Hello and welcome to hey, Boomer, the show. For those

of us who believe that we are never too old to set another

goal or dream a new dream. My name is Wendy Green,

and I am your host for Hay Boomer. And I

have a question for those of you who have pets.

Have you ever learned any lessons from your

pets? Now, I have to tell you about my cat,

Pepper. She's very smart. And Pepper, I have

trained her to be able to shake paws, shake

hands, and occasionally she'll

lie down and sometimes she'll give me some sugar for a treat.

So I'm very proud of Pepper, and

people say cats can't learn, but definitely she does. But

what about dogs? Dogs are easily trained, right? People train

their dogs to do all kinds of things. But my question is

really, what have you learned from your

pets? So when I was young, we

had a sheep dog. His name was Curly. And

Curly taught us about safety and

emotions and how to play. I mean, he was

really an amazing dog. I think he was a human in a dog's body.

But Pepper teaches me to stop

work. I can sit there in front of my computer for way

too long, and she'll come in, she'll bring a toy, or she'll jump up on

the desk, or she'll jump up on my lap and say, mama, I need some

time. And it reminds me I need to get up and walk

away. So there are things that we can learn from our

pets. In the book, we're going to talk about today

tales from Tibet. Little Tashi

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show notes. All right, looks like we have a

great audience, Philip, so let me bring you on. Hello,

Philip. Hello, Wendy.

So let me do a brief introduction. Okay,

so I want to start by saying that Philip is my friend. We

met in Northern Virginia when I was living in

Leesburg and both of us were in the Rotary Club.

I know Philip to be a can do type of person, full

of enthusiasm and optimism.

Professionally, Philip has extensive experience in

executive coaching and as a management consultant. He

also has 50 plus years of sales experience from hands

on selling to training and coaching.

Philip is a native of Nashville, Tennessee.

He received his BA from Birmingham Southern

College and then his MBA from Owen School of

Management at Vanderbilt University. He and his

beautiful wife Donna live in Ashburn, Virginia, with

Tashi, their Tibetan terrier, who is featured

in his new children's book, gorgeous book, Tales

from Tibet. Philip, do you have Tashi with you today?

Wendy? I do. Oh, let's meet little Tashi for

just a moment.

Oh, my goodness. Look at that face.

Tashi, you are a star. A star of the book.

This is Tashi, two and a half year old Tibetan terrier.

Everyone tell me about the Tibetan terrier

breed. Oh, it's wonderful. It's a pretty hidden

breed out of about 140 plus breeds of

dogs. It was only sort of stayed up in the

Himalayas for several thousand years with the Buddhist

monks. And it was only discovered in

1926 by a British doctor.

A woman doctor treated a Tibetan family and

they gave the Doctor who loved dogs, they gave the woman

doctor a puppy. And it was a

strange looking breed with the hair down. You see them in the dog

shows, the hair hanging down and couldn't see her or the

eyes. And they'd never seen the dogs before. The doctor never

had. So the doctor took the little puppy down to Delhi,

India, to a dog show, and they didn't

know what to do, what to name it, so they called it

a terrier. It's not a terrier, but they named it

the Tibetan terrier, sent it back to be bred

again, to come back as a purebred. So in

29, I believe it became the pure breed

in the world. And then two women in

London area started

breeding them and it still stayed pretty quiet

under the radar. It started being more popular in Europe and has

remained very popular in Europe. And then the

first one landed in America in Great Falls,

Virginia, in 1955, not

too far, not too far away from here. And then the

oldest Tibetan terrier club is the Mount Vernon, Tibet Interior Club

here in our area. And that's sort of the story of

it. It says only about 800 born a year in America, I believe.

Oh, wow. So that'll be a part of the story as

we get into our conversation, because

they're somewhat rare and somewhat very special.

They're called the Magical Dog of Tibet, and

Tibetan people call them little people. Little people.

Well, yeah. And I'm so glad we got to meet Tashi. She's so

pretty. So tell me, Philip, what

inspired you to write a children's book? I mean, you've been working with

adults in business all your life, right?

And somebody asked me the other day in an interview,

we didn't have children ourselves. We've got a lot that we look after and take

care of in our extended family. But Donna and I never had

children, and yet I was one.

So even though we didn't have them ourselves, I was as

a young boy, I had a little dog, and then later I had a dogs.

But it dawned on me

when Donna and I began, we got Sashi, and I

want to tell you a little about so, Sashi, for those of you

that haven't, this is

sashi is black and white Tibetan

terrier. So this was our first dog. We got her in 2012.

And this

was sort of the background of the book

because we got her at six months old.

And the woman that we got her from was planning to

show her Sashi's mother and brother in

Russia on the dog circuit and the show circuit. So she

was really being prepared to be a real show dog around the

world. And the woman decided that maybe she wasn't quite big

enough and that she would let us buy her. So we got

Sashi, but we got her at six months old, so

that's like, she hadn't been around humans or hadn't been around other

dogs for taking a four year old home from the hospital or

something. We missed all of that early development,

nurturing and caring. So we started a lot of

training and remedial work and it developed little Sashi

into a wonderful sort of like the daughter I never had. And

so it was quite a

father daughter relationship. And then, as I

said, the breed lives to about

18 or 19 years old. So out of all the dog breeds, it's one of

the longest living breeds of all. And

then, surprisingly

sadly, Sashi got Lymphoma

and at eight years old. So we went through

prayer and counseling and what to do and started a lot of

oncology treatments. But

she didn't make it and we've all

had a lot of your listeners. We've all had pets and all, but it was

just the premature death when I had planned on her

living so much longer and to have her pass

away at eight, it just rocked my

world. Devastating. Yeah. So that's the background,

is that I began to think that losing

Sashi and then was going through the

whole grieving process. I'd hired a grief

counselor. This was all during the COVID period. So we were all

working remotely and trying, but struggling.

And I was struggling. And

Donna had reached out to several breeders,

and as I mentioned, there's only about 800 born a year, so you have

to get on a waiting list. And it was like months before we would

really be thinking about getting another dog. And

I didn't know how soon the timing, what's the right

time, but as God sort of stepped

in and felt that we needed

to fill that hole up a little bit. So

Tashi became about came to us because of a

cancellation a family had ordered and then had

some situations in their family, and they needed to cancel

their order. So the breeder reached out to Donna and

we got Tashi a month after Sashi's passing.

Oh, my gosh. It was during that time that I began

to think, here I had an eight year old that had just passed

away, and now I had a nine week old.

And literally one night, Wendy, I thought it was

almost like I could hear Sashi speaking to me

late at night. She said,

I'll help you. And so it was like the

spirit and the guidance of Sashi

was reaching down and saying, well, I'll help you with this little

puppy. So that's the beginning. And then I

started thinking, well, what a little puppy could learn from an eight year old

is the same one thing, I think what a little boy and little girl can

learn. And so I had a couple of folks

that had followed me on Facebook for

years, and they said, you always write some uplifting

posts and encourage folks, and you're very positive.

But several of them said, I think you need to write something about

your dogs all came together. And

that's how it came about. Yeah.

And it was fun. Following the development of this, philip, as you

were putting the book together, you created something you called

The Tashi Chronicles, the website you said will be up in

July. But

following you on Facebook, I kept seeing Tashi

talking to us about what she's doing and her experiences.

And it was really so much fun to watch that.

As we started the show, I said, what have people learned

from their pets? So my question to you is, what have you learned

from having Sashi and Tashi?

Well, so many times we see in

mailings, we've all seen the plaques about

unconditional love. We see what it's like.

People talk about regardless of how bad their

day is, they come home and they're greeted by a dogs who sort of

loves you regardless. And I've got one

of my most precious gifts a family gave to

me that said, be the man that your

dog thinks you are. And

there's a lot to that. There's a lot to that. Yeah. Dogs,

definitely. Cats, not so much. My focus outside

of cats or something else, my focus is about dogs.

And what I began to think about is

we can learn a lot. We watch them develop.

We watch the Tibetan terrier has a stubborn

streak, so I have to learn if I've got a stubborn streak,

and I've been told I do, there's a controlling. There's a lot of

aspects that we have in our own development that

carry over and how you correct them and how you

train and how you work with those behavioral

aspects I think, can apply

to people as well. Yeah, I think so,

too. So I'm curious, Philip. I

mean, writing a book, it's one thing to write a blog or

a post on Facebook, but writing a book, that's a big

endeavor. Can you talk me through, from

the beginning, kind of how you even

got started and how you found a publisher and your fabulous

graphic person? Illustrator. The illustrator

people are just I'll take them in that order.

Is that I've been told or been asked

over my years in business and consulting,

I've always had a passion for leadership and leadership

development, and a lot of people had encouraged me to write a

book about leadership. But there are thousands and tens

of thousands of books written every year on leadership that I just

didn't feel inclined to sort of get thrown into that

mix until this dogs story came

along. And all of a sudden, I began to think

that there's a segment

of children, and I

reflected back on my Boy Scout days. So what I learned

as a Boy Scout of the Scout Law

of trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly,

courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave,

clean, and reverent the twelve tenets of the Scout Law

began to weave into this book because

most of those are things that I needed this puppy to learn.

And then I had learned them 60 years

ago. So I started bringing them together.

And a friend of mine who

has been a friend now for 50 years

introduced me. He's a writer and does some

motivation speaking, and so he introduced me

to Tracy Jones, the CEO of Tremendous Life

Book. And so instead of being self published, which

is very popular right now, I was blessed and

so fortunate to have a publisher put

me under their wing for Tremendous Life Book.

So I have them to

thank, and then they provide. And didn't you tell me I'm sorry

to interrupt you, but didn't you tell me that you first submitted a draft to

them and they're like, no, you got to redo.

This all began in June of

2021. So everybody thinks back where we were with COVID

and where we were coming out of all of this and dealing with

a new way of living and getting along. So all of this

I meet the publisher and their staff at

Tremendous Life Books in June of 2021.

And by this time I had been

writing what I thought was going

to be something. I was very proud of it and it was a

whole story. That a lot of what I'm referencing

here. I was describing what Tashi was telling the story

and Tashi was describing what she had been learning.

And I sent this like 4000 words or something to the

publisher and we arranged this zoom call

and they got on the phone with me and just destroyed it all. They

tore it all up and it was a little

discouraging. Yeah, I bet it was.

So one of the lessons I learned is that just like what Tashi

learns to be patient and persevere, I

had to back up and regroup. Now, not only did they

send me back to the drawing board, but they did provide the guidance.

So they said a couple of things. They said,

you need some adventure. You're teaching good things, but children

won't read it, but they won't be interested in it.

So lo and behold, Donna's cousin came up with the idea one day.

She called and she said I think these two dogs are on a magic carpet.

Or maybe they're on an eagle, the wings of an eagle. Oh, she said that

that's how the eagle came. Because the

first thing I wrote though, that the dogs were right here just thinking

about where they came from and all of a sudden the eagle is

going to transport them magically to Tibet. So everything

is said in Tibet. Whereas the whole first draft

was Tashi learning here locally about what and

thinking about where they have come from. But

no, going to Tibet, which is. Such a beautiful part

of the story, Philip, because not only are you teaching some of these life

lessons, leadership lessons, but you're also giving kids an insight

into life in Tibet, which is such a

foreign place. They would never have that. I've had more people

now, this is just the 6th week that since the book launched on

Amazon, it's setting all kinds of records. I'm just

touched and barely astonished, but in the

response, the feedback that I'm hearing, many take from the

lessons that they can teach their grandchildren or

themselves. But I'm hearing also second to

these little lessons and tips for life lessons.

I'm hearing about people learning about another magical part of

the world. So they learn about a new

breed of dogs. They learn about a culture of people

up in the Himalayas. And then the colors. There's something about

the colors that come to life

up in that part of the world. Have made it

all very special. And then your question about the

illustrator. So the crowning part of this, and

I'd be glad to talk with any of your listeners later

about I reached out through a new platform called

Upwork, where I pushed out that I was looking for

an illustrator and said I

envisioned about 25 illustrations and described I was thinking

about watercolors. I had about 40 responses in an

hour from all over the world. And I began to interview them,

and I began to get down to finalists, and I sent

pictures to three finalists of Sashi and Tashi. I

said, it's very important that you be able to draw

and paint the dogs as they are, because the Tibetan terrier is

a very unique look. And I found a young woman, 26 years

old, in Loveland, Poland. And so we

have developed a wonderful friendship over

2000, corresponding back and forth over

2000 times. There's now 60 illustrations

in the book of watercolors, and people are wanting

to buy just the illustrations now. I'm telling you, it's absolutely

gorgeous. The Tales From

Tibet story I think anybody

that has a grandchild from, I don't know what,

Philip, maybe from age five up to about twelve, we

spoke. To 55 1st graders in DC. Took Tashi

and Donna and I downtown, and they were

like six years old. They were tons of questions,

but it's really designed by seven to twelve, something about that

age group, but some six years old. They're really picking up on

it. Here's another

example for those of you. The pictures are gorgeous,

absolutely gorgeous.

I think the other thing is, you have the lessons

titled but there's More than just a

lesson in each chapter. So

you might say it starts with trust or being courageous or

perseverance, but that's not the only lesson in that chapter.

And I feel like if my grandchildren were still young

enough they're teenagers, they know everything now.

But if they were still young enough, I could read

one chapter and we could have a discussion

for days, really, about some of the things that you

talk about in that chapter. It's wonderful to hear that from you, Wendy. I'm

hearing that from all over. That just one chapter. And people are getting a lot

of conversations out of it among their family.

And the illustrations by themselves are

giving people a lot to talk about. And

when we spoke to this first graders, they were

raising hands, saying they said, is it real? They saw

these illustrations and they began to think that they really had gotten

on the wings of an eagle and flush. It just made it come

to life. And over and over again, these

little first graders said, how did the

artists make them look so realistic? So

it's really been a joy. It was a good, a

good motivation of the two of you. You know, she made it

look real, but you gave them, you gave their

personalities. You know, you brought that out and you made them real,

too. And little

Tasha, you could see her getting frustrated, like when she's trying to cross

this log, and she's like, I just want to make it easy.

I just want to do it.

Let's take that story just for a moment. That's my favorite chapter.

And when they try to cross this stream and so

Tashi has seen think of this, of those

listeners we've all had other people at our age, they

do better, that made better. They were more successful in

business. There were something and we compare ourselves

and we shouldn't, but it's just human nature. It's the same

way with Tashi. Tashi remembers dogs that she had seen

that could be more agile. They could go across the logs. They were

faster. They could jump higher. And so that was a little frustrating.

She tried to get across the log and falls in the water. So

she had to not only see that she wasn't as adept

and athletic as some of her friends back home, but

she had to get back up and try it again. So that lesson

there means that it's natural to compare ourselves to

others. She had to learn not to do that, that she was

unique. Second is that she fell in the water,

and that was disappointing. So now she had a little pride to deal with,

and she had to get back up. There you go. She had to get

back up and try it again. And then they had

to practice. So there's a chapter just on

practicing, even beyond the disappointment

and the persevering. Now they practice. And here's something that

we found. Wendy, you remember this from your coaching business. A lot

of times today in business, we forget to celebrate.

We get on to the next project, or we finish up on

budget or whatever the metrics are that are driving us. But

teams are forgetting to celebrate. So I added a

separate section on that chapter. When the two dogs are able

to get across the stream on the log,

they had to pause for a minute. It's sort of giving thanks.

It's being grateful, but it's celebrating. So they could just

celebrate for the moment and then get on with their journey. And

that's what I love about this book, Philip. I mean, you've brought

in lessons that we've learned in our 70

years. You've brought in lessons that you learned as a Scout.

And in just that one chapter, there's

perseverance and there's not comparing yourself, and there's celebration

and there's practice. How exciting is this?

Thank you, Wendy. Thank you. Yeah. So you're getting ready to do this

website, The Tashi Chronicles. What is that going to

involve? Well, it's

going to be an umbrella. The Tashi chronicles. I encourage

any of your listeners on my Facebook,

on my personal Facebook, you can find The Tashi Chronicles.

And we're doing about 50 episodes to date

on the tashi Chronicles and that will begin

to be the next series of book. So there's going to be

the stories of more adventures of Tashi and

Sashi under the umbrella of the Tashi

Chronicles. So Tales from Tibet is really the

first offering of the

Tashi Chronicles. So there will be another book that we'll

be proceeding with in the near

future. And then there are sort of speaking engagements

and things. Some people want to come in and speak to their teams

using the book sort of as a leadership tool

in business. So in business

just as you were, so astute to capture it.

Again, what we've learned from dogs we can apply to

our teams, we can apply to our small groups.

So several organizations I'm in

conversation with to come in almost as a speaker there in a

leadership consulting, but wrapping it around, learning from the dogs

and learning from what? These two and the eagle, the eagle

again, the wise eagle flying overhead. There's a lot of

imagery when you think about that,

the eagle of

being able to watch over them. And we all probably have

somebody in our life that is sort of watching over

us or we have an entity that sort

of we look toward to sort of give us the guidance. And that's

again, the symbolism of the eagle in our life that

is sort of always present and always there,

keeping us okay. So

the Tashi Chronicles is going to become the

ongoing, like I say, the umbrella under which these

different things will be included.

Yeah. So you all follow Philip on Facebook.

I will put your link to that in the show notes too. So

what inspires you or motivates you every day? Philip

well, you've known me now twelve years and it's

always a quest of being better. I guess I

follow it's like a lot of some of your presenters

and guest speakers have all been about being a continuous

learner. I can reinforce

what a lot of your presenters and

guest speakers have talked about never

being too old to learn, being hungry to learn,

staying curious. These are again chapters in the book,

but they apply to us. I'm 72 now,

so to be able to do this at 72,

that by itself is a story that you can let others know

that you're never too. Old to write

a children's book. You're never told to write a children's book.

I'm at a point in my life, I guess that season I've heard some of

your presenters talk about their seasons of life and I'm

in a more of a giving back, more serving

than continuing to try to sharpen the I'm not trying to sharpen the

saw and as much as I once

did but it was pretty much my

mantra for years. It's just to continue living every day to the

fullest, trying to become

better in every aspect of my life.

And so I've been big on trying to hone my strengths and

working on my weaknesses and shortcomings.

I've had years of working that, and now I'm at a

chapter where I do feel called to

be serving and giving back more. So I think that's the

next part of this. I appreciate that. Although I

have always seen you as a servant leader. Thank you.

Yeah. So you've always also been a

coach. In fact, you coached me for a while, so you've always

been a coach and an advisor. I wonder if there has been

someone in your life that has given you some advice that has been

your coach and advisor. It's

so wonderful. Yes. I mentioned earlier in our interview

that the gentleman who I've known

for 51 years now was my first

manager in college. I've worked during the summers.

I sold Bibles with the Southwestern Company from Nashville,

Tennessee. I sold Bibles door to door. That had to

be hard. It was hard. It's hard one

summer. So you don't quit. You

learn about perseverance. You learn a whole lot going door to

door. I've heard a lot of no and dealt with a lot of

rejection. But to learn it at 17 I started

when I was 18, and then it was

crazy to do it one summer, but I did it for

six summers. Oh, my. So I did it through college and

up through graduate school and recruited students at

15 other colleges. So at at 20

years old, I was under this tutelage of a gentleman

by the name of David Dean.

If I had to think of, probably the first mentor in my

life was David Dean, who I met when I was a

sophomore in college. And we've remained friends now for 51

years. That's wonderful. And

he was the inspiration that said, look, he said, you need

to write a book. And he's the one that introduced me he's the one that

introduced me to tremendous life books. I think he's

listening too. I think I saw him. Oh, my God. David, if

you're on, leave us a comment. Let us know you're

here. Yeah. So that's beautiful to have had that

in your life, somebody that you're still friends with 51 years later.

I've had coaches second to that. I think my coaches I had a

couple of good coaches in high school and my scout master,

I mentioned some of those really stand out

as men that were really guiding me

and inspiring me over the years. Yeah.

So looking back over the last couple of years,

losing Sashi, being inspired to write this

book, writing it and seeing it in print now,

what advice or what takeaways would you leave for people

listening to the show?

Well, it's

the it's never as we've said, it's never too late.

This was a labor of love that what it

resulted in was not what it set out to

be. So I had a

tendency for the first time in my life, I believe in. Some of the

covey principles of sort of beginning with the end in mind.

But in this case, I didn't know what the end would be. I was just

writing from my heart. So I encourage any of

your listeners to just

start somewhere. Start I did find

great solace in writing things

down. Again,

you can record things. I recorded a

lot of the book by walking around and

just talking into this. There's a record app that

then it sends it over to India and it was transcribed

and sent back to me in the next 10 hours. So

there's so many tools that we have now to take thoughts out of

our head, get them down on paper, and I

encourage all of your listeners and viewers to just try

that. It may coming out of that, it might see both

a writing desire. There could be some poetry, there could

be some painting. This illustration

thing, what I saw with this young

woman who had never painted, a dog, who

had never dealt write me

2000 interactions

using the WhatsApp we live by, WhatsApp

and imagine. So she had proposed 25

illustrations and we end up with 60 illustrations. And all of

them are more grand than she had ever dreamt. So this

exceeded her dreams. So the message

here is the dreams are

there. It's like let it flow, let it

open up. Don't put any lid on anything

because you just don't know. And just allow

it to grow and

open up. Never did I dream that this book would

be what it looks like. Yeah,

I had an idea once. I'd been living with it for two years. But

until I'm holding it and then I'm seeing the

60 illustrations all together in this beautifully bound

cover, it's only that moment that I

realized that we had something here. Up until then,

I knew I was excited about it, but I just

say the lessons are just reach out

there, keep thinking of something to touch and be

thinking about who you can impact. I

just kept thinking, if I was a little boy, I would love

this. So it ended up it never was really what

I was writing. It was more what I was reading.

It was the gift you were giving to young Philip. So I was thinking,

this is what I wish I'd had.

I wish that Donna and I had had this book

when we were starting out. So it's like it was

reverse. I never once remembered saying,

this is what I think you should know. It was more, this is what I

wish I had learned how I was learning it.

Yeah. It was different

than me describing to a

reader what I think they should be learning. But when

they're hearing it from the dogs, it all comes

together. And the publisher said that the

editor said that they're not going to listen to me, but they will

listen to these dogs. That's right. Saying to us.

There's a message right there. Great

takeaways, great. Your enthusiasm, Philip, is

just so contagious. I love that. I love that

you came onto the show to share the Tales from Tibet

with us. Anybody that has grandkids that are in

the six to twelve year old age group,

I highly recommend it. You will love the images, you

will love the stories and the conversations this will bring

to your kids. Let me show people

how they can reach out to you. So if you have specific questions for

Philip, he is graciously saying you can email him at

pmartin@vtashicronicles.com.

And if you'd like to follow him on Facebook so that you'll know when the

Tashychronicles website is available, you can follow

him at Philip Lawrencemartin on

Facebook.com. So check him out.

He's one of my dear friends. Wendy can I add one more thing?

Sure. For your listeners, one thing

that I wanted to remind them of, that

Amazon has this category, Children Mindfulness,

and the Tales from Tibet has remained at the

top of that category for the first six weeks that it's been

launched. And that's really unheard of.

So there's a category, Children Mindfulness

and Think about that topic.

That phrase, Children mindfulness applies to a lot of what

we've been discussing through our whole interview together. But this

category on Amazon has kept Tales from Tibet really at

the top of that. I saw the other day that people in

14 countries have already bought copies of Tales

from Tibet. So we're really getting some momentum

and some visibility. Well, congratulations,

Philip. No, today helps a lot,

so we're getting the word out. Wendy well,

congratulations for putting together such a beautiful book

and sharing it with us. Okay,

so next Monday is July

3, and so I will not be doing a show

because it's right before the fourth and people will be traveling, so I

won't be doing a show then. And then the following Monday, July

10, I will be on the Wind Jammer

Cruise with my grandson Alex. That's a

Road Scholar trip, so we will not be able to

do a show from there. But on the 17th, July

17, I'm going to do a solo show and I'm going to talk about

transitions and some of the making

sense of some of the changes that we go through in life and the difference,

as I see it, between changes and transitions. So

stay tuned for that. That's going to be July 17.

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Philip. Thank you. So Wendy. Yeah. I'd like to

always leave the audience with the belief that we can all live with

courage, live with relevance and live with

cure curiosity. And remember that we are never

too old to set another goal or dream a

new dream. My name is Wendy Green

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