PJ:

Hey everybody. Welcome back to another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. It's Monday and we're happy to have you here. Thank you for doing this. We're glad to join you in your Bible reading. Yeah. Yeah. Can a privilege actually,

Rod:

yeah. Mondays are a great opportunity to jump into the word and and to jumpstart things because it's hard sometimes to get up on Monday and get after what's in front of us.

PJ:

Dude, lemme just tell you, I started going back to my caffeine habit again. Yeah. On the, in the mornings, and it's changed. Transformative, formative. Yeah. I think I, man, I don't know what I was doing. I was wrong. I, now that I'm back to it. I'm just thinking this is the way life is supposed to be. It's a common grace. It is so good. Man, I just, I, we were talking about Surge and what was the other one? Jolt. Jolt. Those probably had 60 grams of caffeine. I don't know. In fact, let's find out what was the caffeine content of Jolt and Surge? Those were back in the what, two thousands? Yeah. Nineties. I'm gonna guess 150 milligrams. Content of Jolt. Let's do Jolt. Okay. That 'cause that one had they were trying to say we have a lot of caffeine in this. I'm pretty sure these were 12 ounce cans. I know S was, yes. Okay. The caffeine content of Jolt Cola varies on the size of the can. So a 12 ounce can? Normal can, right? Yep. 71 milligrams. Ooh, wow. 71. You don't even, I don't, I think decaf coffee has that much caffeine in it now. Now, yeah. And, okay. What was the other one? Jolt. Jolt. Okay. In search, probably the same amount I would imagine. 51 what? 51 milligrams. That's an irregular caffeine drink today.

Rod:

So just to put that in perspective for everybody, bang right is an energy drink and I don't know how big those cans are. 16 ounce. 16 ounce can of bang has 300 milligrams. That's six cans of surge.

PJ:

Yeah. That's insane. That's why I stick with monsters, which only has 150 milligrams. Bang is on a day where I'm really struggling bang will mess with you. My

Rod:

pre-workout drink has three 50. That's insane. Three 50. That's insane.

PJ:

Oh,

Rod:

I, I remember there was one time I drank a bang back in California before going up to, to preach. In in the bridge in our college ministry. And it was like the first time that I had one you and floating. I, no, I got down and my heart was like, it was like race afterwards. I sat down, afterwards and my wife was next to me and she was like, you're gonna be okay. I was like I have no idea. I think I'm done. Yeah, this could be it, sweetheart.

PJ:

Tachycardia. Yeah, so obviously we drink a lot of caffeine today. We drink a lot of caffeine today. It's a common grace of God. C can you overdo it? Yes. Yes you can. And your body will tell you, interestingly enough, for most people, you'll know when you're having too much, when it actually has the reverse effect, you start getting sleepy and tired. Your body starts saying, this is too much and I can't cooperate with this. Shut down. Or like you, you have heart palpitations. Yeah. And that could be really pretty scary.

Rod:

Yeah, I can. No, for sure. Speaking of heart palpitations, yes, that's an interesting transition. Some of you may be familiar with G three. G three is a church network and it's stepped in, in the void of, together for the gospel, together for the gospel was a conference that was put on every other year and it was held in Louisville, Kentucky. And our church got to go to it. Our sending church got to go to it a few times. It was real sweet, just a time of our church to spend time with other churches. And the whole idea was, as the name would imply, that we're coming together for the common gospel. We're setting aside secondary, tertiary issues and really uniting. Over the primary issue of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. They stopped a couple of years ago, and G three kind of rose to the surface as this replacement conference, though they wouldn't have billed themselves that way, but it was the next one. It was similar to our theological stripe and churches were going to these conferences. It was held in Atlanta, I believe, each year. And it was just a time to get together, to be encouraged, to be built up to, to remind ourselves of what's true. And there was a conference, I think. Couple years ago on the signed gifts and things along these lines. It's a time to teach, but also to fellowship. You may have heard the news recently, if you follow Christian Twitter or the Christian news world out there, that the G three Cons conference that was gonna be held in a few months here has been canceled this year because the head of G three, the president of G three, this guy named Josh Bi has ultimately disqualified himself from ministry and certainly his role with this conference. And you might think. Oh here goes another pastor. A moral failure through, sexual immorality or financial mishandling or whatever. This one's weird. He it was better. I maybe, I guess he, basically what he had done is he had created multiple multiple anonymous social media handles, Twitter handles, things like that. Names, yeah. Blogs, email accounts. And he had used these accounts to attack other Christians. And even Christians within his church, fellow pastors in his church, he had used these fake accounts to question them and to to bring, charges against these men. And and also to for self-serving purposes. And the elders at his church discovered this and confronted him over two years ago initially about this. And he lied and said, no, I didn't do this. And then most recently, what happened within the last couple weeks, they met with him for two hours at one point and pressed him on it and presented the evidence. And he was still saying, no, I didn't do this. I didn't do this until finally they delivered the nail in the coffin. And he admitted to it. He confessed to it. And so they terminated him from his position with G three. He's resigned from the church and they also are canceling this conference. And that's a massive development. Because this conference was, again, still three months out. There were plenty of other speakers that were gonna be there at this conference, and yet they've decided to shutter the whole thing because of its close association with B. Man, this is a weird one. I it's just another reminder, the frailty of our human leaders and the pastoral leaders. And some are out there on the evangelical Twitter world saying, Hey, this is just another sign that we need to put the rest, these national conferences and the, conference writer kind of guy that travels around and speaks at the conferences and they're pointing to Lawson as another example of a guy like that. And I don't know that we need to go that far, but it, it's certainly another reminder of how frail. Our human leaders are the people that we can so often idolize are men at best. And and this is a bad situation for G three, for his church Praise Mill is what the, his church is called. It they're going through it right now. And this is unfortunate for sure.

PJ:

Yeah, we've said this before, but it's worth noting that we ought to be praying for the people that are in leadership positions. We require that. Because as easy as it is for us to throw rocks at Josh and say, man, what are you doing? That's just dumb. I, I don't know when it began for him, but at some point it was just a little thing. It was a small rock in the shoe that just thought, I'm just gonna do this, and I don't think that this is a big deal, or whatever he said, to justify it. The slippery slope of sin starts with one small compromise. And this is where it's so important for all of us to look at someone like him. And granted, you may not even know who he is, we're bringing him up thinking that a few of you might. But we wanna point out to your attention that men have feet of clay. And but for the grace of God, go, I as a saying goes. And you ought to pray for your leaders and ask God to keep us on the straight and narrow living in integrity as we just talked about this weekend with the men. We need to be the men who are willing to confess our sin to. To even before we're put a up fingers put in our chest to be willing to say to our brothers in the Lord or our sisters, if you're a lady, look, here's what I've been struggling with. I'm really wrestling with this, and will you please pray for me? Will you please help me? Will you help me with accountability? Or whatever it is, because we don't want this stuff scares me. I look at that and I say, that could be me. That could be me. Now, I don't look at anyone's sin and say, man, shame on you. You should have done differently. And I guess there's a part of me that says, you. Did you have a different obligation? This is why James three, one says, not many of you should become teachers 'cause you're teaching now and everyone's pulling up screenshots of things that he has said before where he is clearly talking about himself or he's indicting himself with his own preaching. And I get scared about that. I think, man, I don't want that to be my life. I don't want that to be your life. So guard yourself. Keep a close watch on yourself and on the teaching. Persist this for, by so doing, you'll save both yourself and your hearers. That's the warning for all of us. Josh's fall could be our fall if we're not careful.

Rod:

Yeah. Let's get into our text for today, second Samuel 19, 20 and 21. Second Samuel 19. You may recall from a couple days ago David was mourning the death of his son. And Joab gets word of this and Joab is not happy with David's posture. And so you'll look at verse two. It says, so the victory that day was turned into mourning for all the people. For the people who heard the king is grieving for his son. And so Joab comes home and he calls David on this, and this is verses five and six. He says, you've covered with shame. The faces of all your servants who have this day saved your life in the lives of your sons and your daughters, and the lives of your wives, and your concubines. And there's multiple layers here. We mentioned this Joab does not act in an honorable way in the way that he dispatches of Absalom. So there's that. However, there is a measure of truth here for Joab in his confrontation of David in that David's men at risk their life on his behalf and in gone to battle on his behalf. And these were the real. Potential risks involved here when the, they're going to war against each other. In fact, you'll remember David had already been told by his men, Hey, David, you're gonna stay. We don't want you going to battle with us because you're too valuable for us. Absalom's men apparently did not think of him the same way because he was involved in the battle. So this was something that potentially could have happened. And so there's a measure to which I think what job says is right, David, you need to not. Bring shame upon your people for delivering and fighting on your behalf to restore you to the throne, which is what's right and good. However I do think Joab misses the empathy with a father who has lost a son and and David's mourning and grief over Absalom's death here.

PJ:

Yeah I agree with that. I would have a hard time. He's the King Job's, right? Better is open. Rebuke than hidden love. And even though Job may not be the best guy to deliver that news, it's what David needed to hear. He has a responsibility that's greater than just his own sorrow and grief. And certainly no one would hold it against him to grief, but it's just not the right time. There are time and a place, a season perhaps, where it's appropriate for a leader to say, look, I just need time alone to do A, B, C, and D here. David had a responsibility to all the men who just. Gave their lives for his sake. Granted they didn't lose their lives, but they could have, and again, going back to the honor, shame dynamic, he's casting shame upon them because he's celebrating or he's honoring the man that they just killed. For David's sake, this is the same man who basically, he created a coup. He could have destroyed Jerusalem, he could have destroyed everything that David stood for. Da David's heart is broken, and no one would look down upon that. But boy, I think it's inappropriate. He needed job to say that. And I commend Joab for that. Not necessarily for everything else, but he needed to hear this better. Is open rebuke than Hidden Love. Yeah.

Rod:

Then this next section here, as David returns to Jerusalem, he replaces Joab with Ama and Ammas is gonna become his military commander in place of Joab, probably because David is upset with Jo. Mad at Jo for what Joe did with. With his son there. And yet at the same time, we see David's strength of leadership here because David does reunite the people after this brief civil war broken out. And so even though there were people that were saying, I'm following Absalom, David is able to bring people back and even from the rest of the chapter here he demonstrates, he leads by example here because he looks at those that had been. Been some of the leading enemies and people that have personally attacked him, including Shiia and he pardons them. He says, you know what I'm not gonna hold this against you. I'm not gonna execute vengeance anymore. Let's just move on and let's be united together. Even Mephibosheth. And this is the situation here, because Mephibosheth comes forward and has a different story that basically says, look I would've come to you, David, but I couldn't come to you. And David's response here towards Zeba and Mephibosheth was just to divide the land basically. I think David was saying, I don't know for sure who is right and who is wrong but Mephibosheth's response in sec, second Samuel 1930 when he says, oh, let him take it all since you've come home safely. I, that lends me again, to think that I think Mephibosheth was the one that was in the right here, where Zeba was the smarmy guy in all of this. But David is magnanimous in his mercy. In in this middle section of this chapter, but the chapter ends with more fighting. Whether David should reside in perhaps over where that is. David should reside in perhaps the earliest signs of the strain that would be what would lead to the divided monarchy eventually down the road. Some wanting him to reside in the north, others in the south. And the division wasn't gonna happen until after Solomon's era, but you see the seeds being sown here even in chapter 19.

PJ:

Yeah. I think to reaffirm what you were just saying I think Mephibosheth is telling the truth and the reason why it's a strange one in the next book that we're gonna study let's see, Chronicle Kings when we look at Solomon's interaction with the two women who are fighting over the sun, he says let's divide the baby. And the one whose mother it was, says, please don't let her have it. So I think Second Samuel is cluing us into, or hinting at. Clearly Li Mephibosheth is telling the truth here, so I think the author is. Hinting us. Maybe not saying it explicitly, but hinting us that he's the one who's telling the truth.

Rod:

Yeah. Chapter 20, you may remember that the last time we encountered this phrase, there was a worthless man, I believe it was Naval that was Abigail's husband at the time. And you remember that whole situation here. There's another worthless man here who comes to the front, and this one's name is Sheba and he's a Benjamin Knight. Why is that important? That's because that was Saul's line. And so this is the same line of shimmy. This is there's animosity here still between the Benjamin Knights and David, and they basically say, look, you can have David, we have no portion with him. We're gonna go north. We're gonna do our own thing. We're gonna be our own separate kingdom here. And David says, yeah, no you're not. And so David dispatched a AMAs. 'cause remember, AMAA had been made the military commander there, along with Joab and Abishai and the Army to quell the rebellion before it could do all the harm that Absaloms had. Joab. Along with his brother Abishai, who's on his side, clearly decides AMAs is not gonna hold this position anymore. Joab murders, AMAs again, Joab does not finish strong in his his service here and effectively takes back his place as commander of the King's Army. Shiba, meanwhile, f flees to the city where David's forces follow and threaten to destroy it with Siege works and a woman there. Comes to intervene and convinces the residents to kill Sheba, which they do, and they throw his head over the wall to say, look, this guy's done the rebellion's over. And that basically puts an end to shebas Shebas rebellion.

PJ:

Yeah. Amma was murdered for sure, but why did he delay? And that's unusual. I'm not sure. And the text doesn't tell us what caused his delay, but. Joab is an opportunist, and he took the opportunity that was afforded him, and I'm sure, here's part of the calculation here. David's trying to reunite the kingdom, and so he puts. Mesa Amsa, however you pronounce his name, he puts him in place because he was the commander under Absalom. So he's trying to think, okay, let's try to reunite the people here. Let's put them together. And so he, I think it, it works at least temporarily until Joe Abs opportunity comes by and he does so in the most devious way, drops. Hey brother. What's up brother? And stabs him in the back. A good friend will stab you in the front, not in the back.

Rod:

Yeah. Yeah. Grabs him by the beard. Yeah. Big jerk. Jerk. Man, don't name your Caden a Mesa or Joe, Adam, really, for that matter. Yeah. Are there names that you don't wanna call them, that's for sure. Probably not. Probably not. Alright. Chapter 21, then here we've got the Gibby Knights. And the Gibe Knights, remember had made a covenant with Joshua after, deceiving him into thinking that they had come from far away, if you can go back there. And during Saul's reign, he had apparently attacked the Gibbon Knights, breaking the Covenant, and that was made there. And so now Israel was suffering a famine as a result of this act. So this is just a reminder that God doesn't forget. God. God doesn't just overlook things and be like, oh, it's no big deal and move on. When we think we're getting away with something, we're not really getting away with anything. God's memory is perfect. And so here you've got a situation where Israel's suffering now under David for something that Saul had done. That goes all the way back to this. Covenant that was made between between the Gibeonites and Joshua, because Joshua hadn't sought the lord's wisdom in, in con and guidance there. And so there's a famine here. So to rectify the situation, David agrees to turn over seven of Saul's sons who are then hanged by the Gibeonites. And yeah, this one's difficult. One of their mothers of these men who were turned over she just is broken as you can imagine. And stays there and defends these bodies from any desecration, from wild animals. And after hearing this, David recognizes her and wants to honor her. So she gathers the bones of Saul and Jonathan and these other seven and has them properly buried to, to honor. But this is a. This is an uncomfortable section of scripture.

PJ:

It is. And I think part of the discomfort is that we're wondering, why would God do this? Why would God allow this? Why would God command this? And important to see here, God doesn't command it. He doesn't tell them to do what they're doing. And in fact, there's an uncomfortable silence from God about what he thinks about this. There's this assumption on our part that, oh, clearly God approved of what happened because the famine stopped. But notice here in verse in verse 14. They buried the bones of Saul and his son, Jonathan, in the land of Benjamin and Zela and the tomb of Kish, his father. And they did all that the king commanded. And after that, God responded to the plea for the land. So even though God was upset and he upset sounds human God was angry at the sin, the response of the sin was not a biblical response. They weren't saying let's apply the Torah to this. How would Moses tell us to deal with? They don't do that because nothing in scripture would command this to happen. The gibeonites are not. Yahweh fearers, and they're pagans. And so their response to this was let's you know, tick for tack. Let's take them in. So scripture doesn't commend that. Scripture doesn't tell us that was okay. In fact, God's silence on that suggests that God was not okay with that. What God does respond to though is the proper burial of the bodies, which tells me that even though it seems on the surface that God might have been behind this or okay with this, I don't think it is because God doesn't respond to this famine when they're killed, he responds to the famine after they're buried, which tells me there's something else going on there.

Rod:

Yeah that's helpful distinction there. The chapter ends with more war with the Philistines, and I'd mentioned earlier that David wasn't going to battle anymore 'cause the people had said, Hey, you're too valuable for us. But here he does go to battle this time, and maybe it's because it's a familiar foe and he's Hey, I want to go kill some more Philistines. David's been killing Philistines for a long time. You remember Saul, the bride price for for Mical was the hundred and he came back with 200. Yeah he. He likes going to war against the Philistines. So he goes back again. And this time though, verse 16, somebody bears down on him and is about to kill him. One of the Philistines and Abha comes to his aid. And basically after that, the men of Israel say, Hey David, we appreciate your help and all, but we got this handled now why don't you go back and be the king, be in the palace. Let us fight the battles here and and we'll take it from here. And that's what he ends up doing. But you'll notice a familiar name in verse 19. The name Goliath, the Tite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. This is very clearly a different Goliath. I don't think there's anything here to be like why, how is Goliath still here? No, I think just like today, there's multiple Steves, there's multiple johns, there's multiple rods, there's multiple PJs out there in the world there. There's multiple Goliaths at this time. We don't need to make anything more of that, but yeah. This is some more battle against the

PJ:

Philistines. I'm gonna take a slightly different take on that. Okay. In that I think it's a scribble error. Okay. And the cross reference that I'd love for you guys to jot down as first Chronicles 25 not 25, 20 verse five, first Chronicles 20 verse five. I think that preserves the original meaning. So I think what we're missing is the brother of the brother. The brother of I would assume that this is Goliath, the gi, the Goliath, the Tite, and that there's just some textual issues here that are preserved in our Bibles. But first Chronicles 20 verse five, I think helps fill in some of the gaps for me. That's fair.

Rod:

Yeah. I can see that. Definitely. Which is an example of why Chronicles is helpful as we read through the books of of First and Second Samuel and First and Second Kings team. That's right. All right let's pray and then we'll be done with this episode. God, thanks for your word, and for even just that how one can shed light on the other. And so we're grateful for that reality. I pray that we would read well and read it attentively. And so we thank you for your kindness to us in providing the the fullness of the canon for them. And so I pray that we'd be wise students of your word and that we would honor you in the way that we conduct our lives. So we pray this all in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Keep in your Bibles. Tune in again tomorrow for another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. We'll see you. Bye.

PJ:

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