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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If you ever wondered why you can know what to do, how to do it, and even want to do it, but still find yourself stuck, you are not alone. The answer isn't laziness or lack of willpower, it's something deeper. Internal resistance.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: In this conversation, we're diving into the hidden force that sabotages success, and how to finally break free from it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, and welcome to the You World Order Showcase Podcast, where we feature life health transformational coaches and spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, the Coach's alchemist, on a mission to help

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Today, we are chatting with Cam Knight. Cam is a coach, international speaker, best-selling author of over a dozen books on mental, emotional, and physical performance.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Known for delivering fresh insights that challenge traditional thinking, his work has become the gold standard in its field, helping more than 500,000 people worldwide.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When he's not coaching or writing, Cam is traveling. He has visited over 100 countries and brings a global perspective to his work. Hi, and welcome to the show, Cam. It's great to have you with us today.

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KamKnight.com: Hey, Jill, thanks for having me, I'm really, really happy to be here.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm so excited to chat about this internal resistance topic, because it was just today I was feeling internal resistance about a lot of things that I've got on… on the horizon for…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: for what I'm doing. So, let me start us out with the first big question, which is, what's the most significant thing, in your opinion, as individuals, we can do to make an impact on how the world is going?

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KamKnight.com: I think… The most significant thing we can do is actually change ourself.

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KamKnight.com: What I have found is everyone is trying to change everyone else.

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KamKnight.com: they think the problem is out there, and that they need to do something about it. Or, this is what people should be doing. But I really think it starts with ourselves. Because, one, when we start changing ourselves, people see and notice that.

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KamKnight.com: And they don't follow or listen to what we say or do… say, but more of what we do and the actions that we take.

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KamKnight.com: And two, what I have found is a lot of people who are trying to change others is because they're not willing to give up their own comforts. They want to give… have other people do that. And if everyone is trying to do that, nothing's really gonna change.

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KamKnight.com: So it really begins with ourselves. And what I have noticed is, when I think about, you know, what's kind of going on in the world, and the things that we need to be doing.

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KamKnight.com: Right now, we are creating a lot of waste, and it's really important for us to recycle. I'm just using this one as an example.

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KamKnight.com: So, I live a much more minimal life, not trying to buy things that create waste.

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KamKnight.com: And the level of effort I put in to make sure I recycle. Like, most people get shocked when I tell them, I create about this much waste.

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KamKnight.com: That goes in the garbage a month.

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KamKnight.com: That's because I recycle my cardboard, my paper, my plastics, my soft plexus, because some cities don't recycle soft plastics. I compost, and I do that, and it takes a lot of work. But because I am the one who is

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KamKnight.com: doing it myself, people see that. They're like, oh, wow, I didn't even realize that

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KamKnight.com: This is… could be… this could be done, or this is the way to do it. And when they see me, they get motivated to do it themselves.

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KamKnight.com: So I really think that change… it is a cliche, but I do really think that change starts from ourselves first.

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KamKnight.com: And when we do start making that change, we could start to understand the challenges those changes bring.

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KamKnight.com: And then we could be a lot more compassionate when we are expecting or demanding it from others.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So how did you get into this… this whole change of perspective?

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KamKnight.com: You know, when I grew up, unfortunately, I grew up on television.

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KamKnight.com: And a lot of the perspectives I gained was really what media and a lot of people I saw in media were doing, was saying how the problem is out there, and that

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KamKnight.com: People outside of myself needed to change.

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KamKnight.com: And then as I was growing up, I thought I had the solutions, and I was trying to tell everybody the solutions, and what I realized was everybody thought they had the solutions.

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KamKnight.com: And they're trying to communicate it, or wanting to be heard. So we're just a society of people who are just trying to be heard, one, and two, trying to be right.

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KamKnight.com: And when we're all trying to be heard and right, nobody gets to be heard and right, and then this is where a lot of this dysfunctions is… comes from about that we're experiencing right now. And a lot of these arguments… it's like everyone's just trying to be right. And what's really interesting that I found is that

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KamKnight.com: Most people are just arguing about the same thing, meaning they all agree with each other.

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KamKnight.com: But they don't realize it, because they're trying so hard to be right. Or they're just arguing about definitions.

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KamKnight.com: So, yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If we could… Cultivate, a society of curious.

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KamKnight.com: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Rather than… definitive.

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KamKnight.com: Nice.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That would… that would help, and…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And not having to be right.

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KamKnight.com: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can be right, and the other person can be right at the same time.

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KamKnight.com: And that's the crazy thing, like, it is true. You can be right, and I could be right at the same time.

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KamKnight.com: But the way we have been conditioned, it's either one or the other. And if it's the… if it's one, then it can never be the other, or we have to hate and…

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KamKnight.com: And resist the other with all of our energy and might.

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KamKnight.com: And unfortunately, that's kind of what's creating a lot of the challenges that I feel, so yeah. And that's why I realized that if we're all

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KamKnight.com: Trying to be heard, and think we have the solution, and we're trying to be right.

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KamKnight.com: Then I realized something had to change, and so I started changing it myself.

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KamKnight.com: And instead of trying to tell people.

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KamKnight.com: this is a way, or I figured this out, and things of that nature.

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KamKnight.com: I kind of show up a little bit more open-minded. But I will say, if I am talking to someone who isn't even willing to kind of meet me, I will shut them out. Like, it's…

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KamKnight.com: Not trying to have a one-way conversation. It, but I will initiate something more mutual.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and it… It allows for ideas to come up and be developed, rather than just, like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Well, no, you're wrong. Well, okay, I'm wrong, and I'll go be wrong somewhere else. I don't want to argue with you about it, I'm…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm over the arguing with people stage of my life.

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KamKnight.com: I know, me too. Somebody wants to argue, and I can sense that, it's like, like I said, I put that wall, and I don't even go there, because there's no winning. There's no, trying to get to a mutual accord, it's just…

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KamKnight.com: they want to be right, and then that's really it. So, yeah, it is kind of challenging. And what I have noticed is the more argumentative a person is.

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KamKnight.com: The more they're trying to be heard, and the more they think they're right.

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KamKnight.com: You can almost correlate that to the amount of media that they watch.

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KamKnight.com: And so it's the more media that they're consuming.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Do you find that it's often

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: market-driven, as in marketing-driven? Like, somebody's always trying to sell you something.

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KamKnight.com: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and media… We… we have been so bombarded with The idea that all content needs to…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Have a call to action.

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KamKnight.com: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Usually with a price tag on the end. In…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I don't personally believe the world needs to be that way, but I do recognize that, you know, everybody does have to make a living, because that's the way our society is set up for now. I'm actually an anarchist at heart, where I believe we should just exchange stuff.

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KamKnight.com: And value people for the contributions that they're gonna make.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And allow people to be good at, you know, one or two things, not have to be good at everything in life.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And let other people be able to, you know, look at somebody else and say, hey, that person's really great at that! You should talk to them about this thing that you're dealing with, connecting and…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's just the way I see the world.

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KamKnight.com: Yeah, I mean, you opened up a couple really good directions we can go in. One, you know, it is challenging for us humans, because we do need to make money and make a profit, and that requires doing things that sell and getting people's attention.

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KamKnight.com: And the extent that we are going nowadays to get people's attentions and to sell, it is, I think, going a little too overboard. But again, we all need to pay the bills and feed ourselves, so there is that conflict there.

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KamKnight.com: And, one thing I did want to mention, I'm drawing a blank on it, but I'll go to switch to the next thing. That word anarchy. I don't think people really realize what that word means.

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KamKnight.com: the… Commonly used definition is null… Rules, no law, no order.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: chaos.

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KamKnight.com: chaos. And what people don't realize is

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KamKnight.com: Anarchy actually means what you were saying, like, in a sense, no leaders. And that was actually a threat to the system.

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KamKnight.com: So the system put out this campaign saying, oh, don't listen to those anarchists because they're chaos. But the real definition is a much more humbling definition of people coming together in a way we're a lot more equal.

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KamKnight.com: And again, that was a threat to the people in power, which is why I went this way. In fact, I don't think people realize there are actually anarchist communities all over the world. One of the more famous ones is, I think, Krishnau in Denmark.

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KamKnight.com: And there's other ones. And I've been to them, and it isn't what the traditional definition says of chaos. It is people living in a community where there is no central authority or hierarchy, and everything is decided by the community, and it tends to be fairly peaceful.

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KamKnight.com: And again, it isn't a small…

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KamKnight.com: It's a small… it's much smaller than, like, running a country that way, and so, yeah. But I do agree with

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KamKnight.com: that realm of, like, hey, we can come from a different perspective, so I like that.

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KamKnight.com: And the first thing I was talking about is…

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KamKnight.com: You know, selling and needing to pay the bills.

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KamKnight.com: It is…

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KamKnight.com: challenging, because one thing I learned now about 20 years ago, is a lot of the conflicts that we see in media

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KamKnight.com: It is perpetuated because as long as there's engagement, It feeds the algorithm.

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KamKnight.com: So, if one of these platforms

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KamKnight.com: Puts out an article, and then people are, like, arguing, well.

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KamKnight.com: the person who put out the article, the platform that put out the article, likes that, because now there's people talking about it, and it's drawing engagement. And when other people come in and read that, it draws them in, and so it feeds that thing.

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KamKnight.com: In fact, right now, a lot of people may not realize this, but one of the marketing…

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KamKnight.com: techniques that's used, especially in social media, is to be polarizing. And…

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KamKnight.com: And polarizing does two things. One is that it creates engagement.

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KamKnight.com: And when there's engagement, the algorithm says, oh, wow, this is a good and interesting post people are engaging to, so it promotes that post even more. So, it just gets your message out even more. And two, sure, you're gonna get a lot of people who disagree with you.

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KamKnight.com: But then you're also going to get people who agree with you, and the more polarizing you are, and the more agreement

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KamKnight.com: That person is towards the view, the more they're likely to buy from you or follow what you do and say.

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KamKnight.com: And it's a premeditated thing. Like, people think about it, like, okay, I gotta be polarizing. How can I be polarizing? What can I say?

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KamKnight.com: And then, bam, we're in this place where… Now we're arguing.

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KamKnight.com: And it doesn't help us, it just helps the people who are kind of…

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KamKnight.com: what's the word? Facilitating the argument. And I think if we can become more conscious of that, we can be more aware of not just jump into things.

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KamKnight.com: Especially argument, because we're just feeding The system, or the algorithm.

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KamKnight.com: I don't know if that made sense, I know I kind of went off…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Total sense, and… and they…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: As a platform, the algorithm is looking for ways that they can sell things, because they make their money through advertising.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And if you've got a really good polarizing, argument going, they can…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It makes it easy for them to understand what to present in terms of selling people stuff.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But as content creators, we can have

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We can raise the standards and purposefully

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Not engage in that sort of activity.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: not get the reach that you may want to get, and you may…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But you can make a conscious effort to change things, and, you know, every decision you make has a consequence. Yeah. And you can choose to… I personally choose to make the decision that I am not going to create content that's…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That causes contention.

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KamKnight.com: Because there's enough contention in the world, and I don't…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm not out to confirm people's biases, I'm out for interesting conversations.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And if you want to come at me and say, I think there's another perspective.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm willing to entertain that. But if you're gonna come at me and say you're wrong.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'll just block you. You're not… I'm not interested in having that kind of strife in my life, personally.

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KamKnight.com: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So…

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KamKnight.com: That, and if a person's just interested in being hurt.

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KamKnight.com: If all they want to do is communicate their idea, and say what they're feeling, and that's it, and not really hear the other person in turn, then yeah, you gotta close that wall.

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KamKnight.com: And there is that other level that you mentioned, where, okay, so now here's an influencer who is wanting to be polarizing, because one, if these algorithm, it can be really good for their growth, and again, it gets them these people who are

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KamKnight.com: like, really sided with them, even though there's a lot of people who aren't. And then, for the platforms, the social media platforms, they can kind of see where people are at. Oh, this person…

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KamKnight.com: Falls in line.

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KamKnight.com: on this side, this person falls in line on this side, this person is more in the middle, and then it's easier to not only target their likes and dislikes, but then how to use that targeting to market, their advertising to them. So there is that bigger piece to it.

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KamKnight.com: And I do wholeheartedly agree, I think it is possible to not have to play the game, if you will.

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KamKnight.com: And that's kind of the route that I have tried to take, and again, it doesn't necessarily

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KamKnight.com: Create the biggest bang, I guess, but I think it is possible to…

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KamKnight.com: Be true to who you are, the message you're trying to deliver, And…

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KamKnight.com: And… more or less earn our living with that, without having to…

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KamKnight.com: go into the extremes. I don't like to do that, I never like to do it.

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KamKnight.com: When I felt the need to do it, I didn't really feel too good about it. So, I just want to say that there are so many people in this world

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KamKnight.com: that somebody will resonate with your content. The key is really just consistency and showing up, and showing up in different ways, not just in one platform, or not just with writing, but in different ways. And over time, people will find you, and

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KamKnight.com: When they do, they'll resonate with you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And so let's look at how all this has to do with internal resistance.

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KamKnight.com: Yeah. Alright, so I'll…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: right back.

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KamKnight.com: Yeah, so I talk about a topic called internal resistance, which is the con… which is…

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KamKnight.com: Which answers a question I had my whole life, and that is, why is it, if I want to do something, I know what to do, I know how to do it, and I have the motivation and desire to do it, but for one reason or another, I can't or don't do it?

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KamKnight.com: And at the time, there were no clear answers. The best answers I came across was, you need to have beliefs, or you need to have motivation and discipline.

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KamKnight.com: And what I tell people is that those are…

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KamKnight.com: Important pieces to the puzzle, but there is a lot more to it.

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KamKnight.com: And, you know, kind of going back to our conversation of… You know, resisting something, or…

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KamKnight.com: trying to be polarizing. There is a part of this concept that may come off polarizing.

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KamKnight.com: And I don't intend to, it's just a strong belief that I have. And one of that is that there is a lot of talk around motivation and inspiration, and in fact, that's what the algorithm feeds. Essentially, motivation and inspirational content.

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KamKnight.com: Because when we read something that's motivational, it floods our body with these positive feelings, and then we'll click like, or we'll comment, and the algorithm thinks, oh wow, this is good, and then it becomes this self-perpetuating thing.

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KamKnight.com: But I personally believe motivation and discipline… motivation and inspiration is actually…

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KamKnight.com: doing more harm than good. In fact, I'll go as far as to say it's burning people out. That's because we can get all these positive feelings, like, yes, I can do it, I have unlimited potential, and things of that nature, but once those feelings wear off, we're still as stuck as we were before.

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KamKnight.com: And the reason we're still as stuck is because of this concept of internal resistance.

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KamKnight.com: It sounds crazy, but there is a part of our mind that is actually built to keep us from growing and making progress.

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KamKnight.com: And I call this part resistance, and it's this invisible wall that we hit anytime that we want to do something, but we can't, no matter how much we want to do it.

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KamKnight.com: And then we hit resistance again, and it's just kind of going back and forth, and again, I don't think it's very healthy.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And in a lot of ways, it is very similar, because we have become dopamine addicts. We… and an addict, by very definition, is that they have to keep getting more and more to get the same level of a high.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And so, we… we keep hitting that wall of, it's not enough, it's not enough, and then we don't…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And that we are enough, because we start that whole comparison thing, and if we're not getting that dopamine hit, then there's something wrong with us, and they just get into the whole trauma cycle, and… and you get stuck. And instead of…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Finding resources and ways to, like, move through it without having to have that monkey on your shoulder, like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, you can just go over there, and you can be all that.

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KamKnight.com: And this is a very important point that you're making, because…

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KamKnight.com: In my experience, I find a lot of people who are in the personal development space, they think because they're…

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KamKnight.com: But there are challenges with it, because if they're actually not taking Action.

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KamKnight.com: a person who receives dopamine hits other ways. And so, in a way, we can be addicted. And again, personal development, self-growth, there's a lot of motivational and inspiring and forward thinking and… and, big thinking.

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KamKnight.com: That really, really release a lot of feel-good chemicals.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Serotonin is… is the sustainable happy hormone. It makes you feel good, and you get it from giving.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: instead of receiving, primarily. I like this just as, it's more wonderful to give than to receive.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's some truth to that statement, because you get a serotonin hit when you give to someone else.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it just doesn't work that way. It's just, like, there's… your brain does something different when you receive versus when you're giving. And,

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: in my pers… from my perspective, there are many motivational coaches out there. It sounds like what they're doing is delivering dopamine hits, and… and they're… the majority of their content is designed to just give you a quick dopamine hit.

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KamKnight.com: Yeah. Yeah, so there's a couple things that are going on here.

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KamKnight.com: I don't think it too much matters.

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KamKnight.com: what we call the feeling, or what the cause of the feeling is, whether it's dopamine or serotonin. I think we can both agree, when we receive something, it feels good, and when we give something, it feels good as well. And a lot of times, we kind of get caught in thinking.

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KamKnight.com: But a person can actually shift their mindset and think, oh, wow, just because I don't have something, or I'm not getting something that I wanted, doesn't mean that I can't feel good. There's still ways by giving.

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KamKnight.com: And, you know, I donate… I used to donate a lot more of my time, I haven't done as much, though I do donate financially as well, because I think receiving… giving is part of the whole equation.

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KamKnight.com: In fact, I will say, one of my coaches that I'm working with, she says that at the end of the day, we're all just trying to feel good.

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KamKnight.com: And hopefully the algorithm doesn't pick up that I'm anti-media and doesn't promote my content, but a lot of it does come from media, and the reason I say that is because when we are scrolling through, or watching television or following these celebrities.

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KamKnight.com: And so, when we're around people seeing, having, and doing and being these things that we are not, the more we feel like we don't have, and so we need to receive.

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KamKnight.com: And, you know, I really want people to understand that you don't need to have to give. You have plenty to give, and giving can be done so many ways. One way is financially, one way is through your time, and there's other ways as well. So…

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KamKnight.com: But the more successful I've become, and the more I've been around some, like, extremely successful people, like, the kinds of people whose names that you would hear and recognize instantly.

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KamKnight.com: And they're very generous people, and it makes sense why they're up there, it's because…

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: be really clear to you, and you started out this episode talking about it. In terms of your conservation efforts.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Conservation is a gift that you give the world.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When you recycle stuff, when you compost your stuff, you're giving back

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to nature, but you're also taking, you know, we produce so much stuff.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You don't need that much stuff. And when you become more of a minimalist, instead of having to have the bazillion of everything.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and you share the excess that you have with the next person, then they're not having to go out and participate in the consumption that has driven, like, the last few decades.

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KamKnight.com: putting in that effort to… Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think of it that way, so I'm glad that you did point it out, but yeah, it is. We can even start from that, being a little bit more conscious of the waste that we're producing, and putting in the effort to try to make sure as much can be recycled.

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KamKnight.com: or the plastics have food waste. And once the food waste hits the cardboard and paper, it's essentially not recyclable. So a lot of the… a lot of the things we're recycling, thinking we're being good because we're recycling, doesn't actually end up

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KamKnight.com: recycled. And so, I make sure to separate out the paper and cardboard, and I take it to a place that recycles paper and cardboard.

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KamKnight.com: That's all they do. And so, they're not getting, things that…

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KamKnight.com: And then, there's two kinds of plastic. There's hard plastic, and then there's soft plastic. Hard plastic is what kind of goes in a recycling bin. We think the soft plastic will be recycled, but soft plastic takes a whole different processing to be able to recycle it. And most recycling systems don't

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KamKnight.com: So that's that. And then I have the compost. Any food waste, you can't really recycle, but it can be composted and turned into nutrients and soil.

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KamKnight.com: And usually, it's not at the same place that you would recycle.

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KamKnight.com: paper, or boxes, or, soft plastic. So I go to another area where I recycle that. So the level of time and effort I'm putting in,

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KamKnight.com: It, you know, it is giving.

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KamKnight.com: And so if a person wants to start giving, start by doing that. It doesn't require any money from you, or you needing to feel like you are this one, this, you know, big person that people like and want to be around. All you have to do is start with that.

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KamKnight.com: And if you can… if a person can start with that, it really does…

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KamKnight.com: turn in, like, I have a snowball effect, which builds on it. And then…

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KamKnight.com: we start seeing more opportunities to give. In ways, that is, Easy for us, and…

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KamKnight.com: still beneficial to others. So giving doesn't necessarily mean it has to be just money and time. It can be in these efforts and in other ways as well.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, Kim, how do you coach people? Do you have, like, one-on-one group coaching? How does all of that look?

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KamKnight.com: So, I have 3 main offers. So, I used to be an author of a dozen books in the area of mental performance. Those are all books of mine back there.

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KamKnight.com: And they can get that at CamKnight.com. And then I have a course called Conquering Planner Resistance.

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KamKnight.com: which dives deep into the topic of resistance, which really didn't get a chance to go into too much, as we had a lot of other stuff to talk about. It more or less answers the question.

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KamKnight.com: Why it is we want to do something that we can't, no matter how much we want to do it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it goes really deep into…

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KamKnight.com: What's creating the resistance, and more or less how to overcome it.

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KamKnight.com: And they can get that at camnight.com as well.

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KamKnight.com: And then now I am doing one-on-one work, though it's not your traditional one-on-one work where it's advice-giving or coaching. I've developed a technique that helps people go into their unconscious mind and to release their blocks and resistance at the unconscious level.

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KamKnight.com: And this is actually pretty wild, because I developed the method myself.

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KamKnight.com: And I help people, guide them into their unconscious mind, and we do the work in their mind, which is kind of wild. And they can reach out to me at mentor at campnight.com for that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And you also offer 5 ways to end procrastination and sabotage. Tell people a little bit about that.

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KamKnight.com: Yeah, so I've got a free gift for all the listeners. If they go to ChemKnight.com, they'll get a free gift. It's a primer on my course, and it'll teach you 5 ways to end procrastination and sabotage.

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KamKnight.com: And on the surface, it might seem like just some simple tips, but it really goes deep into the psychology of what's going on internally that creates procrastination and sabotage, and I think people would find that really valuable.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, that sounds so fascinating. Thank you so much for joining me today. This has been a great conversation.

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KamKnight.com: Yeah, this was great. We really went out into a lot of different areas, so I really enjoyed it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Me too.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To learn more about CAM, and to get the 5 ways to end procrastination and sabotage, please visit CamKnight.com, and we'll put that link in the show notes below. Thanks for tuning in today to the UWorld Order Showcase Podcast. If you're ready to amplify your voice, monetize your mission, and start attracting premium clients, your next step is simple. Head to coachesalchemist.com and schedule your free client acquisition audit.

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