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Speaker BHey, Jake, how you doing today?
Speaker CI'm working on my tans, Scott.
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Speaker BOkay, Jake, got a big show teed up here today.
Speaker BWe're going to be talking about a few supply chain trends that keep on your radar here in 2026.
Speaker BHey, the Supreme Court has a big decision on tariffs that may be released this week.
Speaker BWe'll talk about it.
Speaker BGiven the energy demand spike, we're also going to be discussing one big development in the new chapter of nuclear energy.
Speaker BWe're going to get a supply chain leadership pulse.
Speaker BCheck with the one and only Jake Barr.
Speaker BAll that and much, much more.
Speaker BAnd in about 12 minutes or so, who's counting?
Speaker BWe're bringing in a special guest.
Speaker BTanzel Uden with manifest is with us here today.
Speaker BYou can enjoy his perspective.
Speaker BI promise.
Speaker CTime, event on board.
Speaker BThat's right, Jake.
Speaker BAnd we may even squeeze a little bit of basketball, Jake.
Speaker BYou think we'll have time for that today?
Speaker CAlways.
Speaker BAll right, so folks, stay tuned for a big edition of the Buzz powered by epg right here today on Supply Chain Now.
Speaker BOkay, so before we bring on Tanzel Jake here on the Buzz powered by epg.
Speaker BI'm going to tackle three things on the front end and we're gonna start, Jake, with one of my favorite recent additions of.
Speaker BWith that said, and I love this quote here from indra, the former CEO of PepsiCo.
Speaker BWhile supply chains represent the biggest cost to a company, they're also its biggest Opportunity.
Speaker BI love that.
Speaker BWell, folks, in this edition with that said, we let off with January being National Human Trafficking Prevention Month here in the US So stay tuned.
Speaker BWe'll talk more about that later.
Speaker BIn today's show.
Speaker BWe're we offered up a few news nuggets, Jake, including ups, continues to shake up its network, driven in part by its reduction of Amazon volume.
Speaker BBig reduction.
Speaker BAvery Dennison research shows that this isn't so good.
Speaker BGlobal food waste is gonna reach $540 billion in 2026, Jake.
Speaker BThat's up 14 billion from last year.
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Speaker BSo, Jake, did you get a chance to dive into with that said this week?
Speaker CYep, I did.
Speaker CAnd I've got some of my pithy takeaways as always.
Speaker BOkay, I'm hanging on to my socks.
Speaker BI'm ready to roll.
Speaker CWell, I mean, if we're going to hit the human trafficking piece later, I'm compelled, Scott, because I work with a team that's Tim Cinsonake I want to give a shout out to and the TMS first folks down in Texas, they do in a remarkable event every year to raise funds for the victims of human trafficking.
Speaker CYou know, one thing is the ability to limit it and reduce it.
Speaker CThe important piece is to extract people that have been captured and really kidnapped into it, right?
Speaker CThat's right.
Speaker CAnd then how to get them the support services they need to get and rebuild their lives.
Speaker BWhen human trafficking first hit my radar a few years back, I was of the ilk like I think many are.
Speaker BThey don't know the size of the problem.
Speaker BEven modern slavery and human trafficking, which are travesty of cousins, we're talking, it impacts millions and millions of people.
Speaker CIt's just incredible.
Speaker CIt's the most, it's the most mentally disturbing thing.
Speaker CIf you ever have the opportunity, I encourage you to get involved and to actually go to an event.
Speaker CIf you literally meet some of the survivors of it.
Speaker CIt will change your life.
Speaker BIt sure will.
Speaker BAnd we're going to touch on more this more once Tanzel joins us here in a few minutes.
Speaker BBut folks, I'll put two things on your radar and you'll find these.
Speaker BAnd with that said, tat, formerly Truckers Against Trafficking, They're a great nonprofit doing big things across the U.S. tatnonprofit.org is our URL and Hope for justice, doing big things globally in the fight against human trafficking and modern slavery.
Speaker BSo you'll find more.
Speaker BAnd with that said, and we're going to touch on Human trafficking and National Human Trafficking Prevention Month momentarily.
Speaker BJake, really quick.
Speaker BI want to share a couple links before I switch over and get a supply chain leadership pulse check from you.
Speaker BI want to start with Tricia.
Speaker BAs always, she's making it easy sharing a few links.
Speaker BFolks, you can click on the link right there and dive in yourself to the latest edition of.
Speaker BWith that said, she also shared the link.
Speaker BTo learn more about Allen, the American Logistics Aid Network, you can go to allenaid.org and again, you can find specific projects where they're looking for your help.
Speaker BAnd with that said, and Rachel.
Speaker BHey, Scott, Jake and Trisha, Rachel listening in from Holland, Michigan.
Speaker BRachel, outstanding.
Speaker BI wonder if it's as cold up there as it is here in Atlanta today.
Speaker BAnd Alan Jacques, the Rodney Dangerfield of global supply chain.
Speaker BAlan, as always, great to see you here today.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BSo, Jake, it's time for a patented supply chain leadership pulse check with the one and only Jake Barr, the Hall of Famer.
Speaker BHe doesn't just have a great jump shot, but he also moves supply chain mountains like none other.
Speaker BSo, Jake, when you think of chief supply chain officers and what their priorities are here, as we're not Even in the third week of 2026, what comes.
Speaker CTo mind, they're all going absolutely bonkers at the moment because the level of instability has ratcheted up once again.
Speaker CSo it's the we love to call it, Scott, as you know, the new never normal.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd so what did we add just the last ten plus days?
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CWell, we added now additional shipping and constraints around Latin America, Right, for the movement of goods and freight and services and how you run your operations because of what's occurred not only in Venezuela, but what we also potentially have potentially unfolding in other geopolitical areas.
Speaker CSo unfortunately, and we have this pending, as I call it, decision on the existing tariffs that the Supreme Court could potentially rule on this week.
Speaker CAnd I'm going to put Vegas money On the fact that they won't.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker BThey don't want to touch it with a 20 foot pole.
Speaker BIs that what you're suggesting, Jake?
Speaker CIf you go back and take a look at the Supreme Court rulings against sitting presidents in the first, you know, in the first year, first full year of the term, you see, they delay them like the plague in order to give some boundary width right.
Speaker CTo stabilizing new policies, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker CBut this one unfortunately is having a knock on effect.
Speaker CThe longer we delay this, the more instability there is there.
Speaker CAnd it's a punishing effect around how you're running business operations.
Speaker CI can't tell you.
Speaker CLiterally, I talked to dozens of company executives a week who are all literally bleeding money at the moment because they're caught in a catch 22 of wait a minute, I can't carry this anymore, I can't eat it.
Speaker CI have to recover it from a cost recovery standpoint and pricing.
Speaker CAnd so we've got just a massive economic factors that are really swirling in the heads.
Speaker CAnd then, you know, Scott, we've got to make simple decisions, which is, where am I going to make something, where am I going to source something, how am I going to put it together and how am I going to get it to market?
Speaker CIt's a dog's breakfast of issues right now for those that are running the C suites.
Speaker BI feel like I have just traipsed through the minds of CSGOs everywhere.
Speaker BBut I've also learned a new phrase, a dog's breakfast.
Speaker BThat doesn't sound too tasty, Jake.
Speaker CIt isn't at the moment, that's for sure.
Speaker BAll right, folks, stick around.
Speaker BWe're going to dive in a little bit more into the what might be a pending Supreme Court decision, very consequential decision this coming Wednesday morning.
Speaker BSo stick around.
Speaker BAll right, so let's do one more thing, Jake, before we bring on our outstanding guests here today.
Speaker BAnd this is very timely, folks.
Speaker BWe invite you to join us in Las Vegas for manifest 2026.
Speaker BWe had a great time last year.
Speaker BIn fact, Jake's going to be with us this year.
Speaker BWe're going to be panel discussions, networking, putting our finger on the pulse for market intel, interviewing folks from across the globe.
Speaker BBut folks, time is running out.
Speaker BIn less than a month, Manifest is going to bring 7,200 attendees, 400 plus speakers and 175 plus sessions to Las Vegas.
Speaker BYou can lock in your spot alongside industry leaders before prices increase.
Speaker BFriday, January 23rd.
Speaker BThat's just around the corner.
Speaker BLess than two weeks away.
Speaker BAnd if you register before then, you're gonna save 700 bucks off the retail rate.
Speaker BWe're dropping a link right there because Tricia doesn't miss the beat ever.
Speaker BClick that link and you can register easily and take advantage of the discount.
Speaker CIf you're really wanting to get insights and intel about what your peer group across verticals are doing in the area of physical distrib.
Speaker CThis is it.
Speaker BThis is it.
Speaker BThis is it.
Speaker BI think that was a tour at some point, a musical tour at some point.
Speaker BBut nevertheless, folks, we'll see you in Vegas at Manifest.
Speaker BWhich brings me.
Speaker BJake brings both of us and all of our great SCM Global fan members out there to our guest segment here on the Buzz.
Speaker BSpeaking of Manifest, we're delighted to bring on a friend and special guest here on the Buzz.
Speaker BPowered by EPG Tanzil Uden is Senior Vice President, Content and Partnership at Manifest.
Speaker BNow in this role he spearheads content audience development for the event.
Speaker BIn particular, working with.
Speaker BWe were just talking with Jake about senior leaders.
Speaker BOtanza works with CSCOs, COOs and CPOs and other supply chain leadership Personas that take the stage and attend with their teams.
Speaker BAnd prior to the several plates he runs today at Manifest.
Speaker BPrior to Joining manifest in 2021, Tanzil led programming and shipper related efforts for numerous events in the last mile, urban logistics and cold chain spaces, respectively.
Speaker BSo let's welcome in Tanzil Udden with Manifest.
Speaker BHey.
Speaker BHey Tanzel.
Speaker BHow you doing today?
Speaker DHello, Scott.
Speaker DHello, Jake.
Speaker DI'm doing well.
Speaker BI am so glad you could take a quick break.
Speaker BJake.
Speaker BHe's got a.
Speaker BHe's moving fast right now, right?
Speaker BIt's game time.
Speaker BIt's go time.
Speaker COh, it's go time.
Speaker CIn fact, he's got a new baby.
Speaker CI'm wanting to figure out whether he's actually going to strap the baby to his chest and be a first time participant at Manifest.
Speaker BI'm with you.
Speaker BHey, I'll be taking snapshots at Tanza, so we shall see.
Speaker BAnd kidding aside, happy birthday to Zayed.
Speaker BIs that right, Ziad?
Speaker DYes.
Speaker DZiad turns one this week.
Speaker BMy apologies, Ziad.
Speaker BOne years old this week.
Speaker BThat's awesome.
Speaker BHey, really quick before we dive into the news and we're.
Speaker BAnd folks, we had a lot of news coming at you today.
Speaker BA lot of perspective today.
Speaker BStart with a fun warmup question.
Speaker BTanzel and Jake.
Speaker BSo did you know on this day back, January 12th is today.
Speaker BIt's hard to believe we're already there.
Speaker BBack in 1970 the original jumbo jet, the Boeing 747, made its maiden flight.
Speaker BNow, in case you didn't know, the 747 was the first widebody airliner.
Speaker BIt was the first to use the twin aisle layout and it was also the first to use high bypass turbofan engines.
Speaker BNow, the final Boeing 747 was delivered in 2023 and over 400 are still in service, with most of those of course, being freighters.
Speaker BSo, folks, we always try to equip you to win trivia contests all around the world.
Speaker BSo with all that as a backdrop, Tangel, I gotta ask you and Jake on your longer global flights, as you're out there shaking hands and collaborating with all the industry leaders to get there though, do you sleep?
Speaker BDo you work, do you read, do you drink?
Speaker BWhat's part of your routine there, Tansel?
Speaker DWell, I love that question.
Speaker DI am a sucker for routine.
Speaker DTry to keep it as consistent as possible.
Speaker DYeah, I always need a few things.
Speaker DOne of those will be my over the head headphones.
Speaker DI have a hard time sleeping in flights.
Speaker DSo before any long haul flights, I will download some of my favorite shows.
Speaker DFor now, that would be the Office, some episodes of the Office, some episodes, some episodes of Better Call Sal on Netflix.
Speaker DAnd I would just watch them while on flight until I figure out how to fall asleep.
Speaker DBut that's my typical routine.
Speaker DI need some shows that I can watch throughout the entirety of the flight.
Speaker DSo I will do the math of how many episodes will that amount to on any given show.
Speaker BTanzle, I love that.
Speaker BAnd you know, we just, man, and I just finished watching finish watching Better Call Saul because we kind of jumped off too early when we were watching it live.
Speaker BSo Tanza will have to compare notes after the fact.
Speaker BAnd of course, the Office.
Speaker CJake, rule number one of long flights, you must immediately upon entering that airplane put yourself in the time zone of where you're going.
Speaker CSo that automatically means if it's middle of the night, you sleep, you don't have any disturbances, you no food.
Speaker CYou've got to get your body acclimated for making it an easy jumpstart to the new arrival destination.
Speaker BOkay, we are going to get into a series of news stories here today.
Speaker BTanzel and Jake, we're getting everyone to weigh in and then we're also going to dive more into what's to come at the Big Manifest 2026 in Vegas.
Speaker BSo folks, stay tuned but we're going to start with the news.
Speaker BSo our friends at supply chain Dot shared an interesting read recently.
Speaker BI think it was last week focused on five supply chain management trends they recommend us keep front and center on the good old radar this year.
Speaker BNow, the five they cite, and let me get both, you ought to weigh in.
Speaker BNumber one, fragmentation and diversification will be fueled by geopolitical risk, something Jake already touched on.
Speaker BNumber two, supply chains will be tested by many things, especially economic turbulence.
Speaker BNumber three, a top priority for many supply chain leaders, cost optimization.
Speaker BStop me if you heard that one before.
Speaker BNumber four, AI hype what's going to be facing a recalibration of sorts.
Speaker BAnd number five, the supply chain workforce challenges are going to persist, folks.
Speaker BWe've got a great.
Speaker BBy the way, we've got a great manufacturing workforce edition of the Bridge coming up here next week.
Speaker BWe need to drop a link on that.
Speaker BAll right, so those five trends to keep front and center.
Speaker BTansel, your thoughts there?
Speaker DYeah, no, I think this just echoes what the two of you were talking about earlier.
Speaker DThese uncertainties are essentially the new norm for us in today's environment.
Speaker DWhat used to be called black swan is now pretty much, it feels like it's a daily thing in the supply chain.
Speaker DAnd I think I've talked about this before in previous conversations where decisions just feel extremely heavy right now in the supply chain.
Speaker DWhat I get from this article in particular is that it's more so about strategic action that will outweigh reactions.
Speaker DCan we actually anticipate inflection points and act quickly?
Speaker DAnd I think that will help certain organizations outperform.
Speaker D2026 is perhaps about turning some, some lessons from recent volatilities or ongoing volatilities into strategic resilience.
Speaker DAnd it's not just about adopting new tools, but how do you pair them with smart cost management and workforce upscaling will be the key.
Speaker BTanzel, I like you're very poetic with that perspective.
Speaker BAnd Johnny, on the spot.
Speaker BJake, what would you add when it comes to these trends or others?
Speaker CYeah, there's no question there.
Speaker CThere's really a big push on.
Speaker CI'll call it not only the squeeze of more productivity out of the existing organization, but actually reskilling the talent that you have as part of your transformation efforts.
Speaker COn top of that, folks are advancing their automation efforts.
Speaker CAnd it's merely, I'll call it a layering effect of saying, hey, I've held off on potentially doing a piece of automation, et cetera, here or there, but I'm actually leaning into it now because it's helping with me provide a level of additional agility for how I'm able to deal with these routine, you know, unfortunately, they're not black swans anymore, as tans will know.
Speaker CYou've got ugly ducklings running, running around everywhere.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker BOh, man, I'm sorry.
Speaker BA dog's breakfast still comes back to my mind.
Speaker BI'm a steal that one from you, Jake.
Speaker BUgly buck ducklings, dogs, breakfast, you name it.
Speaker BIt's gonna be a tough year.
Speaker BBut you know, as we were talking last week, I think we were prepping for an event.
Speaker BWe were comparing all the predictions that are out there, tans on Jake this time of year.
Speaker BAnd one article played it really safe with its predictions, right?
Speaker BAnd I made the comment, hey, but that's okay.
Speaker BI'd love a vanilla boring 20, 26.
Speaker BThat'd be a wonderful thing.
Speaker CBut then it's not happening, Scott.
Speaker BI realized that.
Speaker BI realized that.
Speaker BBut let me finish.
Speaker BLet me finish.
Speaker BBut my dear friend Mark, Mark Gillum, who joined us, he said if that's the case, though, no one has any excuses, right?
Speaker BIf they, if this, all this disruption is not taking place.
Speaker BSo we shall see.
Speaker BWe shall see.
Speaker BHey, let's do this.
Speaker BWorkforce was one of the big trends.
Speaker BTanzle and Jake both spoke to it.
Speaker BIt was one of the five in the article, folks.
Speaker BTrisha and Amanda will drop a link in the chat, but on January 23rd, Allison Giddens, a manufacturing leader here in the Atlanta area, is joining me and and Daryl Edwards to dive into building the new manufacturing workforce.
Speaker BYou're not going to want to miss that.
Speaker B12 noon on January 23rd.
Speaker BLet's see.
Speaker BWe're going to move fast now.
Speaker BWe're going to get to everybody's favorite topic or maybe not so favorite topic.
Speaker BYeah, tariffs.
Speaker BI can't wait till the day comes when I don't have to talk about tariffs every day.
Speaker BA lot of folks are watching as we've mentioned the Supreme Court who may decide on the legality of the Trump administration tariffs.
Speaker BOn Wednesday, as reported here by cnbc, the high court pushed a potential tariff decision from Friday a lot of folks were watching last Friday to this Wednesday, January 14th.
Speaker BAnd if the court rules that the tariffs enacted last year are largely illegal, the markets will likely rejoice.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BMany, a lot of us may have parties and rejoice, too, but there's quite a mess to clean up as tons and tons of tariff payments will then have to be refunded.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BHowever, some legal analysts say that the White House may find a different path, alternative path to maintaining and enforcing the tariffs in place no matter what the high court decides.
Speaker BSo Tanzel I can't wait to get you to weigh in on this possibly very consequential week.
Speaker DI'm going to be careful about this one.
Speaker DI appreciated Jake just sharing his thoughts on, you know, where he put his Vegas money.
Speaker DIt just speaks to the amount of uncertainties that we are having to deal with in today's environment.
Speaker DBut what I learned and what I've heard from especially a lot of the leaders that are coming to our event next month, it seems as though the smartest supply chain leader, if you made they're not waiting, they're planning for both outcomes because like you said, there might be other alternatives that the administration can consider to keep these in effect.
Speaker DSo you control the controllables is what I like to say.
Speaker DYou plan for both outcomes wherever you can.
Speaker DSo that could mean you run dual cost scenarios or you strengthen contract visibility or you diversify your sourcing incrementally.
Speaker DBut those are the things that you can try to control and get ahead of it.
Speaker DBut I think what I've seen is the leaders are actually planning for both outcomes versus just waiting because you already have enough on your plate in terms of things that you cannot control.
Speaker BTanzo, well said.
Speaker BAnd Jake, if you're leading your supply chains with spreadsheets, oh boy, you might be in trouble.
Speaker BYour thoughts though, Jake?
Speaker CIt's fool's gold.
Speaker CIf you're expecting the ruling to come and reverse everything, it's going to be a mixed bag of some things will be reversed, some things won't.
Speaker CThere'll be layering on top of those that are reversed.
Speaker CAs Tanzel said, look, in today's age, you've actually got to be running literally 10, 12, 15 different scenarios, not only on sourcing, but also on distribution planning and network fulfillment modeling.
Speaker CSo you know, we got into the piece earlier, Scott, about, well, wait a minute, UPS's model is changing now because they lost part of the Amazon piece.
Speaker CGuess what?
Speaker CThat is also new normal, right?
Speaker CSo the way you break and assemble networks, the way you break and assemble supply relationships is going to continue to be very, very dynamic.
Speaker DYep.
Speaker BWell said, Jake and Tanza.
Speaker BSo we shall see.
Speaker BWe'll see.
Speaker BBack to your earlier point, Jake.
Speaker BWe'll see if the Supreme Court even issues a decision on Wednesday.
Speaker BBut nevertheless.
Speaker BAll right, so let's move from Hang on a sec before we move a couple things here.
Speaker BBy the way, we're dropping the links these articles right here in the chat.
Speaker BSo folks, don't necessarily take our word for it and our take on it.
Speaker BGo check it out.
Speaker BThank you, Tricia, it's dropped the one on the tariffs right there.
Speaker BAnd Geno Pledger, the pride of North Alabama.
Speaker BHope you're doing well, Gino.
Speaker BAnd a rock and roll drummer by the way, which I'm going to have to take in a concert at some point soon.
Speaker BAll right, so from Tariffs to Nuclear Power the New Age of Nuclear Power.
Speaker BI love this.
Speaker BThis might be a brighter topic to talk about.
Speaker BSo we've spoken at length over the last year or so about the big time spikes in energy demands fueled in part by by data centers and AI innovation and usage and a whole bunch more.
Speaker BOne energy opportunity I'm a bit bullish about though.
Speaker BA new chapter of nuclear energy as reported by our friends here at Reuters, the United Kingdom government has chosen a site in North Wales for its first Rolls Royce small modular reactors, aka SMRs, where they're planning three units for space up to eight and they're targeting first power in mid the mid-2030s.
Speaker BThat's less than 10 years away folks.
Speaker BYou're going to hear SMRS talked about a lot more small modular reactors.
Speaker BSome folks have talked about how companies are looking at placing an SMR on site powering some of the data centers.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThis project though here is part of the UK's strategy to boost nuclear capacity from about 6.5 gigawatts today to as much as 24 gigawatts by 2050 and to establish a fleet based SMR deployment model.
Speaker BOfficials and industry partners said the SMR program could kickstart a broader European nuclear supply chain with international collaboration on components and manufacturing across the EU and beyond.
Speaker BBut plenty of challenges remain, including securing of course regulatory approvals and scaling supply chains that can effectively support SMR infrastructure.
Speaker BSo Tanzil, I am really shooting above my pay grade talking about nuclear energy, but I do find it fascinating in terms of the role combined with green energy and many others, of how it can help us meet spiking energy demand.
Speaker BYour thoughts?
Speaker DTanzel yeah, thanks Scott.
Speaker DWhat I found interesting when I read this is that Europe and UK are treating SMRs as a supply chain strategy.
Speaker DThey are explicitly trying to standardize this.
Speaker DWhile if I speak to the U.S. we have incredible innovation, but there's just more fragmentation which makes things certain, which makes certain things harder to scale sustainably.
Speaker DSo I think it would be a good use case to see how this continues to develop.
Speaker DLike you said over the next year or so.
Speaker DAnd on the side just other initial thoughts I have is just behind closed doors.
Speaker DI wonder, I ask, you know, can this lower scope to emissions, for example, without increasing cost volatility, does it support 247 daily operations, whether it be at a factory level, DCs, the pharma cold chain, which are things we're really interested in at Manifest.
Speaker DSo that's going to be interesting again behind closed doors as you hear from different supply chain leaders.
Speaker BTanz, I'm with you.
Speaker BIt's a fascinating time.
Speaker BJake, what would you add?
Speaker CWe need all and more Scott.
Speaker CThere's not enough.
Speaker CIn fact, the SMR strategy I I'm with Tanzle as typical European is leading the way around how to think about the format in a more structured and quick scalable environment.
Speaker CBut unfortunately, when you look at when those are coming online, that's well past the timeline for even the current, I'll call it doomsday effect of what we have of the data centers that are already being constructed, the AI centers, et cetera.
Speaker CWe're outstripping the grids.
Speaker CIt doesn't matter which content you're talking about more than we're able to generate.
Speaker CAnd so we need it.
Speaker CWe need all of it, right?
Speaker CWe need the entire recipe, the menu, walking into the restaurant.
Speaker CWe need wind, solar, you know, fossil fuel, nuclear.
Speaker CWe need it all.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker BWell said.
Speaker BAnd folks, you're going to be hearing a lot more about energy in the months ahead, if you haven't heard already.
Speaker BIn fact, one of my favorite going back to the prediction blogs and all that come out this time of year, one of my favorite ones mentioned that, hey, we can't take energy for granted when it comes to planning our network infrastructure and the like.
Speaker BAnd I find that to be very astute.
Speaker BOkay, Jake and Tanzel, next up, we're going to be talking a little bit more about Human Trafficking Prevention Month.
Speaker BBut before we do, I mentioned a great addition of the bridge coming up.
Speaker BJanuary 23rd, folks.
Speaker BTricia has dropped a link to that show right there in the comments.
Speaker BThat's the one that's going to be diving into the notion of building a better manufacturing workforce.
Speaker BSo come join us.
Speaker BAll right, so some folks are referring to January as National Human Trafficking Awareness Month.
Speaker BOthers are going to be talking about Human Trafficking Prevention Month.
Speaker BI think in layman's terms it's no more and do more month when it comes to Human trafficking here in January.
Speaker BAnd really year round.
Speaker BAnd the year round part is important as referenced by this great article here.
Speaker BBut before we get to what Inland Kenworth is doing, let me share a couple of nuggets which you're going to find.
Speaker BWith that said our newsletter earlier.
Speaker BSo again, human trafficking is no small problem.
Speaker BTens of impacts, tens of millions of people worldwide.
Speaker BAn estimated 27.6 million people globally are victims of trafficking and forced labor.
Speaker BThat is remarkable.
Speaker BBroader modern slavery estimates, including forced marriage, push that figure closer to 50 million people worldwide.
Speaker BAnd sadly, roughly 25% of victims are children, underscoring the extreme vulnerability of miners.
Speaker BBut there is good news because you got great industry leaders such as this 76 year old truck dealership, Inland Kenworth.
Speaker BMy apologies.
Speaker BAs reported by Trucker News, they've got 43 locations in California and throughout the Southwest.
Speaker BGreat vehicle for helping to drive awareness, right?
Speaker BWell, they have made human trafficking awareness a year round priority.
Speaker BSince 2016, Inland Kenworth has invested in the fight against human trafficking a number of ways from wrapping their trucks like this one right here, including the trafficking hotline number folks to use if they see something, you know the old adage, you see something, you say something.
Speaker BWell, there's a hotline, right?
Speaker BThey train their employees on how to spot human trafficking and better yet, what to do about it.
Speaker BAnd they put their money where their mouth is.
Speaker BThey've raised more than $500,000 for the nonprofit TAT, formerly Truckers Against Trafficking.
Speaker BThat is what I like to call action based leadership.
Speaker BTansel.
Speaker BNow I like to say we gotta know more about it and know that things exist before we can get to elimination and prevention.
Speaker BBut your thoughts?
Speaker BTansel?
Speaker DYeah, no, I really appreciate what Inland Kenworth is doing here.
Speaker DAnd if I look at just our industry in particular, this also just shows that logistics isn't just about moving goods.
Speaker DIt is also a key channel.
Speaker DOr it can be a key channel for safeguarding human rights and embedding some of these ethical vigilance and efforts into daily operations.
Speaker DI also love that the supply chain professional is being mobilized here, especially those frontline workers like a driver into acting as defenders against human trafficking.
Speaker DSo I think that's very refreshing to see and witness.
Speaker BTanz.
Speaker BThat's a great call out because of the really supply chain professionals are in a very unique position to do something about human trafficking in so many different ways, especially our transportation professionals.
Speaker BJake, your thoughts on human trafficking prevention?
Speaker CIt all starts with awareness.
Speaker COur job is to make people aware that it exists and help them, educate them.
Speaker CWhat are the signs they can look for.
Speaker CYou know, see something, say something is really vital.
Speaker CBut from a supply chain profession standpoint, at its very essence, we're at the core of this.
Speaker CIt's undeniable because look, we move everything around the world.
Speaker CIf this is going to exist, people are going to be moved.
Speaker CSo we're at the heart of it.
Speaker BThat's right, Jake.
Speaker BSo, folks, I invite you to check out, we need more inland Kenworths, I think in industry.
Speaker BLove the commitment they're making and give it a read over at Truckers News.
Speaker BAnd by the way, if you admire what they're doing, let them know, number one.
Speaker BNumber two, find a way that your own company can embrace the fight against human trafficking not just in January, but year round.
Speaker BSo, Jake and Tanzel.
Speaker BTanzel, we're about to take a deeper dive into all that you've got under the hood for manifest 2026.
Speaker BBut before we do that, Jake, you know we like sharing resources around here.
Speaker BAnd you and I were part of a terrific event that we now are offering On Demand that we created in conjunction with our friends at epg, of course, who are powering the buzz all month long in January, folks, check this out.
Speaker BMe and John Wayne, the global supply chain, that's Jake Barr.
Speaker BThoroughly enjoyed this very actionable case study on a webinar.
Speaker BJust last month we dialed in on outdoor caps implementation of voice picking in their warehouse.
Speaker BAnd it's changed the game for their operations and for their customers.
Speaker BThat's my favorite part.
Speaker BI'm talking about an almost 60% improvement on overall quality, which was already high, and a 15% productivity jump, which was almost double what they were expecting.
Speaker BEven better, it's going to help fuel more successful growth and expansion in the months ahead.
Speaker BWe invite you to check out the on demand recording and learn more about how EPG can impact your own supply chain organization.
Speaker BJake, quick question.
Speaker BI loved you.
Speaker BCame out with a nickname for our friend, Peel Chronister right there with Outdoor Cap.
Speaker BWas it King of Hats, I think, Jake.
Speaker CKing of Hats.
Speaker BI love that, folks.
Speaker CBut Scott, but you know, it's a, it ties directly to what we've been talking about today.
Speaker CThey are an example of, wait a minute.
Speaker CI got all the chaos around me.
Speaker CI'm not sitting and waiting for it to just drop on my head.
Speaker CI'm actually going to lean into change and drive additional, you know, agility into what I can do in my lineup.
Speaker CAnd it's giving them a business itch.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker BIt's so true.
Speaker BAnd you know, it's going to, it's going to be the gift that keeps on giving.
Speaker BKind of like the agility of the month club from Christmas vacation, right?
Speaker BIt's going to give and give again, be a force multiplier so, folks, check out, don't take Jake's word for it or mine.
Speaker BTrisha has dropped a link to that On Demand recording.
Speaker BCheck it out, Let us know what you think.
Speaker BAll right, Tanzel.
Speaker BMan, I cannot wait till Vegas and Manifest in February.
Speaker BWe're less than, what, four weeks away, me and Jake and the rest of our team.
Speaker BSome members of our team will be back there in Vegas participating in panel discussions, leading a great one.
Speaker BWe've got this one coming up.
Speaker BThe marriage between supply chain and technology.
Speaker BWhat's optimizing our decision making with our friends from Philips, Revolve and FabFitFun.
Speaker BSo come check that out.
Speaker BWe're doing some interviewing.
Speaker BTanza.
Speaker BWe had a lot of great interviews last week.
Speaker BReally appreciate you, Courtney, Pam, and the whole team and how y' all facilitate those relationships.
Speaker BBut here's where I want to.
Speaker BAs we get ready to do all that and then some again, really excited about it.
Speaker BI want to ask you, Tanzel, this might be asking, kind of like for your favorite kid, right?
Speaker BIt's tough because y' all got a bunch of new stuff for 2026, but what's a couple of updates for Manifest you're most excited about, Tanzel?
Speaker DYeah, absolutely.
Speaker DThank you, Scott.
Speaker DI like to focus on a lot of the things that are new for this year's Manifest.
Speaker DVery excited to just be less than four weeks.
Speaker DOf course, we've added quite a few, a couple of new segments.
Speaker DAnd this is just by demand, really.
Speaker DOur community has asked for it.
Speaker DOne of them being there is an entire stage, for example, dedicated to procurement.
Speaker DWe've evolved over the years to become this show that encompasses really the full ecosystem across plan, source, make and deliver.
Speaker DAnd reflecting our discussion today, procurement really is at top of mind for so many planning and procurement specifically.
Speaker DAnd so we're excited to have a lot of your chief procurement officers, your supply chain leadership, your technology leaders, all sit at the table, figuratively at our event to discuss some of the key issues that hit at home for them, especially given all the stuff that is looming around the industry today.
Speaker DThat's one of them for sure.
Speaker DAnother area is Cold Chain.
Speaker DThere is an entire pavilion that is dedicated to this industry.
Speaker DLooking at life sciences, looking at food and beverage, looking at perishables, what's happening especially as climate change, you know, change becomes so top of mind for us all.
Speaker DWe're excited to have an area that is dedicated to not just bringing the leaders that are, you know, operating this day to day, but also the technologies that you otherwise would not have Known existed until you came to an event like Manifest and experienced it yourself.
Speaker BTanzel Outstanding.
Speaker BAnd I.
Speaker BAnd you saw Jake.
Speaker BJake, I like you how you applauded Cold chain.
Speaker BCold Chain is fascinating.
Speaker BI love that.
Speaker BFocus your thoughts on what you hear there from Tanzel and what you're looking forward to at Manifest.
Speaker BJake.
Speaker CWell, I'm especially thrilled by the Cold Chain piece.
Speaker CI mean, Scott, we were talking a bit earlier about the food waste situation, right?
Speaker CBut look, I've had the opportunity to work, especially recently on projects.
Speaker CLook, it's a convergence of how to use AI to not only do the old school call it temperature monitoring and track, but actually to do predictive and prescriptive actions back in the supply chain processes to actually prevent the spoilage, to arrange for replacements, to ensure customer and consumer satisfaction in terms of the movement of the goods or the materials.
Speaker CI mean, I had a company that I literally worked with about two and a half months ago with one of these firms in question, where we were putting, from the time we put the ingredients together in the lab, it was a rare disease medication, to the time it needed to be in the arm in a clinic of a patient.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CFor their treatment.
Speaker CSix days of shelf life, guys.
Speaker CSix days, right?
Speaker CSo you can't, it's not your grandmother's supply chain.
Speaker CYou, you must have just incredible control.
Speaker CNot only control, but then the added AI on top of it to be able to allow you to manage that flow and predict whether it's going to be good or not.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BNot a whole bunch of wiggle room.
Speaker BTanzel.
Speaker BLove the emphasis.
Speaker BI can't wait to sit in on some of those sessions and meet some of the leaders and the networking and sidebar conversations.
Speaker BBefore we dive a little deeper into your passion for creating compelling content, I want to call out one more time, folks.
Speaker BYou can register before January 23rd and still take advantage of some discounted rates.
Speaker BAnd Trisha has dropped a link right there in the comments to do just that.
Speaker BAnd Tanzel, folks can't delay.
Speaker BThey got to move, huh?
Speaker DNope.
Speaker DYes, they do.
Speaker DYes, indeed.
Speaker DLess than four weeks, Runblock is selling out.
Speaker DIt's all exciting.
Speaker BOutstanding.
Speaker BThat's at the Venetian, folks, in Vegas.
Speaker BAnd as I heard someone, a really good person, telling me one time, when you do events at the Venetian, you know you have made it.
Speaker BIt's like you're Elvis when you're doing events at the Venetian.
Speaker BAll right, so Tanzel, love the, you know, core to any successful event, of course, beyond the people, but it's the content and the discussions and the topics and how folks can be informed and educated and entertained.
Speaker BAnd you really, as, as I've been observing you lurking and sneaking and seeing what you've been up to, you're a maestro when it comes to creating content and panel discussions and the like.
Speaker BWhere does your passion for creating this stuff come from?
Speaker DTansel I love that question.
Speaker DWe I really love content that tells a story, just like Manifest tells the story about bringing innovation at the forefront, bringing an ecosystem together under one roof to just benchmark, bring peers together to rub shoulders, talk about what's happening.
Speaker DWell, that's reflected on our panels as well.
Speaker DAre we bringing an ecosystem perspective to every single discussion that is happening, whether it's plan or source or make or deliver and all of the branches that stem out of those key themes?
Speaker DAre we accounting for the different perspectives that need to be at the table to really drive some of this forward?
Speaker DAnd as a result, are there some takeaways that our attendees can go back to the office with immediate action in the next week or month, not just the next year or years.
Speaker DAnd you kind of approach every session or conversation with that lens or from that lens.
Speaker DChances are it bodes well for the people that are in the room.
Speaker DSo yeah, I really love being able to tell a story.
Speaker DYou're covering every aspect of the journey and supply chain and you're ensuring that you're giving a chance to every perspective, whether it be that operator, that technology leader, even if they're seed early stage, we want to give them that voice.
Speaker DAnd similarly for the investors that contribute to a lot of our discussions as well.
Speaker DSo you kind of hit it from operator, innovation and funding, all of the above when it comes to most of the discussions that are happening at the event.
Speaker BTangel.
Speaker BLove it.
Speaker BSo Jake, I knew we were going to have a lot in common with Tanzel here, even though he's a Heat fan, which we can deal with the Miami Heat later.
Speaker BBut you know, two of his big points he shared there, amongst other things I can definitely relate to because we try to bake it into the content we produce here.
Speaker BOne thing he mentioned is how content drives action, right?
Speaker BSolutions, outcomes.
Speaker BAnd number two, he mentioned diversity.
Speaker BAnd you look at all the data driven studies out there, how the power of diversity can impact top lines, bottom lines and all points in between.
Speaker BWhat'd you hear there, Jake, that really resonates with you?
Speaker CWell, I mean, Tanzel and his team do a great job of bringing together diverse group of stories because honestly, if you're a supply chain leader, the best Thing you can do is look outside your four walls for ideas.
Speaker CIt isn't that you don't have ideas in your four walls, but in many times, if that's the only place you're looking, what you miss is context of what might be a bigger opportunity.
Speaker CSo when you get the opportunity to go through and listen from these other individuals outside your vertical, outside your experience, it just rewires your brain to think differently about pursuit against a problem.
Speaker BWe all need to rewire our brains from time to time, sometimes day to day is what I've found.
Speaker BTanzo, I want to again pull up the panel I'm a part of.
Speaker BThanks to you and your great work because I love this theme.
Speaker BI love the participants.
Speaker BI've really enjoyed this cause we've had this far with them.
Speaker BBut the theme, Jake, the marriage between supply chain and technology.
Speaker BWhat's optimizing our decision making?
Speaker BThere's some marriages out there to continue this analogy that aren't as long standing and productive and fruitful.
Speaker BAnd there's others because leaders really invest in this marriage and invest in their team's abilities to make faster, better, more confident decisions.
Speaker BAnd they're going to be celebrating 100 year anniversaries.
Speaker BMaybe Jake, your quick comment on maybe this theme and then Tanzan will circle back around to maybe the origin story really quick in a nutshell of where this came from.
Speaker BJake, your thoughts on the theme?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CThe reality, Scott, is this is a piece that you could talk about every week, every month, every year for the next ten plus years moving forward.
Speaker CBecause we are in deep in the age of using AI for the first legs of being able to solve problems.
Speaker CAnd the reality is in a new period of never normal, our problems are constantly changing.
Speaker CThe constraints around them, the issues, the evaluations that we need to do.
Speaker CSo even using AI, it is going to be this sweet marriage of people and technology to actually drive us forward because the models can only learn what we help teach them to learn.
Speaker CYou have to provide that human element to make it deliver for you.
Speaker DOh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker DThis is just one of those discussions, right that we were talking about earlier and I shared it just decisions feel really heavy today and in today's supply chain and to Jake's point that there is a, you know, a new norm of, of, of uncertainty that we're experiencing.
Speaker DSo that that marriage is key of, of tools and talent which Jake already covered.
Speaker DIt's, it's.
Speaker DAnd also just getting into the minds of some of these operators that are on stage with you, Scott, of this is what we're doing across our organization, our talent, and this is how we're leveraging AI, how we're feeding data into it to ensure it's long term, stable success.
Speaker DAnd we're definitely excited to hear some of the outcomes or takeaways from a conversation like this one.
Speaker BMe too, Tanz.
Speaker BI get a certification, maybe even a two year degree out of each of these sessions that I participate in.
Speaker BSo really appreciate the opportunity and how you.
Speaker BI'm still.
Speaker BWhat you and Jake both talked about this theme.
Speaker BYou've already given me a few notes.
Speaker BBut folks, be a part of this panel at Manifest.
Speaker BCome join us.
Speaker BJulie and Heather and Burger, I'll tell you, they're going to bring it.
Speaker BYou're going to only find this at manifest 2026.
Speaker BAnd the time to register is now.
Speaker BIt's February 9th through the 11th.
Speaker BGosh, it's less than a month away.
Speaker BAnd if you Register before the 23rd Again, you'll have some discounted registration fees.
Speaker BBy the way, Tanzel, what's the easiest place?
Speaker BI know Tricia is dropping a link right here.
Speaker BIt's really easy.
Speaker BYou're one click away, folks.
Speaker BBut is there anything else that you would suggest in terms of registering or engaging with the Manifest ecosystem?
Speaker DYeah, this is the critical time for us.
Speaker DThe.
Speaker DThe app will also go live this week, so emails will start going out to all of those that are registered to set up their profiles and start networking.
Speaker DSo for those that are not registered, we definitely urge you to do so so that you can get in early start networking.
Speaker DThis is when people start coordinating all of their meetings really ahead of the start date of February 9th.
Speaker DSo we're really excited about that.
Speaker DCheck out the website.
Speaker DPlan ahead.
Speaker DI mentioned registering in the app, but you can also browse the full agenda, which is already live session times, including this one, Scott, that you're leading, you can just kind of map out your agenda within an agenda, if you may really develop your entire experience ahead of time and then also leave some room for just serendipitous engagement while you were there.
Speaker DSo you want to get in early, get into that app and start networking now.
Speaker BThere are lots of pro tips there.
Speaker BLots of pro tips.
Speaker CAll right.
Speaker BAnd folks, you get to meet Jake Barr, the Hall of Famer, in person.
Speaker BJake, you're gonna.
Speaker BAre you.
Speaker BSo there's usually there's two parties here and Tanzil, I'm gonna say this very diplomatically because a lot of times event apps are kind of like black licorice or they're like The Dallas Cowboys folks love them or they hate them is what I have found.
Speaker BSo, Jake, if folks want to come out and meet the John Wynn global supply chain at Manifest, what would be your suggestion to them, Jake?
Speaker CJust drop me a Note in the LinkedIn.
Speaker CThat's the easiest way.
Speaker CI would have said my phone, but my phone was always blowing up.
Speaker CSo that's a bad thing.
Speaker BAnd we're going to make sure folks know how to connect with Tanzil as well in just a minute.
Speaker BAll right, so again folks, Tricia's dropping the links there.
Speaker BTanzil, before we leave, the topic of manifest 2026.
Speaker BBy the way, when are you getting.
Speaker BIf you can tell me, when are you arriving in Vegas?
Speaker BWhat few days before I assume my.
Speaker DSome members of the team are there.
Speaker DA few days before I get in.
Speaker DEarly Sunday the 8th.
Speaker BOkay, and if folks want to get together with you to talk supply chain or to talk and debate the Miami Heat and their performance this year, they may be Atlanta Hawks fans like myself.
Speaker CThere are none.
Speaker CBut that's okay.
Speaker DI agree.
Speaker BOh, man.
Speaker BHey, don't sleep on the newly rebuilt Hawks.
Speaker CWe, we.
Speaker BHey, we hate to see Trey Young go.
Speaker BBut folks, get ready.
Speaker BIt's new era driven by a new general manager.
Speaker BWe'll see.
Speaker BBut Tanz, I'm gonna go ahead before we.
Speaker BSince we're talking about it.
Speaker BHow can folks connect with you, Tanza?
Speaker BWhat's the easiest way?
Speaker DI'd say LinkedIn as well.
Speaker DDrop me a note on LinkedIn and we can definitely find each other on site if you're planning to be there at Vegas.
Speaker BOkay, outstanding.
Speaker BWell, thank you, Tricia.
Speaker BDropping all you have to look for.
Speaker CYou'll find Tanzel on the floor with a baby strapped to the front.
Speaker CHe's going to be easy to pick out.
Speaker BHey, I'm looking for you.
Speaker BTanza.
Speaker BI'm looking for you.
Speaker BBut hey, the event is even bigger than it was last year.
Speaker BSo it's going to be tougher and tougher.
Speaker BWe're going to have to be more deliberate about finding people this year.
Speaker BAll right, so before we wrap here, the.
Speaker BWhat is this?
Speaker BThe second edition of the Buzz for 2026, powered by our friends at EPG.
Speaker BJake, we are still celebrating the new website.
Speaker BThere's still a relatively new website@supplychainnow.com and folks, it was purpose built to make it more convenient and impactful for you.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BWe just talked about a minute ago our Manifest programming.
Speaker BWell, folks, using our website, you're going to be able to go find.
Speaker BI think we did 13 interviews at Manifest last year.
Speaker BAnd you can use our website to go find that or you can go to our YouTube channel.
Speaker BWe've got a sub channel dedicated to Manifest 2025.
Speaker BWe'll have the same thing dedicated for this year.
Speaker BAnd who knows, I might sit down with both Tanzel and Jake.
Speaker BMan, my week will be even better.
Speaker BBut Jake, we also have an upcoming live programming tab.
Speaker BJake, you've mentioned the new Never Normal series, of course, the Bridge, our live streams and webinar.
Speaker BI think we did almost 200 live streams and webinars last year.
Speaker BThat's crazy.
Speaker BBut you're gonna.
Speaker BFolks can find that right here.
Speaker BJake, it can't be much more convenient than that.
Speaker BHuh?
Speaker CIt can't be.
Speaker CIt's a click away.
Speaker BA click away, a click away.
Speaker BOnly wish resolving tariffs were a click away.
Speaker BBut we'll save that till next week.
Speaker BAnd then also folks, you're going to find the Resource Hub.
Speaker BSo this is a written summary of our friend Sean Elliott, Tools Group CEO, which we sat down at Gartner Supply Chain Summit just last month where you're going to find these types of interviews and summaries at the Resource Hub again at the new supply chain now.com drop new.
Speaker BIt's a new site supply chain now dot com.
Speaker BI don't want to confuse anybody out there.
Speaker COkay, so Scott, before you wrap us, okay, we took a detour past this giant food waste problem that we've got going on around not only the US but the world, right?
Speaker CAnd you know me to be a problem solver, right?
Speaker CSo I'm going to plug.
Speaker CIf you think you can't do anything in your local community that actually makes a significant difference in keeping food out of dumps and helping your local neighbors, look up a firm called Last Milefood.org.
Speaker Cin my opinion it is the gold plated standard for how local individuals put together and use both people.
Speaker CAnd like Tanzel and I have been talking technology to prevent food from going to waste and to actually feed your neighbors.
Speaker BBig, big problem.
Speaker BLastmilefood.org lastmilefood.org I got that right Jake?
Speaker CThat's right.
Speaker BOutstanding, Outstanding.
Speaker BBig problem.
Speaker BWe gotta do, we gotta do, we gotta do.
Speaker BMuch better, Much better.
Speaker BAnd I'd also.
Speaker BTanzan, Jake is a great.
Speaker BI guess we're not a startup anymore, but Goodr G O O D R is an Atlanta based organization doing great work in not just solving the food waste issue but also nourishing those families in need.
Speaker BAnd hey look there we got, we got the link right here last milefood.org so folks, check it out.
Speaker BTanzel Ouden, I'll tell you, I really appreciate your perspective here.
Speaker BI love what you and the team are doing at Manifest providing this opportunity and we need it.
Speaker BIn all the divisiveness and the disruption and the complexity and headaches, we need outstanding in person opportunities not just for content and for thought leadership and for problem solving, but to reconnect on a human basis with our friends and suppliers and customers and collaborators out across industry.
Speaker BAnd Tanzo, I'll tell you, you and the Manifest team have gotten it, really.
Speaker BYou've cracked the code.
Speaker BSo I really appreciate what you do, my friend.
Speaker DLikewise, Scott.
Speaker DThank you so much for having me.
Speaker DPleasure talking to both you and Jake.
Speaker DLooking forward to continuing it next month.
Speaker BUndoubtedly.
Speaker BOn that note, Jake, thank you for joining the buzz once again.
Speaker BOf course.
Speaker BTanzle hit it out of the park, didn't he Jake, huh?
Speaker CHe did.
Speaker CI think he's looking for the side Heat jersey is what he's won.
Speaker DYes sir, we shall see.
Speaker BHey, I hope that Atlanta can assemble one of those super teams like y' all had down in Miami a few years back.
Speaker BBut regardless folks, you can find connect with Tanzel and Jake and myself at Manifest in February.
Speaker BWe also dropped the links if you want to connect in between now and also check out the nonprofits we list as well.
Speaker BBig opportunities to take action.
Speaker BSo as we wrap here today, want to thank my dear friend.
Speaker BI think we're second cousins now.
Speaker BTanza Uden, Senior Vice President, Content and Partnership at Manifest.
Speaker BWant to thank my esteemed hall of fame co host Jake Barr and our friends at EPG who are powering the buzz all month long in January and fueling many global supply chains electric performance in 2026 and beyond.
Speaker BOf course, big thanks to Amanda and Tricia behind the scenes.
Speaker BAnd most importantly, big thanks to our global audience, our SCN global fam for joining us.
Speaker BBut you got homework folks.
Speaker BTanzan, Jake brought it.
Speaker BTake one thing they shared here today.
Speaker BPut it into practice.
Speaker BShare it with your team.
Speaker BDo something with it.
Speaker BDeeds, not words.
Speaker BAnd with all that said, on behalf of the entire supply chain now team Scott Luden Challenge you do good.
Speaker BGive forward.
Speaker BBe the change that's needed.
Speaker BWe'll see you next time right back here on Supply Chain Now.
Speaker BThanks.
Speaker BBye.
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