>> Dr. Terry Simpson: We talk a lot about aging, aging with good health,
Speaker:aging with a good health span and longevity. And
Speaker:we talk a lot about supplements that don't work or
Speaker:to diets that are rather silly. But today, the
Speaker:biggest anti aging story isn't in a pill or a cold
Speaker:plunge or a fasting app. Uh, it's in your
Speaker:metabolism. And it starts with a class of drugs we
Speaker:once thought were just for diabetes, the GLP1
Speaker:receptor agonists, you know, Ozempic, Zepbound,
Speaker:etc. These medications are now being primarily
Speaker:used for obesity. And they're doing remarkable
Speaker:things, not only reducing weight, but reversing
Speaker:many of the diseases that travel with and maybe
Speaker:because of obesity. And since obesity clearly
Speaker:shortens your health span, it's not surprising
Speaker:that these drugs are now being looked at as tools
Speaker:to improve health. Spanish the years you live
Speaker:well, not just lengthening a, uh, miserable life.
Speaker:But it turns out there is much more to these drugs
Speaker:than weight loss. These drugs have anti
Speaker:inflammatory effects, cardiovascular protection,
Speaker:reductions in stress physiology, and emerging
Speaker:evidence they may delay cognitive decline. And
Speaker:many of those benefits appear to be independent of
Speaker:weight loss. So the idea that GLP1 drugs, and now
Speaker:triple agonists like pitoutatride might represent
Speaker:a new class of anti aging medicine isn't hype.
Speaker:It's a serious scientific question. Even Peter
Speaker:Attia, whose clinic focuses almost exclusively on
Speaker:longevity and health span, has discussed using
Speaker:GLP1 drugs at lower doses in select patients to
Speaker:support metabolic health and long term health.
Speaker:Spanish this week, Eli Lilly released striking
Speaker:phase three data on their newest compound,
Speaker:retatrutide, a triple hormone drug that isn't just
Speaker:helping people lose weight. It may be resetting
Speaker:the biology of aging. Today on 4Q, we're going to
Speaker:make sense of the madness of Healthspan and GLP1.
Speaker:I am, um, your chief medical explanationist, Dr.
Speaker:Terri Simpson, and this is 4Q Fork University,
Speaker:where we bust myths, make sense of the madness,
Speaker:and teach you a little bit about food and
Speaker:medicine. When we talk about longevity, we're
Speaker:really talking about metabolic stability, blood
Speaker:sugar control, lower inflammation, lower oxidative
Speaker:stress, the ability of cells to repair. And GLP1
Speaker:agonists touch all of these systems. They were
Speaker:designed to mimic a gut hormone, the glucagon,
Speaker:like peptide 1, which signals satiety and improves
Speaker:glucose regulation. But over the last decade,
Speaker:we've learned they do far more than lower
Speaker:hemoglobin A1C and make diabetes better control.
Speaker:They reduce systemic inflammation, they improve
Speaker:mitochondrial efficiency, they lower oxidative
Speaker:stress, and they improve vascular function. The
Speaker:same biology that reduces appetite may also make
Speaker:cells behave younger. Enter UH retatrutide. In
Speaker:Lilly's Phase 3 Triumph 4 trial, participants lost
Speaker:nearly 29% of their body weight over 70 pounds on
Speaker:average, and saw UH major improvements in
Speaker:inflammation, blood pressure, lipids and joint
Speaker:pain. But weight loss is just the surface.
Speaker:Retatutride targets three key pathways. There's
Speaker:the GLP1 pathway, which reduces appetite and
Speaker:inflammation. There's the GIP, which improves
Speaker:insulin sensitivity and nutrient handling. And
Speaker:this one adds a glucagon, which increases energy
Speaker:expenditure and fat oxidation. If GLP1 calms the
Speaker:system and GIP balances it, glucagon fights a
Speaker:controlled metabolic fire, keeping metabolism from
Speaker:slowing down as weight is lost. That's not just
Speaker:slimming, that's metabolic rejuvenation. Let's
Speaker:talk about inflammaging. Aging isn't just wear and
Speaker:tear. It's driven by chronic low grade
Speaker:inflammation, where gerontologists call
Speaker:inflammaging. Inflammaging fuels heart disease,
Speaker:strokes, type 2 diabetes, fatty liver, arthritis
Speaker:and likely cognitive decline. In the Triumph 4
Speaker:trials, retatutride decreased CRP, triglycerides
Speaker:and blood pressure. Classic anti aging biomarkers.
Speaker:Less inflammation means fewer senescent cells,
Speaker:healthier blood vessels and better organ function.
Speaker:Let's talk about heart disease and GLP1s. And if
Speaker:you want to talk about aging, you have to talk
Speaker:heart disease because nothing ages you faster than
Speaker:a heart attack. Across multiple cardiovascular
Speaker:outcome trials, GLP1 receptor agonist, which is
Speaker:all these new drugs, have shown a 13% reduction in
Speaker:cardiovascular death, a uh, 9% reduction in non
Speaker:fatal heart attacks or myocardial infarctions. In
Speaker:the so called leader trials, liraglutide reduced
Speaker:cardiovascular mortality by 22%. Now semaglutide
Speaker:and lugotide show similar reductions, enough that
Speaker:the FDA now recognizes certain GLP1 drugs as
Speaker:cardiovascular red risk reducing therapies in
Speaker:patients with type 2 diabetes and established
Speaker:heart disease. These benefits are not just about
Speaker:sugar control. Turns out the GLP1s lower blood
Speaker:pressure, reduce inflammation, improve endothelial
Speaker:function. That's the cells that surround the
Speaker:vessels, reduce oxidative stress and decrease what
Speaker:we call RAS activation, which means at the
Speaker:cellular level they protect heart cell muscles
Speaker:from multiple forms of cell death and enhance
Speaker:autophagy and mitophagy. That means the heart is
Speaker:cleaning up old cells and old mitochondria. They
Speaker:don't dramatically treat heart failure the way
Speaker:SGLT2 inhibitors do, but they are safe and reduce
Speaker:atherosclerotic risk. Avoiding a heart attack is
Speaker:one of the most powerful anti aging interventions
Speaker:and powerful ways to increase your health span.
Speaker:People who live a long time aren't free from heart
Speaker:disease, but what they are free from is heart
Speaker:disease for a little while. Meaning healthspan
Speaker:puts it off.
Speaker:Now, let's talk about the brain. Let's be careful
Speaker:here. GLP1 drugs do not reverse dementia. They do
Speaker:not improve cognition once dementia is
Speaker:established. Recent trials in people with
Speaker:diagnosed Alzheimer's disease have shown no
Speaker:meaningful cognitive improvement. And that's
Speaker:critical for me to tell you that clearly the
Speaker:promise of GLP1 drugs is prevention and delay, not
Speaker:cure. And in large observational drugs, GLP1 users
Speaker:had roughly 33 to 45% lower risk of developing
Speaker:dementia compared with other diabetic drugs. The
Speaker:2025 Journal of the American Medical association
Speaker:of Neurology had a study that showed uh, a 33%
Speaker:lower risk of Alzheimer's and related dementias,
Speaker:especially in people who have cardiovascular
Speaker:disease. Randomized trial meta analysis show a
Speaker:real but m more modest protective signal stronger
Speaker:than what we actually see with other types of
Speaker:drugs. Mechanistically, GLP1s reduce
Speaker:neuroinflammation. That's inflammation of the
Speaker:brain. They improve insulin signaling in the
Speaker:brain, they enhance vascular health in the brain.
Speaker:They perform neurogenesis and they may reduce
Speaker:amyloid and tau pathology. Age matters. The
Speaker:benefit appear stronger when started earlier,
Speaker:before neurodegeneration is established. But our
Speaker:goal here is not immortality. The goal is to push
Speaker:dementia far enough into the future that many
Speaker:people never reach it. That's healthspan.
Speaker:Let's talk about ultra processed food and brain
Speaker:aging. This may be the real Ultra processed food
Speaker:isn't a terribly difficult concept, but you
Speaker:probably get the general idea. These foods hijack
Speaker:the brain's dopamine reward system, increasing
Speaker:wanting while reducing pleasure. They're soft,
Speaker:fast, hyperpalatable and engineered to be consumed
Speaker:before the gut can signal fullness. Ultra
Speaker:processed food intake is linked to higher
Speaker:inflammation, lower gray matter density, worse
Speaker:metabolic health and faster brain aging. They
Speaker:disrupt that gut brain access, damage the
Speaker:microbiome and worsen insulin signaling in the
Speaker:brain. GLP1 drugs are in many ways repairing
Speaker:damage caused by a food environment designed to
Speaker:exploit our biology. What about the Mediterranean
Speaker:diet and alcohol? Well now, here's the empowering
Speaker:part. If there is one dietary pattern with the
Speaker:strongest evidence for protecting the heart and
Speaker:the brain, it's the Mediterranean diet.
Speaker:Vegetables, legumes, fruit, whole grains, olive
Speaker:oil, fish. Minimally ultra processed food. This
Speaker:pattern reduces inflammation Supports the
Speaker:microbiome, um, improves vascular health and slows
Speaker:cognitive decline. GLP1 drugs calm the biology.
Speaker:The Mediterranean diet keeps it calm. And one more
Speaker:hard truth, we've talked about this before.
Speaker:Alcohol. The idea that alcohol protects the brain
Speaker:has never been held up. Even moderate drinking is
Speaker:associated with higher dementia risk, worse sleep,
Speaker:hippocampal injury and increased neuro
Speaker:inflammation. If your goal is to protect your
Speaker:brain, thus alcohol is better. No, alcohol is
Speaker:best. So what does this really mean now? Aging
Speaker:isn't about the years, it's about systems. GLP1
Speaker:drugs support metabolism. The Mediterranean diet
Speaker:supports biology. Avoiding alcohol protects the
Speaker:brain and the heart and the kidneys and the eyes,
Speaker:movement and sleep. Lock it in. If we delay heart
Speaker:disease, dementia and disability long enough, many
Speaker:people will never live long enough to experience
Speaker:them. That's not cheating death, that's winning.
Speaker:At Healthspan. If you're thinking about GLP1
Speaker:drugs, work with a qualified obesity or metabolic
Speaker:health specialist. Not one of those peptide mills.
Speaker:Avoid research grade compounds sold online. That's
Speaker:lab reagent. That's not medicine. And if you want
Speaker:to go deeper into longevity medicine and
Speaker:Mediterranean eating, metabolic health and
Speaker:evidence based anti aging, join us on the
Speaker:Mediterranean Longevity Cruise. In August of 2026,
Speaker:you'll have 10 days of real food, real science,
Speaker:movement and conversations that actually matter.
Speaker:Details will be forthcoming. This was written and
Speaker:researched by me, Dr. Terry Simpson. And while I
Speaker:am a board certified physician, I am not your
Speaker:physician. Always consult your own board certified
Speaker:physician and a registered dietitian before making
Speaker:or starting any changes in medications and diets.
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Speaker:right everybody, have a good week. Hey evo. At
Speaker:GLP1's the Mediterranean Diet and not drinking
Speaker:help people live longer and think clearer. Are we
Speaker:obligated to keep doing this podcast into our 90s?
Speaker:I mean, maybe. And like also, what the hell else
Speaker:we going to do, man?