1 00:00:01,260 --> 00:00:03,480 Janice Porter: Hello everyone, and welcome to this week's 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,860 episode of relationships rule. I have a special guest this week, 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,180 as always, and her name is Candy motsek, and I'm happy to 4 00:00:12,180 --> 00:00:16,320 introduce her and welcome her to the show. Candy is an author, a 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,040 podcast host and a business coach for life coaches, Candy 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,900 helps smart people start successful coaching businesses. 7 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:27,440 I love that she believes that coaching transforms lives and 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,220 that being a coach is a calling. She helps her clients get 9 00:00:31,220 --> 00:00:35,480 unstuck and feel more confidence and clarity so they can play 10 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:39,680 bigger, sign clients and create more meaningful success. She is 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,300 a recovering corporate executive, an engineer who 12 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:47,860 combines practical, strategy and mindset in her calming, unique 13 00:00:47,860 --> 00:00:51,820 approach to coaching. She also has a podcast, which is called, 14 00:00:51,820 --> 00:00:55,420 she coaches coaches, and I love that too. So welcome to the 15 00:00:55,420 --> 00:00:56,920 show, candy. Oh, 16 00:00:56,980 --> 00:00:59,380 Candy Motzek: thanks Janice, and I really appreciate having me 17 00:00:59,380 --> 00:01:02,940 on. It's great. Looking forward to our conversation, perfect. 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,080 Janice Porter: And I know that candy works from her she shed, 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,620 which is a beautiful spot in the back of her garden. Right? How 20 00:01:10,620 --> 00:01:11,760 long have you had that? 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,000 Candy Motzek: You know, it's been about seven years now, and 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:21,380 I just love it. And I got to say even all these things. And I'm 23 00:01:21,380 --> 00:01:25,700 thinking, I got to do something about that. All this, you know, 24 00:01:25,820 --> 00:01:28,940 like, it makes it really hard to pronounce all these things. So 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,200 apologies about that. Oh 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,360 Janice Porter: no, I love it. It's so cool. And to have your 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,260 own spaces, I love that. That's that's amazing to do your work. 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:42,100 So what intrigued me about your bio was the fact that you've 29 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:45,460 been the corporate route, which a lot of us in our age brackets 30 00:01:45,460 --> 00:01:48,880 have. So you've been the corporate route, and that you 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,420 were an engineer, so very linear, very left brain thinking 32 00:01:52,420 --> 00:01:58,780 kind of person. So you did you experience burnout? What was it 33 00:01:58,780 --> 00:02:03,720 that made you turn from the corporate world and decide I 34 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,320 want to be a coach. I am curious about that, so I'd love 35 00:02:07,859 --> 00:02:12,239 Candy Motzek: yeah and so yes, former engineer and corporate 36 00:02:12,239 --> 00:02:19,799 exec and burnout was like, I had a really big burnout one time. 37 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,259 But prior to that, I probably had three or four or five mini 38 00:02:24,259 --> 00:02:29,719 burnouts. So like, burnout is kind of like a way of life, and 39 00:02:29,719 --> 00:02:35,299 I'm recovering from that as well. It wasn't specifically the 40 00:02:35,299 --> 00:02:40,239 burnout that made me change, but I always knew that I was better 41 00:02:40,239 --> 00:02:43,779 suited to the people conversation, the coaching, that 42 00:02:43,779 --> 00:02:47,559 kind of thing. And I used to actually do it in every role 43 00:02:47,559 --> 00:02:50,439 that I had. I kind of did it, but I didn't have the training. 44 00:02:50,799 --> 00:02:55,479 Then when things really, you know, got nasty with burnout and 45 00:02:55,479 --> 00:02:58,779 that whole recovery process, I started to really look and go, 46 00:02:58,779 --> 00:03:03,179 Okay, what's really going on here is, you know, like, what do 47 00:03:03,179 --> 00:03:10,979 I really want? And as a woman, middle aged, I found that that 48 00:03:10,979 --> 00:03:14,339 was kind of a hard question. Like, you know, you're an 49 00:03:14,339 --> 00:03:16,859 overachiever, you're doing all the things, checking all the 50 00:03:16,859 --> 00:03:21,259 boxes. And then when I thought, oh my gosh, what do I want? I 51 00:03:21,259 --> 00:03:26,479 had no idea. And then through time, I figured out that 52 00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:29,719 coaching was a really great place for me. So burnout was 53 00:03:29,719 --> 00:03:34,399 definitely part of the journey. But more than anything, it was 54 00:03:34,399 --> 00:03:39,859 like going back to, you know, who I feel, how I felt that I 55 00:03:39,859 --> 00:03:43,119 wanted to live my life the kinds of things that I like to do. 56 00:03:43,299 --> 00:03:43,419 Yeah, 57 00:03:44,860 --> 00:03:48,880 Janice Porter: so it was a process. It took time. And it's 58 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:56,500 funny, because I left corporate in the early 2000s for two 59 00:03:56,500 --> 00:04:01,860 different reasons. One, I was being squeezed out because I was 60 00:04:01,860 --> 00:04:05,460 a trainer, but I was a contract trainer, and I wanted it that 61 00:04:05,460 --> 00:04:11,280 way because I had a little baby at home, but, well, she wasn't a 62 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,880 little baby by the time I got squeezed out she was but what 63 00:04:16,140 --> 00:04:22,340 was I going to say? But I didn't know what I wanted to do. I knew 64 00:04:22,340 --> 00:04:26,120 the writing was on the wall, and I knew I didn't want to be in a 65 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,720 job, job, which is why I'd been a contractor for so many years, 66 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,840 that I had some control over what I was doing, and I loved 67 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:35,660 what I was doing because I was training. And that's what I love 68 00:04:35,660 --> 00:04:39,440 to do, is teach and train, and that's what I've always done, 69 00:04:39,620 --> 00:04:42,940 whether I was a teacher and a school teacher, which I was or 70 00:04:42,940 --> 00:04:45,340 whether I was doing corporate training, I was always teaching. 71 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,080 So when I had to figure out who I was going forward, I actually 72 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,680 looked into coaching. And at that time, coaching was a very 73 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,240 new thing, and it cost 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of dollars to 74 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,980 get into it. Still. Last month a lot of money, but it was way 75 00:05:01,980 --> 00:05:04,440 more expensive back then, and I didn't have that kind of money 76 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,060 to make that transition. But I also discovered that I don't 77 00:05:09,060 --> 00:05:12,000 think I was a coach, because I'm a teacher and they're different. 78 00:05:12,540 --> 00:05:13,860 Yeah, do you see super different? 79 00:05:14,220 --> 00:05:18,780 Candy Motzek: Yeah, very different, yeah. And for me, the 80 00:05:18,780 --> 00:05:23,420 main difference between teaching and coaching is the teacher 81 00:05:23,420 --> 00:05:27,620 knows something that the student doesn't know, and you hopefully 82 00:05:27,620 --> 00:05:31,340 give them the most efficient, most effective way of helping 83 00:05:31,340 --> 00:05:36,080 them learn that thing, whereas the coach assumes that the human 84 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,180 on the other side of the call knows enough about their life. 85 00:05:40,540 --> 00:05:44,860 And so the questions are evocative, you know, like, what? 86 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:48,640 What question do you need to change your own perspective and 87 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,780 look at your own life differently? And so there's a 88 00:05:52,780 --> 00:05:56,860 lot of similarities, but the real difference is in the I know 89 00:05:56,860 --> 00:06:00,100 something a teacher, I know something that you don't know, 90 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:04,320 and I can help you. Whereas the coach says, you know something 91 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,200 and you don't know and you can figure this out, and I'm here 92 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:07,680 with you. 93 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,800 Janice Porter: That's, that's the best description I've heard 94 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,260 in a long time of the two different things, and it makes 95 00:06:13,260 --> 00:06:19,380 so much sense, absolutely and and also, what else I've noticed 96 00:06:19,380 --> 00:06:22,880 in the times that I've spent talking to you recently is you 97 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:28,520 have the best demeanor for a coach. You're so calm and so 98 00:06:28,580 --> 00:06:30,560 level, not, 99 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,680 Candy Motzek: yeah, thank you. Gosh, that's a I really 100 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:39,860 appreciate the compliment, and it's funny because on I'm a, I 101 00:06:39,860 --> 00:06:43,600 don't know how to describe it. I'm used to being calm, you 102 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,140 know, like old corporate land, when things get really crazy, 103 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,860 the leader needs to, like, take a breath, yeah, catch your 104 00:06:50,860 --> 00:06:55,480 breath. Don't jump, don't react, respond, support your team. And 105 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,260 I think I learned that. And so that's a lot of my calm 106 00:06:59,260 --> 00:07:04,020 demeanor. I am a relatively calm person, but I don't always feel 107 00:07:04,020 --> 00:07:07,260 calm inside. And I think that that's really important, that we 108 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:12,660 know that even though somebody's outside looks calm and together, 109 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,320 it has nothing to do with what's going on on the inside of them, 110 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,220 right? So 111 00:07:17,220 --> 00:07:19,620 Janice Porter: that's an interesting theory there. 112 00:07:19,620 --> 00:07:26,780 Because what if you know you're playing it out with your job or 113 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:30,140 with just life, or with your relationships that you're in, 114 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,920 and you're giving that the other people around you, the 115 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,400 appearance of your you got it all together, and it's calm, and 116 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,100 you're calm. It's funny, because I'm thinking about this, this 117 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:45,520 show I'm watching, which is called the bear, I don't know, 118 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,980 yeah, and it's about a chef and the whole all the people and the 119 00:07:50,980 --> 00:07:54,040 restaurant and everything. And they're all like, tight, tight 120 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,700 as a drum, because there's so much stress, and, you know, and 121 00:07:57,700 --> 00:08:02,100 yet, some of them are gliding that surface of the calmness, 122 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:07,740 and so when you're you're giving that person, giving off that 123 00:08:07,740 --> 00:08:11,940 persona, and you're dying inside, or you're so wound up 124 00:08:11,940 --> 00:08:14,340 inside that can't be good, right? No, 125 00:08:14,340 --> 00:08:16,800 Candy Motzek: it's not. And I think that there's a there's a 126 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,620 difference in it. It might be like, there's sort of three 127 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:23,540 scenarios. One is that you are feeling calm and the outside 128 00:08:23,540 --> 00:08:28,160 matches the inside. And then other times, maybe you're not 129 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,520 feeling calm inside, but you can you have enough emotional 130 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,820 regulation to take a breath and say, Okay, well, I'm feeling 131 00:08:34,820 --> 00:08:39,140 these feelings inside, but that doesn't mean that I need to make 132 00:08:39,140 --> 00:08:44,200 them have an impact. It's not the best way for us to solve 133 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,040 this problem or to come together or have that conversation. And 134 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,520 then there's other times when you're not feeling calm on the 135 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,720 outside, and you're just like, that's it. I'm not doing this. 136 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,480 And you go postal, essentially, right? Yeah, the place that it's 137 00:09:00,660 --> 00:09:06,180 great for us to be aware is just because we're feeling it doesn't 138 00:09:06,180 --> 00:09:09,660 mean we need to express it, but that doesn't mean that we're not 139 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:13,740 acknowledging that's how we feel, you know? So when just 140 00:09:13,740 --> 00:09:16,560 back to thinking about burnout, one of the things that I really 141 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:20,160 noticed about burnout is that I was numb. So not only did I look 142 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,620 calm, but I was like, flat, right? And there is a real 143 00:09:24,620 --> 00:09:29,360 difference between that. So if you're numb, okay, now you're 144 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,860 out of touch, but if you're aware, oh, I'm feeling nervous. 145 00:09:33,860 --> 00:09:37,340 You know, like my butterflies always go before a podcast 146 00:09:37,340 --> 00:09:41,200 interview. I might be feeling nervous, but I can take a deep 147 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,560 breath, and I can look at you on the other side of the screen and 148 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:47,260 know we're going to have a conversation. So yeah, 149 00:09:47,860 --> 00:09:51,100 Janice Porter: so let's talk about your clients for a minute, 150 00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:59,620 because you coach people who are they might be new coaches and. 151 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,480 Um, who have come from the same kind of situation as you have 152 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,960 some, you know, similar in that they've had Burnet, they've left 153 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:10,080 corporate, or they're thinking about leaving corporate, and 154 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,380 they might be doing something on the side, and I might just add 155 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:18,000 in here, and you jump in as when you hear, when you want to hear, 156 00:10:18,180 --> 00:10:21,620 is that there's a lot of people today calling themselves 157 00:10:21,620 --> 00:10:25,820 coaches, and they're not necessarily coaches, like 158 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,680 certified coaches, and I know I'm thinking of someone that is 159 00:10:30,860 --> 00:10:35,240 that came from corporate, and she just, she's just rolled into 160 00:10:35,420 --> 00:10:38,480 being a coach. She's certified, and she did everything while she 161 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,040 was still at the company, and now she's just rocking and 162 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,740 rolling it on her own. And in fact, she might be good person 163 00:10:44,740 --> 00:10:49,960 for your podcast. I just thought about that, and but there's a 164 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,260 lot of people out there. They don't know what to do. They 165 00:10:53,260 --> 00:10:55,660 don't know where to start, and that's where you come in. Do 166 00:10:55,660 --> 00:10:59,380 they find you? Or do you find them? First of all, most 167 00:10:59,380 --> 00:11:02,700 Candy Motzek: of the time, they find me. And so just back to 168 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:08,100 this, people who decide to be a coach, but maybe don't 169 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:11,820 necessarily take training. So we already talked a little bit 170 00:11:11,820 --> 00:11:14,820 about the difference between the trainer and the coach. And then 171 00:11:14,820 --> 00:11:18,120 there's sort of two other roles that I think kind of come into 172 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,980 play here, the one of mentor, you know? So, right? Mentor is a 173 00:11:21,980 --> 00:11:26,060 little bit different. Again. It says, I've been there and I can 174 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:29,840 guide you. And then consultant. Consultant says, Give me all 175 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,180 your stuff. I'll create a solution and hand you the 176 00:11:32,180 --> 00:11:37,940 solution. So there is a lot of people where they may not be a 177 00:11:37,940 --> 00:11:41,800 trained coach, but they may be one of these other roles, and it 178 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,100 may be very effective, but there's no regulation in the 179 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:46,720 industry right now, right? 180 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,940 Janice Porter: But wait a second, don't call me a co don't 181 00:11:48,940 --> 00:11:51,640 call yourself a coach. If that's not what you are, that's what, 182 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,520 Candy Motzek: yeah, you know what? I used to get myself 183 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:57,940 really wound up about that too, but I realized that I can't 184 00:11:57,940 --> 00:12:00,780 control what anybody else calls themselves, and if they want to 185 00:12:00,780 --> 00:12:04,320 call themselves cells, chocolate milk or a puppy, I mean, so be 186 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,820 it, right? But there is no regulation. So the people that I 187 00:12:08,820 --> 00:12:12,600 work with, we've taken training, we've practiced, we've had 188 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,980 oversight. We know coaching skills, which is very different, 189 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,080 and we call ourselves coaches. Other people in the world are 190 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,040 going to call themselves a coach. Eventually, at some point 191 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,120 in time, there will be some kind of regulation, and at that 192 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,800 point, well, then, then things will have to change. Sorry, but 193 00:12:33,860 --> 00:12:36,500 then you had another question for me. I just wanted to dive in 194 00:12:36,500 --> 00:12:39,020 on that, because I think it's really important for people to 195 00:12:39,020 --> 00:12:42,640 know that is some Yeah, some coaches are not coaches, yeah. 196 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:47,440 And so if you're looking at engaging a coach to help with 197 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:50,860 anything, you might want to see if they've actually got coach 198 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:53,740 training in addition to their life training and their life 199 00:12:53,740 --> 00:12:54,340 skills, 200 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,860 Janice Porter: right? And I think that, you know, I have, 201 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,960 I've always said that, you know, I can mentor people. I've got 202 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,020 the Wisdom, I've got the experience, I've been through it 203 00:13:04,020 --> 00:13:07,320 all. So now let me help you, but it's not I would never be a 204 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,660 coach. I would never call myself a coach, because I'm not a 205 00:13:09,660 --> 00:13:13,380 coach. But yeah, so the second piece we I was talking about was 206 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,420 you said that your clients find you. So are they in various 207 00:13:18,420 --> 00:13:21,800 stages when they find you? Have they decided they want to be a 208 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,180 coach, or are they just still in burnout mode? Yeah, 209 00:13:26,180 --> 00:13:28,400 Candy Motzek: so some of them are in thinking mode where 210 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,820 they're like, Ah, this coaching thing sounds interesting. They 211 00:13:31,820 --> 00:13:35,720 find me in that stage. They find me in I've decided this is 212 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,940 something that I'd like to do, and I'm in the middle of 213 00:13:37,940 --> 00:13:42,040 training. I talk to people then and then also others who are 214 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,280 finished their training and have made a start, and they're just 215 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,940 like, Well, I really want to do this, but it's not as easy as I 216 00:13:48,940 --> 00:13:52,120 thought, and I've got some challenges, and I need some 217 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:57,400 help. So sort of three different ways that people kind of 218 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,260 conditions that they come to me in and they find me through all 219 00:14:01,260 --> 00:14:04,680 different ways. They find me on LinkedIn, they find me on my 220 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:08,460 podcast. They find me on interviews, on other people's 221 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:11,160 shows. I've got a book that I wrote. You know, all these 222 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,300 different ways. The thing that's important is I try to be myself. 223 00:14:16,020 --> 00:14:19,680 And, you know, there's people who will find me and I am just 224 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,000 not their flavor. That's fine. And there's people who find me 225 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,600 and they're like, Oh, I could talk to her. I love that, don't 226 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,200 you? Right? I 227 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,900 Janice Porter: love that, yeah, because enough out there for all 228 00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:33,620 of us. We just have to number one, you know, if you're, for 229 00:14:33,620 --> 00:14:36,920 example, using LinkedIn, because I have to put this plug in here, 230 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,560 because you just gave me that opening, is that if your 231 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:44,200 LinkedIn speaks to who you are and who your audience is, they 232 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,500 will attract the right people, and then it usually works. But 233 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:51,460 if there's no, you know, there's nothing to hook me into that 234 00:14:51,460 --> 00:14:55,600 might be my person. Quite often it isn't. So, you know, it's 235 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,600 kind of fun to to to explore that and and. Find the right 236 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:10,740 people. So what would you say is your ideal client Like, who do 237 00:15:10,740 --> 00:15:13,920 you love to work with the most? Which stage are they at? 238 00:15:14,340 --> 00:15:17,220 Candy Motzek: Yeah, so the people that I love to work with 239 00:15:17,220 --> 00:15:20,420 the most are the ones that are in the middle of their personal 240 00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:25,700 development before they become a coach. So they are people who 241 00:15:25,700 --> 00:15:30,080 are successful, hard workers, ambitious, and they know 242 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,520 something's not quite right in their life. And so they're doing 243 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,880 that personal exploration. I love working with those people 244 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:43,780 to begin with, and then many of them go, Oh yes, I want, now 245 00:15:43,780 --> 00:15:47,260 that I've experienced coaching, I want to be able to do that 246 00:15:47,260 --> 00:15:47,800 also 247 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,880 Janice Porter: and and usually I would expect, but I'm not going 248 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,080 to assume, but I would expect that they're coming from the the 249 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,980 idea that they, like I said, they've got the Wisdom in the 250 00:15:59,980 --> 00:16:04,920 field they were In, or how to how to be a good leader, and 251 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,940 they just were in the wrong environment, or the corporate 252 00:16:09,060 --> 00:16:12,360 thing just gets to be too much after a while, or whatever, 253 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:12,780 right? 254 00:16:13,140 --> 00:16:13,980 Candy Motzek: Yeah, definitely, 255 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,280 Janice Porter: especially today, yeah. 256 00:16:17,340 --> 00:16:20,040 Candy Motzek: I really feel for the people in corporate. I think 257 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,180 that you can have a great career, but I'm not sure that 258 00:16:23,180 --> 00:16:26,600 it's a lifetime career anymore. That's just my opinion. 259 00:16:27,140 --> 00:16:30,440 Janice Porter: I well it, yeah, it isn't, I don't think, but 260 00:16:31,580 --> 00:16:35,240 depends. I don't want to get into it, but I see people being 261 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,560 poor leaders that are leading my people, like my daughter, who 262 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:44,080 need strong leaders to teach them and guide them moving 263 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,340 forward. And instead, she hates her job and she hates her boss, 264 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,940 you know. So it's just and yet you can't leave. You're making 265 00:16:51,940 --> 00:16:56,260 good money and, you know, you're anyway. So it's very frustrating 266 00:16:56,260 --> 00:16:56,680 to say what 267 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,380 Candy Motzek: you're saying. I mean, that's not, it's not an 268 00:16:59,380 --> 00:17:03,900 isolated incident. There's 1000s, hundreds of 1000s of 269 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:07,080 people in that, in that scenario, and it's tough, 270 00:17:07,199 --> 00:17:10,379 Janice Porter: yeah, yeah, but I guess because everybody's 271 00:17:10,379 --> 00:17:15,839 struggling to survive, right? And okay, so that brings me, 272 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:16,739 actually, to 273 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:20,960 the you 274 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,220 help your clients get unstuck and feel more confidence and 275 00:17:25,220 --> 00:17:29,360 clarity, so that you know they can see the forest for the 276 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:33,320 trees, so to speak, they can see whether they're what they can do 277 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:38,180 to better themselves in their situation or move or Get the 278 00:17:38,180 --> 00:17:43,480 confidence to move to another situation. So have you gone 279 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,660 through, like, the actual transition with clients, where 280 00:17:46,660 --> 00:17:48,940 they've left corporate while you're Yeah, 281 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:57,040 Candy Motzek: yeah, yeah, yes. And it's very for me, it's super 282 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:02,040 rewarding. Oh, I'm sure, mainly, and it's not the leaving 283 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,560 corporate, like some of them become coaches and stay where 284 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,920 they are, or shift within their company. You know, they get they 285 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,440 choose the right path for them, but the thing that's the most 286 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,560 rewarding is that they become more of who they're supposed to 287 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,100 be, right? And that's the part in my bio where I think coaching 288 00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:20,720 is a calling, like there is a certain kind of person who wants 289 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,500 to have a deep conversation to help somebody else grow in their 290 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:29,780 life. And so for me, that seeing them go, you know, like they 291 00:18:29,780 --> 00:18:33,080 might have originally started with me, and they're a little 292 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,020 bit hollow and a little bit tired and a little bit a lot of 293 00:18:36,020 --> 00:18:40,120 things, and then all of a sudden, it's like they wake up 294 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:42,880 and they get their life back. That's amazing. 295 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,400 Janice Porter: Oh yeah, it must be you just made me think of 296 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,080 something too, where you said you certain kind of person that 297 00:18:50,140 --> 00:18:53,260 that you know likes to get have the deeper conversations and so 298 00:18:53,260 --> 00:18:58,060 on. It reminds me, actually, of sort of a joke. But it's not in 299 00:18:58,060 --> 00:19:02,100 that my husband will go golfing with somebody, and he'll come 300 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,200 back and say, Oh, I met this really great couple from 301 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,740 Australia that we golfed with today. And I've heard, actually, 302 00:19:09,540 --> 00:19:13,080 comedians do this joke, but this isn't a joke. This is real life. 303 00:19:13,140 --> 00:19:16,920 So my husband will come home and I'll say, Oh, great. I said, you 304 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,420 know, where were they from? I don't know. What were they doing 305 00:19:20,420 --> 00:19:23,060 here, like, you know, did they? Are they here on vacation? Or, 306 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,480 you know, blah, blah, blah, I'm asking a million questions. 307 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,720 Janice, I don't know. I was just golfing with them. You spent 308 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,860 four hours with them, and you have nothing to tell me, right? 309 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,640 Yeah, that's But me, I'm five minutes. I would have had the 310 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,260 whole life history of that couple 311 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,740 Candy Motzek: so exactly, and shown the pictures of the 312 00:19:41,740 --> 00:19:44,620 grandchildren and the graduations and all of these 313 00:19:44,620 --> 00:19:45,700 things, right? Yeah. 314 00:19:46,420 --> 00:19:49,900 Janice Porter: So there are people like us who like to have 315 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:54,040 those conversations, and can do it in the in the you know, very 316 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,820 easily. Now, yours is more controlled and more systematic, 317 00:19:57,820 --> 00:20:00,720 because you have a strategy when your coach. Watching somebody 318 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,180 me, I'm just curious, and I just want to know more. But 319 00:20:03,180 --> 00:20:05,820 Candy Motzek: that's the thing, right? Like that curiosity, that 320 00:20:05,820 --> 00:20:08,760 is the spark of learning, and that's the spark of connection. 321 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,060 Like, as soon as you're curious about somebody, they feel, they 322 00:20:12,060 --> 00:20:14,760 relax, they're like, Oh, she's not judging me. She's interested 323 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,600 in me. There's your that's how you know, your skill at creating 324 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,720 relationships is amazing from that, 325 00:20:20,780 --> 00:20:22,700 Janice Porter: that's what I love to do. Yeah, it's kind of 326 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:29,840 fun. So so we said we'd talk a little bit about self care, and 327 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:36,500 so let's do that in the sense of, like, where what were you 328 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:40,360 thinking? Were you thinking of the potential clients that you 329 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:43,900 have and how they should take or just in general, for women, 330 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:45,100 let's say in our age, 331 00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:49,780 Candy Motzek: yeah, well, I was thinking women mainly 332 00:20:49,780 --> 00:20:51,580 entrepreneurs and self care. 333 00:20:53,020 --> 00:20:55,000 Janice Porter: Let's do that, because the relationship we have 334 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,660 with ourself is so important. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, for sure. 335 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,600 Okay, so go for it. Tell me. Tell me. Okay. Look like, yeah, 336 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,100 tell me. What did that mean to you when you say we should all 337 00:21:08,820 --> 00:21:12,180 pay attention and, you know, take care of ourselves well. You 338 00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:15,480 and I had a little conversation before we went on air about me 339 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,960 not taking care of my knee. And that's sort of, you know, I'm 340 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,320 getting there, but that's self care in itself, right, 341 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,620 Candy Motzek: right? And we all, we all have these things where 342 00:21:24,620 --> 00:21:27,680 we don't take care of ourselves. We put ourselves second or third 343 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,380 or like, at the bottom of the list, we didn't even make the 344 00:21:30,380 --> 00:21:34,160 list, right? So for me, the self care, it actually starts with 345 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,680 that question that I said earlier, like, what do I want? 346 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,780 Right? You know, when we allow ourselves to want to feel good 347 00:21:41,140 --> 00:21:45,940 and to feel energized and full of energy and have a great life, 348 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,020 there's a place of those are some clues for us for self care. 349 00:21:50,740 --> 00:21:53,980 Often, the things that you hear about self care they you know 350 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,720 when you're not in a position where you're taking care of 351 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,680 yourself, because life has happened and that's just the way 352 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,520 it is. And then you learn what to do. You go, oh, gosh, that 353 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,300 it's so easy. But it's not so easy when you're you know, 354 00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:12,120 you've put yourself down the priority list, and you have to 355 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:15,120 climb your way out. So things like getting enough sleep, 356 00:22:15,780 --> 00:22:21,260 drinking water, eating healthy, nourishing food, move your body, 357 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,420 get outside in nature, get some sunlight on your face, and 358 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,180 Janice Porter: do that enough, that's for sure, and play, 359 00:22:29,540 --> 00:22:30,020 whether 360 00:22:30,020 --> 00:22:33,680 Candy Motzek: that is you love to listen to music and sing 361 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,820 along, or you love to dance in the kitchen. And so those are 362 00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:44,980 the things I love, also, creativity and as adult women, 363 00:22:45,340 --> 00:22:49,120 lots of times, we've lost that place of creativity, right? So 364 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:52,240 go back to those fun things that you used to do when you were 365 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,280 younger. Maybe you loved to paint, maybe you loved to do 366 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,020 calligraphy, maybe you loved just a color. It doesn't matter 367 00:23:01,020 --> 00:23:06,060 what it is, it's that. It's not work, it's not constructive, 368 00:23:06,060 --> 00:23:09,360 it's play, right? That's, I think, is the biggest thing. I 369 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:11,220 don't know what's your experience with play, 370 00:23:11,820 --> 00:23:15,540 Janice Porter: that I don't do enough of it and that. But my 371 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:21,440 granddaughter is teaching me in that. I've noticed that when I'm 372 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,300 with her, and she's five now, but when I'm with her, all else 373 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:29,960 doesn't matter, because I'm focused on what we're doing and 374 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,020 working with her, playing well, I say, working with her, playing 375 00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:35,420 with her, but I'm often teaching, because that's what I 376 00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:42,820 do. But she is definitely brought that to play. No pun 377 00:23:42,820 --> 00:23:44,200 intended. More I love 378 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,120 Candy Motzek: that. Yeah, and there's something that you said 379 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:49,720 too, that I think is, is really important here, is you kind of 380 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,420 lose track of all the other things that are going on, right? 381 00:23:52,420 --> 00:23:55,840 So when you're so focused and you're playing and you're being 382 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,600 creative and you're right present, yeah, that recharges 383 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,800 your batteries, right? 384 00:24:02,220 --> 00:24:06,000 Janice Porter: Do you know Kristen Anderson? No, no, I 385 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,840 don't. Oh, she's amazing. She's all about play, and she teaches 386 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,700 people in the workplace to play. And she was on my podcast a 387 00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:17,460 long, long time ago. I should have her come back on. Actually, 388 00:24:17,580 --> 00:24:21,320 she's a lot of fun. She's local and but she works with a lot of 389 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,340 corporations around play, so I often see her on Facebook being 390 00:24:25,340 --> 00:24:27,800 silly and doing stuff like that, you know, that I would never 391 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,960 find myself doing. But yeah, so she likes to have fun. And there 392 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:40,040 was something else I was going to say about that. Oh, no. What 393 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,120 I was going to say is I'm just going to shift the topic a 394 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:47,140 little bit sure, because I shared with you, before we came 395 00:24:47,140 --> 00:24:51,040 on air, that I found an old podcast of yours about grow your 396 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,460 business with gratitude. Now I know that that's not what we 397 00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:58,240 were totally talking about. However, I think it fits in the 398 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:05,940 sense that I. Uh, that is a having gratitude helps you be 399 00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:10,260 it's a positive thing, right? Is, and I notice you have these 400 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,960 journals or books behind you, and I'm guessing they're 401 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,580 journals. And, yeah, do you? You talked about writing, and 402 00:25:17,580 --> 00:25:22,160 actually three in this podcast, you talked about gratitude and 403 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,500 writing things down every three things every day. But what I 404 00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:30,680 loved about it was that you actually explained, you know, 405 00:25:30,740 --> 00:25:34,460 why we get stuck writing the same three things every day, but 406 00:25:34,460 --> 00:25:37,580 we because we're not expanding on those things. And that was a 407 00:25:37,580 --> 00:25:40,420 good reminder to me, I'm not very good at journaling. I've 408 00:25:40,420 --> 00:25:44,200 I've something I've tried over the years but never stuck to, do 409 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,000 you do do you journal every day? 410 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,600 Candy Motzek: Yes, every single day. And these poor books that 411 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,500 are behind me right here, that's I go through about one a month. 412 00:25:53,740 --> 00:25:58,540 I never used to journal, but it, it journaling is one word, but 413 00:25:58,540 --> 00:26:02,220 it does a whole bunch of things, you know? So I either get rid of 414 00:26:02,220 --> 00:26:06,240 the garbage in my head. I deal with different perspectives. I 415 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,080 might coach myself. I might plan something for my business. I 416 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,260 might remember what to be grateful for. And I love 417 00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:18,540 gratitude really is a powerful it's really a powerful approach, 418 00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:24,560 right? Like totally. It's in the it's in the detail that we feel 419 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,980 the gratitude. So, you know, like you were saying, you could 420 00:26:27,980 --> 00:26:30,560 go to bed every night and say, What three things am I grateful 421 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,840 for? Oh, my house, my you know relationships, and you know that 422 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,480 it's summer, but it doesn't there's no connection, right? 423 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,160 There's no connection to your emotions into your life, but 424 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,360 when it's like my health, because I've just gotten over 425 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:50,740 the flu, and now I'm starting to feel like myself or my health, 426 00:26:50,740 --> 00:26:55,000 because I made a great salad tonight, and I just feel so good 427 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,480 and clean. Now you've got something that hangs on to 428 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,320 right, and I think that's where it really matters. Yeah, 429 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,600 Janice Porter: that's good. And do you incorporate journal 430 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,380 writing with your clients? Do you encourage them to do that? 431 00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:13,740 Candy Motzek: Yes, yeah, this is something that is part of the 432 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,680 thing I recommend everybody do. And so there's a particular 433 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,660 format that I recommend, but it's always starting small, 434 00:27:23,660 --> 00:27:28,160 because to go from never journaling to writing and 435 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,120 writing and writing is just too big of a jump, right with two 436 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:35,180 minutes a day, a little bit, and all you have to do is start with 437 00:27:35,180 --> 00:27:38,660 that place where you go what's on my mind right now, and you 438 00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:41,800 just write about it, and that's it for two minutes. You do that 439 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,180 for a few days, and you start to build that habit. I've had 440 00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:50,860 clients that maybe I've worked with them for a year or two 441 00:27:50,860 --> 00:27:54,460 years, and in the first month, we talk about journaling, and I 442 00:27:54,460 --> 00:27:59,080 tell them what to do, and then I remind them every month for a 443 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,980 long time. And because it takes, it takes, right? And then 18 444 00:28:04,980 --> 00:28:07,680 months later, they're saying to me, you know, the best thing 445 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,620 that I've ever learned is this journaling habit, boy, you 446 00:28:10,620 --> 00:28:13,380 should really do more of this journaling habit. And I love it 447 00:28:13,380 --> 00:28:15,960 because it means that it's, they've taken it and made it 448 00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:19,920 theirs, right? They've created the way that works for them. But 449 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,500 it just, it doesn't happen overnight. So when 450 00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:27,980 Janice Porter: people journal on a daily basis, I'm curious about 451 00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:31,340 this, do you go back and read what you've written, or do you 452 00:28:31,340 --> 00:28:34,280 just, is it just about getting it down out of your head? 453 00:28:34,820 --> 00:28:37,580 Candy Motzek: It's different. There's different ways. So 454 00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:42,940 sometimes I go back like I'm working on a particular approach 455 00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:47,020 right now around this is one of the books by Dr Benjamin Hardy. 456 00:28:47,020 --> 00:28:52,480 10x is easier than 2x so I have this vision of my 10x self, and 457 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,660 it's completely impossible to achieve this thing that I have 458 00:28:55,660 --> 00:29:00,700 in my imagination. But I spend every day a few minutes dreaming 459 00:29:00,940 --> 00:29:04,560 and saying, let's pretend. Let's pretend that it actually 460 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,520 happened. And then write about that those ones, I go and I 461 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,940 reread. But if I've just woken up on the wrong side of the bed 462 00:29:11,940 --> 00:29:15,360 and I'm feeling grumpy and all that, then I'm just going to be 463 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,320 like, Oh, what's bothering me right now? And I write a list of 464 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,580 all the things that are bothering me, those ones I don't 465 00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:25,520 go back and look at, right? So it's, you know, super 466 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,340 Janice Porter: those in the same book. Are they? Yeah, okay, 467 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,360 yeah. 468 00:29:29,420 --> 00:29:32,120 Candy Motzek: I'll just like, whatever is the mood of the day. 469 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,740 That's what, that's what I'm doing. I 470 00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:37,880 Janice Porter: love journals. I love the whole idea of them, but 471 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,500 I can't, maybe I'll try again, because I like the idea. I just 472 00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:45,100 the funny thing is, over the years, my handwriting used to be 473 00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:46,540 wonderful. Now it's not. 474 00:29:47,260 --> 00:29:49,240 Candy Motzek: I've heard that, as you get more intelligent, 475 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,620 your handwriting is so that's right, perfect. I'm 476 00:29:53,620 --> 00:29:56,500 Janice Porter: taking that one with me. I love it. Okay, all 477 00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:59,260 right, this has been so great. So I've got two last questions 478 00:29:59,260 --> 00:30:05,220 for you. The first. One is that you may already know this, but 479 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:09,840 curiosity is one of my favorite words, and I love that whole 480 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,440 concept of curiosity. And this is a two part question that I 481 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,080 like to ask most of my guests, if I'm feeling it and I'm 482 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,380 feeling it today. So first part is, do you believe that 483 00:30:19,380 --> 00:30:24,380 curiosity is innate or learned, and part two is, what are you 484 00:30:24,380 --> 00:30:26,720 most curious about these days yourself? 485 00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:33,200 Candy Motzek: So I believe that curiosity is innate, and then we 486 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,520 unlearn it, and then we relearn it. That's my that's my thought. 487 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,600 I get kind of hardened and cynical, you know, when we're 488 00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:46,600 living that adult life from, say, 20 to 3540, unless we're 489 00:30:46,660 --> 00:30:50,620 we've never lost that sort of gift of curiosity. Sometimes 490 00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:54,700 Janice Porter: it can be, I think, lost in school. Yeah, 491 00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:58,960 yeah. You know, I swear one of my daughters never had a teacher 492 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,320 that inspired her, Oh, her whole high school years, and I think 493 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,060 that made a huge difference. Now she didn't like school, but she 494 00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:13,860 was a great athlete, and so that kind of kept her going. My other 495 00:31:13,860 --> 00:31:17,580 daughter would argue if she got a B plus, because it wasn't an 496 00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:21,680 A. So she loved learning in school, right? So I think it 497 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,500 depends. But yeah, that's that's fine. I mean, there's no wrong 498 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,800 answer. People believe what they believe. So thank you for your 499 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,460 your take on that. And what are you most curious about? 500 00:31:31,820 --> 00:31:36,080 Candy Motzek: What am I most curious about these days? I love 501 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:43,000 that question. I'm always most curious about people and what 502 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:49,480 makes them tick, and, you know, like, how they got to be who 503 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:56,260 they are, what's going on in their life, and and there's 504 00:31:56,260 --> 00:32:00,480 something about it's hard to describe. It kind of goes back 505 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,140 to that thing about why I love coaching is I'm always curious 506 00:32:04,140 --> 00:32:07,320 about what's the thing that kind of relights that spark in their 507 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,260 eyes. It's, you know, like we might be talking, and then all 508 00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:12,660 of a sudden, it's there. It's like, oh, there it is. They just 509 00:32:12,660 --> 00:32:17,160 woke up. What was that? Yeah, super curious about that. Super 510 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:24,320 curious about people and just what, what makes them not just 511 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,820 happy, but fulfilled and satisfied? You know, happy is so 512 00:32:28,820 --> 00:32:31,700 fleeting, but fulfilled is a big deal. 513 00:32:32,060 --> 00:32:35,360 Janice Porter: I would think that you have to be a really 514 00:32:35,540 --> 00:32:41,560 observant person, but also a very if this makes sense, an 515 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,520 observant listener, an activist, but an observant right, like, 516 00:32:45,580 --> 00:32:49,420 just totally Yeah, so, and that's a real skill in itself. 517 00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:53,320 Just for fun. Do you know what the anagram of listen is? 518 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:54,700 Candy Motzek: Silent, 519 00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:56,260 Janice Porter: yeah. Isn't that brilliant? 520 00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:58,840 Candy Motzek: Yeah. I love it. I know. 521 00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:01,620 Janice Porter: I just something that comes to me once in a 522 00:33:01,620 --> 00:33:06,300 while. I used to teach listening as one of the skills to in 523 00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:11,040 customer service that I used to teach at our at corporate when I 524 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,400 was at the telephone company, and I did this day long training 525 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,120 for customer service people, and listening was part of it. So, 526 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,960 yeah, it always came from a book I read about listening, and I 527 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:27,140 never forgot it ever anyway, I digress. Last question, what's 528 00:33:27,140 --> 00:33:29,900 your best piece of advice that you would like to share with my 529 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,880 audience about whatever you want to do with your business, 530 00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:36,560 whatever 531 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,860 Candy Motzek: I think the best piece of advice about business 532 00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:49,480 and with your audience is that it's not just okay for you to 533 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,660 build a business that's reflective of you and who you 534 00:33:52,660 --> 00:33:56,680 really are and what you really want, but it's imperative, 535 00:33:56,860 --> 00:34:00,540 because that's the business that wants to be created through you. 536 00:34:01,020 --> 00:34:08,160 So so often, it's easy to sign up with a coach or a trainer who 537 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:14,160 says, do my five steps and it will work. But those five steps 538 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,240 are fine, but they're maybe not exactly your flavor, exactly 539 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:22,760 your value system. So take that extra bit of time and really 540 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,300 check inside and make sure that the thing that you're creating 541 00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:29,600 really speaks to you. There's lots of people who create 542 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,480 businesses that are not fulfilling, so just give 543 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,500 yourself permission to want what you want and to create the way 544 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,820 that you want to make it. 545 00:34:38,059 --> 00:34:39,859 Janice Porter: Yeah, that's great advice, actually, because 546 00:34:39,859 --> 00:34:42,939 there's so many people out there daily selling us stuff, and we 547 00:34:42,939 --> 00:34:47,919 get caught up in in something that sounds good for the minute, 548 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:52,479 and now it's so easy to buy. Yeah, we haven't thought it 549 00:34:52,479 --> 00:34:55,539 through. So we need to stop and look, is it really the right fit 550 00:34:55,539 --> 00:34:58,839 for us? That's amazing. Thank you. You've been an amazing 551 00:34:58,839 --> 00:35:04,859 guest. You. You. Gave us some great strategies and skills, and 552 00:35:04,859 --> 00:35:07,139 I got to know you a little bit better, and that's always 553 00:35:07,139 --> 00:35:11,639 special for me. So thank you for being here, and thank you to my 554 00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:15,959 audience again for your loyalty and for being here. And please, 555 00:35:15,959 --> 00:35:18,719 if you like what you've heard, please leave a review. We'd love 556 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,419 to hear them. And you can find candy on her website at 557 00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:28,820 Candy Motzek: step into success. Now.com is my website, and I 558 00:35:28,820 --> 00:35:34,340 have a free gift for anybody. It is at Candy's free gift.com 559 00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:38,000 Janice Porter: perfect, and I will put those on the show 560 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,240 notes. And I appreciate again you being here and again, 561 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:45,940 remember to stay connected and be remembered. You.