Brenda St. Louis: You're abandoning a part of your

nervous system that needs to be regulated when you're doing it.

A man could like a 24 hour system. That's how a man's body

works in the health world, right? They and a woman has a 30

day system. But it's similar if you're going into the bank when

you're on your when you're on your period, your your emotions

and what you're feeling and how you're going to make a decision

is going to be very different than when you're ovulating,

right? So knowing your physical body and how you operate is

really important to lead with. When you work with money, you're

not going to change the money system. And I think a lot of

times we think we're going to change it. We just have to

approach it fully embodied and fully regulated.

Hello, my loves. I am so excited for you today.

This episode has been a long time coming. There have been so

many requests over the years for money episodes, we as women have

been so disempowered around money and left blind and not

educated, and I have brought on the perfect person to empower

you around your perspectives around money. How you do money,

your relationship with money? So if you're feeling any shame,

guilt, doubt, blame any of those things and you're ready to

change your relationship with money. This is the episode for

you. Share it with every woman you know who needs to hear this

message. I'm so excited to have you here. Brenda, hi. Brenda,

hey. It's so good to be here, and it's so good to reconnect

after so many years. We've known each other for quite some time.

I know. How many years have we known each other? Probably 10. I

would say, No, I've done my business for nine years, so it's

longer than more than that, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. Like,

it's probably like, maybe 15, yeah, yeah, because I think I

knew you quite a few years before I started. Yeah, this so

interesting how time flies. Yeah, it's wild. And who we've

become in the last 15 years is pretty extraordinary. Yes, yeah,

I still have goosebumps from all the things you just shared with

me, everything you've been creating. You're now a published

author of this epic book. Do you want to tell us a little tell

everyone a little bit about it? Sure, it's my first fiction,

like I've published nonfiction before, but this is called the

Lost synapse, and it's fiction, but it's it was downloaded to

me, and I've been working on it for probably 15 years, so maybe

when we first met, I was starting it, and all the

characters had been knocking on my door to come in. And it

really is a book about transformation. It's young

adult. It's about working with the mycelium network, which is

really present right now for a lot of people, and the earth

energy and how technology and the organic matter in our

reality needs to have a relationship. Because I feel

like the mass shift that we need to step on the planet, step up

on the planet needs to happen. But the book itself is an

adventure of kids that have coding ability, and they're

working with trying to create a reality where empathy and

compassion is the currency, rather than power and control

and separation. And that's kind of the work that I want to do

with money, because money has been this space of separation

for so long for people, and I feel like it could be a conduit

for connection if we change our lens and we look at it

differently. So the story of money and the transactional

universe is a lightly brushed in the book. It's a trilogy. So the

second book kind of deepens how in our transactional reality, we

start to have the power to create a deeper connection with

each other, in the planet and all of that. So it's fun, it's

scary, it's exciting, it's really fast paced, and,

yeah, like, I've had someone pitch it to me that they

might want to pitch it to some production companies, because

it's written like, it could be a movie.

No, it's going to be a movie. I was, I'm like, I

delete that part, because I was excited to be like, Oh my god,

this is so going to be a movie. I had, like, I had waves of

goosebumps, as you were talking, waves like, it just kept going

and going and going, I This is unbelievable. It's so incredibly

powerful. What you've been up to, and you've been working with

women around money for a really long time. How? What? Yeah, it's

been about.

I've been, I've been a facilitator and a coach and a

speaker from the stage for about 25 years, and a somatic

therapist. But about eight, I think it's 18. I keep saying

it's 15, but I think it's 18 years I had the bonk on the.

Head that I'm supposed to put what I've done throughout my

life focused on money and our relationship with money. And I

mean, I don't know if I've ever told you this story, but when I

was in clown school in Vancouver, I got the message. I

was it was I went into trance during one of the exercises

where we make these masks, and I got this total bonk in the head

that I am supposed to work with money women, and so that I can

use money as a conduit for changing how we relate with it.

So it's a way for love and connection to expand on the

planet. And so ever since then, I've studied everyone I can get

my hands on. At the time, no one was doing financial therapy and

was doing deeper work with money.

There was an Instagram, yeah, there wasn't

all this social media five minute like, I can help you make

a million dollars, people.

No, there was, there was that, but no one talked

about the soma, the nervous system, and how we are

dysregulated, how we relate with money. No one was teaching it.

There was no such thing as a financial therapist. That's what

I called myself. And so I feel like I've been pioneering it,

and ever since I started, it's blooming, like there's more

money coaches, there's more therapists that work with money.

So it's happening, but I feel like I was at the beginning of

this movement of having a deeper, more profound

relationship with your finances.

For sure you were and sorry you lost me when I was

in clown school. No, I actually knew I had heard that because I

heard your turning point story before, when we were when we did

this work with Callan. So I have heard the clown school thing,

but I'm sure so many people are like, Wait, why? That's not a

statement you hear every day. What I know you want to tell us

just for a minute, like what that was about, and what that

what, what led you to clown school? I didn't even know there

was such a thing. It makes sense. Such a thing. It makes

sense that

there would be. But, well, it's so interesting when I

you know, in grade eight, where you fill out the little dots to

pick your career, yeah, and they put it in a machine way back

when, and they spit out the top three careers, and then your

teacher says, Well, you can go to this school, or you can go to

this school. And so the top three things, the first one was

clown, the second one was priest, and the third one was

marine biologist. And so I was like a clown, a class clown in

school too. And I didn't like school. I was dyslexic. I didn't

really I wasn't really good at all the things, but I was great

at making people laugh. So she was like, Well, I guess we can

look at marine biology. And I said, No, I want to go to clown

school. And she bit she said, Okay, so she did all the

research to find the the clown schools. There's one in in the

Ukraine, and then there was one in or it was Russia at the time,

and there was one in Vancouver. And I was living in Ontario, and

I was like, whoa, okay. So I always knew from grade eight

that there was a clown school in Vancouver, and this was like the

80s. So I did my life. I did all the things. And then I moved to

Korea, South Korea, and I was studying dance with this Korean

dance teacher, and she made us all go to this clown performance

called slava's Snow show, and I were sitting there. There were

like 1000s and 1000s of people in the theater, and there was

this clown that came and shuffled onto the stage and

would stop and move his head. And basically he was telling

this story and getting us ready without using words. Was just

the presence that he had in his body. And he gets into the

middle of the stage, and then he looks at us, and he moves his

head one way, and everyone laughs. And I was like, I want

to be able to do that. I want to be able to capture an audience

and engage with them in such a way that they feel so connected

to me. And I knew it. I knew that that was what I was doing.

And then when I moved back from Korea, I was living in Seoul,

and I moved back to Vancouver, I was studying dance in Vancouver

and doing all the things and figuring out what I wanted to

do. And I had a broken heart. I ended a relationship. And so I

said, I just am so dark. I need to laugh. So I said, I know

there's a clown school here. So I I had enough money to when I

moved to Korea, from Korea to Vancouver, I had saved enough to

finish my book, which didn't happen right away. So I was

dancing and writing, that's what I was doing. And I said, okay,

and I'm gonna go to clown school. So I went to clown

school, and it was really immersive and deep. And in that

session, there's like this process where you make a mask,

and you you you paper mache it, and you paint it, and then you

put it on, you dress it, and there's an eight mm. Masks, and

all eight masks have. Each mask has a innocent and adolescent

and a mature portion of it that you develop, and then they merge

all eight masks together, right? And that becomes your clown. But

this first mask that I did, I went in a total trance, and I

heard this voice in my head that said, You are here to transform

money into a conduit for love and connection. And I was like,

What? What? And so I said, okay, but I mean, it was, I had many

versions of my business. I think the first one was called the

wealthy clown. Not a lot of credibility there. But I but

it's evolved. It's evolved, and I've learned a lot. I became a

certified financial planner. I learned all the boring money

stuff, which I don't find boring anymore, and I integrated all of

the the the things that I've done throughout my life into the

work that I do with clients now, wow,

that is the coolest story. I wonder how many women

listening to this that are really depressed now, because

it's going into winter, looking up that sounds so powerful, and

it's amazing. And I love how connected you are to hearing the

I guess that's Claire audience. I have all five of them,

actually. Oh, you have all of them. Yeah,

wow, cool. When I'm when I'm doing the work,

sometimes when I get into, like, work, work, work behind the

computer, and all of the the this, the silly admin stuff, I

don't hear it as well,

totally. Yeah, I think, and that's true for

everyone. I think, like when we're unplugged, where we're

disconnected, but we're plugged in. The more you plug into the

source, the your heart, your body, your connection, the more

you have access to creativity and these profound downloads and

life leading you really and it leads all of us in different

ways. But wow, that's a frickin amazing story so cool. I would

love to talk about, like, what we were talking about before we

hit record, about, specifically, like, why women are so fucked up

around money. And it's definitely been something I have

over the years, worked so much with, like, it's been one of my

biggest areas. And, you know, lots of friends of mine too,

where it's just like, you know, no matter how many people I've

worked with, you, I worked with my uncle. I worked with so many

people over the years. It took so and it still takes so much to

shift the deeper beliefs around money. So I'd love to start

there talking about women's relationship with money, and

maybe yours what yours was like, But why we're all so fucked up

about money? Well,

I really think that we have to back up first. So saying

that we are fucked up around money is not fair

first, not that we are fucked up. I mean that we

feel fucked up or shame exactly, or we hoard, or we overspend, we

can't let it sit Yes, but

that's what I wanted to because I think that we the way

women relate in the world is very different to how women

relate men relate in the world, and So the way a woman interacts

with everyone and everything is often through a place of

connection. It's through a place of us. It's a it's a place of

we, like, you know, a woman will have a baby, and they're

initially connected to that baby. It's never just them

anymore, right? They did studies where if they gave a lot of

money to a woman, it transforms seven people's lives. If they

gave a lot of money to a man, it transforms two people's lives.

So oftentimes, we share our money in a community, and what

can we do to help everyone else out and all of that so that

often is our structure as women, you know, there's, and I'm not

saying it's better than men, but like, when you think about the

whole story of like, you know, back in the day, like before we

had civilization, men would go out hunting. They could only go

with two people, if there was a whole bunch of them. They

couldn't get that, they couldn't get that animal, or they

couldn't bring home the bacon, right? So they had to think

singularly. They had to act singularly, and they couldn't

get distracted by too many other people's needs. But the women

who were left,

we need to pause for a sec that I've never ever i

People always talk about back in the day when men were cavemen

and women, or men were hunters and women were gatherers, and

I've never heard it described like that before. That makes so

much sense. That's why men always just think for

themselves, and women get so triggered by that in

relationships. And obviously the new truth is mostly about debt.

Well, this is relationships. This episode is about

relationship. With money, but it's mostly about your your

romantic relationships, dating, love, relationship to self, and

that is so huge for women to actually think about that from

the very beginning, like men had to be singular, focused, wow.

And I

think it's a gift that men have you know, they're not

multitaskers. They're not they don't do that. So what we do is,

and women in particular, when you come back to the community,

they had to have their finger on the pulse of everyone in the

community. We would call that gossip, or talking about each

other and things like that. But really it was like to see where

everyone was functioning from, and then you would look out into

the the field, and you would see there was some danger coming,

and you would spread the word around everyone, come on. Back

up, take care of our brew, right? So we always had this

expansive way of staying connected, that was survival,

right? The men had to be singularly focused for survival.

So who created the money in the world? Men, right? So the system

that money is created in is not a system for women. Like women

don't think that way, right? If women created the financial

systems, it would be very different. And sometimes we do

this thing, oh, it would be way better if women led, well,

whatever. We're not leading that yet, but it's almost like this,

understanding the the water we're swimming in is really,

really important, rather than judging it as wrong, you know,

just to understand it and know what skills you need to acquire

in order to survive and to thrive.

Wow. So, so how would you describe it not being

a system that supports women? I hear this all the time with

health now, and I love it. How health? You know the studies are

about the circadian rhythm, and men's bodies are the same every

day. So they can go to a nine to five job every day. They cannot

eat the same thing every day. They can do things the same way

every day, and that's actually good for them. But women are

cyclical, and every day we're different, and we need things

different every day. So I love that analog analogy for health

and and women's bodies. So take us there for money. What? Why is

this system not supportive for how women naturally are well,

I mean, we could talk about we didn't have a lot of

education or rights around it, because women actually haven't

been able to own a credit card or put their singular name on a

house title, since, I think you could own a credit card in in in

the States, with your name, if you had a husband, co sign with

you in 1956 right? So we have had, maybe, I would say, 40

clean years where women actually have had rights with their

finances. And even now, when a women woman goes into the bank,

depending on who you're, you're meeting, they want to know if

you're married. They want to know if you're like, it's still

there in our financial system in North America, but there are

places all over the country that, all over the the the

world, where women can't even have a bank account. There's so

many unbanked people, and most of them are women, right? So the

the inequality in the world, of course, you just have to speak

to that. We just haven't had as much experience in in

understanding how finance works and to take responsibility and

leadership in it, absolutely. But we are trying to take

responsibility and leadership in a world where, you know, you

look at the stock market, and men look at money like a

stopwatch, how fast? How fast? What can I build? Right? A woman

will look at money of like, what can I do with it? What can I

create with it? Right? So there's a different way of

approaching finance. So when we're trying to build wealth, or

we're trying to be responsible. We can't do it like a man

saying, Well, you need your Excel sheet, you need this much,

you need a budget. You need to do this. And when you go to the

the banks, you'll get a financial advisor that will work

with you, probably a man or a woman that's been trained in a

man's world. Yeah, that you have to do it this way, right? Right?

And really, truly, if you do it their way, you do make money,

right? But you're abandoning a part of your nervous system that

needs to be regulated when you're doing it a man could like

a 24 hour system. That's how a man's body works in the health

world, right? They and a woman has a 30 day system. But it's

similar. If you're going into the bank when you're on your

when you're on your period, your emotions and what you're feeling

and how you're going to make a decision is going to be very

different than when you're ovulating, right? So knowing. In

your physical, physical body and how you operate is really

important to lead with. When you work with money, you're not

going to change the money system. And I think a lot of

times we think we're going to change it, we just have to

approach it fully embodied and fully regulated.

Wow, oh my gosh, wow. Yeah. And I think the

linear route women who fall like, who are who spend more

time in their feminine energy, it's like, that's so hard. You

know, they'll get excited and like, be like, Okay, now I've

structured an organization, and then it'll go out the window.

Unless they have like, lots of Capricorn or Virgo in their

chart. It's gonna, you know, of course, there's women who are

really good with with organization and that kind of

thing. So for women like that, perhaps they'll get a different

result. But for women who are more emotional and more more

lean more towards the feminine qualities, they'll rebel against

it like, it'll be like, great and for a week or two, and then

you'll fall off the wagon, and then you'll beat the shit out of

yourself for not doing the thing you said you do. And you know it

so many women did guilt and shame, and we've been taught to

punish ourselves from so many places. So yeah, like,

I don't know how many women say, Oh, I'm not good with

numbers. I'm bad with money. You know, money is full of greed. It

takes it's bad, it hurts people, and it's a way of creating

safety for us to have those points of view, to take care of

ourselves too. So we have to villainize money to make us feel

okay, because the shame cycle, the greed like all of the guilt,

shame and judgment that we have about ourselves is perpetuated

in the financial system, that women are not good with money,

or, I don't know how many times people say in the school system

too, that boys are better in math than girls. That's so not

true. It's not true at all. But the way that we approach things

makes us believe it's true. So it self perpetuates in a lot of

ways, right? And probably the way they teach, it

supports a boy's brain over a girl's brain,

sometimes, sometimes. But I also think that, like you

know, when you have mixed genders in school, sometimes

women or girls are often not excelling because they're more

of a social we're more social, right? We want to connect, and

if you are too smart, you might not connect, right? So the need

to connect and to belong is much greater, even though it's

something every human needs, men and women, but I think for

women, especially when they're younger, they're usually more

emotionally ahead of boys in school, so their desire to

connect and knowing how to connect is greater than boys

sometimes At that time, right?

That makes so much sense. Whoa. I didn't

know we were gonna go here, but there's so many places

we

could be, like, 10 hours, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my

gosh. So anything else you want to say before we move to the

five toxic beliefs, anything else you want to say around

women and money? Well, I love that

we were talking at first about what our inheritance

is in our gender, rather than the trauma that we inherit from

our family of origin or our intergenerational or even

cultural trauma that happens for us that makes us interact with

money in different ways. Because I think that there's so many

levels to look at in order to operate from a place of

alignment healing, regulation and health with money. So it's

never just one thing. So it's nice to actually stack it. And I

love that we started this with, you know, the physiology of

being a woman or being a man and what that means.

Yeah, so big. Do you want to touch on all the

other ones that you just mentioned? So, so the next place

is understanding why we feel out of control, or whatever you're

feeling around money. It's like, this is why all of these pieces.

So one piece is being a woman in the system. So what are the

other pieces?

Culturally, the culture that we live in, I mean, every

culture is going to deal with money differently. If you're

German, I talk and work with German people, and they're like,

I don't understand why it's so hard for you to save money. But

culturally, they have a very linear and practical approach to

things. When you go to some place in like Brazil and I, and

it's like, No, we got to look good as women like you know, all

my money is going into my boob job or whatever to like, because

that's my currency that creates my value, right? But then.

You're in Canada, where men and women are treated very

similarly, because it's like a very socialist country, we're

going to approach money in a different way. So

culturally, what's Canada?

Canada is like, is like, sorry, I spent my money. Sorry. It's

like, don't

stand out, don't look too wealthy. You know, you got to

keep yourself the same as everyone else in America. It's

like celebrated capitalism. You can be rich do all of that.

Canada is no status quo. We take care of everyone. The bottom

line, the people on the bottom need to be taken care of, you

know, which is great, but at the same time, it doesn't allow

people to kind of excel in their

brilliance. Oh, my God. Okay, name some other

countries. If you have there's women listening from all over

the world. So if you have any in the

UK, it's like, do not talk about money. It's dirty,

it's bad, it's embarrassing. Never tell what you're making.

It's very private. That's the UK. Okay, right? Oh, Japan. I I

think I'm not pause positive about this, but it is a very it

has that, you know, don't stand out. Everyone has. It's a

homogenous culture too. So we take care of everyone, which is

good. But I also feel like standing out and saving face,

and all of that stuff is such a dominant social construct that

they stand into, and that can affect how you relate with money

as well.

Okay, in Australia, you were gonna say, Oh, wow,

I got it. I don't know. All of Australia, I think is very

adventure focused. It's

like, yeah, like, it's having a good time. That's all that

matters Exactly.

But, I mean, this is a deeper anthropological kind of study

around money, and I that's another topic that I'm not a

genius in my partner is. So that's

where, I mean, you just did a great job. That was

amazing. I'm like, I was shocked when you did even the first

three. Okay, amazing. So that's cultural Yes, where you were

born, where you were raised, how you were programmed, the society

that programmed you,

yeah, and in majority of the Western cultures, there

are five toxic money beliefs that we have, yes, and pretty

much every one of these you could have all five, you can

have one, but most of the toxic behavior that we have with money

sits in one of these belief systems. Okay, and it may not

look so for the listeners that are trying to figure out where

they sit in it, you can type in the show notes to or in the

comments, and I can go in after and see what your behavior, what

belief system it sits in, because sometimes it's harder to

find it for yourself. Because, you know, when we're in the

picture, we can't see the frame however you might see it right

away. So the first one is, of course, not enough. The scarcity

there's never enough. You know it, it just, it could happen on

there's never enough love, there's never enough time,

there's never enough money, there's never enough so it's

that scarcity model of never enough, and that lives in your

nervous system, and it becomes an emotional pattern that can

seep into everything in our lives.

Yeah, I know a woman who's a millionaire, and

she and she has that it's like nothing's It's like she feels

like she's broke still, because her old stuff is family stuff

and young like it's still there in her DNA, even though she she

has a very successful business.

And I mean, if you want to frame that in a trauma place,

when you have money scarcity dialed in. It doesn't matter how

much money you have, but your nervous system is in fight or

flight all the time. Okay? So you're, you're you're in. It's

almost like your nervous system is dialed into, there's never

enough oxygen. So you're like, like, you know that feeling, and

it's the loop, I call it a mobius strip, where you just

keep going over and over and over again you have to break the

cycle. And there's a whole process on how to do that. But

that belief system can seep into so many parts of our lives.

Yeah,

the next one is money will solve all my

Actually, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, before

we get to the next Okay, yeah, I actually want to say one thing

to the never enough thing. I've actually noticed since living in

or not even living in Africa, because I've only been here a

month, but since spending so much time here last year, I've

noticed that that not enough. Nothing's ever enough with North

Americans. Obviously, it's probably most people in the

Western world, but it's like, oh, they're never satisfied with

their meal. It's like, not good enough. Go out for dinner. It's

not good enough for this. There's always something wrong,

like, or I need another Amazon delivery, or I need another.

Like, it always more more, more I need. I need to put more

things on my calendar. I need to be busier. It's like, nothing

ever is enough. And then here in Africa. I meet people who have

nothing, and there's, it's like they have more than enough, like

they're so grounded and regulated. And there's this like

gratitude. There's this appreciation for everything they

have. I gave my friend a book, and he, he almost cried, like

was on the verge of crying. It was like, Oh my God. And it was

so blown away by getting a gift, and it was like the most

meaningful thing in the world to him. And I was like, what, like

most people would be like, Oh, thanks. Like, whatever they

would like, throw it on their desk and never read it, like he

read it many times, and it was just like the most appreciated

thing. And so it's such a fascinating thing to be in a

country where it's like a developing country in Africa and

not, and I'm not talking necessarily talking about

Nairobi, but parts of Nairobi, for sure, but Kenya, like parts

of Kenya, villages where people really don't have much, they

live in these tiny places, and they're They're in such deep

appreciation for life, and then all these people in North

America who literally have more than they could ever want too

much stuff. They have too much of everything. And then, but of

course, that wound underneath that's driving them, that's not

enough. I've been thinking so much about this not enoughness

since being here, and

it's interesting that you say that, because there's

been a lot of studies of why that's the case, and a part of

it is because we compare. And when you're in a community of

people that have a similar poverty level or similar price,

like less than they look out for each other in a lot of ways, and

it creates a community. It's like a we are in this together,

right? And that sense of belonging is satisfying. It

brings in the enoughness. It brings in the satedness. In our

cultures, we are always looking on Instagram or comparing with

people who have more, or our neighbor has more, or the sense

of belonging doesn't happen as as dynamic as it does in those

cultures. And when you have a deep belonging to something,

usually that satiates your desire for more, because that's

what we really want, is we want to be belonging. We want to be

with.

We want to be together. You are fucking

brilliant. Everything you're saying. I gotta listen to this

episode 10 times. I thank you so much for being here and sharing

your wisdom. It's not the end, and we can this can be as long

as it is. I am so just blown away by everything that you

everything that's inside of you, and that comes through you. You

are just unbelievable.

Wow. I'm so excited to have you here. So

much. It feels like I want to share so much with the world

around how we work with money, because I feel like it's the

most underdeveloped energy. We don't explore it. And there's so

much it's it's so exciting for me to to dive in and open up in

it. So thank you for giving me the opportunity.

It's amazing. Okay, sorry. Belief two

money will solve all my problems. So if I just win the

want lottery, if I just made more money, if I had more money,

everything would be okay. And when you have that belief, of

course, you're chasing the dollar, right? You're chasing

whatever currency you live in, and you want more. It's always

more more, more more. And that's kind of problematic for the

entire planet in a lot of ways, but money will solve my problems

is a very toxic belief. And if you live in that, you'll see

that your hustle, the hustle you have with money, is what could

be really toxic for your nervous system as well. And some

people's retirement plan is to win the lottery. There are 32%

of the people on the planet that believe that their retirement

plan is winning the lottery, and the amount of money that goes

into lottery tickets, it's pretty evident. Wow.

And then there's all those studies about people

who win the lottery end up spending it all in how long,

like a year or something.

Well, that's another story that could go we could go

deep into that, but it doesn't solve your problems. Never does.

It just reveals more of what's problematic.

Yeah, well, because then it's still never enough. So

you're always chasing the carrot, and then the bar keeps

moving. You never get to celebrate, enjoy where you are,

because the bar is just going to go higher and higher and

higher. Only if you have the toxic belief of never

enough, but if your belief is money will solve all my

problems, then you don't take responsibility for your part in

it. You just think it's money that's going to solve

everything,

right? You know, it's different. It makes me

think of this documentary I saw a long time ago about

billionaire children and how they're the. Most unhappy people

in the world, and they they're like, all addicted to drugs and

like it's many have been suicidal or have killed

themselves, and like, they have everything they could ever

possibly want and they can't even access pleasure.

And a part of that is, there's a whole study on how our

brains get wired from challenge and working and seeing the

products of our be behavior or products of our effort coming

in. And I think, like as a trust fund, I work with a lot of

wealthy people too that never really had to worry about money,

and now they realize they want to understand it. And there's a

whole wealth transfer right now from the trillionaires to their

kids, and it's a movement one of my mentors right now wants to

capture, because he wants those kids to be educated on how to

use their money to transform the planet. But like, that's another

story, but this brain that doesn't often in a billionaire

family, I shouldn't make an assumption here, but love

connection and time with your kids, usually they don't put the

effort in with their kids. They get a nanny, they get to go to

the greatest private schools. They get everything they want,

thinking that's love. Not every billionaire will do that, but

these kids never really get nurtured the way a kid needs to

be nurtured, and never gets the challenge to use their abilities

and skills to survive in the world or thrive in the world,

right? Because everything's given to them so a pathway in

their brain doesn't get created, and the reward system in our

brain creates oxytocin and serotonin and all the things.

But if you're never challenged and you're just given

everything, you're not going to do that. And the only way you

get that is taking drugs. You know, you only way you get your

serotonin popped up, I'm going to take some ecstasy, right? So

there's a chemical journey that we go on in our brain as we move

into the different levels of abundance. And if you miss one,

then you usually substitute it with other behavior that's

toxic, right?

Wow, so much there. Holy, oh my gosh, this is such a

big topic. Why did we not learn about money in school? How

insane

I know what Well, part of it is because a teacher can't

teach what they don't know, and no one's really studied it,

right? Yeah, so we need more people to know it,

yes, and also to put it into the curriculum,

yeah, learn about what you really need to know in life

instead of everything you don't need to know. And

a lot of the work that I'm doing is trying to heal the

path the damage that's been done so that we can do something in a

different way. And oftentimes, when I'm working with people

that have kids, they think, Oh, what am I going to teach my

kids? I have to teach my kids this. And I'm like, No, you

like, No, you don't. You have to do your work, and you have to

model it in order for your kids to see something different. And

some people choose to do that, and some people don't.

Yep, wholeheartedly agree. So

the third, the third toxic money belief is money makes me look

good. So things like resilience, exactly, or you get respect when

you have money. So you know, like, if you come into a store

and you look terrible, or you go into a restaurant, you look like

you're a homeless person, you don't get served. You're

disrespected. You're not You're not honored as a human. It's so

bizarre. But if you come in with your pressured and everything,

you actually get free things sometimes, which is, like, it's

a weird it's a weird dichotomy, but the world will treat people

better when they look wealthy, right? So it's a feedback

mechanism. So if I have money, and I have that watch, I have

those shoes, I have all those things, I look good, and I'm

going to be looked as successful. So, but I have to

look like I have money, right, and that can spill over into I

need that car. I need to buy the next house I need to buy. Like

the consumer addiction of more is better, and spending that

way, which could be buying the expensive things, which could

lead to the firing every time you buy something, you get that

that hit in your brain, and then it creates the addiction to want

to buy. So that's what, that's what Amazon, or all the the

online shopping, capitalizes on in a lot of ways. So it's, it's

also related into, you know, money will solve all my problems

if I had that. Money makes me look good, and there's never

enough. Like all of those can be layered into the way that we're

marketed to. As well, right?

The next one, people look like they have

money, but they're actually, like, deeply in debt, just

trying to keep up the facade of having money. My incredibly

wealthy uncle, like, wears the same sweater, you know, has the

same car forever. Like, is just like, he's so humble about his

like he and he comes from generations of wealth and also

is an incredibly intelligent guy in that department and and he

doesn't look like he has money,

I know, so it's a lie. Money doesn't make you look

good, yeah? Makes you look like you have a look that makes

you look good, yeah,

yeah, yeah. And the belief feeds the addiction,

absolutely.

And I mean, like when you can see how you're

operating, you may not be the person that buys the boat in the

car and all that stuff, but you do care about how you look,

because you know you'll be treated better, rather than

caring about how you look because you're honoring your

being and your self expression, like there's different

motivations by why we do what we do,

right? And the reality is, you get treated the

best when you're like in your heart and your home and you're

connected, not when you're looking because it's like

there's a facade then. So actually, you might be treated a

certain way, but it's still like from a very disconnected feels

like robotic energy.

It's so interesting because it's never one thing

like my partner came from a lot of money and always looks

pressed and really wealthy, right? We go into these tiny

villages in Greece, they charge us twice as much for our meal

than other people. So it's so I'm like, great. I'm shocked,

babe, you need to, you need to wear flip flops and shorts. And

tone it down a bit, right? So, I mean, I think that there's so

many stories that run around this. Yes,

yeah, big time. Wow, that is amazing. Oh, my

God, I'm shocked. Wait, yeah, I guess I didn't look like I had

money. I always had ripped jeans or yoga pants.

But she loves money, and she shares it, and she talks

about money, and she's unapologetic about how much she

loves money, and it makes people uncomfortable. Well, if you love

money, you can pay me more, right? Like, so, I mean, there's

another story that's running around it, but it's interesting

because I've seen it happen. Like, she'll go into a store and

the price for something changes when she walks in. It's weird.

That is so wild. Oh my god, she shouldn't come to

Kenya. So and she's in the same industry too, right? Like she

helps actually say the statement that you said about yours and

hers, but with what you both do, because you're both around

helping women, around women, humans, around money.

So her tag is, like, she wants to make women rich.

Mine is, I want to empower women with money.

Yes, yes. They're so beautiful and so

complimentary. Yeah,

but she's unapologetic, which I love because you can see

in a room the people that reject her because she loves money, and

then the people that are like fascinated that someone has that

much conviction, and it's wild. I love it. It almost is her way

of weeding out who would be her friend, totally.

But also, like planting the seed, even for

people who are triggered by it, it's like fully fucking owning.

I mean, I own being loving, right? I'm loving with the taxi

driver. I'm loving with the coffee like with every person I

meet, even if they seem uncomfortable. It's like, I'm

gonna blast them with care, bear, love, and that's my lane.

That's my thing. Her thing is money. So she blasts people with

money and shocks them whatever. And even if they're

uncomfortable with it, she's planting seeds. Like,

subconsciously, she's like, part of their spirit team that's

like, you know, planting seeds to wake them up on some level,

because to own it. I mean, especially as a woman, it's so

cool. I also, sidebar, I want to have dinner with you guys when

I'm in Vancouver in August. I've never met her, Victoria. We're

in Victoria. Yeah, our Victoria. But, yeah, I'll come over to

Victoria. But I have another friend that's there too, but

especially a woman around money to own it, not, not in an

insecure like trying to prove myself kind of way, but from the

rooted, sovereign woman, that's like, yeah, I love money. Like,

it's like, there's such a big difference between, like,

proving yourself around money, but or actually being rooted in

it and owning it fully. That is so fucking cool.

Yeah, it is wonderful to be around. And I mean, when I

was re patterning my belief systems, my toxic belief

systems. I did a whole cleaning house of people in my life and

and then she showed up, and she triggered the hell out of me

around money stuff. And it was like, because I do this work,

I'm like, Whoa. I didn't even know. I had that feeling. I

didn't know. And so it would just. Unfolded all of my my

resistances to wealth and now standing in it, it's like

there's this beauty, there's this rich, gorgeous abundance

that now we can invite other women into. Yes, my purpose is

to let people feel seen, and hers is to be unapologetic about

wealth. So when we marry those two with people, it's like when

their nervous system gets out, I help them get back in line so

that they can embody the identity of what it does it mean

to be a wealthy woman.

I love it. And not just a woman who has money, but

a wealthy woman, because it's so much deeper and richer and so

much more than you can have all the money in the world. But if

you're not connected in that way, it's not the same thing. So

not about what's in your bank account, by the way. No,

exactly, exactly. And I can just see like, this is like the this

is what I'm talking about every frickin week on this podcast. Is

the divine orchestration life has an there's a natural

intelligence to the life that your soul is meant to

experience. And just seeing how even connected to your purpose

in the world and your mission, and how this woman had to come

into your life and crack you open and trigger you and all

your stuff. Like, often women in relationships are like, I'm

triggered. I gotta run. And it's like, the gift of the trigger.

She triggers all your shit open. And then you, and you're a money

coach and a money teacher, and then you get to see all your

blind spots and where your next level is not because you're not

already an epic money teacher, because you were back then I

worked with you, but because you needed to rise to your next

level to have a bigger impact in the world. And you couldn't have

that big of an impact in world, the world, if you didn't have

this mirror show up and reflect all those blind spots. So then

you could then own it on a bigger scale. Wow,

yeah, I'm in my lane.

So cool. Okay, what's the fourth toxic belief

I have to work hard for money, or I have money requires

sacrifice, you know, like, in order to have it, I have to give

something up in that regard. And Mo, I think that's the operating

system of a lot of people, you know. And in truth, when you

start to have a dynamic relationship with money, you

have to

work less totally.

And when you think you have to work hard, and I think working

hard for money comes from like, like, especially in North

America, you know, immigrants that have come here, they work

the land. They they they work hard to survive, to get out of

where they were coming from, to create a life and their family.

It's baked in hard work is baked into North America in a lot of

ways,

and it's baked into Africa. It's baked in all over

the world because they just work hard, and they don't make as

they make way less money, but they work really, really,

really, really hard to make their their more in survival.

And obviously, not again, not Nairobi, not all of Africa, but

but all over the world, whether it's developing countries or

Western countries or anything in between, we, I think we've all

been taught to work hard for money,

and we're rewarded for working hard. Yeah, right. Oh,

you worked hard. How often do you say, So, how was your day?

Oh, it was so full. I worked really hard. Good for you,

yeah, yeah, if you were

sitting around here, amazing, yeah. If you're sitting around

idly meditating and just doing your own thing and following the

flow, people like, well, that must be nice, like, you know

what I mean?

Yeah, and I realized, as you're talking

about this one, I'm like, oh my god, I used to work insanely

hard and make no barely any money, and now I make really

great money, and I barely work meditate and sing and frolic and

dance and and hang out and just do what I love like, and I think

that like when we're on purpose too,

well, not even, not even I will have to counter that

a little bit, because if you can get rid of that belief first of

all, then you will open your eyes to the possibilities of

where easy money can come to you, right? And then when you

see the easy money, and you have the education, the literacy, the

know how, and that's also what we teach, then you can leverage

the money to create more space. So you may not be on purpose,

yet you're just, you're just paying attention. You're not

operating from the working hard, because people are on purpose

and work freaking hard, Oh, for

sure time. Yeah, most of the people I know don't

have I'm also a projector, so I've just designed it very

intentionally this way. And living on the other side of the

world gives me like all day till 3pm to not do anything, and

other than what. Feels pleasurable for me. So there's,

like, a lot of variables that have allowed me to create a

life, or that have supported me to create a life that is like

that. But it's not necessarily just because I'm on purpose. So

yeah, that's important. And

I also think that when, like, if I'm in the zone

creating and learning and I'm working 12 hours a day, that's

not hard. It's not hard for me. It's life giving. I'm not tired.

I'm fully turned on. So it doesn't mean that letting go,

because am I that's the big that working hard was my big money,

toxic belief, and it was baked in. And I think on some level,

it is still and I notice it so it's not like, all of a sudden

everything's better. Like, I'm still a work in progress in lots

of ways, but I can notice things faster.

Yes, are you a

generator? I'm a manifest generator.

I was actually, that was my first thought. Peter

was like, 12 hours, and it feels so pleasurable. I'm like, that's

your sacral in a couple episodes, we'll talk about human

design, around purpose and all of this stuff, because that's so

funny. Because as a projector, I'm like, ooh, three calls a

day, and that's it. And like, oh, that I'm satiated. And like,

doing writing and stuff also is a different muscle. So it's,

it's, it doesn't feel like work, but it's but. But as a

projector, I'm like, great to spend many hours not doing those

things, and then I have so much capacity for those things, but

not in the same way. It's like, not 12 hours. We're all so

different ever. That's exactly it. That's why I love Human

Design and astrology and all these, these tools to understand

our systems and blueprints, because we are all so different.

Yeah, totally, totally. Am I? Like, I in the human

design? My sister is, like, industrious. Is her kind one of

the pieces, and I'm the vessel for love. And so we talk

vessel for love. Oh, yeah, yeah, wow, that's amazing.

And and her husband is a vessel for love, too, and so she's

industrious. So she just gets so excited about stripping paint on

a furniture and making the furniture look beautiful, or

crafting, or she'll spend hours and hours and hours in a

crafting session. And I'm like, Oh, no way. I want to connect

with people. I want to show love. I want

to, oh my God, that's the right angle cross or

Left Angle cross. The purpose, yeah, that's so cool. I'm the

right angle cross of explanation, which is, oh wow,

taking ideas that are and concepts that have been a

certain way, and flipping them on its head and be and then

people will think like bizarre or genius freak to genius, they

call it. It's like, either, like, whoa, that's genius. That

idea, like that, that thing that we've all been seeing this way

is actually that way. And what this whole podcast

is, yeah, the new

truth, yeah. Or they think I'm a freak, which is

cool.

It's beautiful. I love it.

So the last, one

was that the second one, that was the the final one,

there's one more. So the first was not enough. The

second was, money will solve all your problems. The third was,

money makes you look good. The fourth is, I have to work hard

for money, or money takes sacrifice, basically. And then

the last one is money is bad. So money does bad things. If I had

too much money, I would be bad. I don't want to have money,

because then I will be perceived as bad. So that's the you know,

you look out in the world people that just want more and more and

more, and they're destroying the planet, and they're destroying

everything, and it's all about money, and money motivates

people to make these choices. When we have that belief, it can

show up in a lot of ways, that when money comes into our life,

we become bad, right? Or you reject money because you don't

want to be perceived as bad, or you don't believe that people

with money do good things, and you do good things, so you're

maintaining your identity with money is bad.

That was so many the clients that Callan and

Justin so So Brenda and I met those of you have been here a

long time have heard me talk about Callan and Justin. I

mentioned Justin a little bit ago were the amazing humans I

used to work with when I used to teach business. And Brenda was

one of our clients. She worked with us around her business

stuff, and so that's where we met to begin with. And I

remember back in the day, Callan used to talk so much about that

from stage, about the the money, money scarcity thing, but also

about the money is the it's bad, like all the because so many of

our clients were healers, and, like holistic practitioners and

all, like these big, caring hearts, hearted people. And they

were like, Oh no, no, I don't want to charge that. Much

because that's bad. Like, no, no, I don't want to. And there

was just this, like, shame and guilt around sort of that hippie

granola, like, I gotta have, if I have less, I'll be loved more,

kind of thing.

Yeah, it's so true, and it's so it's generally in the

healing health care solopreneurs that are doing coaching or

spiritual counseling or things like that that often is

something that people will face on what are they going to

charge? You know, they don't want to charge too much, because

then people will think they're greedy. They don't know their

worth too in that regard, and they don't really feel like

money should be a part of healing. And in I do a lot of

archetypal work, and that is often the the artist archetype

that yes, starving artist, yeah, the starving artist, or the

artist that has a real channeled connection with source, and can

really feel the divine guidance. But this 3d world is really hard

for them, so they don't know how to do the 3d world very well,

and they fail a lot at it. And so there's this relationship

with the physical and the spiritual that needs to have.

The physical world is just as spiritual as the divine, right?

So there's a dance in between those two, as we start to marry

into, you know, the magic that money can create. It is really

magical. Actually, it is very spiritual. I mean, I have, like,

I think I'm in a poly relationship with Jen, me and

the Dow Jones, oh my god. Like we wake up and she talks about

it, she shares about it, and I it's like the the the she has

her finger on the pulse of what the planet is doing financially,

too. So it's really, really spiritual too, because you're

seeing the energy of how finance is moving in the world, and

someone makes an emotional decision here, it affects this

and like, so it's so interconnected.

Oh my god, it's so beautiful. This is so

revolutionary. Everything you're saying. And I just like, how

fucking cool is your relationship. Can I come live

with you guys for a couple of weeks and I'm home and I'll just

like, soak it up. Is so powerful and and so really revolutionary.

Like, money is magical. Can you imagine? Like, how many people,

even, you know, who are great with money? They have, like,

401, K, or whatever those things are called. That's an American

term. But, like, the they have, the the houses, the stocks, the

whatever, all the things, and they're crushing it at it, but

still don't have a connection to it. It's still like, very

militant and and very matter of fact, and checking boxes, and

they're like, Yep, okay, I have security because I was told to

have security in the future, because my parents went through

the war or whatever. Like, it's like they were taught to her

grandparents, I guess. Well, no, I'm talking to my generation.

Guess there's everyone here, but it like there's still no

connection, and to hear you even speak the words money is

magical, and watching your face like, can you imagine believing

that for everyone listening like, can you imagine waking up

and being like, excited about the money and your relationship

to money and the magic that it is and brings and that you get

to experience in having this connection and the

interconnectedness to spirituality. I mean, just this

is massive, so big.

Yeah, I love it. I love talking about it. It could go

into depth on so many different levels around it. My thing that

I'm super excited about right now, and I think I mentioned it

before, about the book that i The Lost synapse, that I wrote,

yes, like, when I don't know if we did it on the podcast, but

when you and I were talking about it, I did this, like,

process, and by the end of the process, when I completed it, I

just had to write the book. I was writing, like, three, 4000

words a day. It was a download. It came through. It was time. I

had to do it, right? So I followed that. But the process

that I did before, I didn't. Can I share a little bit about that?

Yeah, and this leads into the the course that I'm running in

November. But, and I know it's today, is 1111, when you put the

podcast up, right?

Yeah, oh yeah, the magic of that. It's 11. Yeah,

this episode I pre planned, and Brenda's gonna tell you about an

amazing program that she has coming up this week. And I pre

planned without knowing she had any programs. I pre planned for

her episode to be 1111 not knowing it was 1111 I was just

November 11, and I put it in the calendar, didn't even think

about the magic number. And then you tell me your course comes

out on the 15th, and I'm like, what? Wait, that is the week I

chose for your episode. Like. I know, and honestly, the magic,

it's unbelievable, and to be safe, just to say about

1111 This is, of course, many people know it's an angel

number. It's a number of it's very auspicious. It's got so

many interpretations around it, but it's the 1111. Follows me

around twice a day, like I see it all the time. It's always

there for me. And when I was doing this process about my

seven generations of ancestors, I was doing this whole healing

of my seven generations, and I had a rock for each one of them.

So I had 126 rocks, 127 because I was one of them. And every day

I would go deep into meditation. I do a whole process on healing

my ancestors, and it was hard work. I was on my knees,

bawling. I download their stories. It was intense, and I

needed to call in reinforcements. I had some

hypnotherapy people that helped me go through things, because

there was black magic, there were curses, there were all this

stuff that I really needed to unfold. And throughout the

journey with each one of the ancestors, I would ask, Do you

know anything about the money web that you can share with me?

And so they would download these energies to me that I had no

idea what they were, but when I completed all seven generations,

so much longer story. But I had this huge altar in my living

room, and each rock represented someone, and I would open it up

every day, and then I'd close it down energetically. It was the

hardest thing I've ever done in my life. But when I finished it,

that's when my book came through. I had to do the work

with the book, and this course that I'm teaching in November.

It's called the intergenerational money reset is

really a culmination of a lot of the information that has come

through. Because this was like 15 years ago. I did it. I

completed it, maybe not, maybe 11 years ago that I completed

it,

11 years ago, yeah,

it was 11 years ago. It was 2000 okay, I was 2016 is

that 11 years? No, okay, nine years, sorry, okay, okay,

whatever, whatever, but it would be great if it was 11. But

anyway, so I finished this process, and I wrote the book,

and then I wanted to do something, because so many of my

clients were coming, and they couldn't unhinge themselves from

some of the stories. They just kept repeating. And they would

set the systems up, they do stuff, and it would just

sabotage. And I knew that there was something underneath their

behavior, and there was a level of consciousness that they had,

and so they were willing to go into the intergenerational

energy to unlock them. So I created this four week course

where I hold space so it's not an it's not an online you're

online, but I am. You're in the room with me. We really

immersive. We really go deep, and we unhinge some of the

belief systems, because we go through some of these toxic

belief systems that we talk today, as well as other things.

And we really in we do a lot of rewiring of these beliefs in a

really theta kind of place that theta and that beta, alpha place

where we're in that different brain wave, so we can rewire

those things and and then create something new. And I want this

to be a movement that once you're part of it, you can do it

every time I offer it, so you don't have to pay again. So you

get in, it's $97 and I want there to be this kind of like

ripple of people that show up every time I do it, because we

borrow the benefits of each one of us releasing right because

we're all connected. So this is my little project right now, and

I want to share it with as many people as possible. But I think

what could happen in this is that it becomes easier for the

next generation. You know, we start unhinging all of this

stuff so that the next generation doesn't have to deal

with it.

Yes, and you empower your children and your

nieces and nephews and any of the young people in your life

just by being and embodying this new way. Wow, that is

incredible. So four weeks, and they gather once a week, and is

there, like, what's the, what's the framework of the program?

It's Saturdays at 10am so it's 10am Pacific, yeah.

Pacific, yeah. I tried to pick it so it could be more

worldwide, all over, yeah, yeah. And Saturday is a good day for a

lot of people, and it is an hour and a half live. You get a ton

of content and information in a platform, of course, and we have

a really robust community platform that everyone interacts

with each. Other and share. So as some things come up, you

share, you talk, and we have people in the community kind of

supporting you throughout the week. And there are meditations,

there's breath work, there's hypnotherapy, there's a lot of

things we do each week, live in person, so that we can really

practice it throughout the week. So you get a an exercise. And, I

mean, I think we do a meditation, we do breath work,

we do a hypnotherapy, and then we do a recalibration of the

entire pieces together as one. So it is you go deep, it goes

deep and it goes fast.

Sounds amazing. And what? Okay, so what if you're,

what if you can't come on Saturdays? But is there a

recording that they

do absolutely but I highly recommend coming.

Of course, the transmission will be live. It'll

be the most potent if you're there live, but it is available

if you're in a funky time zone where you can't come, or you're

you have something on Saturdays that you can't get out of. Yeah,

and

I run it every three to six months. So when you get in,

once you're in, you come to the next one, the next one and next

one. And you can become, once you've bought it, you can become

an affiliate. So when you spread it to other people, you get

paid. So I want everyone to become an affiliate that's in

it, so that you know, as they share it, they get a benefit as

well. Oh my gosh, it's so brilliant. So you can

even you'll, not only will you pay only $97 to do this over and

over again, which is incredibly generous, like, holy shit. Talk

about mission to change the world, but also you will

potentially make your entire money back quite fast and and

then some makeup. Make a make a side gig out of it, one of your

supplementary or whatever you said earlier about having money

come in many ways easily, easily. Oh my gosh. Brenda, God.

I love this. Everyone. Run. The link will be below the episode.

Do you want to just say your website? Because I'm sure it's

on your website. Don't just say your website out loud, but we'll

link it in the show notes, of course. But also, I have to

be honest, it's not on my website because I'm revamping

everything right now, but I will put the sales page in the show

notes. It's called the intergenerational money reset,

okay?

And the intergenerational money reset?

COMM,

no, it's money and desire.com or Brenda st

louis.com, but honestly,

I don't mean your website. I mean the sales page.

Do you have the link?

Yeah, money and desire. Dot the intergenerational money

reset. COMM, like, I will, I'm not actually positive. Let me

see. Let me check. Yeah,

let's just say, just in case someone doesn't

know what show notes are, they also Google. Like, how to find

show notes, or it's below each episode,

yeah? So it's, it's money and a n, d desire.com, and

then slash intergenerational money reset.

Intergenerational money reset, run, get your spot,

share this link. Well, you can get an affiliate. Can they get

an affiliate link now?

No, they need to actually buy, okay? And then you

can become an affiliate, and then anyone that you share it

with, you get 10% basically, of anything that they buy. So you

get 10 bucks every time someone buys it,

amazing. So, so for now, just focus on yourself. I

mean, obviously, still spread the word to all your friends and

and especially this episode. I mean, this episode is so

valuable. Spread this episode with every woman you know. This,

this, this needs to be in the ears of women everywhere on

planet Earth. I mean, gosh, what a different world it would be if

we were all empowered around money and love and they're the

exact same thing, like every one of those beliefs. I'm like, yep,

women have a lot about money and about money, about love that,

about love that, about love. They're all the same. So, so, so

interconnected. And, yeah, this is unbelievably powerful. So, so

excited to hear how it goes. And I mean, probably I'll be there,

and I'm just so excited for you and happy for you and in awe of

you, like, deeply inspired by, I mean, the fiction book series,

movie, you know, trilogy. It's probably going to be many, many

like, I can see Marvel, Star Wars, like worlds upon worlds TV

series, all the things from that book series that is incredible,

like, unbelievable, and then all of this and everything you and

Jen have co created together, and just even hearing about your

relationship, like, what a what a model for everyone listening.

I mean this, this episode is exciting. Extraordinary gift.

I'm just buzzing like, Wow. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you for doing this and offering brilliance to

the world.

Ditto, yeah, wow. What a gift. What a gift. So

spread this episode to every woman you know and listen to it

over and over again and join Brenda in her intergenerational

money reset. November 15 is when it starts. Yeah, starts.

November 15 today is November 11, 1111, and you're being

divinely guided because it's 1111 All right. Love you so

much, and thanks again, and we'll see you next week. Thank

you.