1 00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:03,570 Gift biz unwrapped episode 278. 2 00:00:03,660 --> 00:00:06,180 The key thing is to build a memorable shop, 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,220 to make sure that you're building your brand. 4 00:00:08,220 --> 00:00:11,330 As you're building your store attention, 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,500 gifters bakers, 6 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:16,130 crafters, and makers pursuing your dream can be fun. 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,820 Whether you have an established business or looking to start one. 8 00:00:19,820 --> 00:00:22,520 Now you are in the right place. 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,130 This is gift to biz unwrapped, 10 00:00:25,340 --> 00:00:28,970 helping you turn your skill into a flourishing business. 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,590 Join us for an episode, 12 00:00:30,590 --> 00:00:32,810 packed full of invaluable guidance, 13 00:00:32,930 --> 00:00:35,780 resources, and the support you need to grow. 14 00:00:35,780 --> 00:00:36,950 Your gift biz. 15 00:00:37,190 --> 00:00:41,030 Here is your host gift biz gal Sue moon Heights. 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,080 Hi there. 17 00:00:42,290 --> 00:00:45,200 It's Sue and it makes me so happy to have you 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,040 here today. 19 00:00:46,250 --> 00:00:48,620 If this is your first time listening to the show, 20 00:00:48,710 --> 00:00:51,140 you've picked a great episode to begin with. 21 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:54,890 We're covering the platform that started it all. 22 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:55,700 We're handmade. 23 00:00:55,700 --> 00:00:58,430 E-commerce is concerned Etsy, 24 00:00:59,150 --> 00:01:00,470 but before we get to that, 25 00:01:00,590 --> 00:01:02,870 I want to make sure that you're aware of the Q 26 00:01:02,870 --> 00:01:06,320 and a sessions I have going on over in my Facebook 27 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:12,320 group, gift biz breeze every Tuesday and Thursday at 1130 central. 28 00:01:12,770 --> 00:01:14,750 So that's 1230 Eastern, 29 00:01:14,780 --> 00:01:16,160 nine 30 Pacific. 30 00:01:16,460 --> 00:01:20,720 I'm answering your questions on starting and growing your business around 31 00:01:20,750 --> 00:01:22,490 your handmade products. 32 00:01:22,910 --> 00:01:25,820 There are three ways to submit a question you can ask 33 00:01:25,820 --> 00:01:27,740 live. 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So don't worry about capturing them while you're listening. 55 00:02:31,190 --> 00:02:34,670 What I want most is for you to consume the strategy 56 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,200 and the overall system, 57 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:38,750 the tools and the tech can come later. 58 00:02:39,380 --> 00:02:40,190 Are you ready? 59 00:02:40,430 --> 00:02:49,550 Let's dive into all things Etsy today. 60 00:02:49,550 --> 00:02:53,300 I am so excited to introduce you to Nancy by DDO. 61 00:02:53,630 --> 00:02:57,050 Nancy works with Etsy sellers who want to build a thriving 62 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,580 Etsy business and embrace the and venture. 63 00:03:00,940 --> 00:03:04,990 She also helps current Etsy sellers scale their business by leveraging 64 00:03:04,990 --> 00:03:07,630 the power of branding and social media. 65 00:03:07,930 --> 00:03:10,930 Do you currently struggle with sales or have a hard time 66 00:03:10,930 --> 00:03:15,400 finding your target audience or you're passionate about your handmade products, 67 00:03:15,430 --> 00:03:18,520 but don't have a growth strategy in place for Etsy, 68 00:03:18,940 --> 00:03:21,310 or maybe you're right at the beginning, 69 00:03:21,370 --> 00:03:23,770 trying to decide if at T is right for you at 70 00:03:23,770 --> 00:03:26,860 all. We'll be diving into all of this today on the 71 00:03:26,860 --> 00:03:28,150 show. Nancy, 72 00:03:28,270 --> 00:03:30,370 welcome to the gift biz on wrapped podcast. 73 00:03:30,810 --> 00:03:32,820 Hi, I'm so excited to be here. 74 00:03:32,820 --> 00:03:34,140 Thank you for having me Sue. 75 00:03:34,140 --> 00:03:35,460 I really appreciate it. 76 00:03:35,650 --> 00:03:36,480 Okay. Thank you. 77 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:36,990 And I've been, 78 00:03:36,990 --> 00:03:40,680 so looking forward to this conversation all about Etsy, 79 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,500 but I'm delaying all of us just a little bit longer, 80 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:48,240 cause I want you to share, 81 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,190 what's become a tradition on the show. 82 00:03:50,190 --> 00:03:52,980 Here is a way of us knowing a little bit more 83 00:03:52,980 --> 00:03:56,880 about you by way of your description of a motivational candle. 84 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,260 That's totally you. 85 00:03:58,290 --> 00:04:01,920 So if you were to say color and maybe a sane 86 00:04:01,950 --> 00:04:04,200 or some type of a quote or a mantra, 87 00:04:04,410 --> 00:04:05,760 what would your candle look like? 88 00:04:06,090 --> 00:04:11,220 So my candle will be white and the name of the 89 00:04:11,220 --> 00:04:12,750 candle will be kindness. 90 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:14,310 And my mantra, 91 00:04:14,310 --> 00:04:17,010 or like the quote that I will pick is from Jim 92 00:04:17,010 --> 00:04:21,030 Carey. The effect you have another's is the most valuable currency 93 00:04:21,030 --> 00:04:21,720 there is. 94 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:24,450 And that's like my favorite quote on how you treat others 95 00:04:24,750 --> 00:04:26,190 Is the most valuable currency. 96 00:04:26,190 --> 00:04:27,510 I totally agree with you. 97 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:31,470 Well, I already loved the vibe and that's what we're going 98 00:04:31,470 --> 00:04:32,070 to do here. 99 00:04:32,070 --> 00:04:35,370 Right? We're going to treat others really well because we're going 100 00:04:35,370 --> 00:04:37,380 to share with them everything about Etsy. 101 00:04:37,410 --> 00:04:38,070 How about that? 102 00:04:38,460 --> 00:04:39,060 I love that. 103 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:42,840 Yes, But in time and give us a little bit of 104 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:45,510 your history that led into Etsy. 105 00:04:45,810 --> 00:04:46,560 Oh, of course. 106 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,400 So I've been in the digital space now for 11 years. 107 00:04:50,910 --> 00:04:53,400 And when I first started around 2009, 108 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,130 when the recession hit and I lost my home, 109 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:56,910 I was really young. 110 00:04:56,910 --> 00:04:58,110 I was like 23 years old. 111 00:04:58,170 --> 00:05:01,320 I lost my home and my job, 112 00:05:01,590 --> 00:05:02,940 they went on bankruptcy. 113 00:05:02,940 --> 00:05:06,240 So at that moment I have heard of people making money 114 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,600 online. But back then the weren't the resources like we have 115 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,260 now in days. 116 00:05:10,260 --> 00:05:13,020 So I really didn't know too many people in line. 117 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:14,760 It wasn't like my field. 118 00:05:15,150 --> 00:05:18,330 So I started learning about how to make money online and 119 00:05:18,450 --> 00:05:21,570 I don't have the success story like everyone else does. 120 00:05:21,570 --> 00:05:23,520 Like some people do after one year, 121 00:05:23,580 --> 00:05:25,230 they started making a lot of money online. 122 00:05:25,470 --> 00:05:25,990 For me, 123 00:05:25,990 --> 00:05:27,900 it took years to make money online. 124 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:30,840 But what I did was I did my regular job nine 125 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:31,410 to five, 126 00:05:31,410 --> 00:05:35,250 and then I did my side hustle for 11 years basically. 127 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:37,740 And I started learning about blogging. 128 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,020 I started learning about creating a blog, 129 00:05:40,050 --> 00:05:41,550 flipping it and selling it. 130 00:05:41,790 --> 00:05:43,650 I started doing affiliate marketing. 131 00:05:43,830 --> 00:05:47,010 I went to a lot of different conferences on blogging, 132 00:05:47,010 --> 00:05:47,880 affiliate, marketing, 133 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:48,660 social media, 134 00:05:48,660 --> 00:05:49,350 et cetera. 135 00:05:49,830 --> 00:05:53,040 And I almost self taught myself how to do all of 136 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,120 these things online. 137 00:05:54,630 --> 00:05:57,530 And I had to pretty much start from scratch and teach 138 00:05:57,530 --> 00:05:58,490 myself in the beginning. 139 00:05:58,500 --> 00:05:59,360 Everything I knew, 140 00:05:59,660 --> 00:06:01,730 I failed a lot to be quite honest. 141 00:06:01,730 --> 00:06:05,030 I feel more than more than success in my life. 142 00:06:05,420 --> 00:06:07,070 In 2015, 143 00:06:07,190 --> 00:06:08,510 I got married to my husband. 144 00:06:08,540 --> 00:06:11,720 The year before that I got engaged and someone mentioned, 145 00:06:11,780 --> 00:06:12,050 you know, 146 00:06:12,050 --> 00:06:13,340 you should buy stuff on XC. 147 00:06:13,340 --> 00:06:15,170 They have handmade products for your wedding. 148 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,730 And before that, 149 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:19,580 I don't recall ever hearing about exi, 150 00:06:19,870 --> 00:06:22,160 always the blogging for the market and other stuff, 151 00:06:22,190 --> 00:06:25,040 but e-commerce was something that I never thought I could do 152 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,380 because I wasn't crafty and I didn't know how to make 153 00:06:27,380 --> 00:06:29,330 stuff. So I never thought about that field. 154 00:06:29,660 --> 00:06:32,720 And because I was already in the digital space, 155 00:06:32,810 --> 00:06:33,710 like I said earlier, 156 00:06:33,710 --> 00:06:37,820 I was a digital marketer and I already knew about products 157 00:06:37,820 --> 00:06:38,390 and services. 158 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:40,790 I started noticing when I went shopping in there for my 159 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:41,510 own wedding, 160 00:06:41,810 --> 00:06:46,520 all these stores were making a killing on digital products and 161 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:47,270 digital product. 162 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:49,640 For those that are listening is basically something you buy, 163 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,360 you download and the person doesn't send you anything physically. 164 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,570 So I went and bought like a wedding sign and a 165 00:06:56,570 --> 00:06:58,580 couple other things for my wedding. 166 00:06:58,580 --> 00:07:00,740 And I remember paying $65. 167 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,830 I got all these beautiful items and I'm the one that's 168 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:05,030 gonna edit the file. 169 00:07:05,060 --> 00:07:06,590 I'm the one that's going to go ahead and take it 170 00:07:06,590 --> 00:07:08,150 to Kinko's to get printed. 171 00:07:08,570 --> 00:07:10,580 And my light bulb went up and I was like, 172 00:07:10,610 --> 00:07:12,350 huh, I had an aha moment. 173 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:13,460 And I was like, 174 00:07:13,460 --> 00:07:15,860 I wonder if I could start an Etsy store. 175 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,140 And because I wasn't experienced, 176 00:07:18,140 --> 00:07:18,680 like I said, 177 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,220 with anything e-commerce or digital products or crafty, 178 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:26,180 I actually started selling quotes with word. 179 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,360 So I would type in a quote using word document. 180 00:07:29,390 --> 00:07:30,740 I would save it as a JPEG. 181 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:32,240 I built my first store. 182 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,550 I did it as a case study for my blog on 183 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:35,900 how to make money on ECC. 184 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:40,340 And luckily the first year without experience and with tons of 185 00:07:40,340 --> 00:07:42,710 mistakes, I made a little bit over 21,000 186 00:07:42,710 --> 00:07:43,220 on Axiom. 187 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:45,350 That's kind of how it started with XD and me. 188 00:07:45,910 --> 00:07:49,450 I really liked that you shared your story because I think 189 00:07:49,450 --> 00:07:53,140 your story is more similar to how lots of people start 190 00:07:53,140 --> 00:07:53,920 out. You know? 191 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:54,130 I mean, 192 00:07:54,130 --> 00:07:54,880 let's face it. 193 00:07:54,910 --> 00:07:57,190 There are those stories where someone goes on and makes a 194 00:07:57,190 --> 00:07:58,930 killing right away. 195 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,590 But there are more people like you and I who try 196 00:08:02,590 --> 00:08:05,230 something, you kind of stumble into things. 197 00:08:06,220 --> 00:08:07,390 Exactly. That's how I feel. 198 00:08:07,450 --> 00:08:08,500 Yeah. Like if first off, 199 00:08:08,530 --> 00:08:10,690 if the recession would have never happened, 200 00:08:10,750 --> 00:08:12,850 you might've been on a totally different course. 201 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:14,980 You have to follow your path. 202 00:08:15,010 --> 00:08:16,120 And honestly, 203 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:16,450 I mean, 204 00:08:16,450 --> 00:08:17,980 people who have listened to me for awhile, 205 00:08:18,010 --> 00:08:19,330 no, this is how I feel. 206 00:08:19,330 --> 00:08:20,290 But so Nancy, 207 00:08:20,290 --> 00:08:22,480 this is kind of with you and me just talking is 208 00:08:22,810 --> 00:08:26,560 I'm not a proponent of people just quitting everything they're doing 209 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,580 and going all in with all the stress and the financial 210 00:08:30,580 --> 00:08:32,140 risks. I like what you did, 211 00:08:32,140 --> 00:08:33,970 where you were building it up on the side. 212 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,590 And even though it took longer, 213 00:08:35,620 --> 00:08:39,700 it had to be so much calmer a progression. 214 00:08:40,150 --> 00:08:42,400 Exactly. I always talk about that as well. 215 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,290 Exactly. I agree with you Again, 216 00:08:44,290 --> 00:08:45,040 I'm going to say, 217 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,260 and this is more for people who haven't been hanging out 218 00:08:47,260 --> 00:08:50,440 here for a while is if you do have a nine 219 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,610 to five right now, 220 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:55,180 that doesn't mean you can't start working on your business now 221 00:08:55,410 --> 00:08:58,020 and you also don't have to feel bad that you're doing 222 00:08:58,020 --> 00:09:00,180 both like that side hustle, 223 00:09:00,180 --> 00:09:03,690 in my opinion is a much easier way to get started 224 00:09:03,690 --> 00:09:06,060 because you don't have all the stress of having to make 225 00:09:06,060 --> 00:09:07,770 all this money right away. 226 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,740 Exactly. I totally agree. 227 00:09:10,130 --> 00:09:12,080 So I totally get the progression. 228 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,900 So you were blogging and then you were getting married. 229 00:09:14,900 --> 00:09:16,490 You went over to Etsy. 230 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,330 Oh, I also really like how you were testing everything out 231 00:09:20,330 --> 00:09:22,100 and then documenting over on your blog. 232 00:09:22,370 --> 00:09:24,770 Yes. I would do a lot of different posts on how 233 00:09:24,770 --> 00:09:26,000 to make money online. 234 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,480 So that's what at the moment was what was driving more 235 00:09:29,570 --> 00:09:32,330 traffic to my site because there are other people like myself 236 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,590 trying to make money online. 237 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:35,840 So I would try different things and I would just share 238 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:36,890 my experiences. 239 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:37,640 Okay. And are, 240 00:09:37,670 --> 00:09:40,010 do you have a presence on Etsy right now? 241 00:09:40,130 --> 00:09:40,910 Yes, I do. 242 00:09:41,060 --> 00:09:42,290 Okay. And where's your store? 243 00:09:42,590 --> 00:09:46,130 The main store that I use now is called Nancy marketing 244 00:09:46,130 --> 00:09:47,630 tools. Okay. 245 00:09:47,630 --> 00:09:49,130 And what would we see if we went there? 246 00:09:49,970 --> 00:09:55,340 One is more meant for ECC sellers and business resources and 247 00:09:55,340 --> 00:09:58,550 I'm in the stages of rebranding it again. 248 00:09:58,850 --> 00:10:01,940 But that is more for just anyone out there that has 249 00:10:01,940 --> 00:10:04,640 a small business or you're an ECC seller. 250 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,320 You'll find resources for your business. 251 00:10:06,650 --> 00:10:07,010 Got it. 252 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,070 Okay. So now let's talk at T specifically, 253 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:13,190 there are so many platforms now out there at T used 254 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:14,240 to be the only one, 255 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,340 like if you were looking for handmade, 256 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,350 pretty much everybody knew to go to it. 257 00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:20,210 Yes, exactly. 258 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,680 There a trend starters. 259 00:10:22,130 --> 00:10:23,630 Yeah. They started everything. 260 00:10:23,900 --> 00:10:25,520 Where is it today? 261 00:10:25,580 --> 00:10:27,830 What would you say in terms of the positioning of everyone 262 00:10:27,830 --> 00:10:28,430 that's out there? 263 00:10:28,430 --> 00:10:29,600 Where does that see fall today? 264 00:10:30,350 --> 00:10:30,680 I mean, 265 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:31,700 they're doing pretty good. 266 00:10:31,700 --> 00:10:33,200 Their stocks are really high right now. 267 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,610 This is the highest I've ever been there. 268 00:10:34,610 --> 00:10:35,180 Like a bottle, 269 00:10:35,180 --> 00:10:36,740 $106 per stock. 270 00:10:36,770 --> 00:10:37,940 I own a couple of stocks. 271 00:10:37,940 --> 00:10:39,170 So I keep track on that. 272 00:10:39,410 --> 00:10:40,940 I kind of figured as much. 273 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,300 No, they're doing pretty good ECC. 274 00:10:44,390 --> 00:10:48,860 It's a great marketplace for anyone wanting to start a business. 275 00:10:49,310 --> 00:10:52,310 Doesn't cost a lot to start your very own business on 276 00:10:52,310 --> 00:10:56,030 Etsy. And it's a great marketplace for anyone out there that 277 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,000 is very crafty and know how to create things that are 278 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,030 handmade. You can also sell vintage and supplies, 279 00:11:02,030 --> 00:11:07,040 but it is a great platform for just about any niche, 280 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,070 especially if you have something very unique to sell as well. 281 00:11:10,460 --> 00:11:12,770 Okay. Why should somebody choose? 282 00:11:12,770 --> 00:11:18,740 Let's say Etsy over Amazon handmade or some other platform online. 283 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:19,910 What does that ti have? 284 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:20,900 That's different. 285 00:11:21,530 --> 00:11:23,420 I think what ECC is, 286 00:11:23,660 --> 00:11:25,250 when you shop on Amazon, 287 00:11:25,550 --> 00:11:28,670 you never say I got this from the store called Nancy 288 00:11:28,670 --> 00:11:29,600 marketing tools, 289 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:30,950 right? You say Amazon, 290 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,120 somebody asks you, 291 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,890 what did you get that you normally would say, 292 00:11:33,890 --> 00:11:36,260 Amazon, when you buy an XC, 293 00:11:36,290 --> 00:11:39,020 it's a little bit different because the experience is who you 294 00:11:39,020 --> 00:11:39,500 bought it from. 295 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:40,700 And then people will say, 296 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:42,350 okay, I got it from this seller. 297 00:11:42,530 --> 00:11:43,760 Her store name is, 298 00:11:43,940 --> 00:11:44,900 this is her store name. 299 00:11:44,900 --> 00:11:45,950 Make sure that you visit her. 300 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,380 It's more the way that they have, 301 00:11:48,380 --> 00:11:49,550 you have a store, 302 00:11:49,790 --> 00:11:51,560 you could share your personal story. 303 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:53,060 You could have a voice, 304 00:11:53,110 --> 00:11:55,900 the tools and resources that they give you so you could 305 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:57,280 grow your business. 306 00:11:57,370 --> 00:11:58,480 They are amazing. 307 00:11:58,660 --> 00:12:02,380 So it's more of a platform where you are a unique 308 00:12:02,380 --> 00:12:03,850 feller versus Amazon. 309 00:12:03,850 --> 00:12:06,790 I feel is more like you are behind Amazon. 310 00:12:07,510 --> 00:12:11,190 So I think if you go To Amazon and I'm keep 311 00:12:11,190 --> 00:12:12,120 telling everybody, 312 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:12,330 you know, 313 00:12:12,330 --> 00:12:16,320 I'm doing this series of multiple platforms here and I'm keep 314 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,160 telling everybody, 315 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,370 I want you to hear all about all the platforms. 316 00:12:20,370 --> 00:12:24,000 And then you decide which one or more are right for 317 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:24,840 you, right? 318 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,240 Because all the platforms have pros and cons. 319 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:27,630 I feel, 320 00:12:29,010 --> 00:12:29,970 I do agree with you. 321 00:12:29,970 --> 00:12:32,340 And I think that one thing I always try to teach 322 00:12:32,340 --> 00:12:33,630 everyone is okay. 323 00:12:33,630 --> 00:12:37,110 XC is really great for branding yourself as a business owner, 324 00:12:37,110 --> 00:12:38,340 but don't stop there, 325 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:39,870 especially with what I sell. 326 00:12:39,870 --> 00:12:40,980 I sell digital products. 327 00:12:40,980 --> 00:12:42,120 So digital products, 328 00:12:42,450 --> 00:12:44,550 once you make them one time, 329 00:12:44,730 --> 00:12:47,280 you just open loading and keep selling them and selling them, 330 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,200 you don't have to keep redoing the work. 331 00:12:49,470 --> 00:12:52,150 So the Gordon thing about digital products is you. 332 00:12:52,150 --> 00:12:55,890 If you really want it to have multiple incomes of streams, 333 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,170 well, you could essentially do to be quite honest, 334 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,240 is maybe built your brand on XC, 335 00:13:00,390 --> 00:13:02,490 but still have an Amazon handmade. 336 00:13:02,610 --> 00:13:06,240 They'll go to Shopify and have your website there and kinda 337 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,750 like venture out in different platforms because you're selling a digital 338 00:13:09,750 --> 00:13:10,890 product. Once you create it, 339 00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:12,030 you did all the work already. 340 00:13:12,390 --> 00:13:13,620 Okay? So on Etsy, 341 00:13:13,620 --> 00:13:16,740 digital products are still considered handmade products. 342 00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:18,990 It's not just for physical handmade. 343 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,870 Exactly. It's also for digital handmade. 344 00:13:21,870 --> 00:13:23,910 So this is a really important point. 345 00:13:24,030 --> 00:13:25,560 I think you guys is, 346 00:13:25,650 --> 00:13:27,960 as you look at multiple streams of income, 347 00:13:28,020 --> 00:13:29,520 regardless of what you make, 348 00:13:29,610 --> 00:13:32,760 okay, is there a way that you could add a digital 349 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,200 element to it as well? 350 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,720 Maybe you make beaded jewelry and you could put a tutorial 351 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,720 together to show someone how to do one of the very 352 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,090 simple designs of beaded jewelry, 353 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:45,930 for example. 354 00:13:46,140 --> 00:13:49,380 And you could sell that online and just like Nancy saying, 355 00:13:49,410 --> 00:13:50,850 you make it wine to build it. 356 00:13:50,850 --> 00:13:52,500 Once it's now a product. 357 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:56,190 And guess what different than your jewelry that you make, 358 00:13:56,220 --> 00:13:57,600 you don't have to have supplies. 359 00:13:57,660 --> 00:13:59,850 There's no production cost it's already done. 360 00:14:00,060 --> 00:14:03,690 This is something to think about as you're strategically considering how 361 00:14:03,690 --> 00:14:05,100 you're growing your business. 362 00:14:05,550 --> 00:14:08,010 Exactly. And you could do it with so many different types 363 00:14:08,010 --> 00:14:08,670 of niches. 364 00:14:08,700 --> 00:14:09,300 Like you said, 365 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:11,400 jewelry, if you do knitting, 366 00:14:11,550 --> 00:14:14,190 you could do a medium pattern of what you knit it. 367 00:14:14,940 --> 00:14:16,680 Right? And you could sell that as a download, 368 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:17,430 like a PDF, 369 00:14:17,490 --> 00:14:19,590 showing somebody how to make a hat, 370 00:14:19,830 --> 00:14:20,970 something that's simple, 371 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:23,760 and you can sell them like for $5 and create a 372 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,650 digital product out of it is really, 373 00:14:25,650 --> 00:14:26,250 really cool. 374 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,390 So I'm feeling like getting back to this idea of Amazon 375 00:14:30,390 --> 00:14:32,160 handmade versus Etsy. 376 00:14:32,490 --> 00:14:34,830 When somebody goes to Amazon, 377 00:14:34,860 --> 00:14:38,070 they're specifically looking for a certain type of product for the 378 00:14:38,070 --> 00:14:38,820 most part. 379 00:14:38,850 --> 00:14:42,870 So maybe they're looking for pink baby blankets, 380 00:14:43,740 --> 00:14:44,850 right? Yes. 381 00:14:44,940 --> 00:14:48,060 And probably not looking as much for the store, 382 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:50,130 but when they go to Etsy, 383 00:14:50,250 --> 00:14:52,580 I think they probably look product specific, 384 00:14:52,580 --> 00:14:55,610 but once they link into the store or they saw you 385 00:14:55,610 --> 00:14:58,340 on Facebook and they know about your Etsy store or your 386 00:14:58,340 --> 00:15:01,550 Instagram link is heading people to the Etsy store, 387 00:15:01,550 --> 00:15:02,510 which I see a lot, 388 00:15:02,540 --> 00:15:03,980 then they know you by store name. 389 00:15:04,010 --> 00:15:06,860 So they also look for your shop specifically. 390 00:15:07,570 --> 00:15:08,620 Yes, exactly. 391 00:15:08,620 --> 00:15:11,650 And another thing you said is the whole personalization. 392 00:15:12,010 --> 00:15:14,800 That's another big key factor that I didn't mention is that 393 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,700 with ECC, 394 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,610 you could pretty much get anything customized. 395 00:15:18,730 --> 00:15:21,100 And that's why it's great for people that are getting married 396 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:23,080 or for baby showers for things like that. 397 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,770 Because you could literally just send someone a picture and say, 398 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,400 Hey, you know, 399 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,720 I'm thinking of something like this, 400 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,600 or you could go to a store and 90% of their 401 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,550 products you could personalize. 402 00:15:33,550 --> 00:15:36,370 And that's the great thing about buying on Etsy as well. 403 00:15:36,790 --> 00:15:38,950 You get something very unique and different. 404 00:15:39,340 --> 00:15:40,630 And again, 405 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,640 I think with a lot of these platforms, 406 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,110 particularly at sea, 407 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,360 if people don't know you from the beginning, 408 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,090 it's a great way for people just to learn and find 409 00:15:49,090 --> 00:15:52,270 out about you as a maker in total. 410 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:53,890 Because a lot of people just, 411 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,330 aren't going to know you're there. 412 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,500 When you're at craft shows, 413 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:58,810 you're only limited to someone who walks the show. 414 00:15:59,020 --> 00:15:59,950 When you're on Facebook, 415 00:15:59,950 --> 00:16:03,400 you're limited to the people who are liking your page or 416 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,570 part of your group. 417 00:16:04,780 --> 00:16:06,160 If they even see your posts, 418 00:16:06,190 --> 00:16:08,110 because we know all the issues with social media, 419 00:16:08,110 --> 00:16:13,330 right? But this is just another channel where you can become 420 00:16:13,330 --> 00:16:17,080 discovered with your product because your products would show up. 421 00:16:17,230 --> 00:16:19,360 And the platform is so big on Etsy. 422 00:16:20,380 --> 00:16:24,700 And I think the last statistics I saw was that both 423 00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:28,540 buyers and sellers were continually growing. 424 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:29,800 Yes, they are. 425 00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:31,840 This has grown so much. 426 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,410 I mean, 427 00:16:32,410 --> 00:16:34,480 one of the key things now is that a lot of 428 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,620 people worry about, 429 00:16:35,830 --> 00:16:38,140 well, how am I going to stand out in a saturated 430 00:16:38,140 --> 00:16:41,140 market when there's so many stores selling similar products? 431 00:16:41,410 --> 00:16:44,200 And the key thing is to build a memorable shop, 432 00:16:44,260 --> 00:16:46,900 to make sure that you're building your brand as you're building 433 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:47,620 your store, 434 00:16:47,710 --> 00:16:51,370 because it's growing so much that in 2016, 435 00:16:51,370 --> 00:16:52,690 you could upload something. 436 00:16:52,690 --> 00:16:55,870 And most likely within a month after uploading a couple of 437 00:16:55,900 --> 00:16:57,940 listings, you'll start getting some traction. 438 00:16:58,210 --> 00:17:01,180 It is getting a little bit harder because there's so many 439 00:17:01,180 --> 00:17:02,830 people joining the platform. 440 00:17:03,190 --> 00:17:06,430 Okay. I'm glad you addressed that because I have had a 441 00:17:06,430 --> 00:17:09,370 lot of people say to me that they're not getting the 442 00:17:09,370 --> 00:17:10,600 results from Etsy, 443 00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:12,250 that they did five years ago, 444 00:17:12,250 --> 00:17:12,970 for example. 445 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,200 Well, perhaps they're not because they're still doing the same thing 446 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,820 that they did five years ago. 447 00:17:19,150 --> 00:17:23,110 Yeah. And that's what Forms change over time. 448 00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:25,810 So when you talk about a memorable shop, 449 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,700 can you go deeper with that? 450 00:17:27,940 --> 00:17:31,060 Oh, what types of things would people do to make their 451 00:17:31,060 --> 00:17:31,990 shop memorable? 452 00:17:32,380 --> 00:17:32,890 Of course, 453 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,040 the first thing is the branding is really important. 454 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,040 Making sure that you have a brand, 455 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,770 like when people look at your different listings, 456 00:17:42,070 --> 00:17:44,950 if they were to see them separately in the search feed, 457 00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:47,850 would they recognize that this is from that one store, 458 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:49,210 Nancy marketing tools? 459 00:17:49,470 --> 00:17:51,330 Would they recognize you as a brand? 460 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,480 Because once you get recognized as a brand and people start 461 00:17:54,780 --> 00:17:56,100 noticing who you are, 462 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,920 then you could charge even premium prices and even raise your 463 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,120 prices up as well. 464 00:18:00,570 --> 00:18:02,310 So that's one key element. 465 00:18:02,370 --> 00:18:04,050 The second key element is, 466 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:08,130 especially when you're first starting out is to micromanage down. 467 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,620 A lot of people feel like if they micro niche, 468 00:18:11,010 --> 00:18:12,330 that they're not going to get sales, 469 00:18:12,330 --> 00:18:14,640 that they need to sell a whole bunch of different things. 470 00:18:14,820 --> 00:18:17,190 They feel like they need to sell mugs and tots and 471 00:18:17,190 --> 00:18:20,880 principals and keychains and a whole bunch of different varieties. 472 00:18:21,150 --> 00:18:22,110 But when you do that, 473 00:18:22,110 --> 00:18:25,980 you actually confuse yourself as well as your target audience. 474 00:18:25,980 --> 00:18:28,710 Like you don't really know who is your target audience, 475 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:31,440 because you got like 10 different people that you're trying to 476 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,100 sell to. 477 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,900 So when you try to sell to everyone, 478 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:34,770 you sell to no one, 479 00:18:34,770 --> 00:18:38,340 you have to make sure that you niche down and stick 480 00:18:38,340 --> 00:18:39,390 with that for a little bit, 481 00:18:39,390 --> 00:18:42,360 to see if you start getting some traction and your audience 482 00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:45,600 eventually will tell you the things that they want from you. 483 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,000 And once you start branding initial down, 484 00:18:48,210 --> 00:18:49,380 people will start telling you, 485 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:51,330 Hey, you should have this on your store, 486 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,280 or this will be cool if you have this. 487 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,940 And then you create a robust line around those products. 488 00:18:56,940 --> 00:18:58,770 And then once you have a brand, 489 00:18:59,130 --> 00:19:02,600 then you can start adding different elements of different things, 490 00:19:02,620 --> 00:19:04,590 as long as it's related to your niche. 491 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,530 But that's the best way to kind of start a brand 492 00:19:07,620 --> 00:19:08,220 and grow. 493 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,240 And the third thing is don't rely on XC alone. 494 00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:15,540 Don't rely on the traffic of ECC because keep in mind 495 00:19:15,540 --> 00:19:18,930 that 2016 and 2020 is four years different. 496 00:19:18,930 --> 00:19:21,930 Imagine all the stores and all the people that are adding 497 00:19:22,020 --> 00:19:23,610 new stores every single day. 498 00:19:23,820 --> 00:19:25,530 So organically, 499 00:19:25,530 --> 00:19:28,170 you might not get found because there's so many people you're 500 00:19:28,170 --> 00:19:28,980 competing with. 501 00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:32,340 So the only way to stand out on monster your competitors 502 00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:36,420 and get that consistent traffic all the time is by leveraging 503 00:19:36,750 --> 00:19:39,780 branding and leveraging social media and email marketing, 504 00:19:39,780 --> 00:19:42,330 which is a big thing that many people don't do on 505 00:19:42,330 --> 00:19:44,950 ECC. As one of the one thing that I do frequently 506 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:46,230 on my YouTube channel. 507 00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:48,000 And that's the number one thing I noticed, 508 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,440 no one is collecting emails. 509 00:19:49,710 --> 00:19:51,780 They're not practicing email marketing, 510 00:19:51,780 --> 00:19:55,140 which is really important for you to get that repeated customer, 511 00:19:55,140 --> 00:19:56,940 to build your brand and most more, 512 00:19:56,940 --> 00:19:59,790 right? Like targeting on Facebook and doing other things with that. 513 00:19:59,940 --> 00:20:02,430 But you have to think outside of ECC, 514 00:20:02,430 --> 00:20:04,890 you can't just create a store overload, 515 00:20:04,890 --> 00:20:07,650 a couple listings and just wait for the traffic and the 516 00:20:07,650 --> 00:20:08,310 money to come in. 517 00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:09,240 And it doesn't work that way. 518 00:20:09,390 --> 00:20:11,700 You have to drive your own traffic back to your store, 519 00:20:11,910 --> 00:20:13,740 whatever you get from ECC, 520 00:20:13,740 --> 00:20:16,080 from the building traffic that they provide you. 521 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:16,770 That's great, 522 00:20:16,770 --> 00:20:17,940 but that should be extra. 523 00:20:18,180 --> 00:20:21,330 You should be driving your own traffic using other sources. 524 00:20:21,770 --> 00:20:22,820 Absolutely. I mean, 525 00:20:22,820 --> 00:20:24,200 it's kind of similar to, 526 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,400 if you build a website, 527 00:20:25,730 --> 00:20:26,300 of course, 528 00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:28,100 people think that, 529 00:20:28,130 --> 00:20:28,550 Oh, well, 530 00:20:28,550 --> 00:20:30,380 if I build a website and then they sit and they 531 00:20:30,380 --> 00:20:31,760 wait for the sales to come in, 532 00:20:31,820 --> 00:20:35,690 well, that doesn't happen because nobody knows the website even exists 533 00:20:35,870 --> 00:20:36,470 or Kirkland. 534 00:20:36,740 --> 00:20:38,480 So I think with Etsy, 535 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,870 there's a little bit more advantage because you might be found 536 00:20:41,870 --> 00:20:42,650 in search. 537 00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:44,900 We have that built in audience already. 538 00:20:45,380 --> 00:20:46,490 Yeah, it's possible. 539 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,170 And that's also why it was working so much better earlier 540 00:20:50,170 --> 00:20:52,780 because not so many people were on the platform yet. 541 00:20:53,050 --> 00:20:54,880 Just like I was saying a little bit ago, 542 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,890 like the link in your Instagram bio, 543 00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:59,980 if you're doing a Facebook live about a certain product, 544 00:20:59,980 --> 00:21:00,490 then you say, 545 00:21:00,490 --> 00:21:01,900 go visit my Etsy shop. 546 00:21:01,990 --> 00:21:03,370 If you don't have a website yet. 547 00:21:03,820 --> 00:21:04,810 So absolutely. 548 00:21:04,810 --> 00:21:06,460 And talking it up everywhere. 549 00:21:06,490 --> 00:21:08,800 I totally agree with you with that. 550 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,010 What mistakes do you see people doing on Etsy? 551 00:21:14,860 --> 00:21:17,620 We'll get into these mistakes right after a quick break. 552 00:21:18,420 --> 00:21:19,980 Yes. It's possible. 553 00:21:20,130 --> 00:21:22,800 Increase your sales without adding a single customer. 554 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,460 How you ask by offering personalization with your products, 555 00:21:26,730 --> 00:21:29,880 wrap a cake box with a ribbon saying happy 30th birthday, 556 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,330 Annie, or at a special message and date to wedding or 557 00:21:33,330 --> 00:21:35,790 party favors for an extra meaningful touch. 558 00:21:35,910 --> 00:21:39,150 Where else can you get customization with a creatively spelled name 559 00:21:39,150 --> 00:21:40,080 or find packaging? 560 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,570 That includes a saying whose meaning is known to a select 561 00:21:42,570 --> 00:21:45,270 to not only our customers willing to pay for these special 562 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:48,450 touches. They'll tell their friends and word will spread about your 563 00:21:48,450 --> 00:21:49,740 company and products. 564 00:21:49,950 --> 00:21:53,310 You can create personalized ribbons and labels in seconds. 565 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,730 Make just one or thousands without waiting weeks or having to 566 00:21:56,730 --> 00:22:00,000 spend money to order yards and yards print words in any 567 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,990 language or font, 568 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:01,950 add logos, 569 00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:03,810 images, even photos, 570 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,020 perfect for branding or adding ingredient and flavor labels. 571 00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:08,730 To for more information, 572 00:22:08,730 --> 00:22:10,830 go to the ribbon print company.com. 573 00:22:11,550 --> 00:22:11,850 You know, 574 00:22:11,850 --> 00:22:15,540 I think because it's social easy platform to sign up, 575 00:22:15,570 --> 00:22:18,570 you don't have to pay thousands of dollars to start a 576 00:22:18,570 --> 00:22:19,620 business on vaccine. 577 00:22:19,950 --> 00:22:22,200 People treat it like a hobby and not like a real 578 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,350 business. They upload once in a while, 579 00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:26,790 they don't have their rules. 580 00:22:26,790 --> 00:22:27,810 They don't have their about me. 581 00:22:27,810 --> 00:22:29,010 Story filled out. 582 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,780 They don't even have a logo. 583 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,880 They're not constantly fixing their store. 584 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,200 I'm constantly changing it. 585 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:34,950 Trying to think of, 586 00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:36,960 okay, I did this six months from now and look at 587 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,380 it. I'm like, 588 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,790 ah, I could make it look better. 589 00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:40,770 Right? So I'm constantly trying to fix it. 590 00:22:41,130 --> 00:22:42,300 That's what I said in the beginning. 591 00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:44,910 I'm rebranding my whole store right now to make it look 592 00:22:44,910 --> 00:22:46,260 better. And I'm removing stuff. 593 00:22:46,770 --> 00:22:47,970 It's a constant work. 594 00:22:47,970 --> 00:22:50,550 It's not just creating the store and just sitting there and 595 00:22:50,550 --> 00:22:50,700 be like, 596 00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:52,530 okay, I guess I'll just wait for the money to come 597 00:22:52,530 --> 00:22:55,140 in. But they treat it as a hobby. 598 00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:56,670 They don't treat it as a real business. 599 00:22:56,940 --> 00:22:58,950 And then I have people they'll tell me, 600 00:22:58,950 --> 00:23:00,420 Hey, I'm not getting any sales. 601 00:23:00,690 --> 00:23:02,400 I'll go do an audit of their store. 602 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,990 They don't have SEO done. 603 00:23:04,260 --> 00:23:07,320 They have one image instead of using all 10 images to 604 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,400 showcase your product, 605 00:23:08,610 --> 00:23:10,020 they have no bio. 606 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,150 They have no pictures like blank. 607 00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:15,750 It looks like an incomplete store when you're shopping as a 608 00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:18,420 buyer. And you're going to a store that doesn't have a 609 00:23:18,420 --> 00:23:20,880 logo. You go to the listing description to read why you're 610 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,720 getting it. 611 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,250 Doesn't have anything in there. 612 00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:24,000 You're like, 613 00:23:24,180 --> 00:23:25,200 um, okay, 614 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,400 I'm going to go to the next door. 615 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,300 You lose people. 616 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:29,160 You're not engaging those people. 617 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,460 Or I always tell people your photo is what grabs the 618 00:23:32,460 --> 00:23:33,480 person's attention, 619 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,520 right? It was makes them want to click it, 620 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,340 compels them to learn more about who you are as a 621 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:42,360 brand. Your listing description is what gives them the feeling of, 622 00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:42,870 Oh, okay. 623 00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:44,970 This is all I need to know about whatever they're buying. 624 00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:48,290 I feel comfortable and helps them make an informed decision of 625 00:23:48,290 --> 00:23:49,880 whether they want to proceed with the order. 626 00:23:50,150 --> 00:23:52,670 And the SCO is how they found during the first place. 627 00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:55,040 All of them combined together help you, 628 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,920 not just doing SEO and having bad photos, 629 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,140 not crafting a great listing description, 630 00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:02,150 but you didn't optimize it for SEO. 631 00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:03,770 Or maybe you have great photos, 632 00:24:03,770 --> 00:24:05,240 but you didn't do the other two things. 633 00:24:05,540 --> 00:24:10,670 Everything collectively works together to help you reach more people and 634 00:24:10,670 --> 00:24:12,020 hopefully get more sales, 635 00:24:12,020 --> 00:24:13,130 which is the ultimate goal. 636 00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:13,810 Yeah. Yeah. 637 00:24:13,810 --> 00:24:17,560 And I think that is one challenge on the platform overall, 638 00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:19,000 not just unique to Etsy, 639 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,970 but potentially other places as well is that you are going 640 00:24:21,970 --> 00:24:24,340 to have some hobbyists there just because that's, 641 00:24:24,340 --> 00:24:25,930 he is known for handmade. 642 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,840 So you might have some teenagers who are throwing some product 643 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,410 up on Etsy. 644 00:24:29,410 --> 00:24:30,370 It's kind of a business, 645 00:24:30,370 --> 00:24:32,230 not really that kind of thing. 646 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,730 But if you're really there with serious business intent, 647 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,010 this can't be a Friday afternoon project. 648 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,600 You throw up some information, 649 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,740 hope for some sales, 650 00:24:41,770 --> 00:24:45,160 see if it works and then either say yes or no, 651 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,450 or kind of forget about it, 652 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,220 right. If you're really serious, 653 00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:49,390 you've got to do everything. 654 00:24:49,420 --> 00:24:50,260 Like you just mentioned, 655 00:24:50,260 --> 00:24:51,760 Nancy, filling it all out, 656 00:24:51,790 --> 00:24:53,620 getting educated on the platform, 657 00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:54,460 making sure that, 658 00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:55,180 so when people come, 659 00:24:55,180 --> 00:24:57,820 they really understand that it is a serious business. 660 00:24:58,090 --> 00:25:00,070 Exactly. And treat it like a real business. 661 00:25:00,070 --> 00:25:02,560 Like even if you didn't spend a lot of money to 662 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,370 start it up, 663 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,830 it just treated it like a real business when you do. 664 00:25:05,980 --> 00:25:06,550 But like you said, 665 00:25:06,550 --> 00:25:07,510 you will learn a lot. 666 00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:08,890 You will grow in the platform. 667 00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:11,290 It will teach you a lot of valuable lessons and you're 668 00:25:11,290 --> 00:25:12,280 going to make mistakes. 669 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,300 We all make mistakes. 670 00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:14,320 Especially in the beginning, 671 00:25:14,530 --> 00:25:17,620 the key is pushing through them and keep learning and growing 672 00:25:18,130 --> 00:25:19,480 You. And I talked, 673 00:25:19,540 --> 00:25:22,360 I don't know if it was by comment already while we 674 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:24,640 were recording or when we were pre chatting. 675 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,740 But we did talk a little bit about the fact that 676 00:25:26,770 --> 00:25:27,820 you also still, 677 00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:28,570 at some point, 678 00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:31,870 want your own website that you own so they can work 679 00:25:31,870 --> 00:25:33,400 in tandem with each other. 680 00:25:33,580 --> 00:25:34,900 How does that work? 681 00:25:34,930 --> 00:25:37,570 So let's say someone starts and I think a lot of 682 00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:40,870 people like it's the easier option because the platform is so 683 00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:43,420 well built out already shopping carts, 684 00:25:43,450 --> 00:25:44,950 integrated like all of that. 685 00:25:45,220 --> 00:25:49,180 So most people would probably start with some type of an 686 00:25:49,210 --> 00:25:52,090 e-commerce spot on Etsy, 687 00:25:52,540 --> 00:25:53,800 right? Yeah. 688 00:25:53,860 --> 00:25:56,500 I would recommend to start with ECC first. 689 00:25:56,620 --> 00:25:58,600 So you could kind of like get started, 690 00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:59,170 like you said, 691 00:25:59,170 --> 00:26:03,310 it's a lot easier and people do tend to get overwhelmed. 692 00:26:03,310 --> 00:26:07,240 Having just even thinking about having a blog because they don't 693 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,530 know really where to start. 694 00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:12,300 However, the great thing about now in days is that there's 695 00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:16,090 so many great resources that you could find to learn how 696 00:26:16,090 --> 00:26:17,020 to build a site, 697 00:26:17,050 --> 00:26:19,540 or you go hire someone if you have the budget, 698 00:26:19,540 --> 00:26:23,200 obviously. But the first thing I would say is start with 699 00:26:23,230 --> 00:26:24,790 your ECC store. 700 00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:27,100 And once you have built it up that you have a 701 00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:27,850 lot of listings, 702 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,170 you completed everything. 703 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,980 I do think that it's very necessary to have a blog 704 00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:34,480 or website. 705 00:26:34,510 --> 00:26:35,620 Let's call it a website, 706 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:36,430 a website. 707 00:26:36,790 --> 00:26:39,430 I always recommend WordPress. 708 00:26:39,490 --> 00:26:42,820 I feel like you could start with like Wix or one 709 00:26:42,820 --> 00:26:47,370 of these platforms are very easy to start with over time. 710 00:26:47,370 --> 00:26:49,110 You'll I'll grow that platform. 711 00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:51,360 And I personally like WordPress, 712 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:52,800 because you could do so much, 713 00:26:52,860 --> 00:26:54,090 it's an open platform. 714 00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:57,990 You can pretty much customize it anywhere you want in the 715 00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:59,010 beginning. Yes. 716 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,630 It will be a learning curve, 717 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,190 but in the long run, 718 00:27:02,190 --> 00:27:04,050 you'll be so thankful that you're with them. 719 00:27:04,350 --> 00:27:06,780 But whatever platform you choose, 720 00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:09,990 just have a website outside of ECC. 721 00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:12,840 Absolutely. For numerous reasons. 722 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,290 Exit could unfortunately suspend your account. 723 00:27:16,290 --> 00:27:16,560 I mean, 724 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,980 there's countless people that I have a video on YouTube about 725 00:27:20,010 --> 00:27:21,170 your account being suspended. 726 00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:22,500 I guess so many people that tell me, 727 00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:24,480 Nancy, you mentioned in the video, 728 00:27:24,540 --> 00:27:26,700 ECC only suspense accounts based on one, 729 00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:27,180 two, three. 730 00:27:27,390 --> 00:27:29,340 I didn't do any of those things in my account got 731 00:27:29,340 --> 00:27:32,670 suspended and it's been happening a lot lately. 732 00:27:32,670 --> 00:27:36,270 I've no idea why majority of these people follow me. 733 00:27:36,270 --> 00:27:37,620 They're great people. 734 00:27:37,620 --> 00:27:38,670 I know their products. 735 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,310 So it is a little nerve wracking to know that it 736 00:27:41,310 --> 00:27:42,390 could happen to anyone, 737 00:27:42,390 --> 00:27:43,470 including myself, 738 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,310 that they could say, 739 00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:46,980 okay, the store broke some type of policy. 740 00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:49,170 Maybe you use one word that's trademark or something. 741 00:27:49,170 --> 00:27:49,680 Not sure, 742 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,780 but they have been getting stores shut down. 743 00:27:51,780 --> 00:27:53,100 For some reason it happens, 744 00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:53,550 I guess. 745 00:27:53,850 --> 00:27:56,130 But if you have your own website, 746 00:27:56,130 --> 00:27:57,360 you don't lose everything. 747 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:01,470 That's one main reason that many people start a website on 748 00:28:01,470 --> 00:28:01,860 the side, 749 00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:04,470 you shouldn't start it because of the premises of my storm. 750 00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:05,160 I get suspended. 751 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,470 You should start it because of the premises that you're trying 752 00:28:07,470 --> 00:28:08,610 to build a real business, 753 00:28:08,610 --> 00:28:09,630 you're trying to grow. 754 00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:11,220 And with a website, 755 00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:13,440 you could sell your product there. 756 00:28:13,470 --> 00:28:17,010 You could grow your email list a lot easier than ECC 757 00:28:17,370 --> 00:28:18,570 because we XC. 758 00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:22,650 One of the cons is that when you're collecting emails, 759 00:28:22,890 --> 00:28:24,330 you're allowed to do so, 760 00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:26,940 but you have to put a link where people have to 761 00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:28,110 copy that link, 762 00:28:28,350 --> 00:28:29,600 put it in the browser, 763 00:28:29,670 --> 00:28:31,080 head over to your email. 764 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,380 Sign up is not a clickable link because it's outside of 765 00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:37,080 ECC. So therefore a lot of people are not going to 766 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,430 like copy and paste. 767 00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:42,270 Unfortunately, unless they really wanted this con or whatever you're offering 768 00:28:42,270 --> 00:28:42,840 for free. 769 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,180 They make it a lot harder on the website. 770 00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:46,410 You could have little popups, 771 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,790 you could track people. 772 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,370 You could collect that email and tell Facebook, 773 00:28:50,370 --> 00:28:52,860 Hey, I want to show I'm running a sales on my 774 00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:56,130 Ziad. I want you to show my products to these people 775 00:28:56,190 --> 00:28:57,930 that already engage with my brand, 776 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,510 that I know the likelihood of them buying is a lot 777 00:29:00,510 --> 00:29:03,210 higher. So there's so many things you could do with a 778 00:29:03,210 --> 00:29:04,890 blog. In addition to that, 779 00:29:04,890 --> 00:29:05,610 having a website, 780 00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:08,970 you will have a section for blogging because now you can 781 00:29:08,970 --> 00:29:11,910 reach more people by providing value. 782 00:29:12,180 --> 00:29:15,960 If you provide valuable content around what you fell, 783 00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:19,770 that's the quickest way to grow your brand and drive more 784 00:29:19,770 --> 00:29:21,930 traffic using the power of Google. 785 00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:23,120 Totally agree. 786 00:29:23,150 --> 00:29:26,780 And we do have it's either before or after this episode, 787 00:29:26,780 --> 00:29:29,270 I don't remember where it falls in the scheme of things, 788 00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:32,270 but we are going to be reviewing Shopify also, 789 00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:33,920 which for product based businesses, 790 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,630 I think is a great option. 791 00:29:35,630 --> 00:29:38,930 So WordPress or Shopify are great options, 792 00:29:38,930 --> 00:29:40,310 but having that website, 793 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:41,650 you can see how Nancy's talking. 794 00:29:41,950 --> 00:29:46,120 It serves different purposes and there's value to both of them 795 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,860 and they can work well together. 796 00:29:48,780 --> 00:29:51,300 Exactly. There's so many things now in day, 797 00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:52,830 there's a plugin that I use. 798 00:29:53,220 --> 00:29:56,340 I'm also an ambassador for them just to kind of as 799 00:29:56,340 --> 00:29:57,180 a disclaimer, 800 00:29:57,510 --> 00:30:00,600 but it's a plugin it's called WordPress three 60. 801 00:30:00,930 --> 00:30:03,960 And it's really nice because it takes about 10 minutes to 802 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,210 use you use it in your WordPress site. 803 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,080 And what it does is integrates your XC store to your 804 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,280 actual website. 805 00:30:11,610 --> 00:30:14,310 And when people are shopping on your website, 806 00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:15,780 if they end up buying something, 807 00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:18,540 they add it to the cart and now it redirects them 808 00:30:18,540 --> 00:30:20,940 back to ECC because that's the only way it works. 809 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:24,450 And it's nice because if they never heard of your brand 810 00:30:24,810 --> 00:30:26,280 and they added to cart, 811 00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:27,840 it will take them to ECC. 812 00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:30,090 So they will feel a little bit more at ease of 813 00:30:30,090 --> 00:30:33,210 buying. So that's another thing that you could do. 814 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,530 There's more plugins out there. 815 00:30:34,530 --> 00:30:35,010 I'm sure, 816 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:37,140 but that's the one that I would recommend using. 817 00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:39,810 I have it in my own website and it's just really 818 00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:42,630 nice flow of things that you could actually promote your products 819 00:30:42,810 --> 00:30:43,980 because on XC, 820 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,180 when you send traffic, 821 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,300 let's say you do Pinterest or you use a Facebook ad 822 00:30:48,330 --> 00:30:51,150 or just organic traffic that you're sending back to your store. 823 00:30:51,390 --> 00:30:53,340 When they click on your listing. 824 00:30:53,610 --> 00:30:56,400 If they scroll down to read your listing description, 825 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,350 to get acclimated with your listing, 826 00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:01,080 if they go a little bit too low on the page, 827 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,010 on the bottom, 828 00:31:02,010 --> 00:31:03,390 it has your competitors, 829 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,320 the actually lists your competitors on the bottom of the page. 830 00:31:07,650 --> 00:31:10,440 So you're driving the traffic to ECC, 831 00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:13,830 but you have the chance that they might actually leave your 832 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:15,660 store and click on someone else's listing. 833 00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:17,580 Versus when you have a website, 834 00:31:17,850 --> 00:31:20,700 you could drive them to your actual website, 835 00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:22,080 whether you have a plugin or not, 836 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,540 maybe you just sell your e-commerce stuff there as well, 837 00:31:24,810 --> 00:31:27,270 but they're staying there and there's no other competition. 838 00:31:27,270 --> 00:31:31,050 So that's another great benefit of having your website as well, 839 00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,470 Multiple avenues to be able to buy your product, 840 00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:36,210 I think is the overall thing. 841 00:31:36,210 --> 00:31:38,970 And I think in my mind heard a couple of listeners 842 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,780 gasp like, 843 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,090 Ooh, my competitors are going to show up, 844 00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:43,140 but guess what? 845 00:31:43,260 --> 00:31:47,220 You could also then be showing up on other people's stores 846 00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:48,690 if they scroll down to the bottom. 847 00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:50,070 So it works both ways. 848 00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:51,330 It goes both ways. 849 00:31:51,330 --> 00:31:52,800 And you could look at that in your stats. 850 00:31:53,010 --> 00:31:56,460 I get so many sales from other pages as well. 851 00:31:56,850 --> 00:31:57,450 Like you said, 852 00:31:57,450 --> 00:31:59,040 it's not such a negative thing, 853 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,410 but it is one thing that many people are concerned is 854 00:32:01,410 --> 00:32:03,990 one of the trending topics that people tell me. 855 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:06,750 So I always tell them both sides, 856 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:08,850 like having a website will help you with that as well. 857 00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:10,710 But like you just mentioned a valid point. 858 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:14,100 It doesn't always is a bad thing because people do find 859 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:16,260 my listings based on other people's results, 860 00:32:16,290 --> 00:32:17,130 which is great as well. 861 00:32:17,460 --> 00:32:20,400 Right now let's just stay focused on Etsy. 862 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,430 Okay. If someone hasn't started yet, 863 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:25,890 and they're thinking about starting an Etsy shop, 864 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,590 can you walk through what they would expect to see as 865 00:32:28,590 --> 00:32:29,490 they got started? 866 00:32:29,730 --> 00:32:30,600 So where would they go? 867 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,000 I'm guessing they'd head over to Etsy and look for a 868 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,040 button somewhere that says create a stores. 869 00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:38,130 Yes. If you go to ecc.com, 870 00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:40,430 I believe on the corner on the top, 871 00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:43,430 right corner is gonna have ask you to register. 872 00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:44,900 If you want to register a storm, 873 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,190 Do they need to be registered already as an official business 874 00:32:48,250 --> 00:32:48,880 to open a show? 875 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,200 No, they don't. 876 00:32:50,380 --> 00:32:53,800 You don't need a business license to start an Etsy store. 877 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,100 All you need to do is pretty much go to ecc.com 878 00:32:57,310 --> 00:32:59,440 on the top right corner and have like a little button 879 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,430 that says sign in. 880 00:33:00,730 --> 00:33:02,500 But if you don't have an account, 881 00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,270 you just on the right top corner, 882 00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:04,900 you click on, 883 00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:08,110 sign in and then you'll see another button that says register. 884 00:33:08,410 --> 00:33:09,580 And if you click there, 885 00:33:09,580 --> 00:33:12,430 then you'll be able to go ahead and proceed with opening 886 00:33:12,730 --> 00:33:14,350 or creating your account with access. 887 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,150 Okay. Another question, 888 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,460 I'm going to try not to interrupt you all the time, 889 00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:19,870 but I am again right now, 890 00:33:21,070 --> 00:33:24,130 if you have purchased on Etsy already, 891 00:33:24,130 --> 00:33:27,910 so you probably created an account through the purchasing experience. 892 00:33:28,150 --> 00:33:30,790 Would you log into that same account and then take it 893 00:33:30,790 --> 00:33:31,420 from there? 894 00:33:32,020 --> 00:33:34,120 Yes. You will log in through the same account and take 895 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,540 it from there. 896 00:33:34,540 --> 00:33:35,860 Exactly. Okay. 897 00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:40,960 If you logged in as a person versus your business, 898 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,800 like I have different email addresses for my different companies and 899 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,780 then also a personal email address. 900 00:33:47,050 --> 00:33:49,510 Would there be any value to me keeping them separate? 901 00:33:49,540 --> 00:33:50,860 So like anytime I'm buying, 902 00:33:50,860 --> 00:33:52,810 I would just be my personal email, 903 00:33:52,990 --> 00:33:57,730 but then I wanted to set up my Etsy account as 904 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,660 Sue at, 905 00:33:58,660 --> 00:33:59,950 and then my business name. 906 00:34:00,070 --> 00:34:02,230 Would there be any reason to do it that way? 907 00:34:02,650 --> 00:34:05,080 Yeah, I think it's better if you keep a separate, 908 00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:08,830 because a lot of people use one email account for everything 909 00:34:08,830 --> 00:34:10,300 like personal and business, 910 00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:13,120 but you want to start with the mentality that this is 911 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,200 a business account, 912 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,870 right? This is a business that you want to essentially grow. 913 00:34:17,110 --> 00:34:18,880 So it just better to have a separate. 914 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,640 So you don't mix personal with business together. 915 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,030 Okay. Okay. 916 00:34:22,030 --> 00:34:22,960 So two options, 917 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,320 like, you know, 918 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,490 sometimes, especially if someone's just starting and this is my recommendation 919 00:34:27,490 --> 00:34:28,300 to everybody, 920 00:34:28,660 --> 00:34:31,900 you may not for sure be settled into even your company 921 00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:32,650 name yet. 922 00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:33,010 You know, 923 00:34:33,010 --> 00:34:34,510 if you're starting to test products, 924 00:34:34,510 --> 00:34:35,530 test the waters, 925 00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:36,790 you know how we were talking about, 926 00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:39,760 you're not sure which products might be the most popular and 927 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,780 to niche down. 928 00:34:41,170 --> 00:34:44,650 Yeah. So you could potentially open a shop. 929 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,660 I'm thinking you might tell me no Nancy, 930 00:34:46,690 --> 00:34:50,800 but you might want to hold off on formalizing names and 931 00:34:50,830 --> 00:34:54,010 emails until you really feel solid on what you're doing. 932 00:34:54,010 --> 00:34:55,600 And you've gotten some traction and you know, 933 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,350 that it's work. 934 00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:57,790 Yeah. I'm not against that. 935 00:34:57,820 --> 00:34:59,280 But because when people tell me why, 936 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,060 I don't really know what I want to start with. 937 00:35:01,180 --> 00:35:03,490 One of the other advice I give is, 938 00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:05,830 okay, so the first thing you could do is you could 939 00:35:05,830 --> 00:35:10,000 just start selling random things and kind of see what people 940 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,050 are engaging with, 941 00:35:11,050 --> 00:35:12,610 what people are interacting with. 942 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:16,750 But once you find the products that are doing really well, 943 00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:19,600 then you want to go ahead and eliminate all the other 944 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,920 stuff. So in the beginning, 945 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,180 yeah, I do agree with you. 946 00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:23,050 You could kind of start it. 947 00:35:23,050 --> 00:35:25,060 You don't have to formalize everything. 948 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:27,070 You could just start with different things. 949 00:35:27,070 --> 00:35:27,970 Test the waters, 950 00:35:27,970 --> 00:35:29,200 see what's worked for you. 951 00:35:29,350 --> 00:35:30,310 And then later on, 952 00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:30,670 say, okay, 953 00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:32,080 this is going to be the business name. 954 00:35:32,290 --> 00:35:33,340 This is going to be this. 955 00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:35,920 And kind of set it up as you go Rename a 956 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,220 shop after you've called it something. 957 00:35:38,220 --> 00:35:39,360 Or would you create a whole new yeah, 958 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,420 No, you could rename the shop. 959 00:35:41,450 --> 00:35:44,090 I don't necessarily think you should recreate a whole new one. 960 00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:45,470 Perfect. Okay. 961 00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:47,000 So lots of flexibility there. 962 00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:51,560 Okay. And you could always do something like Nancy designs that 963 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,900 way. You're not like niching so much. 964 00:35:53,930 --> 00:35:55,640 And I say Nancy wedding designs, 965 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,630 and then later on, 966 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:59,210 you're not sending weddings since we're kind of keep it open 967 00:35:59,210 --> 00:35:59,570 as well, 968 00:35:59,570 --> 00:36:00,560 if you want it to the name. 969 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,370 Okay. Okay. 970 00:36:01,460 --> 00:36:03,770 So we're creating a shop. 971 00:36:03,770 --> 00:36:04,610 What happens then? 972 00:36:05,090 --> 00:36:06,890 Well, once you create your shop, 973 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:12,080 I recommend using there's a tool called dot com and it's 974 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,190 free to sign up. 975 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,780 They do have a pro version. 976 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,980 I believe it's $10. 977 00:36:15,980 --> 00:36:17,720 I signed up with them a couple years ago, 978 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:19,040 so it's $10 a month. 979 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,420 Hopefully it's still the same price. 980 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:21,800 And with E rank, 981 00:36:21,860 --> 00:36:24,080 you're able to plug in your store. 982 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,070 Once you create your store, 983 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:26,570 you're able to plug in your store. 984 00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:29,570 And it's such a wonderful tool because it helps you to 985 00:36:29,570 --> 00:36:31,250 do market research. 986 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,010 You're able to see top sellers by category, 987 00:36:34,010 --> 00:36:35,030 by country. 988 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,220 You're able to do keyword research. 989 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,460 You're able to see what's trending not only on ECC, 990 00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:41,300 but on Google, 991 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:43,040 especially if you create your own website. 992 00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:45,530 So you can start writing about those products and services and 993 00:36:45,530 --> 00:36:46,790 start driving more traffic. 994 00:36:47,060 --> 00:36:49,370 There's so many tools in Iran. 995 00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:51,380 I highly recommend doing that. 996 00:36:51,770 --> 00:36:56,750 I also recommend once you start building your store is using 997 00:36:56,780 --> 00:36:58,700 the ECC sellers handbook. 998 00:36:59,030 --> 00:37:00,770 If you don't know how to do something, 999 00:37:00,770 --> 00:37:03,800 let's say you're trying to do your banner and your picture's 1000 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,520 not coming out. 1001 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,130 Right. And it's blurry or pixelated. 1002 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,780 The XC seller's handbook has different categories of different things. 1003 00:37:11,780 --> 00:37:14,690 You could go in there and look for information about photography, 1004 00:37:14,750 --> 00:37:15,590 about shipping, 1005 00:37:15,830 --> 00:37:17,180 about legal stuff. 1006 00:37:17,210 --> 00:37:18,020 Getting started, 1007 00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:18,800 getting found, 1008 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,210 SEO, pricing, 1009 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,860 finances, taxes, 1010 00:37:21,860 --> 00:37:24,470 and the list goes on and on and on. 1011 00:37:24,740 --> 00:37:27,290 And this is one of the tools that many people don't 1012 00:37:27,290 --> 00:37:29,000 use as XC sellers. 1013 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:31,880 And this is what makes ECC so special as well. 1014 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,230 They pretty much give you like a blueprint of how everything 1015 00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:40,130 works on XC from the search engine to SEO, 1016 00:37:40,130 --> 00:37:42,170 to how to build a memorable shop. 1017 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,210 All you have to do is just follow the guide, 1018 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,870 but that's very useful for just pretty much anything that you 1019 00:37:47,870 --> 00:37:48,650 need help with. 1020 00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:51,260 They have a really solid guide, 1021 00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:53,870 but the fact is you have to access it and use 1022 00:37:53,870 --> 00:37:55,280 it Exactly, 1023 00:37:55,460 --> 00:37:57,800 but it's really great because a lot of the things that 1024 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,860 people get stuck on are things that the excavator provides you, 1025 00:38:00,860 --> 00:38:02,510 the tools to help you with it, 1026 00:38:02,510 --> 00:38:04,820 just using it and getting to know the platform, 1027 00:38:04,940 --> 00:38:08,150 but actually is very simple to get started from the beginning. 1028 00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:09,320 When you open the account, 1029 00:38:09,410 --> 00:38:10,670 it tells you step one, 1030 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,510 you name your shop. 1031 00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:12,230 Step two, 1032 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,260 you put your billing information within four steps. 1033 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,880 You already have your store open. 1034 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,640 One thing that you do need to have before you open 1035 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,310 the store is have one listing already. 1036 00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:26,180 So before you even register to open a store, 1037 00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:27,320 have whatever, 1038 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,870 whether you're selling a physical product or digital product, 1039 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:30,950 have that product, 1040 00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:31,670 like the photos, 1041 00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:33,110 the listing description, 1042 00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:36,850 your SEO have that already done because in order for you 1043 00:38:36,850 --> 00:38:37,570 to open the store, 1044 00:38:37,570 --> 00:38:39,430 you have to have one listing available. 1045 00:38:39,870 --> 00:38:42,960 Okay? You have to have at least one to actually open 1046 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,620 the store. 1047 00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:47,100 But how many products would you suggest you have? 1048 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,960 I say in the beginning, 1049 00:38:48,990 --> 00:38:50,070 when you're like, 1050 00:38:50,130 --> 00:38:54,150 before you start marketing really hard have at least 10 to 1051 00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:55,590 like 15 lifting. 1052 00:38:55,590 --> 00:38:57,480 Somebody built up that way. 1053 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,500 When people do start, 1054 00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:00,480 when you start driving traffic to your store, 1055 00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:03,270 or if XC drives traffic back to your store, 1056 00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:06,990 organically, you have listings and it doesn't look like an empty 1057 00:39:06,990 --> 00:39:09,090 store. There are going to be the people that are going 1058 00:39:09,090 --> 00:39:11,280 to engage with your brand and start looking at your products. 1059 00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:14,130 I never say this a magical number when it comes to 1060 00:39:14,130 --> 00:39:16,770 how many listings I have to have to have sales, 1061 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,600 because I have seen stores that literally have 24 products and 1062 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,540 they make more money than stores that have 2000 products. 1063 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:30,060 What's the difference between a listing of a product that can 1064 00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:31,530 be repetitively purchased. 1065 00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:32,220 Like let's say, 1066 00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:35,430 just candles versus a customized product. 1067 00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:37,380 That might be only one of a kind. 1068 00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:38,490 You want to know, 1069 00:39:38,490 --> 00:39:42,180 like the difference of like how you promote it And buys 1070 00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:43,560 a one of a kind, 1071 00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:44,760 because I've made it an, 1072 00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:48,390 all of my jackets that I make are different. 1073 00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:49,350 They all look different. 1074 00:39:49,350 --> 00:39:51,660 So I put pictures up and if they sell, 1075 00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:56,550 then it's no longer available versus someone who lets go with 1076 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:57,240 knitting scarves. 1077 00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:00,240 Since we were talking about that earlier can continue to make 1078 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:02,100 the same one over and over again, 1079 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,500 regardless of how many are sold on the site. 1080 00:40:04,530 --> 00:40:08,130 So it's like a onetime off versus option for multiples. 1081 00:40:08,850 --> 00:40:11,040 I think the main difference is exactly what you just said. 1082 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,850 The one product is more personalized while the other product, 1083 00:40:14,970 --> 00:40:17,460 multiple people could buy it and have the same product. 1084 00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:20,640 I think when you sell something that's personalized, 1085 00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:25,410 you have to make sure that you voice that not only 1086 00:40:25,410 --> 00:40:26,640 on the listing description, 1087 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,340 but also on the photos and just let people know, 1088 00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:32,910 this is one of a kind that you can get elsewhere. 1089 00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:35,610 Do you have Manually pull it off once it's sold, 1090 00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:36,720 then Yes. 1091 00:40:36,750 --> 00:40:37,860 You could do two options. 1092 00:40:37,860 --> 00:40:39,540 You could have it out over renew, 1093 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,360 especially if you know that you could recreate it again, 1094 00:40:42,510 --> 00:40:45,420 right? Maybe you do a different variation when it's something very 1095 00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:46,710 personalized like that. 1096 00:40:46,770 --> 00:40:47,400 A lot of times, 1097 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,450 it's not like you said, 1098 00:40:48,450 --> 00:40:50,430 it's not the same thing that you're selling over and over. 1099 00:40:50,430 --> 00:40:51,360 It's going to be different. 1100 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,950 So you could auto renew. 1101 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:54,870 If you know that you're going to be able to add 1102 00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:56,850 another personalized item like that. 1103 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,920 But if you know that this is one of a kind 1104 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,560 only, and you can't be produced it again, 1105 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,370 for some reason, 1106 00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:04,100 then you want out of renewal, 1107 00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:04,650 you would just, 1108 00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:06,780 once it's sold that one quantity, 1109 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,850 it would deactivate the listing. 1110 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:10,560 That's how we would normally do it. 1111 00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:14,370 That a little bit feels like a nightmare of doing that. 1112 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,770 But what I could see someone doing is let's say you 1113 00:41:16,770 --> 00:41:18,780 have these customized jackets, 1114 00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:19,500 for example, 1115 00:41:19,590 --> 00:41:23,190 and maybe you have one picture that's all in like red, 1116 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:25,470 black and gray tones. 1117 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,420 And then you would say in your description, 1118 00:41:27,450 --> 00:41:29,070 these are all one of a kind, 1119 00:41:29,370 --> 00:41:31,980 and this is the color tone of this option. 1120 00:41:31,980 --> 00:41:34,010 And then you might have another that's blue, 1121 00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:35,300 green, and yellow or something. 1122 00:41:35,890 --> 00:41:38,320 Exactly. Or even with the candle situation, 1123 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,320 if you have a candle that is personalized in a way 1124 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,890 that maybe you put a person's name on the candle, 1125 00:41:45,250 --> 00:41:47,140 you could resell that over and over. 1126 00:41:47,350 --> 00:41:49,990 It's still a unique product because what you're changing is the 1127 00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:50,800 person's name. 1128 00:41:51,340 --> 00:41:53,920 And that's probably in that order checkout process where you have 1129 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,600 the option of putting in that information. 1130 00:41:56,170 --> 00:41:56,890 Yes it is. 1131 00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:59,440 Yes. Once the person buys a personalized item, 1132 00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:02,860 they get this little box it's called note to seller and 1133 00:42:02,860 --> 00:42:05,350 that's where they put their personal lives information. 1134 00:42:05,350 --> 00:42:08,710 On what color you choosing for your jacket or what name 1135 00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:09,970 you're putting on the candle? 1136 00:42:09,970 --> 00:42:13,000 Or what names are you putting on the digital sign that 1137 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,450 they're buying, 1138 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,770 whatever they're buying at that moment. 1139 00:42:14,860 --> 00:42:15,640 Okay. Alright. 1140 00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:17,230 So walk through for us, 1141 00:42:17,230 --> 00:42:18,100 if you will. 1142 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,770 Just so we get a feel for the sales process. 1143 00:42:20,770 --> 00:42:22,180 So now we have our shop up, 1144 00:42:22,450 --> 00:42:25,690 someone comes in and we've set it up properly, 1145 00:42:25,810 --> 00:42:29,200 all the right way with all the information SEL like everything 1146 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:29,710 you've said, 1147 00:42:29,710 --> 00:42:30,640 so we're good to go. 1148 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,800 You would give them an a plus for putting up their 1149 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,820 shop. Okay. 1150 00:42:34,750 --> 00:42:38,770 And someone comes in and buys like, 1151 00:42:38,980 --> 00:42:40,420 okay, that's exciting, 1152 00:42:40,450 --> 00:42:42,550 but how do we find out about it? 1153 00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:45,100 And then what's the process for us to fulfill the role? 1154 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,270 The first thing I recommend is having the seller X, 1155 00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:52,240 the app in your phone and your mobile device. 1156 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,050 So there's an app for buyers and it's an app for 1157 00:42:56,050 --> 00:42:58,210 sellers. So you need the sellers one. 1158 00:42:58,540 --> 00:43:01,390 And what happens is normally when you get a sale, 1159 00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:04,060 you get a notification through your email. 1160 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:05,440 But if you have the app, 1161 00:43:05,470 --> 00:43:07,810 you get a notification straight through your phone, 1162 00:43:08,650 --> 00:43:10,360 Okay. And then you jump up and down cause it's your 1163 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,230 very first sale. 1164 00:43:11,230 --> 00:43:12,670 And it's super exciting. 1165 00:43:12,910 --> 00:43:18,910 Totally. And you hear strategic also as well versus when you 1166 00:43:18,910 --> 00:43:20,110 get really excited. 1167 00:43:20,350 --> 00:43:22,690 Okay. The first thing that I would say, 1168 00:43:22,690 --> 00:43:26,200 especially when you're first starting out is to make sure that 1169 00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:28,090 you are on top of your store, 1170 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,890 make sure that you have the app, 1171 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,360 you'll get the notification. 1172 00:43:31,570 --> 00:43:33,220 And then just to make sure that you go to the 1173 00:43:33,220 --> 00:43:37,030 actual order and sometimes people on the note to seller, 1174 00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:39,610 because that's where you send the personalization. 1175 00:43:39,730 --> 00:43:41,560 People ask questions there. 1176 00:43:41,590 --> 00:43:42,520 For some reason, 1177 00:43:42,730 --> 00:43:43,840 it's not meant for that, 1178 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,530 but people do. 1179 00:43:44,530 --> 00:43:46,570 So. The best thing to do is anytime you get a 1180 00:43:46,570 --> 00:43:47,020 new order, 1181 00:43:47,020 --> 00:43:49,300 just briefly look at the order, 1182 00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:50,620 see if there's any questions. 1183 00:43:50,830 --> 00:43:51,730 If there is any, 1184 00:43:51,730 --> 00:43:53,680 they're just putting the information that they need. 1185 00:43:53,950 --> 00:43:55,270 Then you have that window, 1186 00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:57,880 whatever window you put in one to two days on toast 1187 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,530 ship or one through five days, 1188 00:43:59,530 --> 00:44:01,240 depending on your schedule, 1189 00:44:01,660 --> 00:44:04,030 create the item or you personalize the item. 1190 00:44:04,450 --> 00:44:05,980 And once you have it ready, 1191 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,290 obviously if it's a digital product, 1192 00:44:08,350 --> 00:44:11,890 you would send it to them through the ECC message. 1193 00:44:12,310 --> 00:44:14,080 If it is a physical product, 1194 00:44:14,260 --> 00:44:15,850 you will ship it to the customer. 1195 00:44:16,060 --> 00:44:17,350 I think for shipping products, 1196 00:44:17,350 --> 00:44:18,280 I don't ship. 1197 00:44:18,670 --> 00:44:21,790 But one thing that I have learned from my ECC support 1198 00:44:21,790 --> 00:44:23,410 group, I have over 30,000 1199 00:44:23,410 --> 00:44:24,250 members in that group, 1200 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,750 is that a lot of them, 1201 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:30,040 what they do is that they confirm the shipping address before 1202 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:30,940 they ship it to the, 1203 00:44:31,830 --> 00:44:35,070 because a lot of people have an ECC account for years, 1204 00:44:35,250 --> 00:44:36,000 they moved, 1205 00:44:36,270 --> 00:44:37,860 but never changed their shipping address. 1206 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,100 Oh, interesting point. 1207 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,770 That's a big one that I have seen. 1208 00:44:42,770 --> 00:44:45,410 So many people get bad reviews because it was shipped to 1209 00:44:45,410 --> 00:44:46,340 the wrong address. 1210 00:44:46,340 --> 00:44:47,930 And that's the main reason why, 1211 00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:50,630 because the customer never updated their address in the backend. 1212 00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:52,970 So I think that's a big one that you need to 1213 00:44:52,970 --> 00:44:54,590 start doing just to double check, 1214 00:44:54,590 --> 00:44:55,160 just be like, 1215 00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:56,870 Hey, thank you so much for your order. 1216 00:44:57,050 --> 00:44:58,340 We are excited to ship it. 1217 00:44:58,340 --> 00:44:59,060 We're done with it. 1218 00:44:59,060 --> 00:45:00,920 We just want to double check that this is your right 1219 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,950 address. Or just confirming that you're still on Salem street. 1220 00:45:04,130 --> 00:45:05,780 Exactly. Or something like that. 1221 00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:07,790 It doesn't have to be the whole address written out or 1222 00:45:07,790 --> 00:45:10,220 something. It doesn't have to exactly. 1223 00:45:10,220 --> 00:45:12,280 But as long as you at least confirming exactly. 1224 00:45:12,590 --> 00:45:15,590 Plus that starts a conversation with a customer. 1225 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,680 So like there's a reason to do it and it's great 1226 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:19,520 to do it too. 1227 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:23,990 But so your getting the shipping address obviously from Etsy. 1228 00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:25,250 Exactly. Yes. 1229 00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:28,520 Okay. Is there a system where it's already created and you 1230 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,730 can just press print on a computer or a labeling? 1231 00:45:32,780 --> 00:45:33,650 Yes. There is. 1232 00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:38,000 ECC provides you with printing services and you will sign up 1233 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,710 through ECC and they have the pricing. 1234 00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:42,860 Or if you find a different source, 1235 00:45:42,890 --> 00:45:43,760 that's cheaper, 1236 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,310 which a lot of people do on separately. 1237 00:45:46,310 --> 00:45:47,480 You could do that as well, 1238 00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:49,880 but it just depends on the pricing and which one you 1239 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,420 want to use. 1240 00:45:50,660 --> 00:45:53,120 Okay. And probably it depends on your package too, 1241 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,470 like what your product is, 1242 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,180 but you have the options. 1243 00:45:56,180 --> 00:45:57,350 You're not limited in that. 1244 00:45:58,190 --> 00:45:59,900 Exactly. You're not limited at all. 1245 00:46:00,110 --> 00:46:03,170 Okay. So let's get back to this email for a minute. 1246 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,990 Not being able to collect people's emails, 1247 00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:07,760 which I know has been. 1248 00:46:07,790 --> 00:46:09,110 I understand why they do it. 1249 00:46:09,110 --> 00:46:09,800 For sure. 1250 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,910 If you are communicating back and forth to a customer like 1251 00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:15,530 confirming the address, 1252 00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:17,240 can you say, 1253 00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:18,860 Oh, while you're confirming, 1254 00:46:18,860 --> 00:46:20,690 can you share with me your email so we can stay 1255 00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:22,790 connected? I'm guessing that would be, 1256 00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:26,330 They actually let you collect emails. 1257 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,470 The issue with access platform is that it's really hard to 1258 00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:31,910 do so because you know how, 1259 00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:33,170 when you have your own website, 1260 00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:36,050 you have like little popups or you could tell a customer 1261 00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:38,810 click here to join our email and they just click on 1262 00:46:38,810 --> 00:46:41,060 ECC. If you add any links, 1263 00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:42,050 whether it's Facebook, 1264 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,220 email, anything, 1265 00:46:43,220 --> 00:46:44,510 that's South side of ECC, 1266 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,060 that link doesn't become a hyperlink, 1267 00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:50,780 right? So now if you having your listing description, 1268 00:46:50,820 --> 00:46:53,000 make sure that you join our email list too. 1269 00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:54,190 As a first time customer, 1270 00:46:54,220 --> 00:46:55,130 you get 10% off. 1271 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:55,880 Here's the link. 1272 00:46:56,270 --> 00:46:57,620 They can click on the link. 1273 00:46:57,650 --> 00:47:02,480 They have to copy and paste in order to go ahead 1274 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,860 and sign up for that coupon. 1275 00:47:04,070 --> 00:47:07,010 Majority of people are not going to do that, 1276 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,820 unfortunately, because we just want everything easy and fast. 1277 00:47:11,180 --> 00:47:15,080 And that's the hard part about growing an email is having 1278 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,780 just an ECC store versus when you have a website that 1279 00:47:17,780 --> 00:47:19,820 you could collect emails really simple, 1280 00:47:20,090 --> 00:47:21,890 but it shouldn't stop you though. 1281 00:47:21,890 --> 00:47:22,910 That's what I'm trying to say. 1282 00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:26,240 Also, I have my email list and my banner, 1283 00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:28,040 I have it in my shop announcement. 1284 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,410 I have another link my, 1285 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,680 about me and I'm starting to incorporate it on all my 1286 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,670 listings as well. 1287 00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:35,980 You should still promote it because you're going to get the 1288 00:47:35,980 --> 00:47:38,290 occasional person that will go ahead and copy and paste. 1289 00:47:38,860 --> 00:47:39,850 So answer your question. 1290 00:47:39,850 --> 00:47:41,200 Yes. You could ask the person, 1291 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:41,890 Hey, by the way, 1292 00:47:41,890 --> 00:47:42,490 since you know, 1293 00:47:42,490 --> 00:47:43,540 whatever you're talking about, 1294 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,980 you already built report with them. 1295 00:47:44,980 --> 00:47:46,570 They feel a little bit more comfortable with you. 1296 00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:47,710 You could ask them, 1297 00:47:47,710 --> 00:47:49,600 would you mind if I add you to an email list? 1298 00:47:49,630 --> 00:47:52,360 As long as you ask them X he's okay with it. 1299 00:47:52,740 --> 00:47:53,640 Could you say, 1300 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:54,570 you know how it is? 1301 00:47:54,570 --> 00:47:54,810 And like, 1302 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,820 nobody wants to get on another email list, 1303 00:47:56,850 --> 00:47:58,380 right? But could you say, 1304 00:47:58,410 --> 00:48:00,210 Hey, thanks for shopping at my store. 1305 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:01,350 Just confirming, 1306 00:48:01,410 --> 00:48:03,870 I'm going to ship this over to you on Salem Avenue. 1307 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,770 No, whatever. 1308 00:48:05,070 --> 00:48:08,280 Also, if you're willing to share with me your email address, 1309 00:48:08,550 --> 00:48:11,130 I'll send you a coupon for your next order. 1310 00:48:11,610 --> 00:48:12,600 Yeah. And you can say that, 1311 00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:14,220 of course You can say that. 1312 00:48:14,220 --> 00:48:16,020 And then it's okay if they respond and say, 1313 00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:17,040 yes, I'm on Salem. 1314 00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:20,070 And here's my email Long as they give you the email 1315 00:48:20,070 --> 00:48:23,010 and you're not just grabbing it from your dashboard. 1316 00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:25,320 Can I like that a lot better now. 1317 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,790 And XC also has two integrations that they work with. 1318 00:48:29,820 --> 00:48:32,940 They work with a Weber and they work with mail folder. 1319 00:48:32,970 --> 00:48:34,710 You could use any email providers. 1320 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:35,490 Yeah. Okay. 1321 00:48:35,490 --> 00:48:38,040 So they work with a Weber and who else? 1322 00:48:38,340 --> 00:48:43,080 And mail folder fold F O L D mail fold. 1323 00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:45,690 Okay. So once you're registered in your account, 1324 00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:48,870 if you go to your dashboard, 1325 00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:51,690 if you go to settings and you go to integrations, 1326 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,810 you're going to see all the third party apps that they 1327 00:48:54,810 --> 00:48:55,500 work with, 1328 00:48:55,530 --> 00:48:57,030 that they are partnered with, 1329 00:48:57,330 --> 00:48:59,280 that you could use without feeling like, 1330 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,020 is my account going to get suspended? 1331 00:49:01,140 --> 00:49:02,490 Am I not allowed to use? 1332 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,950 You could see all the lists of different tools, 1333 00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:05,790 not just email. 1334 00:49:06,180 --> 00:49:06,960 Okay, perfect. 1335 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,000 And I got to say that it's a used to be 1336 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:09,780 the only one, 1337 00:49:09,810 --> 00:49:13,050 but the advantage of several other platforms come in where there's 1338 00:49:13,050 --> 00:49:17,370 a focus on handmade products only makes Etsy then want to 1339 00:49:17,370 --> 00:49:18,120 be stronger, 1340 00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:20,670 let you do more because they've got more competition. 1341 00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:23,100 So everyone gets better when those things happen. 1342 00:49:23,490 --> 00:49:25,340 Exactly. And they have done better. 1343 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,180 So many more resources now. 1344 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,700 Exactly more options for us. 1345 00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:34,230 So that's all good to finalize this out. 1346 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,500 Share with us a little bit about the behind the scenes 1347 00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:41,430 numbers, the insights or the statistics or whatever it's called over 1348 00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:44,850 there. What can you learn about who's coming and how can 1349 00:49:44,850 --> 00:49:47,100 you use that information to help grow your shop? 1350 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:48,390 Oh, I mean, 1351 00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:49,740 it's just amazing. 1352 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,960 You could do market research on Etsy, 1353 00:49:52,380 --> 00:49:53,220 on the search feed. 1354 00:49:53,220 --> 00:49:55,860 You just type in whatever you're looking for that is relevant 1355 00:49:55,860 --> 00:49:59,160 to what you're selling or you could use a quicker way. 1356 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,600 Is he rank.com? 1357 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,850 Yeah. That's the one you talked about earlier. 1358 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,450 Yes. And they're highly recommended because all the data from Iran 1359 00:50:06,510 --> 00:50:08,730 is pooled directly from ECC. 1360 00:50:08,730 --> 00:50:10,980 So the information is very relevant. 1361 00:50:10,980 --> 00:50:13,380 It's not like another tool that has nothing to do with 1362 00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:15,480 that. When you go in there, 1363 00:50:15,570 --> 00:50:19,680 you're able to view top sellers by categories, 1364 00:50:20,190 --> 00:50:22,950 by countries and when they open their store. 1365 00:50:23,340 --> 00:50:24,180 In my opinion, 1366 00:50:24,330 --> 00:50:27,650 that is a really great tool for market research because you're 1367 00:50:27,710 --> 00:50:28,910 first starting an ECC, 1368 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,490 or you have an idea you want to sell personal life 1369 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,460 candles, but you don't know if they do really well on 1370 00:50:34,460 --> 00:50:35,270 XC or not. 1371 00:50:35,330 --> 00:50:37,880 Well, you could do is do market research on the rank. 1372 00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:41,960 And you could look for stores that sell candles and they 1373 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,940 are in your area in your country. 1374 00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:46,490 Or if you want to do worldwide and you could start 1375 00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:49,610 doing market research that way and start seeing what are their 1376 00:50:49,610 --> 00:50:50,600 best sellers. 1377 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,160 So you could get an idea. 1378 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,890 You can start seeing how many sales they get per day, 1379 00:50:55,130 --> 00:50:56,420 how much money they're making. 1380 00:50:56,420 --> 00:50:57,380 You can see everything. 1381 00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:58,870 Okay. Perfect. 1382 00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:01,660 Are you also able to see things kind of like you 1383 00:51:01,660 --> 00:51:04,540 can, when you have your own website with Google analytics, 1384 00:51:04,540 --> 00:51:07,330 where you can see which products people are looking at, 1385 00:51:07,390 --> 00:51:10,210 how quickly they're jumping off of your pages, 1386 00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:12,910 are you able to access all of that type of information 1387 00:51:12,910 --> 00:51:13,420 as well? 1388 00:51:13,660 --> 00:51:14,380 Yes, you can. 1389 00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:16,690 You actually have to connect your store. 1390 00:51:16,750 --> 00:51:19,540 Yourself was a very simple process. 1391 00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:22,600 You connect your store to Google analytics. 1392 00:51:22,750 --> 00:51:23,380 Oh, okay. 1393 00:51:23,590 --> 00:51:24,910 Well, I highly recommend it. 1394 00:51:24,910 --> 00:51:26,380 Just like when you have your website, 1395 00:51:26,380 --> 00:51:29,410 you should also connect it to Google analytics because XC just 1396 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,800 gives you so much information about how people find you on 1397 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,510 the Etsy search feed, 1398 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,000 but you don't know how they found you before that. 1399 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,140 Did they come from Pinterest? 1400 00:51:38,350 --> 00:51:39,850 And it gave you a little bit information, 1401 00:51:39,850 --> 00:51:41,230 but we Google analytics, 1402 00:51:41,860 --> 00:51:43,900 the real cool thing about Google analytics. 1403 00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:46,000 Once you connect your store to Google analytics, 1404 00:51:46,030 --> 00:51:48,490 you're able to see real time how many people are in 1405 00:51:48,490 --> 00:51:49,510 your store right now. 1406 00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:51,880 So you're able to see six people are in my store 1407 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,080 right now at this second, 1408 00:51:53,350 --> 00:51:55,750 you're able to see what pages they're browsing. 1409 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,990 You're able to see where those people came from. 1410 00:51:59,230 --> 00:52:02,470 You could see so much data on Google analytics compared to 1411 00:52:02,470 --> 00:52:05,080 ACCE. But what you do is you combine both of them 1412 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,340 together to start your marketing strategy and take your business to 1413 00:52:09,340 --> 00:52:10,180 the next level, 1414 00:52:10,570 --> 00:52:12,850 because you're able to see like behavior, 1415 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:13,720 like you're able to see, 1416 00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:16,600 okay, what platforms are really driving me traffic. 1417 00:52:17,140 --> 00:52:19,540 So what platform should I perform a little bit more? 1418 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:19,960 Or have a, 1419 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,670 like a content strategy there. 1420 00:52:21,820 --> 00:52:24,100 So, so much information that you're going to get. 1421 00:52:24,250 --> 00:52:26,440 I think that's one of the things that is not used 1422 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,820 as often as they should be. 1423 00:52:28,180 --> 00:52:30,760 Another thing I've found with one of my clients is we 1424 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,910 were looking at analytics and she was seeing that a lot 1425 00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:37,570 of people were landing on a specific product in her store, 1426 00:52:37,810 --> 00:52:39,400 but they weren't buying it. 1427 00:52:39,580 --> 00:52:42,880 But they were leading to other secondary products and making a 1428 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,950 purchase. If originally you just said, 1429 00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:46,570 Oh, I'm not getting sales for product. 1430 00:52:46,570 --> 00:52:47,110 Number one, 1431 00:52:47,110 --> 00:52:48,250 that first product, 1432 00:52:48,340 --> 00:52:51,190 it's still serving a purpose because for some reason, 1433 00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:55,150 that's what people landed on when they searched and they're still 1434 00:52:55,150 --> 00:52:58,060 buying. So if someone were to eliminate that product because of 1435 00:52:58,060 --> 00:53:01,060 that, they could lose those sales because they never found her 1436 00:53:01,060 --> 00:53:02,170 in the first place. 1437 00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:07,120 Exactly. They could be selling something that one product organically they're 1438 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,290 ranking really well. 1439 00:53:08,410 --> 00:53:10,900 Like the ranking on the first page of ECC, 1440 00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:12,400 maybe it's the first page of Google. 1441 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,570 So that one product is driving tons of organic traffic to 1442 00:53:16,570 --> 00:53:17,410 the other product. 1443 00:53:17,410 --> 00:53:18,400 Like you just mentioned. 1444 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,060 So sometimes it is so important to look at your data 1445 00:53:22,060 --> 00:53:23,830 because some people start, 1446 00:53:23,860 --> 00:53:25,560 they add products and they remove it. 1447 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,520 And I always tell people, 1448 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,060 you gotta like, 1449 00:53:27,090 --> 00:53:28,050 let us sit there, 1450 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,190 collect the data, 1451 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,360 analyze the data, 1452 00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:33,240 and then make an informed decision of what's working and what's 1453 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:33,870 not working, 1454 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,310 but you need to look at it first. 1455 00:53:35,310 --> 00:53:35,910 Like you said, 1456 00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:38,240 right? Do you need to give it time to do its 1457 00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:39,770 thing, whatever that's going to be. 1458 00:53:39,830 --> 00:53:42,230 And then you look at it and then you make decisions 1459 00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:43,820 accordingly. Exactly. 1460 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,360 Wonderful. This has been such great information. 1461 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,710 Do you want to say something to kind of summarize opportunities 1462 00:53:51,710 --> 00:53:52,850 that are available on Etsy? 1463 00:53:53,300 --> 00:53:53,870 Oh yes. 1464 00:53:53,900 --> 00:53:56,870 One thing I want to tell people is that with ECC 1465 00:53:56,900 --> 00:54:00,740 treat it like a real business is such an amazing platform 1466 00:54:00,740 --> 00:54:01,640 for anyone out there, 1467 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,640 like moms that stay at home or anyone that wants to 1468 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,870 start their own business, 1469 00:54:05,930 --> 00:54:07,850 but don't want to spend too much money, 1470 00:54:07,850 --> 00:54:08,780 creating a business. 1471 00:54:08,810 --> 00:54:10,280 It's a great platform. 1472 00:54:10,550 --> 00:54:11,690 And on top of that, 1473 00:54:11,810 --> 00:54:14,600 just being able to have a unique voice, 1474 00:54:14,690 --> 00:54:17,840 a place as you could brand it for your voice to 1475 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,500 come out, 1476 00:54:18,650 --> 00:54:21,920 to create something that's amazing for other people that they will 1477 00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:23,300 want to buy from you. 1478 00:54:23,660 --> 00:54:25,490 But just started. 1479 00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:27,500 If you're in the fence of starting exi, 1480 00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:30,860 just start trying it and you're going to make mistakes, 1481 00:54:30,860 --> 00:54:32,540 but don't let fear stop. 1482 00:54:32,540 --> 00:54:35,660 You keep pushing through and build a store. 1483 00:54:35,710 --> 00:54:36,380 You're going to try, 1484 00:54:36,380 --> 00:54:37,040 you're going to fail. 1485 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,260 You're going to be successful with it as well. 1486 00:54:39,530 --> 00:54:42,230 And the thing is just starting to quote, 1487 00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:42,680 that says, 1488 00:54:42,890 --> 00:54:44,570 you don't have to be great to start, 1489 00:54:44,570 --> 00:54:46,340 but you have to start to be great. 1490 00:54:46,610 --> 00:54:49,250 And that's essentially what you have to do with ECC. 1491 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,160 And it's such an easy platform to use, 1492 00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:54,920 and they give you all the resources that you need. 1493 00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:56,270 In addition to that, 1494 00:54:56,300 --> 00:54:58,340 the seller's handbook is amazing. 1495 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,580 There's so much value in there to help you grow as 1496 00:55:01,580 --> 00:55:02,270 an Etsy seller, 1497 00:55:02,270 --> 00:55:04,850 that once you start using it on a regular basis, 1498 00:55:04,850 --> 00:55:05,990 you're going to say to yourself, 1499 00:55:06,260 --> 00:55:08,180 why didn't I use this before? 1500 00:55:08,570 --> 00:55:10,430 And a great thing about the handbook. 1501 00:55:10,730 --> 00:55:12,260 When I create content, 1502 00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:14,540 I create content based on what ECC wants. 1503 00:55:14,570 --> 00:55:15,800 Not on my opinion. 1504 00:55:16,010 --> 00:55:17,210 Yes. I have my opinion. 1505 00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:17,510 I say, 1506 00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:19,850 these are things that I do that has helped me, 1507 00:55:20,180 --> 00:55:22,460 but I try to base everything on what ECC wants, 1508 00:55:22,460 --> 00:55:26,240 because ultimately it's their platform and they do change stuff on 1509 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:26,960 a regular basis. 1510 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,940 I try to keep up with that information. 1511 00:55:29,150 --> 00:55:32,210 And that's another reason why you need to use those resources 1512 00:55:32,210 --> 00:55:34,370 because it's the most accurate information out there. 1513 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:39,260 Perfect. So if you're somebody probably after the first part of 1514 00:55:39,260 --> 00:55:39,770 this year, 1515 00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:42,860 how we've been where so many physical locations have been shut 1516 00:55:42,860 --> 00:55:43,700 down, right? 1517 00:55:43,730 --> 00:55:47,240 But if you're used to being out at craft shows every 1518 00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:49,610 single weekend or trade shows or whatever, 1519 00:55:49,610 --> 00:55:52,820 and you've never had really an online presence yet, 1520 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,680 or you're just starting out and you're thinking, 1521 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,750 okay, I'm going to have both at see, 1522 00:55:56,750 --> 00:56:00,110 seems like such a good solution for all the reasons that 1523 00:56:00,110 --> 00:56:01,970 we've talked about through this whole time. 1524 00:56:02,270 --> 00:56:04,160 Like you have the flexibility to adjust. 1525 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,920 Once you've done your first product validation, 1526 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,570 you can change your name. 1527 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,870 You can test how products are selling and it can be 1528 00:56:11,930 --> 00:56:16,030 your entrance point into e-commerce in a very easy, 1529 00:56:16,940 --> 00:56:20,360 Yeah, we could start with taxi and then once you feel 1530 00:56:20,450 --> 00:56:22,430 more comfortable and you start getting the hang of it, 1531 00:56:22,430 --> 00:56:25,000 you could start yourself out of Lexia as well. 1532 00:56:25,210 --> 00:56:26,530 You could have a website, 1533 00:56:26,530 --> 00:56:28,420 you could start using social media. 1534 00:56:28,450 --> 00:56:31,390 You could do maybe even YouTube and create videos on how 1535 00:56:31,390 --> 00:56:32,680 you create your products. 1536 00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:35,290 A lot of people feel if I show people how to 1537 00:56:35,290 --> 00:56:35,680 do this, 1538 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,820 they're going to steal my idea. 1539 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:37,780 You'd be surprised. 1540 00:56:37,780 --> 00:56:39,310 There's so many people you could tell them, 1541 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:40,420 this is how I did it. 1542 00:56:40,420 --> 00:56:41,590 And they still don't do it. 1543 00:56:41,970 --> 00:56:43,680 Or they might try it once and be like, 1544 00:56:43,710 --> 00:56:45,450 either I don't have the talent to do it. 1545 00:56:45,690 --> 00:56:47,190 Or this is so hard. 1546 00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:49,020 I will never try this again. 1547 00:56:50,370 --> 00:56:53,340 I think the point back to Etsy is that your time 1548 00:56:53,340 --> 00:56:55,500 is not lost if you have a presence on that seat, 1549 00:56:55,530 --> 00:56:58,470 because it can compliment other things that you add on down 1550 00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:58,980 the road. 1551 00:56:59,220 --> 00:57:00,090 So Nancy, 1552 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,650 where can people find you? 1553 00:57:01,650 --> 00:57:05,010 And also tell us more about your support group and what 1554 00:57:05,010 --> 00:57:05,610 it's called? 1555 00:57:06,090 --> 00:57:07,860 Oh, of course people could find me. 1556 00:57:07,860 --> 00:57:10,590 I think the best place is my website is Nancy, 1557 00:57:10,590 --> 00:57:12,000 but the joe.com 1558 00:57:12,420 --> 00:57:15,660 and there you'll be able to find other resources that you 1559 00:57:15,660 --> 00:57:17,070 could use as an ACCE seller. 1560 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,660 And my support group is called ECC sellers support group. 1561 00:57:22,110 --> 00:57:24,270 And once you find that you should be able to see 1562 00:57:24,270 --> 00:57:25,110 the about me. 1563 00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:28,110 And I'll say this group is hosted by Nancy buddy, 1564 00:57:28,110 --> 00:57:29,910 Joe. So that's the way you will know that that's my 1565 00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:31,800 group. I have currently, 1566 00:57:31,860 --> 00:57:33,480 I believe we have 30,000 1567 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,400 members a little bit over 30,000 1568 00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:38,550 and this group is strictly for support. 1569 00:57:38,550 --> 00:57:39,210 So it's not, 1570 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,210 there's other groups that you promote your products and services. 1571 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,190 This group is specifically for, 1572 00:57:44,190 --> 00:57:45,030 if you're stuck. 1573 00:57:45,330 --> 00:57:46,440 If you have a question about, 1574 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:47,130 Hey, you know, 1575 00:57:47,370 --> 00:57:49,200 I've been on that actually for six months, 1576 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,490 I only got in three sales. 1577 00:57:50,670 --> 00:57:51,930 What are some things I could do? 1578 00:57:51,930 --> 00:57:54,960 You could drop your link and actually people go and give 1579 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,760 you like a free mini critique. 1580 00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:58,020 I have amazing, 1581 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,820 amazing support in that group. 1582 00:58:00,150 --> 00:58:01,860 Everyone helps each other out. 1583 00:58:01,860 --> 00:58:03,600 So if you put one post, 1584 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,740 normally I'll get like 15 people to respond within 20 minutes 1585 00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:09,240 already trying to help somebody. 1586 00:58:09,420 --> 00:58:11,130 So it's a support group. 1587 00:58:11,310 --> 00:58:13,110 Wonderful. I love it. 1588 00:58:13,230 --> 00:58:14,790 Nancy, thank you so much. 1589 00:58:14,790 --> 00:58:17,100 I think a lot of us have been enlightened about the 1590 00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:18,180 ways of Etsy. 1591 00:58:18,210 --> 00:58:21,660 It's an exciting platform and you've cleared up some things for 1592 00:58:21,660 --> 00:58:24,030 us. So I look forward to you guys, 1593 00:58:24,030 --> 00:58:25,080 give biz listeners, 1594 00:58:25,110 --> 00:58:28,380 letting us know if you start a site on Etsy could 1595 00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:30,750 jump over to maybe Instagram, 1596 00:58:30,750 --> 00:58:32,910 follow both Nancy and me. 1597 00:58:32,910 --> 00:58:36,480 If you haven't already gift biz on rapt and let us 1598 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,410 know in the DMS, 1599 00:58:37,410 --> 00:58:39,360 if you've started your Etsy account, 1600 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,580 I also wanted to mention Sue, 1601 00:58:41,580 --> 00:58:45,420 if you don't mind for your wonderful people that listen to 1602 00:58:45,420 --> 00:58:47,010 you, but your audience, 1603 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,730 I have an actual course where I teach people not only 1604 00:58:50,730 --> 00:58:52,560 how to build in our principle business, 1605 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,770 but how to use social media and branding to leverage their 1606 00:58:55,770 --> 00:58:57,180 business to the next level. 1607 00:58:57,540 --> 00:58:59,550 So for your followers, 1608 00:58:59,820 --> 00:59:00,900 if they're interested, 1609 00:59:00,900 --> 00:59:03,900 they could get $200 off the course to sign up is 1610 00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:04,380 they're interested. 1611 00:59:04,830 --> 00:59:07,200 Okay. And would they just go over to your website and 1612 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,340 find out about it? 1613 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:09,510 I did was, 1614 00:59:09,540 --> 00:59:12,960 I'll send you the information and you'll have like a special 1615 00:59:12,990 --> 00:59:16,020 coupon that you use and then maybe you could put it 1616 00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:17,100 below the podcast. 1617 00:59:17,610 --> 00:59:18,600 So give biz listeners, 1618 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:19,740 we'll put it in the show notes. 1619 00:59:19,770 --> 00:59:20,970 So if you're interested, 1620 00:59:21,050 --> 00:59:22,580 knowing more about Nancy's course, 1621 00:59:22,610 --> 00:59:25,250 just jump over to the show notes down where I have 1622 00:59:25,250 --> 00:59:28,190 resources that were mentioned in the show will be all the 1623 00:59:28,190 --> 00:59:29,690 resources Nancy's mentioned. 1624 00:59:29,690 --> 00:59:31,370 So he reign the Etsy, 1625 00:59:31,370 --> 00:59:32,270 sellers, handbook, 1626 00:59:32,300 --> 00:59:32,960 all of that, 1627 00:59:32,990 --> 00:59:36,410 but also whatever the discount code is or the link or 1628 00:59:36,410 --> 00:59:37,400 whatever you're going to give me, 1629 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,860 Nancy, we'll have that sitting right there as well. 1630 00:59:40,070 --> 00:59:40,790 Okay. Perfect. 1631 00:59:41,210 --> 00:59:42,230 Okay. Wonderful. 1632 00:59:44,690 --> 00:59:45,740 Oh, thank you. 1633 00:59:45,890 --> 00:59:46,310 I really, 1634 00:59:46,310 --> 00:59:47,930 really appreciate your time today. 1635 00:59:48,110 --> 00:59:48,740 Take care, 1636 00:59:49,070 --> 00:59:55,100 Utah. Now, 1637 00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:59,690 you know all about selling and strengthening your brand on Etsy. 1638 00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:03,620 Remember the show notes page for links to everything we discussed. 1639 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,090 And seriously, 1640 01:00:05,420 --> 01:00:07,310 I want to know about your store. 1641 01:00:07,340 --> 01:00:10,820 If you're already on Etsy or start up on this platform, 1642 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,560 here's how you can tell me, 1643 01:00:12,860 --> 01:00:14,870 just jump over to Instagram, 1644 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,360 follow gift biz unwrapped. 1645 01:00:17,390 --> 01:00:18,590 If you aren't already, 1646 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,100 and then leave me a direct message telling me about your 1647 01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:24,470 shop. Give me your name so that I can go take 1648 01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:28,580 a peek and I'll definitely send you a private message back. 1649 01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:32,900 Alright, that's a wrap for part five of our six part 1650 01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:36,500 series on eCommerce sales platforms. 1651 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,910 In our final week, 1652 01:00:37,970 --> 01:00:41,570 we're going to cover an online platform that quite honestly has 1653 01:00:41,570 --> 01:00:43,490 a lot of us confused. 1654 01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:46,460 And I'm talking about Google my business, 1655 01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:49,010 find out who it's right for, 1656 01:00:49,070 --> 01:00:50,900 because surprise, 1657 01:00:51,230 --> 01:00:54,200 it's not set up for all handmade businesses. 1658 01:00:54,830 --> 01:00:58,100 Let's clear up who should and should not be on Google 1659 01:00:58,100 --> 01:00:58,910 my business. 1660 01:00:59,180 --> 01:01:00,470 And if it's right for you, 1661 01:01:00,710 --> 01:01:04,310 how to do it correctly and use Google my business to 1662 01:01:04,310 --> 01:01:05,270 bring in sales, 1663 01:01:06,140 --> 01:01:07,220 make sure to subscribe, 1664 01:01:07,250 --> 01:01:08,690 to gift biz unwrapped. 1665 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:09,980 If you haven't already, 1666 01:01:10,190 --> 01:01:13,970 that allows the next episode to automatically be downloaded, 1667 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,500 ready, and waiting for you. 1668 01:01:15,500 --> 01:01:17,600 First thing next Monday morning, 1669 01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:20,000 did you know that if you're not subscribed, 1670 01:01:20,270 --> 01:01:23,750 sometimes it takes hours for the episode to become available to 1671 01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:25,760 you, but not when you subscribe. 1672 01:01:25,850 --> 01:01:27,800 So don't forget, 1673 01:01:27,890 --> 01:01:29,420 take a moment and do it right now. 1674 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,190 And finally, 1675 01:01:31,310 --> 01:01:32,570 until next week, 1676 01:01:32,660 --> 01:01:35,510 remember you can catch me live in the breeze for those 1677 01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:36,920 Q and a questions. 1678 01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:39,860 Even if you don't have a question it's so valuable to 1679 01:01:39,860 --> 01:01:42,050 learn from other people's questions. 1680 01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:45,170 You'll hear more about that group in the outro clip, 1681 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:46,610 closing out this show. 1682 01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:48,860 And that happens right now. 1683 01:01:49,220 --> 01:01:49,880 Be safe, 1684 01:01:49,940 --> 01:01:50,630 be well. 1685 01:01:50,750 --> 01:01:53,360 And I look forward to being together again next week. 1686 01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:58,420 I want to make sure you're familiar with my free Facebook 1687 01:01:58,420 --> 01:02:00,940 group called gift is breeze. 1688 01:02:01,330 --> 01:02:05,140 It's a place where we all gather and our community to 1689 01:02:05,140 --> 01:02:06,370 support each other. 1690 01:02:06,830 --> 01:02:08,950 Got a really fun post in there. 1691 01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:10,330 That's my favorite of the week. 1692 01:02:10,330 --> 01:02:13,240 I have to say where I invite all of you to 1693 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,330 share what you're doing to show pictures of your product, 1694 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,740 to show what you're working on for the week to get 1695 01:02:19,740 --> 01:02:22,710 reaction from other people and just for fun, 1696 01:02:22,710 --> 01:02:26,310 because we all get to see the wonderful products that everybody 1697 01:02:26,310 --> 01:02:30,840 in the community is making my favorite post every single week, 1698 01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:32,250 without doubt. 1699 01:02:32,940 --> 01:02:34,020 Wait, what, 1700 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,540 aren't you part of the group already, 1701 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,590 if not make sure to jump over to Facebook and search 1702 01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:44,070 for the group gift biz breeze don't delay. 1703 01:02:44,550 --> 01:02:46,740 Come join us in gift biz breeze.