06:55,300 chapter where you're making the call to action. 94 00:06:55,300 --> 00:07:02,220 You can use chapters and during that call to action, bring up a QR code and then also 95 00:07:02,220 --> 00:07:05,100 chapters also allow you to do links to things. 96 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:09,420 And so you could have a link to that specific place. 97 00:07:09,420 --> 00:07:15,540 But if someone's not using that, an app that has a chapter link in it, the great thing is 98 00:07:15,540 --> 00:07:21,320 you could use chapter art, then people can easily take a screenshot of that, save that 99 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,440 to their device and then go back later and easily get down to, you know, get to the URL 100 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,880 that you want them to go. 101 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:34,480 So another thing that I would say is you need to rotate your calls to actions, keep them 102 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,200 fresh and varied. 103 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,840 You don't want to have the same thing over and over and over and over and over again. 104 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,840 Now it is good. 105 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Repetition is good. 106 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:51,980 It is okay to have repeated ones because it takes several times for people to actually 107 00:07:51,980 --> 00:07:55,420 listen in here and get that into their system and go, Oh yeah, I do want to actually support 108 00:07:55,420 --> 00:08:00,820 podcast dancers by going to podcast dancers.com slash buy me a coffee, which is my buy me a 109 00:08:00,820 --> 00:08:02,820 coffee if you guys want to support the show. 110 00:08:02,820 --> 00:08:06,820 If you get any value out of this, you know, I would suggest going to do that. 111 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:13,260 So but I would, I would, I would vary them up a little bit because if it's the same thing 112 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:19,360 every time, you know, for the whole series of your podcast, you know, the whole season, 113 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,520 the whole, whatever it is, a hundred episodes, whatever you're doing, however many episodes 114 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,240 you're in, people are going to forget that they're going to tune out because they're 115 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,760 going to hear the same thing. 116 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,520 Just like in your favorite podcast, a lot of times if they have banter at the very beginning, 117 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,680 you're going to hit that 30 second, 30 second, 30 second until you get to the, to the actual 118 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:41,920 meat of the content or on the, on the flip side at the end of an episode, when you start 119 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,820 to hear that, that music come in, what do you do? 120 00:08:46,820 --> 00:08:47,980 You know that it's going to end the same. 121 00:08:47,980 --> 00:08:51,140 You know that they're going to say, this is the way you can contact me. 122 00:08:51,140 --> 00:08:56,900 And so you tune out, you forward to the end, you finish your episode, you just don't do 123 00:08:56,900 --> 00:08:57,900 that. 124 00:08:57,900 --> 00:09:00,020 So call us to action. 125 00:09:00,020 --> 00:09:04,620 You want to vary them where they're at in your episode. 126 00:09:04,620 --> 00:09:08,300 And you also want to vary the calls to action that you're doing. 127 00:09:08,300 --> 00:09:15,160 So it's not the same thing every time and people are, don't just get used to it and 128 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,160 tune it out. 129 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,920 And the last thing that you can do is you can provide incentives for taking a specific 130 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:21,920 desired action. 131 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:29,440 And this could, you know, be exclusive content like for buy me a coffee or discounts or access 132 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:35,320 to special events or incentives that can motivate your audience to ask to act. 133 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,180 And that's good for some things. 134 00:09:38,180 --> 00:09:39,540 I mean, you know, that's what it works. 135 00:09:39,540 --> 00:09:46,780 That's why people do contests because when you incentivize people to do something, they're 136 00:09:46,780 --> 00:09:48,300 more likely to do it. 137 00:09:48,300 --> 00:09:53,660 So I know for me, when I get survey things in my email saying fill out the survey, if 138 00:09:53,660 --> 00:10:02,020 the survey is just a survey, I'm 99.9% of the time I'm not going to do that survey. 139 00:10:02,020 --> 00:10:06,800 But if that survey says, Hey, fill out the survey and I'll give you $25 Amazon gift card 140 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,440 or $50 or $100 Amazon gift card, you better believe it. 141 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,160 I'm opening that survey link right now. 142 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:20,760 I'm going out there right now and I'm going to take that survey and be looking in my email 143 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,480 box for that, for that reward. 144 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,640 So you can definitely incentivize people to do that. 145 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,980 Do you have a call to action on your podcast? 146 00:10:32,980 --> 00:10:34,540 If not, why not? 147 00:10:34,540 --> 00:10:36,900 Because your episode is there. 148 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:43,100 Yes, it's there to get people get the information out there, but it's also there and you can 149 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:49,140 use your platform to invite people to do things, to take action. 150 00:10:49,140 --> 00:10:58,200 So for instance, I'm going to invite you now to go out to podcastanswers.com slash buy 151 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,640 me a coffee. 152 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:10,600 And if you get any value out of this show, I would recommend you go out and go out and 153 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:17,360 support us by becoming a monthly buy me a coffee supporter or a one-off supporter, whatever 154 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,460 you find value in this show. 155 00:11:20,460 --> 00:11:28,240 I ask that you go out and give that value back to me as a way to thank me. 156 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,780 But it also allows me to make this show even better for you. 157 00:11:33,780 --> 00:11:36,500 So guys, thanks for subscribing. 158 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:38,780 Thanks for being a part of this show. 159 00:11:38,780 --> 00:11:46,140 Thanks for watching and just thanks for being an awesome member of this community, guys. 160 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:47,360 For that, have a great week. 161 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:57,800 Are you ready? 162 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,860 you