[intro music]

Welcome everybody to the Craft Beer Republic! Thanks for drinkin', thanks for

joinin'

I am Greg, of course I am being joined by the sexiest of all the Midwestiest,

and that

is Flex What's up, buddy?

Oh, hello!

That was like, almost Falvinus?

Was it kinda like, was it sexy?

It was somethin'

It happened

I'll take somethin'

Okay, it happened, and I'm not

Beggars can't be choosers

Right, and not soft, so we'll keep goin' And then, joining us for a second

week, we

convinced him to come back around, the head brewer of Pedals and Pints, and

that is Boris

What's happenin', fella?

Hello What's goin' on, guys?

Thanks for comin' back around

Yeah, of course

Makin' the 11-minute drive back on

We're almost in the same hood, so it's kinda like

Yeah

Well, that's convenient

You're, um

Yeah, like, what did I say?

11 minutes?

Like, 11 minutes?

Yeah

So, you're mostly close to Naughty Pine, right?

Uh, less than, what am I, 07 miles away

So, you can walk

I walk the dog to Naughty Pine

Yeah, that's amazing

So

That's the one thing, I love my location of my house, other than there's not a

walkable

brewery

Yeah

It's too bad

But, uh, so jealous

Anyways, follow us on the socials, @CraftBeerPro, @FlexMeBeer_ in between, and

of course, @BorrieTheBlade

on the 'Gram, there

Lots to get to today, we've got some booze news to talk about, some over in

Flex's hood

Ojai

Oh, Ojai

Uh, no, no, Ojai's over here in California

Hey

Hey

Dad jokes

Ludicrous libation law, I'm gonna ask everybody a beer question, and much more,

so let's get

into it

Let's, uh, start the hydration off with a review over there from Boris

I love how they sound drunk in the song

I love that, yeah

I hope that was the point

I don't know if it was just coincidence, or what

All right

Well, I'm having, um, a gift from Andrew from Victoria County Beer

Oh, Not Murderer Andrew

Not Murderer Andrew

Nice

Um, we just missed each other, uh, when he dropped these gifts off at the, at

the brewery

Uh, but yeah, he left, uh, left us a four pack, a mixed four pack of, uh, of

beer, and

this one is a collab

This is Ism Brewing in collaboration with Rip Beer Company

Oh, lovely submission

Rip, yeah

Rip is real solid

I've had a couple beers from them up here

This is called Dank Meter

Nice

A West Coast IPA, 67%, and I'm having trouble reading the can because they put

green font

on top of green background, uh, but I pulled up on Tapped, and it is a 43

Wow

Out of 58 check-ins, though

Holy smokes

So this must be a newer collage

Yep

Uh, it says here, West Coast Isle IPA collaboration with Rip Beer Company, M

osaic Dynaboost, Super

Delic Cryo, Rewaka Cryo, Nelson, Helios, that's a new hop to me, and Citra

It may have taken us almost a year, but we could not be more stoked to finally

team up

with our homies and local West Coast heroes from Rip Brewing

We dialed up the Dank Meter to max for this one, kicking off deep tropical

notes of papaya,

star fruit, and gristerminer grapes atop a fat dank layer of OG resin on the

bottom

end

Okay, that's a lot

Wow

So, real fast, gonna drop a little, like, brew nerd lingo here

Mosaic Dynaboost, that's a new product that is a hop extract type of product

that increases

yield for breweries that do West Coast, or I should say, hoppy beers in general

So if you want, like, the mosaic flavor and aroma, but you don't want to lose

yield when

making said beer, you use this product called Dynaboost

Super Delic Cryo is virtually the same, but I believe that's an actual hop

matter

It's just super highly concentrated

So you don't need, let's say you normally put 22 pounds of something hop, you

would

only need like five, so you get the same effect out of five pounds

Is the Dynaboost like a liquid extract?

It's liquid

Oh, okay

And Dynaboost, I believe, is Whirlpool edition, so the hot side

And when you do Whirlpool, like, you do drop in on a 10 to 15 barrel batch,

five and a

half to like 22 pounds of hops

So it's a lot of hops, it's a lot of matter

Well, if you can reduce all of that and achieve the same flavor and aroma by

just dropping

six ounces of an extract that is pure hop, then you get all the benefits of the

hot flavor,

but none of the drawbacks of losing a bunch of yield

So yeah, this is, I've never had this beer, 67% on the old schnauzer

Oh, and the clarity is unreal for a West Coast

I did just notice that

It's really clear

This is nice

There is a slight hop haze, which should be there because they still used hops

in it

Oh, I get nothing but the Nelson out of this

I love Nelson, by the way

No shade to Nelson or the Rewaka, but the New Zealand hops just are, they're

jumping

out of the glass to me

What else was in there?

Citra, Helios?

I've never heard of that hop

I'm not sure if it's, I have no idea

Never heard of it

I didn't do my research on that

But on the jobber, ooh, ooh, ooh

So this is like a mid, this is like a halfway between a West Coast OG and a

modern West

Coast

You still get the dankness, which is what they were wanting, but you get the

modern

approach

Lighter body

Lighter body

Like this is probably all Pilsner malt, maybe 1% wheat just for head retention

So you go OG with the malt pill, but then you go new school with the hops and

the new

school like tech for hops and the way you make it

But then you still dial up the, like the straight up dank, it is dank, like old

school

This is fantastic

Holy cow

I love that old school dank

That bitter grapefruit in the back end

So good

Oh, this is all I'm getting

And I love when they do with this lighter, but I don't miss the fucking malt

bombs of

yesteryear where like stone IPA was like a, you know, liquid loaf of bread

I don't miss that

I love the hoppiness of it

So I like these lighter West Coast IPAs that are coming out now where it's like

that blend

of the dankness of yesteryear, but the light body of, of newer beers and stuff

That's why I love a good hoppy Pilsner

Yep

Oh, give me a West Coast Pilsner any day

Pilsner's basically a hundred percent Pilsner malt, but then it's hopped like

an IPA and

just delicately, delicately lagered

Yeah

This is, Oh, this is super tasty

Andrew, thank you so much for bringing this

This is an unbelievable beer and RIP just does not disappoint

Yeah

I've not had ISM yet, but RIP

ISM is a new one to me too

Says here they're out of Long Beach, California

All right

Oh, that's not far

That's not too bad

That's not far in, in, in perspective to mileage, but it'll take us two hours

to get there

Yeah

Minimum

Yeah, exactly

Yeah

Minimum

Are you going to Long Beach?

Got a little quick homework here

Oh, so it says the Helios hop is one of the most agronomically sustainable hop

varieties

grown today

Thanks to its unrivaled yield, powdery and well as downy mildew resistance,

pleasant

aroma and bitterness quality

I don't know what any of that means

It is a dual purpose hop that can be used in hop additions throughout brewing

process

described as low COH with pleasant bitterness, a muted aroma with clean, soft

accents

Loft

Yeah

Yep

It's from the hop Steiner hop program

So it's a European slash German hop

Wow

But that makes sense

If this has like, it can sustain just about any environment

And I'm wondering if they would like, now that it's named, if they would sell

off, like,

or breed it with American stuff

So then they can get the qualities of the Helios for the growth and not have to

worry

about the climate or it can grow in other parts of the world, but just not be

known

as Helios

Like this could, this could be the, a parent in the breeding process for its

qualities

and branch off of that

Oh yeah

That's super high

Alpha 15 and a half to 18 and a half

Holy shit

Whoa

That's super high

That is, that's the dankiness there

Yeah

Ooh

It did say alpha, yes

I did read that part, but I didn't read it out loud

Super alpha with clean bitterness is what hop Steiner got

Wow

That's okay

Okay

Now I have to do my research as, as, as now a hip brewer

Helios may be one I may have to mess with

Somebody's got a boner

This is just a hazy pale with Helios

Bitter with Helios

Finish it with some, something from New Zealand, something from New Zealand, or

even we keep

it in Germany with Mandarina Bavaria

Okay

Super orangey finish

Oh yeah

Oh yeah

Mandarina Bavaria is one of my favorite hops too

Love that hop

Everyone's getting hard over here

Still not a boner shot

Give it time apparently

Uh, all right

Top listening city of last week

Shout out to, I think this is a new one

Dallas Tejas

Yeah

I don't even think we ever stepped foot in Texas

I know

I, well, it's not true

I had an emergency landing once in Texas, but that's it

I hate to admit it

I had a layover there once

Yeah

Oh

Did you go by choice?

No

I don't think we've ever talked shit about Texas

Every time I stepped foot in Dallas, dude, I just shiver

I'm like, Oh God, Cowboys, Cowboys fans everywhere

Oh no

Worst

Worst

I might get arrested

Yeah

But Hey, thanks for listening

That won't last very long

Love to hate to Dallas

Yeah

We appreciate it

Yeah

To all the not creepy people who are listening, thanks

Anyways

Hey, we forgot to mention this last week

Speaking of all this beer nerd stuff and hop talk and whatnot, um, you also are

a seasoned

podcast veteran

Oh me

Yes

The other one on the show

The other one

Uh, yeah, I did a beers with Borrie podcast

Uh, if you would like to search, the episodes are still up

I haven't recorded since last December the it's hashtag beers with, uh, beers

with Borrie

It's on Spotify, Apple, Apple music or Apple podcasts, pocket casts

It's on the major products was on Google rip Google podcast

Um, but yeah, it was, it spawned out of when I used to stream games, video

games every

other Friday I did a beer talk and then it became beers with Borrie and it was

about literally

anything and everything

I like took an excerpt out of the encyclopedia of beer

The, it was written by Garrett Oliver

It doesn't matter

And I would just talk about, let's say I talk about the style like brown ale

and then it

would, I would just read excerpts and then I try to get a brown ale like from

somewhere

and drink it while I talked about it and then talk about the different

differential characteristics,

why most breweries don't do it, why breweries haven't done it in forever, why

the style

is like fading in a way, like, or another episode would be about citra hops and

the

history of citra hops

So that's kind of where the show went on

And then when I started recording a podcast, it was the same vein, but most of

them were

reviews

So it'd be like any beer I get my hand on or if I had aspirations of doing a

vertical

recording myself doing a vertical, that would have been fun

Get to number seven

But then the last three Christmases I've bought the Costco admin calendar, the

German beer

admin calendar

Every year I torture yourself

It all tastes like cam

So I was like, yes, German beer, 24 of them

Let's go

And then the second year I was like, oh, the first 14 were the same from last

year

Like, oh man

Then the third year I was like, all right, this is the last time

And then I open it up

I'm like, yup

Almost identical

The first like 12 were the same

I was like, okay

This is like, well, this is the last time I'm doing the Costco one

I think it's the same cans from three years ago

It wouldn't surprise me

I would check every episode

This was a review

I opened it every day and I recorded myself drinking said beer

And I promise, I swear it was the same lock code on the cans

I'm that person that checks like can dates, packages, whatever

Right

So I was like, what the, you gotta be kidding me

So I was really disappointed

There were some new ones, but yeah, that was kind of like the last time I

recorded was

a lash 2023 advent calendar

If you were to go back to the, to the podcast, that's the last recordings was

24 days of

me reviewing every, every single one

And you'll hear it's pretty, they're like five to seven minutes long

They try to be, I try to be quick about it cause like I'm coming home from work

, dropping

off whatever is in my pocket

If I got to walk the dog, I got to walk the dog

And then like I set up the equipment, you know, turn on Norad and then I crack

a beer

and I quickly review it so it's like, and then I got to go make dinner

So that was kind of like the whole scenario every night

So if it's still out there, if you want to listen to it, folks, sorry, that was

a long

winded

Yes

I have a podcast

Thanks

I tell you what I am on team

I hate my voice

It's weird

It takes a lot of getting used to, to hear your voice

It does

And now like I've been like flex said last week, what am I doing for like 12

years now?

12 and a half years

I've been doing it for so long

Now when I hear my voice, I'm like, Oh, I don't sound right today

Oh yeah

Like, Oh, I sound tired or I sound sick or what?

Like it just, I don't sound quite right

I sound a little off now

I know my voice too well

It's weird and mildly narcissistic

You can definitely tell when I'm tired

Yeah

Tonight

Flexy ain't sweepy

No

Flexy's

How's your booger sugar treating you?

We good

I wish people could see that reaction

That was great

Oh yeah

Good time

Yeah

The, the fucking, uh, the Costco pack

Oh, I did a highlight

So when you're, I think this was, God, it was a 21 or 22

I don't remember

Your mom bought it

Your sister bought it

My sister-in-law bought it for me

That's what it was

She thought she was being nice

She knows you're an alcoholic

She knows I'm an alcoholic and she's 24 German beers

She's like, Oh my God, yeah, the Costco, whatever pack and this, I'm like, and

I, and that was

the year where like all the grammars were doing it and they were talking about

how garbage

it was

And I was like, Oh no

Oh no

22

I think it was 22

Yeah

It wasn't last

Yeah

It was definitely, definitely was not last year

Oh yeah

22 was, I think is it 21, 22, definitely not 23

And so I did a highlight, like a real highlight on Instagram instead of an

episode for each

one, just so everyone can see my face as I drank it for the first time

And most of it was like, all right, now I'm drinking, you know, Juergen Fleur

gen from

Dusseldorf and sip

Oh, that was so bad

That was hard to get

It got to the point where I was like, do I need to finish this box?

Cause this is, Oh no

So I don't know

I poured them out

I don't know if you guys poured them out or if you canned them

I can't Greg

I can't remember

I can't remember

I don't think I finished very many of them

Oh, it just, it was a lot of aluminum flavor

It tasted so tinny

Yeah

Yeah

There were a lot of oxidized cans

Yeah

100%

Yeah

Good

Everything tasted the same

The stouts didn't taste like stouts

There were a lot of hell

I remember a lot of helices in 22

Yes

There was one IPA in there and I was psyched

I was like, Oh, a little change up

He poured it out and drank it

And I said, yeah, that tasted like the helice I had

Yeah

Yeah

Okay

That's weird

I think it was just the same beer in different cans

It might've been

Yeah

This stouts really light

I don't know what's happening here

Why is it yellow?

Yeah

I felt so bad cause I was just ripping into these beers and I was like, dude, I

love my

time in Germany

I spent five years over there

It was the greatest, most boring beer I've ever had, but it was all outstanding

Boring beer

Right

It was done right

It was done right

And it's just like, like outside of Enneagrin there's, you don't find it

anywhere

You have to buy exports or imports

So then when I saw this advent calendar, I was like, yes

And then they show you the cans on the side

You don't know the days

And as some of them, I was like, Oh, I actually had this one in Germany, had

this one

I was like, cool

I get to have it again, but clearly not the same

Remember they were packaged so long ago and they just shoved them into this gi

ve pack

and up the price

Cause they were like 80, $90 at Costco

It's insane

It's like for 24 beers

And I'm thinking about it and saying out loud, I'm like, wow, I'm such an idiot

for buying

three years in a row

I would pay somebody $90 not to buy it

Yeah

That's why this year, this year was the first year I was like, I'm not, there's

no way

And I haven't

We, we, we, as a, I have two kids, uh, as well flex and like, it's a Costco run

every

two weeks

So I know they're about to get this advent calendar

It's that time of year, late October, early November

So I have to like fight every urge in my body to not buy it

But cause I can't be a hard fight

I can't, I should have just done this episode

Yeah, this could be like, this is my AA to not get an advent calendar

So gross

It's bad

So you lived in Germany

You said, yeah, we did

I have a buddy who has gone there quite frequently

He said the best beer he's ever had

It's a brewery that the beer is brewed by monks

There are churches in Germany that brew beer and the monks brew beer

Yes

It's gross to me

Yeah

It's a, it's a thing over there

Um, we, the U S had a American Trappist Monastery in Maine, uh, Spencer

It was the first and thus far been the only one

Unfortunately, it closed their doors end of 22, early 23

Um, and I, as like a European beer nerd and Trappist nerd, I was like, yes, the

Is on the map

Hell yeah

And then like, I think they lasted maybe seven years

It's a really unfortunate, they made great beer

They're like staple beer was so good

The most mass mass, uh, distributed one

It was so good

I actually bought a gift pack from BevMo the year, the month I found out they

were closing

Uh, it's still, it's cellaring

I kept it because I will break it

I will probably break it open this Christmas because I think it's a Christmas

ale and I

bought it a year or two years ago

So it's been aging for almost two years

I'm that kind of person that like age

I have, I have, Oh, you're a former cellar man

So nobody's surprised

Yeah

I aged when we lived in Germany

I bought a lot of Belgian beer and I bought the Roquefort 10

I bought one every year, but I aged like I bought like a bunch of them and I

aged a bunch

So like my pseudo four to five year vertical of just Roquefort 10, there were,

I mean,

there were like a dollar 80 like, what do you do?

Not a huge investment

Yeah

So, and I opened one every Christmas

That was my Christmas beer every morning

Nice

The only time I drink beer at before 9am is Christmas morning and like with

breakfast

vacation

No, I'm, we're trying to sleep in on vacation

That's true

Opposite over here

We don't sleep in on vacation

I'm excluding work here

Like I'm excluding work

It's sampling

I have to QA crap at like 830 in the morning and it's just like a sip or two

I'm like, uh, Nope

That's definitely not ready

You're like, this one's ready

Pour me a full pint

Would you?

Yeah

Right off the fermenter

Yeah

Still bubbling

It's still warm

Trigging this at 92 degrees

Oh dear

All right

Wow

Well, if anybody, you know what, this is my call to all the listeners who are

dumb

I mean, uh, new enough to buy the Costco advent calendar, please film it or

record it or something

and make sure we have access to it

I would like to see this

Maybe we could get like a Kickstarter going where we, yeah

Somebody please buy the 2024 version so we know we were all right the last two

or three

years

Yeah

Let us know

You know we are

It's yeah

I just want to hear how bad it is

My favorite is, I won't call this person out, but I think Flex only who I'm

talking about

Last year, 23, by this point, like everyone knows it's garbage

I'm the schmuck that didn't grade

You're the second one

Because there was one person in an engagement group where it was like every

post was the

advent calendar and they must've gotten it for free or something because every

post talked

about how great the beers were and I was like, what are you drinking compared

to what I had

so

Do you want to talk about Flex?

I think so

We'll take it off air, but yeah, I was like, oh, and now I have to comment nice

things

about this Costco

You could have had that first beer and just immediately been like, yeah, no, I

'm not going

to post these

Yeah

It's going to be a no from me

It wasn't that hard

Right

So bad

Anyways, I'm not going to sit here and say I am that person that posted every

day either,

but I may have been that person posting every day, but no, it was mostly to put

the episode

like, Hey, new episodes out

This is what I drank

And then like, go listen

Yeah

Go listen

Yeah

I didn't put it in the post

I just made it like I made a post of the episode

This person didn't have a podcast

They just took pictures and posted how great it was

Oh, I got a comment on the, it was because it wasn't that great

It was not

Yeah

It's not great

They don't post the advent calendars in Germany proper

They don't send them out here

The one we get is like, it's one of the bigger, like we'll call them beer

distributors of

Germany

They have one in Germany

That's different than what we get here

Hopefully

And then they have two more

One of them's like a tongue in cheek

It's all like, like taboo named beers

Like these are the ones that I wish we would get

And then you have like a real proper one that breweries make to distribute

within Germany

That one I did two years of, and then I, they couldn't, in my region, they didn

't send it

out anymore

Oh yeah

That would suck

Cause that was the one I was looking forward to every year

Well hopefully somebody puts together like a halfway decent one

I know

That would be nice

I had a business

I had a business idea to, to collaborate with breweries every winter and make a

custom advent

calendar

That would be awesome

Like, but clearly you have to plan it out cause it's got to sit around for a

little

bit

So you don't want like a wet or a fresh hop IPA from October sitting until

December

Like nobody's going to, that's going to be an awful beer

So you're going to need to put this together in like, you know, August-ish

probably

When I worked in a grocery store, they would put old beer on clearance, you

know, and then

put it on like a sales rack

Oh sure

And you were talking about celebration last episode

They had celebration on the clearance rack in December for the previous year

Whoa

And I just thought to myself, how bad would that taste?

I couldn't get my, I couldn't get myself to buy a six pack of it

I just couldn't, but I could only imagine how not great

Was this bottled or the canned version?

Bottled

Oh no

Yikes

Oh yeah

That's rough

That is rough

Now I wish I would've got it

Just to see

For science dude

Hey, you know what?

Still better than the Costco package

It would still be better

Oh God

Up in the air

Oh fuck

Yeah

We'll find out

The jury's still out

Yeah, we'll find out

We'll find out

Oh fuck

All right

Let's, let's move on a little bit

A week or so ago, a couple of weeks, I guess a couple of weeks ago, went to a

comedy night

at a brewery

Have you guys ever done one of these?

No

I shy away from it

Not yet

I want to, but not yet

Somebody was going like, Hey, we're going to, I won't mention the brewery

because it

was super fucking awkward

I was like, Oh, okay

So, but that's not the brewery's fault

Right?

No, no, no, no

That's not the brewery's fault

They have hired or partnered with, or something, a person who puts on these

events, a hundred

percent, not the brewery's fault

Still not going to mention the brewery

Cause then you'd figure out potentially who the comedians were or something

But it was put on by a person who was not very funny

They had four comedians in total

The last one was actually decently funny

Like, Oh, I would actually go see this person as a comedian

Like they're, they're good at this

They're funny

They've clearly been doing this

But like the first two people to come up kind of seems like it was their first

night ever

doing standup

One lady, she was a little older

I'm guessing she was in her like early sixties and had a real shaky voice and

kept forgetting

the setups to her punchlines so bad

At what point she started to tell us this, you know, in quotes, the story to

get to the

punchline, she cuts herself off and it's like, Oh, first I should tell you

And she told us the first, she should tell us

And then never got back to the story and just hit the punchline

And we're all staring at her like, Ooh, what?

And that was about her entire set

One guy got up there

He wasn't bad at first

You know, he brought the energy

He seemed like he'd done this before, but as his set went on, he kept checking

his phone

Clearly he was working, workshopping some material

Kept checking his phone

Fine

Not a, not a big deal

Except you look at his phone and go, Oh yeah, this one

And then he'd tell the joke and if it worked, you know, he'd move on

And if it didn't work, you're like, all right, well you guys don't like that

one

How about this one?

Oh, that's so repeating

It was so late

Cause like the first five minutes and they're all short sets for like 15

minutes

That's the first five minutes he was on it

It was like he had to memorize, he was going, it was not the best jokes in the

world, but

it was decent

Energy was there

And then it was like phone time and I was like, Ooh, this is rough

This is so rough

The host, when she opened the show, you know, like the host to tell a few jokes

, bring out

a comic, a few jokes, comic, whatever

She starts asking people in the crowd, like, Hey, what do you do?

And people were really shy

And she goes, well, clearly you're a secret agent cause you won't tell me

And I'm like, all right, funny

Ha ha

Then she latched onto the secret agent thing

And that was the only joke she ran with the rest of the night

Every time she'd come back out between comics, like, all right, tell my secret

agents in

the crowd, any CIA, you know, it was so bad

Like it was, it was, you know, crickets bad

Oh man, really?

It was, it was, it was to a point where I was laughing at how bad it was, which

is not

the laughs you want, but at least I was laughing, I guess

The wife doesn't do awkward very well

So she was just cringing the whole time while I was pregnant

That's me

I don't enjoy it

Oh, like, yeah, like the wife did not love the office

Like I loved the office too awkward for her

So that's her, she doesn't do that style of comedy

But anyways, there's no moral to this story other than like, it was bad

You guys should probably vet your comics a little bit

If you got a good one, give them some more time than the shitty ones

Look all the credit in the world to the old lady who went up there for, I

really hope

it was her first time

Cause if it wasn't that she should just stop

But um, cause obviously I don't do that, but uh, yeah, early mid sixties, what

an age to

get into comedy

Yeah

And her stories, like all her stories that were supposed to lead to punchlines

fell apart

like mid story

Like she was talking about working from home, but then also talked about being

a masseuse

I was like, wait, you do massages from home

Is that a thing that you go to clients?

I feel like a great joke would have been something like how she was single and

she was trying

to get back out there and she went, went out and took a guy home

Then before they slept together, she handed him a can of pledge because it had

been a

while

That would have been better than any of the jokes she told, I feel like, you

know, just

got a lot of time on your hands

You know, 63 lived a lot of life

Yeah, no

Like I said, we heard a lot about her husband, but like also learn nothing

about her husband

at the same time

Oh, it was very strange

Very strange

So anyway, you know, John, and now you have no idea who this John guy is

All right

Yeah

So I told you about John earlier

Right?

Yeah

Anyways

So my girlfriend and I were out of the bar and it was that kind of like, Oh man

So anyway, I don't know

There's no point to that

But, um, but yeah, that was good times

A couple of weeks ago I decided to, and we talked about this, I think when

Erica was

on the show, um, make chat GPT, come up with some beer questions for me

No

Yeah

Last, last time it was, uh, what's the name of a horrible beer or whatever,

based on your

last text message or something like that

Or the name of it

Yeah

The boobs one

Yeah

No fake tits

Yeah

Yeah

Which we got some comments about

Some people were mad that you didn't like fake tits

Uh, this one flex, we'll start with you

If you could turn any non beer food or drink into a beer, what would it be?

I mean, non beer food or drink like, like turn nachos into a beer

Yeah

Like you could turn something that's not beer into beer

What would it be?

And why would it be an absolute disaster?

A disaster home, man

Uh, probably margar, like turn a margarita into beer because anything tequila

barrel

aged is terrible throwing up already

Right?

So I feel like that would be the gross one

Like the easy gross one

You had me at tequila

Nachos was my first thought, but I like nachos

Yeah

Who doesn't like nachos, but if you're going to ferment cheese, yeah, that's,

that's a

disaster, man

Oh, what say you?

For both of you

I hate peanut butter

I hate pickles and I hate liver

We've already had many, many peanut butter beers flex a couple of weeks ago

You had one, the PB and J beer, uh, pickle beers making for some reason

It's the thing again

I don't know why

I don't know why either

I like pickles

I've had a pickle goza, I've had a pickle says, or I think I had a pickle sa

ison, cucumber

saison

So almost a pickle

Same thing

Basically

Uh, but like, so liver, like that flavor, cause there are people that like

liver

I don't know why

Yeah

If you're 80

So, Hey, maybe the 60 some odd year old comedian may enjoy liver

I don't know

So like, so I had this beer last week, like liver, liver, worse, worse lager

I don't, I don't even know, man, like that's just one, uh, kimchi, kimchi, pale

ale

Like I feel like, I feel like you're picking things that are easily disasters

A nacho beer would probably be a disaster, but like if you're, are we talking

like nachos

with cheese cream, like cream cheese, you're saying liver's gross, right?

Which is, but nachos are not gross

I'm not saying that is delicious

So we're talking something that is edible and good and then turns into disaster

Oh, okay

I think that's, I think that's the fun of it

So then they would be still kimchi, like a kimchi, because kimchi is delicious

And, but like thinking of a fermented, fermented cabbage with Korean chili

peppers for six

months and then you put in a beer, no thanks, nope

And I've had a sriracha pale ale, I've had a sriracha stout, I've had spiced

beers

We, uh, institution over the hill, over the grade over here makes it a great

Thai chili

white walls

And I'm not a pepper beer guy, I'm a pepper stout guy

I'm I, it's the one style when someone asks me, what are you not like?

It's like, this is what I normally say

I don't like any spice in my beers

But for, I don't know how they do it, but institution just dials it just right

I've had it from both ends of the spectrum, all pepper is literally a carbon

ated vegetable

juice or did you actually put peppers in it?

Right?

But institution has found that balance and it's incredible

So I would still say a kimchi pale ale, like that would be an awful beer, like

an actually

properly fermented kimchi

And then you use that in a, in a beer

No, that's going to, yeah, no

I don't remember if this was an on-air conversation or an off-air conversation,

but I'm going

to go back to our talk about red lobster, the cheddar biscuit beer, like what's

better

than those cheddar biscuits

What would make a worse beer than those cheddar biscuits?

I don't know the breadiness, it might not be terrible, like a nice cheddar

biscuit lager

A little cheese on the back end

Dry cheesed

Yeah

Bread-y up front

Well, look, between the three of us, one of us can make that happen

Just saying, and it's not flex and it's not Greg

I'll tell you what, I've had Chicago style hot dog beer and I've had sushi beer

And they're both are pretty solid, like the wasabi through the sushi beer and

like you

could taste like the sport pepper through the hot dog beer

It was wonderful

We'll move on quickly from that

We were talking off air, Boris, you were talking about some research you did

recently

Yeah

Headed down to Santa Ana, north of Tustin, that orange

And I immediately perked up because I have to go down there for work all the

time

Yeah

Bearded Tang, unreal spot, like unreal spot

They make kind of almost everything, but they do it right

So they have like an outstanding German pilsner

And when I say outstanding, like we have endocrine in our county that just like

kills it all

the time

So to be down there in like basically a strip mall with a food court for Vent

ura County

listeners, like the annex at the collection and a, I don't know, I think it's a

10 barrel

brew house dropped into the back of the annex

Like that's what Bearded Tang is

So they had a Czech pilsner that was like the light version of their main Czech

pilsners,

42% had that just the clarity, the flavor was spot on 42%

I mean like, how do you get so much flavor in 42?

Then the German pilsner

Then they also made a crystal weizen, which is like rare

Like even in Germany, it's just not a common style, but it is a common style

It's been around forever

So you get all the benefits of the aroma of a hefeweizen, but you don't get the

heaviness

of the yeast and the wheat and it's crystal

It's unreal

It's so good

Is it still banana-y and stuff?

Still banana-y

Like you get, it's kind of like an anomaly because you shouldn't get it because

it's

filtered out, but you still get it

And it's crushable is like 5%, five and a half at most

If I'm ever down there again, it's the only place I will go because now I have,

not only

do I have like basically a food court's worth of food, I have this brewery that

's just killing

it and they happen to have like IPAs, pale ales, hazies, like the other stuff

that every

other California brewery is doing

So like when you can kill it with lagers and old world styles and then still

have new world

stuff, it's like, okay, you're on my radar and they're outstanding

Well, I always say like if I walk into a new brewery, I'm judging them on their

lagers

That's how you know anything else is going to be good

If you're making a lager, you have to know how to do a lager

Right

Exactly

So I'm always putting a lager or two in there and obviously I'm drinking that

before, you

know, get to the IPAs or whatever

As soon as I hit that lager, I'm like, this is either going to be a good

experience or

a bad experience

If you can do that right, you can do everything

Yeah

That's, and for us too, like we only have one core lagers, our single spirit,

our American

light lager, but like that is, we cannot fuck that beer up

Like it has to be spot on

There's nothing hot, you can't hide it

Like you can't hide anything in any lager, not even an IPL

You can't hide anything

So you have to take care of that style and if you are a brewery that can do it

right,

you will succeed

It's true

And if you fuck it up, yeah, just pop the shit out of it

You'll never sell it

And then if you can make an IPA, then cool

But like if you know how to make a lager, even just a generic lager, even a p

ilsner,

you'll succeed

In my opinion, you'll succeed

Yeah

Well, I'm, I'm down there all the time for work, so I'm, you know, hit up a

green cheek

all the time

Oh, that's on my list

I need to go to green cheek

So good

Hit up everywhere when I can

Have you been to everywhere yet?

Oh, you're missing out

Yeah

I'm not missing on that drive, but yes, I am missing out

Radiant when I can

There's some good beer down there in Orange County

Love Radiant

I've yet to go to beer

I had like one or two of Solomon at a couple of festivals

What I've had, I remember being really good, but I need to go check them out

I'll be down there for work more than I'd like to admit for like the month of

November

So hopefully get some, some opportunities down there

Noice

Noice

All right

Ludicrous libation law

This one comes to us from Ms Misery

Oh

All under 21 who do simple things such as taking out the trash that may have an

empty

alcohol beverage container are at risk of being arrested

The laws are so strict that technically police can arrest them for illegal

possession of

alcohol

So if you have like an empty beer can and you're under 21, you can be arrested

It's a pretty Missouri sounding thing

Yeah

Your, your child is doing their chore and they may not come back inside

Right

They may be arrested

Yeah

But like, does the cop just guess, Hey, what's in that bag?

It's like a fucking pinata party then like it was take turns bashing the bag

until split's

open and they might see a alcohol container, get their nightstick out and come

here, kid

Yeah

Would you, would you, would you gotten that a black trash bag?

Yeah

Hey little Billy

What you doing tonight?

Yeah

Entrapment

You know, it's like they just park in the alleys behind the bars and waiting

for the

bar back to take out the trash and Oh no

Where are you going?

Young man, whenever they got some kid who's like 18 that they can't stand cause

he's,

you know, they always catch them smoking weed or some shit

There's a guy, what's this in your back pocket and like plant an empty beer can

on home and

yeah

Well, he can't fire him cause he hasn't done anything wrong, but he sucks

Hey Billy, you know, a guy at the police department take out this trash, stake

out, stake up for

empty beer cans

Hey there

Yeah

Yeah

One person happened

Yeah

Empty beer cans in that trash

Why?

G officer

I don't think I do the pinata stick done

You're done

Yeah

Fucking Missouri for you

What a weird law

Land of Budweiser

Weird law

Yeah

You would think the land of Budweiser would be a little more beer friendly

Yeah

There's billions of cans being tossed or cans or bottles

I mean, not everybody recycles

Let's be real

No, they don't

Especially not in Missouri

No, I think it's against the law

They hide it in the Ozarks

Right

Exactly

Toss it

Anyway, so, uh, all right, that's Missouri little news for a get up out of here

Uh, flex new Harris is going to, uh, add a $55 million addition to their

operations

I heard the, uh, they're getting into distilling

Yeah

The new addition will include space for brewing and distilling as well as

retail and office

space

We received thousands of visitors, but our current pay visitor parking holds 53

stalls

This has created congestion on our site and has forced us to be closed on the

weekends

What kind of breweries closed on the, I was just going to say, I didn't know

you were

going to have that in there

I was going to say they're closed on the weekend

That's insane

I had no idea

You think such a big brewery, you know, they're old people, right?

And old people like going, they should start comedy drives, you know?

Yeah

Oh, my mom would be terrible

Oh, she'd fit right in

But my parents are old, so they like going on drives

And my mom said, Hey, we went out to New Glarus on Saturday

I said, Oh, cool

I hear it's like a super small town, like 2000 people, like super small and

spotted

cow is about the only thing they have there

And Tim, who I always meet up my Eagle Park friend, Tim, he grew up there and

he basically

says the same thing, it is super small town, not much going on, spotted cows,

the only

thing they have there

And I said, yeah, my parents went there and they went to go to the brewery and

they said

it was closed on Saturday

And he just nodded his head and he's like, yeah, they closed on Saturday

There's Monday through Friday

That's what operations are

And that's it

And now they blame it on parking

And that's hilarious

Well, I know because I work for some governments that a lot of times they will

judge your capacity

based on your parking

Interesting

Mm hmm

There's only 50

I'm still on the 53 at New Glarus, like, like Flex, I love New Glarus

Oh, I love, oh, oh, I love New Glarus

I kind of pseudo created my own version of spotted cow

That's how much I love

I love New Glarus

Spotted cow is one of the spotted cow

And then I had one of those strawberry fruited beers many, many years ago

It's how you can spot somebody from out of Wisconsin

Oh, a hundred percent

We all love spotted cows

So we went, so we got the local brew pub right down the road

And before COVID, when they were really good, they had a farmhouse ale on tap

And this is when my wife still drank alcohol, which she does not anymore

But she would enjoy spotted cows

So we went up there and she's like, oh, what would I like on here?

Because not a lot of people know that spotted cow is a farmhouse ale

They just think of it as spotted cow

And I said, oh, they got this

This is going to be just like it

That's what I told her

You know, that's what you tell people who aren't familiar with beer and sure

Oh yeah

This is this

No bullshit

It was identical

Oh, absolutely identical to spotted cow, but cleaner

And then they also had a cucumber version, which I don't think Porous would

like, but

it was a little bit refreshing

But I'll drink a cucumber ale

I won't drink a pickled ale

Yeah

Well, I will for science and then probably probably don't the rest of it

But yeah, my point is spotted cow around these parts

It's correct

Yeah

Right

And I agree with you

But however, like this is many moons ago and I never heard of new glares

And then I read about spotted cow because if they like, it really blew them up

Right

And then a friend of mine gave me a six pack of it

And I was like, oh, and I was like, holy fuck

Like what?

It's good

This is the shit

Like, holy crap

It's good

Like, you know, travel back in time 12 years ago

And I'm like

Right

And I'm like, you don't see that in the US

And it's a core beer, too

And it's a

Right

It is a flagship core

Yeah

Yeah

So I set out to do my homebrewing nerd research and I was like, all right, I'm

going to try

to make this at home

I think I did it maybe two times

It was nowhere near because clearly I'm not going to be able to mimic it, but

it was pretty

damn close

And I was like, OK

So I kept that as like my version of spotted cow

Nice

Yeah

Yeah

But no, I tell you what, their Oktoberfest or Merton is very, very good

Like, it is very good

I would say they should be more known for that than spotted cow

Oh, yeah

The Pilsner they came out with recently in this past year was very hoppy

I'm in

Was it a hoppy Pilsner?

It was just labeled as a Pilsner

Oh, OK

And it was very hoppy, which, again, you're going to make a hazy IPA that's not

hazy and

it's juicy

Right

Don't call it hazy

Call it juicy

If you're going to make a Pilsner that's extremely hoppy, label it a hoppy Pils

ner

You know, expecting some clean, crisp drink and it kind of punches you in the

mouth right

away and, you know, hit me the wrong way

So that was OK

But their pale ale is very good

I think they do IPA that's very good

Their Hefeweiss is very good

It's called the Bubbler

It's very, very good

What a great name

Yeah

Yeah

Represent

Let's go

So, yeah, the spotted cow thing kills me because they do some better stuff

Their strawberry rhubarb beer is great

The raspberry tart sour is great

I think that's the one I had

They used to do they used to do a cherry tart

I don't know if they still do

And they used to be in like the 22-ounce bombers to when like 12 years ago and

that like just

awesome presentation

Now everything's can bottled

But their sours are solid in that aspect

So, yeah, every time, any time I hear spotted cow, it is what it is

Yeah

Yeah

Well, speaking of Flex drinking things, let's see what things he's drinking in

a world where

craft beer is king, a world where muscles are bigger than growlers

Only one tongue can guide us, one man, one tongue, one Tongue Jobber

In this world, we must find out what is Flex drinking

What am I drinking?

I've recently have gotten a hard on for Evil Twin Brewing

Not a bonus show

Not a bonus show

But I found this triple IPA, which is wheelhouse Flex

Right in that wheelhouse

Are you kidding me?

Yeah

So this is a 96, could be a little higher

Double dry hopped with Citra and Nelson, Nelson Boner

My favorite thing about this beer, it's called what's the triple in the IPA

Evil Twins always pretty creative with their beer names

Look at the can here

Do you want me to read all that?

Because I will

No, you're going to

Do you have a Sharpie marker for your bookmark?

Because that's-

It's just really funny

It says, is it triple the size?

Is it triple the hops?

Does it come in three glasses?

Is it triple the ABV?

Is it from three breweries?

Is it triple the fun?

Is it triple the flavor?

Does it smell three times as good?

Is it triple the size?

Is it triple the hops?

Okay

So that repeats

It's fun

Yeah

It's a fun can

Evil Twins great

This one does say Evil Twin Brewing New York City

And remember when Mel was on the show and I said, I thought Evil Twin was in

New York

and my can is from Connecticut

Right

This is just, it's a little justification

You finally got a New York

Yeah

Like it makes me feel good

So like I said, this is 96

Not a lot of check-ins, 296

I don't know if they don't get out much, if people don't check them in, if it's

new

Feels low for Evil Twin

It does

And, but it's got, it's a 409 collective

Chalk it up to a fresh

We respect that

Real simple description again, DDH Citroen Nelson

It is hazy

I love very bright yellow color, some solid lacing

You know how daddy likes his lacing

Daddy like

The Nelson really shines, which I love it too

It's a lot of gooseberry, which I found out when I don't know what I smell

It is in fact, gooseberry

It's always gooseberry

It is with the Nelson

It's like you smell it and you're like, ah, I don't know

That's not any fruit I've ever had

Oh, read it

Oh, yep

That's, that's the gooseberry

So this is wonderful

It's a little spicy once it warms up

Spicy

So, uh, we'll, without further ado, we're up the old tongue Jabber

Okay

So this is super de duper low carbonation, um, like none, which I do like a

little zip

in the triple

It is sweet, which I like

I'm a big fan of that

I do like sweetness in the trips, which I know a lot of people don't like, but

for me,

it just kind of helps it go down

I don't know how you avoid sweetness in a triple, right?

Right

It's sweet

It's a little bit citrusy, not much on the notes

It is dry

Like the white grape skins, you know, like, uh, like a white wine

That's nice

I love that from the Nelson

This isn't a mind blower, but it's a super solid beer at 96 you would,

especially with

the lack of carbonation, how smooth that it goes down the gullet, super solid

And Greg, to top it off, 1799 four pack, four pack

Where do you find this?

This is absurd

1799

I'm fact checking

This is no way

96 Evilton back at this point, it'd be cheaper for us to order beers from

Wisconsin and pay

for shipping

Yes

Yeah

Cause California is one of the few States you can ship alcohol to right, man, I

'd be

saving so much money

Hey, come on

You just started a business

Oh, did you ever, did you ever get the Duncan?

I sent you flex

Speaking of sending beer and shipping beer, don't do it

I'm kidding

I did not send you

I did not send you that

Please

Please don't do it

Please

Please don't

Speaking of beers, nobody wants Oscar blues is rolling out

Dale's easy IPA, you know, it's so bad and designated Dale's in a pills

I'd tell you a funny thing about Dale's pale ale

Nobody wants it

Yes

They, when we were true and T-ish and it was still new, they would sell it at

Walgreens

and you could get a flat case of Dale's pale ale for like $9

Oh my God

Was that before monster acquired them?

Yeah

So we're talking like 2008

Oh yeah

That was wild

Yeah

They're still independent

Yes

Cause I remember we had a huge attic party at our place and we were, I mean, we

would

buy cubes of Keystone light all the time

That was like the beer of choice

And one time I invited a buddy and out of nowhere he brings a flat of tails

pale ale

and everyone was like, Oh, okay

Like whatever

Like beers, beer

And when you're 2021 and you haven't had a pale ale, man, that was the nastiest

shit

I ever did have in my entire life

Let me tell you

It's like flowers

It was just the bitterness that cascaded on your tongue and it just wouldn't go

away

That was probably the cascade

Yeah

We stopped drinking that pretty quick

That used to be a top five pale ale back then

Right

That's, I mean, I sure it was for people who had the palate for it, but I went

to the brewery

in Lyon and at the, it's probably not even there anymore

There was a Dave's pale ale

It's a draft tap room only

And it was far superior than Dale's, but it never hit distro

Never got canned

One of these days, like recently I, you know, they were talking about the

Instagram brewery

questions like, well, would you like to see that?

We used to make that

You went back, blah, blah, blah

I was like, why didn't you guys ever put Dave's pale ale in distro?

Like that was so much better

And the question, they replied back, like, what do you mean Dave's pale ale?

Really?

I was like, all right

It's like, nevermind

Their marketing person's like 23

They didn't, yeah

They didn't even know Oscar blues existed back in 2008

Right

Finally, how about a trip to Florida?

Where else would we go?

Yeah

A Florida man found drunk on vehicle's hood in the middle of Clearford road

This is out of Clear

Okay

So it's not a trip to Florida

It's a trip to Pennsylvania where Florida man was getting hammered, uh, Clearf

ord County,

Pennsylvania, a 42 year old Florida man was arrested for driving under the

influence after

officers spotted him in the middle of Reed street and North third street in

Clearfield

borough with the doors to his vehicles open and music blasting

Police said the male later identified as Thomas Wayne Colbert of Fort Myers,

Florida was seen

jumping up and down on the hood of the vehicle and then jumped to the roof

before noticing

police were there

So he was ghost riding the whip

Oh, he absolutely was

My man

Officers noted that the man was three times over the legal limit

He was placed in Clearford County jail with bail set at $10,000

E 40 would be very proud

Yeah

Ghost ride the whip

Ghost ride the whip

What a track

Let me tell you

There's a couple of things I'll make fun of my wife for because she's from

Northern California

Like if she ever actually drops a hella, I give her massive amount of shit for

that

And every now and then you say you give her a hell of shit

I gave her a hell of shit and I will drop a little ghost ride the whip every

now and

then to dance around your moving car like a fucking idiot

Shake them dreads

Nobody was a good times in Pennsylvania, not an E 40 show

You know what?

It could be though

That could be

I bought that album

Let me

Wow

Really?

Yes

I'm being honest about that

You're one of five

I like the song

I'm joking

It's a good song

I don't know any other songs he has, but no, I can't remember a single one

That was a song

It's the best

Oh, there you go

Back story

When I was in high school, I used to drive a 1998 Chevy or 96 Chevy Astro van

Oh yeah

The Astro van

Yes

It was 98

That's correction here

1998 white Chevy Astro

And it had the captain's chairs in the back

It had the blinds on every window

So that, that was my car I got when I got into high school and I got my license

So imagine like me with long red looking hair, cause apparently my hair grows

long

I look like a, who's that snowboarder?

Sean White

Yep

That's what it looked like

And this is about like six other tiny white kids just bumping

Tell me what the hell

Bumping an E40 out of a '98 Astro van

Bumping an E40 out of a '98 Astro van

That is basically an RV

Yeah

I learned how to drive it in Astro van

That's the suburbs in Wisconsin

Oh man

Yeah

It's a real thing

Did you at least put some subs in that bitch?

You didn't need it

Let me tell you, you did

Flex blew out every speaker in that van

I didn't need subs

Day one

That stock was bumping

License plate rattling

Oh man

Oh, that's fucking great

It was good stuff

That's something I need to get Chachi PT to animate for us

That sounds fantastic

A '98 Astro van in a white Chevy Astro van

Bumping E40

Bumping E40

Yeah

That'd be great

Tell me when to go

Please tell me you were bummed that a stoplight's like, tell me when to go

Tell me when to go

Absolutely

We would like purposely do it to just be like an attraction and like everybody

bouncing

up and down in their seats and you don't got dreads, but you shake them anyway

Shaking your fucking Ronald hair

Yeah

I don't know if you've ever seen you

I don't think you've seen a picture of me when I was young

I don't think I have

But now I, I'm hoping there's video of you guys bumping E40

That was pretty self on

There might be a video of me in my van on YouTube

Oh, all right

We're going to hit some music and I hope flex is looking up that video

I got up

Oh, please

Oh no

You please send that

Oh no

All right

Let's wrap this up

Thank you all for listening

Thanks for joining

Boris

Thanks for hanging with us two weeks in a row

Yeah, of course

Yeah

Yeah

Thank you

Find us on the socials at craft beer Republic at flex me a beer underscores in

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I hope everyone is staying very well hydrated

And on that note, good night, everybody

Wait, you didn't say hi to Vanessa

Did we not?

Hi, Vanessa

Oh, well, hi, Vanessa

I thought we did