[intro music]
Welcome everybody to the Craft Beer Republic! Thanks for drinkin', thanks for
joinin'
I am Greg, of course I am being joined by the sexiest of all the Midwestiest,
and that
is Flex What's up, buddy?
Oh, hello!
That was like, almost Falvinus?
Was it kinda like, was it sexy?
It was somethin'
It happened
I'll take somethin'
Okay, it happened, and I'm not
Beggars can't be choosers
Right, and not soft, so we'll keep goin' And then, joining us for a second
week, we
convinced him to come back around, the head brewer of Pedals and Pints, and
that is Boris
What's happenin', fella?
Hello What's goin' on, guys?
Thanks for comin' back around
Yeah, of course
Makin' the 11-minute drive back on
We're almost in the same hood, so it's kinda like
Yeah
Well, that's convenient
You're, um
Yeah, like, what did I say?
11 minutes?
Like, 11 minutes?
Yeah
So, you're mostly close to Naughty Pine, right?
Uh, less than, what am I, 07 miles away
So, you can walk
I walk the dog to Naughty Pine
Yeah, that's amazing
So
That's the one thing, I love my location of my house, other than there's not a
walkable
brewery
Yeah
It's too bad
But, uh, so jealous
Anyways, follow us on the socials, @CraftBeerPro, @FlexMeBeer_ in between, and
of course, @BorrieTheBlade
on the 'Gram, there
Lots to get to today, we've got some booze news to talk about, some over in
Flex's hood
Ojai
Oh, Ojai
Uh, no, no, Ojai's over here in California
Hey
Dad jokes
Ludicrous libation law, I'm gonna ask everybody a beer question, and much more,
so let's get
into it
Let's, uh, start the hydration off with a review over there from Boris
I love how they sound drunk in the song
I love that, yeah
I hope that was the point
I don't know if it was just coincidence, or what
All right
Well, I'm having, um, a gift from Andrew from Victoria County Beer
Oh, Not Murderer Andrew
Not Murderer Andrew
Nice
Um, we just missed each other, uh, when he dropped these gifts off at the, at
the brewery
Uh, but yeah, he left, uh, left us a four pack, a mixed four pack of, uh, of
beer, and
this one is a collab
This is Ism Brewing in collaboration with Rip Beer Company
Oh, lovely submission
Rip, yeah
Rip is real solid
I've had a couple beers from them up here
This is called Dank Meter
Nice
A West Coast IPA, 67%, and I'm having trouble reading the can because they put
green font
on top of green background, uh, but I pulled up on Tapped, and it is a 43
Wow
Out of 58 check-ins, though
Holy smokes
So this must be a newer collage
Yep
Uh, it says here, West Coast Isle IPA collaboration with Rip Beer Company, M
osaic Dynaboost, Super
Delic Cryo, Rewaka Cryo, Nelson, Helios, that's a new hop to me, and Citra
It may have taken us almost a year, but we could not be more stoked to finally
team up
with our homies and local West Coast heroes from Rip Brewing
We dialed up the Dank Meter to max for this one, kicking off deep tropical
notes of papaya,
star fruit, and gristerminer grapes atop a fat dank layer of OG resin on the
bottom
end
Okay, that's a lot
Wow
So, real fast, gonna drop a little, like, brew nerd lingo here
Mosaic Dynaboost, that's a new product that is a hop extract type of product
that increases
yield for breweries that do West Coast, or I should say, hoppy beers in general
So if you want, like, the mosaic flavor and aroma, but you don't want to lose
yield when
making said beer, you use this product called Dynaboost
Super Delic Cryo is virtually the same, but I believe that's an actual hop
matter
It's just super highly concentrated
So you don't need, let's say you normally put 22 pounds of something hop, you
would
only need like five, so you get the same effect out of five pounds
Is the Dynaboost like a liquid extract?
It's liquid
Oh, okay
And Dynaboost, I believe, is Whirlpool edition, so the hot side
And when you do Whirlpool, like, you do drop in on a 10 to 15 barrel batch,
five and a
half to like 22 pounds of hops
So it's a lot of hops, it's a lot of matter
Well, if you can reduce all of that and achieve the same flavor and aroma by
just dropping
six ounces of an extract that is pure hop, then you get all the benefits of the
hot flavor,
but none of the drawbacks of losing a bunch of yield
So yeah, this is, I've never had this beer, 67% on the old schnauzer
Oh, and the clarity is unreal for a West Coast
I did just notice that
It's really clear
This is nice
There is a slight hop haze, which should be there because they still used hops
in it
Oh, I get nothing but the Nelson out of this
I love Nelson, by the way
No shade to Nelson or the Rewaka, but the New Zealand hops just are, they're
jumping
out of the glass to me
What else was in there?
Citra, Helios?
I've never heard of that hop
I'm not sure if it's, I have no idea
Never heard of it
I didn't do my research on that
But on the jobber, ooh, ooh, ooh
So this is like a mid, this is like a halfway between a West Coast OG and a
modern West
Coast
You still get the dankness, which is what they were wanting, but you get the
modern
approach
Lighter body
Like this is probably all Pilsner malt, maybe 1% wheat just for head retention
So you go OG with the malt pill, but then you go new school with the hops and
the new
school like tech for hops and the way you make it
But then you still dial up the, like the straight up dank, it is dank, like old
school
This is fantastic
Holy cow
I love that old school dank
That bitter grapefruit in the back end
So good
Oh, this is all I'm getting
And I love when they do with this lighter, but I don't miss the fucking malt
bombs of
yesteryear where like stone IPA was like a, you know, liquid loaf of bread
I don't miss that
I love the hoppiness of it
So I like these lighter West Coast IPAs that are coming out now where it's like
that blend
of the dankness of yesteryear, but the light body of, of newer beers and stuff
That's why I love a good hoppy Pilsner
Yep
Oh, give me a West Coast Pilsner any day
Pilsner's basically a hundred percent Pilsner malt, but then it's hopped like
an IPA and
just delicately, delicately lagered
Yeah
This is, Oh, this is super tasty
Andrew, thank you so much for bringing this
This is an unbelievable beer and RIP just does not disappoint
Yeah
I've not had ISM yet, but RIP
ISM is a new one to me too
Says here they're out of Long Beach, California
All right
Oh, that's not far
That's not too bad
That's not far in, in, in perspective to mileage, but it'll take us two hours
to get there
Yeah
Minimum
Yeah, exactly
Yeah
Minimum
Are you going to Long Beach?
Got a little quick homework here
Oh, so it says the Helios hop is one of the most agronomically sustainable hop
varieties
grown today
Thanks to its unrivaled yield, powdery and well as downy mildew resistance,
pleasant
aroma and bitterness quality
I don't know what any of that means
It is a dual purpose hop that can be used in hop additions throughout brewing
process
described as low COH with pleasant bitterness, a muted aroma with clean, soft
accents
Loft
Yeah
Yep
It's from the hop Steiner hop program
So it's a European slash German hop
Wow
But that makes sense
If this has like, it can sustain just about any environment
And I'm wondering if they would like, now that it's named, if they would sell
off, like,
or breed it with American stuff
So then they can get the qualities of the Helios for the growth and not have to
worry
about the climate or it can grow in other parts of the world, but just not be
known
as Helios
Like this could, this could be the, a parent in the breeding process for its
qualities
and branch off of that
Oh yeah
That's super high
Alpha 15 and a half to 18 and a half
Holy shit
Whoa
That's super high
That is, that's the dankiness there
Yeah
Ooh
It did say alpha, yes
I did read that part, but I didn't read it out loud
Super alpha with clean bitterness is what hop Steiner got
Wow
That's okay
Okay
Now I have to do my research as, as, as now a hip brewer
Helios may be one I may have to mess with
Somebody's got a boner
This is just a hazy pale with Helios
Bitter with Helios
Finish it with some, something from New Zealand, something from New Zealand, or
even we keep
it in Germany with Mandarina Bavaria
Okay
Super orangey finish
Oh yeah
Mandarina Bavaria is one of my favorite hops too
Love that hop
Everyone's getting hard over here
Still not a boner shot
Give it time apparently
Uh, all right
Top listening city of last week
Shout out to, I think this is a new one
Dallas Tejas
Yeah
I don't even think we ever stepped foot in Texas
I know
I, well, it's not true
I had an emergency landing once in Texas, but that's it
I hate to admit it
I had a layover there once
Yeah
Oh
Did you go by choice?
No
I don't think we've ever talked shit about Texas
Every time I stepped foot in Dallas, dude, I just shiver
I'm like, Oh God, Cowboys, Cowboys fans everywhere
Oh no
Worst
I might get arrested
Yeah
But Hey, thanks for listening
That won't last very long
Love to hate to Dallas
Yeah
We appreciate it
Yeah
To all the not creepy people who are listening, thanks
Anyways
Hey, we forgot to mention this last week
Speaking of all this beer nerd stuff and hop talk and whatnot, um, you also are
a seasoned
podcast veteran
Oh me
Yes
The other one on the show
The other one
Uh, yeah, I did a beers with Borrie podcast
Uh, if you would like to search, the episodes are still up
I haven't recorded since last December the it's hashtag beers with, uh, beers
with Borrie
It's on Spotify, Apple, Apple music or Apple podcasts, pocket casts
It's on the major products was on Google rip Google podcast
Um, but yeah, it was, it spawned out of when I used to stream games, video
games every
other Friday I did a beer talk and then it became beers with Borrie and it was
about literally
anything and everything
I like took an excerpt out of the encyclopedia of beer
The, it was written by Garrett Oliver
It doesn't matter
And I would just talk about, let's say I talk about the style like brown ale
and then it
would, I would just read excerpts and then I try to get a brown ale like from
somewhere
and drink it while I talked about it and then talk about the different
differential characteristics,
why most breweries don't do it, why breweries haven't done it in forever, why
the style
is like fading in a way, like, or another episode would be about citra hops and
the
history of citra hops
So that's kind of where the show went on
And then when I started recording a podcast, it was the same vein, but most of
them were
reviews
So it'd be like any beer I get my hand on or if I had aspirations of doing a
vertical
recording myself doing a vertical, that would have been fun
Get to number seven
But then the last three Christmases I've bought the Costco admin calendar, the
German beer
admin calendar
Every year I torture yourself
It all tastes like cam
So I was like, yes, German beer, 24 of them
Let's go
And then the second year I was like, oh, the first 14 were the same from last
year
Like, oh man
Then the third year I was like, all right, this is the last time
And then I open it up
I'm like, yup
Almost identical
The first like 12 were the same
I was like, okay
This is like, well, this is the last time I'm doing the Costco one
I think it's the same cans from three years ago
It wouldn't surprise me
I would check every episode
This was a review
I opened it every day and I recorded myself drinking said beer
And I promise, I swear it was the same lock code on the cans
I'm that person that checks like can dates, packages, whatever
Right
So I was like, what the, you gotta be kidding me
So I was really disappointed
There were some new ones, but yeah, that was kind of like the last time I
recorded was
a lash 2023 advent calendar
If you were to go back to the, to the podcast, that's the last recordings was
24 days of
me reviewing every, every single one
And you'll hear it's pretty, they're like five to seven minutes long
They try to be, I try to be quick about it cause like I'm coming home from work
, dropping
off whatever is in my pocket
If I got to walk the dog, I got to walk the dog
And then like I set up the equipment, you know, turn on Norad and then I crack
a beer
and I quickly review it so it's like, and then I got to go make dinner
So that was kind of like the whole scenario every night
So if it's still out there, if you want to listen to it, folks, sorry, that was
a long
winded
Yes
I have a podcast
Thanks
I tell you what I am on team
I hate my voice
It's weird
It takes a lot of getting used to, to hear your voice
It does
And now like I've been like flex said last week, what am I doing for like 12
years now?
12 and a half years
I've been doing it for so long
Now when I hear my voice, I'm like, Oh, I don't sound right today
Oh yeah
Like, Oh, I sound tired or I sound sick or what?
Like it just, I don't sound quite right
I sound a little off now
I know my voice too well
It's weird and mildly narcissistic
You can definitely tell when I'm tired
Yeah
Tonight
Flexy ain't sweepy
No
Flexy's
How's your booger sugar treating you?
We good
I wish people could see that reaction
That was great
Oh yeah
Good time
Yeah
The, the fucking, uh, the Costco pack
Oh, I did a highlight
So when you're, I think this was, God, it was a 21 or 22
I don't remember
Your mom bought it
Your sister bought it
My sister-in-law bought it for me
That's what it was
She thought she was being nice
She knows you're an alcoholic
She knows I'm an alcoholic and she's 24 German beers
She's like, Oh my God, yeah, the Costco, whatever pack and this, I'm like, and
I, and that was
the year where like all the grammars were doing it and they were talking about
how garbage
it was
And I was like, Oh no
Oh no
22
I think it was 22
Yeah
It wasn't last
Yeah
It was definitely, definitely was not last year
Oh yeah
22 was, I think is it 21, 22, definitely not 23
And so I did a highlight, like a real highlight on Instagram instead of an
episode for each
one, just so everyone can see my face as I drank it for the first time
And most of it was like, all right, now I'm drinking, you know, Juergen Fleur
gen from
Dusseldorf and sip
Oh, that was so bad
That was hard to get
It got to the point where I was like, do I need to finish this box?
Cause this is, Oh no
So I don't know
I poured them out
I don't know if you guys poured them out or if you canned them
I can't Greg
I can't remember
I don't think I finished very many of them
Oh, it just, it was a lot of aluminum flavor
It tasted so tinny
Yeah
There were a lot of oxidized cans
Yeah
100%
Yeah
Good
Everything tasted the same
The stouts didn't taste like stouts
There were a lot of hell
I remember a lot of helices in 22
Yes
There was one IPA in there and I was psyched
I was like, Oh, a little change up
He poured it out and drank it
And I said, yeah, that tasted like the helice I had
Yeah
Okay
That's weird
I think it was just the same beer in different cans
It might've been
Yeah
This stouts really light
I don't know what's happening here
Why is it yellow?
Yeah
I felt so bad cause I was just ripping into these beers and I was like, dude, I
love my
time in Germany
I spent five years over there
It was the greatest, most boring beer I've ever had, but it was all outstanding
Boring beer
Right
It was done right
And it's just like, like outside of Enneagrin there's, you don't find it
anywhere
You have to buy exports or imports
So then when I saw this advent calendar, I was like, yes
And then they show you the cans on the side
You don't know the days
And as some of them, I was like, Oh, I actually had this one in Germany, had
this one
I was like, cool
I get to have it again, but clearly not the same
Remember they were packaged so long ago and they just shoved them into this gi
ve pack
and up the price
Cause they were like 80, $90 at Costco
It's insane
It's like for 24 beers
And I'm thinking about it and saying out loud, I'm like, wow, I'm such an idiot
for buying
three years in a row
I would pay somebody $90 not to buy it
Yeah
That's why this year, this year was the first year I was like, I'm not, there's
no way
And I haven't
We, we, we, as a, I have two kids, uh, as well flex and like, it's a Costco run
every
two weeks
So I know they're about to get this advent calendar
It's that time of year, late October, early November
So I have to like fight every urge in my body to not buy it
But cause I can't be a hard fight
I can't, I should have just done this episode
Yeah, this could be like, this is my AA to not get an advent calendar
So gross
It's bad
So you lived in Germany
You said, yeah, we did
I have a buddy who has gone there quite frequently
He said the best beer he's ever had
It's a brewery that the beer is brewed by monks
There are churches in Germany that brew beer and the monks brew beer
Yes
It's gross to me
Yeah
It's a, it's a thing over there
Um, we, the U S had a American Trappist Monastery in Maine, uh, Spencer
It was the first and thus far been the only one
Unfortunately, it closed their doors end of 22, early 23
Um, and I, as like a European beer nerd and Trappist nerd, I was like, yes, the
Is on the map
Hell yeah
And then like, I think they lasted maybe seven years
It's a really unfortunate, they made great beer
They're like staple beer was so good
The most mass mass, uh, distributed one
It was so good
I actually bought a gift pack from BevMo the year, the month I found out they
were closing
Uh, it's still, it's cellaring
I kept it because I will break it
I will probably break it open this Christmas because I think it's a Christmas
ale and I
bought it a year or two years ago
So it's been aging for almost two years
I'm that kind of person that like age
I have, I have, Oh, you're a former cellar man
So nobody's surprised
Yeah
I aged when we lived in Germany
I bought a lot of Belgian beer and I bought the Roquefort 10
I bought one every year, but I aged like I bought like a bunch of them and I
aged a bunch
So like my pseudo four to five year vertical of just Roquefort 10, there were,
I mean,
there were like a dollar 80 like, what do you do?
Not a huge investment
Yeah
So, and I opened one every Christmas
That was my Christmas beer every morning
Nice
The only time I drink beer at before 9am is Christmas morning and like with
breakfast
vacation
No, I'm, we're trying to sleep in on vacation
That's true
Opposite over here
We don't sleep in on vacation
I'm excluding work here
Like I'm excluding work
It's sampling
I have to QA crap at like 830 in the morning and it's just like a sip or two
I'm like, uh, Nope
That's definitely not ready
You're like, this one's ready
Pour me a full pint
Would you?
Yeah
Right off the fermenter
Yeah
Still bubbling
It's still warm
Trigging this at 92 degrees
Oh dear
All right
Wow
Well, if anybody, you know what, this is my call to all the listeners who are
dumb
I mean, uh, new enough to buy the Costco advent calendar, please film it or
record it or something
and make sure we have access to it
I would like to see this
Maybe we could get like a Kickstarter going where we, yeah
Somebody please buy the 2024 version so we know we were all right the last two
or three
years
Yeah
Let us know
You know we are
It's yeah
I just want to hear how bad it is
My favorite is, I won't call this person out, but I think Flex only who I'm
talking about
Last year, 23, by this point, like everyone knows it's garbage
I'm the schmuck that didn't grade
You're the second one
Because there was one person in an engagement group where it was like every
post was the
advent calendar and they must've gotten it for free or something because every
post talked
about how great the beers were and I was like, what are you drinking compared
to what I had
so
Do you want to talk about Flex?
I think so
We'll take it off air, but yeah, I was like, oh, and now I have to comment nice
things
about this Costco
You could have had that first beer and just immediately been like, yeah, no, I
'm not going
to post these
Yeah
It's going to be a no from me
It wasn't that hard
Right
So bad
Anyways, I'm not going to sit here and say I am that person that posted every
day either,
but I may have been that person posting every day, but no, it was mostly to put
the episode
like, Hey, new episodes out
This is what I drank
And then like, go listen
Yeah
Go listen
Yeah
I didn't put it in the post
I just made it like I made a post of the episode
This person didn't have a podcast
They just took pictures and posted how great it was
Oh, I got a comment on the, it was because it wasn't that great
It was not
Yeah
It's not great
They don't post the advent calendars in Germany proper
They don't send them out here
The one we get is like, it's one of the bigger, like we'll call them beer
distributors of
Germany
They have one in Germany
That's different than what we get here
Hopefully
And then they have two more
One of them's like a tongue in cheek
It's all like, like taboo named beers
Like these are the ones that I wish we would get
And then you have like a real proper one that breweries make to distribute
within Germany
That one I did two years of, and then I, they couldn't, in my region, they didn
't send it
out anymore
Oh yeah
That would suck
Cause that was the one I was looking forward to every year
Well hopefully somebody puts together like a halfway decent one
I know
That would be nice
I had a business
I had a business idea to, to collaborate with breweries every winter and make a
custom advent
calendar
That would be awesome
Like, but clearly you have to plan it out cause it's got to sit around for a
little
bit
So you don't want like a wet or a fresh hop IPA from October sitting until
December
Like nobody's going to, that's going to be an awful beer
So you're going to need to put this together in like, you know, August-ish
probably
When I worked in a grocery store, they would put old beer on clearance, you
know, and then
put it on like a sales rack
Oh sure
And you were talking about celebration last episode
They had celebration on the clearance rack in December for the previous year
Whoa
And I just thought to myself, how bad would that taste?
I couldn't get my, I couldn't get myself to buy a six pack of it
I just couldn't, but I could only imagine how not great
Was this bottled or the canned version?
Bottled
Oh no
Yikes
Oh yeah
That's rough
That is rough
Now I wish I would've got it
Just to see
For science dude
Hey, you know what?
Still better than the Costco package
It would still be better
Oh God
Up in the air
Oh fuck
Yeah
We'll find out
The jury's still out
Yeah, we'll find out
We'll find out
Oh fuck
All right
Let's, let's move on a little bit
A week or so ago, a couple of weeks, I guess a couple of weeks ago, went to a
comedy night
at a brewery
Have you guys ever done one of these?
No
I shy away from it
Not yet
I want to, but not yet
Somebody was going like, Hey, we're going to, I won't mention the brewery
because it
was super fucking awkward
I was like, Oh, okay
So, but that's not the brewery's fault
Right?
No, no, no, no
That's not the brewery's fault
They have hired or partnered with, or something, a person who puts on these
events, a hundred
percent, not the brewery's fault
Still not going to mention the brewery
Cause then you'd figure out potentially who the comedians were or something
But it was put on by a person who was not very funny
They had four comedians in total
The last one was actually decently funny
Like, Oh, I would actually go see this person as a comedian
Like they're, they're good at this
They're funny
They've clearly been doing this
But like the first two people to come up kind of seems like it was their first
night ever
doing standup
One lady, she was a little older
I'm guessing she was in her like early sixties and had a real shaky voice and
kept forgetting
the setups to her punchlines so bad
At what point she started to tell us this, you know, in quotes, the story to
get to the
punchline, she cuts herself off and it's like, Oh, first I should tell you
And she told us the first, she should tell us
And then never got back to the story and just hit the punchline
And we're all staring at her like, Ooh, what?
And that was about her entire set
One guy got up there
He wasn't bad at first
You know, he brought the energy
He seemed like he'd done this before, but as his set went on, he kept checking
his phone
Clearly he was working, workshopping some material
Kept checking his phone
Fine
Not a, not a big deal
Except you look at his phone and go, Oh yeah, this one
And then he'd tell the joke and if it worked, you know, he'd move on
And if it didn't work, you're like, all right, well you guys don't like that
one
How about this one?
Oh, that's so repeating
It was so late
Cause like the first five minutes and they're all short sets for like 15
minutes
That's the first five minutes he was on it
It was like he had to memorize, he was going, it was not the best jokes in the
world, but
it was decent
Energy was there
And then it was like phone time and I was like, Ooh, this is rough
This is so rough
The host, when she opened the show, you know, like the host to tell a few jokes
, bring out
a comic, a few jokes, comic, whatever
She starts asking people in the crowd, like, Hey, what do you do?
And people were really shy
And she goes, well, clearly you're a secret agent cause you won't tell me
And I'm like, all right, funny
Ha ha
Then she latched onto the secret agent thing
And that was the only joke she ran with the rest of the night
Every time she'd come back out between comics, like, all right, tell my secret
agents in
the crowd, any CIA, you know, it was so bad
Like it was, it was, you know, crickets bad
Oh man, really?
It was, it was, it was to a point where I was laughing at how bad it was, which
is not
the laughs you want, but at least I was laughing, I guess
The wife doesn't do awkward very well
So she was just cringing the whole time while I was pregnant
That's me
I don't enjoy it
Oh, like, yeah, like the wife did not love the office
Like I loved the office too awkward for her
So that's her, she doesn't do that style of comedy
But anyways, there's no moral to this story other than like, it was bad
You guys should probably vet your comics a little bit
If you got a good one, give them some more time than the shitty ones
Look all the credit in the world to the old lady who went up there for, I
really hope
it was her first time
Cause if it wasn't that she should just stop
But um, cause obviously I don't do that, but uh, yeah, early mid sixties, what
an age to
get into comedy
Yeah
And her stories, like all her stories that were supposed to lead to punchlines
fell apart
like mid story
Like she was talking about working from home, but then also talked about being
a masseuse
I was like, wait, you do massages from home
Is that a thing that you go to clients?
I feel like a great joke would have been something like how she was single and
she was trying
to get back out there and she went, went out and took a guy home
Then before they slept together, she handed him a can of pledge because it had
been a
while
That would have been better than any of the jokes she told, I feel like, you
know, just
got a lot of time on your hands
You know, 63 lived a lot of life
Yeah, no
Like I said, we heard a lot about her husband, but like also learn nothing
about her husband
at the same time
Oh, it was very strange
Very strange
So anyway, you know, John, and now you have no idea who this John guy is
All right
Yeah
So I told you about John earlier
Right?
Yeah
Anyways
So my girlfriend and I were out of the bar and it was that kind of like, Oh man
So anyway, I don't know
There's no point to that
But, um, but yeah, that was good times
A couple of weeks ago I decided to, and we talked about this, I think when
Erica was
on the show, um, make chat GPT, come up with some beer questions for me
No
Yeah
Last, last time it was, uh, what's the name of a horrible beer or whatever,
based on your
last text message or something like that
Or the name of it
Yeah
The boobs one
Yeah
No fake tits
Yeah
Which we got some comments about
Some people were mad that you didn't like fake tits
Uh, this one flex, we'll start with you
If you could turn any non beer food or drink into a beer, what would it be?
I mean, non beer food or drink like, like turn nachos into a beer
Yeah
Like you could turn something that's not beer into beer
What would it be?
And why would it be an absolute disaster?
A disaster home, man
Uh, probably margar, like turn a margarita into beer because anything tequila
barrel
aged is terrible throwing up already
Right?
So I feel like that would be the gross one
Like the easy gross one
You had me at tequila
Nachos was my first thought, but I like nachos
Yeah
Who doesn't like nachos, but if you're going to ferment cheese, yeah, that's,
that's a
disaster, man
Oh, what say you?
For both of you
I hate peanut butter
I hate pickles and I hate liver
We've already had many, many peanut butter beers flex a couple of weeks ago
You had one, the PB and J beer, uh, pickle beers making for some reason
It's the thing again
I don't know why
I don't know why either
I like pickles
I've had a pickle goza, I've had a pickle says, or I think I had a pickle sa
ison, cucumber
saison
So almost a pickle
Same thing
Basically
Uh, but like, so liver, like that flavor, cause there are people that like
liver
I don't know why
Yeah
If you're 80
So, Hey, maybe the 60 some odd year old comedian may enjoy liver
I don't know
So like, so I had this beer last week, like liver, liver, worse, worse lager
I don't, I don't even know, man, like that's just one, uh, kimchi, kimchi, pale
ale
Like I feel like, I feel like you're picking things that are easily disasters
A nacho beer would probably be a disaster, but like if you're, are we talking
like nachos
with cheese cream, like cream cheese, you're saying liver's gross, right?
Which is, but nachos are not gross
I'm not saying that is delicious
So we're talking something that is edible and good and then turns into disaster
Oh, okay
I think that's, I think that's the fun of it
So then they would be still kimchi, like a kimchi, because kimchi is delicious
And, but like thinking of a fermented, fermented cabbage with Korean chili
peppers for six
months and then you put in a beer, no thanks, nope
And I've had a sriracha pale ale, I've had a sriracha stout, I've had spiced
beers
We, uh, institution over the hill, over the grade over here makes it a great
Thai chili
white walls
And I'm not a pepper beer guy, I'm a pepper stout guy
I'm I, it's the one style when someone asks me, what are you not like?
It's like, this is what I normally say
I don't like any spice in my beers
But for, I don't know how they do it, but institution just dials it just right
I've had it from both ends of the spectrum, all pepper is literally a carbon
ated vegetable
juice or did you actually put peppers in it?
Right?
But institution has found that balance and it's incredible
So I would still say a kimchi pale ale, like that would be an awful beer, like
an actually
properly fermented kimchi
And then you use that in a, in a beer
No, that's going to, yeah, no
I don't remember if this was an on-air conversation or an off-air conversation,
but I'm going
to go back to our talk about red lobster, the cheddar biscuit beer, like what's
better
than those cheddar biscuits
What would make a worse beer than those cheddar biscuits?
I don't know the breadiness, it might not be terrible, like a nice cheddar
biscuit lager
A little cheese on the back end
Dry cheesed
Yeah
Bread-y up front
Well, look, between the three of us, one of us can make that happen
Just saying, and it's not flex and it's not Greg
I'll tell you what, I've had Chicago style hot dog beer and I've had sushi beer
And they're both are pretty solid, like the wasabi through the sushi beer and
like you
could taste like the sport pepper through the hot dog beer
It was wonderful
We'll move on quickly from that
We were talking off air, Boris, you were talking about some research you did
recently
Yeah
Headed down to Santa Ana, north of Tustin, that orange
And I immediately perked up because I have to go down there for work all the
time
Yeah
Bearded Tang, unreal spot, like unreal spot
They make kind of almost everything, but they do it right
So they have like an outstanding German pilsner
And when I say outstanding, like we have endocrine in our county that just like
kills it all
the time
So to be down there in like basically a strip mall with a food court for Vent
ura County
listeners, like the annex at the collection and a, I don't know, I think it's a
10 barrel
brew house dropped into the back of the annex
Like that's what Bearded Tang is
So they had a Czech pilsner that was like the light version of their main Czech
pilsners,
42% had that just the clarity, the flavor was spot on 42%
I mean like, how do you get so much flavor in 42?
Then the German pilsner
Then they also made a crystal weizen, which is like rare
Like even in Germany, it's just not a common style, but it is a common style
It's been around forever
So you get all the benefits of the aroma of a hefeweizen, but you don't get the
heaviness
of the yeast and the wheat and it's crystal
It's unreal
It's so good
Is it still banana-y and stuff?
Still banana-y
Like you get, it's kind of like an anomaly because you shouldn't get it because
it's
filtered out, but you still get it
And it's crushable is like 5%, five and a half at most
If I'm ever down there again, it's the only place I will go because now I have,
not only
do I have like basically a food court's worth of food, I have this brewery that
's just killing
it and they happen to have like IPAs, pale ales, hazies, like the other stuff
that every
other California brewery is doing
So like when you can kill it with lagers and old world styles and then still
have new world
stuff, it's like, okay, you're on my radar and they're outstanding
Well, I always say like if I walk into a new brewery, I'm judging them on their
lagers
That's how you know anything else is going to be good
If you're making a lager, you have to know how to do a lager
Right
Exactly
So I'm always putting a lager or two in there and obviously I'm drinking that
before, you
know, get to the IPAs or whatever
As soon as I hit that lager, I'm like, this is either going to be a good
experience or
a bad experience
If you can do that right, you can do everything
Yeah
That's, and for us too, like we only have one core lagers, our single spirit,
our American
light lager, but like that is, we cannot fuck that beer up
Like it has to be spot on
There's nothing hot, you can't hide it
Like you can't hide anything in any lager, not even an IPL
You can't hide anything
So you have to take care of that style and if you are a brewery that can do it
right,
you will succeed
It's true
And if you fuck it up, yeah, just pop the shit out of it
You'll never sell it
And then if you can make an IPA, then cool
But like if you know how to make a lager, even just a generic lager, even a p
ilsner,
you'll succeed
In my opinion, you'll succeed
Yeah
Well, I'm, I'm down there all the time for work, so I'm, you know, hit up a
green cheek
all the time
Oh, that's on my list
I need to go to green cheek
So good
Hit up everywhere when I can
Have you been to everywhere yet?
Oh, you're missing out
Yeah
I'm not missing on that drive, but yes, I am missing out
Radiant when I can
There's some good beer down there in Orange County
Love Radiant
I've yet to go to beer
I had like one or two of Solomon at a couple of festivals
What I've had, I remember being really good, but I need to go check them out
I'll be down there for work more than I'd like to admit for like the month of
November
So hopefully get some, some opportunities down there
Noice
All right
Ludicrous libation law
This one comes to us from Ms Misery
Oh
All under 21 who do simple things such as taking out the trash that may have an
empty
alcohol beverage container are at risk of being arrested
The laws are so strict that technically police can arrest them for illegal
possession of
alcohol
So if you have like an empty beer can and you're under 21, you can be arrested
It's a pretty Missouri sounding thing
Yeah
Your, your child is doing their chore and they may not come back inside
Right
They may be arrested
Yeah
But like, does the cop just guess, Hey, what's in that bag?
It's like a fucking pinata party then like it was take turns bashing the bag
until split's
open and they might see a alcohol container, get their nightstick out and come
here, kid
Yeah
Would you, would you, would you gotten that a black trash bag?
Yeah
Hey little Billy
What you doing tonight?
Yeah
Entrapment
You know, it's like they just park in the alleys behind the bars and waiting
for the
bar back to take out the trash and Oh no
Where are you going?
Young man, whenever they got some kid who's like 18 that they can't stand cause
he's,
you know, they always catch them smoking weed or some shit
There's a guy, what's this in your back pocket and like plant an empty beer can
on home and
yeah
Well, he can't fire him cause he hasn't done anything wrong, but he sucks
Hey Billy, you know, a guy at the police department take out this trash, stake
out, stake up for
empty beer cans
Hey there
Yeah
One person happened
Yeah
Empty beer cans in that trash
Why?
G officer
I don't think I do the pinata stick done
You're done
Yeah
Fucking Missouri for you
What a weird law
Land of Budweiser
Weird law
Yeah
You would think the land of Budweiser would be a little more beer friendly
Yeah
There's billions of cans being tossed or cans or bottles
I mean, not everybody recycles
Let's be real
No, they don't
Especially not in Missouri
No, I think it's against the law
They hide it in the Ozarks
Right
Exactly
Toss it
Anyway, so, uh, all right, that's Missouri little news for a get up out of here
Uh, flex new Harris is going to, uh, add a $55 million addition to their
operations
I heard the, uh, they're getting into distilling
Yeah
The new addition will include space for brewing and distilling as well as
retail and office
space
We received thousands of visitors, but our current pay visitor parking holds 53
stalls
This has created congestion on our site and has forced us to be closed on the
weekends
What kind of breweries closed on the, I was just going to say, I didn't know
you were
going to have that in there
I was going to say they're closed on the weekend
That's insane
I had no idea
You think such a big brewery, you know, they're old people, right?
And old people like going, they should start comedy drives, you know?
Yeah
Oh, my mom would be terrible
Oh, she'd fit right in
But my parents are old, so they like going on drives
And my mom said, Hey, we went out to New Glarus on Saturday
I said, Oh, cool
I hear it's like a super small town, like 2000 people, like super small and
spotted
cow is about the only thing they have there
And Tim, who I always meet up my Eagle Park friend, Tim, he grew up there and
he basically
says the same thing, it is super small town, not much going on, spotted cows,
the only
thing they have there
And I said, yeah, my parents went there and they went to go to the brewery and
they said
it was closed on Saturday
And he just nodded his head and he's like, yeah, they closed on Saturday
There's Monday through Friday
That's what operations are
And that's it
And now they blame it on parking
And that's hilarious
Well, I know because I work for some governments that a lot of times they will
judge your capacity
based on your parking
Interesting
Mm hmm
There's only 50
I'm still on the 53 at New Glarus, like, like Flex, I love New Glarus
Oh, I love, oh, oh, I love New Glarus
I kind of pseudo created my own version of spotted cow
That's how much I love
I love New Glarus
Spotted cow is one of the spotted cow
And then I had one of those strawberry fruited beers many, many years ago
It's how you can spot somebody from out of Wisconsin
Oh, a hundred percent
We all love spotted cows
So we went, so we got the local brew pub right down the road
And before COVID, when they were really good, they had a farmhouse ale on tap
And this is when my wife still drank alcohol, which she does not anymore
But she would enjoy spotted cows
So we went up there and she's like, oh, what would I like on here?
Because not a lot of people know that spotted cow is a farmhouse ale
They just think of it as spotted cow
And I said, oh, they got this
This is going to be just like it
That's what I told her
You know, that's what you tell people who aren't familiar with beer and sure
Oh yeah
This is this
No bullshit
It was identical
Oh, absolutely identical to spotted cow, but cleaner
And then they also had a cucumber version, which I don't think Porous would
like, but
it was a little bit refreshing
But I'll drink a cucumber ale
I won't drink a pickled ale
Yeah
Well, I will for science and then probably probably don't the rest of it
But yeah, my point is spotted cow around these parts
It's correct
Yeah
Right
And I agree with you
But however, like this is many moons ago and I never heard of new glares
And then I read about spotted cow because if they like, it really blew them up
Right
And then a friend of mine gave me a six pack of it
And I was like, oh, and I was like, holy fuck
Like what?
It's good
This is the shit
Like, holy crap
It's good
Like, you know, travel back in time 12 years ago
And I'm like
Right
And I'm like, you don't see that in the US
And it's a core beer, too
And it's a
Right
It is a flagship core
Yeah
So I set out to do my homebrewing nerd research and I was like, all right, I'm
going to try
to make this at home
I think I did it maybe two times
It was nowhere near because clearly I'm not going to be able to mimic it, but
it was pretty
damn close
And I was like, OK
So I kept that as like my version of spotted cow
Nice
Yeah
But no, I tell you what, their Oktoberfest or Merton is very, very good
Like, it is very good
I would say they should be more known for that than spotted cow
Oh, yeah
The Pilsner they came out with recently in this past year was very hoppy
I'm in
Was it a hoppy Pilsner?
It was just labeled as a Pilsner
Oh, OK
And it was very hoppy, which, again, you're going to make a hazy IPA that's not
hazy and
it's juicy
Right
Don't call it hazy
Call it juicy
If you're going to make a Pilsner that's extremely hoppy, label it a hoppy Pils
ner
You know, expecting some clean, crisp drink and it kind of punches you in the
mouth right
away and, you know, hit me the wrong way
So that was OK
But their pale ale is very good
I think they do IPA that's very good
Their Hefeweiss is very good
It's called the Bubbler
It's very, very good
What a great name
Yeah
Represent
Let's go
So, yeah, the spotted cow thing kills me because they do some better stuff
Their strawberry rhubarb beer is great
The raspberry tart sour is great
I think that's the one I had
They used to do they used to do a cherry tart
I don't know if they still do
And they used to be in like the 22-ounce bombers to when like 12 years ago and
that like just
awesome presentation
Now everything's can bottled
But their sours are solid in that aspect
So, yeah, every time, any time I hear spotted cow, it is what it is
Yeah
Well, speaking of Flex drinking things, let's see what things he's drinking in
a world where
craft beer is king, a world where muscles are bigger than growlers
Only one tongue can guide us, one man, one tongue, one Tongue Jobber
In this world, we must find out what is Flex drinking
What am I drinking?
I've recently have gotten a hard on for Evil Twin Brewing
Not a bonus show
But I found this triple IPA, which is wheelhouse Flex
Right in that wheelhouse
Are you kidding me?
Yeah
So this is a 96, could be a little higher
Double dry hopped with Citra and Nelson, Nelson Boner
My favorite thing about this beer, it's called what's the triple in the IPA
Evil Twins always pretty creative with their beer names
Look at the can here
Do you want me to read all that?
Because I will
No, you're going to
Do you have a Sharpie marker for your bookmark?
Because that's-
It's just really funny
It says, is it triple the size?
Is it triple the hops?
Does it come in three glasses?
Is it triple the ABV?
Is it from three breweries?
Is it triple the fun?
Is it triple the flavor?
Does it smell three times as good?
Is it triple the size?
Is it triple the hops?
Okay
So that repeats
It's fun
Yeah
It's a fun can
Evil Twins great
This one does say Evil Twin Brewing New York City
And remember when Mel was on the show and I said, I thought Evil Twin was in
New York
and my can is from Connecticut
Right
This is just, it's a little justification
You finally got a New York
Yeah
Like it makes me feel good
So like I said, this is 96
Not a lot of check-ins, 296
I don't know if they don't get out much, if people don't check them in, if it's
new
Feels low for Evil Twin
It does
And, but it's got, it's a 409 collective
Chalk it up to a fresh
We respect that
Real simple description again, DDH Citroen Nelson
It is hazy
I love very bright yellow color, some solid lacing
You know how daddy likes his lacing
Daddy like
The Nelson really shines, which I love it too
It's a lot of gooseberry, which I found out when I don't know what I smell
It is in fact, gooseberry
It's always gooseberry
It is with the Nelson
It's like you smell it and you're like, ah, I don't know
That's not any fruit I've ever had
Oh, read it
Oh, yep
That's, that's the gooseberry
So this is wonderful
It's a little spicy once it warms up
Spicy
So, uh, we'll, without further ado, we're up the old tongue Jabber
Okay
So this is super de duper low carbonation, um, like none, which I do like a
little zip
in the triple
It is sweet, which I like
I'm a big fan of that
I do like sweetness in the trips, which I know a lot of people don't like, but
for me,
it just kind of helps it go down
I don't know how you avoid sweetness in a triple, right?
Right
It's sweet
It's a little bit citrusy, not much on the notes
It is dry
Like the white grape skins, you know, like, uh, like a white wine
That's nice
I love that from the Nelson
This isn't a mind blower, but it's a super solid beer at 96 you would,
especially with
the lack of carbonation, how smooth that it goes down the gullet, super solid
And Greg, to top it off, 1799 four pack, four pack
Where do you find this?
This is absurd
1799
I'm fact checking
This is no way
96 Evilton back at this point, it'd be cheaper for us to order beers from
Wisconsin and pay
for shipping
Yes
Yeah
Cause California is one of the few States you can ship alcohol to right, man, I
'd be
saving so much money
Hey, come on
You just started a business
Oh, did you ever, did you ever get the Duncan?
I sent you flex
Speaking of sending beer and shipping beer, don't do it
I'm kidding
I did not send you
I did not send you that
Please
Please don't do it
Please
Please don't
Speaking of beers, nobody wants Oscar blues is rolling out
Dale's easy IPA, you know, it's so bad and designated Dale's in a pills
I'd tell you a funny thing about Dale's pale ale
Nobody wants it
Yes
They, when we were true and T-ish and it was still new, they would sell it at
Walgreens
and you could get a flat case of Dale's pale ale for like $9
Oh my God
Was that before monster acquired them?
Yeah
So we're talking like 2008
Oh yeah
That was wild
Yeah
They're still independent
Yes
Cause I remember we had a huge attic party at our place and we were, I mean, we
would
buy cubes of Keystone light all the time
That was like the beer of choice
And one time I invited a buddy and out of nowhere he brings a flat of tails
pale ale
and everyone was like, Oh, okay
Like whatever
Like beers, beer
And when you're 2021 and you haven't had a pale ale, man, that was the nastiest
shit
I ever did have in my entire life
Let me tell you
It's like flowers
It was just the bitterness that cascaded on your tongue and it just wouldn't go
away
That was probably the cascade
Yeah
We stopped drinking that pretty quick
That used to be a top five pale ale back then
Right
That's, I mean, I sure it was for people who had the palate for it, but I went
to the brewery
in Lyon and at the, it's probably not even there anymore
There was a Dave's pale ale
It's a draft tap room only
And it was far superior than Dale's, but it never hit distro
Never got canned
One of these days, like recently I, you know, they were talking about the
Instagram brewery
questions like, well, would you like to see that?
We used to make that
You went back, blah, blah, blah
I was like, why didn't you guys ever put Dave's pale ale in distro?
Like that was so much better
And the question, they replied back, like, what do you mean Dave's pale ale?
Really?
I was like, all right
It's like, nevermind
Their marketing person's like 23
They didn't, yeah
They didn't even know Oscar blues existed back in 2008
Right
Finally, how about a trip to Florida?
Where else would we go?
Yeah
A Florida man found drunk on vehicle's hood in the middle of Clearford road
This is out of Clear
Okay
So it's not a trip to Florida
It's a trip to Pennsylvania where Florida man was getting hammered, uh, Clearf
ord County,
Pennsylvania, a 42 year old Florida man was arrested for driving under the
influence after
officers spotted him in the middle of Reed street and North third street in
Clearfield
borough with the doors to his vehicles open and music blasting
Police said the male later identified as Thomas Wayne Colbert of Fort Myers,
Florida was seen
jumping up and down on the hood of the vehicle and then jumped to the roof
before noticing
police were there
So he was ghost riding the whip
Oh, he absolutely was
My man
Officers noted that the man was three times over the legal limit
He was placed in Clearford County jail with bail set at $10,000
E 40 would be very proud
Yeah
Ghost ride the whip
What a track
Let me tell you
There's a couple of things I'll make fun of my wife for because she's from
Northern California
Like if she ever actually drops a hella, I give her massive amount of shit for
that
And every now and then you say you give her a hell of shit
I gave her a hell of shit and I will drop a little ghost ride the whip every
now and
then to dance around your moving car like a fucking idiot
Shake them dreads
Nobody was a good times in Pennsylvania, not an E 40 show
You know what?
It could be though
That could be
I bought that album
Let me
Wow
Really?
Yes
I'm being honest about that
You're one of five
I like the song
I'm joking
It's a good song
I don't know any other songs he has, but no, I can't remember a single one
That was a song
It's the best
Oh, there you go
Back story
When I was in high school, I used to drive a 1998 Chevy or 96 Chevy Astro van
Oh yeah
The Astro van
Yes
It was 98
That's correction here
1998 white Chevy Astro
And it had the captain's chairs in the back
It had the blinds on every window
So that, that was my car I got when I got into high school and I got my license
So imagine like me with long red looking hair, cause apparently my hair grows
long
I look like a, who's that snowboarder?
Sean White
Yep
That's what it looked like
And this is about like six other tiny white kids just bumping
Tell me what the hell
Bumping an E40 out of a '98 Astro van
That is basically an RV
Yeah
I learned how to drive it in Astro van
That's the suburbs in Wisconsin
Oh man
Yeah
It's a real thing
Did you at least put some subs in that bitch?
You didn't need it
Let me tell you, you did
Flex blew out every speaker in that van
I didn't need subs
Day one
That stock was bumping
License plate rattling
Oh man
Oh, that's fucking great
It was good stuff
That's something I need to get Chachi PT to animate for us
That sounds fantastic
A '98 Astro van in a white Chevy Astro van
Bumping E40
Yeah
That'd be great
Tell me when to go
Please tell me you were bummed that a stoplight's like, tell me when to go
Tell me when to go
Absolutely
We would like purposely do it to just be like an attraction and like everybody
bouncing
up and down in their seats and you don't got dreads, but you shake them anyway
Shaking your fucking Ronald hair
Yeah
I don't know if you've ever seen you
I don't think you've seen a picture of me when I was young
I don't think I have
But now I, I'm hoping there's video of you guys bumping E40
That was pretty self on
There might be a video of me in my van on YouTube
Oh, all right
We're going to hit some music and I hope flex is looking up that video
I got up
Oh, please
Oh no
You please send that
Oh no
All right
Let's wrap this up
Thank you all for listening
Thanks for joining
Boris
Thanks for hanging with us two weeks in a row
Yeah, of course
Yeah
Thank you
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Wait, you didn't say hi to Vanessa
Did we not?
Hi, Vanessa
Oh, well, hi, Vanessa
I thought we did