1 00:00:17,275 --> 00:00:20,475 DJ Sir Daniel: Greetings and welcome to another episode of Queue Points Podcast. 2 00:00:20,515 --> 00:00:22,085 I am DJ Sir Daniel, 3 00:00:22,435 --> 00:00:27,215 Jay Ray: and my name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my government as Johnnie 4 00:00:27,215 --> 00:00:29,935 Ray Kornegay, the third Sir Daniel. 5 00:00:31,305 --> 00:00:35,815 This was a moment in time that you literally had to be alive. 6 00:00:36,075 --> 00:00:36,962 You have to be 7 00:00:36,962 --> 00:00:37,190 DJ Sir Daniel: there. 8 00:00:37,550 --> 00:00:38,690 You had to be there. 9 00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:40,160 It is exactly. 10 00:00:40,830 --> 00:00:42,810 We're now in 2025. 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:50,630 It is exactly 25 years from the year 2000 . We are, we we're 12 00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:52,160 at, at the quarter mark, right? 13 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:52,220 Yeah. 14 00:00:52,250 --> 00:00:54,650 25 years into the new millennium. 15 00:00:54,740 --> 00:00:58,160 Mm-hmm . And likJay Rayay said, you had to be there. 16 00:00:58,610 --> 00:01:06,040 There was just so much going on in 1999 leading up to, to this remarkable change. 17 00:01:06,370 --> 00:01:07,450 As a matter of fact. 18 00:01:07,890 --> 00:01:14,520 The year 2000 was such a big deal that A24 Films is releasing a disaster comedy 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:22,300 called Y2K and we are officially at the age where movies JRE are being made about 20 00:01:22,300 --> 00:01:25,180 an era that we experienced firsthand. 21 00:01:25,180 --> 00:01:25,730 Can you believe it? 22 00:01:27,305 --> 00:01:28,085 Jay Ray: You know what? 23 00:01:28,405 --> 00:01:32,145 I am grateful that I am here and we are here to experience it. 24 00:01:32,415 --> 00:01:33,955 So can I believe it? 25 00:01:34,075 --> 00:01:39,165 Sure, because I'm here and this is great and we can have this fun conversation 26 00:01:39,175 --> 00:01:40,935 to talk about this moment in time. 27 00:01:41,255 --> 00:01:41,655 Now. 28 00:01:42,435 --> 00:01:44,255 I'm curious for you, Sir Daniel. 29 00:01:44,265 --> 00:01:49,545 So did this turn of the century, cause it was a big deal. 30 00:01:49,945 --> 00:01:54,205 Were you excited or were you like anxious? 31 00:01:54,205 --> 00:01:55,655 Like what was your, what was your mood? 32 00:01:56,825 --> 00:02:05,395 DJ Sir Daniel: I was a little bit of both more so because I was, um, in a, I was 33 00:02:05,575 --> 00:02:07,635 in a, in a, in a state of transition. 34 00:02:07,705 --> 00:02:09,455 Like, uh, how old was I? 35 00:02:09,455 --> 00:02:09,795 99. 36 00:02:11,555 --> 00:02:11,735 What was it? 37 00:02:11,855 --> 00:02:12,755 I can't even remember. 38 00:02:13,085 --> 00:02:14,715 Well, clearly I had to. 39 00:02:14,785 --> 00:02:15,835 I was 22. 40 00:02:15,855 --> 00:02:17,015 So you're probably like 24. 41 00:02:17,025 --> 00:02:19,285 So 24, 25 actually. 42 00:02:19,305 --> 00:02:19,645 Okay. 43 00:02:19,875 --> 00:02:21,655 So I'm 25. 44 00:02:23,255 --> 00:02:23,865 No, you're right. 45 00:02:23,865 --> 00:02:26,415 24 going on 25. 46 00:02:26,435 --> 00:02:29,785 And so I am trying to figure things out. 47 00:02:29,835 --> 00:02:33,575 I think I'm about to graduate from Clark Atlanta. 48 00:02:34,215 --> 00:02:39,115 Um, But I still don't, I'm trying to get into radio. 49 00:02:39,455 --> 00:02:42,205 I'm trying to just trying to figure things out. 50 00:02:42,235 --> 00:02:46,435 And there's a lot of stuff that is not happening the way that I thought 51 00:02:46,435 --> 00:02:50,165 it would, which is, I believe a predicament that a lot of young people 52 00:02:50,205 --> 00:02:55,785 in college or at that quarter mark of their life start to experience. 53 00:02:55,815 --> 00:02:56,135 Yep. 54 00:02:56,415 --> 00:02:57,055 So. 55 00:02:57,755 --> 00:03:01,205 You're just trying, you're like, okay, it's, it's a sense of 56 00:03:02,665 --> 00:03:04,535 what is, what is we going to do? 57 00:03:04,545 --> 00:03:05,395 What am I about to do? 58 00:03:05,435 --> 00:03:11,025 And then on top of that, the world is on high alert, right? 59 00:03:11,675 --> 00:03:16,815 Because some, some people didn't plan for the numbers changes 60 00:03:17,045 --> 00:03:20,505 from 99 to go to double zeros. 61 00:03:21,230 --> 00:03:21,260 Yes. 62 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:25,490 That just threw us into a whole form of turmoil. 63 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:31,130 So J Jay Ray, there's a whole Y2K theory, a whole Y2K disaster theory 64 00:03:31,930 --> 00:03:36,480 that we all live through, but I want you to break it down for the people that 65 00:03:37,170 --> 00:03:41,460 weren't there and also just, you know, jarred the people, their memory of the 66 00:03:41,460 --> 00:03:43,660 people that were there to experience it. 67 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,400 Jay Ray: Yes. 68 00:03:44,410 --> 00:03:44,780 So. 69 00:03:44,780 --> 00:03:44,845 Cool. 70 00:03:45,255 --> 00:03:49,125 It's interesting that we are about to have this conversation because I 71 00:03:49,125 --> 00:03:53,595 think we're so far removed from it that it seems like a weird thing that 72 00:03:53,605 --> 00:03:55,495 happened, but it really was real. 73 00:03:55,505 --> 00:04:02,235 So I want to start with the number that I think is important. 74 00:04:02,955 --> 00:04:04,885 This is according to computer world. 75 00:04:04,925 --> 00:04:07,665 They did an article, um. 76 00:04:07,905 --> 00:04:11,465 This was a feature story in 2000, okay? 77 00:04:12,905 --> 00:04:22,375 The estimated worldwide cost of fixing the Y 2K bug, according to analysts, 78 00:04:23,785 --> 00:04:30,355 Capgemini America said $858 billion. 79 00:04:30,685 --> 00:04:31,075 Wow. 80 00:04:31,195 --> 00:04:35,425 Garner Group said $600 billion. 81 00:04:35,695 --> 00:04:39,235 International Data Group said $300 billion, so. 82 00:04:39,985 --> 00:04:50,391 The Y2K issue cost us in 2000s money between 300 billion 83 00:04:50,391 --> 00:04:53,965 and 858 billion to fix. 84 00:04:53,975 --> 00:05:00,265 So let's explain what Y2K was really about and why everybody was so stressed. 85 00:05:01,645 --> 00:05:09,030 So what happened was in, in the early days of computer coding, Everything was new. 86 00:05:09,090 --> 00:05:10,650 It was like hip hop back in the day. 87 00:05:10,650 --> 00:05:11,160 You know what I'm saying? 88 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:11,800 It was new. 89 00:05:12,050 --> 00:05:14,960 People was like, we doing, we doing computer things in 90 00:05:15,010 --> 00:05:16,230 the, in the, in the 1900s. 91 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:17,070 Right. 92 00:05:17,765 --> 00:05:22,265 And 1960, 1967 is 67. 93 00:05:22,905 --> 00:05:24,945 That's how we program 67. 94 00:05:25,115 --> 00:05:26,015 That's what year it is. 95 00:05:26,045 --> 00:05:30,405 You, we know, you know, I know that's 1967, right? 96 00:05:31,195 --> 00:05:32,945 But here's the, here's the gag. 97 00:05:33,325 --> 00:05:38,800 The gag is, Those people weren't thinking like, well, what happens 98 00:05:38,810 --> 00:05:42,990 when it gets to the year 2000, right? 99 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,590 So what was the big problem? 100 00:05:46,620 --> 00:05:51,000 One of the big problems was the numbering system that was built into the coding 101 00:05:51,030 --> 00:05:57,355 of the time was using like two digit Uh, month, year, month, day, year. 102 00:05:58,005 --> 00:06:00,715 The problem with that is, of course, when you hit 2000, 103 00:06:00,765 --> 00:06:02,805 everything resets to zero, zero. 104 00:06:03,495 --> 00:06:04,985 That's a mess. 105 00:06:04,995 --> 00:06:05,855 Y'all right. 106 00:06:06,145 --> 00:06:06,435 Done. 107 00:06:06,495 --> 00:06:06,755 Done. 108 00:06:06,805 --> 00:06:08,315 I wish I had that sound effect. 109 00:06:08,485 --> 00:06:08,815 DJ Sir Daniel: Right? 110 00:06:09,025 --> 00:06:10,515 Jay Ray: So the fear was. 111 00:06:11,010 --> 00:06:11,840 Oh, crap. 112 00:06:11,910 --> 00:06:15,570 When things reset to zero zero, we're talking banking problems. 113 00:06:15,570 --> 00:06:20,410 We're talking everything that could possibly be a problem will be a problem 114 00:06:20,410 --> 00:06:23,720 because the system will revert to zero. 115 00:06:23,740 --> 00:06:26,090 Like the dates will revert back to zero. 116 00:06:27,010 --> 00:06:31,750 So what had to happen and this is second nature to us now, you can look 117 00:06:31,750 --> 00:06:35,900 at the clock on your on your computer and it will give you the four digit 118 00:06:35,910 --> 00:06:42,110 year before all of these folks did all of this work around the Y2K bug fix. 119 00:06:42,550 --> 00:06:43,980 That was not a thing. 120 00:06:43,980 --> 00:06:47,930 And 121 00:06:48,610 --> 00:06:52,220 DJ Sir Daniel: so that that really that put us into a tizzy. 122 00:06:52,220 --> 00:06:53,930 There were people on television. 123 00:06:54,660 --> 00:07:00,120 Um, talking heads that were concerned about airplanes falling out of the sky. 124 00:07:00,470 --> 00:07:06,300 And everything was going to, was going to be calamity on New Year's Eve. 125 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:15,950 December 31st, 1995 at midnight, I mean, there were literally guys, do you, I don't 126 00:07:15,950 --> 00:07:20,510 know if y'all recall about the discussions about, you know, um, people were clearing 127 00:07:20,510 --> 00:07:25,120 out water from the supermarkets and canned goods and, you know, make sure 128 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,850 you stock up your, you know, stock up your home with canned goods just in case, 129 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,470 you know, the, the, the, the banking systems go down because then you can't go. 130 00:07:34,565 --> 00:07:39,495 grocery shopping, and then you can't, you know, and, and then you can't get gas. 131 00:07:39,505 --> 00:07:43,315 So then there might be, you know, they wanted you to go fill up your tank. 132 00:07:43,495 --> 00:07:51,075 And it was just so much fear mongering that sent really sent people into 133 00:07:51,075 --> 00:07:56,295 a tizzy and You know, I think, I think a lot of us, Jay Ray, I'm 134 00:07:56,315 --> 00:07:57,745 going to, and I'll count myself. 135 00:07:57,775 --> 00:08:00,385 I'm going to use an I statement and I'll count myself in this. 136 00:08:00,725 --> 00:08:05,075 A lot of us were thinking when we got to the year 2000, we were thinking, Oh, it's 137 00:08:05,075 --> 00:08:06,755 going to be like the Jetsons up in here. 138 00:08:06,785 --> 00:08:08,845 Jay Ray: Literally like all of a sudden, like the cars are 139 00:08:08,845 --> 00:08:10,855 just going to start levitating. 140 00:08:11,565 --> 00:08:13,335 I'm not sure why they would do that. 141 00:08:13,925 --> 00:08:15,105 That's what we thought. 142 00:08:15,205 --> 00:08:15,435 But. 143 00:08:16,195 --> 00:08:19,375 And I would say to that point, and Sir Daniel, I don't know if this is true for 144 00:08:19,375 --> 00:08:21,035 you, but it was definitely true for me. 145 00:08:21,455 --> 00:08:26,915 It was easy when midnight hit to immediately downplay all of the, 146 00:08:27,045 --> 00:08:31,905 the stuff that happened, all of the, the fear mongering, right? 147 00:08:31,905 --> 00:08:36,575 It was immediately, see, nothing happens, but Nothing happened because 148 00:08:36,575 --> 00:08:44,025 between 300 billion and 800 billion was spent to fix the thing that 149 00:08:44,075 --> 00:08:46,875 would have been disastrous for us. 150 00:08:47,135 --> 00:08:51,915 So I think that's really important for people to understand is yeah. 151 00:08:52,575 --> 00:08:57,005 We we downplayed it at the time because we was young and foolish but computer 152 00:08:57,045 --> 00:09:02,415 people was like nah son They saved all of them programmers saved the world 153 00:09:02,795 --> 00:09:06,125 DJ Sir Daniel: They were in their laps clacking away On their 154 00:09:06,125 --> 00:09:08,925 keyboards because the keyboards back then made a lot of noise. 155 00:09:08,935 --> 00:09:10,045 So that's what i'm saying Here's my 156 00:09:10,175 --> 00:09:10,525 Jay Ray: keyboard. 157 00:09:10,545 --> 00:09:11,765 It's a clackety clack 158 00:09:11,765 --> 00:09:11,835 DJ Sir Daniel: clack. 159 00:09:11,835 --> 00:09:14,935 There you go And then and the rest of y'all know the rest of 160 00:09:14,935 --> 00:09:18,240 y'all was at watch night service With your hands up in the air. 161 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,990 Oh lord jesus, you know praying that that lord. 162 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,310 Peace Keep the planes in the sky most heavenly father and if and if it is time 163 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,750 for us to go home Let us go home with you. 164 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:30,480 Amen but It was Hassan 165 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,440 Jay Ray: clackety clack clacking on his keyboard somewhere over in India 166 00:09:35,990 --> 00:09:36,610 DJ Sir Daniel: Shout out to 167 00:09:36,610 --> 00:09:38,410 Jay Ray: Hassan shout out to Hassan 168 00:09:38,860 --> 00:09:42,850 DJ Sir Daniel: And Abibi and everybody that kept the lights From glitching 169 00:09:42,860 --> 00:09:45,720 the the yellow red and green lights from glitching and we were able to 170 00:09:45,730 --> 00:09:49,460 get home after Because Jay Ray i'm not gonna lie me and my friend angel. 171 00:09:49,470 --> 00:09:55,170 We were at a reggae club And and there was a moment where we were kind of like 172 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,550 Standing still like, is everything okay? 173 00:09:59,430 --> 00:10:00,900 I don't know what we thought was going to happen. 174 00:10:00,900 --> 00:10:04,760 Like there was going to be, uh, um, uh, earthquake or something, or the 175 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,450 ground was going to open up, but I do know what people were doing. 176 00:10:07,450 --> 00:10:07,930 Jay Ray. 177 00:10:08,690 --> 00:10:11,200 A lot of people were getting it on as 178 00:10:11,850 --> 00:10:13,050 Jay Ray: they should have been. 179 00:10:13,060 --> 00:10:13,680 Why not? 180 00:10:13,690 --> 00:10:18,120 Because you know what babies had to be born at some point, the baby's got to come 181 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,910 here, you know, 1999 to two thousands. 182 00:10:21,060 --> 00:10:23,320 They gave us some very important people. 183 00:10:24,145 --> 00:10:28,215 DJ Sir Daniel: Sure, a lot of these people are about to, a lot of these important 184 00:10:28,245 --> 00:10:30,945 people are about to turn 25 this year. 185 00:10:31,335 --> 00:10:35,055 And there, there's just, here, this is a short list of, um, of 186 00:10:35,085 --> 00:10:40,215 entertainers, some rappers that were born in the year 2000, Jay Ray. 187 00:10:41,335 --> 00:10:42,605 I Spice. 188 00:10:43,755 --> 00:10:45,775 I don't remember ice spice. 189 00:10:45,865 --> 00:10:46,985 That is shady. 190 00:10:46,995 --> 00:10:47,915 Why are we doing it? 191 00:10:48,625 --> 00:10:48,785 2025? 192 00:10:48,845 --> 00:10:50,285 Why are we doing that to ice spice? 193 00:10:50,285 --> 00:10:53,025 Because she's you know, she she's taking a hiatus. 194 00:10:53,045 --> 00:10:57,415 I don't know where she's been but she famously well she in 2024 she 195 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,690 infamously dropped an album by the name 196 00:11:00,690 --> 00:11:03,220 Jay Ray: Y2K. 197 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,480 DJ Sir Daniel: Because Cleo Trapper 198 00:11:04,530 --> 00:11:05,130 Jay Ray: took her out. 199 00:11:05,130 --> 00:11:06,720 Cleo Trapper was like, nah, sis. 200 00:11:07,210 --> 00:11:07,690 DJ Sir Daniel: You know what? 201 00:11:07,740 --> 00:11:08,560 I forgot about it. 202 00:11:08,570 --> 00:11:09,530 That's what that was. 203 00:11:09,530 --> 00:11:10,690 That was a really bad look. 204 00:11:11,010 --> 00:11:15,150 That was a really bad look for Ice Spice, but a really good look for Cleo Trapper. 205 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:15,550 Yep. 206 00:11:17,110 --> 00:11:20,800 She was born on January 1st, 2000. 207 00:11:20,810 --> 00:11:25,690 She's one of those kids that was born on the first day of Y2K. 208 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:26,590 So. 209 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,470 Yes, Ice Spice is on that list, um, Flo Millie, 210 00:11:31,660 --> 00:11:33,620 Jay Ray: shout out to Flo Millie, Flo Millie who I, 211 00:11:33,620 --> 00:11:37,770 DJ Sir Daniel: I dig a lot, she's really cool, um, a young man by the name of 2C, 212 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,630 Jay Ray: I have no idea who that is, yeah, 213 00:11:39,660 --> 00:11:42,810 DJ Sir Daniel: the young people know who that is, 2C, uh, we know who Halle 214 00:11:42,810 --> 00:11:46,100 Jay Ray: Bailey is, we do know who Halle Bailey is, whose name still 215 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:49,580 confuses me, I'm like, I don't, I get where your parents were doing, 216 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,430 but it's Bailey, not Barry, right? 217 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:53,880 DJ Sir Daniel: It's Bailey, Bailey, Halle Bailey. 218 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,910 And one Willow Smith was born in the year 2000. 219 00:11:58,910 --> 00:11:59,980 Jay Ray: That's a gem right there. 220 00:11:59,980 --> 00:12:02,660 That Willow Smith is the gift that keeps on giving because 221 00:12:02,850 --> 00:12:05,850 her album in 2024 went off. 222 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:06,460 It 223 00:12:06,490 --> 00:12:07,450 DJ Sir Daniel: sure did. 224 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,130 And if in case for those of you who are under a rock and don't 225 00:12:11,130 --> 00:12:12,950 know who her mom and dad are. 226 00:12:13,490 --> 00:12:16,960 Her mother, of course, is Jada Smith, Jada Pinkett Smith, 227 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:17,980 Jay Ray: Jada Pinkett Smith, 228 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:20,110 DJ Sir Daniel: and her daddy is Mr., 229 00:12:20,550 --> 00:12:24,400 Mr., uh, Will, Willennium himself, 230 00:12:25,130 --> 00:12:25,270 Jay Ray: the 231 00:12:25,270 --> 00:12:26,570 DJ Sir Daniel: Willennium, remember that? 232 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,500 The Willennium! 233 00:12:27,510 --> 00:12:28,530 Jay Ray: That was a whole album. 234 00:12:28,530 --> 00:12:28,650 DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah. 235 00:12:28,650 --> 00:12:29,270 Yeah. 236 00:12:29,630 --> 00:12:36,220 It was Mr, um, it was Mr, uh, Will Smith himself, the Fresh Prince, who 237 00:12:36,940 --> 00:12:43,910 the millennium is actually, uh, another indication of everybody's obsession with 238 00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:46,450 the year 2000 and the new millennium. 239 00:12:46,910 --> 00:12:49,070 Everything was about the millennium. 240 00:12:49,410 --> 00:12:50,440 And when I tell you. 241 00:12:51,035 --> 00:12:59,605 Hip hop specifically went gung ho about the new millennium and the Y2K aesthetic 242 00:12:59,955 --> 00:13:05,545 because a lot of albums were based on it and the video aesthetics and treatments 243 00:13:05,565 --> 00:13:07,115 were about being in the year 2000. 244 00:13:07,115 --> 00:13:07,815 Yeah, 245 00:13:07,815 --> 00:13:08,735 Jay Ray: yeah, yeah. 246 00:13:08,735 --> 00:13:16,625 Like, so what I will say was dope about that is we definitely went to the future. 247 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:19,140 Immediately. 248 00:13:19,140 --> 00:13:24,370 So you think of, for example, TLC's fan mail, where you got, you 249 00:13:24,370 --> 00:13:29,310 know, your first kind of, um, you got some AI happening in fan mail. 250 00:13:29,310 --> 00:13:29,720 Right. 251 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,020 And shout out to left eye, of course, who really came up with that 252 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:35,450 concept, but they were in the future. 253 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,160 Um, of course, one. 254 00:13:38,335 --> 00:13:41,425 Missy Elliott was always in the future. 255 00:13:41,425 --> 00:13:43,755 It felt like, but she was really in the future. 256 00:13:44,285 --> 00:13:49,355 Um, during the Y2K era, Busta Rhymes was in the future, right? 257 00:13:49,755 --> 00:13:54,065 So hip hop was like, listen, let's lean into this. 258 00:13:54,085 --> 00:13:55,565 We're going to go sci fi. 259 00:13:55,795 --> 00:13:59,095 We're going to go to the future and we're going to take our folks with us. 260 00:13:59,135 --> 00:14:00,495 And that's what we did, sir. 261 00:14:00,495 --> 00:14:05,605 Daniel, we started, uh, doing all of our futuristic millennium stuff. 262 00:14:06,145 --> 00:14:08,575 DJ Sir Daniel: And apparently in the future, there's a lot of. 263 00:14:08,875 --> 00:14:11,065 Glitching in in the music videos. 264 00:14:11,065 --> 00:14:18,025 There was a lot of You know, a lot of glitching as Usher calls it, that's 265 00:14:18,045 --> 00:14:22,015 his dance now is that he calls it the glitching, but you know what the, we 266 00:14:22,015 --> 00:14:28,105 have to pay respect to somebody who, who really may had a lot of input on those, 267 00:14:28,175 --> 00:14:33,155 um, the visual aspect of a lot of those artists that you just mentioned, because 268 00:14:33,195 --> 00:14:40,490 Hype Williams was a very, very important figure in In what our imagination of what 269 00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:42,980 the year 2000 and beyond would look like. 270 00:14:43,260 --> 00:14:49,670 And here we are 25 years later, and there's some, you know, um, virtual 271 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:55,580 meetings, you and I doing the show just like this, um, virtually is part of that. 272 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,040 Um, it was part of that aesthetic, but I think. 273 00:15:01,155 --> 00:15:05,835 If we want to talk about how Williams and his magnum opus, we cannot 274 00:15:05,835 --> 00:15:12,165 talk about 1999 going into the year 2000 and not talk about belly. 275 00:15:13,545 --> 00:15:13,995 Jay Ray: Yes. 276 00:15:14,025 --> 00:15:21,055 And, and, and specifically the classic opening of belly, I think is just. 277 00:15:22,195 --> 00:15:27,315 Because honestly, I haven't watched Belly since the early 2000s. 278 00:15:27,525 --> 00:15:30,115 It's probably worse than I remember. 279 00:15:31,895 --> 00:15:33,135 DJ Sir Daniel: You're not off. 280 00:15:33,185 --> 00:15:34,587 You're not far off. 281 00:15:34,587 --> 00:15:36,665 It's not, it's not one of those. 282 00:15:37,215 --> 00:15:43,875 You're not going to Belly for like dialogue and really good dramatic acting. 283 00:15:44,095 --> 00:15:45,035 That's not what you're there for. 284 00:15:46,455 --> 00:15:50,025 Jay Ray: But that vision of. 285 00:15:50,375 --> 00:15:57,925 The blue and walking down the hall and you got a crew and black folks look, you know, 286 00:15:57,925 --> 00:16:01,255 the black men looking blue at midnight, like moonlight, you don't have to say 287 00:16:01,885 --> 00:16:09,435 that's also beautiful to like being able to like imagine us in that way and like 288 00:16:09,445 --> 00:16:13,635 glowing and being beautiful in our skin 289 00:16:14,675 --> 00:16:15,535 DJ Sir Daniel: and dimensions. 290 00:16:15,555 --> 00:16:16,465 Let's not forget that. 291 00:16:16,465 --> 00:16:16,785 Yes. 292 00:16:16,795 --> 00:16:18,095 The whole fish Island that 293 00:16:18,095 --> 00:16:20,190 Jay Ray: gave. 294 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,150 DJ Sir Daniel: It's a different kind of texture to the way things looked. 295 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,260 Yeah, movies. 296 00:16:25,340 --> 00:16:26,410 Jay Ray: Yeah, man. 297 00:16:26,430 --> 00:16:32,160 Um, so yeah, belly is that belly was definitely a moment and hype William. 298 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,730 So if y'all haven't seen belly, maybe we should do it. 299 00:16:34,740 --> 00:16:36,760 Maybe we should do a watch party for belly. 300 00:16:37,890 --> 00:16:39,830 We might y'all want y'all want us to do that. 301 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,560 Let us know. 302 00:16:40,630 --> 00:16:46,210 DJ Sir Daniel: Let us know, buy us a coffee, you see the little QR code 303 00:16:46,210 --> 00:16:49,110 there in the corner, buy us a coffee and let us know why you're sipping 304 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:56,900 it, should we do a watch party for Belly, it's, it's really superior. 305 00:16:57,595 --> 00:16:59,055 Beautiful to look at. 306 00:16:59,185 --> 00:16:59,415 Yeah. 307 00:16:59,485 --> 00:17:00,235 I love it. 308 00:17:00,235 --> 00:17:05,445 It's got some really funny scenes, but I think what the culmination of the 309 00:17:05,445 --> 00:17:08,475 movie, it does happen on New Year's Eve. 310 00:17:08,535 --> 00:17:08,805 Yeah. 311 00:17:08,855 --> 00:17:14,275 1999 going into the new millennium, which I, let me tell you something. 312 00:17:15,225 --> 00:17:21,995 People were ready to party As we should have 31st 1999 And if y'all don't know 313 00:17:21,995 --> 00:17:27,125 i've mentioned this before I was working at hmv record store Um during this time 314 00:17:27,125 --> 00:17:33,905 i've been working working there for three years And I can honestly tell you that 315 00:17:34,015 --> 00:17:40,285 Maybe towards the the second quarter of the year A lot of people we started to see 316 00:17:40,335 --> 00:17:50,050 this boost of people coming in You Asking for Prince's 1999 album, whether it's CD, 317 00:17:50,050 --> 00:17:53,060 whatever people were, do you have 1999? 318 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,670 And then as we got closer, like December. 319 00:17:57,285 --> 00:18:01,215 Of 99, all the people were, they were like, we've got, I've got to 320 00:18:01,225 --> 00:18:07,175 have it because I got to drop this in New Year's Eve, you know, 1999. 321 00:18:07,375 --> 00:18:08,325 Yeah, man. 322 00:18:08,495 --> 00:18:12,885 So it was like Prince, Prince was like, well, we know he was a genius, but was he 323 00:18:12,885 --> 00:18:16,135 a genius with a, uh, what do they call it? 324 00:18:16,465 --> 00:18:17,025 A crystal ball. 325 00:18:17,655 --> 00:18:17,985 Yeah. 326 00:18:18,135 --> 00:18:21,895 Jay Ray: Listen, he, he named, uh, the three, he had a three disc set. 327 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,070 Call crystal ball. 328 00:18:23,070 --> 00:18:23,670 He 329 00:18:23,670 --> 00:18:24,220 DJ Sir Daniel: sure did. 330 00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:25,170 Jay Ray: He did. 331 00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:30,030 Um, and 1999, let me take a step back. 332 00:18:30,550 --> 00:18:34,480 There is a weird thing about putting a year in a song. 333 00:18:34,490 --> 00:18:38,410 So if you go back and listen to a tribe called quest is midnight Marauders album. 334 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:42,950 Q tip does this whole bit, um, in the middle of, I can't 335 00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:44,170 remember what song, but he says. 336 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,970 Extra P was large professor says, don't say the years right in the song, 337 00:18:49,970 --> 00:18:51,560 so he couldn't say what year it was. 338 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:51,870 Right. 339 00:18:53,860 --> 00:18:55,490 And that's kind of a sentiment, right? 340 00:18:55,490 --> 00:18:57,940 You don't want to date the song. 341 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,480 However, Princess 1999 was made in like 1982. 342 00:19:03,130 --> 00:19:04,770 So Prince was in the future. 343 00:19:05,130 --> 00:19:10,130 And it was so crazy because that is a jam you'll hear 1999 played on the 344 00:19:10,130 --> 00:19:13,810 radio probably tomorrow Just turn on your radio and classic r& b radio. 345 00:19:13,810 --> 00:19:19,640 They're probably going to drop 1999 because it is probably the the most 346 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:26,530 Recognizable song with a year in its title Ever made I don't know another 347 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,880 song that has a year as a title that is as well known as that song 348 00:19:32,450 --> 00:19:36,230 DJ Sir Daniel: Maybe the summer of 69 Maybe 349 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:36,880 Jay Ray: I love that. 350 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:37,840 Shout out to Brian Adams. 351 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:39,250 Love that song. 352 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,260 You're right. 353 00:19:40,290 --> 00:19:46,450 DJ Sir Daniel: It does not hold as much weight as 1999 by Prince. 354 00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:49,800 And you know, one of the reasons, another reason why I think it holds 355 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,370 so much weight or mythology with. 356 00:19:53,650 --> 00:20:00,690 A lot of us is that for as old as long as I can remember, Jay Ray, I don't know 357 00:20:00,690 --> 00:20:04,400 if you grew up with this, if you grew up, if you grew up with any kind of religion, 358 00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:09,510 some Jesus, you have some Jesus, if you had some Jesus in your life, you grew 359 00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:14,580 up with any kind of religion, they were pounding the message of revelations. 360 00:20:15,015 --> 00:20:18,565 Into our brains at a very early start because the world has been 361 00:20:18,565 --> 00:20:20,945 coming to an end since it started 362 00:20:21,175 --> 00:20:25,375 Jay Ray: Like every 20 years some minister is making millions off 363 00:20:25,375 --> 00:20:27,435 of the end of the year prophecy 364 00:20:27,615 --> 00:20:32,770 DJ Sir Daniel: exactly and you know prince Famously says in the, in the 365 00:20:32,770 --> 00:20:38,460 lyrics, they, they say 2000 party over, 366 00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:40,010 Jay Ray: oops, out of time. 367 00:20:40,210 --> 00:20:42,070 Honestly, it was, he was right. 368 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:48,525 Because if, if these people did, if, if Hassan and them didn't program it. 369 00:20:49,765 --> 00:20:51,625 Hey, we would have been out of time. 370 00:20:52,525 --> 00:20:53,195 DJ Sir Daniel: That's it. 371 00:20:53,255 --> 00:20:57,795 And so, yeah, I think really people really thought that's part of the, the 372 00:20:57,825 --> 00:21:02,565 vision, you know, that's why people were, I'm pretty certain watch night 373 00:21:02,565 --> 00:21:06,695 services was packed December 31st, 1999. 374 00:21:06,695 --> 00:21:09,115 You probably, You could, you had to get reservations to 375 00:21:09,115 --> 00:21:11,365 get up in church at that time. 376 00:21:11,425 --> 00:21:14,515 Jay Ray: Can you see the red, the uh, the velvet rope at church? 377 00:21:14,665 --> 00:21:14,875 DJ Sir Daniel: Yes. 378 00:21:15,505 --> 00:21:16,195 . Oh, absolutely. 379 00:21:16,195 --> 00:21:17,695 There's somebody with a clipboard. 380 00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:20,465 Uhhuh . Uhhuh. 381 00:21:20,466 --> 00:21:20,467 . Okay. 382 00:21:20,472 --> 00:21:23,885 I've got two . This is not your regular usher. 383 00:21:23,945 --> 00:21:27,575 I've got two front, but we will need a credit card to 384 00:21:27,575 --> 00:21:28,920 hold those two seats for you. 385 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,125 Can you do that? 386 00:21:30,305 --> 00:21:30,695 Right. 387 00:21:30,695 --> 00:21:31,640 Just go ahead and, but 388 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:31,720 Jay Ray: it, 389 00:21:31,740 --> 00:21:32,285 DJ Sir Daniel: but it was the 390 00:21:32,285 --> 00:21:32,975 Jay Ray: credit card with the, 391 00:21:34,115 --> 00:21:35,945 DJ Sir Daniel: yeah, because there was no swiping back then. 392 00:21:35,945 --> 00:21:36,125 Right. 393 00:21:36,125 --> 00:21:36,695 So it is like. 394 00:21:38,305 --> 00:21:42,855 And here's your carbon, we'll keep this copy, here's your carbon copy, 395 00:21:42,855 --> 00:21:47,695 and yes, now, if you're not here But if you're not here, but by, um, by 396 00:21:47,735 --> 00:21:50,755 1130, your seats can be given away. 397 00:21:50,755 --> 00:21:56,095 So just letting you know, no refunds, no refunds is going to be, and I know 398 00:21:56,095 --> 00:22:01,485 that there's a church that I live down the street from not too far from that's 399 00:22:01,485 --> 00:22:09,015 very popular here in the metro Atlanta area, um, for having those kinds of, um, 400 00:22:09,175 --> 00:22:15,890 you know, um, celebrity, uh, celebrity esque rules and foolishness that goes 401 00:22:15,890 --> 00:22:17,380 along with going up into that church. 402 00:22:17,710 --> 00:22:19,960 But of course that was long, long, long ago. 403 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,500 Those things don't exist anymore. 404 00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:27,590 But yes, I, you know, yes, kids, that's exactly why 1999 has such an effect. 405 00:22:27,725 --> 00:22:34,625 Effect on us, I think, uh, you know, we had a lot of music wise, like 406 00:22:34,915 --> 00:22:39,485 Jay Ray was saying earlier, you know, music was the music videos 407 00:22:39,505 --> 00:22:47,135 were having this more futuristic look and we got to give it up to the 408 00:22:47,155 --> 00:22:51,275 television shows that were being born. 409 00:22:52,245 --> 00:22:58,175 And then new year because all these new music videos and different, um, visuals 410 00:22:58,475 --> 00:23:05,245 Were like videos were a must Oh, yeah this time So there were some new platforms that 411 00:23:05,245 --> 00:23:08,535 came about specifically In the year 2000. 412 00:23:08,655 --> 00:23:12,625 Jay Ray: Yeah, so and as we talk about these shows, I 413 00:23:12,655 --> 00:23:13,775 think it's really important. 414 00:23:13,835 --> 00:23:19,925 Um, the late 80s ushered in, um, sorry, the late 90s ushered in, 415 00:23:20,115 --> 00:23:22,455 um, the new era of the pop star. 416 00:23:22,985 --> 00:23:26,025 So this is when your, your boy bands are emerging. 417 00:23:26,025 --> 00:23:28,565 You have your backstreet boys is your Samantha. 418 00:23:28,805 --> 00:23:30,135 Shout out to Samantha Moomba. 419 00:23:30,335 --> 00:23:31,705 You got a Samantha Moomba. 420 00:23:31,705 --> 00:23:32,765 You got it right. 421 00:23:33,095 --> 00:23:35,415 You have Britney Spears, et cetera, et cetera. 422 00:23:35,435 --> 00:23:41,355 So you see these shows emerging, but specifically, um, in 2000, we have 423 00:23:41,355 --> 00:23:43,535 one Oh six in park, which is BET. 424 00:23:43,765 --> 00:23:46,945 Basically BET was like, we need a TRL over here. 425 00:23:47,465 --> 00:23:48,015 One Oh six. 426 00:23:48,015 --> 00:23:48,525 Tell me what 427 00:23:48,525 --> 00:23:49,805 DJ Sir Daniel: TRL stood for. 428 00:23:50,555 --> 00:23:52,125 Jay Ray: Total requests live. 429 00:23:53,085 --> 00:23:56,825 And I don't know why they called the show that because it was a countdown 430 00:23:56,835 --> 00:23:58,865 show for my, wasn't it a countdown show? 431 00:23:59,255 --> 00:24:02,425 DJ Sir Daniel: It was a countdown show, but they also had like a futuristic 432 00:24:02,485 --> 00:24:07,305 aspect to it where you can hop online and you can go to the MTV website and 433 00:24:07,305 --> 00:24:09,825 you can make your requests on live. 434 00:24:09,825 --> 00:24:13,300 And if they, And they, you just see them pop up from time to time, like 435 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:18,750 such and such in Nebraska wants to see, you know, Old Town, uh, whatever 436 00:24:18,750 --> 00:24:20,600 song they were popular for back then. 437 00:24:20,990 --> 00:24:26,660 And, you know, so there was that, that aspect of the virtual, um, computerized 438 00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:30,620 way of asking for songs instead of calling up to a radio station or 439 00:24:30,620 --> 00:24:33,210 to a video show for your requests. 440 00:24:33,445 --> 00:24:35,595 Now the computer and the internet is involved. 441 00:24:35,655 --> 00:24:38,295 Jay Ray: See, I had no, I, I didn't watch. 442 00:24:38,535 --> 00:24:42,785 So I had grown, I was older, I was an adult, you know what I'm saying? 443 00:24:42,785 --> 00:24:44,285 So I didn't watch TRL. 444 00:24:44,895 --> 00:24:48,575 Unless it was somebody going to be on TRL that I really wanted to see but 445 00:24:48,755 --> 00:24:53,745 we of course on BET got 106 and Park So shout out to AJ and free Legend 446 00:24:53,745 --> 00:24:54,025 DJ Sir Daniel: free. 447 00:24:54,025 --> 00:24:54,645 Yes, 448 00:24:54,725 --> 00:24:58,675 Jay Ray: AJ and free were legends and everybody came through 106 and Park It 449 00:24:58,675 --> 00:25:05,755 was kind of a it was kind of a moment in time and then um Lou Pearlman actually, 450 00:25:05,755 --> 00:25:12,060 this is the first season of making the band It came in 2000, and the first 451 00:25:12,060 --> 00:25:17,060 season of Making the Band was focused on Lou Perlman, who was responsible 452 00:25:17,070 --> 00:25:19,930 for NSYNC and the Backstreet Boys. 453 00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:26,140 And he went down in flames, he, rest in peace Lou Perlman, but he did a lot of 454 00:25:26,150 --> 00:25:28,060 real icky stuff throughout the years. 455 00:25:29,140 --> 00:25:31,960 He was making a band and I think he made Tel 456 00:25:32,260 --> 00:25:33,115 DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah, that was his band. 457 00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:33,370 Yeah, 458 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,060 Jay Ray: that was his band. 459 00:25:34,210 --> 00:25:37,570 So yeah, that was, uh, the premiere of Making the band, which 460 00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:40,240 eventually got taken over by Diddy. 461 00:25:40,750 --> 00:25:41,620 Um, but I'm taken 462 00:25:41,620 --> 00:25:42,400 DJ Sir Daniel: over by MTV, 463 00:25:42,460 --> 00:25:46,450 Jay Ray: by MTV and then Diddy became kind of the face of it, but it was Lou 464 00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:48,790 Pearlman and, but that premiered in 2000. 465 00:25:50,140 --> 00:25:51,010 DJ Sir Daniel: How ironic. 466 00:25:51,070 --> 00:25:53,400 Lou Pearlman and Didier. 467 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:53,460 Ugh. 468 00:25:54,690 --> 00:25:54,960 Wow. 469 00:25:55,140 --> 00:25:55,410 Yikes. 470 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:58,855 But yeah, so those were, I and I. 471 00:25:59,645 --> 00:26:05,525 That literally, those shows really changed the industry. 472 00:26:05,645 --> 00:26:06,135 They did. 473 00:26:06,515 --> 00:26:10,695 They literally changed the industry and we, we definitely 474 00:26:10,695 --> 00:26:17,445 have to talk about reality shows based on making people pop stars. 475 00:26:18,075 --> 00:26:19,735 Jay Ray: We do have to get to that topic, yes. 476 00:26:20,155 --> 00:26:24,755 DJ Sir Daniel: Because Some of them were successful and some of them were 477 00:26:24,755 --> 00:26:30,695 not so successful . So we did, we, so we definitely got that coming into the 478 00:26:30,695 --> 00:26:36,665 year 2000 and shout out to BET May, um, 1 0 6 and Park was off of 14 years. 479 00:26:36,665 --> 00:26:39,725 Jay Ray, that's a, that's a, that's nothing to shake a stick at. 480 00:26:39,785 --> 00:26:41,495 That's, that's a long time. 481 00:26:42,095 --> 00:26:42,455 Jay Ray: Yeah. 482 00:26:42,455 --> 00:26:44,555 And 1 0 6 and parks survived. 483 00:26:44,890 --> 00:26:53,030 The abrupt departure of their big of their main hosts They literally survived that 484 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,860 like that was a big deal because for it for most other shows That would kill the 485 00:26:57,860 --> 00:27:04,310 thing because aj and free were so closely attached to the format but Making I'm 486 00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:07,540 sorry, uh, one oh six and park survived it and they were able to continue on we 487 00:27:07,540 --> 00:27:10,820 got roxy and uh, Terrence jay and so yeah, 488 00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:15,860 DJ Sir Daniel: we got bow wow Jay Ray Bow wow to his credit. 489 00:27:15,870 --> 00:27:17,450 He when he calls himself. 490 00:27:17,460 --> 00:27:17,890 Mr. 491 00:27:17,890 --> 00:27:18,980 106 in part. 492 00:27:19,150 --> 00:27:21,780 He's not being um, What's the word? 493 00:27:21,810 --> 00:27:28,205 Um He's not being, um, hyperbolic, hyperbolic. 494 00:27:28,245 --> 00:27:29,555 That's exactly where I was looking. 495 00:27:29,555 --> 00:27:29,955 I like that. 496 00:27:30,015 --> 00:27:33,705 He's not, no, he's not, he's not capping young people. 497 00:27:33,705 --> 00:27:35,225 He's, he's not capping. 498 00:27:35,675 --> 00:27:37,005 He really was Mr. 499 00:27:37,005 --> 00:27:38,015 106 in part. 500 00:27:38,045 --> 00:27:42,545 Like he grew up on the show and then ended up being a host on the show. 501 00:27:42,865 --> 00:27:46,045 So yes, um, you literally watched Bow Wow grow up. 502 00:27:46,735 --> 00:27:51,845 Um, and one of the things that, You know, we saw 106 and Park and TRLJay 503 00:27:51,865 --> 00:27:58,485 Ray was a lot of fashions Jesus Christ, I know that fashion Is cyclical? 504 00:27:59,205 --> 00:28:03,235 And a lot of things come back, but i'm not looking forward to those. 505 00:28:03,305 --> 00:28:07,880 Um, 2000s fashions Jesus Christ. 506 00:28:07,940 --> 00:28:10,170 There was some choices that were made back then. 507 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:12,900 Jay Ray: We might have the same one. 508 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:14,030 That's awful. 509 00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:20,220 Those big ass white tees that like went down to your knees. 510 00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:22,950 DJ Sir Daniel: Yes, the extra the two tall to 511 00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:27,875 Jay Ray: the two tall tees and then And then I'm gonna give a 512 00:28:27,915 --> 00:28:30,595 runner up when Nelly and them St. 513 00:28:30,605 --> 00:28:36,585 Lunatic showed up with like the, the, the, the, the tape under their eyes 514 00:28:37,425 --> 00:28:40,665 combined with those super huge jerseys. 515 00:28:40,985 --> 00:28:42,055 I was over my life. 516 00:28:42,335 --> 00:28:44,255 No, that's not cute. 517 00:28:45,235 --> 00:28:47,745 DJ Sir Daniel: I, you know, I'm so glad you mentioned Nelly because something 518 00:28:47,745 --> 00:28:50,815 just came to me that a lot of you. 519 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:56,460 And I'm going to include myself in this was, um, was 520 00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:59,260 guilty of this boys and girls. 521 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,260 I don't know if you can imagine it, but I had a lot of hair back 522 00:29:03,260 --> 00:29:07,540 in the early two thousands so much so that I had straight backs. 523 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:08,760 Yes. 524 00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:11,800 And at the end of those straight backs were beads. 525 00:29:11,930 --> 00:29:12,340 Yes. 526 00:29:12,790 --> 00:29:15,140 So every time I turn my head, you can hear cracking. 527 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,760 So that's, that's one offense. 528 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,180 That's one egregious offense that I committed back in the 2000s. 529 00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:24,340 But then Jay Ray on top of that. 530 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:31,540 I was rocking multicolored do rags, of course, how could you, how could you not? 531 00:29:31,540 --> 00:29:35,150 Because the do rag was a part of your ensemble, right? 532 00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:41,180 Your do rag had to match your oversized, um, throwback Jersey and whatever. 533 00:29:41,810 --> 00:29:43,800 Um, law, they weren't even shorts. 534 00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:46,320 They were like short pants. 535 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,570 They were, they went down to your ankle. 536 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:55,120 And, um, not only did, and so not only was the durag, the durag wasn't 537 00:29:55,130 --> 00:29:58,240 always tied up like it was meant to be. 538 00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:06,550 The durag was flared out underneath a big ass cap to make it look like you had, if 539 00:30:06,550 --> 00:30:12,060 you didn't have, um, braids or straight backs or, or locks, the durag was like. 540 00:30:13,685 --> 00:30:17,265 Boy hair, because I saw a lot of people flipping back to do right. 541 00:30:19,315 --> 00:30:20,065 Y'all did it. 542 00:30:20,115 --> 00:30:20,745 I was there. 543 00:30:20,745 --> 00:30:21,305 I saw it. 544 00:30:21,355 --> 00:30:22,405 I saw y'all do it. 545 00:30:22,425 --> 00:30:24,365 Don't try to act like you didn't do it. 546 00:30:25,055 --> 00:30:29,835 But yes, that to me, that's one of the more egregious fashion, um, choices 547 00:30:29,835 --> 00:30:35,815 that we made back in the, the two thousands along with, um, a lot of 548 00:30:35,825 --> 00:30:38,015 business casual wear in the club. 549 00:30:39,125 --> 00:30:39,805 And. 550 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,360 Jay Ray: Yeah, I thought I thought so. 551 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,830 I literally was just um, I went down a rabbit hole about this this thing because 552 00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:53,910 um, I Remember, you know, I was going to the club then you know what I'm saying? 553 00:30:53,960 --> 00:31:01,005 Um, and One of the things that I have forgotten about are the dress codes 554 00:31:01,045 --> 00:31:06,875 that they had the clubs didn't want the hippity hoppers coming into their club. 555 00:31:06,895 --> 00:31:11,555 So you had to look like you had some good sense in order to go to the club 556 00:31:11,825 --> 00:31:16,450 and it was like, Oh, that's why we was wearing business casual because 557 00:31:16,460 --> 00:31:22,350 the clubs, we have to remember y'all hip hop wasn't the culture yet. 558 00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:24,810 Now hip hop is everything right? 559 00:31:24,810 --> 00:31:29,130 So everybody is trying to look like a rapper back then you were trying to look 560 00:31:29,130 --> 00:31:36,080 like you were a nice safe business person or a student who wouldn't wreck your club. 561 00:31:38,470 --> 00:31:39,360 DJ Sir Daniel: Picture it. 562 00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:46,440 The page boy hat cut to the side the oversized frames. 563 00:31:46,450 --> 00:31:47,000 Yes. 564 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:53,920 Um, Jay Ray the vest the vest the vest the vest over the button 565 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,070 down shirt and down shirt with the collar open with the collar open. 566 00:31:57,420 --> 00:32:01,400 But the best with the best was was buttoned up and your shirt 567 00:32:01,430 --> 00:32:02,900 underneath was flared out on it. 568 00:32:02,940 --> 00:32:03,710 Oh my God. 569 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,450 It was so terrible looking. 570 00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:05,875 It was. 571 00:32:06,145 --> 00:32:07,305 So I was going to the 572 00:32:07,305 --> 00:32:08,955 Jay Ray: club we was going, 573 00:32:09,175 --> 00:32:10,875 DJ Sir Daniel: we were going to the club and I'm 574 00:32:11,035 --> 00:32:14,595 Jay Ray: chunky shoes because they weren't sneakers and you couldn't 575 00:32:14,595 --> 00:32:16,505 do Tim's at a lot of places. 576 00:32:16,675 --> 00:32:19,475 So you had to find a shoe that was sneaker like, 577 00:32:19,625 --> 00:32:23,785 DJ Sir Daniel: yes, like those sketches of those, um, hammer 578 00:32:23,875 --> 00:32:25,025 Steve, Steve, Steve Madden's. 579 00:32:27,415 --> 00:32:27,445 Yes, 580 00:32:28,155 --> 00:32:29,315 Jay Ray: Steve Madden. 581 00:32:29,315 --> 00:32:30,775 DJ Sir Daniel: Steve Madden, my God. 582 00:32:31,485 --> 00:32:32,885 I do not look back. 583 00:32:33,045 --> 00:32:37,325 The way I look back fondly on 80s fashions, I do not look back 584 00:32:37,325 --> 00:32:39,815 fondly on the year 2000 fashions. 585 00:32:40,465 --> 00:32:43,905 I don't know how women were walking around because all the jeans 586 00:32:43,905 --> 00:32:47,655 back then apparently, nothing, everything had to fit below your hip. 587 00:32:48,015 --> 00:32:48,275 Yes. 588 00:32:49,065 --> 00:32:53,465 So everybody had like, Like jeans that went right above their crack. 589 00:32:54,275 --> 00:32:58,975 And if you didn't have a flat stomach, you were just, Oh, here's what the girls did. 590 00:32:59,195 --> 00:33:01,775 If you didn't have a flat stomach, what they would do is. 591 00:33:02,195 --> 00:33:05,885 They would have like this, um, a tight camisole 592 00:33:06,365 --> 00:33:06,725 Jay Ray: Oh yeah. 593 00:33:06,725 --> 00:33:07,475 That came down. 594 00:33:07,505 --> 00:33:07,685 Yes. 595 00:33:07,685 --> 00:33:08,375 That came down 596 00:33:08,375 --> 00:33:11,255 DJ Sir Daniel: to the, to, to their jeans to, to go over 597 00:33:11,255 --> 00:33:13,325 their not so flat stomach uhhuh. 598 00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:19,145 And then they would put on another tight shirt above over the camisole. 599 00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:20,945 It was a mess. 600 00:33:21,305 --> 00:33:22,025 It was a mess. 601 00:33:22,025 --> 00:33:22,655 You guys. 602 00:33:22,715 --> 00:33:24,555 Um, yeah. 603 00:33:24,555 --> 00:33:26,055 Thank, thank God for deliverance. 604 00:33:26,755 --> 00:33:30,745 Oh, an evolution in fashion and that you don't have to live through 605 00:33:30,745 --> 00:33:34,715 that anymore, but you can experience it listening to Queue Points. 606 00:33:34,725 --> 00:33:37,415 Jay Ray: You can experience it listening to Queue Points and no 607 00:33:37,415 --> 00:33:39,505 shade given what's going on in 2025. 608 00:33:39,515 --> 00:33:40,685 We might be going back to that. 609 00:33:41,215 --> 00:33:43,805 So y'all might be going back to business casual in the clubs. 610 00:33:43,935 --> 00:33:50,435 Just saying, but listen, y'all thank you for tuning in as we refreshed 611 00:33:50,435 --> 00:33:54,445 your memory for those who were there and informed you about what it was 612 00:33:54,455 --> 00:33:56,315 for those who weren't about Y2K. 613 00:33:56,775 --> 00:34:01,125 If you like Queue Points and you are seeing us and you are 614 00:34:01,375 --> 00:34:02,815 listening to us, thank you so much. 615 00:34:02,815 --> 00:34:03,485 We 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